#2021_grads
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My amazon student portal is showing no longer under consideration. I didn't get the OA also. What should be done in such case?
Yeah that makes sense, would be nice to work for them though. I really like their product for note taking and such
@fervent berry woah did you get an interview with them?
I wish
My amazon student portal is showing no longer under consideration. I didn't get the OA also. What should be done in such case?
@chrome sage
Rip, some people suggest you make another email/account and apply but Idrk if that works
I am thinking the same but I don't know if that works
Anyone knows what type of question do vangurad OA consist of?
LC easy @lone gale
LC easy @lone gale
@torn wadi Thanks
we can see others appliactions etc
imagine having friends
I am thinking the same but I don't know if that works
@chrome sage I saw a post on reddit saying there's a risk of being fucked later if they realize its the same candidate they rejected so its not worth the risk but ymmv
I mean what are they going to do if they catch you
imo it's unlikely they will blacklist you
One time a recruiter was angry so they were like nah while looking at your resume
another time they were in a good mood and swiped right on you
My amazon student portal is showing no longer under consideration. I didn't get the OA also. What should be done in such case?
@chrome sage that is a rejection signal, the same as me
yeah i dont think they'd blacklist you but probably just reject again if they realize its the same person
I am not sure how realistic it is tho because they track your name, linkedin and so much more that just email is not enough to disguise yourself
are you guys visa students? @warm stone @chrome sage
i heard there was a bug in amazon for people who were waitlisted last time
they got no longer under consideration this time
the bug was that they got the email not the portal
portal didnt show no longer under consideration
Amazon's also big enough to the point where you probably won't hit the same recruiter again
unless they pipe it based on where you live or somethign
and would a recruiter really remember one name when they go through hundreds/day
gotta be mad unlucky if it's the same recruiter and they remember you too
my friend last time applied thru main jobs site, then 2 months later he used amazon university with diff email
he did fine
they did wait list him tho in the end
I'm surprised amazon is rejecting students though
I thought they usually pass almost everyone onto oa
@arctic drift yes
resume bar is not that high
I still have to apply because I was getting an internal referral but I don't think it panned through š
Maybe amazon isn't trying to offer visas rn
because yeah idt they cared too much about resumes
it was kinda just an OA ratrace/grind
Does anyone know how long bloomberg takes to get back to you after a phone interview? had mine on thursday
arghhh amazon is taking so long to get back to me regarding OAs
@gusty citrus some ppl said 1 day, but they are way busier now. I wouldn't worry too much.
no worries i just had mine today
gl!
ty you too
Still havneāt heard back from Amazon with referral, applied on August 3. I got offered an internship last summer but didnāt take it, maybe thatās why...?
anyone hear back from amazon after oa3?
Nope not yet probs mass all sent out on Thursday
I want 1 interview š idk when I get the email matters or not, for whether I get 1 interview
For ppl who did get a response from amazon, how long do you have to choose an interview time?
id like to think they're not just waiting on rejecting us all on thursday
I know people who have applied for amazon with more than 3 different emails and now work FT at Amazon
You think you can just apply with like 10 different emails?
Amazon is completely based on luck, more than 60% of my class is working Full Time in Amazon and more than 20% of them applied with atleast more than 2 email id's
Good to know
id like to think they're not just waiting on rejecting us all on thursday
@tidal hazel id like to think everyone took a nice break over labor day weekend and havent got back to us cause of that
^^^
I took a really dank nap and woke up to two interviews šÆ
one is from a company that I applied to in July so never give up hope friends!
Hello, has anyone done the Microsoft codility interview yet?
Hello, has anyone done the Microsoft codility interview yet?
@winter ice I have mine scheduled on 11th
I have mine scheduled for tomorrow haha
Haha all the best, please share your experience if you don't mind
Yeah np
@winter ice I have mines on Thursday so good luck and lmk how yours goes
for anyone that had a phone screen with Palantir, how long did it take to hear back after?
microsoft is doing codility now?
Anyone know what the hubspot final round like
Anybody here has any idea about Vanguard coding challenge? Difficulty and number of questions?
Anyone know where I can learn about system design? Not sure where to read up to be ready for intrview questions
Ty!
redo's are allowed on a per company basis yeah
i did the robinhood codesignal recently, does anyone know what score cutoff they're looking for for the karat
darn
thanks
is there the karat + a final round for the rest of the timeline
thassa lotta steps
How much time has it taken for yall to hear back from robinhood final round
Hi All, while applying for data bricks i saw this note below
Note: If you have 1 year or more of full-time software engineering work experience, please do not apply for a New Grad role. Please search for other roles on our jobs board not indicated as New Grad positions.
I have worked for 2+ years in India & but i don't have any experience here in USA.
Can i apply for this job or not bit confused please any can help me.
Thank in advance
Anyone hear back from American express after final round of interview for the new grad software engineer role
@olive ridge if u worked fulltime for 1 yr+ no matter where, pretty sure you should apply to entry level roles rather than new grad
@azure gull which role was this? couldn't find it on their careers page
Anybody hear back from SAP after giving their oa?
i dont think sap has gotten back to anyone
@nova maple when did you submit application for SAP and got oa?
Do we have any resource for free ATS tools online?
Robinhood
"applied (03-08-2020)
got codesignal (05-08-2020)
completed codesignal (05-08-2020)
recruiter reach out setting up karat (07-08-2020)
karat 1 (08-08-2020)
karat 2 (09-08-2020)
recruiter reach out setting up recruiter call (11-08-2020)
recruiter call (13-08-2020)
recruiter reach out setting up superday (13-08-2020)
superday EZ (26-08-2020)
offer (around a week after onsite)"
bloomberg
"got 2020 phone interview (13-07-2020)
did first round phone (29-07-2020) 2 leetcode mediums: 45 mins
got final round interview (30-07-2020)
did final round techs ez (12-08-2020)
recruiter reach schedule final round HR (12-08-2020)
final HR interview, went ok (20-08-2020)
recruiter reach, setting up immigration call? (24-08-2020)
immigration call (28-08-2020)
got offer, sending numbers in 2 weeks (31-08-2020)"
both new grad
only algorithm question?
fantastic
Anyone know if it is more beneficial to schedule interviews earlier or later? I have to schedule an onsite but want more time to practice but also don't want them to fill all their spots before I even get the chance to interview
I am only debating about around a 4 day difference so I am probably just paranoid but its hard not to be about these things
nice job @astral garnet
do codeforces kids
How many problems did you solve on karats?
