2021_grads

[grave gull]

same idk lol

[spring verge]

these companies playing me 😦

[sly saffron]

I also got the invite but I haven't heard back from them since my OA

[dusky robin]

Got the same thing, I think its a mistake

Cuz i havent heard back since hackerrank

[spring verge]

i didn't even do an OA lmao

[dusky robin]

Yeah they prolly messed up

[grave gull]

weird

[autumn lynx]

Whats ama lol

[sweet vigil]

Whats ama lol
@autumn lynx ask me anything

[arctic drift]

I would hire myself

[tight marlin]

microsoft is so rng it's crazy

[ornate charm]

They said there were no right or wrong answers so I can’t tell how I did
@eager glacier superday?

[sharp lichen]

does anyone know newgrad roblox comp

so i can feel better about not getting it

[quick panther]

Salary: 142k
Equity: 8000 shares over 4 years
Relocation: 16k

[formal reef]

Bruh, I was expecting a bunch of leetcode question from msft, but I got a bunch of hypothetical what would you do?
@eager glacier what team and location? I had a similar experience where I had barely any leetcode

[proven badger]

omg yall are so lucky I hope I also get barely any leetcode for msft T_T

[sharp lichen]

@quick panther how much is each share or is it $8000 over 4 years

[quick panther]

idk it's someone else's offer

but it's 8000 RSU

idk how much each RSU is

[spiral glade]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-rew-inside-rewi-distorted-dank-gif-17183483

[real prism]

ive read that shares are around $6 ea right, but theyre pricing it at $25 or something

[arctic drift]

Yup

[vagrant belfry]

Damn these T Rowe Price offers are good. Never expected that they pay so much

[tawdry herald]

Any idea what are the odds of getting a new team are if you decline the amazon return intern offer?

[sweet vigil]

Am I over complicating the Redfin OA or what

[stark otter]

really weird, a friend of mine got a bloomberg reject today despite doing fairly well in the phone call

stumbled at first sum but did it and gave a generic leet code solution for second

i wonder what are they grading on

[native ruin]

My bloomberg interviewer told me verbatim "you have to do hackerrank every waking moment if you want to get into a top firm (referring to bloomberg)" and followed it with "it's not about getting a job, it's about becoming a better engineer" 🙃

[tired bay]

Yeah for sure

[steel drum]

Any idea on how's the Experian OA?

[digital carbon]

My bloomberg interviewer told me verbatim "you have to do hackerrank every waking moment if you want to get into a top firm (referring to bloomberg)" and followed it with "it's not about getting a job, it's about becoming a better engineer" 🙃
@native ruin like they said this during an interview?

Bloomberg doesn't ask hard questions afaik

[stark otter]

yeah

as i said

she gave the right answers since she had done those problems on Lc beforehand

there is another skill at test here

🤔

@digital carbon did you get bloomberg offer?

[native ruin]

@digital carbon it was right after I didn't do too hot on a graph question and he told me to study graphs and trees more lmao

[digital carbon]

@digital carbon did you get bloomberg offer?
@stark otter uh yea. well I interned there twice and will be returning ft

@digital carbon it was right after I didn't do too hot on a graph question and he told me to study graphs and trees more lmao
@native ruin damn really sorry to hear that. such a tone deaf thing to say at the end of an interview

but I guess he/she was being honest so... 🤷‍♂️

[native ruin]

Haha it's no big deal

Only makes me stronger 💪

[silver owl]

i'd honestly disagree that practicing LC past the point of consistently being able to do mediums has anything to do with being a better engineer

[digital carbon]

hmm I'd say it's just a very niche thing that's only useful for a small set of developers

so for them, it does help them become better engineers

but yea in general it definitely doesn't

[sweet vigil]

Any idea on how's the Experian OA?
@steel drum which position

[stark otter]

Oh congrats! @digital carbon

[steel drum]

Xcelerator rotation program@sweet vigil

[stark otter]

what would you say they look for in interviews?

any specific approach ? other than being good at LC

[digital carbon]

No clue tbh lmao

I feel like people overemphasize getting the right/optimal solution though. Communication is also a huge part of an interview. You don't have to be talking the whole time, but if the interviewer is left guessing how you're approaching the problem, then that's not good.

Like getting the right solution is obviously important, but if you just go up to the board, throw up some code and call it a day then it's not gonna help the interviewer

Also just general soft skills and not coming off as a social hermit are nice

Yea if that works for you then keep doing it, as long as the interviewer knows whats going on in your mind

[silver owl]

i really hate when the interviewer is quieter and i'm just sitting there talking to a wall

[stark otter]

good insight

i need to practice with that

[acoustic mural]

For anyone who had a Microsoft phone interview recently, have you heard back? It's been nearly 2 weeks for me and I'm worried that it's bad news. I told them I had an offer deadline that's coming up

[worthy spear]

I need to practice that... I can't talk and code at the same time 😅

[simple hazel]

I found it a lot more intuitive to talk and write pseudocode first. Then it's pretty straightforward to talk and translate pseudocode to code

[proven badger]

@acoustic mural they told me 3-5 weeks but I heard back the next day

[bold gull]

@acoustic mural I heard back in 2 days that I made it to finals. I'm going on week 5 waiting to schedule and just heard back from recruiter after 2 weeks from sending about a competing offer that they are still scheduling but I haven't been scheduled yet and they won't meet the deadline

Id expect to be done in December if lucky

[acoustic mural]

Ah rip, they definitely seem super back logged

[bold gull]

Definitely. I was like yes they are finally sending the invite and nope its just more waiting

[acoustic mural]

Out of curiosity, when is your deadline?

[bold gull]

First week november

I heard Microsoft just takes super long with everything

But its kinda extra at this point

They say they have everything scheduled but won't send invites out. A bit sus

[rose rivet]

has anyone had the onsite with indeed?

[worthy cedar]

@quick burrow do u think they'll be hiring may 2021 grads in q1 then?

[lyric nest]

@quick burrow any idea abt how the OCI layoff/PIP situation is?

[worthy spear]

Oracle is mostly legal 😂

Join them if ya wanna work on legacy stuff

[gloomy edge]

How to get to Oracle interview though? I am grduating this December but none of my applications at Oracle portal has been responded and all the hiring managers I talk to on LinkedIn say they are hiring someone with 5+ years of experince.

yes, I have applied to them, but I have not gotten any response. IDK but people from electrical department are getiing approached by recruiters and getting interview calls. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. It's just disappointing.

I am not sure what should we do to stand out or make them consider us for the roles?

[dusky robin]

I wouldnt worry about it too much. They ignored my online applications as well

[gloomy edge]

yea, you are right referrals don't mean anything, My freind applied through referral and still got nothing.

IDK people used to say job search is easier as compared to internships but it seems more tough.

[gloomy edge]

I'm applying from July, and haven't gotten any interview yet. I pass all the OA but it always ends up in reject.

that's good man.

may i need to change something or improve and definitely pray

[sweet vigil]

id rather it take a while but get reasonable offers
@worthy spear we internationals don’t get that “while”

[gloomy edge]

@worthy spear we internationals don’t get that “while”
@sweet vigil True that

[vocal carbon]

35k in seattle? Damn

[raw vessel]

Does anyone got in the DUOLINGO thrive program or did the internship before ???? Or do you know someone who did

[old kestrel]

Does anyone got in the DUOLINGO thrive program or did the internship before ???? Or do you know someone who did
@raw vessel
please dont spam

[lyric nest]

@quick burrow how's the WLB in OCI for new grads? And how's OCI in general?

[glass dove]

What is OCI?

[mystic mica]

But the thing about making interns use their own laptops is hella sus and shows how cheap the company is lmao
@quick burrow no way, you're meming right?

[lyric nest]

@quick burrow yeah..OCI has definitely had some issues..thing is their offer is really good lol..so thinking abt whether to go for better wlb, etc or more TC

[mystic mica]

I’d have to double check the facts but I distinctly remember him saying that when I brought home the MacBook Pro my internship shipped me
@quick burrow wait but they still shipped you a laptop then

[spice belfry]

do you guys email a thank you note to interviewers after the interview?

or the recruiter?

or no one at all?

