#2021_grads
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I heard Roblox has an amazing work culture
I love that quote
and they are extremely profitable
i think u can work on stuff that will be transferrable
did she mention how team matching will go?
(from roblox)
Yes def cheaper
idk u are in a really good spot
u cant make a wrong choice tbh
i guess tahts what makes it hard
Random Number Generator it
yeah
(lowkey though you could RNG it and see how you feel about it)
(lowkey though you could RNG it and see how you feel about it)
whoops
I forgot to finish that thought
basically like RNG it, see what it lands on and like see what your gut says about it
that's what I do sometimes
because impulsively you'll be like do I regretti that decision or not
i would imagine that doordash has worse wlb than roblox
tbh roblox is really tempting lol
We're also a roblox echo chamber though ngl
what would u want to work on tech wise @quick burrow
does anyone know when roblox would IPO
next year I think
Does doordash overwork their engineers?
i think its a side effect yea
is any food delivery service profitable yet
idk food delivery is competitive, but my team at uber is extremely chill
personally think affirm is super underrated

b/c game fizzix
it might be in ur interest to ask ur roblox recruiter to set up a 1:1 for hiring manager & you
and ask the questions u wanna know answers to
the team?
or recruiter
if they aint got 30 mins for 1:1 call................
👀
The manager that interviewed me said he barley knows what roblox is. But he leads infrastructure so makes sense
mfw don't even know your product
i mean
Ikr he was like "All I need to know is if its graphics heavy"
if theres anyone that doesnt know the product, it would be infrastructure people lol
game is for kids
Also SF is kinda gross but that's just me
I think living in a city does make sense as a new grad though
like making friends becomes /easier/
as opposed to the suburbs
sf is definitely kinda gross
but it has lots of character
monumentally a better place than south bay
once i paid $99 for an uber home from sf to mv
not a fun time
dont live south of like
san mateo
ur gonna hate ur life
yes
well i know multiple people personally that shared with me their offer
and they had equity in them
is it hard to get amazon fulltime in irvine?
for a 3 round onsite, do you have to do well in all rounds to move on? or can you afford to have 1 mediocre interview if you excelled in an interview w another team
for context this is for amazon LOOL
amaZONNN
for a 3 round onsite, do you have to do well in all rounds to move on? or can you afford to have 1 mediocre interview if you excelled in an interview w another team
@solid moth wondering the same thing I did well in 2 rounds and 1 round i did ok in (just did my 3 round today)
late to the convo but roblox has one of the best work cultures in the bay area
i’ve been told they regularly play roblox during stand-ups and with their VPs
also no crunch time
Ain't tryna get chummy with the boss tbh
@solid moth wondering the same thing I did well in 2 rounds and 1 round i did ok in (just did my 3 round today)
@copper fractal yea im curious if that would matter, since youre interviewing with 3 diff teams
how much time does it generally take to hear back after the Bloomberg telephonic round?
Ain't tryna get chummy with the boss tbh
@vapid river why not?
does roblox get back after final round within a week?
this is speculation but it seems like if the hiring manager you talk to wants you on their team, you'll hear back pretty quick. otherwise there might be some matching phase later on?
the verbal is all a dude really needs
how are people talking about gusto offers and I haven't seen a posting yet or still? give me your sourcesss
guess its just not open anymore after checking..
anyone attempted Deutsche Bank - Situational Judgement Test?
if anyone had a final onsite interview with wepay, can they please ping me! thank you 🙂
Can anyone share WePay onsite experience? or Dm me?
how are people talking about gusto offers and I haven't seen a posting yet or still? give me your sourcesss
@wild otter these are return offers and the other person was actually interviewing for intern and hopped into the grad discord
anyone been through the process for palantir in london?
has anyone completed a phone interview with Bloomberg last week or earlier n is waiting to hear back about next steps? Heard they're usually quick, and it went well
Any feedback on how does grubhub hire for a new grad role ?
Has anyone interviewed with Adobe ?
whats a good comp range for a startup in LA?
just base? stocks are pretty much paper so not taking that too seriously
@real root Just received my OA for Palantir in London. Have you started your process?
Completed the OA for now, on to a phone screen
Wasn’t too complex, I didn’t get it all done though
Anyone has an offer deadline next week and still waiting for Roblox final interview result? I had an offer deadline due next Monday, and Roblox recruiter completely ghosted me. lol
What is the roblox final round like?
Roblox OA scared me
Hey everyone,
I'm new to this discord, so sorry if the question has been answered before.
I have a 2nd round interview coming up with Jane Street for trader. Could you share your similar experiences, suggestions, resources to study from, etc.
I am new to trading interviews so any advice would be appreciated.
@supple fjord The hiring manager round was pretty chill. Went through the resume and shared my previous experience.
In bar raiser round, I got some BQs and a system design question.
yike ive never done a system design question, is it related to your resume?
and wow is there no LC or anything?
No LC in my final round. The System design question was pretty open-ended. It’s not related to my resume.
oh i see, do you have any suggestions on what resources i can use to study system design?
Roblox is still interviewing?
for bloomberg, has anyone NOT had the HR interview immediately after the two technicals and still passed?
On the form to schedule final rounds for Roblox, their dates went all the way to next week
I didn't have my bb HR interview right after
they're kinda backlogged wrt schedulign
@arctic drift hi
@daring bough hi
well that gives me hope, thanks @arctic drift
did you ask your second interviewer about next steps
Mine said that he just didn't know about availability for HR so he'd have my recruiter email me for scheduling
@supple fjord There are lots of good resources on YouTube about system design. You can also checkout https://github.com/donnemartin/system-design-primer.
did you ask your second interviewer about next steps
@arctic drift no i didn't
oh
asked the first for feedback but he didn't want to share
so i didn't ask the second
uh yeah just hope then LMFAO
its fine, i'll find out soon enough
they're pretty fast wrt responding tbh
How are u guys getting Bloomberg interviews 😭
honestly if i knew i'd share with u lol
@supple fjord There are lots of good resources on YouTube about system design. You can also checkout https://github.com/donnemartin/system-design-primer.
