we're not thaaaaat back
#YO ANYONE DOWN FOR DND ON NON-STREAM NIGHTS?
lofty warren
just send tiamat
proud pebble
This is the most stringently I'm following the book so if you die, it's your fault and the book's fault
lofty warren
i have zeus that s Challenge 28 
proud pebble
Acerack is CR23 but comes at the end of a 6 layer mega dungeon
umbral osprey
i came across a CR60 dracolich on some homebrew page 
i was like.... how the fuck do you even fight that
fucking wow raid type shit
lofty warren
there are homebrew riles for lvlup beyond lvl 20
proud pebble
and the party is only gonna be lv11/12 when they fight him
umbral osprey
we aint fighting him if we can help it LUL
proud pebble
It's funny that you think you have a choice
lofty warren
umbral osprey
darvin is just gonna one tap him with the holy avenger anyways 
umbral osprey
xan doesnt even get half way i hope i roll good on the next couple levels in HP
or i can just counter spell it 
umbral osprey
thats a thing?
proud pebble
of course that's a thing XD
lofty warren
someone needs to get a wish
umbral osprey
counterspells all of cannon's counterspells
proud pebble
Acererak can cast counterspell without needing a spell slot
umbral osprey
buh
lofty warren
worst thing dm can do is counterspell the players healing spell
umbral osprey
cannon has done that
umbral osprey
we'll just have to find the phalactary and blackmail him with it
proud pebble
heh good luck
lofty warren
cannon has done that <:potastLOL:814620715859836938>
proud pebble
his phalactary isn't even within the scope of this campaign
umbral osprey
wait doesnt that mean we straight up cannot kill him right?
umbral osprey
he'll just come back within the day no?
proud pebble
1D10 days
lofty warren
yea you need to stock up on wish spells
umbral osprey
and then we'll have a very pissed off lich coming at us
we wont even get to that level tho
lofty warren
the deck can save you 🙂 i once pulled a wish spell card and got 3 on my first day of dnd
umbral osprey
like pure casters of which we have 2 , are only going to have lvl 6 spells by the max
proud pebble
they definitly aren't getting the deck of many things
proud pebble
just btw, you know for context
Acererak is the one who killed the 9 trickster gods
just so you know
umbral osprey
spoilers
umbral osprey
i mean i had a theory that it was whatever is suck in the pillar and they died sealing it
pastel idol
I made a gloomstalker character that has +13 in initiative, can't be surprised, is permanently invisible while in darkness, and can shoot at 600 range with no disadvantage
lofty warren
well all you left is divine intervention or find a devils chihuahua 🙂
pastel idol
pastel idol
I made a gloomstalker character that has +13 in initiative, can't be surprised, ...
and it flies
umbral osprey
aizo will have divine intervention thankfully
proud pebble
Aizo does have divine intervention
lofty warren
I made a gloomstalker character that has +13 in initiative, can't be surprised, ...
thats not bad. but when you can see everything it ruins dms traps and other stuff as you can just see everything 🙂
lofty warren
i see those moves before even he does them
proud pebble
umbral osprey
any CC with a charisma save: exists
yaromir: 💀
neat dust
proud pebble
I could succeed 
pastel idol
can i have this as an assassin?
it's a gloomstalker trait, ranger subclass
proud pebble
if you multiclass
lofty warren
warloc still can see in magical darkness 🙂 put darkness on yourself and chill 🙂
umbral osprey
no thats a ranger feature val , unless you play a ranger/rogue wich would probably be ass
pastel idol
only takes level three in ranger though
neat dust
ah so i can
pastel idol
no thats a ranger feature val , unless you play a ranger/rogue wich would probab...
it's actually part of the strongest combo in dnd
if you include fighter for action surge
neat dust
no thats a ranger feature val , unless you play a ranger/rogue wich would probab...
i'll figure it out somehow
maybe
probably
pastel idol
gloomstalker subclass/assassin subclass/fighter for action surge
neat dust
next char i'll try that and start as ranger just so i can try that first and then go into rogue
proud pebble
arguably it's only the strongest combo in BG3
I've found it underwhelming in D&D proper
proud pebble
lets you take an additional action
umbral osprey
basically gives you another action
neat dust
ah i see
pastel idol
next char i'll try that and start as ranger just so i can try that first and the...
don't, start as rogue for the proficiencies
neat dust
oh i won't get that when i multiclass?
proud pebble
multiclassing is weird tbh
neat dust
what proficiencies does a ranger get?
