#2021_grads
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anyone know if affirm negotiates?
Epic OA is trash
I see that this is US focussed server, if you know about any other server for opportunities in Europe or southeast asian countries like singapore, japan etc please inform me.
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I see that this is US focussed server, if you know about any other server for opportunities in Europe or southeast asian countries like singapore, japan etc please inform me.
@restive cairn it sounds like there was a google opening in japan or singapore
thanks, I will check it out
Hey everyone! Has anyone been following a good study guide for interview prep? I feel like I’m constantly going in a circle on not knowing how to maximize my studying time.
check out nick whites patreon
rip michelin starred dropbox food
@daring bough ok on the highest of keys
their cafeteria is out of this world lol
or I guess was
too bad their interviewers rekt me and didn't apologize 😦
did you do epic onsite?
Has VISA posted their new grad role yet?
no
doesnt seem like they are this year
or maybe in january they will
they released new grad for analyst
did anyone hear back from ebay after the codesignal?
anyone participating in citadel data science hackathon?
Has anyone interviewed with pendo
Wtffff
I have an interview scheduled with Amazon tomorrow morning but the job posting itself is no longer on the career portal???
Gives me a 404
On my application portal, it's just grey now???
Bruhhh
You're fired
anyone participating in citadel data science hackathon?
@restive cairn I’m not but would b down to join if you don’t have a team
Does anyone know what happens in Microsoft final rounds of interviews (FT grad)?
You're fired
@lucid pagoda you're hired
@restive cairn I’m not but would b down to join if you don’t have a team
@grave lark I won't be participating because I missed the deadline
Hell yeah
once again i missed something because email got lost in inbox

I should disable useless newsletters
😩
anyone here successfully negotiated their comp? can I DM you?
@restive cairn do they all come from the same email?
my school has these news blasts that clubs send every x hours lol and I've been filtering them to another folder.
my mail has turned in to dustbin, it is usually newsletters I sign up for which is useful for me for shortterm but become useless overtime.
Same
@frozen oyster I got rejected for their new grad business associate role yesterday
If I retake the CodeSignal general assessment will it be the same questions?
No
roughly same difficulty for each though
anyone else get an email from JP morgan asking for additional information?
does anyone have a recruiter email for flatiron health?
Has anyone gotten a virtual Bloomberg On-Campus interview instead of phone?
once again i missed something because email got lost in inbox
@restive cairn I have a separate email just for job-related stuff because of this lol
what was it like? just LC?
oh nice
do you know if its like the usual process?
i see a lot of people here getting phones --> onsite so this was a bit unexpected
thats true
thanks though and gl!
@autumn lynx i got it exactly a month ago, selected SF and NYC as preferred locations, and havent heard from them since
has anyone interviewed for cloud technical residency at google yet?
@autumn lynx i got it exactly a month ago, selected SF and NYC as preferred locations, and havent heard from them since
@zinc bramble are you talking about the form you had to fill out after hirevue? I got that too but i just got this
@autumn lynx yea
oh i didnt get that rip
how long ago did you fill out the first form?
Has anyone done the Headlands tech Hackerrank? HMU if ya have haha
I think like 2 weeks ago
anyone take the doordash final today?
@autumn lynx did i get resume rejected then lol
Anyone took Qualtrics final?
How long did it take for them to get back to you after it?
Two days
Two days
@night plume thank you!
Anyone finished Neeva phone screen ?
anyone take Qualtrics phone screen?
@autumn lynx did i get resume rejected then lol
@zinc bramble doubt it. How did u do on the hire vue?
do people still play roblox? like is it a popular game? ppl keep talking about their interviews all the time
but like
theres no way roblox should be a publicly traded company right?
not even whispers of potential ipo, they filed a few days ago
Expected to earn 250 million this year
Don't know too much about the game itself, but seems like an excellent company to work for
They reached 150 million monthly users this summer
wait really
how does that compare to minecraft
lmaoooo they have more revenue than palantir
They surpassed Minecraft (125 million) with that number
kids have fatter wallets these days I guess
lmaoooo they have more revenue than palantir
@old kestrel I was joking with a friend about this but damn it really puts palantir to shame lmao
Wikipedia says half of children under 16 in the US have played Roblox
that's pretty insane
My interviews told me they have like 8 mil daily users active
And they went from 110 to 160 ish mil monthly users after covid
Or during
@autumn lynx i dont remember lol it was so long ago
tetris still #1 in my heart tho
One of my friends has an offer from amazon and Doordash. Recs?
doordash^^
@wraith basin what is the compensation package for doordash?
@wraith basin what is the compensation package for doordash?
@stoic yoke ^^^^^ also wondering
Oh wait is it the same as the one in the new grad salary sharing channel?
ah it must be
thoughts on using microsoft paint w/ screenshare for my interview
apparently they dont ask u to code (jpmc)
do i bring out the secret technology
From my calculations the doordash offer is around 180k to 185k without the signon, so that's compensation from year 2 and onward
@tiny oak they arent asking you to code? That's interesting
thats what people have said
its mostly trivia
i test drove using paint it went pretty well talking to myself i think 
i think interviewer would understand it pretty well
has anyone here done the databricks phone interview?
it's fucking impossible to draw shit with your mouse lmao
Osu players about to ace every onsite
wait jpm makes u use ms paint?
no lol
i just think they don't ask you to code
but i was thinking to use ms paint to get my point across
idk if they would even let me do that
bc verbally explaining kinda hard vs white boarding
yeah i was half joking when I sent it i think it would get pretty wild
might get a crack out of the interviewer though
The advantage of having a drawing pad 🙂
@native ruin passing any interview is always an achievement :D
DAMN
i emailed a stripe recruiter in end of sept to update my email
and she just now saw it and responded
o.o
How come amazon's package is less than others?
