#2021_grads
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tech was basically resume grilling about ur technologies, asking cs trivia, and 2 lc questions but you talk through it instead of coding
behavior was just 45 min of "tell me a time"
like i have a good amount of technologies and languages i'm familiar with so i don't get screened out lmao
i had databases on mine, so they asked about ACID, which i forgot
ok good to know still waiting on a response they said either tmmrw or wednesday
yea be prepared for random trivia
dont really know how to prepare for that part LOL but yea
was there webcam or was it just phone?
anyone do final w jpmc? what was it like?
@tiny oak how long did you hear back after finishing the hirevue?
took hirevue sept 28th recruiter said they're sending out updates tmmrw or wednesday
it's location based though
after u take hirevue they send u a questionnaire and your app ONLY gets sent to the location you selected
so it differs
dm @feral marten !salary new grad
how do you write email asking about update after final round?
@tiny oak what location did u do
tampa
Unable to locate data on New Grad
was there webcam or was it just phone?
@tiny oak it was through zoom 2 interviewes each
@real prism ty!
That oof moment when you took hirevue for JPM at the end of August and heard nothin back :{
Does uber have any new grad positions?
dw bro im prob being rejected anyways just wanted to ask lmao
I couldn't find any on their website
they don't specifically say new grad pretty sure @worthy spear
but i think some of them dont specify exp required
hmm is it too late to apply to places like uber tho ?
I mean worst case you get rejected
so it's the same result as not applying
and each app takes like 5 min unless it's some workday taleo crap
i know for uber i applied to like 4 diff positions and it made me do entire app all 4 times which was fun
has anyone here worked in any of the amazon los angeles offices?
why is it too late? They've filled all positions already?
I got a verbal conversion offer from my internship today š„²
Will post TC when I get the offer letter in-hand
Congrats!
Congrats!
@stone monolith where at?
Workiva
p small company, just super happy to have gotten a conversion offer
Thanks everyone
heck yeah we take those!
@stone monolith huge!!! congrats
how long does it usually take to hear back from twilio and citrix after OA?
Twilio just "waitlisted" everyone so don't count on that
Citrix took me like 2-3 weeks
2 weeks + 1 day*
dry inbox day
That just means Twilio is done hiring for this year? @arctic drift
like not officially but they sent everyone jumpstart messages saying that they did well on the hackerrank but they don't have any open interview slots for now
what's everyone's linux proficiency? just did a server troubleshooting interview and i feel like i was expected to know off the top of my head about cron, bash type command, setuid, lsof, /proc/sys/fs/file-max -- is most of this common knowledge??
^ and a bit more but basically
Anyone know how long to get feedback after amazon OA3?
65 votes and 74 comments so far on Reddit
What does under consideration mean for Amazon?
I've heard that UCF is the MIT of central florida
i heard that mit is the ucf of Boston
@main rapids i think that's decently standard
ucf natty champs baby
def best cs program in florida, idk about it being a target school though
how long to hear back from databricks after OA?
@copper fractal it means you are being considered
Obvs 
Like it changed from submitted to under consid so I thought that either means im passed the resume screen or something else?
Mines been under consideration since Sept 30th
@main rapids i think that's decently standard
@grave gull did you learn linux sysadmin from a book or a course?
@main rapids i think that's decently standard
@grave gull really? like for SWEs with some full-time experience maybe, but idt interns/new grads know about this stuff usually right
as an intern the most linux-y thing I've had to do is write some sed/awk script to rename files and namespaces in a c++ project
so this stuff right cron, bash type command, setuid, lsof, /proc/sys/fs/file-max
setuid and /proc/sys stuff was covered in my OS class
cron/lsof/bash stuff was covered in a class on software tools at my uni
yeah for general SWE probably over the top for the general new grad, but i think that's all fair game for a server troubleshooting interview a la SRE/fb prod eng
@digital carbon @grave gull it was a linux consulting shop that advertised a new grad role
a Linux solutions consulting role
ah ok, well that sounds like fair game then. not common for general swe stuff though
yeah, i wasn't too sure what to expect, my interviewer was a 30-year linux veteran who started with slackware lol
he was kind enough to hold my hand throughout but i didn't really expect to need to know that much stuff
well, rip i guess :/
Unable to locate data on Citrix
What does under consideration mean for Amazon?
@copper fractal That probably means your application is being looked at and you may receive OA soon
Is there anyone who got a reject after the Amazon final?
is it weird to ask the recruiter what type of interview it is going to be?
system design/hackerrank/debugging?
ah ok ty
im panicking like if the interviews end up having system design
im like oh boy ive never touched that b4
hm okay. i still want to prepare as much as I can
I'll send the email first and go from there
thanks hazel!
i just did the guaranteed amount
idk why TC is there anywho its a bad metric
bonus is prorated anyways
Can anyone please share after how many days of their final Bloomberg onsite with the senior engineer, they have received the decision?
@stray condor jw if you had 1 or 2 technical onsites for bb, i only have 1 tech scheduled and was wondering if it was normal lately
or if maybe they are scheduled on separate days now
8 days
Anyone know neeva's salary?
Anyone know neeva's salary?
@snow canopy contemplating whether its worth to do the OA?
got an OA after ages, i might ask for an extension...
