Hey guys! Just curious, if I graduate Fall 2022 am I eligible to apply for 2022 full time roles?
#2021_grads
scenic tusk
dry walrus
Which one @dry walrus
@tired bay Backend
tired bay
@scenic tusk Yeah that’s what most do for off cycle graduation then ask for start up date to be moved up but I would plan on expecting to start Summer 2023
@dry walrus I did data science so can’t help
dry walrus
@dry walrus I did data science so can’t help
@tired bay oh that's fine np!
How was data science?
tired bay
It was mostly writing answers to stats ML questions not that bad then one medium SQL and one easy coding
dry walrus
Thanks 🙂
fleet niche
Oof messed up some of those IMC online interview questions
Oddly specific technical questions I guess I just wasn’t used to them
dapper vale
rip, dw i'm boutta crash and burn this thing
mild pelican
LIke what? taking my OA tn
fleet niche
From what I’ve seen it’s p random, but it’s like CS topics trivia
mild pelican
Interesting
fleet niche
And some about algos, those were alright though
mild pelican
Anyone have any success with applying from Jumpstart? Feel like its too easy to apply to shit on there so there are always too many applicants
fleet niche
I have never gotten anything useful out of jumpstart, I just treat it as a forum
Lol didn’t they market themselves as a place where companies come to find you
dapper vale
tfw you have to update macOS to meet the system requirements for recorded video interview
mild pelican
My friend is a returning intern at Mongo. He said his class is 40 people, every single one is a returning intern. Told me not to even apply bc they only gonna take returning interns
warm stone
that is crazy
tired bay
Then why post an application 🙃
worthy spear
Probably in case some of them don't take the offer
sterile summit
I have a return offer from Mongo, fairly high, not FANG high though, albeit with a lot fewer spots, they do mostly source from returning though
bold gull
@mild pelican yes i got an internship through jumpstart
true folio
what to study for the bloomberg phone, anyone?
proper rover
Leetcode discussion and tagged question
languid solstice
is the goldman sachs hirevue just behavioral?
tired bay
Yes @languid solstice
gloomy plaza
Anyone know how long it takes to hear back about next steps after you finish the Hirevue for Goldman?
turbid furnace
Can 2021 grads apply for internships? Seems like there's a better scope for it
warm stone
Anyone know what companies allow you to bring your dog or cat to the office?
@eager glacier Amazon
mint skiff
@turbid furnace I feel like, in general, it's easier to land a new grad job than an internship. For internships you are competing with three cohorts
turbid furnace
@turbid furnace I feel like, in general, it's easier to land a new grad job than an internship. For internships you are competing with three cohorts
@mint skiff But you have more spots as well
plain spade
It's easier to land a newgrad position if you have 3 prior internships and a return offer
rigid elbow
But companies do prefer to cut internship than to cut new grad positions in times like this
grave gull
oooooo boi new grad this year is so much more worse than internship
rigid elbow
Eh thats uber itself
cerulean pivot
ur sample size is like 1
quick lodge
is uber giving out return offers?
warm stone
internship interview is much easier and positions are more
flint halo
way more intern apps out rn than new grad apps
cerulean pivot
theyre figuring out headcount for next year before officially extending return offers
rigid elbow
I really don't see it that way
Just overall trend I see is less intern open than new grad
correct me if Im wrong ofc
cerulean pivot
not all new grads at uber got cut last march btw
cerulean pivot
the layoffs at the time were targeted towards low performers & redundant teams
warm stone
😂
mint skiff
Oh rip maybe I'm wrong
mint skiff
But, I'm confused why would you want an internship if you graduate 2021? Just to buy you more time to apply for full time positions?
rigid elbow
If you can't get a fulltime its better to have an internship than none
warm stone
get return is easier than directly find a job
tawdry herald
Anyone do the DRW Quant Trading Analyst OA?
rigid elbow
Not all intern-seekers are looking after return offer though
Just for resume-filling too internship does help
flint halo
yeah but the company’s goal is to convert as many interns as possible (given minimum performance standards)
mint skiff
wait so if u intern after graduating, can you just get a return offer that starts right after your internship ends?
flint halo
one person at my internship did
mint skiff
dude if that's the case for FB, then I'm tryna apply for FB internship lmao
flint halo
normally internships don’t allow graduating seniors, so the ones that do are probably open to the idea
fallen iris
Asking for a friend and I couldn’t find info on this but
“Can community colleges students apply for internships too? Most qualifications ask for BS/MS in a university”
fervent berry
Google mentions AS on its new grad position so maybe?
Never seen any CC intern tho so maybe they should get really lucky
arctic drift
Recruiting this year is actually fucked lol
fallen iris
Hm I see maybe there’s only a few out there then that ask for “some degree” vs specifically a “bs/ms from a university”
fervent berry
I have seen people intern at nasa from CC
flint halo
if you're planning on transferring to a 4-year uni I would say that it's def okay, it might be worth noting on the resume as well
arctic drift
Honestly for CC internships just apply
Like what’s the worst they’re going to do
Reject you?
flint halo
also a few government programs are targeted directly towards CC students
fervent berry
But nasa always has some bs internships besides legit ones
arctic drift
Everyone’s getting rejected anyways 😎😎😎
fervent berry
^ this lol
arctic drift
I highkey regret fully transitioning into cs this year
fucked myself over lmfao
don't do physics and cs kids
just fucking choose one
mint skiff
@arctic drift same but premed and cs
frosty forum
fallen burrow
ya me too. something is better than nothing
spiral lantern
Doubt my VISA would let me apply for internships.
pliant steppe
has amazon released their second batch of OAs?
fallen burrow
for full time, not yet.
full shore
How do companies like grade interviews? Like if you have a two part interview are you scored and then it decided or?
cerulean pivot
usually out of scale of 4
or some companies do like
strong no, weak no, weak yes, strong yes
wind acorn
lowkey maybe this should be in #rant but it's more relevant here since everyone is graduating but like this is such a bad year 
corona + layoffs + rescinded offers + more competition for full time + no senior year (since it's all online)
grave gull
idt snap's released public apps for years
they've always seemed to be recruiting internally
verbal leaf
Did anyone receive Amazon OA yesterday or this week?
Did anyone receive Amazon OA yesterday or this week?
@verbal leaf OA1 - fresh batch*
stark otter
Just got a facebook referral and i died inside when i got to know all of them get rejected
I applied amazon on 24th and yeah nothing
I have a friend on 5th and they havent either
azure ember
languid plaza
Seems like both sides of the table are getting rekt by Robinhood
mild pelican
anyone else tank IMC's OA
tired bay
@azure ember Looks like dev forgot to show the button 🤣
silver halo
pretty sure it opens up on sept 7
tired bay
True well glad to see apps finally gonna open although not SWE yet
fleet niche
Ngl I completely forgot what IMC's OA was like is this the codilty before video interview @mild pelican
worthy spear
has anyone heard back from Google for their intern to FTE conversion for 2021?
static rune
@worthy spear Have you interviewed? I had my interviews yesterday
worthy spear
@worthy spear Have you interviewed? I had my interviews yesterday
@static rune Yes, I had mine in May. I have been told that HC for 2021 hasn't started yet so it has been submitted yet.
worldly crest
I thought google opens apps in mid september?
tired bay
They are talking about conversions interns still go through interviews to continue at google for full time
worldly crest
ah bet
static rune
Hmmm. I wasn't told anything about conversion not starting yet, especially since I mentioned that I have final round interviews with other companies
Also, they should open applications for everyone else very soon
astral garnet
@worthy spear My recruiter told me she'd have decision by 9/11
as in , decision from HC to extend offer or not
worthy spear
@astral garnet when did you have your interviews and what's your joining month?
worthy spear
Okay and when do you plan to start at Google, if offered?
astral garnet
iunno
static rune
@worthy spear @astral garnet Google is in perf review process right now, so they'd probably re-start the hiring process after that
Quicker way to hear from them might be having competing offers?
tepid minnow
Quicker way to hear from them might be having competing offers?