pastel idol
rogue gets to choose 4 from whatever it wants, where other classes get 2 specific at best
rogue also at 1st level gets "expertise" which doubles two of those proficiencies
umbral osprey
techincally you do get some prof when you muticlass just not as much as taking your base class
neat dust
i gave my self expert in acrobatics but i'v been thinking maybe it's not the best decision i'v made
it's helped me atleast once tho
pastel idol
oh i was just about to ask don't u get to chose
ranger gets to choose three from among "Animal Handling, Athletics, Insight, Investigation, Nature, Perception, Stealth, and Survival"
but no slight of hand, for examble
proud pebble
techincally you do get some prof when you muticlass just not as much as taking y...
honestly kinda feels like Yaromir leaning towards paladin recently, maybe that's just the Bulwurk playstyle tho
neat dust
yes i think rogue is more my kind of class atm 
umbral osprey
honestly kinda feels like Yaromir leaning towards paladin recently, maybe that's...
you cant become a paladin with 4 cha
proud pebble
not with that attitude
neat dust
i need slight of hand so that i can "borrow" stuff from "willing donors"
pastel idol
proud pebble
you cant become a paladin with 4 cha <:potastLOL:814620715859836938>
pretty sure the only class I can multiclass into with my current stats is barbarian
umbral osprey
makese sense
neat dust
so if i want the assassin/gloomstalker combo i start rogue and then get ranger or do i get assassin before i get ranger?
proud pebble
honestly tho, Ancestral guardian Barb/Bulwurk fighter would slap
neat dust
looking at my char sheet
why does it say i have total 2d8 hit dice?
but in the big thingy it only says 1d8
neat dust
wait i'm suposed to have more?
umbral osprey
its one for every level val
umbral osprey
oh wait yeah we're lvl4 now i forgor
neat dust
and should the big box still say 1d8?
umbral osprey
the big box is how many you've used , which i think you didnt use any so just stays at 4d8
proud pebble
now Justan really can't kill me
neat dust
what is this for?
umbral osprey
if we take a short rest you can roll some of them to heal yourself val 
and you get half of them back on a long rest
umbral osprey
yeah we'er low after this fight honestly might wanna take one
proud pebble
yeah we'er low after this fight honestly might wanna take one <:potastLOL:814620...
*you were low
umbral osprey
all of us but you
neat dust
concidering i have max 22 health i can fully heal on a short rest if i'm lucky
proud pebble
I'm still well above half
neat dust
does long rest reset my hit dice?
proud pebble
at 37 out of 53
neat dust
and if we level up i get all of them back plus the new one?
neat dust
so they are temporary?
neat dust
ah so i get half back and just need to keep taking long rests to get all of them back?
neat dust
next session i could really use a rest long or short
proud pebble
technically if you gain half back then you never get all of them back as the amount you regain infinity shrinks but never fully reaches max 
umbral osprey
same , i am on 4 hp
neat dust
1hp here
umbral osprey
technically if you gain half back then you never get all of them back as the amo...
infinte task looking ass , but thankfully D&D rounds
neat dust
u flick my forehead and i'll crumble
proud pebble
time for Yaromir's totally unforseen turn on the party as all of them are low health
umbral osprey
i think even if we were full HP you'd win that fight
proud pebble
nah
neat dust
only if he can hit us
proud pebble
you'd action economy me to death
umbral osprey
we wont be able to hit your 21 AC
proud pebble
I wouldn't be able to catch you all, you'd out range and kill me with weight of dice
umbral osprey
huh apparently i roll 21 or above 30% of the time on hit , not as bad as i thought
neat dust
and me and zowo have silvery barb to make u reroll 
neat dust
i'll cast tashas laughter first turn i get
proud pebble
he has no spells rn
umbral osprey
oh rn you'd stomp us easy , i am thinking about like full resource to full resource
neat dust
we have a chance if he doesn't go first
proud pebble
most of Yaromir's build is about being tanky and protecting you guys
if he's by himself, he loses a lot of his power
neat dust
yaromir is there to babysit us
neat dust
i would probably be dead already so i apreciate it
next combat i'll remember to disengage and not just stand there
umbral osprey
someone's gotta keep y'all alive
yeah that last fight we'd have all died without you lol
neat dust
tiefling had to be tanky 
i got to put alot of dmg into the fucker but i didn't get to kill him
umbral osprey
val you got a max damage crit you're probably not getting another in your life
neat dust
atleast i got to see him die but also not really cuz i was down
proud pebble
I get max damage crits lots of the time
neat dust
i'm lucky i'm sure i can make it happen again
umbral osprey
its also only going to get harder when we get more sneak attack die
neat dust
i get even more dmg 
umbral osprey
which is next level iirc? we get 3d6 instead of 2
umbral osprey
i get even more dmg <:potastOmegasp:814620717819363330>
if you put all your levels into rouge you'll end up at 6d6 sneak attack bonus for this campaign
neat dust
so we get to play again next weekend?