[silver owl]

only when i want a followup

[radiant shore]

do you guys email a thank you note to interviewers after the interview?
@spice belfry no. Too cringe

[bronze canopy]

Thank you notes can be cringe but they can also be great tools to leave a final impression

[autumn lynx]

how is saying thank you to your interviewer cringe lmao (as long as its not extra)

[arctic drift]

yeah what I say thanks

building rapport with your recruiter is a good thing

[patent cloak]

It can sometimes feel like you’re trying to kiss their ass

[real root]

but thats exactly what you're trying to do

[arctic drift]

^

also worst case it's not going to hurt your reputation unless you actually sound like an ass lol

[bronze canopy]

Recruiters thrive off of the ass kissing

[spring verge]

anyone head back from redfin?

after the coding challenge?

technically it was due yesterday but i didn't realize that till after I submitted so I wonder if they'll just throw my submission out

[autumn lynx]

yeah thats what i meant. keep it short and just thank them for interviewing you. dont make it seem like you're kissing their ass

[spice belfry]

wait so you kiss the recruiter's ass right

*thank the recruiter

bc it makes more sense to thank the interviewer but i don't see how you'd get their email during the interview you feel

[copper fractal]

I dont really think it helps at bigger companies anyway. Usually they have a scorecard for the interview and they judge you on that

Maybe follow up for smaller companies

[patent cloak]

Exactly, like they’re gonna give the job to the person who performed the best at the interview. Sending a thank you email after probably isn’t going to win them over if you didn’t already in the interview. Imo it’s best to thank them for their time and whatnot at the end of the interview right before saying goodbye

[keen onyx]

Did anyone hear back from Square?

[digital carbon]

y'all really overthinking sending thank you notes smh

just send one if you feel like it, they'll probably appreciate it. worst case it doesn't hurt you

[sly nebula]

anyone done a 90 minute final round with bloomberg? i would much appreciate some insight!

[atomic pivot]

Did anyone hear back from Square?
@keen onyx they opened up new grad?

[keen onyx]

Yeah, long time back though

[uneven pasture]

anyone done a 90 minute final round with bloomberg? i would much appreciate some insight!
@sly nebula this is probably a 1 hr engineering manager + 30 min hr, prepare resume/design questions/why bloomberg

[worthy spear]

Is it worth applying to c1 after getting rejected? Obviously not for the same position.

[ebon belfry]

no never apply to them again

that will show them

also make sure u never use their products either

[warped ledge]

1 job > 0 jobs

And Cap1 is a pretty decent place to work, they hire often, pay a decent amount, codebase isn’t super old

That’s also true it’s lower stress, low risk work

Not like the market crashes in a couple years and Cap1 disappears yk

[sly nebula]

thanks chinatiger! and im not actually sure, i sent my availability and am waiting on confirmation from my recruiter

[still vector]

Has anyone done the bar raiser interview at Roblox yet? Not quite sure what to expect for it tbh

[uneven pasture]

I'm curious as to who gets bar raiser and who gets 30 min director 15 min VP

[turbid furnace]

is Google 2021 Software Engineer application open?

[uneven pasture]

Bar raiser is just 45 min right?

[still vector]

Bar raiser is just 45 min right?
@uneven pasture Yep I think so

[tired bay]

@turbid furnace Nope maybe January maybe never

[turbid furnace]

What i came across was Application Engineer. Is it going to similar or something totally different?

[tired bay]

Probs somewhat different more focused on infrastructure and making sure applications can get shipped would be my guess

[worthy spear]

@warped ledge @tame latch @eager glacier @tame latch

Lol thanks! I was just asking because I heard that if you get rejected from one of the jobs/programs then you're rejected the from all the other ones too.

[viscid crater]

I mean specifically for google if you fail onsite 3 times u are perma banned from working
@tame latch I heard that wasn’t actually true

[primal summit]

Amazon started waitlisting?

[autumn lynx]

Apparently from the other chat ^

[wraith basin]

Is linkedin not hiring this year?

[pliant orchid]

I don’t think so. I have been waiting for their application to open

[unkempt echo]

wtf

did the logo change color again??

[cerulean pivot]

no ur just seeing things

:)

[unkempt echo]

it started red right

[cerulean pivot]

ye

[unkempt echo]

ok

ty

[cerulean pivot]

it will change for xmas soon

soon

but for now we red

[unkempt echo]

when it turned orange ppl convinced me it was always orange

[cerulean pivot]

lmao it was just for halloween

[vital granite]

I'm actually in touch with a recruiter at google

definitely no info on 2021 SWE until at least January. Just keep an eye out on their site around christmas time.

[turbid lintel]

What’s the better offer from a financial point of view, purely looking at money: 105k Plano Texas or 200k Bay Area

[peak dirge]

So no new grad postings for Google till January? I have 3 Google referrals to use that expire in the middle of November

[unkempt echo]

depends on the comp breakdown

if its 200k salary definitely bay

[turbid lintel]

TC not base

[unkempt echo]

if its like 130 base bay and 10 base plano youd prob live a more comfy life in plano

but youd save quicker in the bay

[vital granite]

nope at the very least the recruiter I was in touch with told me no news on it until January

And I was already invited to just go straight into the final rounds of interviewing but it kept getting delayed unfortunately

also depends what kind of living space you get of yourself

be very smart about it because cali can rob you quick before you know it

[frosty forum]

What’s the better offer from a financial point of view, purely looking at money: 105k Plano Texas or 200k Bay Area
@turbid lintel What company for Plano? I got an offer for 95k base from C1 in the plano area

[turbid lintel]

Ya C1 same

Just wanted to understand how much 200k actually is in the bay

[frosty forum]

i like to use this, but people have mixed opinions on this calculator. so bay area offer is slightly higher

How'd you get 105k base from C1? (nvm i see it's TC now rip)

[wild sun]

@frosty forum what calculator is this?

[frosty forum]

https://www.nerdwallet.com/cost-of-living-calculator

[unkempt echo]

this calculator is for SALARY fyi

[vital granite]

thanks this is useful

anyways with 200k in bay area

you'll be fine

[frosty forum]

oh good point, @turbid lintel use the calculator with your base salary

[vital granite]

and be able to save a good amount

just... be smart where you live lol

no shame in living in a city next to the work location

[iron gate]

Has anyone done the bar raiser interview at Roblox yet? Not quite sure what to expect for it tbh
@still vector did my roblox bar raiser last friday

it's not a system design question at all just a heads up

think of it as a way to determine how you would approach a vague open-ended problem and come up with your own solution

mine wasn't technical

[obtuse stone]

@turbid lintel fyi those COL calculators aren't always reliable because they assume you also want to buy a house in that location in the future

you can live modestly in the bay and still come out on top by a good amount

[frosty forum]

yeah but those were TC numbers instead of base salary

[obtuse stone]

why does that matter? it's still income in the same fiscal year

[frosty forum]

For example, the 105 plano TC includes a 10k bonus that's post-tax, so it'd be just 95k that'd they owe tax on

[obtuse stone]

getting post-tax bonuses is pretty uncommon, for the most part any stock/bonus you get that is tacked onto TC is still taxed along with base

not a big reason to draw a line between base and TC imo

[frosty forum]

probably should've mentioned that it's a sign on bonus, so it would only be 105k for the first year and then 95k so it would make sense to calculate it for 95k anyways. idk about the 200k TC number tho

[old kestrel]

Post tax relocation bonus is very common

[obtuse stone]

ah ok yea I assumed those numbers were all pre-tax, and yea they should consider recurring comp after first year too

my point is, compensation at a lot of companies also include a large amount of stocks or annual bonuses that you should factor in when breaking down post-tax take home income

and when I see calculators saying 50k in Oklahoma is equal to like 180k in the bay, that's not fully accurate

[unkempt echo]

equity is liable to capital taxes (some nuance there) changes over time and you're on a vesting schedule, bonus is withheld at a higher rate, salary is really your only consistent income

if you're trying to budget (rent, utilties, food per monthly basis) imo you should really only take salary into account especially early career and just stick all other income into a portfolio until you have some larger purchases u wanna make

so TC is a pretty bad metric and causes new grads to overspend

you're still subject to short term capital gain iirc

not a tax professional tho just from personal experience with my portfolio

[obtuse stone]

also you'll get back bonus witholdings from tax returns

[unkempt echo]

my point was more about the time at which you get your money

[bold gull]

@obtuse stone whats the link you used for that calculator?