@lofty edge thank you so much 😄
im supposed to have one rn
but no one's called me yet
what are the odds they cancelled on me
...and the interview disappeared from the bloomberg careers page? 
yes sir
Ah ok that's a positive then
I emailed her at the 10 min mark, will probs wait for 15 more
Maybe now they can screen you before the phone too 😉
welp ya have to resched
anyone heading to msft redmond wanna connect?
^ the real value of this server
Has anyone done Ibm devops engineer interview? What kind of questions do they ask??
@spice belfry I am also in the same boat, did two tech round on nov-3 but have not heard about HR round
how do you factor in the value of RSUs when stating your TC? do you j use share price now even though it’ll vest later?
for people who got cap1 offers, did they call or did they email?
@honest ruin emailed to say congrats, and you signed up to schedule a call in that email
@fast siren second round was pretty similar to first round for me - just a bunch of statsy / math questions to work through
Have you read Heard on the Street by T.F Crack ?
has anyone done sprout social oa
@quick burrow perfect, thanks!
Holy shit that Adobe offer is fat af
is that for like masters/phd
(newest one in salary sharing)
@patent cloak how long did it take to hear back?
adobe paying big bucks
@honest ruin 48 hours
i just want to say that doordash has been one of the worst interview processes ive done
they promised me a result like 3 times now by a date
no update
i have deadlines due tomorrow
and i was suppoesd to reach an offer decision lats friday
hands down worst recruiter communication ive had
its worse than ghosting because like
at least i expect a ghost if i don't make it
not knowing if i have an offer screws my negotiation strategy too
like if you're gonna reject me don't keep stringing me along
i'll just take the L and move on
oh i'm definitely doing that
that’s on par with vmware 😢
i was going to do it today but i didn't have a thing to put for offer/no offer yet
so we'll see
if they give me a fat offer all is forgiven i suppose
if not i'm never ever using their app again
maybe leave a review on glassdoor lol
@quick burrow reminder that glassdoor will become useless soon since they're pivoting to brand management (exactly the opposite of what a review site should do lol)
did anyone do morning brew oa and can shed some light on it?
Cisco vs DoorDash new grad, which do you guys think is a better org
For anyone that did a final round interview with Microsoft, how many interviews were there? Email mentions 2-4
i only had 3
@undone abyss i might do it this weekend, also interested in knowing lol
its 2 hours tho
crazy
has anyone heard back today from roblox after their final round?
For anyone that has negotiated offers, how much did you negotiate?
I got a 15k signing bump personally, but i think it really depends on the company and your competing offers
some companies like microsoft for example have different pay levels? for stock at least
like 70k/3.5 year, 120k/3.5 year, or 130k/3.5 year
I feel like I'm in a good place to negotiate rn, but they gave me a close deadline and while I have 2 other finals before, I need to send in my negotiating before hearing back
hoping to negotiate 89k -> 95k + 5k signing -> 10k signing
kinda an odd spot
Already did :/
oh did they say no?
Got a final tomorrow and wednesday, they extended to Friday
initial deadline was wednesday
apparently this offer was their last spot
so they can't give too long
lil difficult but I think I can hear back before
or ask for a second extension
ohh gotchu, hm that's tough. the two finals you have left you would take for sure over your current offer?
I think so?
It's with Duolingo and Cockroach labs
not sure how i'll do but I really liked my early interviews and both companies do stuff I'm really interested in
😮 yeah i would def go with either of those
fyi i interviewed with duolingo and they took like 2 weeks to get back to me
but i didn't have competing offer
The company I have now is definitely my favorite in terms of product + work life balance
but I'm still not sure I wanna move to utah
hmm i see, yeah the numbers you posted don't seem too outrageous
like the bump you're asking for
yeah
so right now I'm interning
and I make 83k a year
with that salary
could I negotiate off that?
There miiiiight be a return offer late spring I wouldn't know til then
hmm i feel like that's kinda tough because it's lower than their 89k initial offer and it's also an internship?
oh you mean use the threat of the potential return offer?
not really a threat lmao
more so match based on cost of living to what the full time salary would be where I'm interning
if that makes sense
ohh like if you were to be working at your current company for full time
it'd be a lot higher? is that what you're saying?
Yeah
It's in NY so it's vv different cost of living
but if I did proportional to cost of living match that maybe
gotcha, tbh i feel like that's going to be really tough
yeah
i figured it's a stretch
I'll do some more research this weekend
thanks for the help!
- congrats on the offer heck yeah
@tall nebula are you waiting for roblox or have they sent you an offer
maybe others can chime in but if i were you i'd maybe ask for higher due to another reason
i'm not that great at negotiating but i've heard to always provide a reason for why you need higher
@orchid ibex ya i'm still waiting on roblox after my final
Ye I think I can negotiate based on other stuff
when did you last interview?
hopefully duolingo pulls throughhhhhhhhhhhh
I interviewed I think 21st of Oct still nothing
but they did say first week of novemberish
@ruby crow yup for sure, duolingo is awesome. good luck with everything!!
yeah lol i think they're just super backlogged
some people with competing offers did hear back already
idk I think they are just gonna finish interviewing before sending them ou
oh really?
i actually don't know if i have a recruiter LOL
how do you know your recruiter?
the one that sent the Hacker rank
i got the initial reach out email from a noreply email
oh LMAO yeah idk if i have a dedicated recruiter 😂
what about the person that schedueld ur interview
oh i had two people schedule for me - lemme get the names
Jonathan Lee, Ashley Drennan
yeah jon shedeuled mine
but apparently jeanie is the one that gives phone call offers
ohh gotcha
yeah i got some jumpstart invites from jeanie lol
do you have a deadline?
ohh gotcha, yeah i'm not sure if there's a difference b/w intern and new grad
with respect to like offer approval or team matching
Hello X!
