#@philip is there a decent wysiwyg/visual
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not sure what grapes are besides nice food. and hmm, there is--ish. it's not a no code platform. but let's say you add a CTA component. you can go into the editor and then select this component, and you'll see it being built in real time. don't wanna advertise but here for example
the stuff on the right is the wysiwyg editor thing but you can't move around the structure of the page completely freely. you can add / remove blocks that are pre-made.
you can give them configuration options e.g. left, right, left. and then edit like that but it's not a nocode platform
oh, yeah, that looks pretty much like umbraco
in my opinion it gives enough configuration to be nice
but not enough for the customer to ruin it lol
FWIW, it's a UI for editing pages that's kinda-sorta like figma
at work we maintain a visual website editor, and we're migrating to grapes js from something proprietary and very old
so i was just sort of quietly (frustratedly) trying to imagine whether it would be easier/faster just to write a Payload plugin for Grapes support than deal w all this!
frankly none of it produces much value anyway. we offer some monthly free support with our billing which includes making website edits, so basically we just edit the damned websites ourselves anyway
ohhh i see
payload is really fast but the benefits are when you build more sites i think
that site is so pretty
lol
there's been an unusual divergence in web design i think
maybe this is all in my head
but there's such a specific aesthetic for tech/software websites -- it probably originated with the github homepage redesign or something out of vercel -- and ALL tech websites are falling in lockstep with that
but it doesn't resemble very closely 2025-2026 web design trends in a broader context
techy site's layouts are symmetrical and more traditional, they feature more gradients/lighting/glow/buttons that are almost old school
no aggressive typography