Yes exactly @shadow cedar lmfaooo
doing the oa will also normalize these long ass projects over 60minute leetcode oa's
yeah, In order to receive rejection, we must do its OA
If the salary isn't worth i do not want to go through their process
can we mail the rec to get a hackerrank instead? does that work?
seems very time consuming
I can't seem to find anything on glassdoor, probably because its a very new company
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heya, any experiences with DRW?
Im not sure this big ass OA will be worth to recieve the rejection email
@wet creek my friend spent a few days on the text editor thing, sent it in, and got rejected the day after
ouch
heya, any experiences with DRW?
@worthy spear what's up
has anyone interviewed with Gelber group?
Hi guys, how hard is Qualtrics technical interview? Do they ask LC medium or hard?
Lc medium
i know some bigger companies plan to open spring semester apps
once their intern conversion HC is finalized
@autumn lynx Yea, I can feel my demand
@unkempt echo Companies like?
G is somewhat confirmed to open Jan, Fb might open
G opens jan

tfw the season is slowing down and u still don't have any finals
Is there a deadline to finish hirevue coding interview?
once you get the invitation email
Thanks how was the hirevue questions for jp?
Thanks! good luck on your final interviews!
@mental frigate nuro, 2 sigma
rip these people getting DRW offers I had final on thursday presumably im fked if I haven't heard back
though mine is for intern, grats to people who got it
citadel 400k compensation
@iron gate does anyone know if this was a return offer?
just wondering bc this is a bit higher than my friendās quant research offer (return intern offer) š®
maybe they negotiated?
rip these people getting DRW offers I had final on thursday presumably im fked if I havenāt heard back
@little creek where are people getting offers lmao
I just searched "drw" in the chat and saw someone mark it
since I'm losing my mind lmao
yea it was all from last week
Hi, It had been 4 weeks since I wrote Goldman sachs hackerrank test. The status is still 'hackerrank completed' unlike my other friends who got application rejected and only one completed HireVue . Any info on same?
They are slow
@iron gate does anyone know if this was a return offer?
@kind condor this was negotiated external new grad offer
My application for Amazon is under consideration from like 3-4 weeks.
Does that mean they are ghosting me?
I've been under consideration for like almost 2 months now
My application for Amazon is under consideration from like 3-4 weeks.
Does that mean they are ghosting me?
@near forge rocking on the same boat
I'm at application submitted for 2 months now
Has anyone done the Akuna capital data infra final round?
for those of you that accepted offers already, what are yall doing once google opens up its new grad apps? and what if you got in?
@jaunty oyster not applying to google
Google is not the end all be all :)
u have to stop simping for google internships. their process literally takes 7 months to complete and u have to reinterview for fulltime even after u just spent 4 months interning. there are plenty of other really cool tech companies that are in silicon valley. widen ur horizon
i mean tbh if you sign and you'd take google over what you signed just renege
companies dont give a fuck about u and that's the tea so there's no problem reneging lol
omg tru
but i need to work at a FAANG so I can post about it on linkedin 4 times
I need to work at a FAANG so I can quit and do my 28 video youtube series about why I quit FAANG and how my life is much better while asking people to subscribe to my patreon for other life tips
are u even doing tech right if u dont have ex-FAANG in your linkedin headline
Reminds me of that 10x intern on LinkedIn who made ranks.fyi or something
anyone here do roblox onsite recently?
Ranks.fyi was such a joke
Does CodeSignal do regular hackerrank type OAs? I'm setting up an SIG interview and they said I'll need to complete a CodeSignal before the interview which is "not a right or wrong type of test" and "just a starting point for the interview" ??
@rain jewel codesignal is 4 questions and they score off time as much as code completion/test cases
I've taken the regular CodeSignal OA. It just seemed really weird to make someone take it right before a scheduled interview. So, I was wondering if there was a different type of OA. I guess that's just how they do it tho
Anyone know if itās possible to change location for JPMorgan ? I just got invited for the virtual interview, it says placement in OH. Is it possible to change this or is it too late?
I don't think so, did you fill out the survey after the hirevue @snow canopy
they like only send your info to the one location you select, I don't know if you can change it, maybe email the recruiting email
Anybody have experience with MITRE this cycle?
you might be able to get a location change when you get an offer, I did that as an intern but it takes some extra steps and time. Switching locations is not guaranteed so don't count on it, it's also very hard to get into ny/chicago/sf since their headcount is smaller if you've got those locations in mind, the others are usually easier to get into@snow canopy
I got a systems design interview in a couple hours, can anyone recommend a crash course? Am I fked if I just enter without having done one of these at all?
grokking the system design interview, I haven't used it yet for interviews but i've heard it's the standard and that most problems are variants of one-another
I think it might be? I know there's a course for it online and maybe also some free vids
I got a systems design interview in a couple hours, can anyone recommend a crash course? Am I fked if I just enter without having done one of these at all?
