go fuck urself Hoyo
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180 pulls aint fukin free
Hoyo can go fuck themself by promoting dis as free to claim
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could say it's "free" if event was permanent cuz then all u need to do is play and u will get it eventualy
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like i said when they add somethig they have to be a catch, a catch dat literaly make them 50 step backward from the good
willow zephyr
her regular outfit is cuter anyway 
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i dont mind wats cuter, i just didnt like manipulative promotion tectic
its scumbag behaviour
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indeed
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if they tell as wat it is i have ZERO issue
the fact that they hide it to brings up hype make them even more a scumbag of a company
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oh i got 4 total of the new guy
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im trying to get his W-engine
willow zephyr
oh hes the same thingy as xiuan
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accidently got dis
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does that mean hes good with her?
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ah so rupture chars are strong dps chars but with a draw back?
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idk about draw back all i know they HP base and they ignore enemy def
willow zephyr
no wait xi yuan doesn't have a draw back shes just strong 
anyway new cool guy char yeey 
anyway i should go sleep now so i can finaly try blue protocol tomorrow
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ah so rupture chars are strong dps chars but with a draw back?
well dat ez enuff to built
perma banner.... i think zenless really want me to main Grace
M3 and now sig weapon
yooo Manato M2 is pretty good, he's an A rank agent
usually S rank got dis kind of mindscape
lime bear
Dan "The Rock" Heng is actually pretty fun to use. getting decent enough relics was a pain and I'm using the Herta's store preservation 5star LC for now but he's pretty well done.
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I hope chisa gets a good vc
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Dan "The Rock" Heng is actually pretty fun to use. getting decent enough relics ...
tbf the only relics u need for him is just ATK% body & orb / ERR% rope / SPD boots focusing only on ATK% and SPD substats
mine is alr built the moment I got him
and I manually enhanced them from +0 given they were just freebies I got from farming for Evernight's relics with whom I didnt even pull for
just go standard 134 spd and you're pretty much gucci
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I know, I already have him built
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I have an S5 "March hugging PomPom in front of the mirror" LC I'm curr using for him
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some dude is using acherons LC on him just for teh atk value
willow zephyr
I hope chisa gets a good vc
Imagine it's her va 
Oh vid sub is 5min total so can post zani i think
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Yui Makino
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Or galbrena if none of u did her
So do I post zani or galbrena
Which will tempt her more
Oh wait maybe the dude
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already show her dis
willow zephyr
Ah I see
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pretty much all 1.0 trailer i already submited way back when game release
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So then which do u think will tempt more zani or galbrena
I would have wanted to show the new dude but no vid yet
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idk im not even gonna try anymore so i dont really care, i just gonna enjoy the game myself
and submit funny video instead
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I think this is my first time ever experiencing first person boob mode in a game
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Welp the call of playable bara man candy is too great, I'm gonna try out ZZZ
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which one val?
willow zephyr
idk her name but saw a clipp where she has a big fluffy tail and red eyes and very happy to be called senior
willow zephyr
well fuck now i want her even more
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well fuck now i want her even more
"rumored" important keyword there
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yeah since i thought yi xuan was a void hunter as well i thought it would seem odd for 2 void hunters to be in the same thingy
unless it's section 6?
cuz thats like the top hunting thingy right?
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ah so invited but said no
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Only Miyabi are official Void hunter
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ah so invited but said no
technically yeh
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Who TF is dis 
hello??? out of no where
another lightning attacker???
Liv a DPS now??? after all her frame as support
yup dis is me... wanna take my main Seat as Lighting DPS
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Finished the main story in WuWa I guess the leaks about us going to New Federation next were wrong?
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we dont know yet since we dont know if new federation is the region name
kinda like how people often forgot dat septimon is Part of rinnacita not new region
New Federation can be sub area like Septimon and Lahai Roi might be the region.. or another way around
idt there a leak we going to new federation, just rumored
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Augusta V1 looks so weird
insane how it change
but early version Augusta can juggle enemy in the air i would like dat... very DMC like
her old ult
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kinda like how people often forgot dat septimon is Part of rinnacita not new reg...
We still have an entire third city-state of Rinascita that we haven't even visited yet.
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YAAAAAAASSSS take u long enough
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YAAAAAAASSSS take u long enough
It only took four entire patches after her introduction and almost a year since the last 4 star release
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since she only appear like 3 min here and there makes alot of sense still
just its been way too long without a 4*
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Which reminds me Calcharo finally has appeared in the main story which means now only Danjin and Xiang Yao are entirely nonexistent outside of limited-time stuff
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Xiangli Yao has a whole Act just for himself along with Zhezhe... just for wat ever reason Kuru didnt leave dat in Game as permanan quest
and still not adding them back in
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Xiangli Yao has a whole Act just for himself along with Zhezhe... just for wat e...
Zhezhi has a CQ and also appears in the Somnoire thing tho
Xiang Yao is like Danjin, completely nonexistent to anyone who didn't do the limited time content he appeared in
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yeh but Xiangli Yao has a whole Act like big patch act just for him
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Tho iirc Danjin is nonexistent even counting limited time stuff
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yeh but Xiangli Yao has a whole Act like big patch act just for him
Yeh but it was a limited time event content not permanent stuff like Zhezhi
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Kuro take it out cuz its a limited time event... even tho Ciaconna story also technically an event but it stays in game
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Ciaccona at least has appearances outside of her event tho
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so idk why they didnt add Xiangli Yao story back in
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Xiang Yao, if you didn't play during his event patch then he just literally doesn't exist for you
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yeh but the act tied with Hwanglong story
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so idk why they didnt add Xiangli Yao story back in
I do wonder if the plan is to eventually add it back in, isn't he now the resonator with the longest time since a rerun(not counting anniversary)?
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which is weird why they not adding it back
its not like they doing that festival like lantern rite every year
so why not add them back in
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its not like they doing that festival like lantern rite every year
lol watch 2.9 that exact thing happens and he returns
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dat part of the patch.. i wont call it an event
its an Main Story Act
for Hwanglong
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If it's limited time like that I call it a "Story Event" like I do for Genshin. Cuz it's canon that you did it even if you missed it
Zhezhi CQ even references the story event content despite never having done it
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it tied to Hwanglong so people who missed dat patch just suddenly skip to the mountiant
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Meanwhile that stupid fuckign Cubie quest is STILL FUCKING STUCK IN MY QUEST LONG
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Zhezhi CQ even references the story event content despite never having done it
yeh cuz its count as Main Story
but they take it out for wat ever reason
i feels like people who already played dosent gives a shit about other player who missed it... and newer player didnt know it exist wont be asking to add it back... also he's a Male character... which is in dis community nobody gives a shit about male character
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but they take it out for wat ever reason
My thoughts is that 1.x they were still getting their footing and so copying Genshin to a degree on certain aspects. 2.x they finally found their footing and went their own way which is why event stuff is now shifted to a permanent side section now instead of just being rendered entirely unavailable
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they deffinatly copying genshin on dat festival patch
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Cuz when I tried the game out back in 1.0 when it was new, the game felt a lot like a Genshin clone, but when I returned to the game in 2.0 it felt entirely different like its own game
2.0 really was like a soft reboot for the game
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I hear ZZZ is similar where it was terrible on release but currently is in a good state?
I installed it last night but have yet to play it cuz Pokemon just released
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rn is where 1.x supposed to end cuz ||we meet we greeted by 1.x song and log in screen in the MSQ||
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I hear ZZZ is similar where it was terrible on release but currently is in a goo...
i would say zenless best state is 2 patch ago, now they going downhill cuz the honeymoon era has ended
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rn is where 1.x supposed to end cuz ||we meet we greeted by 1.x song and log in ...