[obtuse stone]

https://smartasset.com/taxes/california-tax-calculator#kAgPBx7Ue0

[bold gull]

Thanks!

[obtuse stone]

there's other nuances too to the actual take home like if you contribute to traditional 401k, etc, but it's a solid estimate overall

np

[blissful adder]

for people that are familiar with the bay area, how realistic is it to take a job for 100 base, live frugally for a year or two and the bounce to a place with better pay?

[old kestrel]

which part of that would be unrealistic?

the part where somewhere besides the bay has better pay?

[blissful adder]

correction: company in the bay with better comp

the living frugally part -- i dont have a good frame of reference for the lifestyle at 100k in the area

how realistic is it to find a cheap apartment and put money away but not hate your life

[autumn lynx]

100k is enough have a decent apartment in SF ur good

[atomic pivot]

I mean taxes are a bitch. Uh I guess lifestyle depends on you right?

[autumn lynx]

If you get roommates and split the rent it’ll be fine

[atomic pivot]

Yea

[autumn lynx]

If you want a studio in SF thatlll cost you a lot

[blissful adder]

yeah nah roommates are chill while im young

[autumn lynx]

Yeah that’s more than enough dw

[blissful adder]

yeah really just wanna afford to eat out a few times a week and some outdoor sports equipment -- I guess a car bc thats how cali works

good insight, appreciate it

[atomic pivot]

Yes. You’ll be fine lol

Unless you have major debt?

[autumn lynx]

Yeah ur good

[blissful adder]

nah

my current savings should cover my debt

[autumn lynx]

You can always take the Bart in sf too

[blissful adder]

thats the train?

[autumn lynx]

Or live outside sf and take the Bart to commute

It’d be cheaper

[blissful adder]

got it thanks

[autumn lynx]

Wdym it’s not that bad lol

Besides occasional homeless people

If you’re tryna save money

True

Yea I’ve never been bothered by homeless people here. They just yell tho

Where u from?

[blissful adder]

then again I'm female so it's more intimidating 200%
@quick burrow unfortunately

[mental frigate]

Which chat was amazon waitlist spotted in?

[stark otter]

yeh tf

[white monolith]

Which chat was amazon waitlist spotted in?
@mental frigate https://discord.gg/8vhHYpGj

[old kestrel]

cal train is nice

[still vector]

I feel like bart is fine during rush hour but it gets pretty sketch after ~9pm

[leaden venture]

A homeless person threw a chicken leg at me on the bart once

Completely unprovoked

[autumn lynx]

Did u throw it back?

[silver owl]

my friend said he saw a guy try to yank a girl's phone out of her hand in plain sight on the last bart of the night

during commute hours its not that bad but there's still the occasional crazy guy yelling

also the area surrounding some bart stations (civic center esp) is extremely intimidating

[autumn lynx]

Never been on it late so I’m a little biased

[silver owl]

i used to work at a non profit in the homeless central of <city> and i still havent felt as unsafe as i have in sf

[autumn lynx]

What do u do if someone throws a chicken leg at you lmao

[silver owl]

throw it back

[autumn lynx]

That’s the highest form of disrespect

Lmao

Mans prob hungry but went out of his way to throw it at u

[silver owl]

this only works if you're physically more intimidating and the other guy isnt armed

[marble pond]

a homeless guy came up to me, asked for $1, I gave him a $5, then he asked for a $20

[blissful adder]

^ a classic

[copper fractal]

^that kinda reminds me of anyone who negotiates a salary

[old kestrel]

lmao

[unkempt echo]

bart: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Human-waste-shuts-down-BART-escalators-3735981.php#:~:text=When work crews pulled open,call a hazardous-materials team.&text=The problem is tough to,open late%2C BART authorities said.

[balmy depot]

yeah bart is truly screwed. CHAD caltrain is the right move

[errant charm]

Wanna hear something funny?

I haven't refreshed my DS A skills but tried the AMZN online task that I was sent...

[atomic pivot]

and u aced it lol?

[errant charm]

I get an easy question to find an item in a 2d array and a question about deep copy of linked list with random element, 1st was ezpz, 2nd I used the copy.deepcopy builtin python library 👀

Hahahaha

Passed all the tests, got invitation to the last part, but prolly gonna get rejected after it when they look at the code

[atomic pivot]

i see this is what they mean by study smarter not harder 👀

[errant charm]

I hope it gives them a laugh at least hahaha

Optimal 1 line solution

[atomic pivot]

"Can you explain this"

"yea look at the python library"

[balmy depot]

Anyone had the doordash onsite yet?

[woven juniper]

what is the healthcare startup 👀

[frosty forum]

^^ also wondering

[snow canopy]

Anyone have Microsoft recruiter email or a linkedin? Really need! Please DM me.

[old kestrel]

Does ur school not have a dedicated recruiter

[lilac geode]

Does ur school not have a dedicated recruiter
@old kestrel for me at penn state there's no such things for tech companies at least

[old kestrel]

Huh

UCF has some dedicated recruiters

Yeah idk

UCF has dedicated recruiters for Facebook google and Microsoft so it’s p easy for us to reach out

Maybe just search random recruiters on LinkedIn

[lilac geode]

University park

I never went to career fairs tho so maybe I'm wrong

Lol yeah I realized that after I commented

Makes sense

Although there's like no psu students at big tech companies

All the banks recruit hard here

[placid orchid]

Is it unusual to not get an offer letter at the same time as the offer email? Not sure how much I can trust a email "offer"

[unkempt echo]

not unusual but nothing is final till u get the written signable letter

[placid orchid]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I have an exploding offer tonight and I'm worried I'll shoot myself in the foot if I decline and then the offer disappears

[unkempt echo]

did you tell the company that emailed you that you have an exploding offer

[placid orchid]

Yeah I let the recruiter know and he confirmed it with me the day I got the email too

[unkempt echo]

hmm

[placid orchid]

I heard msft is super slow with things though so maybe it's normal?

[unkempt echo]

oh its msft?

should be fine then

[placid orchid]

Yeah msft

[unkempt echo]

although if you want to minimize your risk

best move would be to sign and reneg exploding offer

not that i recommend that lol

[placid orchid]

Yeah it would be way safer but reneging feels so rude

[unkempt echo]

you kno what else is rude

an exploding offer

[placid orchid]

although tbf they would probably renege with no regrets if it was them lmao

Yeah that's true. Exploding offers make everything more stressful than they should be

[crimson shale]

if amazon is already whitelisting I might just give up on big n

interviewed friday afternoon for 30 min, this will be devastating if I just missed "the cutoff"

[warm jolt]

With signing bonuses when do you normally recieve them? Upon signing or when you start?

[arctic drift]

I think usually like first paycheck it gets tacked on

[autumn lynx]

interviewed friday afternoon for 30 min, this will be devastating if I just missed "the cutoff"
@crimson shale same my interview is on Friday

[tired bay]

Tonight was first decision deadline so might have just been lets see how many people accept

[bronze canopy]

“We thought the interview went very well. Would you have a free minute Monday afternoon to chat?”

Spoiler alert jeeeez

[quick panther]

^ i would honestly prefer that over the ambiguity

nowadays people call to reject u

[bronze canopy]

I’m not complaining !!!

[atomic pivot]

I’m not complaining !!!
@bronze canopy gl!!! 🙂

[bronze canopy]

Ty ty

[dusk linden]

is bloomberg still hiring? I have tried spamming dozens of recruiters to no avail 😐

[pulsar trench]

did anyone manage to negotiate a new grad MSFT offer?