All the offers in this server are from big N or unicorns
Amazon's package is good in the grand scheme of things
I'd speculate they pay less because they've been growing a lot lately, but idk
I think they bet people want their stock which has grown at a ridiculous rate
Amazon's hiring bar in previous years has also been lower than most of FAANG/Unicorns iirc
it's very hire fast fire fast mentality (also why their stock vesting schedule is so fucked lmfao)
which is why it seems "lower" than other FAANGs/Unicorns (except MSFT which pays basically the same)
what is their stock vesting sched?
5/15/40/40
oof
basically if you suck you won't get stocks bc you'll get pipped out first lmfao
my friend said that the bonuses decrease over time so really TC is roughly equal across all 4 yrs
Yeah it’s like 150 TC each year
is the beta good?
study lc and then once you have a cushy job that pays well and has good wlb, you'll have plenty of free time for cod
everyone gets all three parts of the amazon oa right? bc the email i just got says "If you successfully pass Part 1, you will receive Part 2 in a new email. If you then successfully pass Part 2 you would receive Part 3 in a new email. After completion of the part 3, Amazon Student Programs will review your results to determine next steps."
anyone have tips for optiver data scientist final round? hardly any info online
just got amazon oa and it says I must use a webcam for the OA's wtf lmfao have not seen that
thats new isnt it lmfao
the webcam is only for taking a photo. they dont record u all the time
I'm doing karat next week which is basically being recorded
If I need more space. The "education" section will be shorter and shorter as I (hopefully) get more experience
Has anyone here ever turned down FANG for a smaller company? If so, what was the reason and did you regret your decision?
$$$
Do you all plan to remove gpa off your resume after your first new grad job?
@eager glacier dont even have it now honestly
alot of apps ask for it but i feel like it lets them put me in a box lowkey, not a bad gpa just not an exciting gpa
so i put it in the app but not the resume
any good sites to practice mental math / patterns for quant?
Is doing lc medium enough for new grad interviews?
graduatetrader @autumn lynx
@earnest mist yes
@earnest mist yes. if u can do them in 25-30 mins ur gucci
@rocky spoke do you mean 1 question in 25-30 mins?
hards are not necessarily harder either. usually they combine 2 concepts from mediums into one question
yes
speed and slickness is important imo and not talked about enough
laughs in regex matching
Has anyone here ever turned down FANG for a smaller company? If so, what was the reason and did you regret your decision?
@rocky spoke
i did 2 fang internships and am going to a smaller company full time
can't say if i regret it yet
@old kestrel which company did you choose and why did you choose it over fang?
two sigma
"small"
i just got trolled
Is it bad if we get a solution too quickly in an interview? Will the interviewer think that I already knew the answer?
lol has anyone here accidentally used an ide for codesignal
whenever most ppl say they goin from faang to small company its always a unicorn or quant firm lol
@sinful meadow
if ur leaving fang its probably the only place people will go
wasn't being recorded, but they can detect copy+paste atleast
its too hard to get into the super risky places
if ur not target
its hard enough to get into these "medium" size places
i applied to a bunch of startups and didnt get interviewed by any of them
@earnest mist nah. unless u literally jump the solution. in a 45 min interview u should aim to finish the main question in 25 mins so they have time to ask u other questions
lol I only get interviewed by small startups
The biggest company I've worked for is 60 people
FAANG etc don't even send me a rejection
^that sounds fun
what exactly is a support engineer (saw a post about it)? specifically at salesforce, and how is it different then like a regular support engineer job
Does anyone know what Amazon coding and work style entail? Is the coding part the OA?
Has anyone done grubhub final round?
grubhub has new grad roles?
Someone plz answer my Amazon question ^ 🥺
Yeah but it seems like they mainly recruit from college career fairs
@formal basalt the work style part involves a simulation where you have to make decisions/answer emails in a virtual work setting
And the coding ?
Have you done any part of the OA?
Debugging
After that it’s your typical leetcode questions
There’s debugging, coding and work style & technical problem solving
Thought tech problem solving is OA?
OA part 2 is 2LC in 70 mins
So coding and ws contains one OA?
im just scared they gonna give me some LC hard and i'll embarrass myself
They ask mental math problems too
for swe??
Yeah prolly onsite
lmao dis gon b humbling
Including system design
ah, well i just have a phone screen
yea gp
Seems like here is more of US students
I have 2 offers. One from Adobe (return offer) and the other from Amazon. I'm tending towards Adobe (san jose) since it's better pay, work and wlb. Amazon feels a good choice mainly for location (Seattle, I have friends and family there) and the FAANG status. I will most probably move to Seattle in 2-3 years. Amazon feels like a good way to start in Seattle but I'm concerned about the toxic culture and work I'll be given. What do you guys suggest?
130k+ in San Jose vs 116k in Seattle
For sure Adobe
what work would u be doing at adobe vs amazon
TC for Adobe is over 300k
I'd take adobe tbh
Amazon is the standard Seattle offer for entry-level
Wtf why is Adobe so high
^ asking the real question
Do you have experience before a masters degree?
wtf Adobe's TC is 300??
Then its possible
Yeah I worked for a year before my masters
There we go
^^
you got that yoe with masters so amazon offer is lowball
yep
Do you think it makes any difference having FAANG on the resume?
Adobe is good enough no worries
it doesnt matter having faang on resume unless you have all 5
its like the infinity stones
lolol
Yeah, Amazon lowballed. Only reason to consider is FAANG and the location which appeals to me
Id say amazon has like an inch higher reputation than adobe but def not worth that TC
Internally transfer to Seattle later
@vagrant raft that's the plan at Adobe
- masters
I have worked with distributed systems and real time data pipelines
exp + masters in california to me sound 300k capable
Do you have your masters
Yea specialized skills + exp + masters can net you that
Go for Adobe I would say
I have a very similar profile as yours
just without any prior experience
I took Dell over FAANG
Much better base and profile
and location
I would say, go for a sure shot profile
Yeah, I think the same. I'm just not sure if it'll hurt my chances when I do look to switch companies
I have heard of ML and Distributed Systems people doing Full Stack work at Amazon
which is like bull
I have heard of ML and Distributed Systems people doing Full Stack work at Amazon
@tepid minnow that's the fear I have
Taking adobe over amazon will never hurt your chances
amazon is a sweat shop for new grad, just dont
One of my friends was thrown into a Full Stack role at Amazon and had no prior experience. Said it was stressful
123k base
Yea Adobe probably has a better culture as well
same profile
hey i signed amazon offer myself and im telling you to go adobe 🤣
I feel like there's no reason to take Amazon in this case over Adobe, I'm surprised you're considering Amazon at all @opal mango
Is adobe giving you SWE-2 ?
