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dark stream
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but battle-master could obviously work, if he's the more technical sort
rather than boldly charging into the fray

shy wigeon
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Yeah I like battlemaster since it fits the mercenary veteran. Eldritch would only benefit more spellslots, since I’ll only end up with 2 warlock ones

pearl storm
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Is he? He could be all though I think what strikes me is that he is supposed to be cunning and thinks of words like blades, like a tool to defeat your enemy and so on

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So he isn't a full on brute

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So I can see Battlemaster

shy wigeon
pearl storm
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Eldritch could be pretty fun though cause of rp and the fact that there is a wizard in pur party too

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That being me

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And since Fighters get their subclass at lvl 3 it could mean that Jo Zhiva learned from tge Wizard Jo-Rah

shy wigeon
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Like he’d definitely do a snake eyes type thing where he does a sneaky attack with the tailspwar while the enemy is focused on the big sword on his hand

pearl storm
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So he could become an apprentice to Jo-Rah and that could be a fun thing in the party for rp but also explaining why and how he learned magic just now

shy wigeon
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That’s a cool way to look at it

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Maybe you can summon me up a patron 👀

pearl storm
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Hmmmmm

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Would it fit?

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That's the question

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I remember him being kind of a follower of Bahamut

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The Dragon God father

shy wigeon
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Oh that’s true

shy wigeon
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So if he sees those traits in a potential patron I don’t see why he wouldn’t turn it down

plush thicket
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if you wanted a pact with Bahamut then it'd more likely be a celestial patron

dark stream
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nevermind that's ranger, I was thinking of "drakewarden"

pearl storm
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Depends what you will go for now

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We will see what'll fit you

plush thicket
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what type of warlock you are is more determined by what entity you make a pact with

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if trav wants a pact with Bahamut then he's a celestial warlock because Bahamut is a god

pearl storm
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Yee I know

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Didn't say anything against itShruge

pearl storm
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Be fighter pure, subclass or multiclass or what

shy wigeon
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And that way I’m not just copying one of my past characters builds

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Cause I was thinking hexblade since I think it pairs well with fighter, but celestial warlock sounds fun

plush thicket
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it's basically the healer warlock

shy wigeon
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Ooh battle healer

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Sounds useful for our party too since aizo isn’t mainly playing a healer

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Fits the brass dragon vibe too

plush thicket
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it's not like pure healer or anything, you just get a healing ability XD

pearl storm
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How much in it though?

shy wigeon
plush thicket
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little top off every now and again

pearl storm
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How muvh Fighter lvls and how much Warlock?

plush thicket
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true KEKW

shy wigeon
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So 3/9 or 4/8 can’t remember exactly which

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I would have to look at the skill and upgrade opportunities for the celestial warlock but I think Jivah build would call for a bit more of fighter

dark stream
pearl storm
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Fake Sangromancy dice

dark stream
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but also, not all parties has to have a healer

pearl storm
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But our party is also already fulk of ranged attackerspotastLOL

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We got 4 people already who want to be on range

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You and Bean's are our only melee fighters currently

shy wigeon
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Yeah so I would be putting more into fighter, and then the healing will be enough to cover beans

shy wigeon
pearl storm
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Rhea is all about debilitating the enemies with psychic shit

dark stream
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Rhea is a horror show, turned into a character

pearl storm
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Get Blood missiles thrown at you

dark stream
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sounds like a spell trying to target me

pearl storm
dark stream
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no, but my witch hunter feat might

dark stream
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since she used to be a literal witch hunter(inquisitor)

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though I've reflavoured it so it's more like peepos around her is influenced by her unnerving presence
so focusing on her is difficult

pearl storm
# dark stream

"This does not protect you from area effects like fireball"

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Get fucked by Circle of Scarlet

dark stream
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counterspell

pearl storm
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Circle of Scarlet got 110 feet range

dark stream
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meta magic: doubles range of spell

pearl storm
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Imma just push you away with telekinetic

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Not like you got a good strenght stat in order to resist itKEKW

dark stream
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dies

plush thicket
pearl storm
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Fuck why are the photos so blurry!potastAngry

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I WANNA LOOK CLOSER AT COOL MINI

plush thicket
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cause my lighting is shit

subtle imp
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nice Worg rider Cannon

plush thicket
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tis a Chaos Lord on Karkadrak

subtle imp
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oops, Warhammer not DnD my bad

plush thicket
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yes, how dare you not know the difference on sight

subtle imp
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I'm more into DnD than Warhammer that's how I Dare potastLOL

plush thicket
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tbf rn I am into D&D more then Warhammer

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I just have a lot of minis lying around from WH

subtle imp
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My Latest Tiefling Paladin

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Her Moto: "Speak Sexily and swing a Big ass Sword"

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I'm kidding

potent crypt
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raised by a single dad and 3 older brothers shes a boyish girl who wishes to become more womanly and get a husband and so she reminds herself to speak more seductively potastLOL

pearl storm
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Imagine making woman in Heroforge

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Real men make 7 feet tall Lizards in Heroforge

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Oh forgot to share some stuff I wanted to share

subtle imp
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I don't know what her Moto actually is guys

pearl storm
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Say an Eldritch Knight only has access to Abjuration and Evocation spells in his main spell list right?

