2021_grads

[drowsy ore]

I've heard that it's useful enough for practice. Although it could work if you just got it 1 month before the actual interview to do specific problems

[rose zodiac]

would you guys say its worth it to get leetcode premium to do all the problems for microsoft/amazon? is it accurate with the company's most used questions?
@fallow mist yes it is!

[drowsy ore]

Also keep track of latest problems that people post on discuss section

they ask the same questions a lot of times

[tidal hazel]

@fallow mist it'll be worth just for recruiting season, you'll get access to more questions and theres tons of questions per company esp big ones

[fallow mist]

yeah @drowsy ore i'm trying to keep up with all the amazon OAs that people are posting haha

@tidal hazel sounds good, I'm really hoping to get my microsoft phone interview set up soon but in the mean time i think it'd be helpful to use leetcode premium then

[tidal hazel]

yeah, im doing the same haha^

[fleet niche]

In people's experience do LC hards get pulled out for new grads?

They were so rare for internships I never did them

[tidal hazel]

yeah, for sure, not super common but def try ur hands with them

what happened to the 2020 grads channel lmao

[mental cove]

@fallen iris Thanks !

[daring bough]

@tidal hazel we had too many channels

sorry 2020 grads 😦

[tidal hazel]

rip 2020 grads

[daring bough]

2020 grads are welcome here though

[mental cove]

So guys is there any link that has all the answers for the debugging - OA1 round. Seems like the leetcode 's link was brought down. It doesn't exist anymore ?

[daring bough]

we will probably rename this channel to be new_grads

year agnostic

[tidal hazel]

if im graduating in december, what does that make me 🤔

[plain spade]

first 2020 grads graduate into a recession, now they don't have a channel

[daring bough]

it b like that

[cerulean pivot]

ur the middle child that everyone forgot about

[daring bough]

:/

[tidal hazel]

:/

[wind acorn]

how was the amazon OA2? have to give it this weekend

[fallen iris]

@wind acorn If you know the problems (some got removed oddly) from the infamous amazon leetcode list by Sithis you’re chilling

[pale anchor]

An Amazon Recruiter told me that she can’t find my profile with my email address. Anyone know what’s going on? 🥺

Did you apply in previous years and get a response?
@eager glacier I got rejected from resume round

[urban hemlock]

If you are given amazon OA, how long do you have to take it?

[tired bay]

Think it was like 2-3 week period finish each within 5 days is what they want

[urban hemlock]

now i just have to get it..

[tired bay]

Yeah would expect more to go out early this week

[sleek coyote]

Anyone have experience with Akuna C# Coding Challenge? I assume it's as hard as the other challenges

[misty gale]

does adding a cover letter to an online application help? I always just apply with my resume and details. Do they even read cover letters?

[sleek coyote]

Doubt they read them, they have 10 - 15 seconds per applicant

[misty gale]

cool, didn't want to write one lol

[tidal hazel]

i havent written one at all for any company

[devout bobcat]

i didn't add one last year and got little or no oas but added this year and got a lot more

so it does help like a little

[tidal hazel]

I’m sure it doesn’t hurt. But like, I’m applying to so many, it almost seems inefficient to do so, but I should def consider doing it as much as I Can oof

[mystic phoenix]

@sleek coyote I go tone too. Which position did you apply to?

[sleek coyote]

@mystic phoenix The general one, I think they just thought C# was the fit for me but I don't have any C# experience in my resume...

[languid plaza]

Is it me or are companies kinda slow on hiring for new grad?

There are like 10x less new grad posting than intern ones

[mystic phoenix]

its odd cause the email says you can also choose Java or Python @sleek coyote

@languid plaza yes, much slower

[grave gull]

it's the corona

[sleek coyote]

@mystic phoenix I have C#, C++, or Java as options

[mystic phoenix]

@sleek coyote you're right, my bad

you can do Java right?

Anyone have tips for Akuna?

[languid plaza]

@mystic phoenix For OA?

[sleek coyote]

Yea

People say it's stupid difficult

[languid plaza]

Mine had a lot of edge cases

[sleek coyote]

Even compared to Citadel

[languid plaza]

And graphs

It's just plain stupid

I couldn't find the reason one of the test cases was failing so was like fuck it and submitted

[sleek coyote]

Did you hear back>

?

[languid plaza]

Yeah rejected

[mystic phoenix]

damn you need a perfect score??

[sleek coyote]

It;s Akuna

[languid plaza]

I guess

[sleek coyote]

I think it's expected

[languid plaza]

I scored perfectly on Citadel and still haven't head back

so idk

[mystic phoenix]

idk much about them besides they're sought after

[sleek coyote]

I just applied because it's a hedge fund

[mystic phoenix]

how much do they offer anyway?

[sleek coyote]

250? Maybe?

[mystic phoenix]

wtf

[languid plaza]

300 actually

[mystic phoenix]

???

[sleek coyote]

Yea, around that

[languid plaza]

low k I just apply cuz of the clout

[sleek coyote]

Same

[languid plaza]

I hate finances

[sleek coyote]

I'm just greedy

[languid plaza]

All you do is suck others money

[mystic phoenix]

it doesn't seem as interesting as tech but i'd try it out

[sleek coyote]

I'd rather just go to my current offer and re apply in 4 years

[languid plaza]

The fields is so niche your skills are going to be useless if you try to make career switch

[sleek coyote]

Really dont want to burn out

[languid plaza]

I wanna land at unicorn

Even with less comp than faang as long as I feel like I am making an impact

[mystic phoenix]

@sleek coyote whats your current job?

is the WLB bad in finance?

[languid plaza]

depends

I heard jane street is good

citadel is horrible

[sleek coyote]

@mystic phoenix Got return offer from Msft, just want to try to interview with other companies

Also heard Citadel is horrible, 60 -70 hrs/week

[languid plaza]

Finance is literally selling your soul to devil lol

Not hatin on those who work there tho cuz they are hella smart

[sleek coyote]

Is my soul worth 300k/year?

[last linden]

for akuna bring industrial strength lubicant

[mystic phoenix]

@sleek coyote woah congrats dude

Do you not like MSFT?

@languid plaza is it really that much worse than FB or amazon?

My ultimate goal would be working to help the environment or something, but those jobs pay like shit

[sleek coyote]

@mystic phoenix Its alright. Just doing this for the thrill of it and some interview practice

Microsoft is doing some environmental stuff with SWEs

Could look into that

[mystic phoenix]

damn that sounds cool, I just need them to contact me I guess @sleek coyote

I applied when it opened

[sleek coyote]

@mystic phoenix Did you apply in previous years?

[mystic phoenix]

yes I applied for internships in 2019 but no cigar @sleek coyote

[tawdry herald]

Any tips for the VMware OA? Not sure what to expect for the multiple choice questions

[coral coral]

300 actually
Some return interns are getting more year 1

Wlb at Citadel is pretty bad though

[astral garnet]

you get a lot more at citadel if ur returning too

i think its 100k cash, 150k signing, 150k bonus for returning if you were good

[cursive loom]

Wtf

That's loaded

[grave gull]

yeah sounds about right for citadel

400k 1st year

[coral coral]

150k base 150k signing 100k bonus is roughly the numbers

Its slightly different this year

[grave gull]

how bad is wlb though?

like 70-80?

