#2021_grads
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this guy got:
nope we cant do internship anymore
he was like ok how about we do fall or something?
them: sure if you apply them we will look out for your resume
lolllllll
burn
Does anyone know what the hell is HRT and Jane street looking for in a resume????
I have been ghosted by them since long
does* (not is)
lol i got a hrt coding challenge once, got 100% still got resume screened
Thoughts on amazon vs Bloomberg?
Bb Nyc, amazon Seattle
and I havent started
bb nyc
nyc is a great city
I have got a full time offer for a company in seattle
and I'm not super happy about it
seattle weather is kinda gloomy
isnt seattle supposedly trash for social life
seattle is crappp for social life
Since we start mid/late next year, probably still a lot of stuff canceled due to covid.
dude i have to write a 5 min paragraph, have been procrastinating for so long now
NYC has some seriously low prices for housing right now. My apartment is offering luxury studios for $2k/mo right now with 2 months free
like - seattle< sfo< chicago ~ austin < nyc
and now it's 4 am and i dont wanna do it
It’s a great time to get an apartment
I need to do ducking transfer learning in 1 hour
I wouldn't start till August
I have faith that the US will continue to duck up
I just want to be in a state that is never cold lol
ya it's due at 5 so I think i'll do it in a bit lol
lol
go to florida then
@worthy spear
ok bye everyone. need to start working on my ducking homework
58 minutes remaining on gradescope. fml.
gl
Is it worth giving up Amazon clout to live in nyc 🤔
anyone interview with oracle?
i swear the only people ik who liked seattle are the ones who never leave home anyway
interesting. most people like seattle because they like nature
easily one of the prettiest places in the country
ahh yes that too, sry I forgot
people who never leave home and people who love nature seem pretty mutually exclusive
lool maybe seattle is the place to be then
idk how much clout amazon gets you either. I've got it on mine and I'm still getting resume rejected everywhere
does anyone have a "Routed to Recruiter" status with Microsoft, since a month now..and has received no follow up on the same?
^yep
^^ same : ' )
Is it worth giving up Amazon clout to live in nyc 🤔
@tawdry herald it's not like BB doesn't have clout, it's not gonna close doors for you
well amazon has clout, but idk if that should really be a factor when comparing to BB lol
i would look at WLB too, amazon has negative clout there. idk about BB
Tbh I'm willing to suffer worse wlb if it'd make easier to switch to a better company later
Lol what
soup > bananas
which on
one
theres 3
bloomberg only has 2 soup stations
3 > 2
QED
banana soup >
nah, that's too innovative for bloomberg. Once you start doing that kinda stuff, Citadel gonna poach you
isnt that accounted for in clout?
@autumn lynx the truth is all this "clout" is artificially created by college students. if you ask someone who has some experience in industry whether BB or Amazon has more clout, they'll just be like "who cares, both have solid engineers who are solving interesting and difficult problems"
i think clout is a meme, but jumping between companies is a valid concern. The types of problems you'll encounter at BB are different from what you'll see at amazon
Amazon is likely easier into other traditional tech, while BB is likely better for fintch
theres a reason doordash loves poaching uber employees
yea agreed
it's very doable to move into tech tech from BB too though. I believe a large part of the google nyc office is ex-BB because it's the easiest place to poach cpp devs from
For BB final/onsite, does anyone know if you have 2 or just 1 interviewer per tech round?
@eager glacier Haha youre right, I'm prob stressing too much
@fleet niche usually just 1 interviewer unless someone is shadowing or something i think, but everyone i've talked to only had 1
go get some rest and gl 🙂
For BB final/onsite, does anyone know if you have 2 or just 1 interviewer per tech round?
@fleet niche i had 1 interviewer per round
has anyone done Amazon OA3 recently? For the last module, did you say the bug was a fluke?
what bug was it again?
it asked you to look at the request logs
but there was a case where that wasn't true
930...711
it had an imbalance, but it wasn't reported as an error :/
did you get follow-ups after making that selection? my thing just abruptly ended after I said it was a fluke @rain rose
don't remember
ah okay
have you heard back yet?
I JUST finished it
lmao
someone confirm there were no follow-up questions after you identified the issue 😫
oh i think it was because there were more reviews than stars right?
or something
nah nothing after that
im p sure
relax
yeah i got the final email yesterday
is it the 30min one?
yeah the 30 min
nice, you're set
nice!! you basically have an offer
how did you do on the other oa's?
nah nah i dont believe in that voodoo shi
shit
i had 30 min last year for internship and i got rejected
i did 3/7 on debugging everything on coding
oh really, thought it was just a behaviorial
im just gonna be safe and do a bunch of amazon leetcode problems
plus review my OA and LP
that sounds like a good plan
yea i also heard back 5 days after taking OA 3 so look out for something next week hopefully
did a recruiter reach out or was it an automated email?
how long does Amazon give to accept an offer?
Internship is different they only do 30 minute interviews getting the 30 minute for new grad is def a leg up but yeah nothing guaranteed
it was automated but it "came" from a recruiter
oh yea if your 30 minute rejection was for intern thats way different
Offer for Amazon I think they just transitioned to Dec. 1st deadlines I got my offer beginning October was given till Nov. 1st to accept
wouldn't full time be harder lol
also p sure they can do whatever they want in an interview
The 30 minute is expected to be go over OA2 but yeah I’m sure curveballs can happen
are u sure? i feel like thats the exception to people getting a LC problem
like no way they hire everyone off of reviewing OA2
Some like me get 3 hour interview
howd you do on the OA?
