2021_grads

[digital carbon]

If you're getting paid 80k for LA tho that's sad

[rocky tulip]

anything less than 120k can go get fuckedd
is correct

[wind acorn]

i think they're trolling

[simple hazel]

ye

[wind acorn]

oh ok

@warm locust tbh idk why you're settling for $120k base

i think you gotta aim for $400k base or you're a total failure tbh

[rocky tulip]

i need to get pip'd at amazon

amazon is trash too

[grave gull]

if you dont make 1 mil per month out of college don't even talk to me 😠

[echo cedar]

y'all are

getting paid <400k?

wow

[simple hazel]

peasants, u should be a CEO of a unicorn startup at 23

[wind acorn]

honestly the real money is in just scamming investors

let's be real

[visual lagoon]

imagine having to work

[thorny creek]

Being real for a second: I am graduating from a middle-country state school and most SWEs make around 50-60k in the area

[echo cedar]

depends on where you are

my average idea was like 70-80k

it's heavily skewed

for salary sharing

[thorny creek]

Average is 1000% not 120k for new grad software engineer

[simple hazel]

bro imagine if ur paying $500 a month in fucking kansas and pulling in $120k

[rocky tulip]

120k is like the least you should accept

and not at amazon

[wind acorn]

what DO YOU MEAN SKEWED?
@warm locust bruh they're not lying it's just that all those salaries are from BigN companies

which are the top companies in the world

not to mention they're in the Bay Area/other high CoL

[simple hazel]

If ur not Applied MLE at FAANG are u even worth the space u occupy

[wind acorn]

not everyone is FAANG or die

[rocky tulip]

LOL 68k you must've went to mississippi tech

hillbilly college

[wind acorn]

some people want to settle down and work for a small company in RTP to stay close to home

[digital carbon]

Why are y'all entertaining trolls lol

[thorny creek]

Alright at this point it's 100% trolling. I was not sure at first

[wind acorn]

@thorny creek what do you mean

i wasn't trolling

$400k base or die

[simple hazel]

out of Big N 3 arent hiring new grads idk so its like Big 2 at this point

[rigid elbow]

college degree in cs field straight up almost useless

[thorny creek]

I am going to march over to the US air force and tell them that this discord server told me I could demand 600k a month. I'll update you all if I don't get murdered

[rocky tulip]

good luck getting into citadel with no college agree

[visual lagoon]

Funny seeing people trash talking sub 120k while they have 0 income LMAO

[unkempt echo]

🍿

[rocky tulip]

@warm locust these people are trolling saying the will take 68k

[rigid elbow]

@sinful meadow could you tell me why instead of just sayin not true

[rocky tulip]

stop trolling guys, you can't live off of 80k

[visual lagoon]

prove it or never happend

[rocky tulip]

be real

[echo cedar]

i hope you're well loved

[rigid elbow]

this discord as a whole is a big meme

[rocky tulip]

you're pathetic if you make less than 120k

[simple hazel]

this discord is just a big cesspool tributary to Blind I love it

[thorny creek]

I highly regret attaching a salary number to my request for advice. I have never seen so many people typing in this chat at once lol

[rigid elbow]

ppl don't forget there are things to live for besides that phat TC

[unkempt echo]

oops out of popcorn

[wind acorn]

@thorny creek wait what was your original question again

i can't even find it LOL

[echo cedar]

it was like accepting 80k

i think

[digital carbon]

They asked if it's bad to renege

[echo cedar]

or just about renegning on an offer

[thorny creek]

@wind acorn I was wondering whether it's alright to accept an offer and then go back on it

[unkempt echo]

more than the money i dont think public sector will mind the reneg that much

i'd say go for it

[rocky tulip]

you're a pussy if you take an 80k offer

[thorny creek]

@wind acorn because I feel like I don't have the heart to do it tbh

So I probably will just turn it down

[wind acorn]

oh 100% renege fuck it

if reneging gives you a better opportunity do it

[thorny creek]

Ah okay I appreciate the opinion

[wind acorn]

also employers will drop you on a dime if "the needs of the business changes"

[unkempt echo]

its public sector

[grave dawn]

Just make sure it’s not a place you’d care about working for in the future

[wind acorn]

look at all the 2020 grads that had their offers rescinded because of COVID

[unkempt echo]

not private

[grave dawn]

Some employers will blacklist you

[visual lagoon]

Your employer has the heart to fire you if they feel it so yeah

[thorny creek]

@wind acorn does your opinion change though if the employer is the US airforce or nah

[digital carbon]

@thorny creek if you dont have any other offers lined up, I'd say take it. Always look out for yourself first

[thorny creek]

Thats the question

[rigid elbow]

I very doubt public sector will hold grudge against you for reneging

id renege imo

[wind acorn]

@thorny creek hmmm I don't think it'd change

is the offer "at-will?"

aka you didn't sign a termed contract?

[simple hazel]

government tech jobs are dead-ends imo

[wind acorn]

idk how it works in the public sector but I think for some government jobs you have to commit x years

[thorny creek]

It is top secret clearance so it's technically an "intent to hire" contract until my full background checks go through

As far as the documents they have sent me there is no commitment no

[wind acorn]

Ahh honestly I would keep recruiting even if you intended to go there

[rocky tulip]

top secret dud camp

have fun

[wind acorn]

top secret takes forever and there's no guarantee it'll pass yeah

so it's nice to have options

[unkempt echo]

having clearance can bump your future comp a few tens of thousands in the future btw

just something to consider

[thorny creek]

@unkempt echo thanks I didn't think about that

[rocky tulip]

like 80k to 85k?

[cursive loom]

id take dead end job if it means i have 0 work to do

spend it all on investing

[rigid elbow]

True, having clearance does open doors to new opportunities

[wind acorn]

@thorny creek one of my friends accepted an offer for Northrup Gunman and was nervous until a couple of weeks before he started since it took that long to process his clearance

[cursive loom]

maybe fuck around and become tech lead

nah

Snowflake IPO

big money

[rigid elbow]

im saving for airbnb ipo

[wind acorn]

@thorny creek also another thing to note about working for the government: the tech you're working on might be older than your parents (think COBOL/FORTRAN)

[cursive loom]

fuck paying off debt, im putting all my money on PUTS

YOLO

WSB life

[thorny creek]

@wind acorn they said they use mainly python

[wind acorn]

which doesn't really help if you wanted to switch careers

ah do you know your team yet tho?

[thorny creek]

I can't say much more because it will give away the offer

Yeah I know the team

[wind acorn]

ahh i gotcha hmmm yeah would still keep looking in case top secret doesn't go through

but accepting early gives it more of a chance to go through

[thorny creek]

They said if I accept now then I would not be cleared to start until Feb.

Government isn't known to be speedy huh

[wind acorn]

haha yeah

wait are you graduating this winter? when would your intended start date be? ASAP?

[thorny creek]

Graduating December would like to start ASAP

[wind acorn]

or do you mean Feb 2022 o.O

ah gotcha

[thorny creek]

I guess I will accept and renege if I get something better

[winged patio]

This chat is wild rn

[neat willow]

on the topic of reneging... i have an offer deadline coming up on thursday... but im scheduling a final interview with the company i'd rather work for... should i accept just in case and then back out later or...

[rocky tulip]

yes

[unkempt echo]

well u gotta give more detail than that lol

[winged patio]

Did you ask for extension yet

[neat willow]

i did this is the extension cuz the location is highly contested

[quick panther]

accept renege and never look back

[neat willow]

pay is meh tho like mr cryptocream over here tho but the company is mega chill which i like

but its private sector and they seem cool i dont wanna get black listed :///

[wind acorn]

on the topic of reneging... i have an offer deadline coming up on thursday... but im scheduling a final interview with the company i'd rather work for... should i accept just in case and then back out later or...
@neat willow wait like tomorrow?