@static rune Reach out to the recruiters or wait for them to release the application ?
Does anyone know what is the best way to talk about a competing offer in order to start the process with a company ?
worthy spear
@static rune iirc perf ends on September end, right?
sterile summit
has anyone heard back from Google for their intern to FTE conversion for 2021?
@worthy spear passed HC this week
They are talking about conversions interns still go through interviews to continue at google for full time
@tired bay not always, but typically yes
astral garnet
TF? @sterile summit that was really fast, when did you do your conversion interviews? DId you ask them to expedite or something?
sterile summit
I didn't have to do interviews, I finished in the spring, and I had a competing
sterile summit
yap
astral garnet
Ahhh gotcha that makes sense then, well congrats
sterile summit
thanks haha! team match is still hell, gotta love G's process
worthy spear
When are planning to start? Or what was the date you told them?
sterile summit
the last time they asked I think I said June, but AFAIK it's team dependent and in most cases a non-issue
worthy spear
Okay, thank you
sterile summit
no prob!
static rune
Does anyone know what is the best way to talk about a competing offer in order to start the process with a company ?
@tepid minnow Well, it usually only works when the company already wants to interview you
thanks haha! team match is still hell, gotta love G's process
@sterile summit Congrats! Do you get an offer before team match? If so, how do they take into account the difference in cost of living at different places (compensation wise)
sterile summit
Thanks! Nope, while offer before team match is I think possible if you really want it as a return, I think they geolock you to the bay and you don't get a say in your team, but typically it's team match -> offer
static rune
I see. Thanks!
tender dune
does anyone know if microsoft asks system design questions or is it leetcode only?
tired bay
For PM I think they ask some system design in final rounds but wouldn’t expect it for SWE
grizzled cargo
@tender dune I got a LC medium and LC hard at swe intern on-site last year
From what I’ve heard, sys design is not common for new grad swe (but things seem to vary a lot from interviewer to interviewer)
tender dune
@grizzled cargo And is it common to get LC hard or does that depend on the interviewer as well?
wind acorn
anyone do the phone screen with nova credit
warm stone
amazon does not have many headcount this year
tired bay
Amazon announced they hiring 10k more obviously a lot of fulfillment center stuff but they not slowing down imo
warm stone
@warm stone do u have a source on that
@severe mirage heard rumor about it and the resume rejection rate is way more than last year
echo cedar
I was wondering if anyone else got insta-rejected by Amazon this year. I applied on 8/24, rejected 8/26, but I reached final round last year and have better experience this year. However, on my application portal it says status is still "Application Submitted," not "No longer under consideration." Anyone in the same boat?
tired bay
I think they just have a more well defined process and requirements this year by giving results quicker and in waves
verbal leaf
Amazon new grad auto reject
@tepid minnow did u get the update today?
cerulean pivot
yeah
tepid minnow
@tepid minnow did u get the update today?
@verbal leaf Saw it today
verbal leaf
@tepid minnow may I ask when u got that?
queen burrow
Karan, did you get an email with a rejection?
hollow forge
@tepid minnow can you tell the applied and decision dates?
rose zodiac
I was wondering if anyone else got insta-rejected by Amazon this year. I applied on 8/24, rejected 8/26, but I reached final round last year and have better experience this year. However, on my application portal it says status is still "Application Submitted," not "No longer under consideration." Anyone in the same boat?
@echo cedar Yes many people are facing this issue. One of my friend emailed amazon about this and they replied that there is some bug in the system which is sending out random resume reject. So if your status is application submitted you are good.
verbal leaf
Amazon new batch got OA today?
tepid minnow
Karan, did you get an email with a rejection?
@queen burrow No I just checked my university jobs portal
@tepid minnow may I ask when u got that?
@verbal leaf Had applied on 13th Aug and checked the status today
echo cedar
@echo cedar Yes many people are facing this issue. One of my friend emailed amazon about this and they replied that there is some bug in the system which is sending out random resume reject. So if your status is application submitted you are good.
@rose zodiac thanks a lot! I was about to apply with a different email haha
rose zodiac
@rose zodiac thanks a lot! I was about to apply with a different email haha
@echo cedar I will suggest wait for a day and if the status is still submitted, email amaon. Let's see what reply you get.
worthy spear
Can I apply for summer 2021 internships if I graduate Spring 2021?
echo cedar
@rose zodiac yeah I’m not sure how long it’s been stuck on submitted, since I’ve been applied for a bit and just didn’t check after the email. I’ll definitely try emailing Amazon though to see if anything is up. Thanks again!
quick lodge
my "applied to date" in amazon university changed to like a recent date? did anyone face this as well?
fallen iris
Mine is still 7/31
Application submitted
Amazon announced they hiring 10k more obviously a lot of fulfillment center stuff but they not slowing down imo
@tired bay
Wish it’d be 10 k new grads 😆
hasty cairn
just bombed my neeva interview
low verge
@chrome sundial mine was a mix of both
sinful hawk
How long does it take to get hirevue from Goldman Sachs after Hackerank?
royal abyss
just bombed my neeva interview
@hasty cairn I haven't completed the assessment yet, was this a phone interview?
tired bay
@sinful hawk Took 2 weeks for me
sinful hawk
Ty
hasty cairn
@royal abyss yeah over google meet
mental frigate
@hasty cairn coding or just technical questions?
hasty cairn
@mental frigate (I interviewed for front end) it’s technical questions and coding, the coding is like “do you know how to code” type questions, the technical part was obscure questions about JavaScript
It’s just a conjecture, but I think it is a luck of the draw with regard to the technical questions
mental frigate
@hasty cairn is there a different application for frontend? Or do they tell you specifically that you're interviewing for frontend?
hasty cairn
In terms of your interviewer
Uhh when you apply, you get the choice of doing a project for front end, back end, or data science, depending on what you choose here the process continues in that manner
mental frigate
@hasty cairn and what about msft? Was that coding?
Heard they changed format to cs trivia and behavioral for 30 min phone screen
hasty cairn
I haven’t done it yet, my prep is going through fundamentals in data structures and algorithms and doing the most seen onsite interview questions on leetcode premium
But my interview is sept 23ish
winged kelp
@flint halo did you apply this year for msft?
hard pebble
I applied to AMZN new grad on Aug 26 w/ a referral...status is still application submitted. Anyone else at this stage?
unkempt echo
yup, im at the same stage
chrome sundial
@low verge so just took it and it was all tech but it easy level, interesting to see it was different
low verge
yeah my interviewer spent 20 or so minutes on my resume
then went on to my technical question
unkempt echo
non-site
keen onyx
@hasty cairn What kind of a background does Neeva want?
Just want to get a general idea about how to get past the resume screening
stark otter
@hasty cairn did you apply for Software Engineer
full bear
@hasty cairn lol I got the project challenge thing but haven't done it, did you do it?
sage grotto
how much gap between the application and project thing?
I applied like 2 weeks ago but still no reply from Neeva
cerulean mist
Does everyone get the Facebook Codesignal when they apply?
full bear
Neeva: applied july 17, got challenge aug 31 lmao
cerulean mist
Nah, just debating a cold application vs contacting a recruiter
stark otter
I had a referral separately aswell
cerulean mist
Oof
stark otter
but its been like a week so I will wait
they say it takes 2 weeks
for rejections
cerulean mist
verbal leaf
Does everyone get the Facebook Codesignal when they apply?