2
Ohh dam
Ig it makes sense why I got rejected after phone
2 each sesh or altogether?
2 each
how is doing codeforces different from LC in your experience? @astral garnet
more formal solutions, higher emphasis on speed
Top people can solve leetcode mediums in like < 10 minutes from reading to writing out all the code
Any advice for the Bloomberg Phone Screen?
make sure do first question pretty quick
if interviewer have second question in mind, you don't want to spend lot of time in first question
Do you guys submit cover letter to every application? Can this make a difference?
I donāt
I don't either, I don't think it makes that much of a difference
I've never made a cover letter
I donāt think it makes much difference and if itās personalized itāll take a huge amount of time
But then again, I haven't had much success lol
^same lol
If you submit a generic one it probably wonāt hurt and wonāt require much extra effort besides an initial draft
Can we apply to Databricks NewGrad role again? Got rejected in the previous application for CodeSignal ( in the priority period) š
why can't all companies do this
anyone have their nuro final round yet
How hard is robinhood final round?
why can't all companies do this
@last linden which one is this?
looks like databricks
Anyone else had a school info event thing from Akuna for live trading game, recruiting event
what to expect from hubspot phone screen following OA?
Was just a casual recruiter chat for me, letting me know that they would be doing onsites in a few weeks
A few behavioral questions about my experiences
guys, do u think the recruitment season reached its peak? what was the trend last year? and how will this year be any idea?
no one knows
@astral garnet congrats fish. do u require sponsorship?
ok what was the trend last year? when was the recruiting active?
yes I do
feels like the recruitment season is coming to an end.
whaaaat? omg. but many companies havent even opened full time roles afaik!
the current peak is passing, but there will be more companies hiring after october, thru february even
^contingent on covid being taken care of
oh.
That vaccine better come out ASAP
70% company has already opened, many like google, Uber, Airbnb, Linkedin probably will not open this year
If google opened APM I just donāt see them not opening SWE at some point
yeah, hopefully
@visual beacon thanks
this year's recruiting seems so so so much harder š¦ some 20s and most 21s got really unlucky this time around
Uber and lyft are hiring apm's
I'd be shocked however if they will be hiring swe's
Fb is hiring very, very few SWE's this time around. I don't really have much faith in google either tbh
I'd be shocked however if they will be hiring swe's
@low verge Why? Wouldn't they need more SWE for each PM/Project?
Uber & Lyft lost a major legal fight in California that affects income heavily
and COVID
theyll prolly only do conversions and call it a day
yes I do
@astral garnet Mind sharing which country do you belong to? I am from India and was wondering if companies are hiring international students or not due to covid?
Tbh for any small companies that have the budget this would be the year to hire because thereās the same amount of talent and less openings at companies like google/uber/Airbnb etc
You also have to remember that most of these companies were spamming applications to arenāt gonna hire more than 20-30 new grads total
Yea, and they get a couple thousand applicants.
0.17%
nice
Where do you find those statistics @vagrant raft?
Also yea seems like a tough year. Was hoping to hear back from amazon because they should be hiring like crazy but I donāt know anyone they have reached out to after the OA
Where do you find those statistics @vagrant raft?
@winged patio someone in this discord got this information from a recruiter
amazon has reached out to a few people, but yeah majority should hopefully hear back tomorrow
amazon has reached out to a few people, but yeah majority should hopefully hear back tomorrow
@tidal hazel who aced all the OAs?
i think so, or at least close to, its hard to tell
Ok šš½
n people have been reached out to with both the 1-interview and 3-interview final rounds, so take that as you will
oof looking forward to taking this big fat L for amazon tomo 
@severe mirage where'd you hear about that?
oh shit i don't think i ever got an email about that
when was the email sent out
i think it was the "Amazon next steps!" email
like their v first email saying the OAs are coming
^
should be an email with the subject "Amazon Next Steps!" @iron gate
Man I had perfect OA1 and 2 now im wondering how badly I screwed up 3
Anyone have recruiter email for Amazon New Grad role? I can exchange with recruiter from Palantir, Stripe, BlackRock, Citadel
some people got onsite today btw, for amazon
mostly 3 interviews, cant know for sure tho :?
@pale anchor there isnt specifically a recruiter for new grad. only for sde1 (not thru amazon student programs)
@pale anchor there isnt specifically a recruiter for new grad. only for sde1 (not thru amazon student programs)
@simple hazel Ah I see! I applied on Aug 15th but haven't heard back so I wanna follow up with a human
uh you wouldnt have got that email if you havent got oa yet
^
tbh I wouldn't be surprised if amazon just said there was a delay. My interviews in Spring 2019 were delayed 4 times
they did push the OA deadline by a week o.O
That was cause OA 3 was failing to load for some people. Idk man, I can't think about it anymore. I aced 1,2 and had a great feeling about 3
so i got a L60 offer from Microsoft ~180k TC and have until end of Oct to sign. can any companies beat that for negotiations?
Yes
congrats!! and maybe FB + some unicorns + quant firms
Probably not quant firms tbh, tech usually ignores your bonus from what I've heard
yeah i heard MS only cares about competitors so like Amazon/Google/FB/some unicorns
yeah probably
idk if amazon will get back before october tho, since they're doing batch OAs (google hasn't opened yet, and idk anyone with a fb interview yet)
I'm trying with Bloomberg to increase my TC for Microsoft, that could also work
mind the geographic differences.