proud pebble
assuming nothing come up
umbral osprey
if you put all your levels into rouge you'll end up at 6d6 sneak attack bonus fo...
on a crit this will be 89 damage
but
thats a
1 in 933120
so good fucking luck
neat dust
what if i train a beetle to "accidentaly" flip my dice over?
oh no it's a 2... oh wait it's moving "on it's own"
umbral osprey
1 in 933120
if you rolled all the die once a second this will take you 10.8 days
neat dust
6
umbral osprey
oh no it's a 2... oh wait it's moving "on it's own"
just get weighted dice at that point
neat dust
so that would make it 50/50 for 6 or 1?
umbral osprey
well no
physics is more complicated than that
but it makes it less of a "fair" dice , but thats cheating
umbral osprey
if you want to know if dice is weighted or no just put it in salty water and see if it always floats to the same number
a blanced die should float to a random number each time
neat dust
why salty?
umbral osprey
increases the density of the water so the dice doesnt sink
neat dust
umbral osprey
ever noticed that its easier to swim in the sea than in a pool? same effect
neat dust
i don't think mine are weighted cuz my friend at the time bought it at a place that sells alot of board game stuff
neat dust
ever noticed that its easier to swim in the sea than in a pool? same effect
i have not 
insecurity has made me not swim alot and when i did i wasn't to fond of sea cuz it sells weird
umbral osprey
takes val swimming in the north sea and then we both die of hypothermia
neat dust
this is somewhat common
less common durring winter but some people still jump in only to rush out
like less intense ice bathing
umbral osprey
ice bathing? 
neat dust
yes they cut a hole in the ice and go in
seen short vids of russians doing it and it ending poorly
neat dust
they go fully under letting go and gets swept by the current
neat dust
why are northeners like this
weird traditions cuz of extreme enviorments
this dnd talk has helped my mood a little thank u 
proud pebble
Good argument except it's UA
violet cave
UA is fair game in my campaign 
violet cave
Aizo, is this your way of saying you want to join?
Because yes Gloom stalkers are fair game
pastel idol
pastel idol
Aizo, is this your way of saying you want to join?
I mean, it could be a chance for me to actually try that redemption paladin
but I don't want to intrude too much on you all peepo's fun 
proud pebble
I mean, it could be a chance for me to actually try that redemption paladin
but ...
isn't the issue also that the Kavenor campaign starts at like 5am for you?
pastel idol
I wake up at 4am anyway, just have to schedule my mornings accordingly 
proud pebble
proud pebble
gnai
sudden frost
Wait, we get to play with RMB sometime? The fabled Right Mouse Button of renown?
violet cave
yes
violet cave
I mean, it could be a chance for me to actually try that redemption paladin
but ...
if you join and provide healing
i too will escalate the difficulty
neat dust
pastel idol
if you join and provide healing
proud pebble
<@&1248006648744902809> if Jeannie is taking time off in mid May, are we down for an extra session or two that week? 16th to 19th?
umbral osprey
i am in
violet cave
im in
umbral osprey
19th is a monday , so maybe 16th? would be a friday
umbral osprey
yep
proud pebble
can discuss properly tomorrow of course
spice bobcat
too early for me to say
pastel idol
proud pebble
pastel idol
pastel idol
@proud pebble can "holy weapon" be used on natural weapons?
proud pebble
as is beast claws?
proud pebble
yeah, probably not
spice bobcat
<@&1248006648744902809> as of right now I won't be able to play tonight. some idiot that was helping my aunt change her bathtub broke her cold water line and connected it to her hot water line so it wouldn't leak so now they have no hot water in their house. dunno how long it'll take me to fix but she's panicking cuz they have two babies and 4 adults with nothing but cold water so that's my priority for now.
scarlet crescent
No worries, take care of what you need and I hope everything gets resolved
umbral osprey
sooooo are we playing or cancelling since necro wont come? 
violet cave
otw in 10
umbral osprey
@pastel idol you awake?
spice bobcat
y'all kill me off yet?
proud pebble
nope
violet cave
sudden frost
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eH-9cMM14j4
umbral osprey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnt_NUeLgK4
you when we were playing with the smiling tankard
umbral osprey
aizo is realizing how much power she has over us we're fucked
pastel idol
umbral osprey
Thoughts?