Getting 30 minute is like you are in top percentage of OAs so u get advantage so would def try to remember what u did on OA2 and brush up on some LC
Like 2.5/7 Like 75% test cases not that great
i've heard mixed about amazon final
i had lc last year
my friend had debug some java code and he forgot java lmao
For new grad?
i've read about debugging your own OA though too
nah sorry i meant intern
i thought he was talking about his last year intern
oh word just read more
Lol we sorta were np
my b
hm i guess yea that makes sense. guess it doesn't hurt to overprepare tho
Yeah intern different cause they just give everyone same time interview new grad is 2 separate categories coming out of OAs
No yeah def overprepare just make sure OA2 is part of preparation
is amazon hiring bar higher this year
or for new grad
i know they change their process a bit every year
I think they hire a lot every year
OA2 had a harder test bank imo but still plenty of offers going out
there's not really a good way for us to compare between years unless you interviewed both times
true
i think my OA1 was harder this year
OA1 was exponentially harder than last year 🤣
oh yeah
fs
i was taking it chill
and got fucked
has anyone gotten rejected after the 30 min interview?
it's possible, but the only way you get rejected is if you clearly cheated on your OA3 or you say something blatantly offensive
a bar raiser told me that the 30 min calls are typically designed for them to sell you on the company because at that point you already have the offer
what happens if you forgot your implementation for OA2 lol
you don't need to remember it, you should be able to read and understand what you did though
@autumn lynx he didn't give me my solution
and didn't give me the question until 3 minutes of me trying to remember what it was
he still seemed pretty chill about it tho
oh what lol. he asked you if you remember what questions you had?
yea
u end up getting the offer?
anyone have bloomberg new grad phone interview yet?
yes @autumn lynx
@tepid sky I have
anyone have any good refresher SQL resources that are good for cramming in a day?
hackerrank has a decent set of problems that you can practice
someone from neeva viewed my linkedin so it might not be a waste doing the damn take home OA
lets see
can you know who/which company viewed your profile from free linkedin account?
Only if they don't have private viewing on I think
I just got a text from some number saying "Hi, my name is Sid Golliher and I'm a software engineer at L3Harris Technologies. Would you have time tomorrow to do a phone screen interview?"
I actually applied to L3 a while back but I was rejected..
Is this real?
Do people normally get texted like this to do phone screens?
yea I'm thinking it's like some kind of scam or something?
but why would a scammer ask to call me
Lol I mean if u put it on the application I’m sure it could happen but interesting
I've been texted once from a local company, it was weird and unexpected though
didn't imagine l3 doing that
well I guess it couldn't hurt to see if it's real
gl and be safe with it, I've been scammed by one job already this season
ty I will
Fwiw I’ve been texted by my VMware and Intuit recruiters
And it’s been perfectly fine
No scam
i did l3harris interviews and it was all scheduled through text for some reason (although it was through recruiter)
a bar raiser told me that the 30 min calls are typically designed for them to sell you on the company because at that point you already have the offer
@dark jewel lol this low key saddens me, knowing that I did well on oa1/2 and probably would have gotten the 30 min but maybe my oa3 dicked me
anyone here passed palantir onsite?
@sturdy otter I would tell him or her to reach out via email
I already spoke with him through text and scheduled a call tomorrow
but it seems like if I pass the phone screen the rest of the process will be through email
ig the phone screen portion is just really informal?
seems legit so far
Anyone gave the Google Cloud Technical Residency? Pls pm !!! Thank you.
@eager glacier mine was kinda design, though bloomberg never has u run ur code lol
i was hoping they would skip a round or two since the HR reached out
@uneven pasture i will get the link to schedule my phone round soon
how long shd i take
2 weeks?
yeah
like when to schedule your phone?
i talked to an HR today
yeah
i have been doing general leet code but not interview ready
o shit yeah definitely prepare your resume, i think most people talk about a project or some shit from there for like 20 mins or so
10-20 mins
but i was also asked to design something
like
"given this function and this business feature, how would you implement this"
can expand in pm
if possible, i could use some guidance as well
wow i texted just like when I am talking to an HR
for full time i have no idea if/when they'll fill up, but what i've seen for interviews is that there's either some design based question (can't leetcode, usually it just involves fancy map/list solutions) and then there's stuff with linkedlists/lists/arrays and stuff
yeah
last year for an internship (i failed completely) i got a circularly linked list question lmao
that was gg
who asks about a damn circularly linked list
fast pointer slow pointer
ooo
lmao
my friend was asked this!
he got full time
they ask the same questions

hopefully they arent shadowing here
@uneven pasture Can I dm you about the design round as well?
yup feel free
is it for sde or sdet
sde
is it a red flag that I completely bombed my first technical round (leetcode medium) but they still reached out for a second round?
@jaunty oyster You prob didnt bomb as bad as you thought
does anyone know if i could still get oa2 review in amazon 30 min final if i didnt pass all cases on 1 question
Sry people have probs asked a lot, but how hard is bloomberg phone?
and what's the process?
bloomberg phone is usually leetcode medium ish, 1-2 questions
process is usually 2 tech interviews + 1 engineering manager interview + 1 hr interview
Perfect, thanks!
i personally had phone before 2 tech interviews, but most people only have 2 tech interviews
i have phone too
phone is a 40-60 min tech interview
atleast thats what the email says
@vocal carbon when is your phone schedule for
are you gonna do it that soon?
ya
bigger issue is i accidentally applied to new york
instead of london lmao
gg
Has anyone interviewed with datadog?
youre no good to work in ny?
just email your recruiter
^
yeah should be fine
no i go to school in canada so it'd have to be h1b and that's a bitch lol
Did anyone interview for Oracle - Software Engineer OCI position?
Tf
Was that your only or first choice?
thats beat as hell
luckily I have alternatives but I liked the company so I'm sad it ended this way
Yeah true that for sure that’s a bad look
yeah for sure
even more reason to start reneging companies
When a company says deadline is MM/DD, is the deadline MM/DD-end of work day or the day before MM/DD?
anyone else still waiting to be scheduled for roblox?
dont think thats real
thats real ^ I didn't mean to put 1750k lol
well it's including 401k match
ez
idk about G but BB gives roughly 8k in match
so if you subtract that much, seems reasonable
oh the extra zero lmaoo
had some negotiation rounds with G and FB
did you go back and forth between them?
like get them to bid against each other lol
lol they wont bid against each other most places do 1 negotiation round and 1 only
yeah true
Yeah I went 2 rounds Google 1 round with FB
yea ik but they said "some negotiation rounds" implying multiple right
wait @warped pendant you did have an extra 0 right
my friend tried negotiating with no other offers and they went underground with communication for 4 days
he was shit scared
hahaha
Has any one interviewed with doordash?