I mean makes sense if you keep the "1.x was still a genshin clone" aspect; 1.x story is the prologue and Rinascita is Chapter 1
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2.0 and 2.1 zenless is great
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i would say zenless best state is 2 patch ago, now they going downhill cuz the h...
Oh I'm not counting the whole "honeymoon phase over" part
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if u didnt count the honeymoon era then yeh its current day zenless
cuz its end at 2.0
1st year anniversary
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Genshin's honeymoon era was Fontaine but here we are now two regions later and the game is still seemingly going strong despite just recently deciding to lock multiple important elements behind whaling
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Genshin's honeymoon era was Fontaine but here we are now two regions later and t...
honey moon era means the first year when game trying to appeal to as many audiance as possible, genshin does dat for Inazuma
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Tho I have seen people theorizing that the locked WQ is only Flins-specific for now, and we'll prolly get a 4* character in the future that can also trigger the quest.
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Fontaine is peak Genshin era not honey moon, people already leaving on inazuma and Sumeru
Honey moon era = 1 year period, so many free rewards
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honey moon era means the first year when game trying to appeal to as many audian...
Nah Inazuma was pretty mixed reception, I remember cuz I started playing during that era and I saw a LOT of hate about it. Meanwhile Fontaine was pretty much universally praised as peak when it was current, and has never stopped being praised as peak since.
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Nah Inazuma was pretty mixed reception, I remember cuz I started playing during ...
yes dats why i said dats thier honey moon era where its end, they stop appealing to people
rn Zenless is on dat state
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And I have to agree. When I reached Inazuma the fun factor went downhill considerably and the story had some very questionable things going for it.
All of 4.x tho was a joy to experience on the other hand, and I still look back at it fondly
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So they have yet to reach their Fontaine peak era
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no not yet
Zenless is the best Hoyo game state rn among all 3 hoyo game, but as good as the story is its not Peaked yet
zenless has so much potential
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Genshin definitely now in that "chasing the high" era, Nod-Krai really feels like it's trying to recapture what made Fontaine peak
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cuz their setting is so dark, might be even darker then WuWa tbh
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Zenless is the best Hoyo game state rn among all 3 hoyo game, but as good as the...
Yeh that's what I been hearing, seems like right now the two best state gacha of this sort is WuWa followed by ZZZ
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like in zenless the story not shying away from death and brutal human experiment
which is i like
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I mean I love me some cartoony less "dark" anime-ish
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zenless is very cartoony so its fits u
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Tho Genshin is actually mega dark and deep just most of it is hidden in optional side content
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Yeh I been hearing that. But WuWa isn't actually all that dark I think. Mature, but not necessarily "dark"
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still not as fucked tup as PGR still
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Yeh I been hearing that. But WuWa isn't actually all that dark I think. Mature, ...
yeh dats fits better they taming it down for obvious reason
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ZZZ I hear is Evangelion/Utena levels of fucked up dark story
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WuWa feels more like a non-Evangelion Gainax anime
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2.0 story turn so much from 1.x cuz proxy now involved directly no longger tru TV
so the risk is higher
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1.x story was fun, but 2.0 feels like it got a lot of polish
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i like the story diraction Zenless going, might be a slow cook but idk maybe worth to wait
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I just hope they don't pull a Genshin and do Huanglong like Monstadt
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dats a thing it can happen tho
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Five years later and we still apparently haven't even explored half of the Mondstadt region
I remember when Chasm released Hoyo had said something along the lines of us having only explored 60% of Liyue and 40% of Mondstadt. Which sorta tracks on the Liyue part now that we have Chenyu Vale and the bits added from Sumeru release.
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anyway... rn
- WuWa current patch is the best game story i ever played across the board not just gacha game, but the patch is fukin empty as shit has nothing to do..
- Zenless story route is going great and i hope their thirst for money didnt ruined the story experience of the game, cuz hoyo already start implementing wat they did with HSR to cash grab
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Zenless just needs to keep adding burly tiddy dudes as playable and they'll prolly keep a decent fanbase. I saw a clip apparently that Manato guy has actual jiggle physics
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I remember when Chasm released Hoyo had said something along the lines of us hav...
Liyue underground still nowhere to be seen
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Liyue underground still nowhere to be seen
That's because they made it a separate area called the Chasm.
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Zenless just needs to keep adding burly tiddy dudes as playable and they'll prol...
they still wanna kept their gooner audiance tho
if u see how they change Lucia and split her into 3 character
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Tho the real reason is because they didn't start experimenting with underground layers till Inazuma
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Manato was one of them
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I mean Banyue pretty much convinced me to give the game a try
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That's because they made it a separate area called the Chasm.
nono its a city under liyue not chasm
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burly robot dude that plays with balls? That's even more in my lane than Banyue, Ben and Lycaon
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yes he did
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nono its a city under liyue not chasm
Oh? I haven't heard anything about htat
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yup they said it once
never said it again
im like when... when are u gonna gives us the city under liyue dat u talk so highly about
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You mean the place we went to with Dain? That had the upside down statue?
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nope
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I don't remember a city under Liyue ever being mentioned outside of the Chasm
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I don't remember a city under Liyue ever being mentioned outside of the Chasm
i hope they didnt back track and dat and just said its the Chasm
im not a fan of bleach so i dont play
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That being said, it's not out of the quest that they could add in an underground layer for Liyue at some point. But If you go by that "60%" figure back on Chasm release, and look at what's left of Liyue still unreleased, the figure tracks. Sumeru release added 5%, Chenyu release another 25%. The leftovers between Chenyu, Qingce and Mondstadt look to be another 3-5% and Blackcliff 5-7%
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there a mining place in liyue dats not open idk if dat supposed to be the entereance to the underground area under liyue harbour
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there a mining place in liyue dats not open idk if dat supposed to be the entere...
Nah that's the road to Blackcliff region
Been "caved in" forever
We also have that little cottage on the edge of Blackcliff region just out of bounds that has had actual collision since 2.x
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Nah that's the road to Blackcliff region
ohh nice dats one already been confirmed
right here.. next to Tortalini domain
dis supposed to be an entrance
also here behind tortelini domain in those black area supposed to be a village
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ohh nice dats one already been confirmed
Yup that leads to the Blackcliff area, another sub-region of Liyue. It's been painted in-game to be akin to Chenyu so I'm curious what they will do since there's not that much unreleased space there between Liyue and Sumeru
I expect they'll actually extend the coastline out like a sort of peninsula to make the area bigger
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like all dis area in black.... supposed to be something...
bottom left is sumeru harbour
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like all dis area in black.... supposed to be something...
Yup that entire area is suppose to be the Blackcliff region of Liyue
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Genshin!!!!! release it come on!!!!
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It's been hyped up for years just like Chenyu Vale
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Also the red dot here there's a cottage out of bounds that has full collision even back in 2.x. Like it's not just a visual it's an actual full asset
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if u talking about few house over the bound then yeh i seen some vid
there actually stuff over there
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Yeh you can easily reach the cottage with Sayu's E
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You use to bypass the Paimon barrier fully by the time you reached it but I think it was 5.x they patched it up so that Paimon barrier extends to the entirety of the cottage area
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its 6.x yoooo
With Nod-Krai having an expansion north already visible I do wonder if 6.x isn't gonna be the "expand the previous regions" that everyone was hoping for
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ngl i hate it when drip marketing drop a video makes me hoping for an actual animation 
dumb ass me keep falling for it... it just a music with voice plus PNG
https://vxtwitter.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1978673505769071043
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With Nod-Krai having an expansion north already visible I do wonder if 6.x isn't...
well its not "Hope for" is wat they said they going to do in 6.x and they better do wat they say they would do
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Like we'll prolly finally get Blackcliff with the LR patch, but we still have a ton of unexplored; Fontaine we still haven't visited Mt. Esus. Sumeru has a bunch of coastline and a massive amount of "gap" space connecting to Natlan and Nod-Krai; Liyue has the back side of Chenyu still between Fontaine, Qingce and Monstadt. And of course Mondstadt we apparently haven't even explored half of it yet with it having a ton of region still to the north. That one particular section just north of the lake that is on the map already, we can't access but has some flower spawns and you can even send out expeditions to that area.