[tranquil rampart]

Any tips for Bloomberg first technical phone screen

[placid orchid]

@placid orchid msft seems super fast for me but i told them i have offer deadlines
@worthy spear I interviewed last monday and got the offer email last friday, but without an offer letter. Not sure if that's fast or not for msft

oof lol

Haven't heard of msft rescinding offers that much so hopefully it'll be okay

[tranquil rampart]

is bloomberg still hiring? I have tried spamming dozens of recruiters to no avail 😐
@dusk linden got an email to schedule a call last week

[autumn lynx]

did you have a referral?

[tranquil rampart]

did you have a referral?
@autumn lynx I was referred but I accidentally applied via another email

[sweet vigil]

Twilio really be sending out Ls after OA yet asking people to fill in an interview feedback survey smh

[rapid jackal]

did anyone pass all the clear street project tests

been sitting here for hours rerunning sample and custom test cases and have no idea whats going on w/ the hidden boys

[chilly snow]

has amazon started waitlisting

folks for SDE 2021?

[chilly snow]

Darn. 😿

[native ruin]

Anyone know the starting salary for Goldman Sachs Quantitative Stratigist?

[torn ivy]

Thankful for this chat! Great thing that we can all be connected like this so easily

I hope everyone finds their dream jobs soon

[native ruin]

No u

[turbid furnace]

Teams with easiest interview at Oracle? OCI is the toughest i guess

[magic sable]

Oh damn, anyone interviewed for Amazon last week? Are they sending waitlist to everyone now?

[crimson shale]

i interviewed on friday

[chilly snow]

i interviewed on friday
@crimson shale How was it? What'd they ask

[crimson shale]

@crimson shale How was it? What'd they ask
@chilly snow mine was 30 min of OA2 review. then they have you ask questions. no LC or real behavioral

[chilly snow]

That's a real gift. Good 🙂

[rocky spoke]

got a first round technical with bloomberg. safe to assume it'll be a standard DS&A?

[oak quest]

Has anyone here given Microsoft's final round, virtual onsite?? Please share your experience with me, thank you!

[rocky spoke]

cool thanks @tame latch

[rapid crown]

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He has very few days left on his OPT Visa. To extend it, he would need to find a full-time role at the earliest. He exhibits great skills in Python, Java, Full-Stack Development, SQL.
I would request everyone to please reach out to him if you have any lead and others, please like/share/comment on the post below for your connections to help him out.
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[daring bough]

hello 2021 grads 🙂

[marble pond]

wat an og friend

[copper fractal]

Uh literally everyone on the server is looking for roles

[stark otter]

yeah

[worthy spear]

^^

[old kestrel]

And none of us can hire people

[oblique pelican]

has anyone heard from citrix or cloudflare after their oa?

[thorny mango]

I haven't heard back from Cloudflare after my OA

[oblique pelican]

same. It's probably safe to assume that there won't be an interview at this point, yeah?

[thorny mango]

I wouldn't assume that yet. Hiring is a slow process in my experience

[elder inlet]

when you have to solve 2 problems in 45 mins and you already know the optimal approach, do you start with the optimal one or the suboptimal one?

[thorny mango]

If its an OA optimal, if its in person explain both and do the optimal

[noble crag]

@oblique pelican @thorny mango when did you both do the Cloudlfare OA?

[thorny mango]

I did mine within 4 days of receiving it. Like 2 weeks ago I believe

[noble crag]

I did it Wednesday before last, they said to give em two weeks, so.

Lol if they ghost after assigning a take home project 🙃

[thorny mango]

I would expect to hear back this week

I think if we haven't gotten a reject it's probably a good sign because maybe they're getting ready for interviews

[oblique pelican]

I also did mine within 2-3 days of getting it

My impression was that they were gonna start the interview process on a rolling basis

hence is the reason why I am surprised how late the response is

[noble crag]

I did mine the night of, bonus project too, and haven’t heard anything so I’m assuming they haven’t reached out to anyone from that wave yet 🤷‍♀️

[patent cloak]

@oblique pelican Citrix got back to me a week after I did my OA

[oblique pelican]

Good to know. Maybe Citrix is a ghost for me 😭

[vivid crow]

Did anyone applied for Amazon new grad in last two weeks or so?

is there a hiring freeze?

they haven't got back to me yet

[tired bay]

Amazon has started a waitlist at this point

[magic sable]

Does the waitlist work?

[arctic drift]

get on it and let us know

tbh though what's the worst that'll happen if you join

[magic sable]

lol yaa I got in it but just wondering if anyone has ever got an offer from that

[sharp lichen]

im pretty sure yea

[vivid crow]

Are people getting OA's now?

or is it too late now

[sly saffron]

Does anyone know how C3.ai hiring works? Do they hire for specific teams from the beginning? Or they just hiring generalists and then assigning them teams?

[noble crag]

@vivid crow It’s not too late but it’s getting there. Even then, don’t just give up.

[lucid schooner]

What does it mean when a company sends an email that says they are looking at you application now? Like, should I expect something soon?

[ornate charm]

What are some good questions to ask a company in behavioral rounds where they expect you to ask questions?

[cerulean pivot]

ask questions that make them talk about their own experiences

people love to talk about themselves

if u can find the interviewers linkedin or something and phrase questions that get them talking about a certain experience at a prev company and how it relates to the current company its a good move

[torn ivy]

Any Muslims in this chat? Have a question about halal 401K investing...

[cerulean pivot]

ask in #international maybe

[torn ivy]

Or if anyone knows if you can choose a 401K package that isn’t offered by your company and have them still sponsor it somehow

[lucid schooner]

@uneven isle no its not twitter

[latent cipher]

has anyone done the OCI onsite? would appreciate hearing abt your experience

[wraith basin]

!salary ebay

[feral marten]

Unable to locate data on Ebay

[rocky spoke]

@latent cipher would love to know too

having mine in 2 weeks

[real prism]

So anyone hear back from roblox yet

[grave gull]

@old garden you should reach out to your doordash recruiter

they're fast

my turnaround time was about 48 hours business days

[old garden]

@grave gull Thx!

[dusk linden]

any one here interviewing for OCI IAM team specifically?

[tiny wedge]

asked the recruiter to put me back into team matching for vmware, wish me luck

[latent cipher]

@dusk linden when were you told which team you were interviewing for? my onsite is tomorrow lol & no one said anything

[dusk linden]

the recruiter reached out to me saying this was for that team.

i guess i had applied to that specific team myself. hence the recruiter knew it as well

[latent cipher]

@dusk linden is this for an IC1 position?

[dusk linden]

nop. an IC3^

[latent cipher]

ah that’s probably it then! are you an undergrad?

[worthy spear]

Should I email my recruiter about my process or should I just wait until the end of this week? I'm getting really anxious about it.

[raw pollen]

Do you guys inform the company if your declining the offer? Or just wait for the offer to expire?

[latent cipher]

@worthy spear where are you in what process?

[worthy spear]

Completed first round

[short star]

How was the OCI technical phone interview?

[rapid jackal]

Anyone else still don't have any offers

Hoping for another wave in the spring

[atomic pivot]

i dont

im sure plenty of people dont lol

[broken cloak]

has anyone done a phone screen w/ scaleai & what should i be expecting?

[neon zinc]

@broken cloak just did phone with scale

[balmy depot]

Do you all send a thank you email to your interviewers after an interview? keep getting conflicting info on it

[nocturne relic]

The only time I did they ghosted me...I doubt it hurts but idk how much it helps

[blissful adder]

Anyone else still don't have any offers
@rapid jackal there are thousands on this server, i assure you, you are not alone

[winged patio]

Quick poll if there is a job offer deadline for a specific date, do you have to accept it by the end of the business day on that date for before 11:59pm?

[grave gull]

ask ur recruiter

[winged patio]

What of the end of the business day is technically in 5 min?