@cerulean mist what is the role?
cerulean mist
Software Engineer New Grad
proper rover
fb’s first round is codesignal?
tired bay
They used it for freshman thing this year
proper rover
What’s the freshman thing?
stark otter
with referrals i heard its direct interview
but most referrals are rejected on resume round lol
proper rover
How long did they hear back from fb?
proper rover
Ohh thanks
tired bay
FBU freshman/sophomore program they had first round CodeSignal
tired bay
Microsoft reached out for clearance role when I don’t have a clearance 😫
worthy spear
Did people start hearing back from Microsoft already? I applied on Aug 19, and still routed to recruiter with another random submitted application, does this mean it’s a rejection?
tidal hazel
thats what mine is at^ also applied with a referral
i think for university roles its common to get routed to recruiter and a new app pops up in its place
latent cipher
yeah it’s not a rejection it’s just the equivalent of application submitted
but yes people have been hearing back
tidal hazel
oof, i applied aug 18, not a peep
worthy spear
Well, hope they are still reviewing applications
latent cipher
i imagine so and i hope so for sure
worthy spear
Is it a good idea to message ms recruiters on LinkedIn to check on my application
tepid minnow
I reached out to a recruiter telling her about my offer deadline
and I got the first round immediately that night
for Microsoft
Now I am not sure if it's co-incidence or did reaching out really help but I reached out to her in the afternoon and got the first round scheduled at night
tired bay
They did for FBU so I’m sure they might for other roles
cursive loom
is FBU fb internship?
tired bay
The freshman/sophomore thing whatever it’s called
mental frigate
@tepid minnow did you know it was your university recruiter or it was a random one?
cursive loom
just some multiple choice hting
tired bay
Facebook and Google have ghosted me every season
cursive loom
google gives me OA and then ghosts
facebook at least lets me get to final round before i disappoint them
latent cipher
does anyone know if you get an email if you’re referred at fb?
other than a rejection email apparently
tepid minnow
@tepid minnow did you know it was your university recruiter or it was a random one?
@mental frigate Luckily, the Director of Microsoft University Recruiting was already in my Linkedin Network so I reached out to her directly.
mild pelican
@latent cipher you get an email saying they'll be in touch with next steps, thats what i got
latent cipher
@mild pelican thank you
verbal leaf
Microsoft reached out for clearance role when I don’t have a clearance 😫
@tired bay what is a clearance role?
tired bay
Government clearance is expected Microsoft expected to do business with US government with JEDI contract so they have those roles this year
@verbal leaf
verbal leaf
Oh should you do something for that clearance?
fallow mist
@tepid minnow do you suggest finding a specific recruiter to message or can i also just send a message saying the same thing to the generic university email?
tired bay
@verbal leaf Usually companies sponsors for it its massive amounts of paperwork. I think they are searching for people that already have one but I asked to make sure
verbal leaf
Cool let us know in here if you get an update 🤙
patent surge
When lockheed has your resume for over 5 weeks and doesn't even have the audacity to reject you
😭
cursive loom
theyre too busy playing microsoft flight simulator, give them time
stark otter
Ms does things in its own pace
warm stone
still not received any message from ms
nova gyro
warm stone
maybe my rejection will come soon😂
stark otter
Anyone who applied to ms with a referral?
mild pelican
I had a referral, havent heard anything
arctic drift
^ same thign
tepid minnow
@tepid minnow do you suggest finding a specific recruiter to message or can i also just send a message saying the same thing to the generic university email?
@fallow mist I don’t think generic university email would work
hasty cairn
@keen onyx r there's 3 tracks, front-end, back-end and data science.. i'm on the front-end track. their front-end is written in React (Typescript), which is incidentally what i use for some projects. i think they may use go or python on the back-end. idk what was going on on the data science side.
@stark otter yeah
@full bear yeah you have to to advance
how come we don't trade recruiter contacts like pokemon cards
tired bay
@eager glacier I reached out to recruiter from last year haven’t heard back
fervent berry
Do companies hire new grads for entry level positions which are not explicitly declared as “new grad”?
tired bay
Depends on company but smaller to mid-sized that’s probs how it is don’t really have “new grad” some places
wind acorn
anyone get past DiDi's OA? they sent me a rejection even though I passed all the tests with a ton of time to spare.
tired bay
No
stark otter
@hasty cairn woah thanks for the info, I guess it’s a great fit I am mostly react and python flask
@fervent berry yeah they do but the interview process might be different based on the company
The package is a bit different too with either more signing and less package or other way
warm stone
does tesla hire new grad?
wind acorn
(deleted & reposted from #2021_grad_process)
Did anyone do the Akuna Capital Campus Web challenge (JavaScript/Python only)
void bobcat
does citadel do automatic coding challenge screen?
because I got one instantaneously and probably won't do it if im gonna just get immediately rejected afterwards lol
warm stone
yes @warm stone
@hasty cairndo you know which position? I can not find it😂 thx
hasty cairn
i think you just apply lol.. i got hit up by a tesla recruiter and he says they're hiring all levels all across the org. like idk if its specifically new grad targeted ever
he said he's looking for a swe with 10 years of experience but new grads will do lol
which might say something in and of itself but, if you're passionate about the mission then screw it
tidal hazel
@wind acorn yeah
hasty cairn
@wind acorn yeah i did, it's 3 questions. they're not bad at all, it's like 2 easy's and a medium
and they give you 1:45 so you'll prob have left over time
tidal hazel
what he said^
fallen iris
Anyone do Ocient OA for swe?
high thunder
@void bobcat yeah but if you don’t do it you’ll never know :))
wind acorn
@hasty cairn @tidal hazel thanks y'all
devout bobcat
hey is GS application closed?
ocean pewter
does anyone here know anything about datadog? (may 2020 grad looking at recent grads position)
spiral lantern
https://oracle.taleo.net/careersection/3/jobdetail.ftl?job=20000PAC&tz=GMT-07%3A00&srcUNV-10061
This role requires candidates to have less that 12 months experience. For someone like me who has 2 years of workexp in India, I would be autorejected right?
ocean pewter
I don't know about applying to stuff out of country but imo just apply, fuck it
sending applications is free, and writing a cover letter takes 10 minutes. you're gonna get overwhelming auto rejects so you gotta send out a lot of applications to deal with it
winged kelp
Don't reject yourself
ocean pewter
that's a good mentality
spiral lantern
That didnt stop me from applying 🙂 Was just curious if out-of-country work exp counts in the US
ocean pewter
a lot of the time job credential postings are just a wish list compiled by someone who doesn't understand dev/cs at all
spiral lantern
Tbh I think the less than 12 months exp is genuinely a good thing..
ocean pewter
wdym
where are the less than 12 months hiring now positions? that's what I am looking for, I have graduated
spiral lantern
Apparently Oracle is hiring in large numbers (or going to)
mental cove
@spiral lantern Have Oracle new grad roles come up?
spiral lantern
check the link I posted above. Its not explicitly stated new grad. But the requirements say that you need to be enrolled in uni and must have less than 12 months of non-internship exp
mental cove
@Thanks
low verge
@spiral lantern unethical, but you could just omit the experience from your resume
mint skiff
do all codesignal record screen and camera? can you look down at a notebook to solve the problems?
stark crypt
I had camera on but used my notebook to solve. score got verified today
mint skiff
for robinhood?
stark crypt
yes
mint skiff
ok nice
unkempt echo
my codesignal didnt have anything on
tidal hazel
neither did mine
leaden venture
I have 7 days to complete a task for codesignal. Can i close the browser and log back in whenever I want? Like will the test end when I close the browser?
flint halo
you need to do it in one sitting
leaden venture
No like the time limit is 7 days. The timer says 167 hours 52 minutes on codesignal
mint skiff
hmm the robinhood codesignal didn't ask for webcam or screenrecord or id
ok nvm i see ppl say the same thing above
how long does it take after akuna capital junior developer oa to hear response
high thunder
Akuna is pretty swamped with applications — they reached out like 3 weeks later
old kestrel
anyone have experience interviewing at jump trading?
stuck turtle
Is there a new GS opening ? Seen in #2021_grad_postings
dim pollen
I just got invited to the Amazon FTE SDE Virtual Blitz interviews. Has anyone experienced this before? What is it like?
nova maple
I just got invited to the Amazon FTE SDE Virtual Blitz interviews. Has anyone experienced this before? What is it like?