We are still currently reviewing the feedback for all candidates. Unfortunately, I do not know an exact timeline, but if you can update me if you have any offer deadlines, we will try our best to beat that date.
Best,
X
oh gotcha, yeah i've told them my deadlines but still nothing
all my deadlines are like tomorrow but trying to extend
Did my bloomberg eng manager interview today. Did anyone else's bloomberg app get moved from 2021 software engineer to
"2021 Software Eng Trainee (SF)"?
@eager glacier yo that sounds like offer no?
has anyone interviewed with Rex????
thoughts on sending out post-interview thank you emails?
thoughts on sending out post-interview thank you emails?
@honest ruin lowkey doin too much
Amazon has start dates every week lmao
@honest ruin lowkey doin too much
@cursive oasis not really. you lowkey out here spreading misinformation
i havent heard of anyone really sending a post-interview thank you
and if they did
it had no impact on their process
but ymmv
it's just good courtesy either way
lol what if u dont know ur interviewers email
i can't imagine how telling someone thank you for their time and for answering your questions would hurt
some folks just send their thank you note to the recruiters saying to forward it to the interviewer
ah
anyone attempted Deutsche Bank - Situational Judgement Test?
@sage grotto yeah
then ymmv, but i personally wouldnt
but like if the interviewer gives you their email at the end of the interview i figure they'd want you to reach out to them in some way
ah
if thats the case
go ahead
ive never had that happen in an interview so
mayb im just bad
i think it just depends on the interviewer
my roblox bar raiser gave me her email unprompted in case i had any additional questions
she was really chill during the entire interview and also fairly new to the company so idk if she does that for everyone
Does anybody know if Walmart started giving out OA’s?
I did OA and Phone then got ghosted but signed elsewhere
I did OA and Phone then got ghosted but signed elsewhere
@tired bay big amazon boi 🦾
Lol yup was kinda mad they ghosted but Amazon is great
Who ghosted you? Also you accepted amazon?
Walmart after phone and yeah accepted Amazon
Ah cool! That's a huuuge step up haha congrats
ghosting should be illegal
Lol, I tempted to shame the company that ghosted me
Like send one last email to the recruiter telling them that ima share my experience with my professional network and school peers
ghosting should be illegal
@autumn lynx No company ghosts you... some just take infinitely longer to respond
It just happens that you pass away before they respond
amazon wlb for new grads? how bad is it??
did anyone do morning brew oa and can shed some light on it?
@undone abyss was this for a new grad role
Quant dev final interview next week, any good resources to prepare? The recruiter said there’ll be 1 math round, 1 coding.
@tawdry herald Is this for Akuna?
Anyone did an interview with the Apple Products Engineering team?
Please DM, I’ll offer you a referral to my current company if you are looking.
anyone know if the doordash offer is negotiable??
i'd say prob offer based off what i've seen
Hey guys. Whats the longest you've ever waiting for an offer letter?
Reason why I ask is because I've completed my first interview process 3 weeks ago. With positive feedback from both the recruiter and the hiring manager. But still no offer letter yet 😔
did u receive a verbal offer yet/
Yea last week with the Recruiter.
"The process usually takes a bit longer during this stage. But don't worry I promise it will be worth the wait!"
if it was me
id say something along the lines of
hey, is there any update yet on offer letter? just wanting to make sure i have an offer signed given the weird climate of the world right now. hope you can understand
u might also wanna ask when u will get an update if they dont have one yet
with or without covid its still very long time lol
to not have an offer letter
Ok thanks. I'll draft up an email this weekend and ask on Monday
Yeah after interviews especially the final round its not disrespectful to inquire about a timeline
so you aren't in the dark
and after a week I think is a good time to do a follow up requesting the status of your app
if it was a general application from online it will take longer but if you attended a conference and a recruiter directed you to a specific req application then the process is typically faster I've seen
Fastest process I've had in conference was with Northrop. Talked to recruiter, they liked me => schedule interview one week later => 2 days after got an offer. but that's super rare plus you need to be a citizen for it so that means a smaller pool of applicants to go through.
There's a lot of factors to consider.
anyone else waiting on VMware team matching get an email asking if you’re willing to consider Atlanta for swe?
no 😦
well im not so ill let him know so he can match others there
Thanks for the info @vital granite
My interview process went like this in case you're wondering:
Filled out job application => emailed a recruiter immediately after => recruiter replied a day after to schedule a screening Interview => did Interview the following week with an interview with the Hiring Manager scheduled immediately after => Interview with Hiring Manager the week after.
Now im waiting lol. Been 3 weeks
thanks, hook me up
I had my four round final interview with clear street and in my break between the third and fourth round, the recruiter called to reject me lmaoooo they’re wild
ouch
damn
how many hours did you put into clear street total?
but also ive heard worse, know someone who was told to leave in the middle of the interview lmao
^ not for clear street just to clarify
I heard two sigma lets you know whether you are continuing to the afternoon section after they assess your performance in the morning section
They do it over lunch apparently
Their codesignal took an hour and their take home project took me a little less than 2 hours
Honestly I didn’t mind like he was nice about it. It’s better than me getting my hopes up
I forgot to do the takehome project until a week after it was due
was it like LC mediums or
On-site was fine like I did well on the LC and design rounds but I got messed up the OS questions and I guess that was enough to get the L hahaha
Probably should have taken an OS class haha he was telling grilling me on terms I’ve never heard of and I’m just like 
yeah two sigma let me know right after lunch break last year lmao
Id say it was an easier medium @arctic drift
With a lot of follow ups. Not bad at all
are your other deadlines today? 😦
Did anyone interview at WePay?