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Hoyo aint got dat much faith on playerbase to play around with how Broken Lunar reaction is
they better do wat they said they would do
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I still don't know anything about Lunar reaction because Nod-Krai has been the absolute worst for explaining all the new mechanics, and I have no Nod-Krai characters to actually trigger the reactions.
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"6.x gonna be exspensition and finishing up un-finish lore area and other region" 
better keep ur word Hoyo
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"6.x gonna be exspensition and finishing up un-finish lore area and other region...
Unless we getting a map expansion every patch I don't see that happening. There's just too much left
We already know our next map expansion is more Nod-Krai cuz you can see the placeholder to the north
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We already know our next map expansion is more Nod-Krai cuz you can see the plac...
yeh cuz i cant maxed out the staue yet.. which is anoyyed me and cucking me from getting dat namecard
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Blackcliff would be LR patch. Nod-Krai gap with Sumeru prolly added with north Fontaine expansion. Natlan gap with Sumeru prolly added with southern Sumeru coastal expansion that also opens the water space connecting to Watatsumi. Final Liyue bits would be added with a north+northwest Mondstadt expansion. Then we also still have Dornmann Port far to the north. That's five separate map expansions right there. Nod-Krai northern area makes six, and I don't see us getting a map expansion for 6/8 patches
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just keep ur word and be transparent Hoyo... ffs
dont do dis "Vivian skin u can claim for free" but left out the part dat u need to use 180 limited banner tape pulls then u can claim it for free
such a scumbag moves...
dont do any of these shit please
if its required 180 pulls to claim it, just say it stright up
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Blackcliff would be LR patch. Nod-Krai gap with Sumeru prolly added with north F...
i thought natlan is done done
the fontaine and sumeru part they probebly gonna pull dis again so i dont really expect anything there
but dis " southern Sumeru coastal expansion that also opens the water space connecting to Watatsumi" is the first time im hearing it
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i thought natlan is done done
Nah we got bits of Natlan in the north and south gaps between it and Sumeru
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but dis " southern Sumeru coastal expansion that also opens the water space conn...
Oh? You never noticed Port Ormos is in direct view of Watatsumi Island but the map doesn't let you sail directly between the two?
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nothing there but a beach tho
Yeh that's what I mean, that entire strip "gap extending all the way south, and then another one to the north that also connects to Nod-Krai and Fontaine
I agree it'll obviously be "little pointless bits" like the Liyue added in Sumeru or the Sumeru added with Fontaine lake
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Oh? You never noticed Port Ormos is in direct view of Watatsumi Island but the m...
u mean dis
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u mean dis
Yup
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Yeh that's what I mean, that entire strip "gap extending all the way south, and ...
ohhh u mean dis side
yea dats a massive land mass
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Yup. There's a ton of coastal Sumeru and Natlan that is still left to add in even if it's pointless empty like that was added in 4.6
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dat one i dont see anything getting added tho
There are many of us that hate seeing those little pointless gaps in the map. Prolly an OCD thing
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Liyue blackcliff most likey gonna claim all of that patch
the port and watastumi island wont be any connection
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Yup that's my thought, the land will extend out more than it currently does ingame
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the port and watastumi island wont be any connection
They'll prolly open the waters between the two with the Blackcliff release, maybe a tiny island or two with a poi
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kinda like fontaine and sumeru yeh
just pointless island with nothing on it
when they release blackcliff
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Southern coast of Sumeru tho, that looks big enough already ingame that it could easily be a map expansion of its own
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Dornman Port supposed to be ready
wtf happen
did they push it back to fixed up the story telling
cuz they did admit the story are not good and not going the way they want it to be
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Well seeing as we still have a TON of Mondstadt to the north apparently, Dornmann prolly pushed back until a "return to Mondstadt" sort of thing
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if dat the case i dont mind it being puch back if they fixing the game cuz Nod krai is a positive improvement if we ignore the new Lunar Pay to win shit
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I mean there's apparently enough Mondstadt left that we'll need at least 2-3 map expansions to get it all
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Dornmann Port is the northeast edge apparently. Then we'd have the north region to the west of that. And then of course the current spots just north of the lake and west of that connecting to Fontaine and the rest of Chenyu
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pretty sure the port already leaked
i mean the map
idk if dis a leak or someone made it up
cant tell anymore
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lol I remember that one, it's a pretty bad mockup that was presented as a "leak". If you look closely the "port" is just a clipped section of Port Ormos rotated and edited in to fit
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Isn't Manato only an A rank tho?
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he is but still releasing an S rank Fire rupture right away after A rank Fire rupture
kinda big pile of shit they thrown at Manato main
atleast let him try to shine atleast 1 patch gap
like Manato dis patch... Banyue is patch after next patch
atleast he have time, now Banyue coming next patch.. there no reason to lvl manato or even use him
i still would cuz im stupid cuz i wanna play everyone, but not everyone think like me
also i M2 him which ishis best copies/cons
wish i can get his w-engine to r5 tho... but banner say no and give me 40+ piper W-engine instead
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YAAAAAAASSSS take u long enough
A 4 star in my wuwa?? I thought they forgot they had them
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X
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She will be my 1st 4 star i fully level and gear
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Alti the only wuwa play without a built sanhua
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literally S tier she beat some 5*
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Alti the only wuwa play without a built sanhua
i believe dat at dis point
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She adds so much damage to any character
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And gave a free skin too
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the goat~
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And gave a free skin too
true
but i go back to her normal outfit
cuz i like dat looks more
Sanhua NA wear the skin
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I like the mask on her new skin
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yeh mask i like but not the fit
not dat i dont like it, i like it... but i like her defult outfit more
its cooler
rugged sand
Sanhua right there bro
I have to love the char in order to put time into them
Just my way
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ehek cool... ice 
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I have to love the char in order to put time into them
u no love sanhua how dare
diffrent taste i guess
anyway.. i was glazing manato and u guys came in derailed my thought
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From what I remember the only time she was in the story was when we meet jinhsi, so not much time to get attached to her
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anyway tell me what 4* have these kind of constellation/eidolons/mindscape
dis shit usualy 5* character get as their cons
dats only M2 btw
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Yeah, s6 sanhua should just turn her into a 5 star, can she is one at that point lol
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C2 equivelance
and then look at Manato's weapon passive like defuck
usualy 5* give dis kind of bonus
dats R1
when manato reveal i dont even interested to play him, now im excited to see him in action
woooohh i would like to get dis
max refinement
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Lol, but tails are made for touching
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oh zenless dev know
they literally made a woman stroaking their coochi meow meow on a hammer handle like a stripper
they know wat they doing
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Snowbreak
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I see now why they are calling gacha gooner
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the game dat i tell u before dedicated a whole patch just to redo all ASS and TITS jiggle physic
and u can marry ur character
maximized on dat parasocial Gooner monatization
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I can see where they budgeted most of their resources
Might as well for go hentai at this point, actually I wonder if there are any gacha full hentai games yet
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Might as well for go hentai at this point, actually I wonder if there are any ga...
there million of them
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I guess I mean more ecchi than hentai
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https://youtube.com/shorts/9ZD5sXlnb4Y?si=sv8_VS-KUpQ0POrP
Nyanners is such a tease
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Lol, I mostly watch her clips, but yes
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i was wondering why suddenly my computer been lagging... check task manager
Hoyoplay 20% CPU
70/240 never gonna happen
dis girl is teasing to the next level
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idk i didnt look
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At least you have the ER requirements covered
unintentionally
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I actually want Cyrene to be a 4 star, just to show a middle finger to teh players
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they literally made a woman stroaking their coochi meow meow on a hammer handle ...
