#Air Supply changes & raid timer suggestions

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royal marlin
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💡 *What is motivating this suggestion? *
The difference between a gas mask (or respirator) and supplied air/contained air.

💡 *What is your proposal? *
Change or add some masks to look like they actually have an air supply, and are not just a respirator or air filtration gasmask, as much as the aesthetic is cool, it looks non functional.

💡 Exactly and specifically, what should be changed and how?
Could either be explained in lore that stations are filled with bad fumes that require a filtration and they only last for 25 minutes, or add in some bottles. "SCBA" (self contained breathing apparatus) or "SABA" (supplied air breathing apparatus)

This could also even lead to some game play changes. You could have points in raids that allow you to either swap out, or refill, the bottle you wear (as supplied air would mean there is a hose to you and would work for station staff, but not mobile raiders)

Hit character limit but this gets the idea across. Will post more of my nerd Confined Space worker stuff below.

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Could also have things lying around in raids like hoses near beds or work stations with masks attached to them (damaged in the raid, or out of air) could also have banks of bottles for cover, wouldn't mind seeing them explode as well if shot too much (a bottle WILL stop a 9mm. Might depend on angle of hit. Don't ask me how I know this)

I would love to see the player models have a tank on their lower back or hip, and a hose going into the suit somewhere (doesn't have to be the mask, yknow, scifi) I would even like to see them have the ability to get hit and reduce your time in the raid if you get shot in the bottle, have to pull a replacement from a body (npcs could have broken ones every time, players having replacements, or oxygen areas on stations would [mine already has air processing, and you already have air cylinders in game].

Wouldn't want to see your raid time go from 25 to 5, but a lost bottle knocking time down from 25 to 20, and saying "the suit holds 5m of oxygen" or "the system holds most of the oxygen, bottle just fills it in your suit"

Might lead to issues of "well why can't I just stay forever in a raid?" Make it self destruct due to capture? Or purge the pressure in the station? Oxygen management could add a layer. Also could just make ALL dropped bottles expire at the same time, say that they were left on when the person died, even have a hissing sound for the ones in oxygen areas, just make new fresh bottle unobtainable at the end of a raid.

Or, if you just want to say the air is bad, a filter change would be cool too. I think of STALKER and Metro for your safety gear aspects.

Tried to be specific. Will post an SCBA and escape bottle picture. SABA would be less likely for infantry but it's just an SCBA with no tank and a hose.

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That would be supplied air (hose going into the tiny bottle) and an escape bottle. If you have issues with your supply you disconnect the air line going into the air bottle and open the air bottle.

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Another view of the harness

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And this one would be your self contained breathing apparatus. Which are great for short tasks where you don't want a hose and need a couple hours of air (like raiding stations)

Should be noted too that "switching bottles" would mean holding your breath through the process if you didn't have something to hook up to while you did it. Could add another risk of inventory management as your sight would blur as you hold your breath too long (these are heavy as well)

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I've worked pretty extensively with both systems and keep my Confined Space and SCBA/SABA certifications up to date so will answer questions anyone has

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Some other styles

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The lower back position I was talking about

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If you made it this far thanks. I'm a nerd. Safety is key in my industry so we have to know quite a bit and I'm not just a worker anymore so I'm expected to have deeper knowledge of stuff.

royal marlin
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Show air supply bottles and hoses, not just gas masks

wary pecan
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it's an interesting take on what i had in my mind for some time after playing. Theres a status effect bar in the main character with little use, drugs doing barely more than countering the reduced maximum health, lets be honest the health system is pretty simple currently, oxygen deprivation damage /low oxygen status effect should be a thing instead of just being "the fixed raid timer", swapping masks or refilling could make it more inmmersive, hardcore and unique. Even more considering the game takes place in low oxygen enviroments, piloting and moving from different atmospheres (ship on space-stations/mines, derelict ships/other player ships) all the time.

royal marlin
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Yeah I've spent a lot of time in the one the firefighter wears in the picture, and you really become aware of your survival being on this one peice of gear. Definitely don't worry about food or water.

Was thinking could also use synthetic scrap (duct tape) to fix holes in your suit after a firefight and reduce timers there...could make that raid timer mean a lot more.

royal marlin
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Air Supply changesraid timer suggestions

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Air Supply changes & raid timer suggestions