Ughh Roblox still hasn’t followed up yet
@quick burrow Maybe end of day, PST?
still only 1:20pm over there
they like graph problems
can you call your recruiter back
did you think about Roblox vs Doordash i.e. what you'd take
worst case renege idrk
Roblox process is kinda drawn out
not very punctual ngl
lemme get ur doordash offer if u decline 🙏
does anyone know why the wait is so long?
oh damn 
hazel did you try asking doordash for an extension?
might be the move imo. especially since I assume you still need to look over the offer letter
@ornate charm have my second today
lemme get ur doordash offer if u decline 🙏
@autumn lynx nah give it to me
Have any of you guys been able to negotiate Citrix or capital one
I've heard that C1 doesn't negotiate, but may give you higher commitment bonus
@frosty forum do you mean signing bonus?
same thing yeah. c1's wording is commitment bonus
@frosty forum gotcha makes sense. Do you know how much they were able to increase it by?
10k -> 15k. 15k is usually reserved for interns I think. I didn't negotiate that tho since they're my only offer
Ahh understandable. Appreciate the help
@quick burrow what team are you going to be on for roblox?
@worthy spear higher than most places id think
😮
Anybody able to negotiate with JP Morgan?
@quick burrow is it okay if I dm you some questions about roblox?
yeah two sigma let me know right after lunch break last year lmao
@honest ruin two sig this year has it so they let you know an hour before day 2 if you're doing day 2 interviews LOL, broke it up into 3 hrs 3 hrs over two days
was a fun interview but damn they are some smart cookies there
was a fun interview but damn they are some smart cookies there
@uneven pasture is it just harder leetcode or more involved google-style questions?
a mix of LC and kind of building more "real" level questions, weren't too bad i'd say like LC meds for the onsite lol
though some might beg to differ
the behavioral was crazy though
@honest ruin two sig this year has it so they let you know an hour before day 2 if you're doing day 2 interviews LOL, broke it up into 3 hrs 3 hrs over two days
@uneven pasture did you get the offer
@uneven pasture did you get the offer
@twilit fiber just did day 2 of their onsite, so im assuming i passed technicals
will do a !process reject or offer when i hear back in a week about prelim decision and then a week or two after that about an actual offer decision
@bold gull not possible, their offer is pretty static
Has anyone taken the final round interview for SAP SVNT? What was it like?
Has anyone interviewed for Blend ?
Has anyone interviewed for IAM team with OCI yet? This is for IC3 roles.
Has anyone done the first technical 1 hour interview with tuSimple?
@ornate charm yeah i did, absolutely trash experience, interviewer came 10 mins late, he couldn't connect his microphone for like 5 mins, gave me an LC med-hard and told me 'alright let's do a really simple question' . He didn't have the question written down, so he was literally typing it out. Stayed silent the entire time and had an extremely thick accent. Later I asked him how long have you been working? He's like i have 1 YOE. I'm like wtf?
(wrong channel but) Does anyone know how long it takes to hear back after final round of Duolingo internship..? Thanks!
@ornate charm yeah i did, absolutely trash experience, interviewer came 10 mins late, he couldn't connect his microphone for like 5 mins, gave me an LC med-hard and told me 'alright let's do a really simple question' . He didn't have the question written down, so he was literally typing it out. Stayed silent the entire time and had an extremely thick accent. Later I asked him how long have you been working? He's like i have 1 YOE. I'm like wtf?
@quick lodge sheesh this does not sound great lmfao
yeah lol, look up their glassdoor reviews as well, it's not that great
which position btw? @ornate charm
Does Coinbase and Tiktok call to reject after final interviews?
yeah lol, look up their glassdoor reviews as well, it's not that great
@quick lodge fullstack bro
@turbid lintel even with a significantly higher competing offer?
Do they give yearly bonuses at all?
I definitely have to try. Its my only shot I have rn
What office was it?
what do you guys think about atlassian??
Good things ^
Jira and Confluence are shit pieces of software, but working for Atlassian is good from what I hear
Well known tech company that has successful products. no?
Successful yes, but Jira is hated by many developers lol
I'd still work for Atlassian though, their work/engineering culture seems good
say it with me
jira is a bad piece of software
jira's ui makes 0 sense
ive been using jira for 9 months and still forget how to do certain things
cool interesting info thanks guys
what about in the growth sense?
is there good growth at larger companies?
I personally like Jira 🤣
jira's ui makes 0 sense
@grave gull I can't agree more
They tried to make Jira such a general purpose tool that now it's really annoying to use because you end up not needing half its features most of the time
is there good growth at larger companies?
@proper lily you can always find growth if you seek it, though may be tougher at big companies
https://www.atlasteam-benefits.com/
@woven juniper I never got sent this haha!! awesome thanks for the link, I wonder if it applies to australian grads too? (maybe?)
@proper lily you can always find growth if you seek it, though may be tougher at big companies
@digital carbon yeah that was my consensus too.. pros and cons for larger and smaller companies I guess
thank you 🙂
!salary vanguard
Unable to locate data on Vanguard
My recruiter keeps taking forever to get me set up with a final round and I feel bad that I keep bothering him
!salary vanguard
Unable to locate data on Vanguard
!salary gusto
Unable to locate data on Gusto
!salary facebook
What questions do you guys ask to the recruiter during an interview prep call? Anything specific that can help to get a clear idea of the various rounds?
Something along the lines of what are the next steps usually
!salary Apple
!salary western digital
Unable to locate data on Western Digital
Has anyone else been getting much more traction in the last couple of weeks?