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Ik Grim Hollow they could learn all the spells of these two schools of magic too right?

pearl storm
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I looked through it I just learned that Eldritch Knights never get 4th lvl spell slots

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Sad

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Cause in theory they could have cast Circle of Scarlet in Grim Hollow setting thenKEKW

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Would have been cool

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But still

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There are some cool and pretty useful evocation and abjuration spells from Grim Hollow

pearl storm
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List of Grim Hollow spells of the school of Abjuration and Evocation that a Eldritch Knight could learn:

Cantrips: Holy Word

1st lvl spells: Neutralise Aura, Ghost Light, Consumption

2nd lvl spells: Sanguine Shield

3rd lvl spells: Reanimate, Mirror Spell

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Ghost Light is decent as an utility spell for the party in dark areas

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Sanguine Shield is for a fighter who hasn't got access to Theft of Vitae pretty decent too

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1 minute of 15 temporary hp most of the times and you are under half cover

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Reanimate and Mirror Spell though are certainly the best you'd get

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Reanimate is a revivify but by Blood Magic and is pretty good

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So a fighter having access to it and being able to save a party member who is also a melee fighter and therefore probably closer to his fellow fighter then the wizard

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And since Fighters got high Hit Dice the spell is also pretty effective with the additional temporary hp effect it has

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Mirror Spell though is what I'd say would be the most fun for an Eldritch Knight to use when he has spell casting teammates

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Cause the spell allows you to copy spells of 1st and 2nd lvl with guarantee and makes you the caster of the copied spell

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And spells above that need an spell check roll

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It's also a reaction spell and can used on enemies of course too

plush thicket
pearl storm
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A certified

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God I marvel your patience

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My OCD would make me go nuts trying this out seriously

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One little fuck up of paint and I would go hawkwil

hollow plume
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naw just

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play Thousand sons

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spray paint them all gray

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drybrush with flecks of blue

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congrats you have ghost marines without the need for detail

plush thicket
hollow plume
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Got it, ultramarine heroes it is

plush thicket
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my two current dreams for armies (which I'll never do) are

  1. all cavalry, Khorne Chaos army (AoS)
  2. all biker Genestealer Cults
hollow plume
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I miss when all infantry chaos legions was viable

plush thicket
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oh they still are

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I just really like cavalry

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my csm list is/was an infantry swarm

pearl storm
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csm? CHAINSAW MAN?!

plush thicket
# plush thicket my csm list is/was an infantry swarm

iirc it was
a chaos lord
a sorcerer
daemon prince
master of executions
x2 10 man csm with melee
x3 10 man csm with shooting
10 khorne berzerkers in a rhino
x2 havocs (one unit with lascannons, one unit with chaincannons)

pearl storm
hollow plume
# plush thicket iirc it was a chaos lord a sorcerer daemon prince master of executions x2 10 man...

My 8th edition roster was about uhh
3 Chaos Lords (daemon pistol, power sword)
a sorceror in terminator
a master of possesion
a dark apostle
6 obliterators
10 chainfist terminators
3 units of 5 raptors with two meltas
4 units of 5 havocs of each weapon and a squad of 10 lascannons
10x chosen with plasma and chainswords
5x chosen with combi bolter and power axe
Stuff accordingly with normal legionaires and 10x cultists as chaff

with some mix and matching I was doing well against everything but damn necrons and drukhari

plush thicket
hollow plume
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i pity the poor guardsmen looking at those khorne bezerkers

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I deliberately took a chaos lord with a relic just to single out a chapter master and go "right havocs, vaporize him"

plush thicket
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pity everything tbh
on the charge it was like 50 attacks at str 8 ap -3

pearl storm
plush thicket
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they killed everything they got into contact with

pearl storm
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Unexpected that Fireball falls under those two categories

hollow plume
shy wigeon
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Cannon in theory let’s say I wanted to use a chainsaw

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This would count as a 2 handed great weapon?

plush thicket
plush thicket
shy wigeon
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More hit die?

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In a scenario where I would do this I assume some mechanic like a spell slot would be used for putting gas in it

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So it can’t be abused

plush thicket
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no idea

pearl storm
shy wigeon
hollow plume
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Funny you mentioned, I did homebrew a chain sword a while ago

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Teethripper
3kg, 3d4 (Versatile, 3d6) Slashing, 50gp
A teethripper is a sacred weapon of the Sahuagin, ritually carved from a still living sawshark in service to their god Sekolah. The blade writhes and vibrates when close to enemies, hungering to feed off the blood spilled from every strike.

When you are holding this weapon, you gain temporary hit points equal to your current level when rolling initiative. When you have successfully hit with this weapon, you may expend a bonus action to have the blade bite into the creature. The creature takes d8 piercing damage and must make a Con Save with a DC of 13 or become Stunned until the end of your next turn as the blade wracks them with agony. Doing so reduces your movement speed to 0 until the start of your next turn.

shy wigeon
pearl storm
pearl storm
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Power and blood you say?laynaSmug

plush thicket
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fyi you aren't getting a chainsaw

shy wigeon
hollow plume
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Just buy a garden saw

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Wrap chains around it

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There you go

shy wigeon
shy wigeon
plush thicket
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also no

shy wigeon
pearl storm
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If my damn phone would let me send gifs I would have send a thousand already in this topicpotastLOL

pearl storm
shy wigeon
pearl storm
shy wigeon
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Also Side note I’m surprised that Dragonborn don’t get a bite attack

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But I guess j could just say I bite em and it scales with unarmed attack

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If I were to do something like that it would be a tavern brawler build though

plush thicket
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no

pearl storm
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Dragonborn seemingly aren't too scaly enough to get a bite attack

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Unlike the Chad Lizardfolk

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God I hate that name

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Lizardfolk

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The most uncreative name and also annoying to use

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How dp you desvribe multiple of Lizardfolk?