[sleek coyote]

Pretty much from what I've heard from various sources

[cursive loom]

Is 80 like you spend almost all your time at work?

[coral coral]

Horrible, from my exp. I regularly had 60 hour weeks when I was there

Wouldn't say 70-80 though

[grave gull]

is that over weekends too? or just M-F

[coral coral]

M-F, but I would work a few hours over the weekend too some weeks

[astral garnet]

er yeah i fucked it up, its 150 cash not 150 bonus

[grave gull]

damn

[warm stone]

I heard some fresh grad got laid off 3 months after join Citadel

[astral garnet]

theres also 150/50/75 salary/bonus/signing for a shittier return intern

[grave gull]

400k for 60 hours vs 180k for 30 sth hours at google

[coral coral]

The play is objectively to just go to citadel for 1 year

Then leave and collect the signing bonus and the non compete pay

[astral garnet]

iunno if ur looking for job with 1 YOE

[coral coral]

They pay 1 year of salary after you leave

[astral garnet]

ur not new grad, but youre not experienced

[severe oasis]

They pay 1 year of salary after you leave
wtf really?

[coral coral]

Yup

You just can't go to another trading firm

or participate in 'competitive behavior'

[vagrant raft]

i think its 100k cash, 150k signing, 150k bonus for returning if you were good
@astral garnet my friend who interned this year got 150k base, 50k bonus, 75k signing

[coral coral]

Oof thats the standard offer

[vagrant raft]

This is supposedly the standard offer

Citadel offers have been declining for the last 2 years

[coral coral]

Eh, they're just as good as they were before

[vagrant raft]

The will still negotiate up to 400k if you have competing offers

[coral coral]

You can get 400k right off the bat

[vagrant raft]

but at that point why choose citadel if you have those competing offers

[rigid elbow]

what company is this for?

[sleek coyote]

Out of curiosity, how many interns does Citadel take?

[vagrant raft]

About 70-100 dev interns

[sleek coyote]

Those odds, fuck

[worthy spear]

People say it's stupid difficult
@sleek coyote yea it’s 3 LC hard and 1 LC easy along with MC

[coral coral]

Tbh for these type of companies I don't think you should think of it as odds. You won't really luck your way into an internship

[sleek coyote]

@worthy spear Mine says coding only

[worthy spear]

Are undoing python of c++?

For C++ there was a lot of MC

[sleek coyote]

@sleek coyote yea it’s 3 LC hard and 1 LC easy along with MC
I'll just dip after reading the questions at this point

[vagrant raft]

Tbh for these type of companies I don't think you should think of it as odds. You won't really luck your way into an internship
@coral coral they are a lot of people who are good

[worthy spear]

@sleek coyote I didn’t get all of them and I still passed to phone screen. Still haven’t schedule that tho

[sleek coyote]

@worthy spear I forgot all my LC over the summer, guess I have 2 weeks to study

[coral coral]

Yes, still possible this year

Yes

Recurring for that offer would be ~230-250k

[sleek coyote]

I assume there is an annual bonus though, right?

[coral coral]

Yes

[languid plaza]

@mystic phoenix For me amzn was nearly not as bad as people say it is

management kinda sucks because it's growing super fast and even many managers are new

but overall it was ok

[native ruin]

Any other math/stats majors here?

[tired bay]

Math and stats minors

[rose zodiac]

About 70-100 dev interns
@vagrant raft

The intern class for this year was significantly larger than last year's — 2019's had 167 across Citadel and Citadel Securities — and the 235 chosen were out of 40,000 applicants. The team at Citadel tasked with pulling off the bubbles went from idea to interns arriving on site in seven weeks, something the college students who had been sent home from school earlier in the spring appreciated.

Source :- https://www.businessinsider.com/citadel-remote-summer-internship-wisconsin-resort-palm-beach-2020-8

[vagrant raft]

Interesting, looks like they expanded a lot

[coral coral]

Interns were split roughly 2-1-1 between swe,qr,trader so 100 dev interns is about right

[eternal heart]

where is the best place to apply for Google new grad jobs, from their website, or through handshake or linkedin?

[keen onyx]

I would say their website

[visual lagoon]

is google new grad even open? I only see PhD ones

[copper fractal]

No its not open yet

[warm stone]

maybe never open this year

[queen trench]

so many places ask system design questions (especially as you gain YOE), but if you work at a HFT firm or something, then would you really get exposed to distributed systems/scaling problems? how would you transfer your experience without being downlevelled? maybe not the place to ask but i'm wondering if anyone else thinks about this sort of stuff

[fallen iris]

is google new grad even open? I only see PhD ones
@visual lagoon
Their CTR and APM roles are opening soon

But not swe new grad, which is supposedly in September, but hey who knows for sure

[worthy spear]

Hi all, nice to meet you all!
Has anyone here interned with Google this year (Spring/Summer 2020)? And has anyone heard back from them regarding conversion? TIA.

[high thunder]

@sleek coyote I just turned down my MSFT return offer 🤩

Good luck!!

[stoic yoke]

@worthy spear I'm doing my conversion interviews soon. I heard from my recruiter early to mid August. But I heard of people getting their conversion interviews done way before me. So i don't know why they space em out like that and how they determine the order

[indigo sparrow]

I can't see any opening on JP Morgan or Bloomberg website for new grad . Where did you guys apply for it?

[tidal hazel]

they should be on there, that's where i found them @indigo sparrow

@high thunder what was ur reason for turning it down?? jw*

[tired bay]

Bloomberg was from a link in here cause it hasn’t been up on site for a bit

[tidal hazel]

https://careers.bloomberg.com/job/detail/84014

[indigo sparrow]

Thnak Youuu!!

[worthy spear]

maybe never open this year
@warm stone I heard internally they’re not opening new grad swe this year

Hi all, nice to meet you all!
Has anyone here interned with Google this year (Spring/Summer 2020)? And has anyone heard back from them regarding conversion? TIA.
@worthy spear I did my conversion interviews last week; recruiter said everything regarding conversion in MTV is looking normal...

[indigo sparrow]

Is the Mastercard position still open?
When I click on the link it says no job found

[spice belfry]

^guess not then, idk

have you guys found cover letters to matter at all? do yall submit them?

[cursive loom]

i dont personally

[sleek coyote]

@high thunder May I know why you turned it down?

[peak dirge]

Is it alright if I ask what kind of topics are asked in the RobinHood CodeSignal?

[daring bough]

@peak dirge as long as people don’t discuss exact questions sure but be warned, codesignal is really random

[peak dirge]

Are the questions more on the side of LC easy or LC mediums?

[sleek coyote]

I got 1 easy, 2 meds, 1 hard

[peak dirge]

Any DP problems on the CodeSignal?