I am in the amazon batch coming out tomm so the loop should be done by my deadline
yeah dont count on amazon tc being higher than 180k, cause amazon has a first year stock cliff
what's stock cliff>?
stock cliff means that your stock (or most of it) vests after the cliff date
5,15,40,40
Sorry, not familiar with how the companies works in USA. So it's 5% on 1st year, 15 on 2nd, and so on?
25/25/25/25
a lot less greedy
I see, thanks!
Amazon had a cliff for your 401k match too š
they dont match till after 1 year or something
Like your Rsu vesting, if you leave early you lose most of your 401k match
Bezos por que
According to someone I know this is Amazon's New Grad TC: 112k base, 26k signing, 7k relocation and 80k RSUs vested over 4 years at 5/15/40/40
Yep sounds about right. signon might vary depending on other offers
this year it should be 116k base, 27k signing first year, 23 k second year, 7k relocation and 86k RSUs vested over 4 years at 5/15/40/40
Not counting relo, that is 142k first year
so I capped out my L60 comp without any competing offers: 119k base, 130k stock over 3.5 years, 50k bonus. 2x returning intern bachelors
oh wow how are they competing with msft for talent lol
You only increased bonus?
L59 offers are poppin this year
Or did your stock increase 10k?
are u a masters grad zugruth?
nope bachelors, my team strongly recommended up to managers skip level
Link the sheet
thats a pretty solid offer dude. id take it over amazon 100%
usually new grads come in at level 59
@simple hazel for sure i am taking it. Just trying to squeeze out more in negotiation to help my folks out yknow
@worthy spear Apart from F and G, there are only unicorns and quants who have higher TC
Who are you interviewing with?
rn Robinhood, Citadel, Akuna, Duolingo. Amazon gets back tomm after OA3
Most quants won't have higher "TC" because tech doesn't count perf bonus in TC and like 40% of your comp as a Quant is perf bonus
yeah i figured
Not like I can pass quant interviews either way 
you can negotiate signon if you get quant offer. base is maxed out for sure
they have insanely high signing bonuses sometimes which helps nudge the signing for MS
@grave gull its a l60 offer
Lol i didnāt pass databricks first time they opened and now i got the codesignal again for the second time lol
How long do you need to wait for a Codesignal retake?
every 14 days
14 days
Nice
usually 14 days if a company requests it
I messed up my RH one
apparently it gets weird if youāre outside the US tho
yeah @worthy spear but even L59 heavily beats out amzn
Im inside, so its good
can i take the codesignal and then choose the best one to submit to a company?
i have my RH one thats not so good
Damn, Databricks sent it out at the same time
Pls say itās not gonna be 4 questions
Its going to be 4 questions
4 questions 70 mins. with my luck ill get 2 hard again :))
Ill just overthink and not finish the last one
@grave gull Whats amazon returning intern offer? because MS pays returning interns a lot more than standard new grad
According to someone I know this is Amazon's New Grad TC: 112k base, 26k signing, 7k relocation and 80k RSUs vested over 4 years at 5/15/40/40
@sleek coyote
ah sry
New Grad vs Return in Microsoft is like 30 -40 k difference
Return is basically the same as new grad. Maybe a 5-10k difference iirc
i heard different. cause return you know what team ur joining. new grad you get assigned a team. so depending on how badly the team u interned on wants u, u get pretty good offer
Headcount can change in one year, do they just assign you a team so early on?
when they plan for interns they predict headcount for the next year/two
obviously covid threw a wrench in it
but 80% of the time you go back to your team
did anyone get the databricks codesignal?
A lot of people just got the email
If itās anything like Robinhood Ima just go ahead and take this L
Got a citadel rejection that referred to me as a different name before I even submitted the oa
aa ;-; haven't heard back from msft oh well, even with 2 internships and lots of experiences, projects. Hopefully it's easier to hear back after a year or so out of school
@fleet niche Same, I guess I'm Anish now
Yo anyone do the palantir recruiter call for SWE? Iām guessing all behavioral?
I saw someone mention not to talk about other pending offers/interviews, so do I just act like Iām only focused on palantir lol
@eager glacier It feels like they are always hiring new grads, I wouldnt worry
Been a week since my final round interview with American Express and havenāt heard back, I probably didnāt get selected huh
Pain
msft phone round is same difficulty as last year
True hopefully I donāt get ghosted @cerulean pivot š¬
i got ghosted for 3 weeks last year l0l
Codesignal website down for anyone else?
yeah
cant wait to tank RH and Databricks OA's all in one go
oh yea
i would space out the two
u can retake codesignal
and then just reuse it
mine are both due within the next 14
rip haha. but thanks sm
codesignal takes ur best score right?
Quick question. If I took a code signal general coding test on Aug 22 am I allowed to retake it now for other companies?
Could anyone tell me about audible interviews? What to expect and all
How should you reply to āare you interviewing with other companies?ā
honestly
@devout bobcat yes, u can retake CodeSignal after 14 days period, I believe
@fervent berry at least say not yet
So is the correct answer along the lines of ānoā?
Cuz afaik they are asking it to lowball your offer as much as they can
I keep trying to understand what wen wrong with RH screen to avoid doing it in the future
Recruiter call?
And for RH I said I do interview with 2 more so ig it shouldnāt have been a harm
Recruiter call?
@coral coral yeah
I told them about my interviews and they were cool with it and immediately sent me scheduling for on-site
If it was the karat performance I wouldnāt get the phone in the first place right?
I feel like if they think you only are interviewing with them the company will just lowball you
For people who have taken databricks' codesignal. How hard was it?
Maybe it was a resume thing
Did they ask what you were looking for out of your next job?
Yeah I said impact bla bla bla
How did you answer?
ask if they have a beer fridge
Maybe you didnāt align with the role they selected
@tranquil pebble itās different for everyone, but first two questions should be p easy, and third should be medium and fourth is usually hard
How did you answer?
@coral coral I said I am looking to make an impact and seeing how much people love using RH I think itās a perfect fit for a person who aspire to make others live better
@tranquil pebble itās different for everyone, but first two questions should be p easy, and third should be medium and fourth is usually hard
@tidal hazel so 4 questions in 70 mins? Dayum.