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Lizardfolks?

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I'm a Lizardfolk

plush thicket
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Lizardfolk is both plural and singular

pearl storm
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All sounds so ugh

plush thicket
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A lizardfolk and those lizardfolk

pearl storm
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Argonians for the win

plush thicket
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no that's copyrighted

pearl storm
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I knowKEKW

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Damn it

subtle imp
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this isn't Elder scrolls

pearl storm
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I don't know man I love any Lizard like look like the Serpentine Yuan-Ti, Argonians from ES

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Dragonborn though feel kinda off

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Like they are cool

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Butt

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Their whole name already hints at something

burnt storm
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How about Sfaeronians?

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Instead of Argonians?

pearl storm
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Dragonborn are lesser Dragons

plush thicket
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also the Sahuagin

plush thicket
pearl storm
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So I feel like standing in the shadow of the mythical cool Dragons

pearl storm
burnt storm
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Actually, based on the family, Lizards would probably be known as the Squamatians

pearl storm
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One of them I heard was that there were created by Dragons to be slave's

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Another is that....

burnt storm
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Squamat = scaled

pearl storm
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A Wizard did it

subtle imp
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They should be called Squamata the rl Scientific order of lizardfolk

pearl storm
burnt storm
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I'm probably going to be late.

pearl storm
subtle imp
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Sa hu agin are fish folk Jo-Rah

pearl storm
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But yea while most other animal inspired races are greater versions of the being they represent like humaoid Cats instead of normal Cats, big and intelligent Lizards instead of normal Lizards and so on like with Tortle and all other furry races

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Dragonborn are a lesser version of a being

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So that's something that to me makes them fundamentally different from most other furry races

pearl storm
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That's one ugly boi

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I wanna kill onestabb

subtle imp
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or the Kuo Toa like this guy

pearl storm
subtle imp
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Evening Aiz0

dark stream
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just wait until you have to fight them under water
suddenly it won't be fun anymore

subtle imp
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wait, it's early morning my bad

pearl storm
dark stream
pearl storm
dark stream
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dnd's playable fish-man race

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I like this one, but it's downside makes it difficult, unless you play in a water-heavy campaign

pearl storm
subtle imp
dark stream
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the grung is basically a frog-man race, but like, poisonous frogs

pearl storm
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But the water thing is a hammer

pearl storm
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There was a good build around that race

dark stream
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they automatically poison anyone touching their skin, and can apply poison to ranged weapons automatically

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if you then combine that with grim hollow's "green reaper" ranger
for maximum poison

pearl storm
subtle imp
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you become a deadly Poisonist

pearl storm
plush thicket
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shame poison is the most resisted and immunity based elemental damage in the game

dark stream
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yeah

subtle imp
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Hold up Aizo maam, why are we giving Cannon and Justin ideas as ways to killus??

dark stream
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but the whole "water dependency" though

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having to be submerged for at least an hour every single day, or get exhaustion levels

pearl storm
dark stream
pearl storm
pearl storm
dark stream
pearl storm
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Well my Sangromancer deals necrotic damage with everyone and now I'm stuck with Undead

dark stream
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it's not like your character was born in the wrong world

pearl storm
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Hoping that Cannon doesn't go full undead for the whole campaign

dark stream
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you've still lived in that world prior to the campaign, and are playing something
that evolved/adapted to that world- ish

pearl storm
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Would suck for Rhea and Jo-RahpotastLOL

dark stream
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Rhea doesn't care what she's against

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also, not all undead are necrotic resistant

subtle imp
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M31 doesn't either correct??

pearl storm
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Lucky that Cannon forgot about it himself and let you change your action

dark stream
# subtle imp M31 doesn't either correct??

true, but in a different sense than Rhea- M31 isn't a "fighter"
but rather an inventor, with a magical suit of armour that she only still have
because those who stole her prototypes couldn't get it off her

pearl storm
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That would get annoying quickly

dark stream
pearl storm
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Isn't it so Cannon?laynaSquint

dark stream
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I mean, we know we're playing grim hollow- so enemies would likely be undead, vampires, and "maybe" hoomans

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but again, most undead fodder doesn't have necrotic resistance

pearl storm
dark stream
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Rhea's only way to do damage, is psychic- beyond punching something or hitting it with her staff

pearl storm
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Beasts and abberations would fit well

dark stream
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and like, she's not going to use melee, unless the situation is extremely dire

dark stream
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-3

pearl storm
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She hurts herself while swinging her staff

dark stream
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minimum damage from a hit is 1, but with a negative 3 to hit

pearl storm
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When she rolls a 1 she actually heals the enemy cause she puts back their spine in the right place

pearl storm
dark stream
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I also like the implications of Rhea being supposed to gradually become more and more insane
and lose track of what's real and what isn't, as part of being a Venin follower

pearl storm
dark stream
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Rhea is technically hunted by the inquisition, though there's a slim chance
they don't know who to look for

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I'll just hide behind Jo-Rah if we ever meet them; "look dear sirs, I found a sangromancer for you! I'm just an innocent bystander" slinks away

plush thicket
pearl storm
pearl storm
dark stream
dark stream
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you're doing magic in the presence of inquisitors?

pearl storm
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Nuh uh

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It's undetactable

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It would seems more like Rhea just got pushed back by the wind

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Cause she so smoll and weak

dark stream
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hardly

"oh help me, inquisitors! this mad mage is trying to take me hostage!"
as they can see me being pulled by an invisible force

pearl storm
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Sure buddy

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I call out your name and also being a magic user