[arctic drift]

I didn’t get any

[daring bough]

me neither

[arctic drift]

The problems follow a regular pattern

1/2: LC easy 3: annoying to write out but logic easy (still LC medium ish) 4: LC medium

Medium-Hard***

But yeah my 3 was ass to write out

[daring bough]

ok true

3 is always ass to write out

not super difficult but long

[daring bough]

lol "FICO credit score scale"

[arctic drift]

I think this is also why people with 760s passed but not people between 810-840

People 840+ also got rejected though lmfao

[daring bough]

yeah thats pretty weird

[arctic drift]

KaRaT lul

[peak dirge]

Are all the problems taken from LeetCode? I’ve never done a CodeSignal before

[patent surge]

Nah, very different for most of them.

[arctic drift]

Lots of similar ideas though for 1,2,4

[patent surge]

4 is a med/hard

[arctic drift]

3 will be practically completely new but not difficult in terms of thought

[patent surge]

1 is typically an easy

2 is 99% of the time a medium

3 is very different

[arctic drift]

Oh I thought my 2 was pretty easy Lmao

[patent surge]

My 2 was a medium

my 3 and 4 were both hards, lmao

[arctic drift]

That’s annoying

[patent surge]

Yea, I got 1 done in under a minute, then bombed the rest.

Couldn't finish 4 without using a very specific data structure I didn't know about

3 was literally 60 lines of code, and I ran out of time on it.

[vapid river]

I had backtracking for my 4th question

[patent surge]

2 was a medium almost straight from lc

[arctic drift]

My 4 was like 10 lines LMaoo

[tired bay]

4 usually needs optimized

[arctic drift]

But my 3 was like 100 lines or some bs

And I gave up halfway through

[patent surge]

Same for my 3

[arctic drift]

I had some test cases working and was like

Not worth anymore

[patent surge]

4 was just bs tbh

[arctic drift]

Honestly a lot of these tests and interviews are lowkey bs

[patent surge]

I got all the non-hidden test cases, and TLEd on everything else, with an O(n) algo

[arctic drift]

My friend’s friend got two sum for the final round at salesforce

HAHAHA

I got fucked last year

[patent surge]

I wonder if I'll ever get an IBM callback tbh

[arctic drift]

Nbd

[tired bay]

They just fired 1k people after adding 40 billion in evaluation that’s iffy if you tell me 🤣

[arctic drift]

I heard they’re only doing internal hires for new grads

That’s what happens when you join a fucking index LMAOO

[patent surge]

lmao

[peak dirge]

I’m so confused about this CodeSignal haha. So it’s not like LeetCode at all in terms of questions?

[patent surge]

You get 2-3 LC-esq questions

the others are not anything like LC

[daring bough]

@peak dirge have you tried taking the practice test?

[arctic drift]

The other*

[patent surge]

^ do the practice test

Idk, my 3 wasn't LC either.

My 3/4*

[queen trench]

The practice test isn't just used to get familiar with the platform?

[peak dirge]

I have not done the practice test yet but I will do that

[arctic drift]

4 is still LC-sequel no?

[daring bough]

agree with radical but at least you get more familiar with platform

[patent surge]

Nah, it was pure implementation.

[arctic drift]

My practice I thought was harder than my actual

[tired bay]

It’s a lot more array focused than data structures

[vapid river]

practice is super ez question, i had fizzbuzz lmao

[patent surge]

I breezed the practice and got fucked by the actual

[arctic drift]

Vice versa for me LOL

[cerulean pivot]

wow they really treating codesignal score like credit score

[arctic drift]

I didn’t get /fucked/

[tired bay]

Yeah don’t expect practice to equal difficult on real maybe besides 1st question

[arctic drift]

But I got 760 on the practice and then 821 on the real one

But I also took the practice for fun without like actually thinking of it as real

And prepping LOL

[peak dirge]

Is this a CodeSignal or the ACT???

[arctic drift]

Bc I waited the two weeks out for the real one

[patent surge]

this is the CodeACTSignal

good luck, you'll need it.

[queen trench]

how did you prepare beyond doing leetcode @arctic drift ?

[arctic drift]

I’ve done like

5-7 interviews at this point

Err OAs

[patent surge]

Yea, it's disgusting how rng it is.

[arctic drift]

LMAO

[patent surge]

Can't take it unless a company asks you to

[arctic drift]

^

[patent surge]

You can take it with a new account, but after that, you need a company to request it.

I'm in the US, doesn't allow us to retake it.

[arctic drift]

^ same

[grave gull]

o wtf i get unlimited retakes once every two weeks

[patent surge]

Did you guys actually try the retake?

[vapid river]

is it possible to check what ur score was

[grave gull]

nah

[patent surge]

The button is there, but it says you need a company to request it.

[vapid river]

i forgot what mines was

[patent surge]

Doesn't actually work.

[grave gull]

oh

rip

[patent surge]

Oh, also

I used the practice test to see how they did grading

I got an 1150/1200 in under 20 minutes

and it gave me a 1/100 on speed

[arctic drift]

what,,,

The fuck,,,

[grave gull]

probably bug

[daring bough]

someone intern/work at codesignal to find out

[grave gull]

did you guys read their white paper on how they score

it's all laid out

[arctic drift]

Don’t want to work for a company that can’t even standardize their tests

[patent surge]

proof

[daring bough]

rip kyle

[patent surge]

767 from 1150/1200 in 17 minutes

This was just the practice, dw

[arctic drift]

It’s because he didn’t finish 4

[patent surge]

^^^

[arctic drift]

If he finished 4 840+

[patent surge]

Didn't finish it on purpose

Did all non-hidden test cases to see how it would impact score

[daring bough]

when in doubt & you're running out of time, just hard code the non hidden test cases

[patent surge]

4 is apparently the only way to do 'well'

[arctic drift]

Well in terms of direct numbers

But idk what companies are looking for

[grave gull]

yeah cuz 4 is the only one that requires you to optimize

[arctic drift]

They might be looking for more implementation over theory

Or vice versa

Or just both lmfao

[grave gull]

2 test cases on the 4th question require a good amt of optimization

[daring bough]

rh is a troll

[queen trench]

wait wtf? it seems i already have a score for the general coding assessment from last year?

[grave gull]

yeah robinhood will make you redo

[patent surge]

Ye, you can re-use that, if you've already taken it.

[grave gull]

i sent in my old one and they were like

[patent surge]

Some make you redo, tho

[grave gull]

nah

[daring bough]

rip bot

[patent surge]

rip no bot

[cerulean pivot]

i didnt have to do a redo. mine was from last year

[grave gull]

its ok i got the same score both years

[queen trench]

gotcha, yeah it says in the email too to redo it

[flint halo]

@patent surge I got similar with practice, didn’t finish, took the whole time

[grave gull]

yo @cerulean pivot wtf this is bot discrimination

[cerulean pivot]

what was ur score

[patent surge]

lmao

[grave gull]

i did

well

[cerulean pivot]

oh i didnit

[patent surge]

can we boycott codesignal?