Yeah
!salary Adobe
I did the phone + oa round, didn't get past that though
New to this channel..needed some help with regards to deciding between offers. I have 1.5 years experience after undergrad and got offers from Bloomberg and Oracle OCI. Bloomberg offer (NY): Base: 155k, Perf Bonus: 20k (80% guaranteed), Sign On: 40k (across two years)..OCI offer (Seattle): 130k base, 3000 stocks for 4 years (around 42k per year), 50k sign on (across 1 year)..I am planning to move around the 1 year mark but yeah you never know...Also, Bloomberg contributes around 3.5k more in 401k...I am international so the wage level thing for H1B is also an issue
@atomic badge the 50k over one year will be paid half at the start and half at the end or all initial?
Which is between 8-10 probably
@tame latch wanna know if it makes 8-10% difference regardless if you are intl (on opt)
Okay
I have Seattle oci but gonna work from CA😔
@atomic badge it's difficult to help if you don't say what you're looking for in a company. like do you care about location, type of work, WLB, etc.
@pulsar portal paid out at the start. If I leave OCI before 1 year, I have to pay it all back. If I leave after, I get to keep the entire amount. Whereas for Bloomberg, you have to return the prorated amount if you leave before 2 years. So basically, if I leave Bloomberg at the 1 year mark, I get only 20k
@tame latch so if I work the initial few months from home, do I still have to pay the NYC state and local taxes? Even if I were to work from say, North Carolina?
At least when I interned this summer, I got taxed on where I lived not where the company was located
@digital carbon I think I would like Seattle better (not sure) - I am not as much of an extrovert. But yeah..not really too set on a location. WLB matters somewhat - but I am still early in my career. I am def worried about layoffs, PIP, etc cause I am on visa. And the H1B wage level thing if it goes through - I wont be able to get it in case I pick Oracle (OCI).
@pulsar portal what's your start date?
fwiw I've never heard of people getting laid off from bloomberg for underperforming. however, BB is kinda old school and the company values loyalty, lots of people there have been at the company for a long time (not surprising to see some engineers who have been around for 10 years). that, coupled with the fact that training lasts like 2.5 months, makes me think BB might not be suitable if you plan to jump ship after a year
are you like dead set on changing jobs after a year, and if so why?
New to this channel..needed some help with regards to deciding between offers. I have 1.5 years experience after undergrad and got offers from Bloomberg and Oracle OCI. Bloomberg offer (NY): Base: 155k, Perf Bonus: 20k (80% guaranteed), Sign On: 40k (across two years)..OCI offer (Seattle): 130k base, 3000 stocks for 4 years (around 42k per year), 50k sign on (across 1 year)..I am planning to move around the 1 year mark but yeah you never know...Also, Bloomberg contributes around 3.5k more in 401k...I am international so the wage level thing for H1B is also an issue
@atomic badge i have no idea frankly (and take our advice with a grain of salt, we're all prolly younger than you) but when you were applying for jobs, what was the # of years of experience you were aiming for?
@digital carbon I got through HC for L3 at Google.. but couldn't find a team match yet and my deadline's expiring soon for Oracle and Bloomberg. So I'll prob try for other companies at the 1 year mark or try seeing if I get a team match then (since the result's valid for a year).
@spice belfry I was looking for 0-2 YoE roles - because the 1.5 yoe was not really in swe.
@pulsar portal what's your start date?
@atomic badge Feb 21
@pulsar portal early feb?
Yes> @pulsar portal early feb?
@mental frigate
The amazon OA3 says it takes 90 minutes, but the timer counts down from 4 hours and I was finished in 45 minutes... is it shorter if you answer in particular ways?
The internship oa3 last year took way longer
It was shorter this year
After clicking my first answer, the time went down by like 30-50 mins
Idk if this was a glitch, or if it was intended to be that way
how did you guys prep for oa3? just reading leadership principles?
I read through this: https://medium.com/@scarletinked/are-you-the-leader-were-looking-for-interviewing-at-amazon-8301d787815d
And took some notes on how to better interpret the leadership principles
Customer obsession should probably be what you make the priority in all answers.
@spice belfry
is the palantir offer in #new_grad_salary_sharing negotiated?
ty @buoyant ruin
is apple’s sdet initial call the same or similar to the swe one? I have one monday
!salary JP Morgan
Unable to locate data on Jp Morgan
@digital carbon looks like it’s from stock appreciation but not positive
ooh ok
Because my palantir recruiter said their offers are non-negotiable per "company policy"
And that's not the same offer as what I got lmao (same location)
I didn't even get the Redfin OA
Anybody have success negotiating with JPMC?
Anyone accepted a barclays ft offer and wants to talk about their housing plans? dm me (:
a question about the stocks part of TC. its always over a period of 4 years with diff vesting schedule. what happens after the 4 years ? same period repeats or is it re-evaluated ?
Some companies give refreshers, which helps prevent the TC from falling off dramatically. But yea if a company doesn't give refreshers, people often leave because of the TC cliff
Rarely does the exact same vesting schedule repeat afaik
has anyone tried negotiating doordash?
they mentioned it was non-negotiable
when i asked
Did anyone got a waitlist email from Amazon for New Grad 2021 role after giving 3rounds of interviews?
Roblox ended up coming through, officially verbally accepted!!!
@quick burrow have they told u numbers yet? And I assume it was a call?
Congrats btw
damn roblox clutching on a sunday!
that seems pretty shitty/unorganized outta roblox
for not sticking to a p important deadline they offered
and requiring multiple prods
Congrats @quick burrow
is apple’s sdet initial call the same or similar to the swe one? I have one monday
How long does doordash take to get back?
@quick burrow wow surprised you went with Roblox congrats
@bronze canopy I heard they don't negotiate offers but I'll be trying once I get the official offer letter
Hello! Has anyone taken the amazon final round recently? I've got three interview rounds and would love some feedback/tips on what to expect
does anyone know what its like to work at palantir? I've been hearing mixed things
@vernal crystal I got 3 mediums and like 10+ minutes of behavioral in each interview
@tired bay Thanks! Do you know if they were Amazon tagged?