??? lol
Yeah I went 2 rounds Google 1 round with FB
@warped pendant niceee
LOL no its 175k stock over 4 years!
can you teach us your ways
no not that, like how to negotiate that well lol
how tf do u get 175k in stocks
FB exceeds offer is 160k and I asked google to match and then beat. (long story short)
i thought like 30-50k is normal
@warped pendant the thumbnails on the videos are hilariously clickbait but I subbed lol
get that breadddd
@autumn lynx Big Tech is more than that
Love to see the support, thanks friends 🙂
Also very clickbait haha, but no ads and trying to help everyone get that bread
yup yup
@warped pendant did you decide to choose G or F?
appreaciate the exp
and what team? :0
@autumn lynx Big Tech is more than that
@tired bay not amazon right
Amazon 84k for Seattle but most given in year 3 and 4
Has anyone interviewed for Cisco New Grad SDE role?
I mean first phone for MSFT is 30
@sharp lichen I chose G because higher offer and Ill be working on Android Auto
one of the benefits is a free car too ;o (while I work for them)
yeah, its to test your code but they let everyone check them out on a monthly basis
that's dope haha
umm so did google open or something
I interned with both ^
gotcha
Has anyone interviewed for Cisco New Grad SDE role?
@normal tide think they froze hiring
@normal tide think they froze hiring
@ornate charm I just got an invite for first round of interview. so i just wanted to know lol
@ornate charm I just got an invite for first round of interview. so i just wanted to know lol
@normal tide I got for second round
Lol we probs like all did that OA in early August and got ghosted
@normal tide I got for second round
@rugged heart are you done with your first round?
Yeah i thought it was done but after 3 weeks I get another email
anyone know How long does Microsoft take to get back after 30min first round interview
anybody take The Trade Desk OA before? I can see it's on HackerRank and has the title "Set-Associative Cache Optimization" I could be dumb but as a new grad position, that is not a problem I've ever come across so I have no idea how I'm going to solve it
anybody take The Trade Desk OA before? I can see it's on HackerRank and has the title "Set-Associative Cache Optimization" I could be dumb but as a new grad position, that is not a problem I've ever come across so I have no idea how I'm going to solve it
@visual fable it sounds fancy but set-associative caches are conceptually simple
instead of a cache where you directly map memory addresses to the data they hold
you have buckets. to figure out which bucket an address belongs in, you hash it by some function. once you know the bucket, you can iterate through it to know what addresses are cached in that bucket
it's kinda like how hashmaps work
just signed my MSFT offer 🥳
@digital carbon Thanks, I"ll look more into it.
idk what exactly they'd ask you to optimize about them tho, hope it's not too bad lol
Is bloomberg first come first serve, I have to decide a date between 9th, 11th, 13th Nov
are they all the same week?
i think they give offers at the end of the week
oh
yeah that would make sense
so a little late and they might remember me better
🤔
i am grasping straws lul
Hey guys. I applied to Amazon three months ago with a referral. I haven't received any OAs yet and my application is still under consideration in the portal. Is there anything I can do?
I'd just say to wait
you can either email asp and ask for update, or you can pray
I waited about 2 months before I got OA
Who do I email?
I waited about 2 months before I got OA
@devout bobcat when did you apply?
August 17th
August 17th
@devout bobcat I'm stressed because people are getting offers and I'm just falling behind everybody even though I applied relatively early.
definitely reach out to a recruiter
download an email finder extension, go on linkedin, search amazon university recruiter, send as many as u can
Hey guys. I applied to Amazon three months ago with a referral. I haven't received any OAs yet and my application is still under consideration in the portal. Is there anything I can do?
@tranquil pebble are you an international student? because for some reason, almost all of my international friends haven't received OA yet. not sure if there is any correlation tho
@tranquil pebble are you an international student? because for some reason, almost all of my international friends haven't received OA yet. not sure if there is any correlation tho
@normal tide yeah, I am.
One of my friends, an international student as well, who is graduating this sem got an offer. So idk.
@devout bobcat I'm stressed because people are getting offers and I'm just falling behind everybody even though I applied relatively early.
@tranquil pebble I hear you on that. I got really stressed when I didn't get my OA until last week. Don't lose hope! You got this!
@tranquil pebble I hear you on that. I got really stressed when I didn't get my OA until last week. Don't lose hope! You got this!
@devout bobcat fingers crossed sir. Thank you.
@tranquil pebble I hear you on that. I got really stressed when I didn't get my OA until last week. Don't lose hope! You got this!
@devout bobcat I was wondering if I can/should apply with a new email address/changed name?
I am in the same boat. I applied on 20 August with a referral and still haven't heard back from Amazon.
I am in the same boat. I applied on 20 August with a referral and still haven't heard back from Amazon.
@modern ibex yeah man. A friend just said referral applications get scrutinized more and maybe they haven't changed the status to a rejection yet. 😂
MrVoid on Youtube haha
@warped pendant lol ive actually come across your videos by chance before...congrats on the offer
Accepted Amazon 🙌
@blissful adder woah that is really cool to me, didn't realize anyone had seen my vids randomly
since I am a very small youtuber haha. newtuber if you will, okay bad joke lol
haha i mean you are a noogler its a fair bad joke
@tranquil pebble what locations did you specify?
anyone else have 3 rounds for roblox instead of 2 for final? I got 1 hr + 30 min + 15 min instead of 1 hr + 45 min (no bar-raiser)
@tired bay congrats! now you have the honor of rejecting Nick
^ true
Lol yup 🤣🤣
people who are in the bloomberg process, did you submit a cover letter when you initially applied? just want to test my theory lol
nope
people who are in the bloomberg process, did you submit a cover letter when you initially applied? just want to test my theory lol
@spice belfry
i'm too lazy for cover letters
lol nvm then
i havent written a single cover letter this season
im pretty sure they all get tossed in a bin
@worthy spear glad to hear you're doing better 🙂
im pretty sure they all get tossed in a bin
@silver owl it might make a difference for some companies, like maybe smaller companies that get fewer applications. but in general yea idt recruiters at bigger companies have time to read them anyway
@tranquil pebble what locations did you specify?