That's pretty tame considerinig most ZZZ players prolly have experienced Joy's introduction in Bayonetta
willow zephyr
i lost to the lv.100 || lioness cuz she kept moving so far away i almost got kicked from the quest so i ran back and she refused to come back to me so she killed of my chars cuz i wasn't allowed to heal properly >.<||
now shes just wrecking me completely >.<
normal wolf
grave nebula
That's pretty tame considerinig most ZZZ players prolly have experienced Joy's i...
tbh i doubt most of these hoyogooners ever touch Bayonatta an actual game made with passion
junior arch
nice, now just need to see what kinda for role they will have
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https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1979019544195633224?t=mzW1P6nrpmj_VFzFbIccp...
so braodblade... Havoc
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https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1979034635955781841?s=19
so many rectfier... omg
rugged sand
so braodblade... Havoc
She apparently has two stages
1 is healer 1 dps
U can switch between the two
junior arch
i need to see the officaly animations now, hurry up kuro
grave nebula
She looks amazing
looks means nothing
if u look at PGR u really cant tell which is 4* which is 5*
they aint gonna cheap out on looks just because its a 4* character
junior arch
if chisa is a healer, i hope she heals while attacking like cantarella and iuno does
would be annoying if she does no damage
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if u look at PGR u really cant tell which is 4* which is 5*
Liv S rank (left), Discord A rank (right)
i hope buling not a DPS
i want her to be a Powerful support like 4* options but lower DMG
DMG amplifier or something
junior arch
i am going to guess buling will be on the rerun banner and not chisa banner to make us have to pull on the reruns
grave nebula
most likely
junior arch
just wonder how she will fit in, will she be for budget augusta, or well she be used as budget for future meta
grave nebula
we have basic amp, heavy amp, lib amp... no skill and echo skill amp options yet for 4*
we even have coordinated amp with Youhu
please Buling be one of those 2
junior arch
lol, what ever role she is, being a rect user, i am going to guess we ahve another stringmaster or variation user to fight over them
grave nebula
too many rectfier...
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lime bear
I hate the fact they stopped time gating the events and you can clear a combat event with 10 sections in a single hour
grave nebula
now dats the worst/biggest L take someone ever put out... literally a perfect take to pair with "someone just cant be happy" response. Time gating is the worst thing in all live service... never thought i seen someone actually said dat they hate game remove time gating... wow...
willow zephyr
i like not having it time gated cuz then i can more easily focus on playing my other games and just finish it all in 1 go
willow zephyr
i think i can understand why u would like it
makes it feel longer
and if u wanna enjoy it more then making it feel longer is great
it's not just gone in a flash
grave nebula
time playing still the same... but u have to stare at it not being able to do it
willow zephyr
yes how long is takes to do is the same but it feels longer cuz of the wait
simular to how i feel wuwa main quests are longer now that they are split in 2
grave nebula
wanna make it feel longger just dont do everything in 1 go... its not forcing u to do it
time gatting stuff forcing u to not able to do it all in 1 go
one give u a choice one didnt
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simular to how i feel wuwa main quests are longer now that they are split in 2
yeh dats a good things to do cuz they didnt show it
issue with time gatting stuff its right there in front of ur face but with Big timer
if they hide it then sure i dont mind
willow zephyr
wanna make it feel longger just dont do everything in 1 go... its not forcing u ...
true but it's difficult to stop urself from doing it all in 1 go when all u really wanna do is play more of it
grave nebula
well dats the person problem
willow zephyr
indeed
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i saw time gated stuff i just wait til its all unlocked
willow zephyr
i do prefer no time gating myself means i can play other games more
willow zephyr
i saw time gated stuff i just wait til its all unlocked
same 
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its ruined the expirence pretty much time gatting stuff
willow zephyr
anyway need to get ready to leave for work 
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i still say wanna time gate? hide it dont show it
lime bear
wow you guys roasted me, I wasn't entirely serious about it but damn
better than blue protocol at least time gating MSQ with 12 hours wait IRL
yes it's real
they are time gating your MSQ progress
willow zephyr
wow you guys roasted me, I wasn't entirely serious about it but damn
I didn't mean to
willow zephyr
better than blue protocol at least time gating MSQ with 12 hours wait IRL
Just untill it's available to everyone right? Not an individual thing? 
I Just started yesterday
grave nebula
try asking soup or aizo
willow zephyr
Was asking soup questions while playing yesterday
Current look of my char
Tried to make him resemble me
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Current look of my char
ur face mark remind me of demon in Kpop demon hunter
i just relized dat Galbrena is wat The Fractsidus been wanting to make... the perfect half human half teced discord.... and she also the first resonator to awaken 2nd awakening without being a Sentinel resonator... no wonder The Architect was so satisfied at the end... everything goes according to planned
lime bear
Just untill it's available to everyone right? Not an individual thing? <:potastS...
I'm not sure, i hit level 15 quest in MSQ and it told me to wait 12 hours IRL. I find it stupid even if it's just a launch thing to slow down player progression so more people can enjoy it but when I posted a tweet I got over 2k likes on it so who knows
It actually made me not WANT to play the game
some streamers even mentioned that if they are not sponsored they will not play teh game because of stuff like that at all.
now imagine you get sponsorship from the company running the game and the conditions are you are to start a new game and hit lvl 20 but you are hit with a 12 hours wait time gate at level 15. This is grounds for a lawsuit against the company for fraudulent practices because sponsorships for gaems are liek 2-4 hours tops and that's it
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who ever person who came up with the idea of Power Adaption in HSR Simulated universe bless u
make un-lvl character and weapon maxed out and decently level talent to be playable without actually lvling them
and Zenless follow dat footstep
Genshin!!!! make simulated universe u fuck!!!
aite i like Manato gameplay alot
sacrificing HP for DMG high risk high rewards
why defuck they make him a 4* haiyaa
lime bear
Yeah what DU did is awesome
I only have that one lightning hunt dude on lvl 60 but talents are mostly just to lvl 8 on all chars and not even geared majority of them so I can use whichever I want in DU, especially if I get the odd codes combo, fighting bosses with 4 stars never felt so satisfying
grave nebula
have to make new enemies dat make all old unit obsolete ehh hoyo... never fukin change arent chu...
wait my bad.. u dont want to change
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god deym playing while managing HP drain is so fun
finish with style
can feel dat he weaker then the others... the downside of A rank/4 star DPS in Hoyo game
such a shame he have such badass mechanic and fun af gameplay
time to max him out 
proper gust
Chasca gets one shotted for no reason
Weekly boss? Sounds about right, almost every time I do that fight someone in my team ends up randomly getting oneshotted for no reason.
lime bear
Chessboard boss is my fav especially when I'm hosting cuz I require everyone to sit at the table
iykyk
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DAMM IT MZ
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@timestamp As day 1 player myself... i feel it
its legit hitting dat hard
the emotional rush when dat BGM drop
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Never forget wat Sethos could have been...
thnx god they didnt keep the old flight
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her boss must be new yeh
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dis is VERY SUS
dis is hwanglong character mats
wuu her weapon passive saying dat havoc negative status is live
Spectro Frazzlem, Aero Erosion, Havoc turn 
rugged sand
grave nebula
dat flower really bothers me
Qiuyuan use dat flower but it make sense cuz he's from Hwanglong...
but Chisa...
is dis Hwanglong sub area??? like septimon sub area for Rinnacita
rugged sand
rugged sand
CHARACTERS
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the blonde and blue hair?
is next place gonna be based of Japan or something... the hair style kinda scream dat
rugged sand
the blonde and blue hair?