@dim pollen
Is this for new grad?
dim pollen
@nova maple yep
fallen iris
it might be the 3 interviews back to back, each about 45 mins not sure tbh. How'd you think you did on the OA's? @dim pollen
dim pollen
@fallen iris I did ok, not as great as last year. Got like 5/7 on the debugging, passed all test cases on the first coding problem, only passed 2 cases on the second problem (I’m assuming the problem with my implementation was time complexity)
No idea with the workplace simulation lmao
tidal hazel
yeah exactly same as you^
they combine all three together, so hopefully i did well on the workpace simulation
@dim pollen when dod u submit ur oa3?
fallen iris
from what I know, the final virtual interview is one of two cases.
- lp stuff, discussing your oa's, stuff from resume and thats really it
- 3 back to back 45 mins ish interviews, each with LP's as well as LC tagged coding problems
im not sure if they tell you if you'll be case 1 or 2 but the blitz kinda sounds like case 2
dim pollen
@tidal hazel Aug 25
tidal hazel
@stuck turtle p sure its the same opening?
fallen iris
did they say how long yours was gnna be?
dim pollen
@fallen iris oof 2 sounds about right
fallen iris
someone else that got called back the email told them it'd just be one interview for 30 mins
dim pollen
The 3 45 min interviews
fallen iris
so thats probably case 1
fallen iris
LEadership Principles
dim pollen
Ah got it
fallen iris
did your email say how long your interview(s) were gnna be?
nova maple
so thats probably case 1
@fallen iris they mention it specifically in the email whether it's case 1 or 2?
dim pollen
@fallen iris they will be 3 45 minute interviews
Will there be multiple people or is it just one-on-one?
fallen iris
they tell you like that ^^ but not like oh the 3,45 interviews will consist of.. @nova maple
usually just 1 on 1, but sometimes they have an extra person just there shadowing them
ranges from LC easy to hard, really is luck sometimes
fallen iris
ohh alright i gotcha
dim pollen
If it’s LC hard do they really expect a correct answer or just a thought out approach?
fallen iris
what were the interview slots, like a week out or something?
fallen iris
good luck! and hoenstly if i got an LC hard i'd just talk it out and try to brute force it
but def talk out so they can see what youre doing
and if time optimize it
it really depends on the interviewer, but when in doubt talk it out
stark otter
i mean if you get atleast one case right it is fine better than none
brute force ftw
but yeah best of luck
fallen iris
sounds good
stark otter
I have heard that interviewers appreciate sometimes if you talk them thru a brute force and then when they ask you improvements you give a better solution iteratively
instead of direct best case
dont know how right that is
dim pollen
I slowed down applying other places bc I was getting overwhelmed with coding challenges but I don’t want to apply too late.
Idk how everyone manages
stark otter
bruh same
patent surge
How many job apps for a single company can I apply to?
A lot of them have 4-5 different new grad positions, 2-3 of which I'd like a shot at.
daring bough
depends on the company
some will allow you to apply to multiple jobs like akuna
but others will let you be in the process for only one like robinhood
doesn't hurt to apply to many though
think you should do it
patent surge
:^) nice
mental cove
Can anyone please let me know the coding questions asked in JP Morgan OA ?
queen burrow
I got 2 DP-type problems. 1 easy 1 med
coral coral
@mental cove no
patent surge
I've now applied to 5 lockheed jobs and 3 ibm jobs
they literally cannot ghost me now
statistically impossible
safe veldt
@patent surge Are there Lockheed recruiting events for your school?
Thats how I got my internship
tidal hazel
@mental cove specific questions are against the rules of the discord, although im sure people will be willing to tell u difficulty levels, types of questions etc!
patent surge
Nah, they bailed on my college job fair last year.
It flooded the entire time, lmao.
near forge
Which email do you all use for applying to New Grad roles? The university one or the personal one?
patent surge
personal
I have a gmail account specifically for it
makes it ez
I just put down a couple and left out most of them
kinda awful tbh
near forge
That's a good idea!
Although, Is it any better to use the university one?
patent surge
No difference whatsoever, unless you maybe go to a target school.
mental cove
Any idea how good is GHC career fair is ? Do we get calls from companies there ?
stark otter
I have female classmates who got offers since they formed networks there and followed up with them
Not sure if its gonna be that useful this time since its online so your networking shd be a bit more limited
I didnt go for it
urban hemlock
Has the second round of Amazon new grad OAs been sent? I applied with referral few days after it opened and nothing yet
short pilot
Is it acceptable to ask the interviewer whether it's okay to code the solution in Python although my prior experience was in Java?
flint barn
Yeah its allowed
So, what's up with Amazon this time? I heard many people resume rejected. Is this true?
Yeah I applied on 17th with application still submitted
fallen iris
For the Amazon OA 1/2, I can’t remember, is python 3 allowed?
@eager glacier
It’s only java, c++, c for oa1.
Then add python and c# for oa2
Yeah it’s slow this year regardless of referral push, it’s based on the date applied and rolling basis
queen burrow
yep
stark otter
heard its easy to miss those tho
fallen iris
Yee 7 questions, harder than last year though imo
stark otter
yeah
torn ivy
Oracle doesn’t have a MA office ?
bold gull
@mental cove yes GHC career fair is the best. Did 13 interviews at the conference. Just make sure to plan as many interviews before the conference though
cerulean pivot
wtf lol
safe veldt
how many days did you spend doing the 13 interviews?
is that like 7 a day?
@bold gull
native ruin
Do python hacker ranks differ than regular hacker ranks (like java)
cerulean pivot
no
wind acorn
did anyone from the batch due this past Mon get results already?
curious how many are still waiting vs. how many already received rejections/next rounds
patent cloak
Seems like a lot of people are still waiting for results (like me). I wouldn’t worry until after this week
tidal hazel
@wind acorn u talking about amazon?
wind acorn
yeah
(soz for being unclear lol didn't realize i didn't even mention the name of the company) 🤣
tired bay
Yeah haven’t heard anything
tidal hazel
some people have slowly started hearing back n most of them are the 1-interview category, so we should all be hearing back soon
tired bay
Yeah deadline is Thursday for them to get back
worthy spear
:/ intently waiting for the result, getting final interview would be nice
tired bay
I’m expecting reject but we shall see
wind acorn
^ samee lol
fallen iris
@wind acorn yeah still waiting but not expecting anything cuz i choked on one of the problems of oa2. More people I know keep hearing back making me anxious lol
bold gull
@safe veldt it was over 3 days and very tiring lolll
safe veldt
that must have taken alot of energy to get through all of them
what were your success rate for those 13 interviews, how many did you move on after?
bold gull
Got 2 offers on the spot, 4 other offers from the conference and 10 overall for the summer
And yes I was drained by the end. Thankfully vGHC you don't have to walk miles to get to everything
mystic phoenix
GHC is for women only correct?
bold gull
Nope! Its geared towards woman obviously but definitely not only women
I had a guy friend that went on a scholarship actually
safe veldt
was he able to get interviews and or offers from attending GHC?
bold gull
Not sure tbh, i don't think he went for the career fair though
rocky falcon
Any tips for people who are about to do the robinhood challenge?
gusty citrus
if its code signal its random af
flint barn
I guess Amazon will update everyone next week due to 10th September deadline.
nova maple
I guess Amazon will update everyone next week due to 10th September deadline.