I feel like the existence of magic missile kinda makes the wizards insta win
pastel idol
the fighter is an eldritch knight, and uses shield on their first attempt at magic missiles
ancient sun
violet cave
100 lvl 1 wizards could just pelt spells that do not need an attack roll
The fighter can only kill 3 wizards max at a time, 6 if he action surges
He has at best 30 turns before he dies
umbral osprey
100 lvl 1 wizards could just pelt spells that do not need an attack roll
Yeah but with how many ASIs fighters get his saves are probably going to be pretty damn good no?
violet cave
He can't have all his stats buffed
Even if he say, has proficiencies in all his stats
He would be buried down by numbers
Aizo 's comment about shield won't even matter if he gets hit with shocking grasp, which is a cantrip with advantage against plate armor
He then has no reactions to all the magic missiles flung his way
pastel idol
Aizo 's comment about shield won't even matter if he gets hit with shocking gras...
shocking grasp is a spell attack, so would still need to beat his armour class
a level 20 eldritch knight easily has 25+ ac, without the shield reaction
the wizards at level 1 would have to all roll natural 20 just to hit 
proud pebble
don't forget that if they have to use a melee cantrip then they don't all get to attack per turn, it'd be limited to 9 at maz (depending on DM)
so maybe hit once per turn for 1d8x2 dmg
he could quickly kill off 16 in two turns
after that it's kill 4 per turn
that's 21 turns to kill them all
that means he takes about 200 damage from the wizards
which with second wind means the fighter probably wins
pastel idol
would be fun to make a cavalier fighter as well
mounted fighting
what mounts can you choose from? @proud pebble @violet cave
could I ride a dragon turtle as a mount?
proud pebble
well Volgos rides a slightly floating sea creature with the stats of a warhorse
pastel idol
yee but that's with "find steed", the cavalier fighter subclass doesn't list anything regarding your mount
only that you're good at riding mounts, and have advantages for doing so
obviously with a dragon turtle, it wouldn't be mature at the start of a campaign
like with drake riders for rangers
proud pebble
I would allow pretty much anything and then give it the stats of something reasonable
pastel idol
tortle cavalier fighter, riding dragon turtle in combat
or a fighter of an "order of the turtle" that really likes turtles
violet cave
I had a paladin with a direwolf as a mount
violet cave
don't forget that if they have to use a melee cantrip then they don't all get to...
Lvl 1 wizards spell list is huge though, it would have to be a kiting game
You are right tho, the moment any wizard is in melee range they're doomed
proud pebble
I think that even if the fighter uses a bow, he still oneshots the wizards
I think it's very close
but I think the fighter just about wins
pastel idol
eldritch knight casts gravity sinkhole with himself as the point
all the wizards are now in melee of him, if not dead(who decided on 5d10 for that spell?!)
fighter uses whirlwind to spin arou-- oh wait, dnd has no way for a fighter to use cleaving attacks..
proud pebble
5d10 would easily kill a lv1 wizard
pastel idol
yeah
proud pebble
average of 7 or 8 hp most likely
pastel idol
20ft radius on a point of choosing within 120ft
pulls any missed rolls to it's center
proud pebble
doesn't even need to cast on himself then
just pick a spot where the wizards are clumped
pastel idol
eldritch knights are so cool to me
wizards/sorcerers with heavy armour and melee capabilities
just fewer spell slots
you can choose a giant owl as a mount for a cavalier?!
owlbear mount
pastel idol
@proud pebble technical question regarding the risk-averse trait
does the trait make me skittish, or would xopah still need to consider whatever was happening/posing a threat, to be a "risk"?
proud pebble
I would assume it's more that Xopah is less willing to run straight towards the danger because she might get hurt, maybe now she stands further back and heals from a distance
it's definitely up for interpretation tho
pastel idol
pastel idol
is it just me, or is the "contagion" spell a liiiitle bit overpowered?
proud pebble
yep, it's pretty good
pastel idol
two effects stand out, the first makes the target vulnerable to all damage for the duration, which lasts 7 days by the day
proud pebble
only if they fail 3 saves in a row tho
proud pebble
ok, yeah google gave me the 2024 version when I specifically searched for 5E 
umbral osprey
beyond always shows the 2024 stuff first
pastel idol
flesh rot seems strong, but semi permanent stun?
proud pebble
yep
umbral osprey
they still need to fail 3 con saves aiz
pastel idol
doesn't even get a save, just has to take damage
pastel idol
they still need to fail 3 con saves aiz
yeah
proud pebble
you do have to hit with a melee spell attack tho
umbral osprey
clerics get the smite spells no?