@wild otter well I applied for the new grad position and I'm guessing it's fir Seattle but I've heard new grads being aced elsewhere as well.
@tranquil pebble was there a separate option for Greater Seattle or a single one?
Hey guys, is there a website to check if a company sponsors F-1 STEM OPT, or is there a database that contains all the companies that hire international students?
@tranquil pebble I’m asking cause where I applied on the portal it had three locations I could put as my preferences. I didn’t put the main offices in Seattle/NYC so only got my OA recently after 1 1/2 months
Lol, not sure. I just remembered I chose my state only
@wild otter well I applied for the new grad position and I'm guessing it's fir Seattle but I've heard new grads being aced elsewhere as well.
@tranquil pebble Hmm. I don't exactly remember. It's been three months, but I'm pretty sure I put Seattle as my first choice.
does anyone have remote new grad offers? : o
can u work one job in person and another remotely at different timings lol?
trynna get that citadel comp without actually working there lol
That feeling when you royally fuck up an oa 🤯
its good work
not too hard
but it depends on the prof
if they are a dick, high chance they offload everything to you and you get over worked
Being a TA is useful for your resume too
trynna get that citadel comp without actually working there lol
@tepid sky I mean you'd basically be working citadel hours if you tried working two jobs simultaneously, so I don't see how this is any better lmao
my work out was cut out lol
no teaching
just office hours
and grading
as i said, go for subjects that you know wont have a lot of work from your side, if you are looking for easy money
if you want to genuinely put in hours then go all for it
mine were prog classes
project classes are the hard ones
if its simple assignments that you gotta run and take a look at the code to grade then ez
but if its open ended assignments that need a lot of understanding of the code then prolly not
@worthy spear btw make sure that the TA position you take up actually involves teaching. I took a grading assistant position for a year and I didn't learn anything from it (although it was decent resume fodder for a while)
yeah this ^^
if you want to learn something or want to get something out of it
be a TA for a good subject
you will learn it in and out
yea like all the people who TA data structures at my school are mad smart, and being a TA reinforces their communication skills
yup yup
hmm maybe i shd apply for algo class TA next sem
will help as i go into full time job search mode
Anyone can talk about HRT's codility? I'm pretty good with python, but it seems it can only be taken in C++ or Java. fml
^I took the intern one once, was easy enough in C++ even though i usually do python too
If I'm coming down with a fever and I have bloomberg final tomorrow, would it be wise to reschedule or pull through
Pretty much no TA in my cs dept actually teaches they just grade, we’re ghetto
reschedule
I been tryna become a ta but they prioritize those with higher financial need. Have 1 year left so if i cant get it next term i’ll try research or somethin
Yeah it’s sad but i’ll take the resume fodder lol and even if not part of official job i’d help out the rascals. I enjoy helping in my classes
@devout bobcat if you can't perform at your best then there is no point giving an interview, they should be understanding hopefully
@stark otter @digital carbon
Yeah I was thinking about becoming a TA for the intro programming class or something because I think I can help students understand the foundation lol idk about object oriented....but then again I might loose my patience. So, I shouldn't go for the extremely easier classes.
@worthy spear TAing for intro to programming could be good too tbh
it is hard to explain programming to people who are new to it
@worthy spear but that makes sense for u to become TA to improve social skills, good for u plus cool to talk in interviews about those times where u were “tested” by juniors but overcame it
Y’all think i should try research if i cant get a TA position? Like i said, school prioritizes those with more financial need and i been turned down like 4 semesters for that reason. I will grad with 1 internship if all goes well
One year left
@digital carbon I've explained it to people in my upper level class who got a bit confused on an assignment
@worthy spear yea I'm saying it's a good skill if you can do that, would probably be a nice talking point for interviews
Thanks @vocal carbon! I guess I'll try to learn c++ in 3 days. lol
Oh i meant research assistant during semester not for a summer, but thanks!!! And def consider doing TA especially if u wanna improve
but best to take the subject you are bad at and TA for it
@rare scroll me too lol i've an interview next week that i really want which is gonna be in c++
my friend got really good at ML when he was TA for it
Oh shoot!
as long as you are sure about what you signing up for it should be fine
i have had a couple friends regret TA since they didnt want to work a lot but the subjects basically had open ended projects that needs a lot of understanding to grade them
TAs mostly only get teaching in labs
rarely its for the actual lectures
but again depends on the actual course
my AOS course was so huge, 3 phds each 30 + age were TAs
they basically ran the whole class the prof was retirement age
At my school TA’s have strict office hours tho so i think it would be tolerable restricting yourself to those. The cool TA’s do weekly tutoring on their own time but not because prof asks it
Except you’d need a drawing tablet for virtual setting or something
To make diagrams/etc
Speaking of which if anyone knows cheapest way to get a drawing tablet lemme know i’d like one. Not for art lul just programming stuff
Hahah damn my uni would say no
I don't mind helping before but I kind of don't want to teach a class.
@worthy spear ohh ic what you meant
yea then I guess it depends if that's something you think is worthwhile pursuing compared to other things you could do
!process microsoft reject
You can only use this command in 2021_grad_process or 2021_intern_process
someone got 1.75 mil in stocks over 4 years in google on the #new_grad_salary_sharing thread lol
i think they meant 175k
Hey! Is anyone hearing back from companies other than the FAANG? I have applied to like 40 new grad openings and haven’t received any OA/interview so far. Been 2 month since I started applying and starting to get a lil scared lol.
hey, did anyone manage to negotiate amazon new grad offer with a competing offer? I heard amazon is pretty reluctant to relax their initial offer
Is there a negotiation service where you can pay them and they help you negotiate new grad offers?