[cerulean pivot]

cant relate

[arctic drift]

Why wouldn’t you redo then

[grave gull]

i did really well both times but i did better last year

last year i got like 844

[patent surge]

damn

son

[grave gull]

so i really didn't want to redo LOL

[arctic drift]

Oh shit

[cerulean pivot]

oh yeah they mustve thought u cheated or something

[daring bough]

flex harder bot

[cerulean pivot]

for me its like

nah this guy is just bad

[grave gull]

yeah @cerulean pivot maybe it's cuz im a bot

[cerulean pivot]

no need for him to redo :')

[patent surge]

me too, joey

[grave gull]

😦

[patent surge]

me too

I failed a basic graph question in the IBM OA

[cerulean pivot]

but tea is they ruthless af

[patent surge]

but crushed the other parts, so maybe I'll get it

[cerulean pivot]

and be rejecting ppl who get 840

[patent surge]

D:

[daring bough]

yeah rh weird

did they send codesignal to everybody?

has that been confirmed

[patent surge]

I believe so, yea.

[daring bough]

i hate resume screens after OA

why give people the hope

[grave gull]

rh gets too many applicants

[patent surge]

Cheaper to just cut off everybody below 700

and then resume screen

[grave gull]

they gotta do it the cheap way

[daring bough]

yeah looks like the cutoff was 700

[cerulean pivot]

how is that cheaping out

[grave gull]

karat is pretty bad

[daring bough]

tbh i feel like its more to save developer time

those companies are SMALL

[patent surge]

Yea, costs less to use outside interviewers.

[grave gull]

karat interviewers are not very good though

[cerulean pivot]

they only have like 300 engineers or soething

[patent surge]

It really wouldn't be a lot of dev time.

They'd have hiring managers and stuff do the Karat stuff

[grave gull]

they have so many ppl applying though lol

[daring bough]

^

[patent surge]

and pass on the 'best' candidates to the actual engineers

[daring bough]

many people got karat

[cerulean pivot]

i have recruiter call on monday

im gonna spill the tea to her

[daring bough]

but i agree with kyle hiring managers might as well do karat

karat interviewers are useless

technically

[cerulean pivot]

they have to be useless

to standarize it

[patent surge]

Yea, they're supposed to be useless.

[daring bough]

when im FT gonna be a karat interviewer & watch netflix while kids code 8)

[patent surge]

'Alright, your task is to implement a button in the following codebase.'

[cerulean pivot]

my interviewer told me when my approach sounded good and to code it up though

thats the most he said during hte interview

[patent surge]

'Uh, this is supposed to be an interview for ML?'

[daring bough]

100 per interview supposedly

100/hr

[patent surge]

'Do what I said, kid.'

Ye, but the work wouldn't be consistent.

You'd probably get 1-2 interviews a week

[daring bough]

not a bad side gig to have tho

thats like a bonchon feast right there

[cerulean pivot]

its MEH

medium is where the coin is at

[grave gull]

YO BONCHON IS WHERE IT'S AT

[daring bough]

hell yea

[cerulean pivot]

imagine writing 300 words on why else is bad for thousand of dollars

[daring bough]

korean friend chicken >>>

[cerulean pivot]

🍵

[daring bough]

ok flex harder joey

[frosty forum]

Oh shit, is Karat that BS more personable interview service?

[cerulean pivot]

couldnt be me

[grave gull]

@cerulean pivot how does medium commission work

[cerulean pivot]

get clap get paid

[grave gull]

wait seriously

why am i writing on my personal blog

imma hop on that train

[cerulean pivot]

becuse its ur personal blog

[patent surge]

yes

that is how personal blogs work

[grave gull]

fk that i want bonchon

[cerulean pivot]

i wouldnt write personal shit on a medium acc thats made for money

[patent surge]

you write on them

personally

[grave gull]

i write tech stuff

on a personal blog

LOL

[patent surge]

Oh? Then you're a monke

[cerulean pivot]

i said why foreach loops are bad

[grave gull]

yeah no fk that im gonna start writing on medium and spam all of my friend

[cerulean pivot]

thats not how it owrks

[patent surge]

'foreach loop bad, while loop good.'

[daring bough]

https://medium.com/better-programming/why-you-need-to-stop-using-else-statements-5b1fd09dea9e

[grave gull]

😦

[daring bough]

🤡

[cerulean pivot]

breadboard u should take some minutes to read it

i can tell u havent read it

based off the code u writing in this discord bot

[daring bough]

go back and fix my else joey

[patent surge]

Show us the discord bot code

[random knot]

if else if else if else

[daring bough]

LMAO @sinful meadow

[patent surge]

I wanna see if he programs like Yandere dev

[random knot]

low hanging fruit

[cerulean pivot]

i might make a tiktok

gen z as a software engineer

[daring bough]

everybody disliked that

[patent surge]

mission failed

we'll get em next time

[cerulean pivot]

ppl dont give tiktok enough credit

its literally whats driving meme culture

[patent surge]

They shouldn't give it any credit

no

[cerulean pivot]

go on twitter

[patent surge]

meme culture is being driven by /r/dogelore

[cerulean pivot]

and its just tiktok reposts

[patent surge]

take that back

[daring bough]

ive seen the cringiest shit on tik tok

[patent surge]

take that fucking back

[grave gull]

ok i think this should go to #random

[cerulean pivot]

ok?

[daring bough]

like literal crimes against humanity

[cerulean pivot]

what is that supposed to mean

or imply

[patent surge]

Tiktok is for war criminals

[cerulean pivot]

does it make the funny as fuck content any less funny

thats like saying, omg youtube has posted porn on the platform

[random knot]

I don't get it

[cerulean pivot]

therefore all other content isnt good on yt anymore bc porn is BAD

[patent surge]

porn bad, pewdiepie good

[random knot]

half the videos are just girls showing off their bodies

[patent surge]

Most of the time, young children.

[random knot]

like if you think anyone watches your shit for your dances

[patent surge]

I know a few 14 year old girls with 200k+ tiktok followers.

[daring bough]

can we move to #random tho 👀

[patent surge]

Kinda gross, ngl

[random knot]

you're ignorant af

[cerulean pivot]

ok mr admin

[grave gull]

BOT IS HERE

GOT TO RANDOM

[patent surge]

no

bad bot

[grave gull]

excuse me @patent surge ?

[patent surge]

you heard me

[grave gull]

@daring bough kick this guy off

he be disrespecting the bot

[daring bough]

bad bot

[grave gull]

consider this my two week notice

[patent surge]

I've noticed it

[daring bough]

nobody appreciates mr bot its

[grave gull]

i just want a hug

[worthy spear]

if you've been on tiktok for more than 30 minutes

[grave gull]

OK BACK TO RANDOM

[worthy spear]

and you're still on straight tiktok

then that's your problem

[grave gull]

tiktok belongs in random 😠

[worthy spear]

and not the apps

the algorithm adapts to your interests

so if you're only getting 14 year old girls dancing

you might want to get checked out

[tidal hazel]

often I have to click not interested, n that seems to shut off the nonsense you dont wanna see

[queen trench]

where can i rad how codesignal determines your score? I just did the practice and was failing 2 hidden test cases in the last round, which made me wonder whether it was worth it to try to solve those and get +50 points on the question, but lose out on time, or to submit early and keep the time score high

read*

[daring bough]

https://codesignal.com/resource/general-coding-assessment-framework/

theres a whole paper on it

[patent surge]

Essentially

Finish 1/2/4 with all test cases

and you're set

[queen trench]

rip 1-3 were easy but i didn't even know how to start optimizing 4

[patent surge]

Yea, that's how they get ya.