[grave gull]

look

do you like gambling

[placid orchid]

Quick poll if there is a job offer deadline for a specific date, do you have to accept it by the end of the business day on that date for before 11:59pm?
@winged patio it's 11:59 day of for amazon at least

[grave gull]

slide into their instagram dms

every company is different

[winged patio]

lmao ok

[grave gull]

u just gotta

idk how you got urself in this situation

worst case take and renege

[winged patio]

I didn't expect to be ghosted by a company who I got to the final round with who said they would get back to me by a deadline and then never did 😛

I guess I will take thanks for the advice

[grave gull]

ah that's unfortunate

probably safer to just take 🙂

[latent cipher]

@short star not bad! i hit it off w my interviewer so we had like 30 mins of behavioral then 1 lc medium (solved non-optimally, talked abt the optimal solution after he gave me a hint)

[cerulean pivot]

ask questions that make them talk about their own experiences
@cerulean pivot also to reiterate on this, if ur having a recruiter call, one of the go to questions i tend to ask specifically is how they ended up at X company or recruiting in general. recruiters tend to have really untraditional paths, it gets them to talk about themselves, and usually the stories are genuinely interesting

[short star]

@latent cipher thanks! I appreciate it

[latent cipher]

np! good luck!

[short star]

thanks!

[zinc bramble]

asked the recruiter to put me back into team matching for vmware, wish me luck
@tiny wedge lol bruh

id gladly take that C programming position

[tiny wedge]

hopefully they give u a call soon

[ebon belfry]

i called dibs first

@zinc bramble is sus

[tiny wedge]

shoulda given it away auction style considering how sparse vmware offers are 🧐

[quick panther]

daily update on my almost 2 months into team matching

[woven tartan]

Btw anyone done through round 2 of CTR or got an offer? Just curious lol

[autumn lynx]

vmware ever gonna get back after getting 100% on my OA?

[flint halo]

@tiny wedge if your offer is still there maybe you could switch into another team after 6mo? since they bill it as a rotational program

[zinc bramble]

@autumn lynx vmware told us they might start interviewing again in the spring

[visual lagoon]

^

[zinc bramble]

even if you pass the interview you only have a 23% chance of getting an offer lmfao

[visual lagoon]

where did you get that number

[zinc bramble]

made a survey and sent it to everyone who passed

[visual lagoon]

survey from where?

[tired bay]

On the second wave yeah numbers not good

[zinc bramble]

only 6 ppl have gotten offers out of 26 people who responded

[flint halo]

nick didn’t bcc people

so everyone who interviewed has everyone else’s email for their month

(September/October)

[tired bay]

We had like 5-8 offers reported here for first round and hella people on sidelines from September

Like 42 passed September so they saying we want 100 is a total lie 🤣

[zinc bramble]

yep

[tired bay]

Gonna be lucky to get to 50 at this pace

[visual lagoon]

[tiny wedge]

vmware pipeline clogged

[autumn lynx]

@autumn lynx vmware told us they might start interviewing again in the spring
@zinc bramble hopefully 🙏

[visual lagoon]

I hope you are doing well. I know we have spoken about potential events in October and November but after speaking with my leadership team we will not be able to hold another hiring event until the spring season. I understand you may have other offers or deadlines and I appreciate the time you have put into this process. If you decide to take something else or do not want to be continue forward with this role please email.

I will reach back out to you when I know more about our spring hiring events.

@autumn lynx its from Nick

[tiny wedge]

anyone got any tips for roblox hiring manager/bar raiser? ive heard theres pretty high variability in them

[ebon belfry]

@autumn lynx tbh at this point i would not rely at all on vmware

i am in team matching phase and have calculated a 5% chance

[tired bay]

I was in team matching phase for 6 weeks signed elsewhere

[ebon belfry]

wat a joke

[tiny wedge]

cyberpunk 2077 or @ebon belfry team match. which comes first?

[flint halo]

ig since google isn’t hiring new grads, VMware had to pick up maintenance for host matching hell

[buoyant ruin]

I just got 30/30 on Amazon's OA2 and now the imposter syndrome is settling in

help

[grave gull]

i thought amzn is done?

[buoyant ruin]

I've really stretched out my assessments. taken them to the 5th day everytime

[real root]

very subtle flex

[buoyant ruin]

No dude. I'm absolutely freaked out

The problems were both like leet code easy

[real root]

be happy dude

[buoyant ruin]

I'm gonna get exposed hard

[ebon belfry]

i got 30/30 and got rej

lol

[buoyant ruin]

Does anyone know the process the interviewers go through to pick the technical questions?

[ebon belfry]

amazon random hiring bar

[buoyant ruin]

oof

[autumn lynx]

doesn't matter anyways @buoyant ruin the waitlist started. if you get final you're most likely gonna get waitlisted

[buoyant ruin]

Hell yeah

[warped ledge]

Does anyone know the process the interviewers go through to pick the technical questions?
@buoyant ruin Math.Random

[buoyant ruin]

Fun

[ornate charm]

Did Microsoft send this to anyone else??

[atomic pivot]

No still ghosted after referral

Damn near 2 months

[silver owl]

i have never in my life had microsoft acknowledge me

[atomic pivot]

my explore intern app from freshman year is still "routed to recruiter"

[sweet vigil]

What about people who haven’t even got the Amazon OA yet 🙄 what kinda expectations should we set

Despite applying August week 1

[silver owl]

yeah i applied early af too

and got my OA a week and a half ago

i was kinda malding cuz they seemed to hire everyone with a pulse out of my school

[wild otter]

bonus is you can apply to regular swe jobs at amazon 6 months from august @sweet vigil

[sweet vigil]

bonus is you can apply to regular swe jobs at amazon 6 months from august @sweet vigil
@wild otter they mostly require a 2 year work exp tho

[wild otter]

that's true, it is somewhat flexible on experience for most job postings... and if it makes you feel better I got my OA, did better than last year, and didn't move to final like I did last year.

this is basically a new grad swe, right? am i missing something? such a weird job title that its kind of off-putting.
https://careers.vmware.com/new-graduates/jobs/R2010634?lang=en-us

[sly saffron]

@H

Does anyone know the process the interviewers go through to pick the technical questions?
@buoyant ruin Many companies like Google have their own question bank. But interviewers are free to pick any problem they like.

[stone junco]

Did anybody have the onsite for embedded swe with Nuro?

[buoyant ruin]

I just sent a text to a CS manager I know at Amazon and he told me that he got an email today asking to schedule more interview assessors, verifiers, etc.
He says that usually they stop interviewing when they start waitlisting so idk

[primal summit]

everyone who interviewed last week seems to be waitlisted

[shadow cedar]

No still ghosted after referral
@atomic pivot same, ghosted w/ referral

[magic sable]

Has anyone interviewed for Blend?

[silver owl]

I drank their beer once when I visited

[honest ruin]

anyone gone through capital one powerday for product?

[broken cloak]

did anyone successfully negotiate their offer for doordash or is it strictly non-negotiable

[radiant shore]

anyone know how many phone interviews and onsite interviews for citadel swe?

[vital granite]

I saw someone say google isn't hiring new grads. yes and no.

last I checked with my recruiter (since I got to skip all the way to the final rounds of interviewing) there would not be any updates on it until closer to January.

I'll try to touch base with the recruiter about it sometime later this week to see if things have changed. The last time I got in touch with her was a month ago.

In any which case if for some reason you still don't have a job by December keep studying as they may open up applications beginning of next year, but given current job prospects... well don't rely on it unless you are a god tech skill wise.

[subtle cliff]

has anyone had the hiring manager interview with palantir?

[rocky spoke]

is that the one after onsite?

[subtle cliff]

yeahh

[high thunder]

20 shares of Amazon.com

lol

[old kestrel]

lol
@high thunder
How is that funny

[high thunder]

because most people say $n of stock

and it's amusing that it's only 20 shares because amzn is so expensive

[old kestrel]

Yea

[high thunder]

humblechuckle

[old kestrel]

Sometimes they might present it as shares

On offer

If strike isn’t known or something

[high thunder]

strike is typically determined at start date?