Definitely Adobe
Playing the devil's advocate, amazon is a good starting position as a new grad with that solid name reputation
but not with that offer from adobe
name/prestige becomes much less of an issue once you have some experience from what I've heard, so in this case the difference in name is almost immaterial
^^^
I personally don't think there's any solid reputation left with amazon after doing that kind of hiring in the last 2 years
Is adobe giving you SWE-2 ?
@tepid minnow didn't tell me if it's swe-2 but 2 promotions would make me a computer scientist at Adobe
@tepid minnow aws is going on solid, if you mean by prestige you are right
Sweet man, I would go for Adobe without a doubt
yea like hiring bar prestige, not prestige of their services lol, AWS is still top notch
I agree but if you look at ratio of people who are actually contributing towards AWS as a platform wrt people who are closing online tickets lol
It's unreal
I have personally seen very very bad cases with amazon
@tepid minnow aws is going on solid, if you mean by prestige you are right
@rigid elbow sorry for the confusion, I was replying to this
i have a friend pulling 65 hour work weeks in aws just to stay off dev list. poor guy
poor guy
People with 3+ years of industry experience have entered as a new grad and worked on something completely irrelevant to their profile
and then had major issues switching
you cant switch if ur on pip/dev list
Specifically ask about your team, your role and your profile before considering amazon over adobe is what I suggest @opal mango
Yea it isnt too bad to swtich
Omly issue is that your manager has complete control
what if you get a sociopath
Then ur screwed
at amazon you just gotta find a right team
^^
Another point that is very important is that you've already interned with Adobe so you know what your work life is going to be like @opal mango . Consider that as well
I think we altogether have no doubt that @opal mango should take adobe
I am just suggesting because I recently made a very similar difficult decision, I am not saying it was the right one but definitely consider these factors
Respect within your team plays a huge role in your career growth as well
real career growth = switch companies
@sinful meadow preach lol
Thanks guys! Really appreciate the help!👍
for an onsite interview, do interviewers usually give you hints if they think you’re stuck lol
And does that take away from your performance?
just wondering cause when I’m doing LC meds/hards I feel like I can get the question most of the time if I get a poke in the right direction
Yeah they’ll usually give you a hint but that’ll def hinder your performance
I have had a very mixed experience, some interviewers are really awesome and they themselves recognize where we could get stuck and give hints and at the same time some of them wouldn't even give useful hints lol
even after asking
them for one
Ahhh I guess it’s a luck game then
thanks guyss
Then there are some interviewers who will give you hint too early and then reject you
congrats @opal mango! two great offers
on that note has anyone heard back from adobe for new grad lol
Bruh, that's lame
Adobe, great work culture, its bay area also + 300k$
Amazon if you know about team
salesforce doesnt hire new grads unless their from their intern pool right?
245k tc for a Facebook new grad?? Am I missing something ?
where did you get that from?
The salary sharing channel
holy shit lmfao
That’s genuinely insane, must have negotiated with some other really good offers or be a PhD student lmao
nah thats standard package for return offer for full time
slightly above standard
regular sign on is 70k
245 tc for first year. Usually a good idea to amortize one time bonuses over 4 years imo.
why? doesnt make sense if ur only getting it in 1 year
I think that might be one reason why levels.fyi averages are inflated
Cause then it's just a battle for the biggest sign-in bonus
hmm yeah
Imo just makes it easier to compare different offer packages to each other. Yeah basically what susanoo said
Anyone have recommendations on how to find new grad positions, in general and also local ones? Intern searching was easy when using LinkedIn etc. But new grad it mixes in senior roles and whatever else
I just have an assortment of indeed/linkedin/google alerts
Chris Jereza mustve finally graduated lmao
@rich flame he dropped out
Is he working fulltime now?
do all parts of the amazon OA have a 5-day deadline?
damn really? thats rough
@viscid crater yeah that FB offer is insane but I’m not surprised. I know someone who graduated undergrad from Rice who got something similar in terms of TC.
Will Akuna email me back today like recruiter promised....let’s find out!!!
they took an extra week after their promise date for me lol
anyone hear back from ibm? my app is still under review
did you do hackerrank? @devout bobcat
yeah @prisma saddle
my app is still under review. Haven't heard anything @devout bobcat
aight aight thanks!
I haven't heard shit and it's been almost a month since I did the Front end OA
anyone have some good resources for studying up on OOP trivia-like questions?
Any tips for the second phone screen for HRT (Core Dev)? Should I just expect an LC question (probably a hard) or is it more of a DS/design question?
Anyone gave HRT phone interview for algo developer role?
On God clear street wants us to make an order book tf🤣😂
@ornate charm did you just get the project as well?
Seems like everyone just got the challenge lol
mfw they're having us do the entire project in codesignal too
Has anyone done the DoorDash virtual onsite? And if so, how was it?
Clear street be like do a hackathon for the chance to call us
Bro my JP morgan recruiter so intimidating called me about offer and was basically trying to convince me to take it
Since still waiting for BB but still waiting for details of offer
@real prism when is deadline for JPM?