Yush
grave nebula
alti who u missing again in phrolova team?
if u have extra left after getting Chisa, both Cantarella and Phrolova having their rerun
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8AgjeWg/
blondie Spectro DPS
blue hair Fusion support
new area seem to be an academy theme
rugged sand
if u have extra left after getting Chisa, both Cantarella and Phrolova having th...
I got phrolova and cantarella
So chisa will be my final spot for that team
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Chisa seem like she be setup for havoc negative effect
she gonna get her own team like Carthetiya n Zani
ciaconna liberation still count as applying negative effect
is it gonna be 3 people team like Phrolova/Cartethiya or just 2 people team like Zani+Pheobe
junior arch
new area seem to be an academy theme
Lol rover starting their high-school romcom anime arc
junior arch
Seems like chisa might work with any negative status...hmmmmm
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their official response for not wanting to give rover an outfit cuz they dont want it to be clipping in cutscene...
seem like they going for dat now and make it not clipping tru cutscene just to give rover an outfits
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wat an end screen lol
junior arch
Lol
lime bear
I think there's a channel on yt that has those
grave nebula
yup there it is
rugged sand
So assuming it's the pics I posted earlier
rugged sand
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8AgjeWg/
This
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i have my doubts after seeing zani's outfit model
rugged sand
i have my doubts after seeing zani's outfit model
The military one
grave nebula
dis one looks alot more like brand collab
yeh its collab art
not original in game outfits
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The military one
i can see why u call it millitary
Aite Buling is Baizhi
finally another universal Amp character
SK, Verina, Baizi, Buling (DMG amp by 15% for 30s)
ty for not making her a DPS
lime bear
Hoyo dumb bitches
venti and Klee buffs make no sense
Venti gets his ability to pierce targets with anemo like he did in his trial battle against Dvalin
and Klee gets mona's ability to auto cast CA after 3 NAs
this is stupid
willow zephyr
oh they got buffs
but yeah i would have wanted klee's buff to be that ult is still up when u switch off her
willow zephyr
yes just casualy get her C4 or C6
willow zephyr
if her C4 gives her that then it's never happening >.<
not that i had much hope anyway
willow zephyr
keep in mind this year we didn't have Klee Banner at all
klee needs to have rerun with mom
willow zephyr
same cuz i don't need her so i can focus on her mom
lime bear
well Alice takes priority
but I will roll for Klee
I lost her last year because 50/50
and her banenr is always 14 days instead of 21
lime bear
I know
willow zephyr
that would make the other banner 28 days
lime bear
but her banner 2 years ago and last year were both 14 days
lime bear
that would make the other banner 28 days
it fucking was
although it was 28 days and then 14 days of Klee
IIRC
grave nebula
Venti gets his ability to pierce targets with anemo like he did in his trial bat...
giving smol gimick to trash unit i wont really call it a buff
both of them are not good value
if u wanna buff character do it right... learn from PGR
or better example do it how Zenless does to Ellen Joe
overhowl passive buff + extra animation + cooldown reduction + overall inscress DPS (not match the new DPS of course but atleast she strongger and viable again)
junior arch
i will not be pulling on the part 2 banner, so i prob will not have buling for a while
junior arch
i dont need anything on part 2 banner, it all reruns that i have
everytime i pull for a 4 star, i get 5 star early and reset my pity
junior arch
buling is coming this patch?
2.8 second phase banner as a rate up 4 star
willow zephyr
so we already know the banner line up?
is rover getting a new outfit?
nvm
i already knew it was edited but for some reason didn't question the outfit then realised
he was dressed like vergil
might as well share it
i want some new strong black shore chars
strong lore wise anyway
concidering how strong the fracsidus chars are i would think only reason they aren't acting more in the open is cuz there is another force thats keeping them in check and i would love for that to be the black shores
ofc some regular chars could be keeping them as well
like the sentinels resonators and just strong fighters like augusta and i guess the new wind guy
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strong lore wise anyway
Black Shore doesn't need new strong characters they got Camellya and Rover and now Galbrena too
willow zephyr
oh yeah i was so happy she joined
also i need to do camellya's quest
idk how strong she is in lore yet
grave nebula
Galbrena is the strongest resonator in the game rn story wise
willow zephyr
Isn't cartethyia and probably dragon lady both still stronger?
Only reason we weren't 1 shot is cuz cartethyia was there
But besides them i'd agree shes strongest
And i really hope i get her >.<
Instagram
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Isn't cartethyia and probably dragon lady both still stronger?
nope galbrena is
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going overclock in and out willingly and dosent need sentinel power to do it
and in full control
willow zephyr
When was second?
grave nebula
also Rover is stronger then Cartethiya
Galbrena is strongger then Rover for 1 sole reason... Rover still have more to grow
willow zephyr
I think of rover as stronger then everyone
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Galbreana strongger then Rover in whole board
Chimera also strongger then abby for obvious reason.. cuz abby didnt remember his old self
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I think of rover as stronger then everyone
2.7 says otherwise
before it was Rover who beat everything
2.7 its Galbrena
after wat Grand architact said Galbrena gonna make an apperance in future once more
willow zephyr
They had to set a trap to seal him in the purest dark tide
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she tied to MSQ
willow zephyr
Shes hunting and a black shore member now
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there are alot of BlackShores members but non of them really a key point on main story
willow zephyr
Atm
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Galbreana seem to be one of them cuz she's very similar to Rover
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idk how strong she is in lore yet
Ah yeh so you don't know the full story behind Camellya yet. I won't give any spoilers but she's canonically one of the strongest resonators in the game and by far the strongest Black Shore member aside from Rover and now Galbrena
willow zephyr
Black shore is tied to us and is Said to operate all over the world rinecita we got told by alto they hadn't been able to get a foothold in for reasons i don't remember
grave nebula
and it make sense dat Galbreana gonna be involved more
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Black shore is tied to us and is Said to operate all over the world rinecita we ...
yeh but we the main attaraction when blackshore got mention they only appear to aid us not really taking the stage
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Tho I do wonder if they gonna canonize Calcharo is up there in power once he starts getting actual story representation
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if u notice all story since 1.x til today Rover are THE saviour who fix everything the stronggest
willow zephyr
and it make sense dat Galbreana gonna be involved more
Yeah atleast either new federation
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2.7 it was Galbrena
dats the first time we as Rover are weaker
we not the almighty cant be defeated
even we stuck in the darkest deep of our mindscape... galbrena able to burst in and pull us out
proper gust
2.7 did feel very much like it nerfed Rover's protagonist powers, they even managed to get trapped by the Dark Tide and have to be bailed out by Galbrena
willow zephyr
Galbrena is strong but they felt the need to seal us away
grave nebula
2.7 did feel very much like it nerfed Rover's protagonist powers, they even mana...
it still make sense cuz we as Rover never really got to overcome dark tide face to face
proper gust
Yeh but protagonist powers tend to trump everything in storytelling, but here they didn't.
protagonist powers is a plot device not actual in-universe power
grave nebula
Galbrena is strong but they felt the need to seal us away
yeh cuz we still strong but still its an obvious power gap between the 2
willow zephyr
We are also tied to abby somehow so cuz abby was weaked by it we also got weakend by it
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We are also tied to abby somehow so cuz abby was weaked by it we also got weaken...
which is why i said we are weaker then galbreana
Galbrena already at full potencial rn
Chimera also at his full power
willow zephyr
yeh cuz we still strong but still its an obvious power gap between the 2
How so? I don't think she did anything rover couldn't have done
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Generally a protagonist isn't gonna end up like Rover did with the dark tide because of protagonist powers. It's a special protagonist-only plot armor.