[old kestrel]

I think so

[vagrant belfry]

What's the vest schedule? Like 5/5/40/40

[old kestrel]

For amazon something like that

[high thunder]

15/25 ..

previous #new_grad_salary_sharing posts showed it

[digital carbon]

What's the vest schedule? Like 5/5/40/40
@vagrant belfry 5/15/40/40

[vagrant belfry]

Lol can't do math

I'm an idiot

[keen remnant]

if you leave a company and then come back later on, do you get rsus again?

more generally, would you be eligible for the new hire comp package like huge sign on bonus etc

[peak dirge]

Did anyone get an email from Kleiner Perkins asking for an interview for their new grads? I got a notification they viewed my LinkedIn profile last week.

[feral marten]

You can only use this command in #2021_grad_process or #2021_intern_process

[tidal hazel]

anyone get an email from amazon saying their application was incomplete, even tho Id already been rejected last month after OAs?

[ornate charm]

Nuro just cancelled my friend’s final round due to head count lol what the fuck

[grave gull]

throwback to lyft internships last year

[ornate charm]

It was in 3 days too lol

[grave gull]

lyft was cancelling with < 24 hours

[silver owl]

Nuro just cancelled my friend’s final round due to head count lol what the fuck
@ornate charm AV or infra team? i got shafted cuz of headcount too but after the final round

[ebon belfry]

anyone here do american express hirevue??

i got the inv after codility but dont know what to expect

[cursive loom]

Bro nuro fuck

[fervent berry]

If your offer package is already p high are you too much of a dumbo if you accept without negotiating?

[old kestrel]

no

[radiant shore]

If your offer package is already p high are you too much of a dumbo if you accept without negotiating?
@fervent berry consider the other way that u might be a dumbo for negotiating tho

[lucid schooner]

has anyone done an interview with karat

like a karat interview for a different company

if so, can you describe what the process is like

[peak gulch]

Why is literally every consulting company I have applied to asking me to lie on my resume after training to make it i have 4-5 years of experience? that is so scammy

[unkempt echo]

nuro pulled some peoples offers due to headcount well before the actual deadline on there

[unkempt echo]

they took 15 ppl

[silver owl]

bruh wtf

i'm still salty

about nuro

i spent like 6 hours interviewing

[grave gull]

only 15

[silver owl]

they said i got good feedback too

i felt awesome about my interviews

tbf i really enjoyed it and i learned a lot

[arctic drift]

Tbf if you think about it

say you have 2 hours of interviews

[silver owl]

like not in a koolaid drinking way but like

[arctic drift]

that's two hours deciding whether or not you get 150k (or some other number)

[silver owl]

actual useful technical things

[unkempt echo]

it seems like they interviewed too many people and ran into a supply issue at the top

personally my nuro interview process was my favorite

[arctic drift]

like choosing a number of hours to interview someone is kinda hard

[grave gull]

thought they were gonna hire more

[cerulean pivot]

their oa was too esay lol

[silver owl]

they never asked me a single leetcode

during all 6 hours

[unkempt echo]

wat

[grave gull]

wait

wat

my misery never ends

[arctic drift]

What happened now

[grave gull]

@unkempt echo

tell me

did i get fucked

or did i get fucked

😦

[unkempt echo]

i only had one non leetcode question from nuro out of technicals lol

and it was the hard ass systems round

[grave gull]

hiru answer my question

i wanna knnow

😦

[unkempt echo]

wat question

[cerulean pivot]

Michael has 4 apples, his train is 7 minutes early. Calculate the mass of the sun.

[unkempt echo]

blue

[sharp lichen]

tiny rant

i feel strung along

roblox said theyll get back to me asap

and then several days later will get back to me end of day

👻

[cerulean pivot]

thats annoying lol

[worthy spear]

Hey everyone! what is the Bloomberg round #1 like in terms of number of problems, and difficulty level?

[sharp lichen]

i really do need to hear back today T_T T_T T_T

[spice belfry]

Hey everyone! what is the Bloomberg round #1 like in terms of number of problems, and difficulty level?
@worthy spear phone screen? I got one lc med

[tall nebula]

yeah some of us got coding questions in the final round, but others got completely behavioral

[arctic drift]

@arctic drift whats wrong with that
@sinful meadow there's nothing wrong with it from our standpoint but think of it as a company right

I guess but then those two hours have to basically be flawless

because otherwise how do you cut people out

I feel like you can make small mistakes fwiw but I might be wrong

Also as a company you don't really care about false negatives

because there's so many talented candidates already applying

you're basically trying to choose from the cream of the crop

I'm not saying that I agree with this for the record

but from a company standpoint I think I understand why

yeah but 50% of 5k is still 2500 to go thorugh

through*

I was reading something about cut rates and basically at every step it's ~50%? -- don't remember which company

OA -> Phone -> whatever

[grave gull]

databricks literally asked a well known leetcode medium

for their phone screen

idk how you screen ppl like that

[arctic drift]

Not all companies resume screen right before

And I mean people still fail that LMFAO

never overestimate people

I don't think Amazon really did last year besides international students

Might be wrong but everyone I know got OA last year

[flint halo]

only amazon has the ability to not screen like that

intern class size is way smaller outside of big N

[arctic drift]

Also I got a decent amount of first rounds this year and I have like no internships lol

[grave gull]

i have never heard back from amzn

plz stop flexing on me

[flint halo]

too goated for amazon

[arctic drift]

Like I'm not trying to

uh

justify

them

for the record

I'm just trying to say that I think where it comes from?

[devout bobcat]

I have like no internships as well

[arctic drift]

Oh you mean 2 hours of onsite vs 5 hours of onsite?

I agree with that

I thought you meant like 2 hours of ALL interviewing

and I was like ???

LOL

ok nvm forget everything I've ever said

[flint halo]

tbh some companies do interview like that for interns

i did two 30 min screens for a company once

[arctic drift]

but yeah I think 2-3 hours of onsite is fine

5 hours is uh

idk how you're alive after that

[silver owl]

after every onsite my day is over

[arctic drift]

lots of monster

[silver owl]

i literally just take a nap

[flint halo]

asana

[silver owl]

and call it a day

[vital granite]

one day we will have interview rounds for interview rounds for another interview round for the final round.

[arctic drift]

ok yeah never mind lOOOOL

5 hours of onsite is a waste of time and effor

t

[grave gull]

nuro's onsite isn't 6 hour though?

it's 4 rounds

[silver owl]

it was pretty close to 6 hours total before i got rejected

[high thunder]

f

[vital granite]

f

[ebon belfry]

f

[grave gull]

ah yeah total is like 6 hours

cuz there's hm round and recuiter call

rip

[old kestrel]

two sigma is 6 hours

[high thunder]

hrt was like 7.5

[grave gull]

yall crazy

idk how you do this

[high thunder]

caffeine

[bronze canopy]

That’s a third of a sigma per hour

[high thunder]

quick maths

[uneven pasture]

at least for two sigma u can skip the last 3 hours if you fail the first 3 hours of tech

[arctic drift]

you can skip all 6 hours if you don't even get to onsite

[unkempt echo]

do y'all prefer virtual onsites or real onsites

flexibility + comfort vs free food/travel + actually meeting ppl/office

[grave gull]

i prefer virtual

[primal summit]

i preferred virtual for the actual interview

[arctic drift]

I miss getting flown out + free food

[primal summit]

far less stress

[arctic drift]

But I like waking up whenever the hell I want

[grave gull]

you can fit in more interviews

[arctic drift]

and not having to get to the place

[unkempt echo]

i miss getting flown out but virtual is actually so convenient

[copper fractal]

Real>

[grave gull]

flying to nyc from cali takes so long

[unkempt echo]

yeah losing 3 hours sucks

flying in general is such an ordeal

[mystic mica]

i miss getting flown out but virtual is actually so convenient
@unkempt echo yeah only benefit was I took uber blacks and splurged on good food lol

