#It sounds to me like you re cutting off
trim kernel
I probably am. I feel like I just need to find the 'right' way to do this it seems...
late remnant
I'm not sure about you, but I view the process of design as a process of failure
I make a thing, show it to people, they don't like it, I learn why and remake it
And do that over and over and over again
The most important part is to make the thing so that you can learn why it doesn't work.
If you don't make the thing, then you can't learn how to make it better.
trim kernel
I feel like that's been my entire professional career for the last 15 years. Marketing doesn't give a lot of second chances at least in my exprience. One reason why I want to get out of it, I also believe design is iterative and not instant
late remnant
Yeah, so showing your work can be iterative. 99% of portfolios are absolute crap in the first iteration, no matter how cool the project may be. People just won't know how to guide you in explaining your work until they see the work.
Maybe one thing you can try is recording yourself explaining your project to someone, and transcribe that and that becomes your first iteration for talking through your project.
late remnant
The finished project
trim kernel
I see. Would this be the case study? Or like practice for the interview?
late remnant
It's kind of both. You can learn what naturally comes to your mind when speaking about it, then when listening back you can start to think "I could explain this better here" "I'm making a claim here that I can try to support with information"
trim kernel
I see
late remnant
If you're struggling to get started, struggling to write or anything like that, it can just help kickstart the process.
trim kernel
I can usually get started, I just lose confidence pretty quickly when i remember I'm just a marketing designer tying to be something else
late remnant
A mentor won't be able to help with your self-confidence, and those of us here unfortunately can't help with that either. The only thing I can say is that embracing failure has made me look more kindly on myself when I output work that I don't feel confident in, because it's just a step towards work that I do feel good about.
trim kernel
I agree, I know there isn't a course or mentor or job that will help with self confidence so i just lie to myself and say i'm qualified when i know I'm not.
late remnant
I think self-loathing runs all rungs of the career ladder unfortunately.
trim kernel
i figured if i was lucky enough to get to a certain point (director/manager) it would be absorbed by arrogance and inflated ego. lol. That's the only example I've seen in my working experience.
late remnant
I think arrogance is what gets you to a certain point unfortunately.
trim kernel
Maybe this is why i still feel like an entry level designer after 15 years
late remnant
Isn't there some saying about how those who crave power are the ones who are least worthy of it or something
trim kernel
I agree. 100%
late remnant
It's a similar problem probably
trim kernel
I just want to do something besides 'make the logo bigger' couldn't care less about power or influence or even having my name on the product
late remnant
Changing focus is definitely hard, and it is going to take failure and working through confidence and making things to get there, there's not really a way to avoid it.
late remnant
Yeah no problem, I just got laid off so I'm in a similar bucket of figuring out how to assess and understand myself moving forward.
trim kernel
Sorry to hear. I got laid off from a production role in May and I decided to pick up UI design again so of course I end up working at another marketing company. Hope you find a good opportunity soon