He just called me and was like ur offer is approved and asking if I was going to accept and I was like can u wait 2 weeks and he’s like no 1 week max i think
did you tell BB?
leveraging would be the best way to go
yea im about to email BB
dude was mad scary though, hes russian
cus i havent seen the offer details yet
for JP
Wait they want you to accept without showing you the details?
yeah he called and was like are u ready to accept the offer
but idek how much its paying
or anything yet
breh hell nah, ask for the offer letter first
and im still interviewing with bloomberg
and ask them to mail the offer
yeah he said it just got approved and hes going to email it
and say that you need some time to make sure you're making the best decision
you accpet after you get it
yeah i thought recruiters were nicer
seemed like he was strongarming me
dam just got email getting rejected from BB
FAWK
😢
ok just got offer letter in email, should i accept or wait for roblox...
basically JP vs roblox
are you waiting for a final decision from roblox? I would wait if so or if you're about to have your final interview. I would also let your Roblox recruiter know that you have another offer with the deadline
@autumn lynx Yes, I got that email from JP Morgan.
basically JP vs roblox
@real prism damn roblox would be sick
yeah im so unsure
cus roblox def pays more
but i live in nyc and kinda want to stay in nyc
ideally wouldve wanted bb, but got rejected last round 😢
@real prism definitely hold on on signing with JPM!!! Don’t let them pressure u if u r waiting on another offer.
yeah i think im about to email the roblox recruiter
cus im pretty sure i passed the virtual onsite
but i heard theres a behavior round after
does roblox have an office in nyc?
roblox > JPM
roblox seems like a lot of fun
yeah the behaviour round is with an exec, but its only like 15 minutes
if you ever get pressured like that, i always say I'll need a day or two to talk it over with my family
dam yeah i just want JPM cus its in NYC so im still leaning towards it
and get to live at home for a few years
to save money
even though roblox pays way more
thats why im kinda conflictee
roblox is super profitable
you'll make more money there even considering the higher CoL
yeah thats true
so conflicted
i need to see if i get the roblox offer in the first place
since im from NY i kinda want to stay there since all my friends etc
anyone go through epic systems process? what happens in phone screen
Has anyone given the SAP SVNT for Frontend? I just gave it and I did them all satisfactorily I think, but I went 45 min over the allotted time 
@tiny oak have you done the Oa Yet? Phone screen is 30 min pretty standard behavioral
ok no technical on phone? still have to schedule
No technical on phone. “Tell me about problem you’ve encountered and how you worked through it” sort of stuff
OA is zoom-monitored
Dude requested access to my mouse and computer I said no
Nope it’s some awful PHP website from 2002
lmao wait did you do OA or you said no and didnt do it?
I had kinda technical for my epic interview
it was a very high level abstraction though
I did the OA but didn’t let him access my mouse. He was confused bc I was using Ubuntu and wanted to set up screen sharing a certain way on my machine. I said I got it and did it instead. It worked out. OA is untimed, no compilation or test cases. I had decent answers in python IMO but a rejection a week and half later
the OA was annoying as fuck though
interesting
Yep and all I see are rejects on the process channel
what was lc difficulty? just one ?
A few, LC ez and medium
Also Multiple choice questions and a speed round that I didn’t realize was speed round
Oh shit just saw the epic final in the other channel!
yeah
it's pretty dumb
I had my notes open and I didn't even realize (like it wasn't on my screen)
and the proctor was like "I noticed that you have your notes app open can you please close it" like ???? I didn't even notice that
honestly wouldn't mind being proctored if I didn't have my proctor's stick up my butt the entire time
I got visibly kinda pissed bc my proctor was late too lmfao
i dropped out of the epic hiring process after hearing about that OA 😂
i thought code signal was bad but that’s another level
@latent cipher howd your vmware onsite go today
@zinc bramble it was alright! i got grilled on C & networking which was unfortunate. but the coding wasn’t bad! did you also interview today?
yea i did
how’d it go for you?
i didnt get grilled as hard as some other people
asked about hashmaps and got 3 LC meds and 1 easy
did you code in every interview?
yea
interviewers asked if i had taken OS/sys design or databases in college (i havent) so i guess thats why i got easier questions
oh wow
it varies a lot by interviewer then i guess
ah
oh i told them im taking OS rn too
but i didnt get asked anything lol
my first interviewer's vpn died for 10 mins too
lol i was in the middle of a problem too
lmao one guy asked me if i knew how vms are managed
did you know how to answer
i came up with a high level answer and he seemed to like it 😅
i’ll dm
Anyone know what Databricks final round is like?
Is applying to Amazon diff w/ referral? Got autorejected after OA's a couple weeks ago and I just got offered a referral, wondering if it's possible to reapply w/ it
You can apply to a diff job posting but I'm p sure there's a 6 month refresh period for same job
But also referrals for amazon don't do much in the new grad pipeline lol
Anyone hear back from roblox after virtual onsite yet? Got an offer deadline so I emailed my recruiters but haven’t heard back yet. It’s only 2pm in Cali so they should still be at work 😭
how is bloomberg 1 hr technical?
I emailed roblox after my onsite too, but they haven't responded
Hm I could withdraw my robotics application and reapply ig
I think there was a comment here saying the final rounds would be early mid November
WTFF mid November dam might have to end up taking my offer then since I only got 1 week
just fucked up the debugging on Amazon OA. how many do u have to get to get part 2
how bad does that hinder my chances lmao i got 4 / 7
OA 3 matters the most so it’s ok
Some ppl get 100% on 1 and 2 and still get rejected
Cus of OA 3
did anyone do amazon final round for new grad swe
the work life one?
Yeah the work life one
also how is it only 30 minutes long lmao
@cerulean dirge that means u got the job basically it just reviews OA 2
no leetcode questions?