[grave gull]

sorry nyc - cal is like

6

👀

[mystic mica]

just hit em with the receipts and enjoy the free trip

[unkempt echo]

i spend more time in a car for transportation to/from the airpot than the actual flight

when i go south to north

[mystic mica]

that's why u gotta uber black

I had the option to go uber copter for one of my interviews

[unkempt echo]

uber black XL lux plus

[mystic mica]

but I low key didn't think they would reimburse that much

I flew out from JFK so it woulda been perfect

[grave gull]

i went over msft's reimbursement limit lol

they still pay

[high thunder]

lol

yea

[grave gull]

:party:

[high thunder]

for my msft interview i had fogo de chao for dinner

[unkempt echo]

msft has the best onsite

[grave gull]

wait SAME

i ate fogo

and japonessa

LOL

[high thunder]

lol

[copper fractal]

Idek what that is 😂

[high thunder]

japonessa is pretty good

very expensive tho

[cerulean pivot]

i had CHIPOTLE

[grave gull]

i pooled money with other people who were interviewing

that was a fat bill

[high thunder]

lol bet

[cerulean pivot]

very exotic

[grave gull]

🤑

[high thunder]

blazing bagels ❤️

[arctic drift]

o yeah I had japonessa

lmfao

and lots of uber blacks

[grave gull]

i got a car rental

and i expensed ubers

LOL

i stayed an extra day

[high thunder]

yea

[arctic drift]

yeah I stayed an extra day and hung out with friends in the area

it was lowk nice as hell

but then I got sick omw back xd

[high thunder]

i hjad no friends so i had the fancy dinner myself

[autumn lynx]

Bruh I never even got to experience a real on-site

Everything has been virtual

Even last year

[cursive loom]

same

[high thunder]

🙃

[sharp lichen]

roblox response is thursday/friday

[north kiln]

Onsites was like my favorite part of recruiting, got to go on my first plane ride ever thanks to them. I will miss it:(

[tall nebula]

@sharp lichen is this for everyone or for you?

[sharp lichen]

for me

[tall nebula]

oh damn, so that's the earliest they can reply by?

[sharp lichen]

yea. unfortunate

[tall nebula]

😦 don't you have an offer deadline today?

[sharp lichen]

yea

im trying to work some magic 😉

[tall nebula]

😮 glgl, hope it all works out!!

[sharp lichen]

ty ❤️

[tiny wedge]

🙏 4 yello

[iron gate]

roblox response is thursday/friday
@sharp lichen dang did roblox tell you this? I'm hoping they can reach back to me too this week cause of deadlines also

[sharp lichen]

yea. dunno if it applies to others as well :/

[iron gate]

when's your deadline? mine is next wednesday so i'm hoping they'll get back to me real soon

[iron gate]

also has anyone done the appian onsite interview for this year yet? got my interview for that tomorrow

[ocean geode]

Anyone ever pass a phone interview when you ran out of time to finish the problem

[languid orbit]

Me

Oh wait I failed

[vital granite]

mmmm

like rarely with a couple of interviews if it was the first round

any fuck up after the first round can mess you up

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"I have" post
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way to give me bad luck in interviews

[cursive loom]

oof

[tranquil relic]

its cause i didnt read the "phone" part of the question :/ didnt wanna misinform

[vital granite]

alright cool

[tranquil relic]

and since i just sent it i figured id just delete T_T

[vital granite]

i getcha

fair

the timing was just so good though

I have an interview tomorrow bro, you can't jinx me

[proper lily]

with whom

[tranquil relic]

dw im back to send good interview energy

[proper lily]

good luck 😄

[inner rose]

Do people write cover letters or nah?

[proper lily]

nah I don’t

[vital granite]

Ibm, it was kinda last second last week but a recruiter got in touch with me to set up times

[proper lily]

resume should speak for itself if you’re good

if not then yea

[vital granite]

I have only ever been recommended to make a cover letter by like one recruiter

out of dozens

[inner rose]

Yeah that’s how I feel but I still barely get responses

[vital granite]

so prob not important

[inner rose]

And I think my resume is decent

[vital granite]

for like less tech oriented companies, it might help

[ocean geode]

What role for ibm @vital granite

[proper lily]

I wouldnt recommend IBM

[vital granite]

back-end. I thought I was actually rejected but the recruiter explained that most of their postings puts you in some kind of bank and when a department likes what they see they you get a more specific req number

[proper lily]

heard bad things from there

[vital granite]

oh I already accepted a job lol

just I have interviews set up and I figure might as well get the experience

[tranquil relic]

also, during these times any job > no job

[vital granite]

my first interviews this semester were garbage but my later behavioral and technical interviews went swimmingly

[tranquil relic]

and just in general

[vital granite]

and yeah good point bryan

[marble pond]

if they take cover letters id send em

u can have templates u modify slightly anywaays

[vital granite]

btw Liberty Mutual has their new grad 2021 job posting up again on their site, if anyone is interested.

[proper lily]

yeah thats true

ibm is still good too

[vital granite]

you most likely will be fast forwarded in the process if they like you, they want to complete their hiring soon

weird because the job doesn't start till June but fuck it whatever I figure they really want onboarding and orientation to be in person so they have a later start date

[proper lily]

yeah omg my onboarding will be completely online 😩

I wish it weren’t

[vital granite]

I'm more of an in-person worker. I've adapted well with virtual but I really do hope covid isn't as serious by summer (it probably will with how the public has been acting LOL)

if it's still virtual by then, I won't complain because it means I get to stay where I'm at with only 200 rent lol

[proper lily]

yeah for sure

I’m guessing you guys are all us based?

[vital granite]

I am

I live in a really cheap area of the US

[proper lily]

how’s the whole virus going over there? people going back in the office?

ah lcol

[vital granite]

lol NO

US has dropped the ball insanely

with response

[proper lily]

well yeah but maybe it’s overexaggeted in the media so idk

[vital granite]

like I'm betting covid might calm down by summer, for other countries, but the US will still be stuck in recovery phase

maybe for some parts of the US

but I was in area where it got really bad

and it's fucking true

[proper lily]

and tbh maybe a vaccine will come out by then? wouldn’t hold my breath but it’s possible

[vital granite]

not just the administration actions but honestly the public can be really fucking dumb at times

[proper lily]

hahaahhaha like everywhere else but

[vital granite]

good chance its a late 2021 thing and then you have the process of creating enough for everyone so it won't actually be an immediate thing

[proper lily]

ibm would be great in a lcol area then

probs pay real competitive

[vital granite]

they pay well for sure

Liberty Mutual isn't super competitive for pay but they have some nice benefits plus the location is actually next to most of my best friends so that's actually incredibly lucky

[proper lily]

mmm yeah so I have a question for you guys

do you start college half way through the year

in like june or smth?

because on linkedin I always see June

[vital granite]

depends on the way a college runs their courses

[proper lily]

why not start in January or earlier?

[vital granite]

I'm a two semester system

but some schools have a 3 semester system

[proper lily]

trimester

[vital granite]

yeah yeah that

[proper lily]

I have one it’s terrible 🤦‍♂️

[vital granite]

anyways June huh

I actually don't know...

your school is in a trimester system?

I hear that's better for learning actually

[proper lily]

yes most schools in sydney are semester

we used to be semesters then we switched last year

a lot of students are still bitter about it

[vital granite]

damn less break is lame for sure even if it is technically more beneficial though it makes planning internships a bitch

[proper lily]

yeah for sure my internship gets in the way of my final exams which is annoying

start a week before my exams

so yeah and also they crammed the same content from 13 weeks to 10

with no midsem break

[vital granite]

rip

anyways as for june start dates I don't know many people who do that. it must be a trimester thing. For me I held off one semester before starting college so it may have been something like that for other college students.

not that uncommon to take a break between highschool and college

[proper lily]

ok I see and you finish highschool at the end of the year correct?

if so that makes sense

take a couple extra months of break

[vital granite]

nah for me at least highschool ends during spring to summer (may)

for trimester bois it's probably different

I at least had a summer in between but decided to take a longer break to do some retail work

for trimester folks they prob figured they deserved a "summer" break before starting college

[proper lily]

yeah I see wait end school in may?? so the final year of high school in the us is half?