@flint barn
What deadline?
flint barn
They said in the email that decision to move forward will be given by 10th september to those who got OA
worthy spear
Anyone doing Robinhood Security Engineer new grad interviews?
fallen iris
And btw the Sept 10 batch wasn't even the first one
@low verge
Oh dang when was the first batch then?
low verge
i think a week or two before?
fallen iris
Oh I see, I thought the OA’s for the first batch had to be finished by aug 25th and they heard back by sep 10
And some from the aug 25 got extended to aug 31 b/c of their oa3 being delayed by the system
worthy spear
yea mine was delayed
spiral lantern
I applied for amazon new grad on Aug 19th. Still havent got OA.. Any poor souls like me
rose zodiac
I applied for amazon new grad on Aug 19th. Still havent got OA.. Any poor souls like me
@spiral lantern applied on 12th and waiting......
worthy spear
Where did yall hear sept 10th for Amazon?
flint barn
Where did yall hear sept 10th for Amazon?
@worthy spear It was in an email that was sent to people who did OA's
worthy spear
Which email was it i did all 3 and haven’t found it...
winged kelp
should be like your amazon oa is coming
worthy spear
Ah i found it. It was called Amazon Next steps
stuck dagger
I applied for amazon new grad on Aug 19th. Still havent got OA.. Any poor souls like me
@spiral lantern applied on July 31, still "application submitted"
worthy spear
I sent on august 2 and finished all the parts
urban hemlock
@spiral lantern applied on July 31, still "application submitted"
@stuck dagger same, August 3rd
sad
meager garnet
@spiral lantern applied on July 31, still "application submitted"
@stuck dagger Me too, it seems like Amazon need candidates with luck
olive ridge
hey all ,
what should i enter for the below question
Are you legally authorized to work in the United States? *
for new grad
nova maple
hey all ,
what should i enter for the below question
@olive ridge
"Yes" ....it means that you can work on your F-1 visa via opt or get an h1b without any obstacle
olive ridge
thanks
i have entered no for few companies
how should i edit it?
or can i inform the recruiter after going the OA's ?
nova maple
I don't think you can edit it on the form
cold coyote
@olive ridge i would reach out to a recruiter ASAP and explain the error. Im sure you are not the only person who has mixed up that question before
olive ridge
Thank you very much
misty gale
@olive ridge In case you don't get a reply from a recruiter (which is highly likely since they get a lot of messages), just apply with a different email.
olive ridge
will do that
stark otter
Are you legally authorized to work in the United States? *
I have this question too
I have always clicked on yes
and then I came across this
Now i dont know what to do
misty gale
@stark otter some companies explicitly ask you to select no if you are on F-1 visa. In most cases you can just select Yes
fallen iris
Is Pymetrics basically like Cognify?
patent surge
ye
rose parcel
Has anyone interviewed with Circle Internet Technology?
frozen oyster
Just to confirm, VMware doesn't sponsor employees for the new grad role, right?
pale anchor
Just to confirm, VMware doesn't sponsor employees for the new grad role, right?
@frozen oyster they only sponsor Master
wind acorn
Anyone hear back from Google? Did you apply w/ referral or nah
tired bay
Google hasn’t open new grad 👀
latent cipher
does anyone know if Lyft is recruiting new grads at all or if it’s just gonna be returning interns?
old kestrel
@eager glacier just standard leetcode karat
karats are the same across all companies
No
Ppl on the internet lie
Just ask ur recruiter if ur worried
You can also contact karat directly I think they have 24/7 support
simple hazel
Anyone heard back from Amazon after OA3?
cold coyote
Has anyone heard from Cisco in like the past month? I did there OA and have been sitting in "under review" ever since lol
@simple hazel some folks have. First batch of apps hear back by 9/10
balmy nest
@cold coyote same here it has been under review for more than a month now
warm stone
did not receive cisco oa yet
raven dune
@frozen oyster I think VMware sponsorship is role specific. I only saw in one new grad post "we will not sponsor visa". So we can assume they will sponsor for other positions.
pallid pilot
@eager glacier I'm pretty sure every interview is different. I did new grad backend karat and the first half was systems design (multiple short answer questions) I did a redo after and the first half was quick trivia questions on different topics (networking was one of them). Second half was one or multiple leetcodes.
worthy spear
anyone pass peak6 coding challenge without solving all cases? I got all but 4 cases through both problems
specifcially, I missed 4 cases in the first problem and couldn't figure it out for the life of me it was easy i just brain farted lol
languid plaza
Is it just me or are the OAs and interviews this year design heavy?
tidal hazel
theyre slightly harder than usual i feel like
languid plaza
I actually do not complain because it requires less LC but 5/7 OAs I have done this season were all design
Only RH and citadel were LC problems
Optiver, imc, palantir, peak6 were solely design questions
fleet niche
What do you mean by design questions, I remember doing imc and it was p much like a more heavily worded leetcode question
cerulean pivot
yo when tf r there gonan be tech companies in chicago
arctic drift
when banking moves out
languid plaza
Design meaning like along the lines of LRU cache let's say
I know LRU is also on LC but it is not exactly an algorithmic question
fallen iris
Is it just me or are the OAs and interviews this year design heavy?
@languid plaza
Do you mean like LLD/OOP questions?
ivory star
Anyone who heard back from Amazon after OA3?
wind acorn
no not yet... submitted 8/31 @ivory star
anyone here had luck reapplying to stripe to get OA lol
tidal hazel
@ivory star expect to hear back by thursday!
iron gate
man
i literally got to final round with appian last year and now i didn’t even get pass the resume screen
i don’t understand this
eager root
has anyone given peak6 interview?
flint halo
entry level is more fucked
wind acorn
a new week a new wave of Ls
safe veldt
Im waiting for the Ls from the apps I sent the last week
worthy spear
a new week of OAs
safe veldt
I havent been getting OAs
At least I already accepted my Lockheed offer, trying to see if I can renege
misty glade
What is 'Ls'?
languid plaza
@languid plaza
Do you mean like LLD/OOP questions?
@fallen iris Yup
olive ridge
Has anyone given peak6 online assessment today??
frozen oyster
Imagine getting a job in 2000 or 2008
@safe veldt I get 2008 but what happened in 2000?
old kestrel
2000 = 2020
worthy spear
Here we go. Another week of staring at inboxes and refreshing github new grad postings... is there meaning in all of this? 🤔
@eager glacier technically u got tomorrow to breath (labor day) lol
languid plaza
I am totally shocked that google hasn't yet opened the position
Are they really not going to hire any new grads this year?
tired bay
They have position for APM up but no apply button yet so would be shocked if SWE doesn’t open but APM does
fallen iris
Are they really not going to hire any new grads this year?
@languid plaza
probably like late september, maybe waiting on intern returns and seeing how much they wanna take in/save costs on?
keen onyx
I think companies are just using Covid as an excuse to slow down hiring. But I can't figure out how companies like Google are impacted due to covid and why do they want less people this year
I understand Uber, Lyft and Airbnb but others 😕
fallen iris
is google foobar still a thing lmao
visual lagoon
probably like late september, maybe waiting on intern returns and seeing how much they wanna take in/save costs on?
@fallen iris Did it happen last year as well? If not, then probably that's not the case for this year.
fervent berry
Well google makes money off ads and if a lot of businesses suffer than they will stop paying for ads hence google loses money
Same with fb
visual lagoon
is google foobar still a thing lmao
@fallen iris I got foobar a month ago and just sitting at level 2 in case I fail new grad role lol
fallen iris
@fallen iris Did it happen last year as well? If not, then probably that's not the case for this year.