@worthy spear https://towardsdatascience.com/the-complete-guide-to-the-system-design-interview-ba118f48bdfc
one of my fav reads for basic system design
thank you š
does anyone know if the citadel salary figures floated here are correct? 400k total comp is wayyyyy off what I know people make at similar companies. is there any verificiation?
thats someone's specific offer after negotiation afaik, the average is a bit lower
yeah i feel like thats a typo lmao
sure, but the average of people I know are correct is around 250k
I trust them wayyy more than these seemily unverified figures
the citadel numbers on this server are verified
what is the process for verification? they have to send offer letters?
no in the case of the citadel offer i know the person personally
in a perfect world the offer letter verification would be nice but this is just a discord server at the end of the day
you can decide to not trust it, its your own volition
150k signing wild im guessing its over a year or 2
it is a pretty special case tho
so if you end up getting a citadel offer, don't go in expecting to get that much
you can maybe negotiate up to it, but i wouldn't push any guarantees
perhaps im overly skeptical, but do you know this person outside of this server?
yea
ok, nice
seems pretty weird that they have 100k+ swings in entry level comps
like damn lol
congrats to that guy
tech is in a bubble
yeah i feel like their entry level is a lot diff than other entry levels
trading/hedge fund shit is in more of a bubble
theyre legit paying interns $20k/month lol
ye
tfw interns making more than new grad in FAANG
^^^
real american psycho hours
Capital one resume reject after referral O.o
Has anyone done Microsoft new grad this season?? Anyone know what difficulty the Codility phone screens are??
@ornate charm same
anyone bloomberg system design questions pls?
Does any know what is the interview process of Roivant?
150k signing wild im guessing its over a year or 2
@tiny oak the 150k is disbursed as two separate payments of 75k both at the end of the first pay period
Anyone got Twilio summer intern OA? I have applied to fulltime and got both fulltime and intern OAs lol
~30-40% but you should get some back from tax returns. They're usually withheld at a higher rate
I wonāt get mine until my first pay check
I mean itās taxes
@unkempt echo Is the signing bonus prorated if you leave before a year is up?
What if youre in a 0% income tax location
no i think you pay back the full gross amount if you leave before a year is up
so post taxes
Ah I see, thanks
careful though
you'll not liekly get a refund from taxes
i mean you could
but not soon enough
How many weeks ( or days?) in advance do you all start moving in to a new place before work starts
i read online that you should start looking for apartment 2 months out
i personally would like a solid week in teh city before
gotta like get some furniture before i get slogged w wokr
Oof yeah, hopefully prices stay (relatively) low throughout the year
Also, how long of a lease are you guys comfortable signing with
i think i want to sign max 1 year lease early on
you might be able to lower ur rate by doing like a 15mo
more 'free months'
it's probably a good idea to visit the city a few months early if u got th etiem
i prob would go check out city and stuff like beforehand
your company might even pay for it
ik someone, signed fb intern offer, then they flew her out just for a tour
plus on-sites are technically supposed to be in person and they fly u out for them
until covid hit
@high thunder Was it just that one case, or does fb do that for people who request it?
idk
FB does that for most interns, it's called preview day
just ask
Oh oops yeah the preview day, misread it as new grad
i bet if corona permits, some companies might fly u out closer to start date just for fun
Fb new grads is mostly returns rn
citadel did a bubble this summer for their interns lmao - i'm pretty sure they'd be happy to fly you out
i know jpm nyc went back to voluntary in person
External may come but don't count on it
the recruiter said she's the only one on her floor lmao
@grave gull ya thats epic
i think 100% for fb new grad? ik exactly 0 ppl who got external interview this year and recruiters say there's E3 freeze
Yeah
rip
Anyone taken door dash final round?
im not looking at apartments seriouisly until im in sf lol
shit moves way too fast
Where will u stay @cerulean pivot
whats paper money??
rsu's for pre-ipo companies
ooh thanks
rsu's for pre-ipo companies
@high thunder what happens when you leave such companies before ipo any idea?
Do companies usually ask OS, Networking or OOP questions? Or is it mostly just Leetcode styled questions or System design?
i've been asked OOP
I would say OOP is most common out of those topics
yup
anyone taken ebay final round?
Ohh like different patterns and stuff like that?
Ohh cool
Anybody take Amazon Final round? (three interviews)
@ornate charm ya
yep (one interview)
For anyone thatās done the clear street oa, how was it?
i took it yesterday 2 easy and 1 medium, 1 medium - hardish
@real root
pretty similar to code signal general assessment but i thought a little harder
but i think the questions are random
did you auto receive next step (the project)?
i still haven't done it prob should soon to show engagement lmao
Anyone got interview tips for Fannie Mae entry level SWE? Already looked at Glassdoor but would like more tips.
anyone know Duolingo's interview process? how many interviews are there?
Can I know what coding question do y'all get on amazon onsite?
has anyone taken the Epic Systems skills assessment test?
does it actually take 4 hours to complete?
Does not getting Bloomberg Final 2 days after phone imply a rejection?
ff s
did you auto receive next step (the project)?
@tiny oak yea i did
they said theyre gonna send it next week
For those who finished Amazon OA, does the status change to Under Review on Amazon University?
@rose rivet intern or full time?
full time
I did the intern one in the past and it was honestly the worst interview experience of my life
They pay someone overseas to watch you while you write your code (they arent like an interviewer they just watch)
And if you lean to far off camera they yell at you
*too
yeah, it doesn't seem worth it
Definitely funny looking back, but super not enjoyable during the 3-4 hour interview
Anyone have a opinions/suggestions for the easiest companies to get into that pay over $100k+ to new grads (not easy, just easiest)
The discrepancy in pay between Big N / Quant and average software roles is crazy
i feel like easy will always be kind of subjective due to resume filter
difficulty is variable so theres no real easiest company
like look at amazon last yr vs this yr
c1 asked greedy coin change and some other easy as well going through literal if statements, mostly behavioral and some case study, they start off 100k+
intern and full-time interviews were the same at least for last year, pay is also either the same or close to the same for both too
Thanks for the responses. I get that the question is completely subjective, just curious about opinions
c1 = capital one?