@autumn lynx There are people who scored full on all the 3 OAs and still got rejected. And then there are those who didn't do that good on the OAs but still got offers.
i dont think everyone gets part 2 cus i didnt get it 2 years ago lmao
and nah i made final round last year for intern and got rejected
How long does it take to hear back after the bloomberg onsite? I had 2 technical + HR + technical + manager in that order. Thanks!
i wonder if amazon wants people to always answer the “work overtime/personal effort” on OA3
Amazon's thing is deliver results no matter what
Hey! Has anybody here applied to Palantir/Intuit/Databrix/Roblox recently? Trying to prepare for my Karat and would really appreciate some guidance on what you were asked and particular questions to look for
I think they used to, no?
Does Microsoft send out in batches?
hi
what to expect in citadel 45 min interview phone call/coderpad round?
this is 1st round for me
I have applied for software engineering role
I don't have finance related knowledge tho
@old kestrel could answer this possibly?
actually I am well prepared for generic whiteboard interviews
but I may get stuck in some maths/stats
also I want to get an idea how hard is interview for a software engineer new grad role
do they expect new grad to know about finance and markets
🤔
i dont think they do
how long does it take to schedule microsoft final after passing phone?
i dont think they do
thanks, it will be great if someone can confirm
I have some time so I can pick up some basics of finance if required
I don't want to do that honestly 
^how long did it take after u took the hackerrank to get the phone?
@restive cairn no finance knowledge expected, I got a quick math brain teaser in mine
great
@obtuse stone was it some university level(advance) math or high school/olympiad maths?
^how long did it take after u took the hackerrank to get the phone?
@autumn lynx my hackerrank test was on 17 sept
I got email for first round today
Not bad like an AMC 10 question
Has anyone interviewed with Disney, gone thru final rounds, and is waiting to hear back?
Are Microsoft and amazon done hiring? I applied early September and haven’t heard anything back
@near finch i am!!
i applied to disney while back still haven't heard
Anyone do cloudflare oa?
is it fked up to accept two job offers, but the first one starts in nov and the second starts next summer, planning on working the first job until summer and taking that one is that bm
sure, but idk how itll be useful promo wise unless u plan on switching to a 3rd company and leveling up
ur gonna be coming in as a new grad for the second one
@real prism be prepared to pay back your signing bonus
jpm is just 100k flat no signing bonus LOL
oh yeah current offer is jpm, but waiting on roblox
bc i heard at jpm you dont really promote
compared to tech companies
bruh this cloudflare OA requires us to use their products
cloudflare, another neeva
@real prism how did you get jpm
went through pymetrics, hirevue then virtual onsite
did anyone take cloudfare oa
everyone just got it
Anyone here interview with ServiceNow for new grad?
ngl I think it's a lot easier to get finals if you have them
like if you have one then they'll be pressured to more quickly interview you
at other places
^^
lmao
the job market is pretty rough
if anything if u spent that much time on it and got rejected i feel like ppl would be less likely to use it
anyone have any good OOP sources to study for?
like if you have one then they'll be pressured to more quickly interview you
@ruby crow wait what do you tell other companies if you have a final?
i thought that only worked for offers
dry inbox week
@spice belfry generally during the first interview they'll ask you if you have any other offers. Just say "I have no offers with deadlines right now, but I am actively interviewing and have X final rounds in X time"
If you're waiting to hear back after one interview, you can also send an email update asking for progress and mentioning you have other interviews
Yeah that's the only thing that sucks
hmm i might pull a "hey i have 1 final wanna give me a phone screen" at companies i care less about
@spice belfry generally during the first interview they'll ask you if you have any other offers. Just say "I have no offers with deadlines right now, but I am actively interviewing and have X final rounds in X time"
@ruby crow but jw do you mention the company or no when you do that
fair enough, thanks for sharing!
ofc!
Yeah companies get mad fomo
so like
once you get one ball rolling
it's a little easier
oh i'm sure... but getting the ball rolling is the hardest part unfortunately
yeah 😦
folks, are you relocating to your office's city for your start date even if your company is still wfh?
yes
when the housing there is cheaper
can we make a roommates channel for 2021 grads/interns/etc,.
i feel like that would be uber helpful
yeah itll be out soon
bless up @cerulean pivot
were gonna release different channels
more than just roommate finding
have to code a bit of stuff on the bot
sick tyty
@neon zinc going on 2 weeks for msft still waiting with competing deadline, the 3-5 weeks seems about right
@bold gull ty, dang that's hella long
Anyone do the Orchard OA? how was it?
It is 😢
seven eight capital oa was disgusting omg
seven eight capital oa was disgusting omg
@devout bobcat how difficult were the q's? I was planning on cranking it out tmrw
WTF
I wonder if big companies gonna be back in their office by June 2021
Peeps graduating in May, when are you guys planning on starting full time work
Are u guys gonna take the summer off to relax or go straight to work
should have asked if we have an offer to begin with.. 
Most companies start in Julyish tbh so few months off then work
Yall, anyone got a gig in technical consulting/sales? HMU please
Peeps graduating in May, when are you guys planning on starting full time work
@sharp flame planning on taking the summer off :/
Anyone got 3 rounds of virtual interviews for amazon new grad role??
Peeps graduating in May, when are you guys planning on starting full time work
@sharp flame
A lot of companies don’t start their new grads until august
So I grad in May but won’t start until August
Peeps graduating in May, when are you guys planning on starting full time work
@sharp flame im gonna work while in school my life is empty and covid is depressing so may as well get money while being stuck at home :)
If my offers in Texas, but I'm remote working from cali, do I still gotta pay state tax
No state tax here
Ya but I'm still based in cali cus of covid
Dunno if that affects how taxes are calc
u usually need an address in the state
to reap the benefits of the no taxes
i think thats how it worsk
ur resident addr or w/e
Coo thx
yes you pay taxes where you reside, in this case california, so you'll pay california state income tax
guys is searching for ft easier than getting an internship?
As in do you get more calls?
guys is searching for ft easier than getting an internship?
not necessarily
What about big companies. Do they call more though
hey everyone, I've got a question
I'm an undergrad who is on an F1 visa. I've got two summers of research experience, and worked at a startup in my junior summer which I've continued this fall. I spoke with career counselor at my school who was very insistent that I need industry experience to really increase my odds. Would you guys agree?