Are the Databricks tagged questions on leetcode a good indication of what to expect? š
I mean if Iām nit picking thatās a little high level @fervent berry
I welcome the critique
what are you supposed to say when they ask that question then
talk about why youāre interested in the product
Yeah or the product itself
robinhood in particular has a lot of fanatics
R/wsb
Also, our call got interrupted 4 times because his phone was shitty maybe thatās just set him in the bad mood
Maybe
Nah you need to hit them with your passion and who you are
recruiters see right through the bs
what if it's not bs
They interview people daily
š¤
Like don't say something like " I want to make impact"
Thatās the truth tho
Like what does that even mean
"I want to get paid a lot" how about that
You need to go into specifics
It means when youāre a small gear in a big N you donāt really make an impact
My go to is mentorship opportunities
Bunch of swe in larger companies work on internal tools that <100 people use
as an intern
Then tell them what you watch to do in the long run
They know you arent going to be working for robinhood forever
No one expects you to
I didn't really talk about robinhood itself and recruiter gave me the final interviews in the middle of our convo
so Im unsure if the screen is just a formality or smth
Yeah idk it might have been so many things
cheat mode for questions like this is to find an interesting post on their engineering blog and then talk about why problems like that appeal to you
@flint halo thatās smart
You guys recommend for the 14 days window to pass before I take the Databricks codesignal?
For example, my end goal is to eventually create my own non-profit startup. I always relate to how the internship will help me achieve that goal for the long run.
yeah sencho ngl I think your answer to the screen is pretty high level
i went pretty into detail about the eng work that goes on at robinhood, and how it lines up with what I want in a job
@grave gull how do you find info about the eng at a company?
The above mentioned blog way?
Ok lesson learned: read the company blog before screen
or just at least be super familiar with the product/role
like i did ios at robinhood
and i have years of ios exp and have used robinhood for a while so i was really able to talk about the fit
Ok in that case even I would agree I was not a good fit cuz I have never even used RH ngl
too broke for that
ive never used rh either
shouldnt have to be "super familiar" as new-grad but :((
And telling it to the recruiter doesn't help it (I know I did a dumb thing and idk why I said it)
Yeah but overall I now see where I might have done a poor job
i think you can also avoid the question
for me i gave like a 7 minute answer to Why Robinhood so we didn't have much time after that lmao
You can kind of just go off from what it is and what the purpose of it is
@worthy spear Apart from F and G, there are only unicorns and quants who have higher TC
@sleek coyote which unicorns specifically?
lol asking the real questions
stripe ?
Salesforce isn't? a unicorn but pays more i think
Pinterest, whenever they open apps (although idk if they got hit hard by covid)
RH, databricks, stripe, datadog, snap, slack, Nuro
These guys all pay more than fb?
do you have a rockstar offer from fb
bc almost nothing is going to beat rockstar lol
I've got a return internship offer
Stripe and rh are close to rockstar
So I'm trying to plan ahead for new grad
wow wtf rh is rockstar
bro if you just kill it at your return internship
at FB
and you get rockstar
you're big chilling
/almost/ nothing is better lmfao
yeah, but its pretty hard to kill it
So I'm trying to plan ahead for new grad
@rich fulcrum bruh just take your return offer, the new grad this year is a shitshow
I don't think any tech company can strictly beat fb rockstar
Ehhh Rockstar is pretty subjective on the manager. I wouldn't bank on it too much
I don't think New Grad's been this bad in a while
Some can match though
feelsbadbro
Only a few quant firms can beat fb rockstar
Google will about match
Slightly higher recurring
Though
The sweet spot thing would be a unicorn comparable (or slightly less) than fb with better culture
@rich fulcrum stripe
lmao I'd take a lower TC in exchange for better culture
Yea same
I didn't like my time at fb tbh
I don't know anything about frontend, isn't that a big deal for stripe?
Fb seems stressful
I feel like it's mostly team-dependent though
Stripe is an API company
I feel like it's mostly team-dependent though
yeah that's true. My team was in infra and their wlb was ... questionable
Has anyone done the OA for Uber APM?
Yea, it's a neat API used for credit card payments and stuff.
I've had to use it a bit, very neat.
anyone applied to bloomberg/msft w referral? is it like fb/google where they email you or should I still apply normally and just list my referrer?
unicorn stock is paper money, I wouldn't count it into your comp offer at a 1:1 ratio
anyone applied to bloomberg/msft w referral? is it like fb/google where they email you or should I still apply normally and just list my referrer?
@pseudo wigeon msft will email you
@pseudo wigeon msft sends you an email, bloomberg you list the referrer
unicorn stock is paper money, I wouldn't count it into your comp offer at a 1:1 ratio
@grave gull yea I wouldnt either, also considering almost all tech IPOs in the recent past have been underwhelming
That's why I'd recommend interning at unicorns, you can see their financials before deciding
I think Unicorns are high risk high return. People recommend it early in your career
- more growth
got another invite for codesignal, do i have to share my previous score or can I take it again?
You can do either
do i just click reject then?
No go to the testing center section and take the test when you want to. then itll ask u if u want to share the test ur about to take with whoever
dont reject in main page.
does anyone know what difficulty to expect on citrix hackerrank
I just did it, it was easy-medium @worthy spear
@radiant glen awesome, thanks!
is palantir virtual onsite after the karat?
Yea
Though they also say there's possibly additional rounds after the virtual onsite lol
Has anyone done the OA for SAP SVNT?
yeah @willow glacier which position?
Data science or backend?
My Backend OA had 2 LC types extremely easy questions and one SQL query that was so convoluted that I could not even understand what they wanted the answer to be
There's also some multiple choice questions and one debugging
qualtrics leetcode medium friendly interviewer :^)
yh
@willow glacier @olive ridge backend one wasnt bad, two lc easy/med, couple open ended questions, and a SQl
qualtrics always has nice people working there
has anyone had a phone interview with datadog/knows what level questions they ask?
Is anyone gonna attend GHC2020?