[neat willow]

YES

; ;

[wind acorn]

b r u h

i was gonna be like "could you ask the other company to expedite"

[neat willow]

i did which is why which is why they contacted me back for final interview, but those r hard to schedule since its liek 7 hours

[tired crescent]

If you reneg it might be really hard to get an offer from them again. You could tell them you're not ready to make a decision tomorrow and if they're like too bad you can say no (?) @neat willow

companies are women bro
@warm locust what are you saying, you lie to women to get your way ?

that's cute, bet it works well for you

[wind acorn]

well on that note

i think that's enough cscareers for tonight

[neat willow]

^

[autumn lynx]

LMAO this chat

yall are wild

anyone use Brave browser?

[tired crescent]

anyway
update from Microsoft, after 4 weeks they said my SWE phone interview had positive feedback but they're going to have me restart the interview process for PM! sounds like I'll be interviewing forever haha

[worthy spear]

Anyone know the value per share of Duolingo?

Received an offer but don’t know how much 750 shares per year is worth

[tired bay]

They haven’t IPO’d yet have they?

[unkempt echo]

@worthy spear your duolingo recruiter will have a better estimate than any of us armchair analysts here will have

[old kestrel]

@worthy spear ur recruiter should be able to give u the value. robinhood gave me the value

[worthy spear]

Well They’re valued at 1.5 billion and there’s around 6.1 million shares going around so does that equate to $245 a share?

Also is it worth going to Duolingo over Google?

I’m meeting with her Friday

[rancid otter]

anyway
update from Microsoft, after 4 weeks they said my SWE phone interview had positive feedback but they're going to have me restart the interview process for PM! sounds like I'll be interviewing forever haha
@tired crescent whoa i had this happen to me last intern cycle. halfway through my SWE interview that i was failing miserably, my interviewer told me to sell/pitch him one of the projects i had mentioned earlier (which he was interested in) and i did the pm process after that

[rugged summit]

rip for asana 😢

[fleet niche]

Anyone here done interviews for Grubhub ever? I have a final round with them and they don’t have even a single tagged LC question

[unkempt echo]

nope

[leaden mica]

has anyone done an ios engineer interview @robinhood? if so can you pls message me?

[stark finch]

Has anyone done the citadel onsite yet? I have it coming up tomorrow

[stuck turtle]

does adobe have offices in LA?
@warm locust did you hear back from Adobe?

[unkempt echo]

Has anyone done the citadel onsite yet? I have it coming up tomorrow
@stark finch can pm me

[dapper vale]

@grave gull yea I am running into the same problem trying to convince my parents that palantir is a legit company. Just once I made the mistake of saying they're operating on net loss and now they're on my ass about why I want to work at a company that's operating on a loss
@digital carbon rip, i kinda wish my parents understood how grueling this entire process is but also don't want them to stress out on my behalf

[wind summit]

Has anyone heard back after applying to Data Engineer 2021 new grad position for amazon?

[naive shadow]

shouldn't have procrastinated to the last day... lmao

[grave gull]

dw i did it the day of and got the same message

LMAO

[open nexus]

what lol

[digital carbon]

@digital carbon rip, i kinda wish my parents understood how grueling this entire process is but also don't want them to stress out on my behalf
@dapper vale yea same, I understand their concern

[warm stone]

[daring bough]

sorry guys if you had to verify phone, we just turned on that setting b/c we got some trolls

[spiral glade]

guys, I got amazon new grad offer and oracle(OCI) offer, from your perspective, which one is better? (career growth and stability)
@grand zealot both of them are known to lay off under performers quite easily, so can't coast
Would pick oci over Amazon though, for a better wlb
You might want to ask this on the "team blind" app, to get views of experienced people
BTW, what's the TC, location of these? Maybe decide based on the teams as well?

Is anyone in the process for Expedia's data science/MLE roles?

Please dm, or share info here if so 🙏

[wind acorn]

@worthy spear whaaat

they told me they put everyone's interviews on hold

[wind acorn]

did you apply to a new grad role?

[whole yoke]

Two questions, slightly off topic: I got a week to accept/reject an offer, does it give a bad signal to my future team and recruiter if I ask for more time to think? And suppose I don't get an extension from my recruiter and I renege an offer after signing as I got a better offer in the future, what's the worst that can happen? Can a lawsuit be filed against me? I will be applying for OPT as I am an international student...

[worthy spear]

Yo am really concerned about my Microsoft application. Literally applied August 18 and not a single follow up. I am worried it got lost or something lol

[whole yoke]

I gave my phone screen last week and haven't heard back and have an offer to sign in a week... dunno what to do....

^ this is for microsoft

[worthy spear]

^ this is for microsoft
@whole yoke when did u apply

And when did u first hear back

[whole yoke]

last week of aug
heard back - third week of sept
phone screen - 1st sept

[worthy spear]

Awesome!

Well rip

Idk why i never heard back

[whole yoke]

you will

it will continue till november

[worthy spear]

Hmmm

Am thinking of applying with a second email or something

[whole yoke]

what does action center say?

routed to recruiter?

[worthy spear]

It makes no sense to me why I didnt heard back tbh.

Yea routed to recruiter

[whole yoke]

then a second application wont help

[worthy spear]

With another active application

[whole yoke]

it will go to the same recruiter

and be in his/her DB

[worthy spear]

I see

I guess just have to wait

[whole yoke]

did u apply with a referral?

[worthy spear]

Yea

[whole yoke]

then don't worry.. you'll mostly hear back soon.

[worthy spear]

I hope so!

It’s just taking so long am not sure who are they reviewing applications

I thought they will review by the day submitted but I may be wrong

[whole yoke]

lol

they'll take a long time.

[worthy spear]

Yea

I guess

[whole yoke]

I was thinking in the same way but then once you get your phone round, you'll wish that you had more time.

[worthy spear]

Right

Leetcode grinding is hell tho

Am so tired of it

[whole yoke]

yeah.. but you gotta do what you gotta do!

[mystic mica]

If you frame it as future return on investment, it feels a lot less shitty lol

but yeah it is hell still

[whole yoke]

true!

[worthy spear]

Haha

[mystic mica]

I've done 412 T_T

zero offers :^)

[worthy spear]

WoW

Well

[whole yoke]

I remember solving 1 question one night before my onsite

and got. the same question

[mystic mica]

but I hope one day when things get better I can blaze my phone screens

[whole yoke]

and then got an offer

so whenever I leetcode - I think one more, that one will make the difference between an offer and no offer

[mystic mica]

lmao I remember skipping over one question cus "it'll never possibly be asked" even though it was one of the top frequent company-tagged questions

[whole yoke]

One more LC, one more LC!

[mystic mica]

got the exact same question

bombed the interview cus I didn't know how to do it at all

[whole yoke]

damn.

[mystic mica]

but also if you learn some other data structures like union find + trie

[worthy spear]

That’s unfortunate

[mystic mica]

that's like another 30-40 problems that you can clear

and in the process of clearing those you always learn something new too

etc. etc.

[whole yoke]

I have this mentality that I need to do all the tagged questions of that company for sure if I'm doing an onsite!

[worthy spear]

Tbh, I just dont think am gonna do over 200 questions

[whole yoke]

FB asks directly from their tagged

They don't even bother adding modifications

[worthy spear]

I agree. A friend did some of their questions and got an internship there

[whole yoke]

exactly!

getting the phone screen is the main thing for FB

once you get that and you've done the last 1 year tagged - you should crack it.

[worthy spear]

But in general i think you have to get your hands dirty with some leetcode to really know how to solve company specific questions

[whole yoke]

yeah!

[mystic mica]

I would recommend blind 75 + some ctci, if you're comfortable with most of that

[whole yoke]

I've seen mediocre people get into Google just by leetcoding

[mystic mica]

you will have the foundation to start grinding through company-tagged lists

[worthy spear]

My plan is do enough general questions (the blind list) and then company tagged questions once i get an interview

[whole yoke]

bruh

dont wait for "once you get an interview"

start now. rome wasn't built in a day

its a grind

[worthy spear]

Oh i am already at 150

But am saying i will have to review company specific questions

I started in mid august tho

[whole yoke]

yeah got that!