I like that they had Rover express such vulnerability
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Rover also not really being a protagonist who never lose... we fighting dark tide before and we need to rely on Pholova to do it
proper gust
Sometimes it's a good thing for the protagonist to experience defeat
willow zephyr
Abby didnt know his old power
I meant more abby got basicaly poisoned by the dark tide making him and by extention us weak
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I meant more abby got basicaly poisoned by the dark tide making him and by exten...
dosent matter tthe result stays the same
willow zephyr
We were basicaly weaker in 2.7 then we were in 2.4
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Galbreana is strongger then us Rover
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We were basicaly weaker in 2.7 then we were in 2.4
not really we just powerful as 2.4
just enemy are strongger
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I think it's funny how they felt the need to add in extra dialogue to hit us over the head with the revelation that ||Abby is a threnodian.||
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we literally face to face with Christeforo
we never did dat
before he just use his power from afar
proper gust
I mean Cristoforo got accidentally leaked as a 5 star resonator so we know he's gonna be cracked strong
willow zephyr
not really we just powerful as 2.4
The dark tide was weakening us canterella and/or galbrena Said so no?
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how come u say rover are weaker now when facing one of the strongest Fracsidus member who been setting up all trouble since 2.0 from far away... now we face to face with him a direact in context with his power and say rover is weak
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how come u say rover are weaker now when facing one of the strongest Fracsidus m...
We never faced Cristoforo directly yet I dunno what you are talking about
We thus far only faced his creations
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We never faced Cristoforo directly yet I dunno what you are talking about
i mean not fight fight, facde to face as we actually stand in fornt of him before we got capture
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Galbrena going toe to toe with the GA tho, that kinda cements her as wayyyyyy up there in power
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are we really believe we gonna beat Christoforo there?
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i mean not fight fight, facde to face as we actually stand in fornt of him befor...
We stood in front of him a ton of times, like when we first met him at the start of Rinascita
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We stood in front of him a ton of times, like when we first met him at the start...
in front of him as full hostile ready to fight
proper gust
are we really believe we gonna beat Christoforo there?
I mean we still don't actually know anything about his power as a resonator
Like literally nothing
willow zephyr
I mean i'd assume reality manipulation
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He could turn out to be in-lore the weakest Overseer in terms of his own power and he's just mega cracked because of his "rewrite reality" power
Cuz thus far that's all Cristoforo has going for him, he can rewrite reality
Granted that itself is kinda like, the mega power
but in terms of battle prowess, I feel like he's being set up to be the weakest
I think Scar is actually the strongest battle-wise and we haven't seen a fraction of his actual battle prowess yet
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I mean i'd assume reality manipulation
he might not be dat powerful cuz his dialog with scar he said he needed the laviotan to take over the rain from the sentinel in order for Christofo being able to control teh dark tide and manipulate those in his hand.. like how he bring out scar back from the dark tide
willow zephyr
Oh yeah just realised that was partialy cuz of the threnodians power no? So maybe hes power is different
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yup even Phrolova ask how many assese left he has on him
he said "not much but enough to make use of"
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I'm also curious about "The Excellency" as we still know literally nothing about them other than the name, and that Changli managed to injure them when she ||destroyed the sonoro|| at the end of her CQ.
willow zephyr
I'm happy phrolova moved on from the beyond
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I'm happy phrolova moved on from the beyond
I didn't like it personally, it feels like a cop out to keep her alive.
willow zephyr
She finaly got it and now decided to go do something else
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I did like that aspect true
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she is pretty much immortal with her resoancne ability
its kinda fuck tup dat she cant die
willow zephyr
I didn't like it personally, it feels like a cop out to keep her alive.
I mean from what i saw she never died
proper gust
I interpreted it too as her leaving the Fractsidus, I wonder if she's gonna be a wild card of sorts that sometimes stands with us and sometimes stands against us throughout the rest of the story
willow zephyr
She entered the beyond alive same way we did
willow zephyr
I interpreted it too as her leaving the Fractsidus, I wonder if she's gonna be a...
Same
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her final dialog with scar and chritofo implying she leaving their group... but i dont want Phrolova to do redemtion arc
let her stay Grey
i like when they keep her morally grey
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She entered the beyond alive same way we did
We pretty much "killed" her if you remember, but she merged with her little world so lived on sorta in that state, inevitable to eventually fade alongside it.
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Not everyone needs a redemption
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We pretty much "killed" her if you remember, but she merged with her little worl...
not really if u enter the place and talk with her u will know she pretty much alive just dont wanna leave
she's coping hard in dat sonora sphere
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not really if u enter the place and talk with her u will know she pretty much al...
That conversation only reinforced to me that she was stuck there as part of the place, doomed to fade whenever it did
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yeh she coping
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That she didn't fade when it did, felt like a cop out
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she refused to accept the truth they all dead
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But there's room to fix that plot weakness so I'll give it time to cook
willow zephyr
She had a goal based in love for the people she lost and was willing to do whatever it took to get it but now she got it and has decided to move on so i'd be open to seeing her trying to be good to try and live life again
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I don't know that I'd like it if she suddenly "turned good"
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That she didn't fade when it did, felt like a cop out
u can visit here again and watch she still in there acting like she living her old life before the meteor struck
idk if it still is after 2.7
since she's out
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She was never "evil" or "good", she always felt completely neutral
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she just lil bit fuck tup in the head but for valid reason
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So I'd prefer her to stay that way and serve as ally or enemy depending on the situation. Like I said, a wild card.
Like Vegeta from Dragonball, except less loud and annoying
willow zephyr
She was neutral but only cuz she only cared about the people she had lost
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i hope WuWa bring back galbrena and actually make her involved in MSQ and actaully let her teach rover how to develop new power
willow zephyr
She was a tragic character
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since both have teced like being inside them
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Yes, she's completely self-serving, and as such will do good if it suits her agenda. That puts her into neutral territory
willow zephyr
Galbrena is 100% gonna be in 3.x
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im not 100% sure yet czu 3.x gonna focus on new batch of character
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I just wanna know how tf Lilyland somehow escaped all of this Leviathan dark tide stuff
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but im hopeful
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Like we have an entire third of the Rinascita region that somehow was just, not included in the Threnodian's agenda?
willow zephyr
Yes, she's completely self-serving, and as such will do good if it suits her age...
She could attempt to return to a life where she performs again and builds new connections
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he final line implying dat val
willow zephyr
Who knows maybe after a string of working with us a few times she could joine the black shores
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she gonna find new path for herself... which is wat rover tell her to do
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She could attempt to return to a life where she performs again and builds new co...
Nah, I expect we'll find out later that the Fractsidus has labelled her a traitor of sorts so that's not an option. She'll ally herself with us when it suits her but there will be times where she's an obstacle to get in our way before disappearing again
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Who knows maybe after a string of working with us a few times she could joine th...
lol can you imagine tho Phrolova+Camellya partnership
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as much i hate rover line way back when she said Phrolova didnt really understand wat humanity is... rover is right still... she need to move on even tho wat Rover did is 10x worst then her
willow zephyr
Nah, I expect we'll find out later that the Fractsidus has labelled her a traito...
But why would she?
Spite?
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But why would she?