yeah, capital one
barclays was p easy and its 100k on east coast
I have had a few final rounds where I barely didnt get the job for some 120k+ jobs but I cant seem to get any offers past 80k. It feels frustrating and random this year
this year has definitely been a lot harder, lots of places are pushing off recruiting or hiring at fractions of what they would normally
I feel though, I'm in that same area as well. I'm thinking worst-case we'll have a better shot after our first job in 1-2 years
I hope so but I worry that there are so many people in this boat we will have to compete against them and also the new graduating classes
The grind never ends
80k is still more than the median family income in the US
Its frustrating because 80k is a killer salary for a new grad by every stretch of the imagination
Yeah I was about to say that
It is hard not to compare though
I need to get better at that
if you want to increase your TC you can jump after two years and then youāll be clear of all the new grads
Especially when you barely miss out on offers that pay double
if you made a big N salary, would you be thinking about quant salary?
I hope to always look for the next experience and next opportunity but there is this feeling of failure for not getting to a big N
I feel that completely, I'm definitely worried about career progression and having flexibility for working for some cool places/locations
how do you jump from swe to quant?
i thought its like a totally different field
ahh I was referring to swe @ those firms but tbh Iām sure some people made that jump
ooh okay
SWE roles at quant companies can be ridiculous (whole other ball park of salary ranges)
what helped me stop comparing myself to others was deleting social media (including ignoring the social part of LinkedIn)
and really asking myself how I wanted to define success
also this year itās super super hard wrt recruiting
F and G arenāt even recruiting new grad (yet?), amzn mass rejected people a while back
Yeah I somehow managed to get a Google referral and they don't even have jobs posted 
@flint halo Thanks for the comments though, I definitely need to take some time to refocus
I feel, Microsoft has been my top company for awhile and I think I'll always have it in mind until I get there
For people whoāve had recruiters schedule calls after final rounds: is there usually a hint in the email that itās good news? Received a very bland email to schedule a chat and trying to prep myself
how bland?
āDo you have time tomorrow to have a quick call to discuss interview feedback?ā bland
hmm
i'd say don't expect anything. it could be good could be bad. either way you'll find out tomorrow. dont worry about
it
^
has anyone done final round interviews for DE Shaw rotational associate?
Anybody do neeva's phone interview?
@midnight harbor normally companies don't give you feedback on interviews if you fail so it could be something good š but don't worry about it
Anybody do neeva's phone interview?
@dark thistle the first one?
Yes, the one hour one not the on-site
I suppose Iām just wondering whether itās more behavioral or technical so I know what to expect
its technical. depends on which project u built
but they will ask u about resume and stuff too
wait I just realized you said neeva lmfao nvm fuck that
I didn't touch that project
neeva interview harder than nuro according to someone i know
and nuro was the hardest thing i had to do comparing with other big unicorns
anyone know what in review means for twitter LOL
anyone knows if roblox virtual onsite is the final round?
is it similar to under consideration or is it just they seen your resume
@languid plaza theres non technical round after
@tidal lynx is it just a behavioral?
no idea
gotta say tho compared to the OA virtual onsite was ez
the last question on my OA was one of the hardest problems I had ever seen
gotta say tho compared to the OA virtual onsite was ez
@languid plaza I can second this, roblox virtual onsite was pretty easy compared to the oa
@devout bobcat I think it's the latter, I've been rejected after that once
Aight thanks!
We're talking about smartrecruiters right?
yeah
I haven't heard back from databricks after I sent in codesignal 2 weeks ago and i have an offer expiring in 2 weeks, should i just email them?
anyone got a notification from smartrecruiters about twitter viewing your profile>
?
okay @devout bobcat got it :p
i got it too @true folio
@midnight harbor that's usually a very good sign
I haven't heard back from databricks after I sent in codesignal 2 weeks ago and i have an offer expiring in 2 weeks, should i just email them?
@rancid otter Yep. I emailed them 2 Fridays ago and got a recruiter screen scheduled the Monday immediately following.
@vapid river I thought so originally but itās with a company that calls to reject so canāt be sure
But ty anyway I appreciate everyoneās insights! fingers crossed
@true folio same, I also got it last year for intern but got ghosted
@dry epoch @languid plaza can I ask what onsite for roblox was like
Easy lol 2 LC mediums
Good luck lol
has anyone done the pinterest karat OA?
@arctic drift 2 LC mediums, but untagged from leetcode
I think all the Twitter thing means is that theyāre reviewing ur application. That could be a bad thing or a good thing
I think last year what ended up happening was I got that notification, they sent a hackerrank a few weeks after with a deadline of 4-5 months in march, and they interviewed feb/march and finalized in april
Definitely better to have it reviewed now than alter tho
Yeah I got the hackerrank after getting the review last year. But thereās no OA this year
oh what
roblox doing final rounds on week of 10/20 btw
wait i thought final was just onsite?
is there more than just the onsite?
- behavioral?
i think behaviorals are after onsite but recruiter didnt specify
just said "final interviews"
wait so I'm assuming the behaviorals are 10/20
wth that's so late :(
did you get that from a recruiter?
"final interviews" is apparently team matching + C-level calls
c-level?