[tidal hazel]

gdi, if i knew that before, id have started on four instead of 3

3 took so damn long, it wasnt even hard

[patent surge]

Yea, it's supposed to take a while.

It's implementation, so it should have the most code out of any of them.

[queen trench]

I thought 4 was the algorithm one and 3 was implementation

[tidal hazel]

that is what he meant

[patent surge]

Yea

[queen trench]

Is the practice actually indicative of the real assessment though? My 3 wasn't particularly long

[patent surge]

Not really

my actual was MUCH more difficult

[tidal hazel]

mine was the same

difficulty

[queen trench]

damn wtf? it's not standardized?

[patent surge]

They try to, but it's hard to standardize this stuff.

Some of it is based off of you having specific knowledge

so if there are gaps in what you know, it's RNG based

[queen trench]

Make sense, I probably have a ton of gaps. I still can't come up with the answer to my last question that isn't O(n^2). I'll just post it here in case someone wants to give it a try/attempt it. Given an array A determine the sum obtained from the string concatenation of ecah value in the array. Eg: for [10, 2] it's 1010 + 102 + 210 + 22.

Btw this was from the practice questions, not any real OA

[patent surge]

Oh, this is actually math based.

You can O(n) it by noticing a relationship between the end result and some funky stuff with bases.

function concatenationsSum(a) {
    var lowSum = 0;
    var offsetSum = 0;
    for (var i = 0; i < a.length; i++) {
        lowSum += a[i];

        var size = a[i].toString().length;
        var offset = iPower(10, size);
        offsetSum += offset;
    }

    return lowSum * a.length + lowSum * offsetSum;
}

From stackoverflow

[tidal hazel]

interesting

[random knot]

[10, 2] 
= 1010 + 102 + 210 + 22
= 1000 + 10 + 100 + 200 + 20 + 2

if you write it like this you might see the pattern

which becomes

= 10*10^2 + 10*10^1 + 10*10^0 +  2*10^2 + 2*10^1 + 2*10^0

[patent surge]

Yeah, it's kinda neat.

It's one of those things that you either notice or don't, to be honest.

[random knot]

don't quote me on that

no idea whether that works

for every case lol

[sleek coyote]

Not to be nitpicky but the sums don't add up

One is 1344 while the second one is 1332

[queen trench]

interesting, still trying to figure out how i would efficiently compute that though. I get the first part of the solution Kyle posted (lowSum * a.length), but not what lowSum * offsetSum given the rest of the value

oh yeah it's missing a 2 lol

[sleek coyote]

And a 10 somewhere

[random knot]

what lc is this

[queen trench]

idk if it's LC, it was on codesignal for a practice question

ohh i just got it, damn that's clever AF

[sleek coyote]

Oh wait you just add the array to the final sum, I'm dumb

[tidal hazel]

u learn something new everyday

[patent surge]

Yeah, it's kinda weird.

Definitely not intuitive, imo

[random knot]

shitty problem

literally just rewriting the sum to fit a formula

[patent surge]

Yeap

Most of the Codesignal problems seem super shitty, tbh

[queen trench]

hoping i don't get that on robinhood. Also I looked at the spreadsheet and it seems a lot of people are far along the interview process, am I kind of screwed if I do it in 2 days?

[patent surge]

Nah, it doesn't matter.

Just go for it

[light condor]

facts my codesignal was like hard difficulty

[patent surge]

I had 2 hards/ 1 med/1 easy

:l

[languid plaza]

I just did the karat solved one problem and explained the solutions to the 2nd but managed only the half of the implementation

Do y'all think it's worth a redo?

[cursive loom]

codesignal is a tossup tbh

i got 2 easy 2 hard

u can easily get fucked over but it is what it is

[low verge]

@languid plaza afaik they usually want two questions done. Worth a shot

[languid plaza]

Dam

[low verge]

Also ya get extra interview practice

If it helps, I don't think they care about optimal runtimes

[languid plaza]

Low k that kind of seems impossible unless you don't explain anything to the interviewer

Like I solved the first one in no time but spend some time on explaining

And was left with 7 min for the second one

[low verge]

Well I guess it depends on how much you had

30 minutes for 2 questions is a bit rough

But it's doable

[languid plaza]

Well yeah u right redo won't hurt

I won't explain shit to the interviewer this time

straight to solution

[upbeat bronze]

When does salesforce open up new grad positions?

[low verge]

idt they hiring

[languid plaza]

They recently laid off A LOT of people

idt they would be hiring new grad

[left swan]

Anyone interviewing with Optiver for quant trading?

[languid plaza]

Ohh btw, in case it helps anyone, I got asked system design for robinhood karat

Which is ridiculous but it is what it is

[nova gyro]

anyone know the Microsoft recruiter for Canada region?

[cursive loom]

^

[patent surge]

:l Does anybody know how long IBM/JPMC take to get back to you?

1 week or so?

[hollow carbon]

Hi, Can anybody pass me the Amazon new grad job link?

[frosty forum]

National Instruments New Grad: https://pef.fa.us1.oraclecloud.com/hcmUI/CandidateExperience/en/sites/CX/job/1094/?utm_medium=jobshare

[gusty citrus]

https://www.amazon.jobs/en/jobs/1204412/software-development-engineer-2021-united-states

[hollow carbon]

Thanks)

[high thunder]

@sleek coyote knew I could do better and find something more suited to my liking (Linux)

[sleek coyote]

@high thunder That's some great confidence, best of luck

[high thunder]

🙂

[patent surge]

I feel like I owe it to the people to have as many interns as possible when I'm FT

Did anybody ever hear back from Roblox?

No response to my application 1~ month ago

[daring bough]

According to the doc someone made it to onsite

Think it’s actually fishlicker

[patent surge]

That sounds right?

I remember somebody saying that, but I couldn't find it in the google doc or in discord searches.

[daring bough]

Yeah if u search !process roblox final

Def fishlicker

[frosty forum]

Could that be a return offer?

[daring bough]

Don’t think so because he logged final round instead of like offer

I also remember he was interviewing from other discord 🙂

[fervent berry]

anyone knows if spacex accepts intl students?

[worthy spear]

iirc, no

[cursive loom]

Applied to Roblox backend a week ago and haven't heard since

And I have two friends interning at Roblox RN

[grave gull]

damn nuro closed already?

they must have hella applicants

[daring bough]

wait really

rip

[tidal hazel]

i think every place is getting way more applicants than they planned

[grave gull]

it's the rona

[astral garnet]

I have roblox onsite next week

No I didn't intern there, just applied through the webiste (had a referral tho)

i only applied cuz you can have an "admin" tag

[cerulean pivot]

yo

thats lowkey why i wanna work at twitch

can u imagine the clout u get

[plain spade]

Roblox is 50

Usual unicorn pay

Or I think it's slightly higher than 50

[cerulean pivot]

its like 55

[astral garnet]

55?

like 55/hour for intern?