@shadow heart
In all seriousness it’s a tough year, it looks like lot of people have had to apply to double/triple that number before getting interviews or offers.
^
@radiant glen i was looking at the levels negotiation service and they say "we currently don't offer help for: promotions at your current company, new graduate offers, and acquisition offers. Although it's possible to negotiate in these situations, increase potentials is either very limited or highly specialized."
Thanks for the advice guys! Yeah the number is low but I don’t really see a lot of new grad openings. I have been applying to any of them that appeals even a little to me. I uploaded my resume on the resume channel for review, so do take a look at it and let me know if I need any changes there. Thanks!
damn whoever posted that Workiva offer is going to be living like royalty
.......................................................................
IA might be relevant if it votes for joe
Do you guys think there are some opportunities next year? Like they will be posted in January or something? Or is it done for 2021 grads
Some companies don't hire people until 2021
off the top of my head, Charles Schwab doesn't hire May 2021 graduates until January
smaller growing startups are always in a hiring mode too
Yeah
Lots of companies don't start till Spring which is kinda wack
Seems like only big N hires prior to spring semester
sadly that doesnt work very well if you graduate in december 😦

if covid was almost done i'd acc go back for one last term with friends
Same. Our school already announced that we are doing virtual graduation next semester. Sucks
yepp, sucks to start a job remotely too
assuming i get one lmao
if i dont have anything by mid dec I might just go back to one of my internship companies
Has nobody heard back from JP Morgan?
It does. We have an intern on our team (started later than I did) who onboarded remotely and I don't think the process has been great imo
i did a remote internship over the summer and am doing one semi remotely rn, definitely not a great experience. they're trying to make it better but it slowly feels more like fiverr w benefits and events
It does. We have an intern on our team (started later than I did) who onboarded remotely and I don't think the process has been great imo
@stone monolith interning rn and I concur
hard to get a reach for people
I think most tech companies are onboarding remotely until fall 2021 at earliest
Really sucks because I don't want to delay working until then lol
and you're limited to like, condensing questions into scheduled meetings cus most aren't suited for chat since you gotta share screen
Really sucks because I don't want to delay working until then lol
@uneven pasture I think most people will understand that onboarding remotely sucks for everyone
even normally onboarding is pretty involved
We have a persistent dev hangout where we can just go and ask questions. We can ask an engineer to hop in real quick, ask a question and then ✌️
dang that's nice
Yeah. An engineer on our team is always willing to step in and ask questions. Just as long as you don't ask the same question like 3 tim eslol
i've easy access to asking people stuff but it's still not the same
We're pretty big, at least from the teams I've been on. We're 16 deep, and we have 10 engineers (11 with me 👼), and two interns (not including me bc converting).
the thing they gave me is suppose to take like 1-2 weeks but it's gonna take me 3 months
for a few weeks my mentor and i were going to the office(cases were p low here for a while) and it was much easier to get stuff done
Do you work out of the product backlog or are you on your own on a project? That might make a difference
i've easy access to asking people stuff but it's still not the same
@vocal carbon yeah it's easy access, but it feels weird to just randomly hit people with a question, I feel like I never properly introduced myself to most of the team besides in the morning scrum
Do you work out of the product backlog or are you on your own on a project? That might make a difference
@stone monolith it's my 4th day, it's kind of a small project but also something the team has been wanting to do for a while
@mystic mica I agree, it's weird especially when it's a simpler question
i'm on a compiler team so that doesn't help things 
also IT is fighting me my VPN has choked out several times now and booted me off ssh and everything
Ah that's cool. I had something like that at my first internship and it was hard to get help. At my current one since I'm contributing to critical path, anyone is pretty much willing to help me because its a sprint goal

Ah that's cool. I had something like that at my first internship and it was hard to get help. At my current one since I'm contributing to critical path, anyone is pretty much willing to help me because its a sprint goal
@stone monolith oh nice! yeah, since it's remote I'm probably gonna spend extra hours tbh
i graduated already but found this internship luckily, so I wanna do well and maybe convert to ft if possible
good luck!
Would you guys take a less interesting job for a difference in pay of say 40k base
40k+? or -
40k more for less interesting
I'd take any job that pays more and has good WLB
if its less interesting then to me it seems like it'll have better wlb
it does have v good work life balance and people there are nice too
$40k is substantial. i'd go w less interesting but good wlb and more $ unless you'd be working on smth so boring that you wouldnt be learning anything bc then you're gonna have trouble going elsewhere
I'd take it and then just upskill on your free time
As long as you wait a few years before job hopping you should be fine even if the tech is boring af
When I say boring I mean boring for me as I'm not very interested in those parts
I did that over the summer and 20% of the interviews I get now reference that as why
But i kinda hated working on it as their product is very customer oriented so a lot of time was spent on the UI/UX
^work on something that motivates you to wake up in the morning for some reason...you can sellout when you need to support a family but learning and interest should be high in your priorities imo
40k is a big diff but if youre learning nd growing youll get promoted and if youre not getting promoted youll be better equipped to leave and find something better for you
i think 40k depends what the total comp is because 40->80k is very different from 100k->140k
let's say 120k vs 160k
ah both are remote from canada which is why they are backup backup backup options 😛
US companies
I messed up by doing all my internships at small US companies, so now I can't really "go back"
hmm....id say take the 120 and live somewhere relatively cheap that you like....forcing yourself into the extra 40k probably isnt worth it if you can find a good col area
if youre that much more passionaate about the work
especially if its remote
also either way. those have decent pay. and you can always change jobs down the line
youre not gonna wanna force yourself to do shit you dont like for very long
Totally agreed, but I think the company is small enough that I can switch to working on something else instead. (they have some very cool parts that's why I signed up in the first place)
got roblox final rescheduled 😎
nice!
well then ask that rcruiter
what did you get it rescheduled to?
how easy itd be to switch to a better team or proj
ooo. my deadline is tmr so im waiting to hear back after tuesdays final T_T
Yeah I'll look into that later in the term if no other jobs lol
where at?
thanks for the suggestions!
roblox
wait 160k is nutty compared to 120k, i mean $20/hr more
also just for general ref" write out your priorities then map your offers onto them...hard to juggle what you want in you r head
that's like an extra $160/day
just depends how "less interesting" your 'less interesting' is
and like whether or not that pigeonholes you into an area you dont like
anyone here take the hiring manager round for qualtrics?
or like wouldn't be able to easily switch jobs from if you go to that company
nah it's just me trying to avoid doing any UI/UX work at all lol
that's like an extra $160/day
@uneven pasture when you put it like that, that changes a lot lol
Had anyone done the 8451 second round interview??