@tranquil relic how long did it take you to hear back after technical onsite?
i havent heard anything about whether i passed, just when final would be if i did @silver halo
@sharp lichen and yeah got this from recruiter cause i messaged her about deadline
as in you interview with the CTO and stuff @cursive loom
that scared me cause my pea brain thought i would have to know C or something
gotcha lmao
i thought what bryan thought tooo
i was like fuck
gotta crack open my CS 350 code
tfw writing C code is scarier than talking to a CTO
C code alpha should do all the tech interviews it in
they'll promote you straight to sr swe
hackerrank should provide x86 assembly as one of its languages
@sharp lichen just do the famous sign and renege š
always sign and renege
why can't it be 2014 and the hardest lc question you get is buy and sell stock
and climbing stairs
cd?
with cooldown
its my fav lc
well its similar to a couple others bc its just kadanes algorithm
but i think its a great example of what a technical interview question should be
because its practical and u can explain it well in words
yeah good ol days
just hopping on xbox after school
also prob back when amazon actually gets u interviews
@sinful meadow it's not now?
ghost bananas is rads brand
How far should we go with the onboarding process if we're doing sign and renege? I have received tax forms rn
just š»
I'd say fill out the forms, worst case scenario other company doesn't extend an offer
"after"
zoom u is 24/7
imagine attending virtual lecture
online lecture is great background music for me while making breakfast
lofi hip hop data structures and algorithms
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@tranquil relic im not reneging google haha
Guys did anyone get an update from twitter?
after looking at the #2021_grad_process , does anybody feel like left out? like no OA, no phone, only rejects!
anyone get the red balloon security python project?
arent they the company that sends a physical project lol
sends HDD
Does two sigma drug test asking for a friend
Nah I got an encrypted folder with a python project and a puzzle nothing physical
need a !drugtest bot
Has anyone heard back from cloudflare?
anyone get this email from twitter for the apm role?
yup
Yes lol
is this for nuro by any chance
Nah
Is it generally a good sign if the recruiter wants to schedule a phone call w/ the hiring manager after an onsite? I spoke to this hiring manager during my onsite again but am weirded out that it's a phone call not a zoom hmm
@wind acorn good sign. act like ur simping for the company and the job is yours
i LoVe YoUr CoMpAnY's CuLtUrE
not a typo
biden: "no one making less than 400k will pay more in taxes" citadel interns: 
anyone get this email from twitter for the apm role?
@whole plover yup
Also the 'your application to Twitter was viewed' from smart recruiters
I have a final round(s) today, god, how do you guys deal with the pre interview jitters š
unironically drink some alcohol
interviews are like first dates
not promoting alcoholism though drink responsibly!!
Down the bottle
And when your interviewer asks you to reverse a Linked List flip your monitor upside down
trying to decide, amazon vs doordash vs bloomberg. Anyone have opinions? I'm very conflicted
locations ?
trying to decide, amazon vs doordash vs bloomberg. Anyone have opinions? I'm very conflicted
@tidal grotto what are u optimizing for/what are ur values?
Trying to decide on qualtrics vs oracle OCI
Any opinions ?
Oracle pay is more by 40k
location ?
Seattle
For oracle
Seattle or provo for qualtrics I think
Tho I think they might only give me provo as a choice idk
what is provo
Provo Utah lmao
Yee
does qualtrics negotiate/can you get them to give you 100% Seattle guarantee?
like Iām actually a pretty big fan of Utah in general but itās not for everyone
Not sure I have recruiter call today
Iāll ask then
Iām kinda leaning towards oracle OCI cuz pay and cuz I hear they r middle of building cloud service from bottom up so a lot of new cool things to be done
And also oracle just got tik tok
So maybe more opportunities / stability ?
Lol yea most of my interviews were ex amazon and they said one thing they liked was the wlb
But I guess thatās in comparison to amazon
I have a call scheduled with a startup. Is it ok to ask what questions I will be asked prior to the call?
I always ask what I need to "brush up on" if I'm being tested
Has anyone had experience with the Palantir on site and know what level of technical questions they ask?
trying to decide, amazon vs doordash vs bloomberg. Anyone have opinions? I'm very conflicted
@tidal grotto locations? and what are you optimizing for
bro fuck neeva. im never doing another take home again.
didnt even send me feedback but im p sure they got like 10 employees
yeah
i just didnt do it
no coding takehome is worth
cuz neeva's was already super optimized as it is
courtesy of python slicing operators
no yea but in place is faster no
bc you're only copying so much at a time
or pasting
might be, but i think ppl needed to do cython to get it marginally faster
if at all
hm yea i just said it would be theoretically faster
and i fucking implemented redo/undo
im posting my solution on github fuck these guys
Oracle pay is more by 40k
@night plume you got your answer then
Anyone taken the 30 minute first round Microsoft phone interview? What can I expect?
@uncut zenith lollll
does anyone know what is asked in a culture interview
ahhh thanks!