It would depend on her agenda for whatever the situation is.
willow zephyr
Unless shes with the fractsidus
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If we are at odds with her on something, she stands against us. If allying with us helps her instead, she stands with us
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also the Grand Architect didnt even apply her as a trailer as she leave
he accept it with open hand
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also the Grand Architect didnt even apply her as a trailer as she leave
I never said that happened, I was theorizing
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his line literaly said "seperation is an opening for posibilities"
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"I expect we'll find out later"
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I never said that happened, I was theorizing
no no i was saying in game not u
willow zephyr
as much i hate rover line way back when she said Phrolova didnt really understan...
Yeah maybe rover had a really good reason but from her perspective it's Just cruel
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Grand Architect didnt stop her from leaving, and seem like he more so willing
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Yeh I also interpreted it as him giving her his blessing to leave
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i feels like Rover was the founder of Fracsidus... and as fracsidus said and implying Rover was alot Cruel before the memory reset...
and Grand architect seem to agreed dat wat ever happen let it happen
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But that doesn't mean much, he can still have her labeled traitor while giving his blessing, the story writers would just need to find a reason for it
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cuz the closer seem like everything goes according to plan
willow zephyr
Tho they aren't the best People the members are free
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even tho we won
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i feels like Rover was the founder of Fracsidus... and as fracsidus said and imp...
Yeh some of the dialogue in 2.7 I thought directly implies that Rover founded the Fractsidus
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wat if we rover winning was part of the plan since the begining
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"We were once your beacons" or something like that, directly implies that Rover was allied with them in some way long ago
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Yeh some of the dialogue in 2.7 I thought directly implies that Rover founded th...
its 100% we were allied with them before not sure about founded yet cuz there still no confirmation
but we deffinatly on their side on previous run
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Or they were members of ancient Black Shore back when we were the leader, and they split off for whatever reason
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like Taces system said we tried so many attempt to stop the lemant
wat if Fracsidus is one of the attempt
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Or they were members of ancient Black Shore back when we were the leader, and th...
blackshore were new organization dat rover make
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I'm more curious about the GA's line "we were never truly on different paths" or something like that. I feel like there's implication that the Fractsidus are actually following some sort of set path and plan laid out by us in the distant past.
grave nebula
assuming fracsidus first then blackshore
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I'm more curious about the GA's line "we were never truly on different paths" or...
Iyup they sounds like everything move according to thier plan
willow zephyr
I think rover has tried to stop the lament in what ever way he could so he had tried many different plans formed different orginizations and finaly decided that he needed to start fresh and wiped hes memories
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maybe previous rover planned all dis
and tell Fracsidus to fight againt us no matter wat we say or do to them
willow zephyr
Or they were members of ancient Black Shore back when we were the leader, and th...
But then shorekeeper would know them right?
proper gust
lol at the possibility that the GA is secretly a good person and just playing the role of a villain cuz they know it's necessary for them to be "the bad guy" for the greater good. I think there was an anime that did something similar?
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yeh yeh wat i have in mid
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But then shorekeeper would know them right?
SK is not dat old
if we compared to rover
proper gust
Yup it was stated earlier in the story that Rover is millions of years old
grave nebula
maybe GA is way older then SK even if Blackshore is an org Rover made after leaving fracsidus and reset his memory
proper gust
Supposedly the Fractsidus is also a "newer" organization similar to Black Shore
But "newer" doesn't mean they haven't been around for a long time
Especially when thinking about how old Rover is
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yo imagine if there even older organization rover made before fracsidus and blackshore
dat be crazy
willow zephyr
I'm more curious about the GA's line "we were never truly on different paths" or...
The lament is what we are all fighting against but i think one of the 1.X quests told us something like the fracidus wants to cause it so we can start fresh after it's happend like idk a pheonix
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yeh feels like they trigger those thernodian on purposed so rover can shut it down
proper gust
That's my thought tho, ancient Black Shore and Fractsidus were one and the same, and at some point the organization split into the two
willow zephyr
SK is not dat old
Oh i know but she was there when we founded the black shores no?
grave nebula
That's my thought tho, ancient Black Shore and Fractsidus were one and the same,...
owhh my thought is both are never the same, frac came first.. rover reset memory make blackshore
proper gust
yeh feels like they trigger those thernodian on purposed so rover can shut it do...
Yup pre-planned as I am thinking. Notice how the Fractsidus specifically wait till we are arrived to suddenly hasten the Threnodian conflict?
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also makes me question why they let a new born thernodian very vissible to rover
both is Jingzhou and rinnacita
we killed/sealed both at its infant
proper gust
Jinzhou they could have acted during the Threnodian showdown three years ago, but they waited till now when Rover was in the picture. Rinascita the dark tide stuff sixteen years ago, nope waited till Rover shows up
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we killed/sealed both at its infant
Well not exactly. Ovathrax we get outright told ran away, so they are still around to be confronted again later.
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dats 2 thernodian we sealed up before its fully born/matured
willow zephyr
I mean some of that is Just plot
proper gust
But we also now have it pretty much openly told to us that ||Abby is a threnodian||
willow zephyr
They didn't or couldn't cuz plot
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yeh its implying something
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But we also now have it pretty much openly told to us that ||Abby is a threnodia...
my thought he's based of ||Abbracsas the god of all god||
but idk if in WuWa its ||a god or a thernodian||
proper gust
||Leviathan's comment to Abby and referring to them by a specific name implied it already. But I think what really confirms it is Aalto's little comment later about a threnodian being turned to the side of good like is done with echoes.||
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cuz like methology inspired stuff like Raiden baal in genshin... potrayed as god.. yet in IRL it was a Demon
willow zephyr
Doesn't really need to be tied to rover but from what i remember they want to cause the lament but they knew we would stop it so they have now made a plan where they can become the threnodians resonator and probably cause the lament
That seems to be the whole point of their plans untill now
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yeh possible
cuz wat GA said at the end of 2.7 pretty much confirmed it
they testing to make a theronodian resonator
and 2nd awakening also happen which is wat they wanted... which is galbrena going overclock and able to control it fully
its like an exsperiment sounds like
proper gust
Well the thing about threnodians is that they are all sorta conceptual entities, aspects of humanity personified. Therefore I think it's more likely that ||Abby isn't so much a "threnodian turned good" as they are a "threnodian representing a positive aspect of humanity"||
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it makes me wonder how much all these was set up preplanned
willow zephyr
Abby also has 3 tacit marks
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cuz we been running off script more then once already
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yeh 2 in eyes 1 on forhead
proper gust
and 2nd awakening also happen which is wat they wanted... which is galbrena goin...
I think the comments about 2nd awakening are actually referring to Jinhsi not Galbrena, if you remember that was the entire point of their presence in Mt. Firmament
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also Galbrena with Rover scene ||when grabbing the Gem|| is 1 to 1 to abby
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I think the comments about 2nd awakening are actually referring to Jinhsi not Ga...
i feels like they talkign about galbrena cuz the order he listed it
cuz only galbrene is able to do dat and seal the thernodian within her
willow zephyr
What if abby is a threnodian that mixed with a sentinel and leviatan Just noticed that abby had the threnodians frequency not actualy recognized him
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which is wat the frac is looking for
if the theory to stop teh lemant is becoming the main thernodian resonator... so galbrena is the first resonator who showing potential dat able to do it
willow zephyr
They wanna cause the lament not stop it
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Jue also didnt know about Abby which is suprising
willow zephyr
Their goal is to have humanity rise from the ashes after the lament
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wat if Abby was the big bad theornodian dat already succeeeded being sealed in Rover and we on the next setp to seal the rest
proper gust
Thus far, both threnodians we've faced have embodied aspects of humanity that in of themselves aren't necessarily bad; both conflict and unity drive humanity to better itself, but in both cases the threnodian served as a dark reflection of that drive. Which has me wondering if ||Abby is somehow embodying some aspect that can't really be twisted into a dark reflection||?
willow zephyr
I think they have been doing research on how to cause the lament to happen but knew they wouldn't be able to stop us stopping it so they have now made a plan they think we won't be able to stop in time
willow zephyr
Thus far, both threnodians we've faced have embodied aspects of humanity that in...