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And you ain't getting out eitherKEKW

dark stream
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making an actual inquisitor cleric sometime could also be fun, but like
I think they might be a little overpowered

pearl storm
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The Arcana Inquisition would straight up kill us both

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I read the lore

dark stream
pearl storm
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They don't give a fuvk

dark stream
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yup, they're.. scary

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and Rhea is(was) part of them

pearl storm
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These guys are ruthless and will kill mothers and fathers infront of their children

dark stream
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could be fun to make an inquisition campaign sometime
where the whole party is part of that group, and you're hunting evil mages

pearl storm
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In the book the example of one of their raids was them raiding a family house and killing the mum and capturing the daughter and basically brainwashing her to be a part of the Inquisition

hollow plume
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<@&1415565266556813373> we still going for <t:1763236821:F>

agile coyote
hollow plume
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D:

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aite, msg has been edited

dark stream
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imagine making other plans when it's dnd time

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life revovles around dnd, obviously

pearl storm
pearl storm
dark stream
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but the daughter was "rescued" by a mysterious peepo

pearl storm
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You little memorizing gremlin

dark stream
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I considered literally making that Rhea's backstory

pearl storm
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Great its canon now for me

dark stream
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and having the figure be either an avatar of Venin, or one of Venin's subjects

potent crypt
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@craggy pelican @agile coyote @burnt storm

hollow plume
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@burnt storm @craggy pelican @potent crypt point

potent crypt
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@craggy pelican @burnt storm

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@burnt storm

hollow plume
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@burnt storm

hollow plume
hollow plume
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SUMMARY: There was a smuggling ring with weapons and warforged that was being operated by smoke people throughout Kavinor, you've traced the route to Maltor. So far, the biggest suspects are the local mafia. You've used this anti-magic blood to track the movements of the smuggling ring by talking to the leader of the mafia, Aegon, and getting some cover to spy on his brother, Ervin, who is in charge of making weapons and distributing things throughout Maltor. You were promised time and resources at an upcoming ball to dig into Ervin's dealings but you've pre-emptively gone ahead and crashed the bunker where all the operations were being conducted.

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@agile coyote

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Ervin's here under the guise of "why are you intruding on my turf" but he's also wanting to pry into how much you know.

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Intaglio

plush thicket
subtle imp
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noice Cannon

hollow plume
crisp jackal
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With the arrows the full res map is scribbled on a parchment in possesion of elara

subtle imp
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Majora, you are being more of a nuisance than a help. Please just listen or don't join sorry

potent crypt
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is ok potastPet potastAyaya

hollow plume
crisp jackal
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Weavers tools (Maybe haggle down to 8sp)
2 daggers (try to haggle to 16sp each)

pearl storm
plush thicket
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just a dood I make

pearl storm
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I approve

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Skin markingns hmmm

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Remind me of the Lune tattoo's

potent crypt
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so atm my furr is probably burned off a little on my neck but will my fur cover the mark when it grows back?

dark stream
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if we go realistically, scar tissue won't grow hair

potent crypt
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true but the fur will still grow around it

hollow plume
subtle imp
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You guys were busy, sorry if I overstepped

hollow plume
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all good, i wasn't too focused on chat as I was DMing things

subtle imp
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I

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I could have worded it better but yeah

potent crypt
plush thicket
hollow plume
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<@&1415565266556813373> there's no D&D next week because of work. The 29th will be a huge maybe for us, but that is next week's problem.

Regarding December, the first two Saturdays are the 6th and 13th. Those are probably when we have D&D and then I go home for the holidays. Stay tuned for updates and do lemme know if anything happens

pearl storm
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I will say I was a bit hyperactive yesterday toopotastLOL

pearl storm
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Tried remaking the Grim Hollow Sangromancer from the players guide book

pearl storm
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@dark stream made M31

plush thicket
dark stream
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even in her suit, she still looks more feminine than heroforge can do robots

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if this is her regular form, her armoured form is similar but bigger and bulkier- but still feminine

pearl storm
plush thicket
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huh

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no

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playing

pearl storm
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I can't make this cause it's fully contradictal

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Aizo how should M31 look? Sci Fi or just this normal medieval fantasy?

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Medieval fantasy but that face with glowing eyes?

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Cause I'm trying to go sci fi but get annoyed how the pic is literally just medieval fantasy look

pearl storm
pearl storm
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@dark stream I made M31 and now you can't tell me it doesn't look feminine

pearl storm
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Liking it?

pearl storm
pearl storm
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And you sent me this as a reference pick

dark stream
pearl storm
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I made her slimmer on purpose to make her look feminine

pearl storm
dark stream
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her model in heroforge should be her armoured form

dark stream
pearl storm
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AIZO I WILL ^$&$&$&$&$&×_:

dark stream
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I literally did

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you saw the previous heroforge model I sent you

pearl storm
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You called it shitty

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And you didn't like it much from what you said

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And it looks bulky and not like what you send in that ai image

dark stream
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then sent you the other picture that I told you was her "regular" form
and that her "armoured form" needed to be bigger and bulkier but still feminine"

pearl storm
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Ok fuck off Imma just take the model I made and give her all the things I took to make her more feminine

dark stream
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now you know why I didn't make her a heroforge model

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what you made is "okay'ish" for her unarmoured form
but the model needs to be the guardian form, which bigger and bulkier

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and heroforge simply doesn't do female robots

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also in terms of appearance- imagine junk being put together around a magic source, to create a "suit" which is then polished/cleaned

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the world isn't "high tech" per se, as I've understood