Choosing between Google and DoorDash at the moment... anyone have any input as to which is better for new grad? I heard DoorDash has really good career growth
Iām assuming doordash is also covered under prop 22?
if it is idk about job security but also Iām very risk-averse
^^^^
if you dont mind the red tape and stuff that comes with big tech, i'd say google is probably better at the moment
Isn't career growth at Google good too anyway? I thought the process of getting promoted from L3 -> L4 -> L5 is laid out pretty clearly for the most part. Maybe there's some politics involved, but I think you'd find politics anywhere.
google will be easier to find a job anywhere else after
career growth at google is pretty linear up to L5 - if you want more meritocracy i wouldnt say its the best
certain smaller companies
I will say you will regret later if you pass on google
like fb is more meritocratic
if you don't like at google you can move to other places
it is harder the other way
true
idk maybe it is easier in US
š¤
Putting aside career growth/culture/TC, I'd take google just for the job security. That's only because of the current economic situation
If there wasn't a global pandemic then I might've considered doordash more strongly. But that's just my opinion
i dont necessarily agree with that, i think if you can get google and doordash you can probably get other comparable offers down the line pretty safely
wait
misread what you said
mb
talking about getting laid off not future prospect
I don't disagree with that, but I wouldn't want to constantly stress abiut whether I'm gonna lose my job or not
^ i don't think that is gonna be something to consider tbh
they wouldnt be hiring new grad sif that was going to be a problem in the near future
my 2 brain cells are struggling to keep up sry
talking about getting laid off not future prospect
@unkempt echo yea sorry
Lol ok yea we on the same page
imagine having the luxury to worry about getting fired
can anyone who took doordash final today DM me pls
come get the luxury at amazon
waiting for screening test results š¤
tbh I still think doordash is better in terms of career growth
google >> doordash imo
like in terms of making an impact quickly
but also I have friends who got burned by TripAdvisor last year
I think google is working on more interesting problems
doordash is planning an IPO for Q4 this year, so it probably would've been worth taking over google like a year or two ago
google works on interesting problems but you could also get stuck on internal tools or smth
but Iām assuming @worthy spear is a returning intern so they know their team?
google works on interesting problems but you could also get stuck on internal tools or smth
why not just learn internal tools š©
Anybody here know what to expect from FB phone interview?
hey, can we mention location with job openings in the spreadsheet?
@dark thistle I got interviews with zero personal projects but I have a lot of (non-internship) work and volunteer experience
u also just put Google in resume and instantly become able to go to any company
not true
yea they have 1 round for it
g name isn't as big as you might think
eh maybe if you don't do shit
but like on average i would say a candidate that worked at google and a candidate that worked at unicorn or no name unless no name/unicorn applicant has a bunch of cool stuff
google will get the interview bc recruiters see it and their eyes light up
but I don't have a job so
yea idk
both @old kestrel and i applied to uber last year
he had google on his resume
he got resume rejected, i got the interview
and i had one local company on mine
oh unicorn > google LOL
didn't you have honey tho?
no
100% unicorn > google if you're applying to unicorns
unless you're the 1% who did cool stuff at google
yea i cant think of a unicorn that i couldnt get an interview at this year
except for like
scale
weird flex but ok
i wouldnt be able to pass any of them anyways
i did like 2 problems as prep this year
interesting turn of events
I wouldnāt say unicorns are > FAANG like itās black and white
for some reason recruiters think i like backend stuff
google has nap pods what more does one need
fam ur wfh anyways
but yeah no way google > unicorn for non-faang in the bay
yeah aren't you front end mobile @cerulean pivot
apps to non-faang
but recrutiers were surpised i told them i wanted to do frontend
yeah @cerulean pivot write that dfs for the red text
whats the def of unicorn. is it just a popular startup
Other than like a couple unicorns in SF I canāt think of many others that are better than Google
life is just fulfilling changing text color to red 
Like Databricks and Stripe and maybe a few others
I wouldnāt put Pinterest, Asana, etc over Google
whats the def of unicorn. is it just a popular startup
@autumn lynx I think officially it's any company with a valuation >1B
i think asana is cool place to work at
if the company is still kinda small wouldnt it be more valuable to work there? (i guess a unicorn) rather than a big ass company like google
and rewarding
pinterest asked me for my pinterest account and I linked my mom's account bc she's the only one I know that uses it
you're young so you can take more risks right
its popular among non stem demographic
you're young so you can take more risks right
@autumn lynx hard agree
Yea but how does it make it ābetterā
than if u gotta support a family later on
u definitely will learn more at a startup than u will at google
u will learn more breadth for sure
yea i cant think of a unicorn that i couldnt get an interview at this year
@cerulean pivot toxic
breadboard who are u
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oh figma didnt interview me
@cerulean pivot remember the server rules?
dont you get more responsibility and you have way more opportunity for growth
just pay is prob less
no unicorn pay lots
then why not
u can always make money later in ur career anyways just optimize for ⨠learning ⨠if u have the privilege to
unicorn pay is 100% less lol
I mean I oringallly asked Google or DoorDash lol
Iāll def go to bricks if I get it tho next week interview
its more money in stocks for startups
u can always make money later in ur career anyways just optimize for ⨠learning ⨠if u have the privilege to
@cerulean pivot š
sorry did you mean
paper
anyways why am i still here wtf
i have an interview in 1 minute
dont u have a job
Where at?
looooooooooool
Yea idk do people typically leave this server when they get a job lol
Iāll def go to bricks if I get it tho next week interview
@worthy spear bruh why are you asking about google vs. doordash now then š
hopefully not
Cuz bricks is hard as balls I heard lol
we're working on something FUN to keep people around
subtle flexes everywhere @digital carbon
peculiar boast but alas
Bruh how is getting DoorDash a flex it was literally one interview
MY RECRUITER IS LATE
getting past resume screen is flex
literally getting any job rn is flex tbh
true
@worthy spear I'm jk lol don't take it seriously
doordash is cool
doordasg cares about the school u go to
it all depends on location tc and culture
everyone from my school got an OA
can someone doordash me food rn
it be fucked up sometimes
doordash resume rejected me when i cold applied
@ornate charm berkeley reject
^ isnāt that the point of referrals
@ornate charm berkeley reject
@autumn lynx u go to berk and still got reject?