@uneven pasture
Fallacy. More like 20 more hours a week for 40k more a year
@worthy spear was said above that wlb was fine
more pay !~= more hrs
Yepp in this case wlb is better for the more pay company
that's like an extra $160/day
this is prob the best way to think about it, its pretty massive
Agreed, thanks! I'll probably take it if I don't get offers for my current top 2-3 picks
@sharp lichen im in the exact same position as you haha
does bloomberg call for verbal offers or just email
call from what ive heard
what is the timeline for bloomberg after the phone screen?
I had a deadline so my onsite was exactly 1 week after phone
It was just ok. for both coding rounds, I only coded 1 each and solved the 2nd verbally with no code.
Manager round hit me with a buuunch of system design questions though
@queen burrow, did they get back to you right away after the phone call?
I told them of my deadline, and I have yet to hear back
Yeah I scheduled an onsite the day after phone
^i am on a weird schedule and doing my last semester rn
graduating in december, trying to start new job in feb
i dont have a set job yet, i started applying mid sept, have interviews to do now
for me, im just going to sit around for a semester chilling, then start work like normal
some companies might let you start early
i'd do that usually, take a few months to travel, but covid 😦
a lot of companies do, especially if they're tech companies
i've friends starting at a lot of big companies in jan/feb/march
yep was supposed to grad april 2021
but i have to take 3+ courses this term for reasons, so might as well finish it off
(was supposed to just be doing internship rn)
July/August if graduating in May-ish
The main assignment is pretty simple and doable in like a couple hours
So is the extra credit one if you know even a little about HTTP tbh
are they just gonna be filtering everyone out who doesn't do the 2nd part?
is it really optional
geez the microsoft tagged questions are so bad. 80 % of the effort is spent trying to decipher the prompt
@eager glacier maybe those are good interview questions because it tests if you ask good clarifying questions
but on leetcode you're just stuck guessing lol
did anyone interview with Bloomberg today? if i wan't contacted by hr after the final two rounds of interviews immediately, does that mean I am rejected?
@barren iris I interviewed with them yesterday and got a reject today after two technical rounds. 😬
I am sorry to hear, best wishes to your other interviews!
i just did my second interview today, im not sure when we find out either :/
my first round interviewer asked me to schedule a time for r2 right at the end of the interview
i guess we just wait and see 
Hey guys how likely is it to get rejected after Amazon 30 min final
I mean if you get the OA review then it's practically guaranteed unless you suck
lMFAO
Has anyone here done 2sigma phone interview. Was it LC hard/med?
if you get a LC question probably based on whether or not you get the question right
wait what @arctic drift they give you LC questions?
I got a take-home on Oct 13th, and I haven't completed it still. Should I even bother at this point?
What company
seatgeek
I’d atleast attempt it to see how long it might take
Fucking hell. Got rejected after final round interviews from 2 different companies
It's so depressing and demotivating
Fml
Interviewer just no showed on me
Anyone interviewed for Nextdoor?
anyone here take the hiring manager round for qualtrics?
@tiny wedge I took it earlier this week, still waiting to hear back
@magic sable I did their final a few days ago
@devout bobcat how well did you do on the first 2 OAs? I think a 30 min final interview is a really good sign, just double checking you can explain your thoughts
@devout bobcat how well did you do on the first 2 OAs? I think a 30 min final interview is a really good sign, just double checking you can explain your thoughts
@wild otter 7/7 OA1 13/13 7/13 OA2
okay, thanks. yeah I got like 3 or 4/7 on the first one haha, i took too long on one and it burned me. I got all of OA2 so i feel okay, but a 30 min final would be sweet. GL on yours
still have to do my OA3
Can anybody ELI5 what exactly clear street does? I tried reading their vision page but I’m still a little confused https://clearstreet.io/vision
If I’m correct, it seems like they want to create infrastructure for other hedge funds to use to make it easier for them to trade stocks
Basically yeah that’s what I got as well
Just joined and reading some posts. What does OA stand for?
Online assessment
Ah. Thanks. 👍
ik someone who accepted an offer from clear street and even he doesn't understand v well what they do
do you know what clear streets comp is like?
i started and just skipped their takehome cuz lazy and no info on comp lol
this guy told me 100k base but he's not working from nyc so might be lower because of that?
I thought you had to work in NYC
also i think he got the offer before they put up the new grad position? july/aug?
tbh he was super sketchy about the entire thing to me
ngl clear street sketched me out with their processing being so damn long lol and nothing about the company online
but it seems like they do cool stuff
nah, i just didn't feel like spending 3-5 hours and then another 5-6 hours for onsite/more interviews for an offer i'd be highly unlikely to take anyways lol
yeah makes sense
i'm kinda glad i interviewed for a couple of companies i have no interest in this week
definitely got me into a better interview mood for next week
Hey !
You gave final round with Lucid?
just curious, i've noticed a trend. Has anyone who got a 30 minute final round interview at Amazon (for New Grad) got an LC question? It seems like its happening alot more often
nothing to lose, might as well!
Has anyone heard from cloudfare after submitting OA?
Should I ask companies for free t shirts?
@tame latch
Don’t do that
roblox final round today 😬😬😬
my application at Bytedance went from "Written test" to "Interviewing" but I didnt receive any emails. anyone knows what this means?