@rocky zinc hard to say atm the market is an employer's market due to all the layoffs and/or COVID impacting the business headcount is reduced on top of that
Can having solid interviewing skills and personal projects make up for the lack of a big tech company internship?
not really sure what it'll look like next year
not really sure what it'll look like next year
@wind acorn hmm makes sense but in general shouldn't there be more openings for ft?
but this year I'm having a much harder time getting callbacks as opposed to last and I have more experience this time around too
Can having solid interviewing skills and personal projects make up for the lack of a big tech company internship?
@opaque heath depends on if you can pass the resume screen in the end, since solid interviewing skills won't make a difference if you can't get an interview
@rocky zinc yeah but there's probably also more applicants
@rocky zinc yeah but there's probably also more applicants
@wind acorn how so? You'll only have seniors
@rocky zinc entry level = <2 years of experience
What about faang? @wind acorn
@solid terrace thanks, what do those odds look like? How much of a difference does it make to have a solid intern experience at a startup vs a more established tech company?
headcount this year is reduced so this year most of FAANG isn't really hiring new grad/entry level roles (G and FB for instance). Does Netflix ever hire entry level roles lol?
I can provide more details if youd like
haha i wish i knew the answer to that, but referrals are usually good to get past the resume screen
hard to tell since this is the first time I've applied for FT so I'd take my answers w/ a grain of salt @rocky zinc
Fair. My assessment is I have a great GPA, okayish projects, and I've had research experiences plus this startup internship. I think I can get referrals through friends, and hopefully that's enough to get past the resume screen
if ur coursework is low u should try working part time w/ the startup. very big plus, esp if u can establish that u were a crucial member in a small team
@rocky zinc are you asking in general or specifically about the current recruiting cycle?
Because new grads are getting shafted this year but companies are continuing to hire interns
Did anyone give eBay Codesignal OA?
Anyone taken the Palantir hackerrank?
Has anyone taken Roivant Hirevue Interview?
I had no internship experience, only done research experience, and one project on my resume and got interviewed by Google , Oracle, and Visa. Granted this was before covid and it's a lot harder now to get interviews from these companies currently. So you never know @opaque heath
But also I worked in my schools career services and knew what employers looked for in a resume and what layout to use.
I have to give Amazon OA3. Can somebody please share the questions
No questions are shared here @rapid crown
@rocky zinc this year new grad is definitely harder than intern. Covid means there's economic hit now but companies are betting on a better future. Also companies don't want to onboard new grads virtually and are betting that by next year people will be back in the office. So intern hiring is better right now. You can tell by the # of people sharing their intern offers vs the # of people sharing new grad offers, and by the fact that lots of companies are not even opening new grad right now like FB
I feel like next year will be also hard since there will be 2022 new grad + 2021 grad as 2021 new grad are not getting many jobs
About to officially decide to got to Bloomberg for new grad, over Doordash. Looking for dissenting opinions that I might not have thought of yet.
anyone have any input?
you should probably say why you decided bb over doordash so far
and what you've thoguht about lmfao
lol yeah sorry! I was thinking that Bloomberg is a lot more established as a company, so they would have better training. Both are in NYC, so location is a non-issue. Doordash comp is like 20k per year higher, but it's also in RSUs and they aren't public yet so idk if that is real money or not. I also think I'd probably have better WLB at Bloomberg
i would agree that ur probably gonna have better WLB at bb
but wlb is a team to team thing
How do you feel about their cultures too
I'm really confused about tech reputation tho. I'm not sure which would have better recruiting potential later on
Culture wise they seemed similar actually
Wrt tech reputation either is honestly fine lol
I don't think you're shooting yourself in the foot with either
depends if u want to do more fin tech in the future or not
Thanks for the input!
If you guys had an offer from your top choice would u cancel other interviews? I have to sign in 2 weeks and am doing finals still but don’t see the point in doing phone/HR interviews anymore. I guess I’m just worried about job/offer security with all the rescinded offers this year
@worthy spear jeez that is incredible 😨
so trying to extend my deadline to fit in phone screens is worth it? part of me feels like if companies r recruiting rn they’re not as high-risk for rescinding offers before spring but who knows
depends if u want to do more fin tech in the future or not
@tiny oak I've heard lots of engineers in the Google NYC office are ex-Bloomberg. But yea if someone wants to stay in fintech then having the Bloomberg experience probably helps.
@tidal grotto btw have you already tried negotiating comp for bloomberg?
Who has done nuro phone call?
i have
Has anyone given OCI interview for IC2 level?
anybody given goldman interview?
tech blogs! bonus points if you say theirs lol
Did anyone do the Neeva Frontend project? Have a couple of doubts..
what the hell was that seven eight capital OA
felt like my stats midterm
probably got a similar score too
Does anyone have any suggestions on where to apply for cleared positions? I know Microsoft and Palantir have postings for new grads so I'm looking for more like that. I'm trying to stay away from old ass defense contractors
did anyone solve the clear street project2?
anyone have any nice leetcode lists for non-premium users? I was looking for any company specific lists, thank you!
@ember scaffold There’s one on GitHub
@formal basalt can you send me a link
@night plume perfect thats exactly what i was looking for
Anyone attended onsite for new grad SWE for Microsoft? Pls hit me up
?_? if you want information you gotta go out looking for it lol, no one is going to come to you
Does anyone know if Square is gonna open up new grad roles?
@spring verge no 😦
@wind acorn as in they're not going to, or you're not sure haha
delay graduation to december
get internship
don't get a return offer due to headcount
wait until new grad roles open back up
@wind acorn I'm also dec graduation - when are you "supposed" to start doing new grad apps?
@lofty cloak that's a good question
maybe just entry level positions? i think the diff in new grad pipeline is that you don't start for like >6 months
Has anyone done SAP technical interview before?