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but there is magical technology, which is also what warforged are made of

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and what artificers work with

pearl storm
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Fuck you Aizo I made it happen

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@dark stream

potent crypt
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Idk what warforged are suposed to look like but looking at it i wouldn't think warforged

potent crypt
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I'v seen it alot

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The hero forge looked like a dude in full armor and a mask

pearl storm
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You little shitling ITS THE EXACT SAME AS THE PIC SHE SEND

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HER AI IMAGE IS LITERALLY A GIRL IN FANTASY ARMOR

potent crypt
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Indeed

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Is Just to help the imagination potastSip

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Her face is more like a screen or visor that shows emotes ^^

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Thats how i imagine her like defalt face being Just

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^^

dark stream
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yup ! her armoured forms have a visor for a face

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both guardian and infiltrator

potent crypt
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Imagine her smaller form as a like slimmer female ultron

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Shes a machine afterall

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Oh and i think i imagine her bigger form as almost like a small transformer

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Hmm maybe more like optimus

dark stream
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but feminine

potent crypt
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I also imagine this cuz u use it alot potastLOL

dark stream
dark stream
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but it's close to what I imagine

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ish

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M31 trying to be stealthy

potent crypt
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Did u have the elven boots and other things ready for use?

dark stream
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the elven things need attunement

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and I can create stuff during rests

pearl storm
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@dark stream LOOK AT THIS NOW

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VAL YPU TOO

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IS THIS WARFORGED ENOUGH?!

pearl storm
dark stream
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closer, but colours need to be more monotone
and look more like an "armoured suit"

potent crypt
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she has potastLOL

dark stream
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also not bulky enough, nor does it look feminine

potent crypt
dark stream
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welcome to asian mindset- I cannot settle for "okay"
it needs to match my mind "perfectly"

potent crypt
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i think hero forge simply doesn't have the capability to create a good M31

dark stream
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and heroforge simply doesn't do it

dark stream
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that said

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I quite like that everyone can "mind theater" their own visual of her

potent crypt
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imagination is part of the fun potastAyaya

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i wonder if i could create a dullahan char potastHmm

potent crypt
dark stream
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samus' suit is probably the closest representation I can think of

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her actual suit being close to how I imagine the "infiltrator form" though with smaller shoulders

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and her "guardian form" being a bulkier version of samus' suit

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ish

potent crypt
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if i was allowed to make a dullahan char i wonder how HP would work

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probably would just be shared HP

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but would be an interesting idea to have a familiar fly my head up so i could actualy see and hear things around

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and was wondering what if my head or body alone was attacked

pearl storm
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HERE

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AGAIN

dark stream
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could probably make a sort of character who in their backstory had been cursed, and separated from their "head"
and now are in search for a way to break the curse, and find their head again

potent crypt
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a little better on the head potastPet

dark stream
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yeah that's also the best head I found for heroforge

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but the body is still masculine

potent crypt
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that sounds interesting

dark stream
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yeah, maybe hide that fact under a helmet or something

pearl storm
potent crypt
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does dnd have telepathy?

potent crypt
dark stream
potent crypt
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great i'll add that feet to the char

dark stream
potent crypt
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i'm making it tomorrow

dark stream
potent crypt
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i can make it my paladin of devotion

dark stream
potent crypt
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allways wearing armor unwilling to take off my helment and only speaking through telepathy

dark stream
potent crypt
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excited to make him

pearl storm
pearl storm
plush thicket
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she knows waht she wants, she just doesn't want what heroforge can do

pearl storm
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If you tell me that is more feminine then what I do then I don't get it

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I gave her a fucking One Piece body just to appease hour femine urgelaynaPout

pearl storm
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I just found out about Naga

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Are they common race to see in DnD campaigns?

plush thicket
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no

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there was one in tomb of annihilation but that's about it

pearl storm
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I like the Naga cause they lean much more into the snake theme then Yuan-Ti

plush thicket
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yuan-ti I guess?

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this is a naga

pearl storm
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Yuan-Ti aren't in Grim Hollow which is the sole reason I ended up going Sangromancer Lizardfolk instead of Yuan-Ti Bladesinger

pearl storm
plush thicket
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no

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that's just a naga

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this is a Yuan-ti

pearl storm
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This seems more like what was described in the race guide on DnD wikidot

plush thicket
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that's from Mtg

pearl storm
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But Naga got arms it says here in the wikiShruge

plush thicket
plush thicket
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giant snakes with heads that resemble humans

subtle imp
pearl storm
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This what I looked at

pearl storm
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They kinda lack some arms to interact with 90% of DnD stuffpotastLOL

plush thicket
plush thicket
pearl storm
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I imagined so

pearl storm
plush thicket
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not in the forgotten realms anyway

pearl storm
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I liked the abilities and features of this playable Naga

subtle imp
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not even sure they were in Greyhawk

pearl storm
plush thicket
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The forgotten realms is the current main D&D setting

pearl storm
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I see

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Well

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Then again

subtle imp
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Disappointed, shall you remain

pearl storm
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Guess Yuan-Ti will have to do incase I wanna play a Sneke race in the future

plush thicket
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Gith are still cooler

pearl storm
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Gith? Those ugly guys right?

subtle imp
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Zarai or Yanki

pearl storm
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That got no nose

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One of the characters from BG3 was a Gith

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And they had a big story there if I remember right

subtle imp
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La'zel is gith yes

pearl storm
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Yee

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Before I knew whay Gith's were I thought she was just a kind of butched up Orc

subtle imp
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Githyankii to be exact

pearl storm
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Ah yea they are split