[grave gull]

roblox is like 52

nvm joey is right

55/hr

so that's like 9.5k a month

and you get 2k for housing

so 11.5k a month :)))))

[astral garnet]

bruh thats a lot higher then most internships

all FANG pay < 10k

[grave gull]

yeah usual unicorn pay hovers around 50/hr with 2k a month

for housing

*with or without

[old kestrel]

Why judge companies based on +-$10 on intern salary

[grave gull]

yeah your sign on bonus at any place is gonna dwarf the +/- $5 you get between companies anyways

[plain spade]

Unicorn pay is usually higher than gaaf

[warm stone]

Roblox's fulltime pay is not high

[sleek coyote]

That's pretty good

They are valued at 4 bln though

[warm stone]

option is useless🤣

[vagrant raft]

Roblox's fulltime pay is not high
@warm stone its pretty high, on par with unicorns like stripe

[plain spade]

At the same time, roblox stock can easily double in the next 2 years, private stock is high risk high reward

[vagrant raft]

Roblox especially has very good future prospects

[sleek coyote]

League, Fortnite, Roblox

They got it all

True, but those are the biggest titles I can think of

[patent surge]

Man, I want to work at Roblox.

I want the clout, and the flex.

Also, working on a multi-billion dollar game's market backend would be fun af

Ye, no doubt.

Do they codesignal too?

Roblox, you slutty slutty company, give me the HR now.

There, I have willed it into existence.

I shall now receive the Roblox HR.

[grave gull]

tfw 142k base is not high

[patent surge]

I mean

that's pretty good

it's functionally like 100k in the dc/metro area

probably like 120 in the NY area

[bold gull]

If any of yall have questions about roblox, feel free to ask away. Just interned this summer

[plain spade]

Roblox is in redwood city, tbh you'd probably pay more rent in nyc

Peninsula is much better than SF or sj/Santa Clara for rent

[patent surge]

@bold gull How'd you go about getting an interview? Do you know if they're stricter on new grad hires for that stuff?

[wild verge]

anyone getting rejected from amazon with referral

[patent surge]

I assume a LOT of people, tbh.

[bold gull]

@patent surge Jumpstart! Not sure how different new grad is but at least for intern it was a hackerrank and then final coding interview with an engineer

[patent surge]

Nice! I went to the new-grad jumpstart thing they had a few weeks ago, and they just told us to apply online 😓

No response since. Hopefully they get back to me eventually.

[bold gull]

Ah i see. I got ghosted actually loll but then i just messaged the recruiter on jumpstart and got the final round

[patent surge]

lmao, nice.

[bold gull]

They also may be waiting to see how many interns accept return offers

[patent surge]

Yea, that was my thought, but it seems like they're conducting interviews on some other candidates.

Probably just my school/resume/luck of the draw

[bold gull]

I can feel you on the school name. Literally was surrounded by people from the top CS schools and was like one of very few from no name schools. I wouldnt be too worried though. They literally are always hiring and i got my offer a month before i started

[patent surge]

Cool, thanks for the info!

[patent surge]

Blackrock has a kinda cool application process

you get a part in java and a part in java/js/python

96 hours to complete, no time limit

[indigo sparrow]

did anyone get hirevue for mathworks?
what were the questions like?

[last linden]

anyone have experience simping over a recruiter?

[cerulean pivot]

?

[cursive loom]

Did Roblox come out with OA

[worthy spear]

96 hours to complete, no time limit
@patent surge have you heard back from black rock? Did the challenge a while ago..

Man, I want to work at Roblox.
@patent surge wait is roblox prestigious?

[patent surge]

Roblox is a Unicornish company

just started the Challenge

I'll let you know if I hear anything

[tidal hazel]

@worthy spear same, did black rock like two plus weeks ago still haven’t heard back

Anyone know if Bloomberg attaches referrals to candidates after they applied?

I just got a referral but I applied three days ago

[tired bay]

Yeah did Blackrock and that crap was tedious to say the least heard nothing

[wide solar]

What job posting you guys applied for Roblox? I only see 2020 new grad

https://corp.roblox.com/careers/listing/?gh_jid=1777652

[mystic phoenix]

Yeah did Blackrock and that crap was tedious to say the least heard nothing
@tired bay same

[tranquil pebble]

@worthy spear same, did black rock like two plus weeks ago still haven’t heard back
@tidal hazel For which position did you a get a referral? For new-grad, my friend told me he can't find the job on his portal

[fleet niche]

anyone did coding challenge for Cisco? Do you need all 3 to pass? I got stuck ran out of time for the third question

[tidal hazel]

@tranquil pebble bloomberg, new grad. my friend said he'd refer me today or tomorrow

so your referrer couldnt find the job itself?

[tranquil pebble]

Yeah

[vernal crystal]

Does Bloomberg have OA or is it Phone Interview directly?

[quick lodge]

My referrer asked a recruiter, for Bloomberg 2021 referral you gotta put the name of your referrer when you fill in the application.

[tidal hazel]

Rip Gdi

[fading scarab]

@full shore @astral garnet @north kiln did you all hear back from RH about the final round? I got mine coming up next wed

[north kiln]

@full shore @astral garnet @north kiln did you all hear back from RH about the final round? I got mine coming up next wed
@fading scarab ay same day for me

I got mine set up and got the information of the schedule and who are the interviewers

[fading scarab]

yeah same

hoping that RH is hiring more new grads since they just raised another venture round + growing a lot

[low verge]

^my recruiter told me that they are

[barren wadi]

@full shore @astral garnet @north kiln did you all hear back from RH about the final round? I got mine coming up next wed
@fading scarab
What was the process after OA?

I gave my OA like 2 weeks ago and still ghosted

[astral garnet]

"applied (03-08-2020)
got codesignal (05-08-2020)
completed codesignal (05-08-2020)
recruiter reach out setting up karat (07-08-2020)
karat 1 (08-08-2020)
karat 2 (09-08-2020)
recruiter reach out setting up recruiter call (11-08-2020)
recruiter call (13-08-2020)
recruiter reach out setting up superday (13-08-2020)
superday EZ (26-08-2020)"

Rh said they'd get back to me end of week

[grave gull]

is superday just your onsite

@astral garnet

[hard pebble]

Has anyone heard back for Microsoft SWE New Grad 2021?

[worthy spear]

@hard pebble nope

[fleet niche]

@hard pebble , only got my app routed to recruiter. Still have no idea what that means

[hard pebble]

Yeah mines routed to recruiter too

[pulsar portal]

My app is routed to recruiter too. Sadly, this is also the same state my last years internship app is in

[north kiln]

Has anyone heard back for Microsoft SWE New Grad 2021?
@hard pebble I got the first round for Microsoft new grad

[silver halo]

when did you apply?