it's college admissions 2.0
senior
can someone let me know how their 30 min microsoft phone call went pls
dm me neer
do u have past experience on ur resume
msft can be literally anything
can someone let me know how their 30 min microsoft phone call went pls
@ornate charm YEETCODE
and a behavorial questoin
yea internship this summer @ornate charm
ive been getting OA's from a lot of places just Doordash doesnt like me
that is very weird.
dude i cold emailed doordash recruiter a few months ago
i had behavioral hypothetical sys design hypothetical ml pipeline design and a lc easy-med that I didnāt have to actually code
and i had uber eats on my resume
and she did not reply to me lol
i dobule msged
its very odd considering like hundreds of dd ppl are ex uber
i think timing has a lot to do with it
when i cold emailed in the summer
i got way more replies
prob becuz they just have way less emails
i had behavioral hypothetical sys design hypothetical ml pipeline design and a lc easy-med that I didnāt have to actually code
@flint halo for a SWE interview? they asked ml ????
yeah bc I have ml experience
ohh they saw it on ur resume?
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
how was the sys design?
WTF
wat
ah man i hope they just ask me LC bruh
lol I choked
stop promoting ur med acc
the entire interview process
LMAO
the 4th dimension
graphic design is clearly their passion
this interview sucks
wait what the
i want out
the old logo looked so much nicer
where is it
@cerulean pivot damn your articles are popular
lambda can u dm me right quickly?
bro why r u typing on discord during ur interview
yea im an INFLUENCERRRRR
im supposed to read this doc
do u have a mech keyboard
soon to be tiktok influencer
he prob hears
big guy
@cerulean pivot my life is a meme
anyone else did phone with drw and is currently being ghosted?
when u get a microsoft referral, do they email you saying u been referred?
yea
yes to my question?
Do you guys like Cisco?
i like cisco
omg i really don't like Medium's new logo
Do you guys like Cisco?
@thorny mango received an offer from em but idk tbh
@ornate charm yeah trying to figure out if I would enjoy working there too
yes to my question?
@ornate charm yea
@ornate charm yeah trying to figure out if I would enjoy working there too
@thorny mango dm me for more insight
Does anyone know what the 3 hr interview w VMware launch (3 codepairs) is like??? super nervous, i have one this week
Has anyone done the phone interview with Databricks? How many and how difficult are the coding problems?
Does anyone know what the 3 hr interview w VMware launch (3 codepairs) is like??? super nervous, i have one this week
@trim bridge when did they let u know about the interview
i aced that fucking hackerrank and got ghosted
a couple days ago
smh
they're having their last hiring session this week for full time
also emailed a bunch of recruiters nobody responded
i aced that fucking hackerrank and got ghosted
@autumn lynx same lol hackerrank was easy and ghosted
!process Microsoft Ghosted
You can only use this command in 2021_grad_process or 2021_intern_process
@ornate charm @autumn lynx probably cause of when you completed it? they arent scheduling any more interviews this season
@ornate charm @autumn lynx probably cause of when you completed it? they arent scheduling any more interviews this season
@tranquil relic did it in august chief
weird on august but mid sept was prob too late
esp doesnt make sense cause i dont even have good school/internships š„“ just rng game
well they were planning on a hiring event in november but then canceled it
mine was on october and got canceled
Why does twilio have a career posting on my university job site when they aren't even scheduling any interviews 
wasnt yours in like oct 20s~? @visual lagoon
23rd
yea thats weird, afaik they didnt even have like a hiring event/day on the 23rd
Yeah I have been sitting in āmatching phaseā after passing interview for VMware since September 17th š¤
wasn't yours the very first batch? you guys still haven't heard back??
Yup I was first day
youre not the only one apparently. the recruiter even told me that they are looking to hire ~60 ppl so no idea why they havent matched
I mean they rejected people and have handed out some offers
maybe at this point theyre just waiting till the next hiring event is done? still doesnt make sense lol
Yeah idk basically they send resumes to managers once spots open and u gotta be picked so passing interview doesnāt guarantee anything
nice, asking managers to just "pick" based off resume/interview results without ever talking to them
what were your location prefs?
I told Nick anything is good after interview and he said he was giving my info to some people in Atlanta but at this point Iām glad I got Amazon cause this pretty sketch š¤£
yikes im kinda hoping to get the job there its the only place i feel like i have a chance w rn 
wow have/had a coinbase phone rn the interviewer hasnt joined yet, more than 20 minutes past 1
@tired bay i was wondering if you got many leetcode med/hard questions during the interview?
or if i need to brush up on things like dynamic programming š©
i hope i dont get asked dp during the interview lol T_T
has anyone done the quant researcher OA for drw?
Yeah VMWare cancelled my final rounds as well smh
Sucks too because I applied the first day apps opened and called to schedule my final round with nick on September 3rd. Dude needs to get it together lol
Palantir phone screen ended in 15 minutes, thoughts? Seemed like it went well but donāt know due to time
wait wtf 15 minutes? did u solve a question, ask questions, etc in 15 minutes?
was it behavioral or something?