@visual lagoon nah they opened mad early last year, I applied late like October/November ish and got waitlisted then never heard from again
oo interesting
analog goblet
I did foobar like 4 months ago and was never contacted so not really sure
worthy spear
Doss anyone know how to actually get an interview at apple? I have been applying since my freshman year and they just don’t follow up. Not even a rejection
safe veldt
pray
flint halo
pray and referral
storm hamlet
Another thing for why Google is probably slowing down hiring is probably because of the antitrust case the DOJ is building up
sterile summit
I think companies are just using Covid as an excuse to slow down hiring. But I can't figure out how companies like Google are impacted due to covid and why do they want less people this year
@keen onyx Well, Google legitimately hasn't figured out its headcount for next year (date for heacount is the 14th) - hence slow conversions too. It's mostly that they made a commitment in the earnings at the beginning of this year to have flat hiring for that sweet sweet stock bump, but the external app will untimately open when they have their ducks in a row, just less spots.
daring bough
iirc joey has one but I don't think he's done it yet
flint halo
I think the latest batch starts recruiter screens this week
rigid elbow
Speaking of msft has anyone had the final interview by any chance
I'll post my review after mine but i have no clue what to expect
daring bough
@rigid elbow gooood luck!
rigid elbow
@sinful meadow gl on yours too, hope msft isn't too picky this year but welp f the covid
tidal hazel
still waiting for a response from msft :/
fallen iris
I did foobar like 4 months ago and was never contacted so not really sure
@analog goblet all levels finished?
last linden
i thought google stopped hiring with foobar
real prism
Doss anyone know how to actually get an interview at apple? I have been applying since my freshman year and they just don’t follow up. Not even a rejection
@worthy spear i got an interview through my school since they came for campus recruiting, thought i had a really good interview and still got ghosted...
main chasm
Have been applying to apple for 3 years now. Not even once I heard anything back. Not even an OA. I'm from southeast asia tho.
worthy spear
@real prism that sucks. I dont know why they dont send at least a follow up. I feel it’s disrespectful.
@main chasm i dont really think that’s the issue. I guess they hire through referrals more
main chasm
analog goblet
I just went through lvl 3 which is where the ask for your contact info. I was never contacted after that
lilac geode
I just applied to Apple online sophomore year and a recruiter reached out around December. Interviewed with three diff teams and they all rejected but I reached out to the recruiter my junior year and they gave me another interview for this year.
frozen oyster
And then we have FB who doesn't even maintain a proper careers page. Can't even see where my application is at.
sharp quail
@keen onyx Well, Google legitimately hasn't figured out its headcount for next year (date is the 14th) - hence slow conversions too. It's mostly that they made a commitment in the earnings at the beginning of this year to have flat hiring for that sweet sweet stock bump, but the external app will untimately open when they have their ducks in a row, just less spots.
@sterile summit how do you know it's on the 14th?
sterile summit
waiting to do team match, can't do team match if PA's don't have headcount
P.S. I meant the date PA's get headcount, I have no idea when apps open
umbral condor
Does anyone have an idea about McKinsey's SWE Hackerrank?
hollow sand
Anyone know what kind of hackerranks IBM often provides for new grads
ive read two easy's, one medium, all string manipulation is pretty common..
empty crane
Has anyone done akuna hacker rank recently
worthy spear
@empty crane yup. Like 6 multiple choice. 1 lc easy 3 medium
empty crane
What’s it like @worthy spear
worthy spear
6 multiple choice. 1 lc easy 3 medium all c++
empty crane
Wow that’s a lot, what’s the multi choice part about
I got the OA for junior python developer though, do I still have to take it in C++
@worthy spear
tidal hazel
@empty crane From what I’ve heard python one was lc style questions easy/med, not bad
empty crane
Ooh cool, thanks
worthy spear
i did the C++ one
stark crypt
Doss anyone know how to actually get an interview at apple? I have been applying since my freshman year and they just don’t follow up. Not even a rejection
@worthy spear i received a callback for an interview for summer 20 in march but had already accepted another offer at that time :/
keen onyx
Didn't receive rejections on a Monday. Then realized it was Labor day 
mint skiff
Anyone here not get autorejected at DE Shaw? How lol
vagrant raft
D.E shaw is the most elitist company I've ever seen, you need to go to a target school and have at least a 3.7+, preferably a 3.9+ to be looked at
worthy spear
whats DE shaws comp?
plain spade
DE shaw SWE make more than being the CEO of amazon
latent cipher
it took me all of five days before receiving a resume rejection so technically not an auto reject
gotta appreciate the small wins
safe veldt
Jeff Bezos used to work for DE Shaw
mighty tusk
I am not getting any response from Amazon, can someone help me here?
safe veldt
@plain spade If you only count Bezos base salary and not his bonus and stocks, that's true
plain spade
Bezos doesn't get a bonus or stock options/RSUs
just base salary from amazon; of course when he does a good job his wealth naturally rises from his amazon equity + he has more money than he knows what do with
but he really is just paid 80k a year lol
plain spade
yep
stark otter
He doesn’t have an active role in amazon I assume?
plain spade
no he does
stark otter
Huh weird then
plain spade
why does he need a real salary?
wind acorn
anyone else doing the neeva frontend challenge? how long did it take you?
plain spade
he owns 11% of the company
stark otter
Lol okay makes sense
I never heard back when did you apply @wind acorn
I only applied last week tho
stark otter
Oh so a month
Cool thanks
There was a guy here who was on the phone round
I would search and ping them maybe
safe veldt
Is that not true, you saying he doesn't get other compensations?
Zuckerberg base salary is $1 but he has other TC
plain spade
tbh I have no idea what that is listing as "other compensation"
It's not on other Bezos TC breakdowns
nvm I found it, "That included $1.6 million in security services for Bezos, in addition to the security arrangements provided at the company’s facilities and for business travel."
It's 80k + private security payed for by amazon
wouldn't really count that as part of his comp normally
runic kraken
Anyone else get the Neeva coding challenge? It seems like a lot of work for no reason
worthy spear
I feel like you guys misinterpret these elitist company rejections, they're not super good or whatever, what they are are full white rich people and they like to feel superior to other people imo, tech companies are the true meritocracy so I highly recommend yall to get into tech whether ur white/rich or not
junior bolt
Anyone got any tips on finding smaller companies to apply to? I'm finding it hard to find them if they're not in my area (and I do not want to stay where I am)
worthy spear
@worthy spear tech companies are not a true meritocracy lol
@sinful meadow I disagree, they judge you based on your technical ability, how well you can code; the harder you work, the more you'll get paid and the more you can get promoted
Its hard to completely avoid bureaucracy in a large company / team but its much better in tech than it is in finance. Finance is about staying in your lane, tech is about best answer wins
rigid elbow
Tech is definitely one of the most meritocratic fields out there
Well nothing ever can be truly meritocratic obv
safe veldt
In tech its still about who likes you
worthy spear
You could be gifted programmer but if no one likes you doesn't cut it
safe veldt
Even if you are the best but you go against your lead and manager, it wont be good for you
rigid elbow
I feel like we can be all less pessimistic about it, at least we can agree tech definitely values your ability than other fields
safe veldt
Yup
rigid elbow
I dont really think so man, dont be so sure about it
safe veldt
Just dont ignore the truth, that social factors is key on what happens to you
rigid elbow
at least at the lower swe level skillsets do value
vagrant raft
Quant firms are much more meritocratic than tech lol
Since your impact can be easily measured
At tech it can be very poltical
rigid elbow
quant is like the most meritocratic field out there imo
worthy spear
Ultimately there will be a place which your skill gets picked through, unlike other more subjective fields.