@limpid shard me. I applied for both in Mid-August.
What is Rockstar
My Backend OA had 2 LC types extremely easy questions and one SQL query that was so convoluted that I could not even understand what they wanted the answer to be
@pure marsh Thanks for the info. Did you move to next stage?
@willow glacier @olive ridge backend one wasnt bad, two lc easy/med, couple open ended questions, and a SQl
@tidal hazel thank you.
@olive ridge No response yet
Does anyone have experience negotiating L59 to L60 with a masters at msft? Like is it pretty common or rare.
What is Rockstar
@torn ivy top x% of facebook interns get like a 200k+ TC package basically
Thatās lit
oh jk I googled I think signing bonus is just 100
after that base pay is same lol
but that's still good
default sign on for returning fb interns is 70k
depending if u include sign on 1st year comp theyre all over 200k
70k what the fuck
RH, databricks, stripe, datadog, snap, slack, Nuro
@fervent berry whats RH?
default package is 118k/70k/160k over 4 years
also it seems like a lot of the big companies arent recruiting this year
google isnt
from what ive seen
unless their apps r just gonna b out late?
o rlly
get teh chance to work on something meaningful for perf review? great ull get GE on review
otherwise nope
enjoy l3 for 3 years
fb u have to hit l4 2 years
l5 in 2 years or something
i think they cut you if ur l3 for 2 years at google
wut i worked there
thats pretty much every company imo. u cant be l3 for more than 2 years
o rlly
my mentor told me google was more chill
nah google is chill for l4 - l5 they're "terminal"
It seems like most at google make l5 whitin 5 years
My friend sleep walked to l5
fk that
lmao
maybe he just a god
Where at fb you have to work hard
fb is rlly hard
that means u will grow
Googles app is just coming later this year
o rlly
Probably within the next couple weeks
thats good
Yeah they opened APM I expect SWE soon
facebook turnover is insane. you can be a manager in 2 years
bro i saw 1 yoe robinhood manager
imagine being like 40, an industry veteran, and ur manager is practically a new grad
big r/wallstreetbets YOLO energy
a recruiter will reach out to u and ask for availibility
how long did it take for them to reach out to u after applying?
Soo, what should we do about Microsoft. Just take it as a rejection?
@tepid minnow my microsoft interview asked behavioral question, design patterns, and lc easy
Assume nothing happened and keep going with life @worthy spear. That way ur not let down if nothing happens lol
@winter ice did u aapply new grad? how long did it take to get the first interview after u applied?
@young silo thatās a good way to think about it. I was hoping for Microsoft the most tho, already got auto rejected by fb and amzn
I applied new grad aug 23
i cheated like fuck on the assessment bro
I've heard that a lot of May 2020 grads got rejected by Amazon.
invited me for oa aug 31
ran that bitch through a vm and shit tell me thats not engineering prowess right there
i signed up for mine sep 3, and itās 3-5 weeks witb results
o wow
companies buggin tf out if they think they gonna get me to do 6 hours of interviewing HA
@winter ice I'm a lil scared about the design patterns part. Dunno where to study that from š¦
Well, I applied on August 19 so thatās an L i guess
for what itās worth some others here have theirs scheduled way after the window was for mine, so they might do batches
i applied last week
look up design patterns singleton and factory house code
you should receive it soon then
when I fight bezos to the death and take over amazon this whole discord getting jobs šÆ
bud you dont have the job yetš
Has anyone heard back from the Amazon batch that is supposed to hear back by tomorrow?
we gonna take down bapitalism from within comerades
Has anyone heard back from the Amazon batch that is supposed to hear back by tomorrow?
@winged patio not yet
Nope not yet
bud you dont have the job yetš
@worthy spear yo dont disrespect me like that dawg
@winged patio not yet :/
hopefully tomorrow
also started working as a full time swe at the startup im at rn
so thats prob why
even tho still in sk00L
basically luck
so yall got this dw i cant leetcode for shit
Are there any tech conferences like GHC, where guys can attend it?
Tapia
you can attend GHC lmao @frozen oyster
Can you though lol
if you want to learn from the sessions but not for recruiting
MS sponsored me last year
tapia costs money tho
i got a couple interviews idk...
shpe society of hispanic engineers has some virtual thing going this year
dont have to be hispanic
lotta friends of mine got fulltimes from there
So does GHC. Only issue is that I'd feel guilty for joining as a dude, @worthy spear
thats fair
why would you go to a conf for recruitment if you arenāt the target demographic
idek i didnt go
because i want a job lmao
cause the rest of us want jobs too š¦
lol
lmao i lied to a quant fund here in nyc and told em im gay idgaf
like GHC is absolutely great! Completely agree with it but if they dont let guys recruit thats straight up discrimination
lol
na chil
is there a way to see who is going to tapia?
lets not walk down this path
lmao
u bugging tf out
what companies
bruh the companies are pushing so hard to know the other companies you're interviewing with
really?
theres like no girls in this field lmao
i mean they need timelines @languid plaza
i tell them timelines but i never say names
^^^
@old kestrel Asking same question maybe sponsors on website
like I am nicely saying I am not sure if its in their policy to share the names (which I am bs ing just cuz I don't want to say name) and they are still like yeah it's fine just say it
i mean they need timelines @languid plaza
@worthy spear I do tell them any deadlines coming up tho
Wouldn't it be good to say names so they know you are a good candidate
if you want to learn from the sessions but not for recruiting
@snow kayak are there any career fairs for recruiting, but as successful as GHC, but guys can also join it? I feel like I'm adding too many constraints here :/
@frozen oyster bout them may grads getting rejected, did they get OA then get rejected or no OA?
bro its capitalism if u wanna go to a girls conference so bad shave ur legs and whip out that dress
idk why u complaining
@simple hazel They didn't get an OA. They got a direct reject.