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One in slave pro

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And other in slave con

subtle imp
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pandayee 👍

pearl storm
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And they Giths were slaves to the Mindflayers if I remember right

plush thicket
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Githzerai are better

subtle imp
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I agree Cannon

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Githyanki are just out for blood

dark stream
pearl storm
dark stream
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it's just a mtg monster turned into a dnd monster

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emrakul best eldrazi

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since you talked races, I looked for eldrazi in dnd, and found the titans turned into dnd bosses

subtle imp
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Aizou is Eldrazi (J/K) Aizou

dark stream
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eldrazi is some of my favourite mtg entities

subtle imp
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I had a ColdSnap deck

dark stream
plush thicket
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I do want to play my Githzerai Monk I made at some point

dark stream
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githzerai are cool

plush thicket
dark stream
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and for any class you add it to

subtle imp
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Giving the "Near Immortal" ideas still Cannon??

plush thicket
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monk with a cast of shield KEKW

plush thicket
dark stream
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what's that grim hollow monk again

subtle imp
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IF Cannon IF

dark stream
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leaden crown

plush thicket
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way of pride is the one I remember

dark stream
plush thicket
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with the dodge as a bonus action for enemy disadvantage on attacking them

dark stream
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the leaden crown monk is the closest we get to a "psychic" monk

plush thicket
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would be very themeatic

subtle imp
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to be honest, I've never played in the Grim Hollow setting

plush thicket
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doesn't seem too strong in terms of abilities tbh

plush thicket
dark stream
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none of the monk subclasses really are- most monks rely on the infamous "stunning strike"

plush thicket
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I always wanted to be a sun soul monk so I can just be Ryu spamming the hadukan

dark stream
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as far as I've heard, the mercy monk is considered the "strongest" purely out of how they actually scale with levels
and focus on one thing, instead of multiple

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leaden crown monks can also do ranged unarmed strikes doing force damage
and spend ki to cast "hold person"

pearl storm
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Ugh

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I looked up backgrounds

dark stream
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and after lv6, they can push and pull enemies when hitting them

pearl storm
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why is the Outlander background so ass

dark stream
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for me, I know I made a mercy monk, but I think a way of pride monk would be fun

plush thicket
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cause it's in the phb so power creep hadn't set in yet

pearl storm
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Ruined is nothing but a fucking free feat

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One of them being tough

dark stream
pearl storm
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Which is amazing for all characters

dark stream
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a ruined wizard might not even start with a spellbook

plush thicket
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yeah but is meant to have drawbacks for background tho

dark stream
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I fully expect cannon to have like, groups of previous amazonian allies "hunt" val'kira

pearl storm
dark stream
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though of course it's up to him

pearl storm
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The fuck am I supposed to do with that?

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It's also nature and wilds based so no luck in dungeons

plush thicket
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never have to pay for food

dark stream
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if your party cannot provide food and water, you all suffer exhaustion

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it's one of the benefits of having a ranger in the party

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since they're good at that

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Rhea is the same

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we're in a dungeon right now, but the inquisition is actively hunting her

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wait nevermind

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I didn't give her Ruined

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she has the lapsed inquisitor

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forget I said anything

subtle imp
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and M31 is on or getting on a boat and possibly being "hunted"

plush thicket
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but they probably still are hunting her XD

dark stream
dark stream
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her backstory she killed one of them

plush thicket
dark stream
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and the only reason she even has the suit, is because it magically cannot be removed

pearl storm
dark stream
pearl storm
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One extra feat is ridoncolous

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But while at it I looked at 2024 backgrounds

dark stream
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as I mentioned during the stream- in 2024 they've made all backgrounds come with a set of feat choices
but they've changed how feats can be taken, by putting them into tier levels

pearl storm
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Yea 90% have an feat attached to them

dark stream
pearl storm
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But they are also heavily reduced to like 10 or 12 backgrounds

plush thicket
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you can say it's worse, don't worry, we know

plush thicket
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more just got added over time

pearl storm
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Qnd 5.5 didn't just take them with them?

dark stream
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about the sole thing I "like" about 2024, is that "alert" and "heavy armour master" scale with player's proficiency bonus
instead of being a static amount

subtle imp
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Every edition of DnD has had different changes made to it

plush thicket
pearl storm
plush thicket
dark stream
subtle imp
dark stream
pearl storm
dark stream
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but +2, or soon to be +3 is still really good

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and will end up better than the current

pearl storm
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Take a little bit of this and that and you got all the good things and none of the things you don't like from the new edition

subtle imp
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most of the stuff is just Guide Lines anyway

plush thicket
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dunno if I will just because most of the games don't go to the higher levels anyway

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so it'd basically just be nerfing them

dark stream
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yeah around 12 ish, is the typical "High level" of a normal campaign

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because higher can get ridiculous

subtle imp
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is that due to time constraints

plush thicket
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well beyond 12th lv, players get rediculous and the enemies that can actually challenge them drastically narrow in variety

pearl storm
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I heard a good bunch of enemies got better upscaled in 5.5 since 5e had that problem

plush thicket
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like high level enemies are basically just Liches, Ancient Dragons, Archdemons/devils and the Tarrasque

pearl storm
dark stream
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but again, nobody goes that high

plush thicket
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well prestige was a 3rd ed mechanic

dark stream
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I think elminster was like, level 37 or something?