[worthy spear]

Also school and leetcode almost impossible

Really hard to do both

[whole yoke]

haha... i gave up on school

[worthy spear]

And working part time

[mystic mica]

ohhh rip

[worthy spear]

Lol

[mystic mica]

i was gonna say school + lc is doable if you do like 1-2 problems per day on weekends

but part time work..

yeah

[whole yoke]

school+lc is not doable !

[mystic mica]

still doable but you have to kill time for everything else, have no social life basically

it'd be a miserable time tbh

[worthy spear]

It is if u wake up 5 am and sleep 1 lol

[whole yoke]

school+lc+applying+interviewing+negotiating+applying for opt+having hobbies+ a social life + cooking + cleaning

[worthy spear]

My life is already miserable lmao so why jot

Hobbies? What’s that

[whole yoke]

lolll

[worthy spear]

Social life too?

[whole yoke]

lol

[worthy spear]

Most annoying thing when companies give shit ton of OAs

Just like if we dont have school

Or anything

Am talking about the automated OAs

[whole yoke]

exactly!!!!

I have let so many of my OAs expire

[worthy spear]

Yea same

[whole yoke]

Honestly, I need a break

and a vacation

I don't know how people balance 😐

[worthy spear]

I thought about graduating then focusing on interviews but I am in real need of some 🥖 lol

Need to secure some cash from a signing bonus

[whole yoke]

haha.. sign on bonus is with your first paycheck unless you're a returning intern

for me it's with my first paycheck

[worthy spear]

Dang

I thought it was few months before the starting date

[flint halo]

my offers all stipulate payment after first 30 days

even my return

[whole yoke]

yeah!

[worthy spear]

Well

This is not good lmao

[flint halo]

like how much cash do you need

federal student loan interest rates are at record lows, could you take out one that’s big enough to give you a financial aid refund? (this also might have tax implications and is mildly sketchy so idk)

[worthy spear]

Am working part time while in school so should be fine

Just trying not to work at mcd for a while lol

[hybrid folio]

how do you guys recommend I prepare for new grad interviews next season? Will be applying to only big N and FAANG in Texas next recruiting season. Already have an intern offer currently

[cerulean pivot]

leetcode

[hybrid folio]

How often do you guys get LC hard in interviews?

[tired bay]

Make a plan and set goals mostly gonna be leetcode but might have to learn new topics if u struggled with things as well

[distant fossil]

any of yall do roblox virtual onsite?

[flint halo]

you’ve established that your resume is fine already

developing a consistent habit of leetcode is the best thing you can do to reduce variability

[hybrid folio]

Okay. Thanks!

[queen burrow]

How does the leetcode-bot work? Does it have LC Premium and just pull questions from there or is it from a question bank elsewhere?

[pulsar trench]

Has anyone done swe new grad final rounds for Microsoft?

[cerulean pivot]

How does the leetcode-bot work? Does it have LC Premium and just pull questions from there or is it from a question bank elsewhere?
@queen burrow pretty much the former

at a high level

[high thunder]

😏

[worthy spear]

you should download the LC VSC extension, it's free and gives you list of companies with questions @queen burrow

[old kestrel]

Huh that’s pretty cool

[copper fractal]

You still need a premium account to sign in right?

are you talking about this one?

[tiny oak]

oct 8 still no final interview given

[winged patio]

How long did it take yall to hear back after the first bloomberg phone interview?

[old kestrel]

1 week

[ornate charm]

Anyone taken Doordash final??

[winged patio]

Interview?

[high thunder]

def

[ornate charm]

What choice does anyone have tho^

[high thunder]

in corona times

make the best of it

[worthy spear]

What’s the interview process for Epic

Just got phone

Wondering how many rounds after that

[tiny oak]

anyone do code signal for clear street yet

[iron gate]

any of yall do roblox virtual onsite?
@distant fossil i did their virtual technical onsite last tuesday

[rigid elbow]

did anyone do phone with verkada?

[iron gate]

it wasn't too bad actually, like LC easy/medium and a design question

[cunning forge]

ayo anyone have their 30 min final round for SAP SVNT?

[ornate charm]

anyone do code signal for clear street yet
@tiny oak yes

[rocky carbon]

What are dress code expectations like during covid?

I.e. can i just chill in a t shirt for tech interviews

[abstract olive]

If anyone’s had their phone screen with Akuna how long did it take to hear back? It’s been over a week for me

[cunning forge]

@rocky carbon ive definitely never taken off my earrings (im a guy) and have always been wearing a t shirt for interviews it's been g so far

unless you're going into IB/consulting no one gives a fk what you rock unless it's really out there

[sinful hawk]

Rip Bloomberg phone. Did well on 2nd question, choked on first one

[real prism]

@sinful hawk any last min tips? I have mine in 14 min

[ornate charm]

@rocky carbon ive definitely never taken off my earrings (im a guy) and have always been wearing a t shirt for interviews it's been g so far
@cunning forge you hard as hell boy

[cunning forge]

how did u know im hard rn

[ornate charm]

Def did not mean in that way bro but sure that too😭😭😭😭😭

[sinful hawk]

@real prism know your resume well, and don’t change time complexity when interviewer questions it

[simple hazel]

imagine not getting ur resume yeeted by bloomberg, cant be me

[unkempt echo]

If anyone’s had their phone screen with Akuna how long did it take to hear back? It’s been over a week for me
@abstract olive 10 days from phone interview to superday confirmation for me (C++)

[abstract olive]

@unkempt echo thank you!

[shadow cedar]

@abstract olive which position did you apply to, at akuna?

[abstract olive]

@shadow cedar data infra

[tawdry herald]

Lol literally took me over a month from phone interview -> on-site

[astral garnet]

bloomberg took one month to get me offer numbers after i got verbal offer

[fleet niche]

@astral garnet what was Bloomberg final like for you? I remember a while back you said was overall easy?

[unkempt echo]

akuna said they'd get back to me about onsite feedback two weeks ago >>

[astral garnet]

basically just 2 of the bloomberg phone interviews stuck together

and yeah those were ez

[fleet niche]

Did they give you any system design?

[astral garnet]

no

[fleet niche]

Oh damn, I thought HIring manager round was sd

[astral garnet]

they just grilled me on resume

some people got sd tho yea

[fleet niche]

I see ty

[near finch]

Cigna second round is a whole day from 9-3pm...and on the same day I have a Microsoft first round at 6pm. Would y’all decline on Cigna if it meant more time for Microsoft? I wanted to try for more companies but I’m leaning towards focusing on landing my preferred company...

[dry mural]

do both

unless you have an offer you like already

[gritty bramble]

Is it a good idea to cancel interviews if you already have an offer you’re set on taking and know you wouldn’t make deadlines waiting? Or better to just go on with the process even if you know you won’t take it

[autumn lynx]

ayo anyone have their 30 min final round for SAP SVNT?
@cunning forge how long after you took the OA?

[dry mural]

id still take the interviews

[unkempt echo]

depends, interviewing is always good practice but if you just wanna be done with it go ahead and drop

[dry mural]

^

is the comp at the other places good

cuz you can always use their offers to negotiate

[cursive loom]

i would take them for practice

but if youre burned out or find interview to be a waste of time

then u can cancel

[cunning forge]

@autumn lynx

applied 08/27
got OA 08/31
submitted OA 09/04
heard back 09/14
had behavioral 09/18, friday
heard back 09/21, monday
had technical 10/5
heard back 10/6
had final 10/8 aka today

[supple fjord]

wtf you heard back from your final in 1 day?

i mean technical

a n x i e t y

[thorny mango]

anyone seen any google new grad positions?