Only 1 was from the tagged stuff I went through @vernal crystal
holy shit 3 per hour?
Nah 3 total each hour is 15 minutes behavioral then 1 LC and follow up questions about logic and complexity and stuff
Anyone do the technical interview for SAP?
for not sticking to a p important deadline they offered
@cursive loom i got an offer cancelled after they said they're moving on with next steps lol
u gotta take what you get
How long does doordash take to get back?
@ornate charm i heard back within 48 hours of my interview
When do y'all reach out to your recruiters about a status update after the final round of interview?
Anyone do the technical interview for SAP?
@autumn lynx ye
@autumn lynx ye
@ornate charm dm'd you 🙏
They could use machine learning to do it
Hmm
what is tc?
what is tc?
@dreamy charm total compensation
gotchu, thanks
Hey everyone! I would be starting my Masters in Computer Science program in Spring 2021. I would be eligible for internship from Spring 2022 onwards and
wanted to know when does hiring begin for grads so that I can start applying for internships/jobs ? Like what are the typical deadlines
anyone who's done a palantir final round, is it true they call u to tell you the result?
Anyone done imc final round for swe? What's it like?
anyone who's done a palantir final round, is it true they call u to tell you the result?
@rocky spoke fwiw my friend got a phone call w/ a reject
im out of the country right now.. do u know if they schedule it first? or do they call you out of the blue?
In situational behavioural tests, if the options are between “do it yourself”, “ask a colleague” or “go to your manager” what should one pick?
I more or less went with do it yourself
And I just got my second behavioural-only OA rejection
@worthy spear if you're looking to do internships Spring 2022 onwards, you're gonna need to start applying May/June 2021, some companies post co-op opportunities then. But you can get offers as late as October for Jan start co-ops. And for summer 2022, late July is when companies start posting
Yeah that’s what I thought @eager glacier
But then I talked to my dad and he’d worked in the U.S like 20ish years ago and he recommended always going to your manager
I thought maybe it’s the difference in culture?
Yess
That’s pretty much what I thought
Maybe it was some other questions then?
I would say the answer should depend on the situation
@tidal hazel thanks for the info
if it's a larger problem you should probably run it by the manager so you don't waste your time doing work that isn't needed/wanted
if it's a larger problem you should probably run it by the manager so you don't waste your time doing work that isn't needed/wanted
@mortal temple yes makes sense
They were just worded weird
yeah that seems like too broad of a question to expect a single "right" answer imo
Yeah
I wish I had taken down points or something from the questions but they’re all blurred together now
ah I see
Any discords for C1 TDPs/TIPS?
I always use C++ or java in interviews, I like their collection framework / STL better
But then again I've never been too comfortable with Python
How often do you guys end up using heapq in interviews? I feel like I've never used them in interviews
If anyone knows anything about vanguard final round please dm me or share your experience here
The worst thing that happened to me was when during a C++ OA I was going to use a hashmap and a hashset, and for some reason didn't think it through and used a map and a set instead of the unordered ones. Didn't pass all the tests there and didn't realize till after it was over😦
@eager glacier what don’t you like about the collections module and heapq? You can also just use an ordereddict which is similar to a treemap
honestly just use the language you're most comfortable with
^yep, and standard dict does the same now
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lol wat
I like the example, the same person is applying to Google Soft Eng and Penn State Library assistant
@eager glacier hmm yeah it seems like you’re right with ordereddict. But with a heapq it’s not too bad to make a custom comparator class
another thing to keep in mind is that most interviews don't require you to compile and run so you could just state an assumption and pretend that a different implementation of the data structure exists if you're interviewer's okay with it
inb4 its google docs coding and they expect u to compile it in ur mind
All the homies love python
i'm doing duolingo final round rn and basically he wanted me to compile in my mind
lmfao
on a google doc
lol what do you guys even do for google docs interviews
I have one later this week and have no clue what to expect lmao
probably actually just means
to runt hrough t est cases
and explain what happens at each step
and how it generates the right output
idk but im not sure they'd allow it
google docs is dumb af but i think its just a online whiteboard
basically how ud do a whiteboard interview onsite irl
is google docs
without like ide and stuff
yup
Pretty sure I have a google doc interview today lol
There is no mention of any software being used except zoom
gl
Ty sir
most of the time they send you a coderpad or something link in the chat no?
That could be the case tbh
Normally I’m sent the zoom/Microsoft office link and also a link to coderpad or hackerrank etc
personally like getting google doc interviews cause you know there's no expectation to write compileable code
^ i actually like it too
Agreed, I just have never gotten those questions
I'd say I used heapq in like 2 or 3 of my interviews this year tbh
I think 90% of the questions I get are graphy/some tree thing/DP
I've used priority queues in a few questions
I've had 1 priority q question in 1 interview over all of undergrad
yeah I think the majority of my questions have been related to arrays
What kind of array stuff?
Stackss, I used to get a lot of those during internship searches
Now they're mostly only in OAs for me
Yeah I’ve only gotten DP once in an interview. I don’t think it’s a super important topic to focus on
I got DP in my Amazon final round for an internship last year 
^ i got a trie question
damn affirm froze hiring again
GEICO just began a first interview by stating a salary, saying it was non-negotiable, and asked on the spot if it was too low so they knew whether to move forward.
lol had that happen to me for an internship a year ago, i said that was fine for me as it was a cool location+company, still got rejected because recruiter knew curr internship pays >2x 😦
mfw "declined coding challenge"
Curious, what makes you apply but decline coding challenge?
If it's long lmaoo
I've rejected some companies because their OA were like 4-5 hours
jeez 4-5 hours?