Do I need to prepare leetcode questions are general knowledge?
for SVNT program
I got LC and OOD
I got LC and OOD
@patent cloak Did u apply for backend developer? and how was the difficulty?
I high key feel like Cloudflare's newgrad project is a scheme to get a bunch of people using their technology
and they actually haven't done any resume screening and aren't going to accept anybody
that the main purpose is just to boost their usage numbers

unrealted, but I feel like a really easy way to weed out candidates
is to see who forked the project to a public github repo
can i put Cloudflare under skills on my resume after doing their OA lmao
Anyone interviewed for Itential.
Did anyone interview for Rivian?
@hoary scaffold I did full stack. Mine was on the easier end of medium difficulty
ugh i don't want to do clear streets project
there's like no info on their salary either
so idk if its worth my time attempting
does anyone know their comp
has any one done Didi labs' OA?
Did anyone have the Roblox or Bloomberg technical?
@supple fjord had both what are ur questions?
what was the avg difficulty and was there dp? LOL
roblox: 2 video interviews, both medium difficulty, no dp (string/arrays)
bb: no DP had string/dfs questions
1st phone: 2 mediums
1st tech: 2 mediums
2nd tech: 1 easy 1 med
no prob good luck! for bb make sure you talk about ur thought process
solved all q, but didnt get past 2nd tech
they baited me by starting with the LC easy in that last tech, but grilled me a lot on the thought process LOL
oof thats scary
honestly these will be the 2 and 3rd leetcode styled technicals i would have done in my life so if they grill me idk what i would even say oops
yeah i think i just got unlucky, cus ive done the LC easy q before, but said the sol wasnt good enough even though it was the most optimized..
you shoulda asked them to implement the best solution when they ask you if you have any questions for them
ig being snarky is one way to fail an interview lol
Anyone have a Wish virtual onsite?
What is Clear street's project? just curious
when u guys cold email do you send it to like just 1 recruiter or a bunch?
What is Clear street's project? just curious
@vocal carbon full application order book.. havent opened it yet tho
anyone have 0 offers still?
waiting on roblox onsite response 
gl
^nope
Should I put my current internship on resume if I just started last month? Haven't really done much yet lol
if you can talk about that exp in an interview, then yea
^
@tiny wedge Roblox is yet to finish processing their onsites, so nobody will get responses yet
honestly a callback would be nice but i wouldn’t lose sleep of they didn’t 😅
was not a fan of both interviewers
lmao yea that might be a bit of a stretch
i ended up adding it, need to get jobs before i graduate in december lol
Anyone interviewed for wepay?
@hybrid plover share the job link?
IMC quant trader interview anyone?
err on the safer sude
side
even if you're a bit overdressed they'll get it since you're interviewing
Just wear like a polo or something. Nothing crazy
dont show up in their competitor's tshirt 🙂
i almost showed up to an interview wearing another company's tshirt LMAO
I almost emailed my recruiter with the wrong company name once
I've also forgotten the name of the company I was interviewing for during the interview
it'd probably be fine anyways
it's more about ur mannerisms
just remember to like smile and be polite
don't be like a silent weirdo
gl
Also don't just keep talking lol. I've seen many people (including me) start talking about the solution to early without clarifying anything with the interviewer. Always clarify and make sure you know what you're saying. Coz if you blabber they'd throw a "why" at you any time
i think people have an obsession about talking through their answer...i dunno if u guys have ever done mocks with ur friends.. but it's hard to keep track when the interviewee is mumbling some random calculations and stuff
So do you guys suggest thinking for few minutes in silence?
@rocky zinc If you really need to, communicate that with your interviewer so s/he's just not starting at you silently thinking and making the whole interview awkward
I feel talking without thinking affects your performance
As in even thinking for 2mins might help
Especially when you're thrown new shit
mhmh I agree, but imagine the interviewer that asks you the question to which the interviewee is just quiet for 2 minutes.
The interviewer doesn't know what's going on in your head, you could be panicking or you could be processing how you're going to attack the problem.
Simply telling the interviewer like "Hey, mind if I think about this for 2 minutes?" would make a big difference and not make the interview awkward
@rocky zinc this is what I do everytime without fail:
After interviewer talks through the question i say:
Ok cool. I'm just gonna take a few minutes to read the question again and write some ideas down on paper. When I have a better understanding of the problem I'll talk it through with you.
And they always gladly say ok. I think they like it too cos it gives them a few minutes to write stuff down themselves
@rocky zinc this is what I do everytime without fail:
After interviewer talks through the question i say:
Ok cool. I'm just gonna take a few minutes to read the question again and write some ideas down on paper. When I have a better understanding of the problem I'll talk it through with you.
And they always gladly say ok. I think they like it too cos it gives them a few minutes to write stuff down themselves
@rocky spoke yeah that totally makes sense. Thanks!
I think my interviewer was watching a video as I was coding and didn't know I could hear it
Thought it was background but it was real quiet when it ended and I was asking him questions
Also anyone who has done live interview on CodeSignal, have you gotten just randomly dropped, happened to me like 3 times over 45 min
I just absolutely bombed hrt phone screen.
F
how long after submitting bloomberg app did you hear back about phone
@wind acorn 5ish weeks for me
I just absolutely bombed hrt phone screen.
@livid roost did they ask you some extremely specific thing about C++ cuz same
no it was actually just probability questions. I should've done way better.
like brainteasers?
where are yall finding job listsings to apply to?
im using indeed and glassdoor rn
but any other good resources?
Hi guys!!! Is there anyone that got rejected from the VMware onsite that I can PM??

like brainteasers?