[astral garnet]

they won't be out until january

[thorny mango]

oh damn, just got a referal today but it only lasts 30 days haha

[cursive loom]

Same

[autumn lynx]

@autumn lynx

applied 08/27
got OA 08/31
submitted OA 09/04
heard back 09/14
had behavioral 09/18, friday
heard back 09/21, monday
had technical 10/5
heard back 10/6
had final 10/8 aka today
@cunning forge Nice was this for backend? I took my OA a couple days ago

@cunning forge Nice was this for backend? I took my OA a couple days ago for full stack
@autumn lynx

[cunning forge]

yeh backend

[obsidian bane]

Those who’ve been offered or rejected from Citadel, how long did they take to get back to you after your final round?

[proven badger]

@eager glacier how long did it take for Microsoft to get back to u after round1?

Interviewer said something like 3-5 weeks for me

hope it doesn’t take that long

[unkempt echo]

Those who’ve been offered or rejected from Citadel, how long did they take to get back to you after your final round?
@obsidian bane sept 18th superday, oct 1st decision

[compact hazel]

any advice when inbox has been crispy dry?

[cursive loom]

apply more

[simple hazel]

I talk to TCS recruiter bugging me on linkedin when i feel low

[lucid pagoda]

Lol

[solid moth]

@compact hazel reach out to recruiters on linkedin. i've been able to get my app pushed thru like this

[mellow vault]

Has anyone given the Peak6 hackerrank?

I just finished it
Weirdest questions I’ve seen

[compact hazel]

apply more
@cursive loom applied to every single uni grad posn available everwhere

[cursive loom]

well tbh idk what else to do

u can try contacting recruiters again after

but u cant guarantee whether they'll respond

[neon tangle]

Has anyone gotten a Bloomberg Engineering Career Connections invite? Not sure what that is but they mentioned its a 1:1 talk with a SWE

[autumn lynx]

@mellow vault took it a while back it was really hard. haven't heard back

[neon tangle]

not sure lol i just remember applying to the main swe app

[tiny oak]

email notification -
it's spam -

[mellow vault]

@autumn lynx how much were you able to do?

[autumn lynx]

i think i got like 3/4 on one and 1/2 on the other

cant really remember

test cases that is

[mellow vault]

Yes yes got it

[autumn lynx]

wbu

[bronze canopy]

Just aced the twilio hackerrank....waitlist email incoming

[mellow vault]

First 6/15 test cases but like I know what I’ve done isn’t right
Second I just bombed

1/9 but only because my output was just 0 always
I wrote a beast of a code, too

[autumn lynx]

Damn yea the questions were really weird. Did you get some flights one in Chicago?

[dapper vale]

anyone know how many rounds there are for bloomberg? had my first phone a week ago and recruiter said it went well, so they scheduled the "virtual on campus interview" for next week but it's only 1 hour long

[digital carbon]

@cursive loom applied to every single uni grad posn available everwhere
@compact hazel I mean then your resume isn't good enough if recruiters aren't moving your application forward

spamming to more companies is not going to help

also isn't hiring slowing down anyways. you might have better luck during the spring, it's just a bad recruiting season unfortunately

[ornate charm]

Just aced the twilio hackerrank....waitlist email incoming
@bronze canopy most people aced it and took reject so dont expect much

but awesome nontheless

[bronze canopy]

@bronze canopy most people aced it and took reject so dont expect much
@ornate charm yee i saw that happening a lot

[sly nebula]

oh yeah peak6 hackerrank was hard

i lucked out getting all test cases on 2 but i got mixed up on first one

got like half?

with a solution that did not make sense lOL

[arctic drift]

I got rejected with all cases on the Peak6 hackerrank lol

[sly nebula]

man

[arctic drift]

this was ~ a month ago

[sinful hawk]

How long does it take to get result for Bloomberg phone interview?

[autumn lynx]

didnt even get rejected just ghosted lmao

[winged patio]

today is day 7 for me lol

[dark frigate]

Does anyone know how D.E. Shaw pays for new grad SWE?

[old kestrel]

Well

[shadow cedar]

@compact hazel reach out to recruiters on linkedin. i've been able to get my app pushed thru like this
@solid moth what do you tell recruiters? I tried talking to a rec at pinterest, didnt get any response from her

[patent spear]

@shadow cedar This is how I do it personally, it does get me messages and I would say it works well. But obviously people will ghost

[loud anchor]

did poorly on onsite today

sigh

[shadow cedar]

That'll help! Thanks @patent spear !

[wind acorn]

is it safe to say recruiting szn is winding down for FT?

#2021_grad_postings has been drier than the sahara

[warm stone]

inbox full of junk email

[solid terrace]

Probably, unless google and facebook pull through next year

[wind acorn]

^ yeah my inbox is a bunch of crown princes telling me to send SSN and bank account nums

[tired bay]

I feel like there is gonna be a strong spring season more than normal this year tbh

[wind acorn]

this is such a bad time to graduate

2021 worst class ever 😦

[solid terrace]

Agreed, was considering doing a masters but probs not worth the opportunity cost (compared to a job)

[cunning forge]

yea i can’t imagine everyone’s signed at this point but there aren’t rly new job posts

[solid terrace]

I think it would be, since it seems internship recruiting is relatively normal? Though i haven’t been keeping up

[cunning forge]

if u don’t have any interviews rn r u fucked

[solid terrace]

Hmm maybe have a backup plan

Does your school have something like a 4+1 masters that doesnt require GRE?

[wind acorn]

if u don’t have any interviews rn r u fucked
@cunning forge you're probs in limbo rn... if you haven't been rejected by everywhere you applied you're probs still good

if it reaches like Feb/March and you have no offers then you should probs look for backup plans

[ornate charm]

Sackit we get it u r big brain dude with 17 interviews bro... leave some for us bro...

[solid terrace]

Ya, agree with Dragon, though for some you have to do some pre planning (i.e. masters applications are due dec 1 or something)

[supple fjord]

when you guys say interviews are you talking about OAs or past OA interviews

[wind acorn]

yeah on that note as long as you're not outright rejected you still have a chance up until the very end

[solid terrace]

Or take a quarter off and delay graduation until after fall 2021, and do an internship haha

[wind acorn]

ghosting != rejection (even though it might seem like it) I've gotten interviews in May for a position that started in June

[solid terrace]

Or just take a break tbh, covid times have been rough

Hmm some companies dont have new grad applications, so you could try internships for those

Like reddit, google, facebook (currently), not sure which others dont have an app out rn

Though if you do poorly on google / facebook, may not be able to do full time when/if the new grad app actually comes out

[ornate charm]

Some companies require that you have a quarter or semester left after the internship

[solid terrace]

That’s when you do the old defer graduation XD

[ornate charm]

Oh hail naw💀💀

Jk might have to be the case

[solid terrace]

Obviously depends on your individual circumstances, and its not entirely practical, but yeah

[ornate charm]

Anyone know comp for SAP SVNT

[tiny oak]

UCF has an accelerated masters program that i'm in where u graduate w masters in 1 year so if I get an offer I'm just gonna graduate and take the job and if no offers then I go for masters

extra money wasted but idk if I would have enough motivation to do personal projects until the next new grad year

[tacit breach]

I just got Amazon OA today, does anyone know if they're still hiring for new grads?

[tired bay]

If they sending OAs they are hiring

[shadow cedar]

I just got Amazon OA today, does anyone know if they're still hiring for new grads?
@tacit breach when did you apply??

[tacit breach]

long time ago, Aug 25 haha

just haven't heard anything back till today, saw that the status was "Under Consideration" for a while tho

[shadow cedar]

woah! I had applied on Aug15, still no signs of OA 😦

just haven't heard anything back till today, saw that the status was "Under Consideration" for a while
@tacit breach on amazonuniversity.jobs?

[tacit breach]

nah on amazon.jobs

[shadow cedar]

woah! okk, its showing "draft" for me over there...smh. it has been this since the beginning.

you gave me some hope @tacit breach . All d best to you!