"What is a range of compensation you are expecting for this position" something competitive with my other offers. "do you have a range?" 100-150 "looking at your resume that top number seems high"
yes
and the glassdoor says 140ish for the position lmao
Felt great about the interview other than awkward part lol we'll see
Someone has said that to me as well
How'd that pan out
I took a different offer lmao
They said it to me after I gave them a competing offer with that amount
So gg

i told this one company 200-300 and then they never got back to me after the OA lmao
so needless to say sometimes u can say too much
If your comp is near 150 and a recruiter says it's a lot just straight up reveal offer. The message is pretty clear: your competitor is willing to pay me this much. If u can't match then no point interviewing
Lol I'm fine with just 75k as long as I get a job in a state and place I want to work in
honestly that’s a depressing outlook. i get knowing your worth relative to the market and all but if you’d be depressed making $80k out of college bc you’re only in it for the $ isn’t that a little sad?
Honestly 80k in Boston is still enough to live off of
delusional
Like I'm not saying 80k is ideal but it's enough to pay rent and have a little left over
yeah it’s certainly “enough”. of course that’s relative bc what it really gets at is “what luxuries are you accustomed to?”
@worthy spear lol I guess. Like for me it just depends. Obviously 75k won't do in California
Bruh that is PLENTY. there are people who live in Boston making minimum wage. You are very out of touch
^
idk i grew up in a high COL area
i feel like i have a pretty good sense of how expensive things are
I also feel like that comment really invalidates the hard work of people who struggled to find a job and had to settle for a smaller company at a lower salary...
and you’re rly ignoring the way millions of ppl live in these high COL areas
LMAO they do. Have you heard of residency
This server definitely has some ppl on a totally different level but $80k as a salary is actually fairly common in lesser known companies
Yeah those people making minimum wage are busting their ass too
lmfao
arguably doing smth that makes you miserable regardless of comp is a waste of a life
I mean if you derive all of your self-worth and happiness from the amount of money then I don't know what to tell you
i have a lot of other interests outside of CS. im not sure id be a software engineer if all professions paid the same, so again, I understand that comp is an important consideration. but i would enjoy software engineering as a profession
which is maybe why ill “only” be making $100k base out of college
yeah the US is also the only place where software engineers are compensated like this
I mean we also have to pay for a lot of shit out of pocket like healthcare
agree, which rly fucks over the ppl who make shit money and still don’t have benefits
bruh weren’t you thinking about grad school
compensation doesn’t always scale with the difficulty of your work
^100% agreed
Imagine this dude living on a PHD stipend
My highest offer rn is the easiest and least busy job
And I'd argue research in other fields etc is arguably harder
Than most swe jobs esp at junior levels
imagine comparing being able to write some shitty APIs to being a fucking doctor. Jesus some of the people in this field are so toxic and out of touch with reality
in other news @sinful meadow when did you get amazon juice? 👀
@eager glacier he actually presented to all the interns at my internship last summer bc he works there. super smart but honestly not a great presenter
Or even worse Blind
some of y’all spent way too much time on collegeconfidential and r/a2c and it shows
it’s me I’m y’all but at least I grew out of it
Hella yea this is the toxic tea I come to this channel for
of course you gotta try your best to get the best you can, but if you're not content with a little you'll never be content.
@latent cipher who presented
What's r/a2c
apply2collegw
@marble pond Bjarne Stroustrup!
The only post I've read on r/a2c is the stanford does not exist
@flint halo just reading the words collegeconfidential gave me flashbacks
A friend sent me this link a few days ago
Honestly I love how even this post has TC and YOE at the bottom
omg
Honestly Blind scares me lol. Like these people actually exist and could potentially be your coworkers
as though a woman would be like “well you have less than 1 YOE so maybe come back when you’re managing a few devs”
f
All the replies to this thread also devolve into "hmm good advice, btw what's your TC"
this is y im trying to get non tech friends lool
Why do people ask for job advice on this channel even tho we are all jobless rn 🥲
I think will is trolling or completely out of touch
The entitlement in some of these servers
I mean what do you expect when CS students have to stare at a screen and LC all day
computer only friend me love computer
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Yes.
Btw does everyone else get databricks ads on their instagram too
nah but i didn’t apply
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I need some reassurance yall. The only new grad offer I have is from Capital One. My end goal is working at an actual tech company, however I'm afraid if I don't leave C1 within 3 years or so I won't be able to get out of the FinTech industry. Does anyone know of anybody switching from C1 to BigN? I've actually heard of people going from C1 to Amazon but that's about it
Ppl can go from not even being a SWE to working at BigN
lmao
?
Oh I thought u were saying u can’t go to big an
and taken into account ppl legit do career transitions
Yea
U can be a mechancial engineer and then do swe at google
It doesn’t really matter
Where does the line between fintech and regular tech stand?
Like I'm at a startup rn that deals with monetary systems but 80% of the company rn is engineers I believe. Probs even more
Lol I have a degree in Molecular Biology
blind is the new tinder
The only reason I care about going from C1 to BigN is because I'd be in Plano for C1 and I'd like to be in Austin because of my girlfriend. I'm still trying to find an Austin offer but it's looking slim, i don't want to seem ungrateful about getting a C1 offer because I really fucking am. ig i should stop worrying
completely understandable (im trying to move to the seattle area for my girlfriend as well lol) but C1 def won’t keep you out of most places later on! especially if you’re gaining a lot of skills + growing as an engineer there
things might be remote for a while?? maybe you can stay with friends and family at least at the start of your job?
Yeah, I'm hoping C1 is going to be remote for the first year since my GF has 1 year left of school, then she can go anywhere because she's an education major lmao. But Austin is where it's at it so I'd rather just stay here. Or she might be fully remote for another year and can do student teaching in DFW.
@frosty forum people definitely dip from C1, it’s a blind meme at this point
@eager glacier not yet, but at this point i got a pretty good chance i do. I'll probably just renege if I find an Austin offer.
@flint halo oh yeah i've seen it all from Desu's blind and Desu's 50 alt accounts on reddit
yea I've heard mostly good things about C1. As long as you're a competent engineer and down to do the interview prep grind, you can always move to big N in the future
yeah that's the general consensus i see now. yeah I just ignore Desu at this point lmao.