@frozen oyster if you want to do GHC do GHC lmao its virtual this year dont turn on camera ez
LOL
Why would you not share deadlines / other companies you are interviewing for?
duct tape that webcam ur good š
i have a full grown beard no shot id be able to turn the webcam on and im not desperate lmao
@winged patio sometimes companies wont bother interviewing if they think youll just use their offer to negotiate
on the flip side i'd say throwing out companies names in the past has helped me expedite even without a deadline
^^^
Hmm I guess but it seems like the most qualified people would also be interviewing with the most places
yeah its a weird game
@winged patio if you're qualified, you're qualified
there are tons of interview steps to show it
sometimes recruiters just dont want to waste their time @winged patio
@winged patio sometimes companies wont bother interviewing if they think youll just use their offer to negotiate
@worthy spear ^ this is why I don't want to say anything specific
Good point I guess the way I saw it was if I was interviewing at a company and had an offer already its because I would still want to work there lol, over the company I had an offer at
like you don't know how everything is gonna turn out so it's better to play it safe
Yeah but u can't tell. I was so stupid for my intern app I told Google I had an offer at a startup they were like cool no problem we'll just stop this here
Still regret this :))
lmao I guess no longer sharing my offer deadlines haha
o wtf
my experience has been the same as hiru
i told companies i was having final round with msft and everyone expedited me
I already said I have a return offer and they see the company I interned for so that should be good enough for them
Maybe just say interviewing instead of an offer then @grave gull
nah i got expedited even more after i told them i had an offer
ight I am hitting up the recruiter rn
True but new companies might not want to go through the whole process then? honestly idk I have just been sharing my deadlines
like you know what I changed my mind, here are the company names and the deadlines hurry up bitchez
legit right after I got an offer from a "big" company i emailed all my recruiters and most if not all of them were happy to expedite
Alright I will see what dates they give me for the rest of the process
if it's too far stretched I will talk to the recruiter
In that case, what would you say is a safe date to tell the recruiter?
Like I have a deadline withing next 3 weeks or month?
Most places I know have Nov 1st from college requirements
MS does 2 weeks or college deadline
Idk I have a nov 1st but my friend only got an oct 1st from a diff company
I have oct 1 and itās mad stressful
had two technical screens and an on-site loop this week, and the same next week (+ another pending onsite, msft PLS come thru)
but Iām also tryharding because I donāt really want to take my return offer
Oct 1 is super early
When did you guys apply to MS?
Early August
I applied aug 23
Has anyone gotten the OA yet for Amazon Canada?
Doordash new grad also open
Donāt gotta link cuz Iām on mobile
But should be open
pls
language wont matter if your solution is actually optimal
how do people find these links, theyre not on the actual career pages
anyone know if palantir onsite is data questions or just generic leetcode?
Has anyone taken Coinbase Hackerrank ?
Lol medium at best more towards easy side
CodeSignal is the most advanced assessment platform on the market. Simulate a realistic coding environment with features engineers use on the job every day.
doordash has a registered page on codesignal
wonder if that means they use it for their oas too
probably do
Does the jp morgan codevue really have med/hard dp? lol
@eager glacier medium, def not hard
@last linden Damn CodeSignal yet again š¤¦āāļø
@winter ice , are you saying you got lc easy for microsoft final round?
no for the oa
final round im told is with people in a specific team, 4 back to back and the engineers make their own questions
@eager glacier I got 12/12 for one and 3/12 for the other for IMC and still got the next round video interview
@eager glacier I got 12/12 for one and 3/12 for the other for IMC and still got the next round video interview
@mild pelican how long did it take?
Like a day i think
@mild pelican have you gotte any response since the video interview?
@fleet niche Nah, I took it on Sunday and haven't heard back yet. Think I did okay though
lmfao I got the video interview and got rejected after that
but I thought I did well on it too
how long did it take to find out
video->rejection?
yeah
8/19 -> 9/1
oh damn okay, thanks
has anyone done this year's msft onsite?
just got an invitation, there were 2 date options
I applied for msft but didn't hear back
@languid solstice did you already do your phone screen?
I haven't heard for phone screen either. applied in mid Aug
Anyone done a phone interview before the onsite with Amazon?
so, i heard nothing from them but i actually got directly invited to onsite out of the blue i think bc i interviewed with them last year
to clarify last year i passed the inital round but chose not to go to the onsite, so i guess they "saved" my progress
oh I see
interesting, i wonder what this means for peeps who made it to onsite but got rejected
haha not to call you out or anything but was that you? im j wondering what the onsite was like if anyone went last yr
yeah that was me lol
it was for intern, they changed the process midway through the application season so i only had two rounds
but new grad had 4 rounds
not for me
but they did for some friends of mine that interviewed
donāt remember the specifics but it was literally a problem that the team was running into a month before the interview date
okay
also i guess i'd be optimistic if i were u bc i can't imagine that me declining to go on the onsite is that different from not passing the onsite on their end, ig it's possible but that seems like a lot of effort
yeah theoretically it should assume we're both qualified enough to make it pass the first round
i haven't heard anything so far and my recruiter last year hasn't responded to any of my messages, plus i don't think they're coming back to my campus to recruit so i've been in the dust rn
the real perk of the onsite honestly was just being in seattle and having MS pay for hotel/food/travel/tourism. Was definitely one of the best interview experiences even if I didn't get the offer. Kind of disappointing they won't be able to provide the same this year around but ya know pandemic and all
Anyone do the IBM back-end OA?
Has anyone done Robinhood OA?
@winter ice yeah it's codesignal š¦
@patent surge IBM OAs are very easy in general. I'd be surprised if get LC med
Wondering what the optimal solution to a specific problem is
I had a 2 line solution that did 9/13 test cases, lmao.
Actually, never mind that, I just brained it.
Doing OAs before bed is never smart, kids.
@wind acorn how difficult was it?
codesignal is hit or miss
could be 1 easy 1 med 2 hards
or you could get 2 easies 2 meds
ive never had a codesignal one. Pretty nervous about it lol
i think there is a practice one u can do. but its not the same thing
honestly you'll never know if you're ready bc it's kinda varied
it's just do you feel prepared or not
the format is always the same
does anyone know what is the compensation for bloomberg new grad
was he offered recently
was he a return intern?