[autumn lynx]

mine still says under consideration

lol

[tacit breach]

thanks, you as well @shadow cedar! Hope you get an OA soon

[mystic mica]

2021 worst class ever 😦
@wind acorn unemployed May 2020 grad has entered the chat

Agreed, was considering doing a masters but probs not worth the opportunity cost (compared to a job)
@solid terrace That's actually what I'm seriously about to do

I figure, intern recruiting seems impacted but as much as new grad (which is just fucked)

if I decide to do a masters, I'd have 2 summers to gun for internships

which beats applying to new grad jobs for who knows how long at this point

I applied to like 350+ new grad apps, haven't gotten farther than OA
Applied to an intern app yesterday, got a callback this morning

sample size 1 but it's the thought that counts : )

[digital carbon]

I figure, intern recruiting seems impacted but as much as new grad (which is just fucked)
@mystic mica do you mean "but not as much"?

[mystic mica]

sorry yeah

but not as much

[digital carbon]

and yea it's fucked, internships are a low risk investment for companies. they're not even obliged to give a return offer :/

[mystic mica]

exactly, but I don't mind that, cus like

i'd rather get a masters and have 1-2 more internships on my resume and then apply to new grad positions in 2023 than spend another half year applying to useless new grad apps

[digital carbon]

yea, imo now is a good time to pursue a master's if people are on the fence

buys people some time for the economy to recover + can get some internship exp in the meantime

[mystic mica]

I asked in cs career hackers and they gave the typical "NoT wOrTh tHe cOsT aNy jOb iS bEtTer tHan a MasTers" like, bruh you're an employed mid-level developer

you have no idea how bad we have it right now

buys people some time for the economy to recover + can get some internship exp in the meantime
@digital carbon yeah, my thoughts exactly

[digital carbon]

idk what cs career hackers is, but yea most forums are just echo chambers

even this one 🙂

[wind acorn]

@mystic mica to be fair.... 20s got to experience at least some part of their senior year normally

then a huge chunk of them were unemployed

[digital carbon]

I've found this discord to be relatively balanced though

[wind acorn]

21s didn't get to experience any part of their senior year normally

and we're also gonna be unemployed

fml

[digital carbon]

ya it sucks, I'm mad about not having a senior yr

[mystic mica]

ok fair enough, we just don't know how bad the market will be when you guys graduate but yeah it's shitty

[wind acorn]

and now since 20s are unemployed

[mystic mica]

21s didn't get to experience any part of their senior year normally
@wind acorn

[wind acorn]

21s also have to compete with 20s

[mystic mica]

yeah you have 20s competing for the same

positions

[wind acorn]

lol

F

[mystic mica]

that's why I'm thinking of

doing the masters route

[warm stone]

maybe when you graduate with masters, you have to compete with 20s, 21s, 22s, 23s😂

[copper fractal]

At least the economy would recover by then

[mystic mica]

it's fine by that point I will have 500+ LC

I got 412 right now

by 2023 I will fuck up any interviewer

[wind acorn]

@mystic mica ok real talk

how do you find which questions to do

[stoic yoke]

Lol like that simpsons meme with Bart saying it's the worst day of his life and Homer says"So far😃 "

[wind acorn]

some LC questions are just outright shittily written

[stoic yoke]

Could be worse next year

[mystic mica]

0 - 200 was me being stupid and blindly doing questions, kinda peeking at answers, 200 - 400 was me starting to go through the blind 75 list, I also learned union find + trie during this time so I was able to blaze through another 40 questions based on those

[simple hazel]

do blind 75 first @wind acorn then contests

[mystic mica]

I also skimmed through EPI and started doing the equivalent questions on LC

[wind acorn]

ah gotcha tyty

[mystic mica]

yeah

I graduated with no job and kinda

panicked

and went on a super grind

[wind acorn]

yeah I did most of the blind 75 questions last year but am going through them again this year w/ a new session

[mystic mica]

but I realized it's stupid to grind if I'm not even getting phone screens

so now I'm only gonna do LC if I get a confirmed interview

[simple hazel]

same @mystic mica im just a LC monkey now

[wind acorn]

and am doing like the "top 100" qs or w/e and also filtering meds by acceptance rate

[mystic mica]

I think a good study plan

is

[digital carbon]

by 2023 I will fuck up any interviewer
@mystic mica In 2023 we'll have to fuck em up in a very literal sense: https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/j5q7on/had_to_take_a_physical_test_new_trend/

[simple hazel]

i have no life. LC is life

[mystic mica]

read through CTCI/EPI
concurrently go through Blind 75^
once you hit 200-300 questions, start practicing in areas where you're weak on. at that point, I would only "grind" more LC if I had an interview coming up, and do the company-tagged list

[wind acorn]

after all who actually cares about writing good tests and API design when I can solve an LC med in optimal time using bitshifts

[mystic mica]

@mystic mica In 2023 we'll have to fuck em up in a very literal sense: https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/j5q7on/had_to_take_a_physical_test_new_trend/
@digital carbon rofl I saw that

[digital carbon]

like the company is screaming for a lawsuit

that shit is crazy

[mystic mica]

2024 tech interview prep gonna be:
codeforces
sub 6 min mile run

[cursive loom]

lmaoooo

interview just says

[digital carbon]

Oh don't forget learning mandarin

[cursive loom]

bro do u lift?

gotta pull up in proper attire

ppl are gonna start recommending steroids

[digital carbon]

squat 200, bench 150, deadlift 250 😤

[mystic mica]

Oh don't forget learning mandarin
@digital carbon I did a chinese minor 😂

[copper fractal]

I can imagine the clickbait titles "I used this Steroid to get into google" XD

[digital carbon]

I legit studied chinese for 7 years and now regretting dropping it

[cursive loom]

After reviewing your results, we regret to inform you that you have not been selected for the role. While our team found your experience and coding knowledge more than enough for the position, your inability to bench press 2 plates did not meet our criteria. We will keep your resume on hand and contact you if more opportunities appear in the future.

[tiny oak]

sure you can bench 2 plates, but can you do it in O(logn) ?

[cursive loom]

preprocessed bench press

[wind acorn]

I legit studied chinese for 7 years and now regretting dropping it
@digital carbon

[unkempt echo]

recursive bench press

[arctic drift]

no base case

[cursive loom]

just pull up to the interview with weights attached to your body

[arctic drift]

just infinite benching

[cursive loom]

rock lee style

[ornate charm]

Fr tho how many people in this chat work out🤣🤣

[wind acorn]

don't forget to memoize to reduce calls

[cursive loom]

gyms are tough now

esp since wave 2 hit

so i just do it at home

[ornate charm]

Anyone recruiting swe for 24 hour fitness?? 💀💀💀💀

[pseudo wigeon]

fr tho

if they added bench press as a req i think id pass alot more resume screen

[cursive loom]

LOL

virtual bench press pymetrics

[ornate charm]

All the homies hate pymetrics

[arctic drift]

@quick burrow yo for your veeva app, was the first round just behavioral?

30 min interview sounds kinda wack

[unkempt echo]

codesignal proctored benching

[digital carbon]

Fr tho how many people in this chat work out🤣🤣
@ornate charm I was making good progress on a linear progression plan until corona hit

[leaden venture]

24 hour fitness is whack

[digital carbon]

I was more mad then about not being able to go to a gym than I am now about the job market being shit

[astral garnet]

2 plate bench ez

[cursive loom]

the prices goodlife charges

insane

finna go planet fitness

[leaden venture]

They tricked me into a year long membership when i wanted a month to month thing

[simple hazel]

codesignal proctored benching
@unkempt echo they check and deduct points for weak ass form

[arctic drift]

lmaooo jesus

Difficulty of technical/onsite if you don't mind? @quick burrow

[ripe forum]

@quick burrow will u play league with me

[tiny oak]

am sion main

alpha

[winged patio]

cscareers league team

[arctic drift]

challenger flex or bust

[tiny oak]

i peaked gold 2 but it was bc of my team not me

if my team was good i would be challenger😎

[arctic drift]

If it weren't my team's fault in all of my games, I'm pretty sure I'd be top 2 in the world

rito has shitty matchmaking

[forest scarab]

anyone have a phone interview with hrt before? not sure how to prep/what to expect

[arctic drift]

For core dev?