Yeah
were they like hackerranks or custom stuff?
lol yea i hate those
I did one of those as joke and it was mostly me saying how i like wearing clothes
A canadian fashion site
Ah nice lol
I had one where they wanted me to develop a landing page using html, css and js
And I literally applied for a backend role
ooof
I have one coding challenge that's like the entire interview process and would probs take 8-10 hours
BRUH
Been procrastinating on it for a while
It's an involved process too, you make a RFC, they review that, if they approve then you implement first part, PR, approve, then the final part
@quick burrow u should play league with us sometime :)
we play usually like every night
wait wtf
LOL
EECS master race
o wait no
it's a reference
to this meme website thing
they changed the lyrics tho 😦
@quick burrow I'm guessing the affirm vs roblox vs doordash post in blind is yours?
congrats!
gratz hazel!
N ICE
@quick burrow did they tell you what team?
@quick burrow you're a beast, congrats on the offer!
@vocal carbon ssense?
@quick burrow yeah
How long does bloomberg take to reject after phone? 😛
I've heard they're really fast if they want to reject you
o are we doing sankeys
can we get got trolled story plz
yeah basically that
but it was too long so i just said got trolled
Where's the "promised offer but got rejected" option
name and shame xd
small startup
small small company?
why is intern_postings popping off but we haven't had a single job post since october
We're too old and washed up
for ppl that did jp morgan hirevue, how long did it take after to hear back?
about 2 weeks @spring verge
Bruh what is that Microsoft offer lol
For graduate student new grad?
It’s data scientist
It means the guys got a PhD
Basically 4+ years of work after their undergrad
No worries I found it
@fleet zealot could you share it again please
When does it make sense to stop mass applying to places? I feel like I need to spend less time applying and more time studying/doing leetcode because i have bombed some OAs this semester. I want to shift that time spent applying to places to prepare better but when does it make sense to slow down applications? It feels like by the number of rejections im getting that companies are finishing filling their new grad roles
I stopped when I realized that nobody cares about my resume
How come you can't do both at the same time? @south path
How come you can't do both at the same time? @south path
@peak dirge its exhausting. Im still a full time student, im involved in my extra curriculars, i still want to make time with friends, im no machine. I can do both but if i can cut back on one to make time for the other then id prefer to do that
Welcome to the life of a comp sci student lol. It is indeed hard but don't feel like you're alone. Literally mostly everyone is doing it. It's why we're all stressed haha
But it's probably best to prepare now for the winter/spring cycle if you don't have an offer
If you do 5 LC a day, by the time January/February roles around you'll be able to pass any interview
is your recommendation to just to straight up leetcode? or is there good resources or youtube channels out there that help you think through these types of problems? Like help build your intuition
Every LC problem more or less is categorized under subproblems. Like generating permutations/subsets are categorized under backtracking while some array problems can utilize two pointers/hashing, sorted arrays can utilize binary search, etc. You really have to understand which category problems belong to and from there it'll be easy to see which strategy to apply
rule of thumb
looking to apply Fall/Winter? Spring/Summer is when you do a bulk of your studying
looking to apply Spring/Summer? Fall/Winter is when you do a bulk of your studying
CS is tough because it's just not you anymore, you are competing with everyone else.
no shame though if you have to cram both at the same time. It means you sacrifice some personal life but it's a good investment for safety in knowledge you are hired after graduating
My parents found it wild when I described to them how CS interviews worked where there's 4 rounds of interviews and in each round of interview you get 2-3 coding questions from a pool of ~500 possible questions
They always asked why I was studying so hard with doing LC and I told them that's why
Yeah my family didn't know how stupid tough the interviews can be. So they were shocked that I studied while having part time job and full time school. In and out of bed constantly doing nothing else at times
it can be depressing
but my employment offer was worth it now I feel so much less anxious, this year has been fucked. I'm stupid lucky to get an offer.
When does the leetcode grind end tho
Oh yeah totally. I would wake up at 6am to study LC before school
but interview skills should stay sharp
I mean even after you get a job after college
If you wanna move to a different company
You gotta go back to square 1
But then when you look at how people at the age of 22 are making more money than their parents at that young of age it's pretty understandable why it's so cutthroat
I would say you don't have to grind so hard especially as you get more projects under your belt
yeah
super cutthroat technical wise and culture wise. you need to be a perfect candidate sometimes lol
In the moment you hate the LC grind, but as you do more and more you begin to understand why it's so hard to get into these companies that pay so much
grind now and reap more rewards later. CS job market may have shrunk some but it's one of the most lucrative.
there is actual rewards for it compared to other degrees
I love problem solving so I don't really mind it. But I'll grind away 6 hours of my life everyday studying LC if it means I'll be making ~$150,000 at the age of 22. It's true money doesn't buy happiness but that's why you have to find the perfect job as well that pays that much. And that's why it's so cutthroat because everyone wants those jobs lol
money can't buy happiness but that financial security makes it easier for you to be happy lmao
Money can't buy happiness but it'll sure af drive you to the front door of happiness lmao
agreed agreed
In the words of the great artist Future, "Would you rather cry in a Phantom or a Nissan"
LOL
honestly i just wanna work on cool shit
and i guess these are the hurdles i have to jump through
^same
has anyone taken sap final interview?
there are people that make fuck all money and hate their jobs
and i think doing something you like and making stacks is very rare
and worth working toward
like im not sitting here doing leetcode to make people click on ads
i'd rather cry in a bentley but it's not like a 100k job can let me afford that
LOL i've seen some serious panel gaps
i saw a model S tailgate gap that i could fully stick my pinky in
leetcode isnt gonna make you phantom money lmao
@vital granite to each his own but I’d rather cry in a Ferrari than a beat up broken down Toyota
@solid moth might be technical depending on your interviewer but usually just behavioral
What would you wear to a physical on-site if they engineer who video-interviewed you before was just wearing a t shirt and jeans? lol
Do some companies send swag for doing final rounds?
did anyone get invite for interview for the position of Application Support Specialist at Barclays??