@trim bridge For Amazon?
i believe for vmware @tired bay
It was just the initial HR phone screen, non technical @simple hazel @worthy spear
Palantir phone screen ended in 15 minutes, thoughts? Seemed like it went well but donāt know due to time
@sweet vigil Did palantir HR phone last year they rejected me after. Not sure why lol questions were pretty basic
Oh then it should be fine recruiter calls donāt take more than 15 minutes too often anyway
Hmm was just worried coz in his email he had said around 30 minutes, he seemed super nice tho!
VMware was nothing harder than a easier medium for me got grilled on OOP as well
oop
a pie
msft asked me the 4 principles of oop
@old kestrel what are they lol
encapsulation, abstraction, inheritance and polymorphism
per google
i was just like
uh
classes
That's a bruh
Moment
oop is overrated, composition > inheritance /s
just remember a pie
@tired bay tyty
Damn I'm sorry @old kestrel
yep mines friday too
nice nice
im doin vmware tomorrow š @zinc bramble
aye good luck tmr
is msft still doing phone interviews?
Damn I'm sorry @old kestrel
@wind acorn
it was for an internship last year lolol
im on friday for vmware also
ive heard a lot of companies ask it
I applied in like early sep with a referral and still haven't heard back lol
Anyone have success following up w/ recruiters?
@tranquil relic if it ends up being super hard can you update us so we know whether we should start panicking or not š
@trim bridge haha sure, although it does seem very interviewer dependent in terms of what you get asked
Anyone have success following up w/ recruiters?
@rapid jackal i applied like a month ago they just hit me back today
Hi, Can someone share front end technical interview experience? Ex.. using React or Angular. I want to know if it is expected to build UI or solve programming questions as part of frontend coding round.
@brisk jolt Thanks.. It helps..
Any experience with WePay code pair?
Hi, Can someone share front end technical interview experience? Ex.. using React or Angular. I want to know if it is expected to build UI or solve programming questions as part of frontend coding round.
Out of all the companies I've interviewed for, only startups have asked me to build React/Angular stuff on the spot--hope this helps but it's pretty rare imo.
Yes, it helps.. Thank you. I was wondering what to expect in such coding rounds using only React/Angular. @wind acorn
Also it will really helpful if you could share about the time limit (I mean will it be sufficient or it depends on the length of the requirement) and the platform that are usually used during interview
@hybrid plover Time limit was the same as the other algo rounds (~1 hour). Depends on the company... they usually provide environments like CodePen so you shouldn't feel expected to have a whole babel/webpack starterpack set up and ready to go on local
@brisk jolt Have you heard back from IBM front end. I did that OA like three weeks ago now
@wind acorn Gotcha.. Thanks
y'all think its chill if i add my interviewers on linkedin, genuinely liked who they were and what they were doing
to clarify: i already interviewed with them
when theres not really anything else to apply too :{
Did anyone hear back from Cisco after giving their OA?
nope, it's been almost 2 months for me now I think
You guys ever wonder how many people from this server you'll meet in your career and not even know...like prob at least afew
should make a secret hand sign here and do the move whenever you meet a new developer /s
^
im game
someone who is creative brainstorm
it could also just be a weirdly specific emoji
pikachu seems to be big for when people submit offers to the bot
ask if they ever been to a farm since the admins all r obsessed with being farmers lol
I had Quora final today and they mentioned they'll adjust the compensation based on where will I work if I get the offer. It was unexpected for me but kinda made sense.
What do you think about that? Will other remote-first compenies do this as well or are they already doing this, or should do this?
yea that's pretty expected. If you live in Ohio, they won't pay you the same as in SF, most companies are doing the same
Did anyone hear back from Cisco after giving their OA?
@vivid crow heard they froze hiring
Hey!
Did anyone give Amazon sde new grad final 30min interview?
You can only use this command in 2021_grad_process or 2021_intern_process
cisco really had to get ppls hopes up like that and then freeze hiring š„“
Did anyone hear back after blackrock final roundļ¼
@pseudo sluice when did u hear for the final round?
can someone tell me what pymetrics is? Games lol?
@delicate tapir basically games that require you to do some task given a limited amount of information
Is it coding related? like should I study for this? @tiny wedge
you can't really study for it imo, one of the games is like "click to blow up balloons to earn money, but they can pop at a certain point. maximize the money earned"
Its really dumb
I've never questioned my sanity more than when doing those
IBM kinda had a similar one
The shit i will do for a job
"You have won $10, how much money will you share with a random person here?"
feels like your playing cookie clicker but with your future job at stake
^^^^^^
im pretty sure JPMC hit me with a hirevue or OA after and i just didnt do it
the funniest one was the game where you had pics of people and had to judge reactions based on that + background info
some of the photos looked straight cracked out
they don't want to hire a psychopath 
lowkey pymetrics the company is genius. Make something with AI then pitch it to people who understand nothing about programming or AI --> guaranteed profit
mcdonalds LP lmfaooooo
Has anyone done some whiteboards with Indeed yet?
indeed open?
Yeah, itās been open for a while
is the position on career website? 
someone posted the link a while back
Yeah and if should be in the job postings channel
Any UK student here?
Anyone just get a follow up from citrix?
Hi, I am looking for a list of remote-first companies? Can anyone please help me out 
@restive cairn stack overflow is one lol
thanks