like art, music...etc
vagrant raft
At tech you can get promoted by feigning impact
worthy spear
Having experience in fintech/trading, i can easily say that its so much better in tech, communication is necessary in all jobs and all fields but tech gives the most leeway to grow and make guap regardless of your background
vagrant raft
Especially at large companies its extremely political who gets the impactful project
rigid elbow
@rigid elbow idk why ur trying to deny it. it rlly is the truth. yes u still need to do good work sure but without networking and having good relations with the ppl u report to u wont grow
@sinful meadow Im not outright denying the fact that relationship dont matter bro, just that in tech skillsets tend to take more in value than other factors
vagrant raft
There is much less room for posturing in quant
worthy spear
In fintech/trading you don't get to say anything about new projects or what you want, you do what you're told
If you have the tech skills alone you just will take on the heavy lifting and not get the credit that's due. And thus, not really promote while others get lead roles
rigid elbow
Aite man i respect your pov, just that my experience is little different
vagrant raft
Swe in tech isn't that different from swe in quant
But quant in quant is very different
safe veldt
Just to be clear, everyone here has worked, right?
vagrant raft
And is much more meriticratic
worthy spear
yup
vagrant raft
Since you get paid based on the success of your strategies
rigid elbow
I cant imagine how difficult itd be surviving in quant
worthy spear
^^ ur basically a slave in the corner having to kiss up to people that don't give a shet about ur work
i'm going to tech, that's all i know
vagrant raft
@worthy spear were you a swe?
And were you in a firm that Is known for poor dev culture?
Ik someone who interned at both fb and imc as an swe intern and liked imc much more due to cultural reasons
worthy spear
You get put on pip and then out :/
vagrant raft
Technical ability is the most important for the initial 2 promotions
Ex. L3 to L5 at FB
After that its ability to influence others and having good relationships
but most people never get those promotions
And it's a lot of luck and right place right time imo
u still need good relationships earlier tho
@sinful meadow yea definitely but I think the majority of people are decent enough at this
To make those first 2 promotions
Yea true
worthy spear
i mean to be a good engineer you need technical ability and communication. you cant just be a god coder who cant work with anyone and get promoted
rigid elbow
oh np i think we ended up arguing with a same perspective lol
bold gull
@mint skiff i haven't gotten rejected from DEShaw and had a recruiter reach out about a non SWE role (I applied to 4 different roles) but kinda been ghosted now
mint skiff
Do u go to target
bold gull
No i go to a no name school but do have a high gpa
languid plaza
gpa is overrated
I have a close to perfect GPA and haven't seen it help me in any way
worthy spear
It does for DEShaw
stark otter
imagine making a ground breaking database system and naming it cockroach
worthy spear
Tbh when you get lots of applications they need to filter somehow. GPA isn’t a good metric but it is a metric
languid plaza
DEShaw was asking even for SAT so that's an outlier
latent cipher
idk i think i would have gotten way more rejections last year if my gpa were lower
bc i had no internship experience and unimpressive projects
vagrant raft
Same i think gpa helps
Its a factor but isn't necessary if you have an otherwise good resume
worthy spear
all else fails at least it will help for grad school
wind acorn
@runic kraken (Neeva challenge) yeah it seems like a solid >3 hours worth of work lol
cerulean pivot
yea i got rejected from neeva because i only put an hour into it lol
like two maybe
but yeah i don’t like take homes
it’s good if ur not confident in ur leetcoding ability i guess
u can just mindlessly grind for that project
but it isn’t scalable
they’re just another company
manic ice
Has anyone heard back from robinhood after doing karat?
cerulean pivot
when did u take it?
astral garnet
robinhood process
"applied (03-08-2020)
got codesignal (05-08-2020)
completed codesignal (05-08-2020)
recruiter reach out setting up karat (07-08-2020)
karat 1 (08-08-2020)
karat 2 (09-08-2020)
recruiter reach out setting up recruiter call (11-08-2020)
recruiter call (13-08-2020)
recruiter reach out setting up superday (13-08-2020)
superday EZ (26-08-2020)"
cerulean pivot
was it actually ez
was it leetcode
this reminds me that my recruiter told me should would give me outline of what they ask ocne i scheduled and i never got it after scheduling
astral garnet
the superday, yeah
it was very algo focused, which worked well for me there wasn't like a behavioural or culture fit part
copper fractal
old kestrel
@astral garnet ur supposed to hear back one week after superday did u hear back yet
i have mine in 2 weeks they didnt have a lot of openings
grave gull
how are you guys getting superday for robinhood they just told me they're scheduling a final round
fervent berry
what's the difference between superday and a final round?
tired bay
Usually the means same thing tbh
torn ivy
Is it late if I am not interviewing yet?
wind acorn
nope @torn ivy a bunch of companies haven't even posted their new grad roles yet
torn ivy
Thanks dragon 🙂
tidal hazel
yeah, im graduating december, n im international, so the stress is on
hollow sand
Linked in apps already having 1000 applicants...wtf
sullen holly
Did anyone here get an Interview call from Goldman Sachs?
flint halo
lowkey I don’t trust Expedia’s product in COVID times
keen bison
Anyone know if you don't get the HR round right at the end of Bloomberg on site it means you're rejected?
warm stone
Expedia laid off massively half year ago
light sluice
PSA: If you're given the Stripe Hackerrank, do it in Python! I did it in Java and got 13/14 but got rejected
languid plaza
What's the point of python then?
keen onyx
PSA: If you're given the Stripe Hackerrank, do it in Python! I did it in Java and got 13/14 but got rejected
@light sluice I don't think language was the deciding factor for rejection. They wouldn't include Java if they didn't want it
languid plaza
Java is faster
fast vapor
Probably mentioned before but Robinhood New Grad OA was 2 Easy, 1 Med, 1 Hard in 70 min. They use CodeSignal which takes into account "Speed", "Implementation", and "Problem Solving". I have no idea what these mean but they have hidden test cases like most OAs.
simple hazel
yep, i also got my hard as problem 3 so ended up wasting time tryna solve it and couldnt do 4th fully. man its just so much RNG
rigid elbow
yall, just took the codesignal for robinhood. Does it automatically submit the test result to robinhood after test is over? the score report says its pending
Gotcha, thanks!
old kestrel
^
maybe ill start thinking about that when i have offers in hand
its still so early
how long does Codility take to show results?
i did drw oa friday and the "view ur results" link doesn't have actual results yet
hoary venture
anyone know how amazon oa2 was? I keep hearing that its either pretty easy or super hard?
real prism
it was 2 lc meds for me, passed all test cases for the first q, but got 10/13 for the second
worthy spear
2 meds, passed all
tired bay
I got easy and hard
light sluice
@light sluice I don't think language was the deciding factor for rejection. They wouldn't include Java if they didn't want it
@keen onyx well you can try and prove me wrong 🙂
visual lagoon
PSA: If you're given the Stripe Hackerrank, do it in Python! I did it in Java and got 13/14 but got rejected
@light sluice So you know that everyone who did Java got rejected?
keen onyx
@light sluice So you know that everyone who did Java got rejected?
@visual lagoon According to the reply he/she is quite confident about that 😂
visual lagoon
13/14 must pass any OAs <- incorrect
coral coral
I don't know of anyone who's moved onto the phone interview atm for new grad after Stripe HR
torn ivy
Is it too late to apply to amazon
coral coral
What if it was?
umbral condor
Guys, any idea about Mckinsey's OA?
rose zodiac
how long does Codility take to show results?