Idk if there is such a thing
grave nebula
I think they have been doing research on how to cause the lament to happen but k...
i think dat was the plan
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feels like the frac is setting up the stage and we the actors of the play
proper gust
I mean People would like to say love i'm sure
Love can also be twisted into a dark reflection tho.
I think this patch story kinda gave it away tho with the whole "harbinger" thing
willow zephyr
Yup thus the gif
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which is ironic the gif he sent fits the dark reflection of love
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I think this patch story kinda gave it away tho with the whole "harbinger" thing
true they all love riinacita
they wanna save it
proper gust
I think ||Abby is the threnodian of hope, and since hope can't really be twisted, they are, by nature, a "good threnodian"||
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I think ||Abby is the threnodian of hope, and since hope can't really be twisted...
idk about ||"good"|| but i wont appoased it if its turn out dat way
willow zephyr
People can hope for bad things to happen no?
grave nebula
i mean i do dat all the time
we all human after all
like u hope for the opposing side to lose and trouble fall apon them... tru their POV u are the villian
so we all one of the same
proper gust
People can hope for bad things to happen no?
I feel like that's wishing rather than hoping. When the term "hope" gets used in these sorts of stories, it's in a specific form that entails humanity's refusal to just lay down and give up
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yeh also wat cinnamon said is usually how "Hope" being use in storytelling
proper gust
It's always presented as this sort of infallable "good" trait immune to being utilized in a negative way
willow zephyr
I feel like that's wishing rather than hoping. When the term "hope" gets used in...
True
proper gust
So any threnodian that represents hope, would by nature have to be "good"
willow zephyr
Honestly u might be right i can't think of a way to twist it
grave nebula
So any threnodian that represents hope, would by nature have to be "good"
personally i dont see it happening but im down to see it if they can write it
im more so thought the old clihie one
abby turn big bad baddy in the end bla bla bla
the most basic writing plot
willow zephyr
Anyway I was suposed to try to sleep almost 4 hours ago
grave nebula
most basic plot twitst
proper gust
abby turn big bad baddy in the end bla bla bla
I really hope they don't go that route. "Abby is secretly bad" and "Abby use to be bad but is now good for some contrived reason" are both crazy overused and cliche.
grave nebula
Anyway I was suposed to try to sleep almost 4 hours ago
sorry for keeping u awake with all these theory crafting then
willow zephyr
Got no plans tomorrow is fine
grave nebula
I really hope they don't go that route. "Abby is secretly bad" and "Abby use to ...
not "secretly bad"... im more so want abby to be "Used to be bad" and now he trying to fix it
proper gust
The idea that there is a threnodian that just is naturally positive, is something fresh I think, and could serve the story in an interesting way, especially thinking about how certain parties like the fractsidus may desire to try and harness such an entity for nefarious purposes.
In the eyes of other threnodians tho, one that isn't a twisted reflection of their concept would be a traitor even if that's their nature.
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i cant even predict how the writing will goes, cuz the frac pretty much are team Luna (the Ascendant) in PGR appear as bad guys but they are the good guys who know the truth and doing it in thier own way to combat it
proper gust
But we also have heavily implication in the game that Rover is the progenitor resonator, so Abby may also be something else entirely
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yeah dat also true
proper gust
I've also seen the theory that Abby is the Goddess
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now dats a wild one i dont want dat hot goddess now turn into abby im good
proper gust
Then again, the Goddess being the threnodian of hope, representation of humanity's good future and continued existence, makes sense I suppose
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also dat goddess appear in senora thingi when we get imperator final message
proper gust
They also were shown in that lab in Jinzhou, in a holographic form iirc?
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Then again, the Goddess being the threnodian of hope, representation of humanity...
dat Goddess is Lucia... and idk WTF WuWa plannig to write her
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They also were shown in that lab in Jinzhou, in a holographic form iirc?
yeh in MSQ we meet teh hologram
Wonder if Abby are inspired by or direct reference from Alpha (Lucia)
proper gust
Oh the same heterochromia lol
But this is also Kuro not Hoyo, I dunno if they heavily utilize expy's in their games
grave nebula
Lucia and Alpha are seperate entity now..
but both share the same childhood and memory... but seperated by the path they taken
but they are the same person at start
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But this is also Kuro not Hoyo, I dunno if they heavily utilize expy's in their ...
i mean Galbrena is in PGR
just in diffrent name
proper gust
Expy, or the literal same character using an alias?
grave nebula
the WuWa goddes literally Lucia
proper gust
I dunno who Lucia is
proper gust
Oh the first girl with the same bangs and eyes?
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all of these are Lucia and stay as Lucia
proper gust
Yeh, she has the same eye colour and bangs
Hair colour is different, hair is also not in pigtails. So prolly an expy yeh
I guess expy's are common in these chinese gachas
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all of these are Lucia and stay as Lucia
this is also Lucia but she supposed to die in 1st form (top left in 1st pic) here... but she survive and becoming Alpha
Lucia biggest enemy is herself
but strongger
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Hair colour is different, hair is also not in pigtails. So prolly an expy yeh
dat just her swapping to multiple frames so yeh hair change alot (easiest example is like ironman but Tony is a brain not a person u can swap body to which body u want depending on combat situation)
WuWa goddess pretty mucch 1 to 1 with Lucia first original form
its a bit too weird for it to be coincidence cuz she is the poster girl of PGR
never relized Gashu lin was Watanabe
dats even scarier now knowing how strong he is
proper gust
Oh btw anyone still working on that "vampire slayer" or whatever it is event, Ciaccona is fucking obscenely busted, with proper setup you can literally just stand in the center of the arena and afk nuke everything
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havent done it yet but ty for the info... i shall cheat my tru with dat
proper gust
She's rough for the first like two rounds but once you get her correctly set up she'll nuke everything in a gigantic radious around her so you just stand there and do nothing and everything dies
proper gust
Obviously a bit rng because it randomly offers you two weapons to pick from each time, but if you can get Explosive Omen as one of them then you'll pretty much just be able to stand there just nuking everything in a huge area around you.
proper gust
Oh I just realized, Buling is our first Electro healer yes? And with her we'll finally have a healer for every element?
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she's a bird
lime bear
time gated in MSQ in blue protocol again wtf and it's after playing the game for an hour
Also they installed kernel level anti cheat which s not in the patch notes
lime bear
XD
lime bear
dont tempt me
we know you will get at least one of them XD
grave nebula
i wont
junior arch
Waking up and having to scroll down 300 message to get to the bottom, lol not even going to attempt to know what was posted
junior arch
Ahh I have some new question now that has me curious about Abby and rover's relationship now that I hope get explored soon after last msq
lime bear
It's kind of funny how my lvl 7 talents Jinshi is still dealing more damage than my lvl 10 talents Cammy and Roccia XD
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proper gust
Waking up and having to scroll down 300 message to get to the bottom, lol not ev...
Sorry bout that, we got a little carried away with the theorizing, cuz this patch gave a lot of good food for thought.
lime bear
aite im forced to get married agane
My condolences
willow zephyr
without context this isn't to spoilery right?
i don't think any major plot points was featured
asking cuz i'd like to show off the accents in a vid subs
all the accents is why i love EN in wuwa
rugged sand
aite im forced to get married agane
game?
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PGR