Sometimes u gotta take a step back and gain some perspective for u to be satisfied with the grind and jobs and stuff
I struggled with this I constantly wanted a better offer, but I kinda just realized how greedy I was being especially since I’m only 20
But yeah sometimes you should relax and be satisfied with yourself
straight facts @worthy spear
yea it can quickly become a spiral
there's always someone that's going to make more than you
not if you work at rentech 🧠
then you realize you make peanuts compared to the people that own the fund
lol the highest paying job is being a dictator 🤷♂️
Anyone interview with charles schwab?
@sharp lichen just curious did you hear back from roblox yet? I remember them saying you'd hear back by last Thursday/Friday
Did anyone who registerd for Twitter's Codechella hackathon hear back? It's supposed to be this weekend I believe
*register
roblox too busy planning Nas X’s concert to give us offers
Better than rejections
i’ve only seen one person got rejected so far after the final
i hope they’re just getting signatures and stuff and not leaving everyone in the cold 🥶
they might be calling people back after everyones done with interviews
i think i have the last interview slot and mine is tmrw
i hope so but i gots a deadline tomorrow
can you push it back more? i feel like they need 1-2 days to talk about it
@tall nebula nope. im thinking
to work at the place i accepted for 2-3 years
then roblox will get back to me, then i can start working there then
wow 2-3 years is optimistic
maybe they'll get back to you when roblox is real life?
yeah no one has heard back from roblox besides some people with competing offers
i think they match make you first before giving an offer
wow
i had a really good phone interview for clumio. coded out 2 questions and verbally answered the 3rd, yet still rejected
i think they match make you first before giving an offer
@orchid ibex they matchmade before
you're interviewing for the hiring manager's team you interviewed with
hmm actually well im doing internship
oh LOL
Maybe roblox isnt hiring as much? I feel like they would have told us by now if we are getting offers
i just think that they are very unorganized
network traffic team I think
did you guys get leetcode or just the open ended problem
leetcode
intern
ooo hopefully its diff for new grad
I got open ended
it was a leetcode easy
o ok nice
it comes down to your hiring manager
its bed time for me
you dont really need to grind for it
ya i hope i rng something i rlly want this job
hiring manager was entirely behavioral for me
yay thank you ❤️
Mine was just as the email said
bar raiser was small open ended and rest behavioral
Hiring manager fully behavioral
yeah my email was half technical half behaviour
Bar raiser behavioral with a random open ended
Yeah urs was intern asfah where they combine both
Lol farmer billy mine was pretty standard hr questions too ya
My microsoft interviewer said that last year
He spent alot of time talking about his team
and then I got rejected
Well hopefully roblox gets back to all of us eventually
I feel like they're probably just waiting for everyone to interview
or they're doing some weird stack ranking shit
did you guys answer the google form
I think everyone who got onsite did
I mean what do you lose by doing the form now
you don't get robux by not doing the form
The recruiting team at roblox was 2 people in the summer. They only added 1 more person. They work long hours so just try to give them time and u can email them too (but not like 100 times either)
@bold gull did u work there last summer?
Yes
cool if i dm
Sure but please everyone don't go crazy DMing me loll. I can't get them to respond to you faster 😅
If u got 2/3 on OA then its def worth doing form
They were the rare case where 100% on oa wasnt necessary
Which was cool
i didn't even finish any of the OAs lol
i think i got like half the test cases for all of them
What form?
I took the OA got 100% a while back never heard back
Yeah same
i think they sent the form before the OA
They did I think
but I don't think there was a clear deadline in filling it out
tbh wonder why they even had OA
I didn't 100% the OA lol
and I feel like a lot of people didn't
maybe to see who put in the effort to do it instead of blindly applying?
i fucked up my oa and also did it late xd
It basically ended up being a resume screen tho
Q3 tho
Most of the q3s that I've heard about sound tough af
roblox really doing this to me
they know
i tried making an account yesterday and it errored me out but not my roommate
Maybe they'll rehire q1
literally a sign that its doomed
my precious robux
@cursive loom idt they'll hire q1? unless headcount goes brrr again
their process didn't seem to cut a lot of people though
like personally my technical questions were like LC mediums
and on the easier side
imo
so unless they really start cracking down on behavioral + hm interviews
like personally my technical questions were like LC mediums
and their OA was like 10x harder so if you got through the OA but can't get through the technicals
roblox wait is brutal
that was just my experience though, can't speak to anybody else's
2x eng doesn't mean 2x new grads though? usually companies account for future growth in determining new grad headcount
but who knows wtf is going on with covid
I mean idk. I'm just sharing what I heard lolll
gotcha yeah i'm also just speculating 🙂
ik doordash is also expanding 2x but it doesn't sound like they're going to recruit into Q1
Ah I see
the place i'm at rn is also expanding by a factor of n where 1 < n < 2 but no new grad hires
i hope we all get roblox and have a party in roblox
I mean they gave me an offer in may last year. Granted it was intern but I wouldn't be surprised if they keep hiring
I mean they gave me an offer in may last year. Granted it was intern but I wouldn't be surprised if they keep hiring
@bold gull did(n't) they start their hiring process last year later though?
I mean they gave me an offer in may last year. Granted it was intern but I wouldn't be surprised if they keep hiring
@bold gull yeah but last year was a special case where they reopened apps to farm all the rescinds
^
:<
the work at qualtrics sounds underwhelming
Anybody here gave DoorDash onsite?
Would like to know about the interview experience
y do u say that @cerulean pivot ?
@rapid crown you can search in #2021_grad_process
i like how the fruit reacts look
their mission is to collect data from employees so employers can make more informed decisions
but you can make the text red when ppl don't fill in required fields
it just doesn’t sound that technically challenging
but yes - I 100% agree with @cerulean pivot
LMAO
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Malamute
shiba?? 😄
do you want small small boi