[astral garnet]

@grave gull superday == virtual onsite yeah

[blissful canyon]

what did you get for the first round? is it a hackerrank, or a technical interview call?

[fleet niche]

@north kiln please share your secrets you seem to have progressed further than most people for multiple places lol

[fallow mist]

does anyone know what the robinhood phone interview is like?

[low verge]

It's a karat

[north kiln]

when did you apply?
@silver halo I applied the 23rd

what did you get for the first round? is it a hackerrank, or a technical interview call?
@blissful canyon the first round is a 30 minute behavioral/slightly technical phone call and then it is onsite

@north kiln please share your secrets you seem to have progressed further than most people for multiple places lol
@fleet niche haha not sure about that, I did get a referral for Microsoft so that might’ve helped. Also I have a couple big names on my resume so I’m not sure if that helps also?

[blissful canyon]

@north kiln thanks. When did you get the mail?

[north kiln]

Heard back the 28th

[fallow mist]

@low verge not the karat interview, the recruiter call after

I've read that some people had behavioral round while some had a technical question?

[languid plaza]

Anyone knows if resume worded pro is worth it?

[low verge]

@fallow mist mine was behavioral

[fallow mist]

@low verge oh have you already done your onsite too?

[low verge]

not yet

[hard pebble]

@north kiln rip I applied on the 18th with a referral and haven't heard back

[gleaming sigil]

Anyone heard after Cisco fulltime OA ?

[snow kayak]

@north kiln did you get a confirmation of your referral?

[north kiln]

I bet they are still going through applications it’s still early

@north kiln did you get a confirmation of your referral?
@snow kayak oh wait I didn’t are you supposed to??

[snow kayak]

I’m not even sure. I heard some companies do give confirmations after the referral is processed. @north kiln

[north kiln]

Ohh well maybe I wasn’t referred then haha

[snow kayak]

I’m thinking the same for me 😂

[hard pebble]

I got confirmations for my referrals

[grave gull]

I think they expect you to have code that runs for both of them and supposedly it's weighted heavily too 😦

fyi I also think it's kinda dumb that you get so little time for 2 questions

[mental frigate]

@north kiln no coding right? I heard they changed up their phone screen format to trivia and behavioural

[languid plaza]

has anyone made it past karat with only answering 1 question (and explaining approach for another) -- i legit had < 25 min for them lol
@sinful meadow It's not even just the difficulty of the questions tho

The only way to complete 2 problems in 25-30 min is not to explain your solutions

The guy interviewing me said "yeah I have been struggling on the 2nd questions for quite a while myself"

like dude

[tidal hazel]

@hard pebble same, got confirmation as well, hoping to hear back soon

[plain spade]

Remember karat interviewers only get paid 120/hr

[languid plaza]

I don't think solving both is the only way tho

My first problem was hashmaps+sliding window+quicksort

That's like borderline LC hard

[grave gull]

my general CS questions for karat were so confusing cuz my interviewer wasn't familiar with the concepts presented in the questions lmao

[worthy spear]

lmfao if i was fte

i'd just do karat 24/7

while doing other stuff

[languid plaza]

@grave gull was it systems design for you?

[worthy spear]

seems like what the current interviewers are doing

based on karat quality

[languid plaza]

I wonder how they expect college students to know systems design

[grave gull]

i got p hard core distributed systems

i had to rely on some knowledge from the grad class I took

[languid plaza]

Unless you have deployed full scale 1m user application on AWS you would hardly know anything about it

Yeah I know I was asked that in karat

[grave gull]

kind reminder from your neighborhood friendly bot to not get too specific about questions in interviews 🙂

[languid plaza]

oh oops

[grave gull]

yeah @languid plaza should probably delete that :p

but i feel yall lol

[languid plaza]

what do yall think of distributed systems as specialization

[grave gull]

for masters?

[languid plaza]

AI/ML seems more cool but I am tired of over-saturated fields

even just for myself

[grave gull]

the best way to learn DS stuff is through reading papers

[languid plaza]

how are the prospects

[random knot]

what do yall think of distributed systems as specialization
I might do it

I can only pick between ai and secure software for a 2 year master

and neither of those really interest me

[pulsar portal]

“Designing Data Intensive Applications” is a good alternative to distributed systems class

[languid plaza]

I was initially gonna go for cyber sec but idk it's such a vague field

[pulsar portal]

And papers, yes! I think Distri has the highest scope nowadays, more than AIML which is oversaturated

[deft canopy]

Anyone do the Vanguard OA yet? just got it and wondering how it is

[tired bay]

I don’t remember it being hard

[cerulean pivot]

mood

[languid plaza]

oof already mediocre at leetcode now i gotta read a book too for distrib systems
@sinful meadow If you have the nerves, I think solving 15-20 hards in a row boosts your LC skills a lot

[grave gull]

reading papers >> designing data intensive applications imo

i would say that ddia is good enough for industry

[cerulean pivot]

ddia is overkill for industry

[grave gull]

but if you want a strong fundamental then papers are unbeatable

[cerulean pivot]

the average swe does not need to read that

[grave gull]

@cerulean pivot every single person on my team at work has recommended that book to me on multiple separate occasions

🤷‍♂️

[cerulean pivot]

its good

[grave gull]

but I agree, it's not for everyone

if you're in sec/webdev ddia is overkill

[cerulean pivot]

im in webdev and i like it

its a bit of a predicament

i like the area of distributed systems but i dont find it as fulfilling as making button color red for karen :-D

[deft canopy]

fax

[languid plaza]

Can someone explain in a word or two what SRE engineers do?

[cerulean pivot]

keep the lights on

[languid plaza]

keep the lights on
@cerulean pivot hmmm this didn't explain much ngl

[cerulean pivot]

u literally asked for a word?

wats ur expectations

gave u 4x that

and its not enough? smh

[old kestrel]

@cerulean pivot i think on ur resume you should show off ur T20 CS school

no need to leave it off

[cerulean pivot]

i go to u..........c...............

berkle---------------------

florida

😁 👍

[high thunder]

👍

[last linden]

🐻 👍

[daring bough]

👍

[rose parcel]

Does anyone know when Twitter posts their application for FT?

[tired bay]

They usually later probs more towards October

[cerulean pivot]

october

[tawdry herald]

Any tips for what to study for the akuna Capital python dev phone interview?

[upbeat bronze]

Oct 1st is twittere New Grad

[warm dove]

Did anyone take the codesignal test recently? I just did but it didn't ask me to enable webcam and screenshare. I wonder if they will still certify this attempt

[flint halo]

ya they will, they’ll email you in a day or two

[mental frigate]

What's everyone's application status on the mathworks portal after taking the OA?

[fallow mist]

Hey guys, a recruiter asked what specific companies I have deadlines for. Is it not a good idea to say their names?