Based on levels 150k is pretty common
@eager root she graduated May 2020, received offer early March
and no she's not a return intern
140-150k with 20k signing bonus seems like the going rate based on levels
yeah i heard that's quite standard for bloomberg
I heard it depends on when you will graduate
if you graduate before 2021 they can get you on board anytime you want
not too sure about this tho
Anyone know how hard Robinhood code signal is?
^^
How long does robinood take to contact back after the codesignal?
aa k 
Anyone know how hard citadel final round is
U can find out brettany
Anyone done vmware final round yet?
gl
were there onsite dates before this week? or are you talking about experiences from last year? @worthy spear
Pretty sure next week is first ones
Has anyone taken the code signal for Scale AI ?
Maybe experience from last year as well
got an email asking if i was interested in google cloud technical residency and said no because it wasnt software did i fuck up?
Yes.

Probably would have been worth your time to at least see what they were offering
Google is Google, still has room for growth and movement within the company.
right but i heard its pretty much a year long internship
Paid?
yeah average $80k though
In Cali?
austin
Oh, that's pr competitive there
thats about average for software
you move around 3 different areas in cloud and then you get placed in one
not just tech based
Still pretty good, tbh.
Iām going to event to learn about it
What event?
I think u become a cloud support engineer and not an SWE after this program?
Can anyone shed light/ have talked to people gone through this
Yeah the person who contacted me explicitly said it's not software engineering
Yeah the person who contacted me explicitly said it's not software engineering
@whole plover i think it was good you denied. No name is big enough to give up your worth š
Damn š¤£
lol
Anyone taken Codility for DRW?
šļø
Did other people who took robinhood or databricks Code Signal have to share webcam&screen while showing the government ID?
yeah i think codesignal is always like that
I didnāt have to do that for robinhood codesignal
@nova gyro hmm cuz neither of them did that for my OA, so I was wondering if that was technical issue on my own
@runic kraken i see! thanks for letting me know i feel a little relieved
@nova gyro https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/comments/ij630c/codesignal_general_coding_assessment_without/ I also found this where someone says that not every company requires proctoring? not sure if that's official or not
3 votes and 7 comments so far on Reddit
A lot of people I know didnāt have to but some people did
ah k
Has anyone heard of CodeBreakers?
Yeah I got a LinkedIn request from one of the guys behind it. If you get a job with $140k + salary they want 20% for 18 months or something like that
What do you guys feel about that?
Did any of y'all sign up for CodeBreakers?
Sounds like I have nothing to lose if I don't get a job over $100k
what's their success rate?
it depends on what options you have right now
i don't think using their services is unethical or anything
What do they do in return?
I mean I'm sure it's still you have to do what you'd anyways have to do without them
it's still prepping problems,..ds, algs,
Yeah and youd still have to apply online like everyone else
I just had a call with them and they say that their success rate is 93% and they aim to get recent grads jobs averaging 130k, if you get anything less than 100k you don't have to pay anything, but for anything over 100k you pay 15% of your income for 18 months.
They also said they have an internal network with FAANG companies, and right now they are mostly aiming to get you jobs in Amazon since Amazon is hiring extensively right now.
perks include: helping you connect and talk to recruiters, help you connect with recruiters because their CEO works at Google and they have a team of 20 coaches all of which who work at top tech companies
Their CEO (Darek Johnson) messaged me on LinkedIn.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/fwxv7k/reflection_on_pathrise_still_not_worth_it/ review of a similar program
56 votes and 31 comments so far on Reddit
let's take Amazon's new grad base salary, which is apparently 112k. WA state does not have income tax, so assuming you pay 15% of your income for 18 months, that's $1,400 per month for $25,200 total. that's like paying rent for a whole second apartment
But think about how hard it is to get a job at Amazon, and they told me they have a 93% success rate for their program and claim that their program can help you get in better shape to land interviews and pass interviews at Amazon.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/fwxv7k/reflection_on_pathrise_still_not_worth_it/ review of a similar program
@flint halo what do you think about this review? https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/b36gqq/pathrise_a_review_from_the_perspective_of_a/
56 votes and 31 comments so far on Reddit
3 votes and 2 comments so far on Reddit
Also gotta keep in mind that salaries in those geographic locations are higher also as it's more expensive to live there
If smth looks too good to be true, most likely it is
93% success rate sounds to sketchy
Sounds like I have nothing to lose if I don't get a job over $100k
@tribal timber beware I also got his message.
Think about it you have to pay him some money even if you get job with the salary of 70k
And charging 10k for just teaching DS, Algo is stupid.
And asked him to show me the agreement which i have to sign but he refused.
And this guy specifically targets international students because he knows in the case of any dispute student on visa will not fight.
And again 10k for just ds algo is bullshit!
From the company FAQs:
Do I still need to pay for jobs CodeBreakers does not refer me to?
Yes. Any job you accept with salary above our Income Share Agreement minimum regardless of who introduces you to the position.
If you get a job paying at least $140,000, you would pay CodeBreakers 20% of your total salary for 18 months after you start working.
lol essentially freeriders/scammers
they even have progressive tax lmao
But think about how hard it is to get a job at Amazon, and they told me they have a 93% success rate for their program and claim that their program can help you get in better shape to land interviews and pass interviews at Amazon.
@tribal timber getting into amazon is not hard man. If you have dedication and if you work smart you can get in.
There is a reason this guy specifically targets amazon.
Tell him that i will pay 40% if you get me into facebook and he will back out
@tribal timber what happens if you get PIPed at Amazon after one year? how would you continue to pay codebreakers back?
Message 1000 kids, make 20 of them sign, 5 of them find a job and there you have 6 figs of income
Rinse and repeat
Co> Rinse and repeat
@languid plaza exactly
also they say "paying at least"...which sounds vague enough to include total TC. elsewhere in the faq they mention repaying based on your "Earned Income" which legally includes salary, bonus, and vested stock
so that monthly payment is going to be even more than $1,400
And what if amazon offers 80k stock and the vesting schedule is 5, 15, 40,40
Do i also have to pay 20 % on that amout ?