[blissful adder]

nah we start in aug/sept and end in apr/may

[nova creek]

Has anyone given Oracle OCI virtual onsite ?

[latent cipher]

@nova creek i just did today!

[turbid lintel]

What are the differences between SWE and Application Engineer at Google?

[hallow heath]

Has anyone given phone screen for front end role at Oracle?

[blissful adder]

^why would they care if you like them

theyd be like damn glad we recruited them

[languid orbit]

Lmao it's not a girl

It's okay to simp

[blissful adder]

^^^

@eager glacier its okay to like things

[autumn monolith]

@eager glacier I can gurantee you the recruiter will be happy to see you accepted ASAP. I was rejected from my internship before they called me back 2 months later. I signed within an hour, and my recruiter told me multiple times how she was grateful i accepted quickly

[brave kettle]

for people that received bloomberg offers of 155k+ with signing bonuses, were those numbers post-negotiation?

[white monolith]

Has anybody applied to Pinterest and heard back?

[sweet vigil]

Does Liberty Mutual take international students?

[autumn lynx]

Has anybody applied to Pinterest and heard back?
@white monolith nah

[north kiln]

Has anybody applied to Pinterest and heard back?
@yoojin.oh#5240 I got their karat a couple weeks ago

[royal heron]

Does anyone know about Oracle’s culture?

I heard that it does a lot of layoffs. Is it true?

[winged totem]

How’s everyone’s job search going?

[vapid river]

Uber lyft laid off all those ppl to fund prop 22

[vital granite]

@vapid river WAIT what!? laid off new hires or who exactly?

As you would any offer. Just be grateful they gave you the opportunity and time to talk about your experiences and showcase your skills and then say that after much deliberation that you have accepted an offer that most fits your current career aspirations

just be courteous

[dire swallow]

how reasonable is it to ask for a start date 2 months after classes end?

also, is it worth moving to santa clara without knowing anyone there vs. working remote in canada but with canadian pay

[dire swallow]

that's awesome, thanks!

[main verge]

Does anyone here know details about the conversion from Google intern to FTE?

[uneven pasture]

You need to pass Hiring Committee and re-interview to get an offer as FTE

Though I think the process is a little easier if you interned

[vital granite]

the process is easier

at the very least you go straight to final rounds

you may also do less interviews in the final rounds depending on how well of work you did as an intern

if you did godly work you actually may just convert with little hassle

still like my mentors said at the time, study study study

[main verge]

Thanks for the replies, how badly do you need to do in the follow-up interviews for them not to consider you? Or is that something noone knows except hiring committee?

Would you be rejected if you got hire/strong hires for the internship but something like lenient no hire for interviews?

[spiral glade]

The exit interviews matter a lot AFAIK
A friend is mine had a great rapport with the manager and did his work well
(got feedback from both his manager and his mentor)
Didn't do great on the interview
Didn't get a return offer

[main verge]

ah that's a shame 😦 I guess I need to keep practicing

The recruiter told me that interns can interview as soon as they're done with the internship or they can do it after a while (I'm guessing with the other applicants). Do you think there is any disadvantage in practicing a bit more and doing the interviews a bit later? or is it always better to do them early?

[hard bluff]

Is this server only for US based roles?

[marble pond]

Not explicitly, but if you look at the reported salaries etc, a majority of the users seem to be looking at US roles

[pliant orchid]

What is your opinion on starting interview process with other companies after signing an offer? I want to be done lmao but I have been reached out by Oracle and Amazon

[marble pond]

Don't have regrets. If you work at your current place and don't like it, will you say "damn I wish I kept interviewing"? If so I'd keep going and see what happens

If you think you'll be fine even if your current place doesn't work out, then I'd be okay just being done

[blissful adder]

for people that received bloomberg offers of 155k+ with signing bonuses, were those numbers post-negotiation?
@brave kettle gonna echo this question

[digital carbon]

for people that received bloomberg offers of 155k+ with signing bonuses, were those numbers post-negotiation?
@brave kettle at least for me, yes it was post negotiation

BB gave one-time interns 142k base + 18k bonus and two-time interns got 150k base + 20k bonus, no signon bonus for either. So 155k+ base and signon would both most likely be from negotiation. Maybe for masters students they might offer a bit higher but idk for sure if they do

[haughty heath]

Anyone here done Bloomberg London system design stage ?

[honest ruin]

is it bad to ask the same questions for a multi-interviewer onsite

[vital granite]

depends

like asking them what they are working on that they love is not bad to repeat i imagine

[vocal carbon]

Wait it's full now? Should I not bother with my phone tomorrow lol

[undone abyss]

anyone hear back from bny new grad after finishing the oa?

[high thunder]

sure why not

[ember scaffold]

@worthy spear thank you, that makes me feel better!!

[sharp lichen]

@main verge i don't have statistics, but a good percentage of people I know were able to convert.

I would do conversion interviews after the internship so you can focus on them

[noble crag]

Cloudlfare really out here ghosting after giving take-home assignments

[zinc bramble]

did anyone else just get an email from vmware about QA and Security engineering positions

[latent cipher]

@zinc bramble yeah. there was one swe role in Boston it looks like

[zinc bramble]

yea

i emailed him asking if they’re still looking at regular swe roles in palo alto and he said yes

[tiny wedge]

lol they really out here with probably 60+ candidates and 3 positions

[latent cipher]

they must have severely overestimated headcount

[cerulean pivot]

their recruiting process has definitely been poor this year

[tiny wedge]

didnt they do a questionnaire sometime during the interview process with language/role preferences?

[copper fractal]

How long did it take people to hear back after Amazon final

[crimson shale]

one day

[copper fractal]

Okay ty

[devout bobcat]

lately it's been like a week though

[vocal carbon]

For bloomberg do you have to do the interview in the language you mentioned in your app?

[twin trench]

no, it's a hackerrank so you can just choose any language there

[vocal carbon]

cool thanks!

[digital carbon]

but they probably choose an interviewer who understands the language you'll be interviewing in

otherwise why would they ask your preferred language

[marble scarab]

has anyone actually been asked a systems design question for bloomberg? or is that a myth

just wondering

[twin trench]

i dunno but from my interviews they let me select the language

[digital carbon]

yea it might not actually be a problem, esp if you choose to interview in a mainstream language

[vocal carbon]

Can I use the language we compile in compilers class

[digital carbon]

@marble scarab people have gotten systems design

[copper fractal]

Yeah I got sys for BB but it's more like OOP

[patent cloak]

I’ve heard of people getting actual system design

[austere wolf]

Can anyone put me in contact with a Microsoft recruiter?

[azure gull]

Has anyone done Ibm devops engineer interview? What kind of questions do they ask??

[undone abyss]

they asked 2-3 questions for mine @azure gull. One of them was with dockers

[hybrid plover]

Has anyone been asked by a recruiter to share their I20 ??

[vocal carbon]

before or after offer?

[hybrid plover]

before OA

[vocal carbon]

ive seen FB ask for DS2019 before/after first interview

for internships from canadian uni

i believe mostly to filter out people who would need h1b straight off the bat

[hybrid plover]

Is it safe to share?

[vocal carbon]

Probs? Kinda sketchy tho

[remote gazelle]

for people who got an offer, im genuinely curious what do you do from now until your start date. Chill? lol. the grind seems like its gonna last until spring

[hybrid plover]

@vocal carbon It has Sevis and Omb numbers. Not sure if that can cause issues

[vocal carbon]

Ya honestly unless it's some vv well known company wont even consider it

looool good luck

[cerulean pivot]

@quick burrow have u made a decision yet?

for where ur going

what are u looking for?

[arctic drift]

"Roblox is like minecraft on crack"

[cerulean pivot]

oh u got the afrfirm details