pearl storm
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On that topic of homebrewing stuff in I will say that if I get a campaign rolling I would defenitly take in weapon masteries and use some homebrew creatures from big DnD creators where I know the stuff is well done

plush thicket
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something like that

pearl storm
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Weapon masteries are so awesome for melee fighterslaynaAcTuALLy

dark stream
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because they're stolen from the battlemaster's arsenal, of course other melee likes getting them

plush thicket
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Pathfinder 2e is still better

pearl storm
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Battlemasters can perform even better with normal weapon masteries and then their maneuvers

dark stream
subtle imp
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Actually Jo-Rah, Aizo is correct, they are stolen from 3e's Battle master and given to everyone

plush thicket
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but 2nd ed is it's own thing and it's really good

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for example: COMBAT

dark stream
plush thicket
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on your turn you get 3 actions

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everything takes an action

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so you could move, move, move with your turn

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or you could attack, attack, attack

dark stream
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sounds like divinity rules

plush thicket
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it's so much more involved

dark stream
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you have a "resource" to spend, and moving costs it, so does attacking or spells

plush thicket
#

yee

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then you unlock special moves through your class and race and they can take 2 or 3 actions to do

dark stream
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yup

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literally divinity

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can do more smol things, or few bigger things

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could be fun

plush thicket
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my character was a dampire investigator

dark stream
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that one you mentioned that was weak to the sun, was that this one?
or was it from that other game "the masquerade"

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I know the full vampire one is very rp heavy and such

plush thicket
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that was masquerade

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a dampire is a half-vampire

pearl storm
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Dampire are the vampires that you have at home

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Cause actually playing a vampire isn't so easly possible without your DM leaning into youlaynaHehheh

plush thicket
pearl storm
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But the question is

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Does Pathfinder have

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LORE

subtle imp
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Dhampir can mess you up

plush thicket
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yes, arguably more then D&D does

subtle imp
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Kitsune Hunter

plush thicket
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I think I was half elf, half vampire

pearl storm
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Well too late you introduced me to DnD first

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Now I'm a DnD bitch

plush thicket
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I also made a halfling Rogue that rode a giant dog

pearl storm
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Pathfinder was really hard though to set up as an beginner right?

plush thicket
#

it's more complicated then dnd

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100%

pearl storm
#

It's more complex then Dn

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Yup

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You said it while J was typing

dark stream
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the first system I played was "gurps" I think

pearl storm
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The fuck is that

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Sounds like a burp gone wrong

plush thicket
#

Generic Universal Role Playing System

subtle imp
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genaric Role playing

dark stream
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weird inferior system that whoever the dm was, liked, so that's what we played

plush thicket
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basically lets you use any setting

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just plug the rules in and play

dark stream
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that's the system where I played the "Gorm" musclehead character that was magic resistant

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had 4 intelligence(I think), and 27 strength(I think) and had minor magic resistance from background

pearl storm
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Oh do you guys know about that Yokai Realm 3rd party setting?

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Looked very cool whenever I saw it on sponsors

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Very weeb and Asian in its theme

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And it doesn't hide it at all

plush thicket
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I also made a character for one of the superhero rpgs that was a speedster

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he could run over 3 million mph

dark stream
#

tabaxi monk in dnd

dark stream
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lv18+ monk for 60ms, add mobile for +10(70), add boon of speed for +30(100)
now ki bonus action dash doubling speed(200), normal action dash doubling it again(400)
and finally be hasted doubling it a final time, for a total of 800ms

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I forget what tabaxis do, but I know they also add speed

plush thicket
#

dash doesn't double your movement, it just lets you move an additional time

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so it's 600ft in 6 seconds

dark stream
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ah you're right, it just adds your current speed again after multipliers

plush thicket
#

yee

pearl storm
#

You ain't ever getting to lvl 18potastLOL

dark stream
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and tabaxi let's you for free double your movement once between rests

dark stream
pearl storm
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I plan my characters now for like max lvl 12

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Cause as most here said and I also see online

dark stream
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I always make my characters for lv20, and then reduce them to fit level

pearl storm
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Getting past 13 or 14 is rare

subtle imp
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Honestly these days getting past level 10 is rare, but not unheard of

dark stream
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but haste doubles movement

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so 100 movement from the monk+feats
then haste to get 200, and tabaxi feat to get 400
then bonus dash, and then action dash

subtle imp
#

Counterspell!

subtle imp
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and actually Fireball sucks

dark stream
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nevermind tabaxi can only double their movement when they move, not in preparation

pearl storm
#

I asked some peeos

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So

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Weapon masteries apply to your off hand weapon too

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SO COOL

subtle imp
#

Fireball is so cliche it literally sucks ass

pearl storm
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Dual handed fighters getting so cool

dark stream
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so it'd be 100ms base, then haste to have 200, then move(trigger tabaxi trait) for 400ms
then keeping that- bonus dash, action dash

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I solved it

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1200 total ms in a turn

pearl storm
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That also means that a Rouge with 2 daggers can dash out 4 attacks

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2 per action and bonus action

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Although only the first attack will also have modifiers applied to it

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Is it apparent that I like the concept of weapon masteries for melee classes?laynaSmug

dark stream
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not sure how 2024 works, but regardless of weapons you're holding, an attack takes a full action
and only uses one weapon

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to use the offhand, takes the bonus action

pearl storm
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Daggers have the weapon mastery of letting you do an additional attack with them

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No bonus action or anything

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So that's why what I said about the 4 attacks a turn works fully

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Main action a mastery attack and offhand bonus action mastery attack

dark stream
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ah

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no

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it just gives you the "extra attack" trait, when using daggers

pearl storm
dark stream
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so basically just gives rogues a way to get "extra attack" that they don't normally get