@old kestrel I don't think they show you the result. It's directly forwarded to the company.
stable plume
Hey how do you all keep calm and sleep properly before an interview? I have my conversion interviews with Google tomorrow and I'm so nervous 😭
vernal crystal
@stable plume Do something that you enjoy, that'll take your mind off the interview. I usually play video games
@torn ivy No it's not. You can still apply
stable plume
Man I would go on a bike ride but my area has horrible air quality due to some wildfires so I have to stay inside... Maybe some animal crossing! Thanks for the suggestion :)
vernal crystal
@stable plume Cali? I'm in LA and its boiling. So done with this, I need winter to come faster
stable plume
Tri Cities in Washington (east side of the state). It looks downright apocalyptic. I'm told it's Cali's fault tho!
worthy spear
good luck!
stable plume
Thank you for well wishes! I am excited to be done with them and not dreading them anymore lmao
turbid furnace
Guys, any idea about Mckinsey's OA?
@umbral condor so soooon
flint halo
oof I'm annoyed @ mathworks reject
made it to hiring manager before taking another offer last year and I get resume rejected this year? top kek
stable plume
It's brutal out there this year
Lots of people who normally get super far in process rejected at resume screening
severe oasis
I had more interviews last year looking for an internship with no experience than I do now for new grad with 2 internships :/
stable plume
My plan if my conversion doesn't work out is just chill at a local company for a year and try again next year lol
Companies just don't have the same new grad recruiting they did before because of the pandemic :(
severe oasis
^ same really hoping my conversion goes through. Will be a huge weight of my shoulders
warm stone
Cockroach Labs has only less than 200 people..
worthy spear
I'm glad already got conversion offer. Can try other places at ease and focus my classes
languid plaza
is the most active part of recruitement already behind or is it yet to come?
spring condor
anyone hear back from Capital One about TDP?
light sluice
13/14 must pass any OAs <- incorrect
@visual lagoon well ok. just givin my 2c
feral martenBOT
!problem can only be used in #leetcode-bot
vapid river
worthy spear
My uni’s career fair is very diminished this year
winged patio
swe when .-.
worthy spear
when they finish seeing how many interns they get back probably
queen burrow
Just got the form after CodeVue for JPMorgan. It asks if I want to participate in Code For Good. Is this something that I should definitely say yes to if I want to proceed? Not a big fan of hackathons tbh
patent surge
I'd definitely say yes
Worst case scenario: Free hackathon food
Best case scenario: JPMorgan job
queen burrow
Think it's virtual this year T_T
nova maple
Just got the form after CodeVue for JPMorgan. It asks if I want to participate in Code For Good. Is this something that I should definitely say yes to if I want to proceed? Not a big fan of hackathons tbh
@queen burrow
Doesn't matter....I filled this form a month back....still haven't got any reply 😂
naive current
Did Belvedere recently become popular I had not heard of them before this year
fallen iris
Did Belvedere recently become popular I had not heard of them before this year
@naive current
Don’t think it’s become popular but everyone’s just applying everywhere at this point to anyone hiring, so every company just seems popular. Like Appian, never heard of them before this year and they have a high bar of like 3.7+ gpa like wtf
naive current
Lmao fair enough
worthy spear
Appian has been a prime east coast company tho
fallen iris
Oo huh interesting
Was anyone able to apply to Honeywell? When I click “submit,” it takes me to a blank white screen and doesn’t actually submit. I tried a few times not sure if anyone else experienced that
tidal hazel
yeah, its kinda glitchy, but after a couple tries, it worked for me @fallen iris
fallen iris
Damn weird kk ty I’ll try again
candid garnet
Yeah try a couple of times with different browsers. @fallen iris
warped grotto
those who have experience applying to both, did you find intern or new grad SWE positions more competitive?
spiral lantern
Anyone took the mastercard pymetrics test?
torn wadi
Yeah. It's the same games as other companies asked for, with maybe 4 or so added games.
queen burrow
I found the game where you had to remember the letters so hard lol
worthy spear
@eager glacier it was codiltiy right? I did it, it was a long 2d array problem. The time they gave is enough imo
flint halo
@warped grotto harder to get new grad interviews even with experience, questions are a little harder imo (more LC medium instead of easy, system design is fair game)
I’ve still never encountered LC hard besides codesignal/Citadel OA
but I don’t go for trading or quant so
warped grotto
rip me, can barely even get interviews for internships rn lol
i knew interviews were harder, was hoping it would be easier to get one though
flint halo
if you’re interning (graduating later than spring 2021?) it’s way easier to get a return offer than to interview as an external new grad
warped grotto
yeah makes sense, I'm a 2022 grad so hoping for a decent internship next summer so i can get a return offer
spice belfry
i applied for three mastercard roles and they sent me three pymetrics... can't they just reuse the results from one
blissful canyon
same here
queen burrow
Doesn't pymetrics let you reuse your old results? I am using the ones I diid last year
blissful canyon
i am also unable to reshare the previous results
as in the link directly leads me to the test with no option to share previous results
spice belfry
hell it might even be for the same position
chrome willow
has anyone gotten anything after taking the pymetrics for mastercard?
candid garnet
I just completed the pymetric for second role. It said I only have to give 4/12 tests.
It looks like questions vary as per role.
This time it was more on pattern recognition
Quant and numerical ability
dull inlet
Same here
had 3 more games
guess it takes the prev results automatically if its an existing account
devout bobcat
same here
chrome willow
last week
orchid ibex
Do you new grads find it easier to get calls back when applying for full-time rather than internships?
sly saffron
Anyone knows where I can find Asana's new grad roles? I don't see anything on their website
last linden
new grad is a blood bath
old kestrel
new grad is harder so far
flint halo
new grad is hard af
sharp flame
New grad has been easier than internship for me. Last year for internships I sent 190 applications and got 4 interviews out of it. This year I’ve sent 12 apps and gotten 4 interviews so far.
spice belfry
holy shit 190
flint halo
lol I had the opposite experience (although mine was more like 4 final round, 20 apps for internships vs 4 final round, 60 apps for new grad)
vernal crystal
What’s pymetrics?
tired bay
Click keys on keyboard as fast as possible 🤣
old kestrel
balloons game
patent surge
I genuinely enjoyed the pymetrics stuff
pure quiver
New grad has been easier than internship for me. Last year for internships I sent 190 applications and got 4 interviews out of it. This year I’ve sent 12 apps and gotten 4 interviews so far.
@sharp flame do you have an internship on your resume when you apply to these new grad positions? just curious
sharp flame
@pure quiver yeah I had an internship over the summer
pure quiver
ya i figured, thats all it really takes for new grad i feel
old kestrel
I’ve had 5 and I’ve still gotten quite a few rejects from the “harder to get into” places
So it’s still kinda bad odds
daring bough
u just suck at balloons brett
patent surge
Where'd you get the offer from Corgo?
patent surge
And, if you wouldn't mind, how many internships did ya get?
I just have a gmail folder, lmao.
runic kraken
A spreadsheet seems like so much work
daring bough
ur just built different
old kestrel
💪
daring bough
💪
void bobcat
I just bookmark all the completed apps I do lol
warm stone
countless rejection in my spreadsheet
patent surge
I've got like 11 rejections so far
from like 50 applications?
Even with nutting all over my recent OAs, no phone interviews 😭
worthy spear
2 more days till Amazon result
gloomy plaza
Anyone hear back from Amazon today?
static rune
I use https://huntr.co to keep track of applications. Trello/Asana boards work as well
grave gull
spreadsheet is pog
old kestrel
excel 😤
grave gull
i get to see all the rejections ive gotten
wake up everyday to add another L to my list 🥳
in all seriousness though, it's really nice to have a centralized place to see all of your apps and potential contacts at said companies
chrome sundial
google sheet 👌 😩
fervent berry
Notion? Anyone?