[forest scarab]

yeah

[arctic drift]

first round is low level C++ questions

and like OS

[forest scarab]

like how C++ compiles? or like ideas behind function execution

[arctic drift]

just general trivia

[forest scarab]

oh okie thanks!

were you given a leetcode question too? or just trivia

[arctic drift]

uh like a mini-lc question kinda

but no going through code or anything

just like how would you do this

it wasn't difficult by any means

imo

the trivia itself was like "harder"

because they actually test what you know

[spice belfry]

does it look bad if you apply to internships and ft at the same company?

[arctic drift]

like the interviewer actually knew what he was talking about lmfao

which is not the case for some companies

[forest scarab]

oh shit ok, makes sense

[tiny oak]

try to avoid doubling companies but if you're going to then use different email and change grad date if needed

idk if they can check to see if u applied to ft and intern

[spice belfry]

yeah for sure gonna change the date

just wondering if anyone's had a positive or negative experience doing so

[digital carbon]

maybe change your name too while you're at it

jk, but like wouldn't recruiters see the two applications with same name and experience

just different grad date and email, and find that sus

[arctic drift]

FT and Internship might get pipelined to different recruiters

usually is I think

[spice belfry]

but like, recruiters talk. i'm not tryna fool them

[arctic drift]

my friend is interning for both FT and Internship at MSFT rn

[spice belfry]

your friend is what

[arctic drift]

he had final round for PM full time at MSFT and then got a phone round for internship

[spice belfry]

oh huh

[bronze canopy]

after submitting two diff resumes with diff grad dates for akuna, I got an email from recruiter specifying my discrepancy. then got sent oa

[arctic drift]

say you're willing to delay your grad date

[bronze canopy]

that's what i said

I was willing to delay my grad date for the opportunity to internship at akuna

[spice belfry]

or maybe just have 2021 without a month

[cobalt yoke]

anyone else get this for Stripe new grad SWE? it's definitely been a few weeks since I applied :/

[digital carbon]

yea, see the process channel for discussion on that

[cobalt yoke]

oh shit, didn't realize, thanks

[digital carbon]

oh shit, didn't realize, thanks
@cobalt yoke you're good

[cursive loom]

imma put stripe as rejected for now in my own checklist

if it gets resurrected ill be more than suprised

also they give baller af new grad contracts

ye

[digital carbon]

can't wait for economy to improve and students to start ghosting companies

Thank you for your interest in me! I wanted to send an update that I recognize that you have not heard back yet regarding my decision on your offer, and want to thank you for your patience. I have been experiencing a very high volume of offers and my recruiting agent does review all offers before determining next steps. My aim in early communication is to set appropriate expectations, so I appreciate your continued patience.

sure, if you wanna be pedantic about it I agree

but see our friends in traditional engineering for a real employer's market

smart people out there happy to get $80-90k jobs

CS is a bubble in that respect at least

[unkempt echo]

cs is a cheat code

[mystic mica]

jk, but like wouldn't recruiters see the two applications with same name and experience
@digital carbon that's my concern right now

graduated already but thinking of applying to internships, if I get one I'll enroll asap in whatever masters program will accept me

and ride out the shitty new grad market until 2023 lol

but not sure if I should use an alternate resume with a new number and everything or apply to both apps with the same account

[spice belfry]

i feel like it's best to be straightforward

because you can have multiple emails, resumes, phones but only one linkedin. and one face

so like if they eventually see you and think you were tryna fool them i don't think that's a good look

[magic sable]

Has Qualcomm released new grad application?

[tired bay]

They start recruiting like ridiculously early for internships like April so idk might be done by now 🤷‍♂️

[arctic drift]

mediums? @quick burrow

we take those

[thorny mango]

got rejected from FB with a referral within 6 days damn I must suck

[obtuse stone]

FB not hiring externally rn so don’t feel bad

[tired bay]

Lol that’s everyone don’t worry about it

Referral = Reject
No-Referral = 👻

That’s Facebook this year

[thorny mango]

Damn time to look for other places to work lol

[cursive loom]

It do b like that sometimes

[rocky zinc]

Referral = Reject
No-Referral = 👻

That’s Facebook this year
@tired bay spot on. I was ghosted until referral then rejected

[tiny oak]

i'll email zuckerburg and tell him off don't worry guys

[cunning forge]

did anyone do a 3 round interview with amazon last friday pls dm me

[gleaming sigil]

How does FAANG recruiters approach people in LinkedIn? Is it luck?

[bold arch]

Lol that’s everyone don’t worry about it
@tired bay 101% True

[whole yoke]

Referral = Reject
No-Referral = 👻

spot on for FB^^

[wind acorn]

yike im about to get a phone call rejection tomo

i feel it coming lol

[rustic geode]

anyone interview for 2sig today?

[livid roost]

Any tips to prep for an HRT algo developer phone sceen?

[stoic yoke]

Dang you're the one who should be giving us tips, congrats! Did you have anything on your resume that you think helped you stand out to get an interview?

[livid roost]

Lol, a research internship at Amazon and some applied ML research I guess.

[grizzled flame]

got rejected from Bloomberg after final even after answering everything properly 😢

any company that is actively hiring right now?

any leads would be appreciated

graduating in December so stressing out a bit

[lyric nest]

@grizzled flame robinhood, duolingo, oracle, twilio, doordash, snap

[dark jewel]

twilio isn't even actively recruiting

they're just blasting out OA's to everyone then rejecting people with perfect scores

[lyric nest]

@dark jewel aren't they? I got an onsite

[grizzled flame]

snap i applied

[dark jewel]

@twitter circa 2018

[grizzled flame]

didn't hear back from them yet

[lyric nest]

Oh yeah....Twitter too

[dark jewel]

oh interesting

[grizzled flame]

have they started giving oas?

[stoic yoke]

@grizzled flame sorry to hear that. It can be hard right now, but try some destressing activities. Sometimes when I get heated about career stuff I like to take a walk by myself somewhere quiet and preferably naturey, take in the sounds and sights, maybe with music, and that sometimes helps to remind me that there's so much more to life than career

[lyric nest]

@grizzled flame Twitter? I think they mentioned they won't be having hackerrank this time? Not sure.

[stoic yoke]

Also try reaching out to recruiters of companies that you applied to already but haven't heard from. I feel that vast majority of the time it doesnt work, but there's a chance it could.

[grizzled flame]

@stoic yoke thanks man!

@lyric nest I applied to Twitter .. haven't heard back yet though..

[lyric nest]

@grizzled flame guess it will take time..but yeah reach out to recruiters..that does help sometimes

[fleet niche]

@grizzled flame sorry to hear that, that sounds kinda BS what else did they want from you..

[grizzled flame]

i asked for feedback but they said it's against the company policy.. wish I knew where I went wrong lol

[mystic mica]

i asked for feedback but they said it's against the company policy.. wish I knew where I went wrong lol
@grizzled flame Yeah, that part really ticked me off when I got rejected back in May, I thought the interview went fine too and I explained everything/etc. and the recruiter has the audacity to be like 'SorRy aGainst CoMpAnY poLicY'

maybe you might find this useful?

although i'm not sure if they'd actually let you do that

[whole yoke]

just gave my amazon oa part2. got screwed.

[dry mural]

why?

[whole yoke]

did 1 problem fully. second one was too weird

[dry mural]

was it on that

leetcode list

[whole yoke]

yeah

[dry mural]

iyky

[whole yoke]

and mfers have posted all incorrect solutions

none of them worked

[grizzled flame]

@mystic mica I will try that!

[worthy spear]

hey wuttup new grads

[unkempt echo]

sup new grad

[dry mural]

me sitting here at like 160

😮

[devout bobcat]

By the time I got to 600 I was getting sick of Leetcode

[misty gale]

^can confirm. my current count is 670 and I can't look at the LC website anymore than 5-10 mins a day other than when I do the daily challenge.