@tiny oak more application of expectation and CLT and stuff
hi, what are some good questions to ask after an interview 🤔
anyone got advice for 4-5 hr onsite interviews? i've never actually had onsites so idk how to best handle the long duration and multiple interviews
coffee
ye
four loko
anyone got advice for 4-5 hr onsite interviews? i've never actually had onsites so idk how to best handle the long duration and multiple interviews
@sly nebula get good sleep and try to keep good mental, take the rest of the day off
monster zero ultra fiesta god tier
redbull ewww
if you say get a lc question that you recognize or that is easy, should you try to "waste" time by going super in depth into it, showing different approaches and stuff, or should you try to complete it in reasonable amount of time (maybe like, 15 minutes) to allow the interviewer to ask more questions?
Waste time
Does anyone have any advice for two sigma final rounds?
if you say get a lc question that you recognize or that is easy, should you try to "waste" time by going super in depth into it, showing different approaches and stuff, or should you try to complete it in reasonable amount of time (maybe like, 15 minutes) to allow the interviewer to ask more questions?
@tiny oak if you get a question you seen before don't ask them to change it. Just go into detail
complete it and go for the 2nd question
@trim bridge dm me!
anyone hear from roblox today?
I have my final on wednesday
@orchid ibex you scheduled today?
for new grad? were you part of the batch that did technical onsites oct5-16? @orchid ibex
@eager glacier they can. you can send them a retracted screenshot of the offer letter. if u dont wanna send em anything just tell them the other offer was verbal. generally u dont wanna be negotiating with a lie of an offer, good recruiters can smell that bs a mile away
thanks for the advice yall :)
yo guys does SAP SVNT technical only allow java????
How long after a final interview do y’all email to follow up and see when they’ll decide by?
Is there a channel/group/subreddit for referrals?
For those that have tried negotiating, did the recruiters ask for competing offer letters?
@eager glacier has never happened to me, that would be really awkward so idt recruiters ever do that
I was told by a company I would hear back about my candidacy by Oct 16th. I had my final round Oct 2nd. Anyone have any advice on how to reach out for an update ?
Anyone interviewed for NextDoor?
@near finch was this Disney? I’m also ghosted lol
Yep @flint halo
I read on blind someone mentioned Disney tech just went on a hiring freeze Oct 1st 😓
hmm I had my interview after that and I straight up asked him “are you guys still hiring given the current economic situation”
and he said streaming is still hiring??
Have my first "onsite" for the season tomorrow...will be fun 🙄
but they did just announce a reorg so idk
yo guys does SAP SVNT technical only allow java????
@ornate charm for the 1 hr technical or OA? I don't have Java on my resume but my interviewer seemed shocked that I didn't know it and was disinterested after that 😦
@flint halo
HR is probably scrambling, but the hiring freeze sounds like it’s true? I know they went through with intern offers, so I think/hope they’re just reassessing new grad offers.
yeahhh, hopefully we both hear positive news soon 🙂
Anyone done the old mission capital coding challenge? How was the difficulty level?
roblox responded to me after emailing them about my offer deadline, they replied back asking for my grad date, will keep u guys updated
@flint halo just heard back, unfortunately rejected >_>
Anyone done Databricks technical phone?
✋
I think it went ok. a few minutes on resume and then a variation + several follow ups of an easier LC hard
interviewer was really nice too 🙂
that's nice! Gosh I need to prep more haha
good luck!
@near finch I just got the L too, which is confusing bc I thought I did well 🤔
@worthy spear most masters programs exists to make $$$ for the school
So that makes 4 of us!!! @flint halo
I chatted with two other people who thought they did really well. Very curious about how much the hiring freeze affected these new grad candidates now 👀
yeah, my instinct is that they must have cut back on new grads (at least for bachelors)
which is kind of crazy bc they’re only hiring through conferences rn right?
Yep!! They were only hiring thru conferences, I’m super curious to know who might have gotten an offer! Oh well, the search continues 🔭
in the end I think it’s better to not get an offer than have it rescinded if it’s really due to money—and if it’s not they’re losing out on good engineers lol
@ornate charm for the 1 hr technical or OA? I don't have Java on my resume but my interviewer seemed shocked that I didn't know it and was disinterested after that 😦
@supple fjord damn what role did you interview for
Yeah true @flint halo
Im wondering what the spring will bring...very curious as to what Expedia’s plan is. They’ve been hiring new grads and interns but travel industry isn’t doing too hot. 💭
And they spent millions on a new office recently in Seattle that is completely empty lol!!
Can people share their experience with Bloomberg phone interview (round 1) please?
@near finch yeah that’s a bit 🤔🤔 considering even Google and FB are on hiring freeze for new grads
Does HubSpot call to reject after onsite?
Anyone did phone screen on Amazon chime?
@worthy spear 1 question from the leetcode Bloomberg tagged questions
Does HubSpot call to reject after onsite?
@wind acorn If they do, never heard of it. Have lots of friends at hubspot and know some seniors eng there so I have a decent sample size.
so congrats?
@dry epoch what do your friends think of the work there?
so congrats?
@dry epoch bruh pls no jinx lmao
for new grad generally pretty good, the hours I think are probably 40-50 but the office has tons of perks
all the seniors eng I know used wfh a lot and seemed pretty chill
I'm assuming hubspot boston?
though I've heard hubspot dublin actually has better wlb
Yeah HubSpot Boston
my uni is in Boston, and hubspot hires tons of our grads, nobody I've talked to has said bad things about the wlb (just that the company is a bit culty)
huspot is a great company!
hubspot*
But Boston is a bit expensive city and pretty cold during the winter
I always get straight up rejects from HubSpot.
Wait, do they hire international students?
they do, but not for new grad now
my friend is intl and he got an internship at hubspot last summer which he converted to FT
I got 36/42 test cases on Amazon OA 2 do you think I'll get rejected?
That’s good enough if u have solid OA3 results that they like
Cool ty
Roblox recruiter just called me they’re scheduling final rounds for next week
Like the behavioral ones?
Yeah I believe so, she said final round is next week
😮
But she didn’t say what type of interviews
Time to get rejected
But I assume it’s behavioral
Roblox recruiter just called me they’re scheduling final rounds for next week
@real prism was that after completing your oa?
It was after virtual onsite