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to be specific, where I think you mistook something is the "when taking the attack action"

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using your bonus action to attack with your offhand is not "taking the attack action"

pearl storm
dark stream
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so you still only get two "main hand attacks" but your "bonus action" is free- instead of normally having to use it to make the extra attack

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though you can choose to still use it to make that 3rd attack with your off-hand

pearl storm
#

Anyways look at them Aizo

dark stream
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nevermind, you can't even make the 3rd attack

pearl storm
dark stream
#

the trait makes you unable to bonus action attack

pearl storm
dark stream
#

you can do these things in normal dnd anyway, simply tell your dm you want to "sweep" the enemy off their feet with your weapon

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you just won't get added bonuses to them, unless battlemaster

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my issue with the 2024 having taken battlemaster's maneuvers, is that you now do get these added bonuses

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and the only benefit a battlemaster gets, is that the attack is stronger- as long as they have superiority dice

pearl storm
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It literally is a benefit to the classpotastLOL

dark stream
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this is the thing you meant with daggers, I think? it's pretty much only good for rogues nod
since they're the only melee class that don't normally get "extra attack"

pearl storm
dark stream
pearl storm
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Also fuck Battle Master if that one subclass must die for that cool feature then I'm fine with itKEKW

pearl storm
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Battle Masters can do their maneuvers with ANY weapon

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Where as weapon masteries are tied to the weapon and class

dark stream
#

Val'kira's main maneuvers are "Parry" and "Riposte"
beyond that, it's very limited what she wants, or what fits her
quick toss, trip attack, and that's basically it

pearl storm
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Not all fighters get all weapon masteries but they learn a good bunch

dark stream
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not 2024 promoting fighters become zoro from one piece

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carrying around 10 different weapon types on their back

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since switching weapons can be done in a turn

pearl storm
pearl storm
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Fighters aren't just I can hit enemy but I have studied the art of combat and learned many weapon fighting styles

#

That's literally so cool and so mch needed flavour to fighters

dark stream
# pearl storm What does parry and riposte do?
  • Parry is a reaction upon an enemy "hitting me", that reduces damage I take based on a superiority die roll + my dex
  • Ripose is a reaction upon an enemy "missing me", that lets me retaliate with an attack back at the enemy who missed me- adding super die to damage
pearl storm
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Both of those aren't weapon masteries

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Your ass lying

#

Battle Masters still got more then enough to hold on to and can do even more

dark stream
#

there are 8 battle masteries from 2024- 5 of them are battle master maneuvers

dark stream
pearl storm
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And with that I conclude my final statement

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Weapon Masteries are awesome

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I love them

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They are a good addition

dark stream
#

"cleave" is "sweeping attack" maneuver(but better..)
"grace" is unique bubbligoodjob
"nick" is just extra attack for rogues
"push" is "pushing attack maneuver, without the added damage
"sap" is just "menacing attack" maneuver, without the fear
"slow" is just the slasher feat, added to non-slashing weapons(I hope they change the slasher feat, then)
"topple" is just "trip attack" maneuver, without added damage
"vex" is just "feinting maneuver"

dark stream
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they just take away from battle master

hollow plume
dark stream
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not to forget, to even do the battle master maneuvers, you spend super dice

hollow plume
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"When the spell ends, the target can’t move or take actions until after its next turn, as a wave of lethargy sweeps over it."

dark stream
dark stream
hollow plume
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mmmmmm fair enough

#

but ur also 1200ms away from the party

dark stream
#

true

hollow plume
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it's like that meme of a player making an AC 30 tortlle

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and the DM going "Cool gimme a dex save"

dark stream
# hollow plume and the DM going "Cool gimme a dex save"

lv20 paladin tortle, with feat to add proficiency in dex, and with the shield master feat, a +3 shield and 20 dex and charisma

that's 5 base from dex, +5 from aura of protection for total of 10, +6 from proficiency, that's 16, +5 from the shield, that's +21 to dex saves
with the shield master feat

pearl storm
pearl storm
pearl storm
dark stream
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actually, let's take it a step further, we're not a paladin, we're an artificer

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so no aura of protection, instead we have the "soul of artifice" and are attuned to 6 different items, 2 of them being ring of protection and cloak of protection

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so we're instead at +24 to dex saves with shield master

pearl storm
dark stream
#

or actually not even, I'd just use my boots that let me fly

pearl storm
pearl storm
dark stream
#

with?

pearl storm
#

Everything of each

#

5 with their claws

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5 with their breath

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5 with spells

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5 with their jaws

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God I love being a DMlaynaHehheh

dark stream
#

cool, so they have to beat 34ac

#

before I cast shield

pearl storm
dark stream
pearl storm
#

Breath attack go over AC

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So do spells

dark stream
#

just so you're aware- the lv20 artificer trait "soul of artifice" increases your saves by +1 for each attuned item
of which at that level you can have 6- 2 of which further increases it by 1 each, for a total of +8 to all my saving throws
on top of what I already have- add to that 34ac

pearl storm
#

So still 10 dragons attacking you with full force

dark stream
#

and all this is passive, with me doing nothing

pearl storm
#

Blah blah blah

dark stream
pearl storm
#

I cast not invited to DnD session

dark stream
pearl storm
#

And with that final attack I now go and sleeo

dark stream
#

welcome to why dms don't do lv20

pearl storm
dark stream
pearl storm
#

It's special if you are lvl 6 or 8 and do crazy stuff

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Or lvl 10 and 12

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Anyway

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Sleep

dark stream
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sweet dreams ~