[autumn lynx]

bruh im at like 90 lmao

[mystic mica]

what's nice about hitting 350+ is you get so good at recognizing what category the problem belongs in

so you usually won't have an issue on an interview where you use a completely wrong data structure

but actually solving it is still really hard sometimes

[autumn lynx]

i started using binarysearch.io

and practicing with a friend

[sharp lichen]

omg I'm at 150 and I'm mentally done lol

[misty gale]

oh I love bsio. started using it when the stay at home thing started and solved most problems there. it's a lot more fun than LC

[whole yoke]

@misty gale next level man!

670 is insane

@mystic mica the main thing is to recognize patterns

Once I hit 200 LC, I could see patterns

And then above 500, I feel it is diminishing returns maybe. But I have not cleared FAANG so don't know

[warm stone]

I think fully understanding 200-300 problems is enough for interview, even though I solved 1200

[misty gale]

not to forget, after doing a lot of problems it's equally important to remember those patterns. So revision is a must!

[mystic mica]

I think doing Blind 75 (and actually understanding all concepts from it) and then hitting even 250 is more than enough to clear faang

250 - 400 for me were taken up by union find, tries, and just ad hoc problems tbh

or very similar variants that netted a free submit because the code was so similar to another problem I had done before

[misty gale]

true. need to have a balanced split of questions among topics that you solve.

[lyric nest]

Aren't these too high numbers? I have done like 200.

[misty gale]

yeah you don't need to do 500+. around 300 are good enough for interviews I guess

[whole yoke]

I know people who have done 80LC and smoke weed all day and crack FB&G like it's no big deal

It's mostly about pattern recognition and applying the fundamentals to new questions

[misty gale]

^

[whole yoke]

I just got the next assessment from amazon after bombing OA2

Is it worth giving it?

[misty gale]

from what I've seen, it won't matter how well you do the OA. just complete all 3 and if you're lucky you'll get a call

---

did anyone do Neeva onsite interview?

[dry walrus]

Is Intuit New Grad roles out?

[simple hazel]

And then above 500, I feel it is diminishing returns maybe. But I have not cleared FAANG so don't know
@whole yoke dont even have a chance to take faang for like 4-5 months :/

[tired crescent]

wow you all are insane! I've done maybe 50 practice questions between leetcode and cracking the coding interview over the past 2 years

[tiny wedge]

lmao i hit 650 recently

[sharp lichen]

I feel the quality of the numbers are important too

[tiny wedge]

i still choke on OAs tho

grokking the coding interview is hella plug i must say

[simple hazel]

grokking changed my way of thinking. i dont think ill ever struggle writing BFS again

[sharp lichen]

luck definitely plays a big part in getting the interview too

[tiny wedge]

my one gripe is how they name variables

[sharp lichen]

I feel getting the interview is harder than the interview

[tired crescent]

do you feel like doing 100s of problems has helped? imo that sounds like overkill

[tiny wedge]

but prolly one of the best 60$ ive ever spent

https://leetcode.com/sydneylin12/

[rigid elbow]

I feel getting the interview is harder than the interview
@sharp lichen 100% agreed

[tiny wedge]

@tired crescent you asking me?

[simple hazel]

@tired crescent its a good test of whether u have the problem type down.
like would u rather find out in an interview if u can implement DFS flawlessly or just write it 200 times before the interview

[tiny wedge]

if it is then rip my 60 haha

[tired crescent]

To me it's like understanding the process and goal so you don't have to have it memorized. Like instead of memorizing all these algos I can figure out the steps in practice because I understand it conceptually

[tiny wedge]

after so many reps it becomes like second nature tbh

[tired crescent]

I'd rather go outside or play music hahaha I don't think I could go that hard on lc

I am impressed at all of you though

[sharp lichen]

I'm trying to push for several more interviews to get more pay xd

2 more weeks of grinding

[simple hazel]

outside? what is that

[tiny wedge]

thats fair! i go to a pretty meh uni for cs and dont have gr8 internships so i gotta pull my weight a lot harder

made the mistake of choosing an IT internship even tho it was coding related for is last summer

[wind acorn]

https://leetcode.com/sydneylin12/
@tiny wedge Solved questions: 657/1612

holy

[ruby grotto]

@tiny wedge 3SUM and chill? 👀

[tiny wedge]

got 2 maybe 3 finals next week, cant afford to choke

[wind acorn]

how many of those did you look the answer up for

[tiny wedge]

not that many tbh

probably 30-50 and i try to come back and solve them

[daring bough]

kp fellows open

https://boards.greenhouse.io/2021kpfellows

they have new grad stuff

[ruby grotto]

aw man thought we were done with those 250 word essays after common app trauma eh?

[daring bough]

rip

[tiny wedge]

oh god that brings back mems

lmao leetcoding is highkey a repeat of ACT prep just slightly more applicable

[dark jewel]

at least they removed the stupud project this year

[ruby grotto]

lmao leetcoding is highkey a repeat of ACT prep just slightly more applicable
@tiny wedge i'm telling ya it's the same kids grindin on r/applyingtocollege and r/cscq etc etc up and on

probably shitposting on blind after getting a full time tbh

[tiny wedge]

i made the mistake of not trying on ACT 😭

[ruby grotto]

idk tho i feel like SAT/ACT would def be like Leetcode ultra-easy? didn't seem to need much prep

i wish that's all we needed to get a job

but nobody cares

[tiny wedge]

if you wanna go ivy as an asian male tho

[ruby grotto]

except DE Shaw lmaooo

[grave gull]

asian males go brrrrrr

[tiny wedge]

nice!

[ruby grotto]

oops no flexo

[worthy spear]

General question, is it too late to start the process of applying for full-time roles as a new grad? Is there a list I can apply from?

[tiny wedge]

lmao cs majors are all about flexing

[worthy spear]

Also where can I get resume feedback?

sorry for the (probably) irrelevant/dumb questions, I am very new here

[tiny wedge]

I got a 30 and only got accepted by a few state schools

@worthy spear theres a channel for resume i think

[ruby grotto]

thoughts on https://antileet.com/?

[cerulean pivot]

holy
@wind acorn https://leetcode.com/iteleportal/

[tiny wedge]

god DAMN

[dark jewel]

similar to how leetcode requires a lot less prep if you went to a good college?

[wind acorn]

@cerulean pivot but he has juice

juice is not mortal

[cerulean pivot]

juice is just a friend group

of admins

like 5 of them dont even code lol

[tiny wedge]

teach me the ways

[wind acorn]

lol was in jest

[tiny wedge]

I aspire to get ~1000 someday LMAO

[wind acorn]

@coral coral how did you decide which questions

[rigid elbow]

do yall leetcode on a daily basis or what

[tiny wedge]

dynamic programming is a pathway to many abilities some would consider... unnatural

[rigid elbow]

im not even close to 200

[dark jewel]

where are y'all working with 600 questions?

[tiny wedge]

nowhere rn lmao, trying to secure something

[dark jewel]

i barely break 20 a season typically

[tiny wedge]

20 questions??

[dark jewel]

yeah lmao

after my first internship, it was <10

[tiny wedge]

jesus christ thats nuts

[cerulean pivot]

i did 50 this yr

200 last yr

[dark jewel]

I'm at like 35 prepping for FT right now

[tiny wedge]

i started doing 1 a day when covid spring break, then it snowballed

[rigid elbow]

leetcode drains my soul I just can't

[cerulean pivot]

no

im garbage

unironic garbage

[grave gull]

wait seriously?

[ruby grotto]

i feel dumb prepping when my inbox is dry but then i get an oa and i'm all shocked-pikachu

[tired bay]

Code-forces too much math to grind tbh

[cerulean pivot]

wait seriously?
@grave gull wat

[grave gull]

oh uhhhh

like 5 of them dont even code lol

messed up my quote

[cerulean pivot]

yh we have u

so thats 1

[warm stone]

I did 1200 but dry inbox😂

[dark jewel]

so

a medium takes like

15-20 mins

1200 questions is like 500 hours?

wtf

[tiny wedge]

low long that take?