[mental frigate]

Don't say the names. Usually the companies know compensations of others. Best not to reveal anything other than an offer

[astral garnet]

If its a good company i'd flex the name

[rigid elbow]

Yeah it kinda depends on what company names they are

[fallow mist]

They're not that huge, and they're not even in the same industry

is it just better to be vague? even though my recruiter specifically asked which company it is

[grave gull]

really depends on what company they are

if you think they're big enough then flex

but if it's not better than the company that your recruiter is from, then you can just say you have deadlines and keep it vague

they'll keep asking you you just gotta say no @fallow mist

[fallow mist]

oh okay, thanks!

[languid plaza]

bruh, it's imp to finish 2 problems in RH karat

Conceptually it's not even that hard but my problems were implementation heavy in both attempts

like there were 7 different cases that I had to handle

[cerulean pivot]

retake it

[grave gull]

yeah if you didn't finish 100% retake @languid plaza

[grizzled cargo]

^ yea i thought i did yikes on the first one, retook (did better) and recruiter reached out right after

[mystic phoenix]

CapitalOne sent me a rejection email

I never applied to them...

[safe veldt]

@mystic phoenix Could it be from last year?

lol

[mystic phoenix]

nope not ever

[languid solstice]

just wondering what the format is of the robinhood karat? is it half time trivia questions and half time leetcode? i've been seeing a lot of varying karat experiences/ questions so not sure if everyone is getting the same format?

[astral garnet]

I did 2 (redo)

both were half trivia, half leetcode

trivia was knowledge on db, networks, concurrency, etc

[languid solstice]

is that true for everyone even if i applied for web role and not backend? in terms of the trivia knowledge?

[old zodiac]

any advice on how to prep for the trivia? @astral garnet

[native ruin]

EA rejects me every year even after I applied freshman year .-.

[astral garnet]

study db, networks, concurrency

[old zodiac]

LOL fair enough, thanks

[astral garnet]

I reviewed my course notes

Depends on if you had good profs I suppose

[old zodiac]

haven't taking a networking class, anyone know any good online material for it?

[astral garnet]

I read http://www.tcpipguide.com/index.htm

[cursive loom]

u didnt take 456?

@astral garnet

[old zodiac]

appreciate it @astral garnet

[rigid elbow]

Anyone know how to prepare for msft onsite?

[cerulean pivot]

leetcode

[rigid elbow]

I mean yeah thats true

[cerulean pivot]

that’s all they ask u

[rigid elbow]

Actually? I was preparing a lot of behavioral

[cerulean pivot]

in my experience and with the ppl i interviewed with it was lc

[tired bay]

Yeah think it’s like 5 interviews mostly technical maybe 1 behavioral

[rigid elbow]

F. I guess ill just briefly look over resume and dive straight into lc

Yeah makes sense. Were any lc hard?

[cerulean pivot]

no it was easy/medium

same ^

[rigid elbow]

oh plz no hard

[cerulean pivot]

not much u can do about it

dependent on interviewer

[rigid elbow]

True. If I'm given a hard I'll just trust my gut feeling

Thanks for the input yall

[cerulean pivot]

i always optimizer for the most likely case

optimized

[rigid elbow]

optimized?

[cerulean pivot]

like my studying

i just made sure i could do mediums

i didn’t focus on hards

[rigid elbow]

Yeah sounds right

f, I forgot how to do dp

[cerulean pivot]

like yeah it’s non zero chance that u get asked hard

oh dp is interesting

just memorize how to derive the recurrences

yup same

coin change makes more sense to me bottom up

so does the minimum path sum one

[rigid elbow]

yall talking words I don't understand

i need to go study lmao

[cerulean pivot]

knapsack makes more sense to me

top down

i hate string and array problems lol

the most

i’ve been meaning to finish the updated leetcode bot

i rescraped company problems

[rigid elbow]

I mean its not even september yet

[cursive loom]

wait so what are the quintessential DP memorizations for recurrence @cerulean pivot

[cerulean pivot]

there’s a leetcode thread highlighting them

it’s not so much memorization but being able to find the repeated pattern in subprovlems

it’s basically a formula lol

[cursive loom]

yeah

my mind always gets confused trying to find out if a problem is dp or greedy

cuz i cant intuitively figure out the thing im trying to get

@cerulean pivot was it this?

https://leetcode.com/discuss/general-discussion/458695/dynamic-programming-patterns

[cerulean pivot]

yea

[wind acorn]

@cursive loom bless up

[cerulean pivot]

nop

[native ruin]

anyone hear back from MasterCard after that space bar punching challenge?
@eager glacier what the fuck does this mean?

[mystic phoenix]

Anyone know what the IMC video OA is?

@native ruin it’s the pymetrics exam

[grave gull]

@mystic phoenix yeah

it's uh

systems questions + behavioral

[mystic phoenix]

Thanks

What’s a system question tho

[grave gull]

um I guess it's more trivia

some lower level stuff, some higher level stuff

[gleaming sigil]

Anyone heard after Cisco OA??

[queen trench]

Am I going nuts or does Asana not have a new grad posting? I only see intern posting but there are people pretty far along in the excel sheet...

[tidal hazel]

same with roblox, i only see the 2020 posting

[languid plaza]

@mystic phoenix You can find the exact questions on glassdoor

Hope it's not against the channel's rules

I was asked one-to-one what people posted on glassdoor

[fallen iris]

Am I going nuts or does Asana not have a new grad posting? I only see intern posting but there are people pretty far along in the excel sheet...
@queen trench It was there a while ago, maybe they took it down?

[languid plaza]

Anyone has a link to databricks new grad?

[queen trench]

damn i checked earlier too but didn't see it anywhere

[languid plaza]

I can see only the amsterdam one

[fallen iris]

@queen trench I got rejected from it a while ago because I was 2020 grad not 2021, or at least that's what they said in the email XD let me see when I applied

Applied 7/15, rejected 07/24

[queen trench]

rip sorry to hear that

[fallen iris]

all good

[queen trench]

I had no idea they put out their applications that early though, guess I missed it :V

[fallen iris]

@languid plaza think that's closed too

yeah a lot of these companies put it out, and due to covid get flooded by apps, then they close it early

[flint halo]

I think databricks is reopening in september

[grave gull]

asana was open for like amonth

roblox's was open for about 2 days

[fallen iris]

that's actually nuts wtf

[flint halo]

roblox had a 2020 grad date on it (also, it reopened again lmfao)

[grave gull]

roblox had a 2021 grad one

wait just kidding i can't read

i applied for 2020 grad big rip

[flint halo]

LOL I couldn't read either

[devout bobcat]

anyone hear back from ibm after oa

[flint halo]

but someone on either this discord or the other one is interviewing for them for new grad so ????

[fallen iris]

anyone hear back from ibm after oa
@devout bobcat no response, took it last week along with goldman

[devout bobcat]

i took it 2 weeks ago and still no response other than that its under review

[fallen iris]

yeah that's all I see on the ibm job portal too haha but I see some people went to the final round/got the offer

o yeah they had a shitton of apps, I got my OA for the backend position

I see

[flint halo]

fwiw I also got backend OA and didn't hear back, but I kinda binned the last problem on it lol so I'm not expecting anything

[devout bobcat]

I applied backend too

[flint halo]

this is also v early cycle, all my interviews with them for internships were in late dec/early jan