Pretty much it's just this guy's way to make huge passive income from doing nothing
@tribal timber if you want something to learn DS, algo i will say do udemy, leetcode and if you think that's not enough check out thesuper30.com.
That guy charges like 1000 dollars. I don't think you need this, but if you make up your mind 1000 dollars <<<<< 25k lmao
@rose zodiac funny you mentioned about international students because I am one and right now I'm desperate in need of a job because if I don't get one within three months of my graduation I get kicked out of the country. Considering this, do you guys have the same opinion about CodeBreakers? Do you think CodeBreakers could be beneficial for me even if it comes with that big 25-40k price?
I really appreciate all your guys' opinions about this and helping me out. It means a lot!
@tribal timber i am also an international student.
That's the point this guys are taking advantage of our weakness. Make sure to not fall for it.
Anybody know what to expect from DRW Codility?
Anybody know what to expect from DRW Codility?
@vernal crystal leetcode medium
@rose zodiac All 3 questions?
Yes, medium but on the easy side. You can easily solve all 3 in 1 hour.
@rose zodiac Thanks! Appreciate it
Hi, is google new grad applications deadline over? Is there another role for New grad ?
I dont think Google US new grad open yet
It's showing applications for this role are now closed
oh shit my bad
haha no issue
Anyone know what platform the SAP labs SVNT test is on?
@tribal timber honestly thereās so many programs and websites like CodeBreakers out there. FAANG bootcamps, S30 for Indian students, InterviewCake, Algoexpert, and so on.
Do what you think works best for you, but in the end itās you that has to put in the work to understand these ds&A problems, big O, etc and answer the questions. Just because you finish a program doesnāt mean youāre guaranteed a job. Iād say just stick to one and keep at it!
But I see the stress youāre feeling where you have to secure a job or you get kicked out, good luck man you got this! Feel free to dm anytime š
@tribal timber I think you are over estimating how hard it is to get a job at a place like Amazon, presuming you have a CS degree and can do leetcode Mediums. You're very likely to get an OA from them if you apply to a new grad software engineering role with a reasonable resume. Then if you pass the OA, which will probably be a leetcode medium, you're probably going to get invited to the next round, which will likely just be more leetcode medium.
My buddy even got asked some leetcode easy by amazon, it was not a hard process for him.
@old kestrel last year palantir on-site was system design, finding bugs and leetcode med
Thx
Anyone do Chicago Trading Company?
Happy Amazon final round announcements day folks, may the odds be ever in your favor
is there any confirmation mail when someone refers you to amazon?
@buoyant grove You need to get referred before applying I believe. I got an email with a link to apply after a referral
i was referred yesterday , but did not get any confirmation till now , but the job shows as draft in my amazon jobs account is this fine?
i dont think they will get back to everyone today from amazon.
Any dudes know goldman superday acceptance rate?
Think i bombed my behavioural. Fuuuarrrrk
I hate behaviorals. The times i got an offer were because I didn't have a behavioral lmao
After Coinbase OA, is it a phone interview with the recruiter?
ye
How does Bloomberg phone interview work? Do they link you an editor and talk over the phone? Or do you just explain you code and not type anything?
I hate behaviorals. The times i got an offer were because I didn't have a behavioral lmao
@frosty forum facts man. Stop asking me when i had a time where i .....
i dont think they will get back to everyone today from amazon.
yeah i dont think so either, it's probs pushed back a week to account for the extended OA3 deadline
@sinful hawk I just scheduled mine, and they added a hackerrank link in their online portal (basically a codePad)
How high have companies been having their codesignal cutoffs? Ran out of time to fix a null pointer on my last question and the score took a heavy hit :((
@eager glacier Did vmware oa, i think it was 2 lc easies and then a medium
oh shit i forgot about those lol. yeah about DS/Aglo and maybe some syntax
Did amazon stop giving OAs?
has anyone done karat before? just wondering what the format is like?
I've done it last year for palantir. It's just like a typical technical interview but you can book pretty much whenever you want.
Anyone know what the cutoff range for the databricks codesignal is?
Idk if I should do a new one or just send my robinhood one
Same I just got it haha and I'm debating waiting
It's 2 week deadline and I took rh like 2 days ago though so idk if I want to wait that long
What are yall's coding scores on codesignal
I think I'll just send my robinhood one in
I got 833
lost a lot of points to time
I didn't know time was a factor rip
Yea I got just under that, I'll probably do the same
Honestly Iām probably gonna retake it
if I take it again will it overwrite my old score?
or can I choose which one to send
You can choose which one to send
I saw somewhere on codesignal that you can edit ur code report and chose which is visible
But idk if thatās what gets sent
asdfas codesignal marks https://leetcode.com/problems/valid-sudoku/ as an easy question
what do their hard questions look like
i think they review resume after codesignal
so ur codesignal score doesnāt matter as much as u think it does
mine was low compared to others on this server and i still got an interview
others had much higher than mine and got rejected
Anyone hear from Amazon yet?
Not yet
Others mentioned that because of the OA3 delay there might be a delay hearing back about final interviews
Amazon is delaying new OAs also
Does anyone know what is Verizonās on demand interview like?
Anyone finished with Citrix's OA yet?
Anyone applied Mastercard here? I applied for 2021 and they sent me pymetrics for 2019 yesterday and another pymetrics for 2020 this morning...
At this rate I might want to wait for 2021 one tomorrow /s
@azure ember Citrix OA is basically three easies
Does anyone have a template for reaching out to recruiters you interviewed with last year?
I just hit mine up and told him everything I have done so far - how I've improved, projects/internships ive done and feel confident about interviewing again (if u got rejected last time). also linked the job i want to apply to. thats pretty much it.
Is that from lc?
yeah @candid garnet DM me if you wanna talk
Holy fuck the thoughtspot final round sounds aids. Itās 5.5-6 hours
I miss onsites 
I had a 7h final round virtual onsite
^ omg lol i could never