What does he say?
What does he say?
@vocal carbon He goes around to C1 posts on reddit and blind spamming that TDP and C1 is shitty along with this link: http://desudesudesu.io/
Desu's Realm | A GLORIOUS TRIBUTE TO DESU'S HOLY CRUSADE AGAINST CAPITAL ONE
Blind is stupid
i dont have opinions but spamming TC/YOE? in the comments is annoying
I do agree that the tc or gtfo mentality gets annoying, but it is also nice to have transparency about what people in our industry get paid
boomers have this weird idea that tc is something that should never be shared, and imo it doesn't help because then people won't know if they're being underpaid
I think it’s having this balance between being willing to divulge your salary and not hiding it but also not shitting on others for having low TC
Blind does well on the former but screws the pooch on the latter
agreed
Kinda wish talking about compensation irl wasn't that big of a taboo
Kinda wish talking about compensation irl wasn't that big of a taboo
@vocal carbon yea that's why imo the culture of sharing tc in tech is good, just makes sure people are getting paid fairly
blind's relationship section is pure comedy
For those getting demotivated with all these OAs and crazy interview requirements, you could always join the Navy's New Professional Program and become a computer scientist with them. Much lower bar for entry, just need to prove your soft skills. Just submit your resume here until the New Professional tab https://www.navair.navy.mil/nawcwd/now_hiring I already got interviews for 2 separate locations within a week
what's msft's ft return offer?
@somber oyster 110,500k base, 30k stock per year, and starting bonus 25-50k for intern return offer
standard is 109.5 base
for seattle area, pretty much everyone got the same 110.5k offer if you're undergrad SWE
no one i know got 110.5
all 6 ppl i asked got 109.5
wait
nvm im trolling sry
brain freeze
keep in mindCOL difference
standard is 110.5
damn thats a lot of return offers lmao
dont u guys think its weird
that theres such a diversity of interns, experiences, and performances
and they pretty much receive same offer
and what you negotiate on for starting bonus isn't even really based on performance but competing offers

you negotiate based on performance on other interviews*
i.e. your perceived worth goes up because more companies want you
more companies that pay even better**** want you
companies just pay the minimum they can in order to keep you
why would they pay you 150k if you're going to accept 100k -- a competing offer makes it obvious you're not going to accept that 100k
i wonder about the transparency thing for salaries
people say more people get paid "fairly" but i wonder if it also stops higher salaries
cuz if some new grad who did some huge change in azure gets a high tc for new grad, then everyone else who did the regular/average performance will try to negotiate for that person's high tc quoting same level
even though that person might have had a much bigger business impact than them
so msft cant pay one person more bc... pay one more, have to pay them all more, else msft is not being "fair" and "underpaying"/"lowballing" some workers
Smaller companies often have differing return offers depending on how much you did at internship
Obviously these companies hire like 10-15 interns a year so its v different
Isn't the whole point of salary transparency @sinful meadow
We work the same job but they get paid more
so I should get paid more
now that I know their salary
I mean recruiters accept that from my experience
"market research"
just have to buzzword it up
🤔
could i get some opinions on microsoft vs salesforce for full time
Both are pretty good in terms of wlb and pay, also career progression
Decide on the basis of teams if you know them already
If not, just go with whatever you feel like wrt TC and location
microsoft is writing c# apps on cloud/ai team, salesforce is a SWE on an SRE team
this is for a friend
when she asked me i realized i couldn't give a great answer so i wanted to get some opinions from here
c+ai contains like most of microsoft so there’s a lot of variance there
yeah specific team is still unknown
@quick burrow what happened
@unkempt echo dm me the orgs I can give more insight
@quick burrow i just finished my final interview, can I dm you about what you got LOL
@quick burrow Why SD though. I lived in SD for most of my life and literally just want to live somewhere else
Yeah I lived in NYC for a couple of months and I really liked it there.
SD is pretty chill but it really depends where you live I guess
ya cali is great
the BURRITOS
the best burrito ive had is at the MIT burrito shop
SD mexican food >> all
i miss it
that's fake burrito
i want to go to MIT's burrito shop again
SD mexican food >> all
@grave gull SD mexican food >> mexican food in mexico ????
I live in the suburbs of SD so I think its a bit too quiet for my liking
nah I live pretty far away from that lol
@quick burrow you can choose to live in NYC and work for DoorDash
but i think the teams there are mostly front end
Anyone do Ibm devops engineer interview?
@azure gull is this after OA?
Yeah after OA @devout bobcat
has anyone tried negotiating w vmware?
Dang you’re like the first person I know who got a response other than the rejection
I haven't gotten a rejection but i havent' gotten a response lmfao
does anyone know engineers a couple years into industry that have tried switching companies? is it easier to get responses from companies?
in comparison to the internship/new grad life
You can only use this command in 2021_grad_process or 2021_intern_process
found out that my vmware offer is for a team that uses C - do i dare go back into team matching? 😂
doesn't that make sense for what the company does tho
are they not mostly low level type code idk
they probably have something higher, it’s a pretty big company so i’d hope
Does this mean the stripe RSU policy on blind isn’t accurate? ‘We will convert your cash equity value to RSUs based on the FMV on your start date. Stripe will commit to the dollar value of the new hire grant, but not convert this value to RSUs until after you start at Stripe. This way while the value of the grant will remain consistent, the number of RSUs will reflect the preferred value at start date.’ Not completely sure how RSU’s work
@tiny wedge wait how'd you find out, through the phone call? Or did you learn this after you signed
i scheduled a call with the manager through my recruiter
oh nice okay
anyone know SIG salary for software engineer?
any heard of the cseo department at msft? I wanted to work on a product team, but got an offer for cseo. Is it possible to negotiate departments or would it be better to try to switch after accepting?
@formal reef they didn't let interns interview with other teams so i would assume there is little to no room for team negotiations. Just accept, work for ~6 months, and interview with your desired team