[dark jewel]

are you guys just hitting up all the easy ones, where solve speed is limited by typing speed?

or are you legitimately spending 500+ hours grinding LC

[tiny wedge]

some of the easy ones on there are such bs

theres 1600 total so i bet 1200 alone is more than all easies

[warm stone]

many problems are simliar, once you are on the track, you can solve 20 - 30 questions one day easily

[dark jewel]

theres like 1600,

but the time distribution between all easies + most meds

vs all hards + all meds + some easies

is massive

[tiny wedge]

if only i knew SQL to pump out all those easies LOL

[ruby grotto]

how many leetcodes do you think trump could solve? 🤔

[fallen iris]

There was that one guy on LinkedIn who solved all of the LC problems(at the time) and it took him a couple years, he works at FB I think

[ruby grotto]

i've had really weird algo dreams tbh

makes you stress out about all the edge cases in life

[cerulean pivot]

ive dreamt about leetcdoe

[tiny wedge]

leet grinders after they see one palindrome IRL

[cerulean pivot]

and also dreamt about solving a bug

[sharp lichen]

😵 this chat is too much lc talk for me lol

[tiny oak]

14-year old prodigy programmer dreams in code

[autumn lynx]

There was that one guy on LinkedIn who solved all of the LC problems(at the time) and it took him a couple years, he works at FB I think
@fallen iris my internship manager commented on that post saying "what a waste of time"

[whole yoke]

ok @misty gale thanks!

[stoic yoke]

@autumn lynx Maybe it is. But someone linked iTeleportal's LC profile on here earlier and he did over 900 and he got JS Citadel DRW and Stripe new grad offers #nopainnogain

[autumn lynx]

well yeah but its a waste of time doing that many problems if you're a senior engineer lmao

[viscid zenith]

anyone got an offer from Nordstrom?

[wind acorn]

well yeah but its a waste of time doing that many problems if you're a senior engineer lmao
@autumn lynx whatchu mean... LC is a waste of time or just all 1000 questions lol

the interview process still has LC for senior engineers

it's just longer and also has system design rounds/more behavioral rounds

the LC grind never stops

[autumn lynx]

nooo

LC is not a waste of time

but all 1000 questions is forsure

i think he did it more as like an "accomplishment" than for practice for interviews

[worthy spear]

quality > quantity

[wind acorn]

ok so i am applying for seasonal jobs during my xmas break

i wonder if places like Kohls or TJ Maxx are even hiring seasonal associates this year o.o

[worthy spear]

what do you guys think about going for masters to have an extra year to get internships?

[quick panther]

i was thinking of doing winter internship and taking a semester off if i don't get offer

master's seems too long

[winged patio]

^

[old kestrel]

Probably

[high thunder]

what happened

[tiny oak]

https://www.teamblind.com/post/Microsoft-making-50-WFH-standard-and-supporting-100domesticinternational-relocation-with-approval-RaGWSutu

pretty crazy

[high thunder]

theyll surely do CoL adjustments

[patent sparrow]

Anyone hear from Moody’s analytics superday?

[dapper mauve]

Hey guys has anyone done a Bloomberg on-campus interview? I have mine coming up and would love any advice! (This is after the technical phone round)

[old kestrel]

its 2 technical interviews

followed by a behavioral the next day

[cerulean pivot]

theyll surely do CoL adjustments
this and they are notorious for paying under other tech companies for anything that is L4 or above lol

[fair blaze]

@grand zealot I have an oracle interview coming up? Anything specific to focus on for their interviews from your experience?

[high thunder]

@cerulean pivot msft has a slow burn philosophy when it comes to comp

[old kestrel]

what does that mean

slowly increase over time but always increase

[high thunder]

They want you to stay long time

[ornate charm]

Anyone take Expedia final round??

[grave dawn]

would this be the right place to ask for input deciding between new grad job offers?

i got an offer from amex in nyc and a return offer from uber atg in pittsburgh

[digital carbon]

In general, they also have better wlb too though. Maybe only rivaled by Google I think
@eager glacier bloomberg WLB is hard to rival too

@cerulean pivot msft has a slow burn philosophy when it comes to comp
@high thunder like it steadily increases but eventually becomes high?

[copper fractal]

I'd personally take Uber

Unless your into finance areas

[grave dawn]

just kind of worried they'd lay me off before i start like they did the new grads in the summe

though idk how likely that is

i guess also worried atg fails, idk how on track they are

@eager glacier are you going to take it?

yeah ik :/ i'm worried atg dissolves or gets bought

any thoughts on if it would be hard to jump to a west coast company after a year or two at amex?

i don't really want to be at a finance company long term

[high thunder]

then y r u picking them now

[grave dawn]

just have the two offers

[near finch]

Has anyone done their coding interviews and challenges in Swift for this job szn?

If yes, how’s that working out for y’all?

[queen burrow]

Just wanted to share an InstantRegret moment
I had a Bloomberg interview scheduled in 2 weeks but I emailed my recruiter if I could do it next week instead due to a deadline. Recruiter cancelled my original interview and gave me new times. The only times I was given to reschedule was from 4:30AM-8:15AM. I asked recruiter if I could get more times or just go back to my original date. Now I have no interview until the recruiter responds. T_T

[high thunder]

f

whre r u

[queen burrow]

NYC

[high thunder]

that 4:30 am would be offered

uhh

[full shore]

sick wlb

[near finch]

Wtf lol those are such weird times. Something similar happened to me with Microsoft, they gave me two dates and then I asked for accommodation for a different week, and all of their slots filled up. The recruiter came thru tho, she was able to squeeze me into the following week but warned me beforehand that she didn’t know if she was going to be able to.

[queen burrow]

I assumed that those were people from London or smth? IDK XD

[high thunder]

hmm

makes sense

awk

[grave gull]

bb is so fucked holy

430am

[tiny oak]

join interview in pajamas

what they gonna say

it's 4:30 am f em

[queen burrow]

I wish XD. I checked again today and all the slots are filled so now I got no times available 🙃

[astral garnet]

bloomberg recruiters are just terrible overall

[old kestrel]

kinda toxic but okay

[stoic yoke]

Had no idea BB did interviews that early

[dark frigate]

@grave dawn if it helps at all with your decision, feel free to DM me about Amex. I interned there this past summer

[simple hazel]

there is no early or late for bb, they dont stop recruiting

[wind acorn]

😦 i just got off the phone w/ a recruiter that told me they're still deciding headcount and don't know if they could meet my offer deadline so told me if i could request an extension that'd be awesome (this was from a past internship)

[dark frigate]

Does anyone know how well D.E Shaw pays?

[dark jewel]

Like 300k ish new grad but they’ll match almost anything

[stark finch]

Has anyone done the Roblox virtual onsite yet?

[tranquil relic]

has anyone who did the recent onsite w roblox heard back yet 👀

yes @stark finch

[stark finch]

Oo, how was it? I have it in a few hours

[tranquil relic]

ill dm @stark finch

[grizzled cargo]

@tranquil relic when was yours? they said they'd get back to me in a day, but haven't heard back yet (had mine monday)

[mystic phoenix]

bloomberg recruiters are just terrible overall
@astral garnet that was my experience with me as well. Dude was clearly distracted and didn't introduce the problem well at all. But I still solved it and got rejected a week later.

[tranquil relic]

@grizzled cargo mine was 2 days ago, they gave me no timeline and both interviewers had no idea what next steps even were. my interviewer said "yeah they basically told us to interview these people and aside from that we know nothing"

[arctic drift]

@tranquil relic do you mind if I ask about roblox onsite too

[unkempt echo]

i just got my akuna compensation call for the C++ role, they pay interns a higher base salary than new grad full timers lol

[cursive loom]

lool wtf

thats dumb