proud pebble
and if it's immune to poison or diseases then it wouldn't do anything
umbral osprey
not divine smite but the other ones
proud pebble
they get smite lite
pastel idol
clerics get the smite spells no?
no
umbral osprey
they dont get branding searing etc?
proud pebble
most of them get an extra D8 radient dmg on a weapon attack as a feature
I think war cleric gets searing smite
umbral osprey
ah
pastel idol
"divine strike" or "potent spellcasting" which add radiant damage to 1 attack or cantrip each turn 1d8, increasing with levels
all clerics get either divine strike, or potent spellcasting at level 8, with a 1d8 radiant damage
increasing to 2d8 at 15th level
umbral osprey
proud pebble
death clerics get it as necrotic damage
umbral osprey
makes sense
pastel idol
technically the "radiant" or "necrotic" is based on your alignment
if xopah were of evil alignment, it'd be necrotic for her as well
but can't be ilmater devotee and evil
umbral osprey
what were the tentants again? cuz if it has to do with just pain you can make a sadistic cleric that enjoys hurting people and themselves at once kinda like that one naruto char
pastel idol
<:pHmm:1103886679007305728> what were the tentants again? cuz if it has to do wi...
for ilmater?
umbral osprey
yeah
pastel idol
- "Help all who hurt, no matter who they are."
- "The truly holy take on the suffering of others."
- "If you suffer in his name, Ilmater is there to support you."
- "Stick to your cause if it is right, whatever the pain or peril."
- "There is no shame in a meaningful death."
- "Allow no injustice to go unchallenged."
- "Emphasize the spiritual nature of life over the existence of the material body."
umbral osprey
ah so it wouldnt work
proud pebble
actually, it's specified what type of damage it is in your divine domain
forge clerics get fire damage
proud pebble
well he can make a sword and give it a +1 blessing each day
umbral osprey
nothing will replace the family blade i was thinking that if we survive i can have xan take some of the rust and have someone reforge it into a new blade
pastel idol
nothing will replace the family blade <:potastDerp:814620719290777641> i was thi...
at 9th level I get access to 5th level spells, xopah and cullen can work together
cullen giving you a +1 sword, and xopah during fights enchanting it with holy weapon
ancient sun
ok, yeah google gave me the 2024 version when I specifically searched for 5E <:A...
Started doing that for me halfway making volgos. Holy shit it got me fucked up at times
umbral osprey
if cannon does run that lvl 17 thing ill homebrew some merge of these 2 and ask really nicely if i can have it
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Phalar_Aluve
https://dnd5e.wikidot.com/wondrous-items:moonblade
pastel idol
proud pebble
There may have been a little miscommunication with the statue trap tbh
it's basically just a giant magnet that disintegrates any metal that touches it
proud pebble
if cannon does run that lvl 17 thing ill homebrew some merge of these 2 and ask ...
heh, no
remember that you do get magic items as the reward for completing the adventure
ancient sun
There may have been a little miscommunication with the statue trap tbh
it's bas...
MAY HAVE?!??!?!?! Bro there WERE
proud pebble
oi, be nice
proud pebble
pweaaaaaaaaase <:potastDerp:814620719290777641>
no
umbral osprey
i wont give up
proud pebble
I'll keep saying no
umbral osprey
but at lvl 17 we're gonna be so op anyways that that wouldnt matter that much
darvin already has a +3 sword with upsides
pastel idol
what spell is it again that makes targets reduce their saving throws by a 1d4 when rolling?
proud pebble
Bane
pastel idol
bane the bbeg, hex constitution, bestow curse making them waste their action on a failed save
then contagion them making them get stunned on damage taken
proud pebble
legendary resistance
proud pebble
*that you know of
umbral osprey
we're all going to get deleted anyways even with your aid i am STILL under the power word kill breakpoint
proud pebble
he also gets to roll the save first and then decide to apply it
pastel idol
the bbeg is actually of god status, and replenishes all uses of legendary resistance on each of it's turns
proud pebble
but if you destroy the Soulmonger then Aizo could revivify you
pastel idol
we're all going to get deleted anyways <:potastLOL:814620715859836938> even with...
death ward would like to have a word
umbral osprey
like ill have to be holding counterspell for Powerword kill the entire time and even then he can counterspell my counterspell
umbral osprey
oh so even when i am dead hes gonna have infinte shields so the rest cant hit him great
thats assuming we even make it to him
proud pebble
I wouldn't go down the hole if you want to make it there
pastel idol
the party is down, only xopah is left
otherwordly form - immune to necrotic damage for a minute while I'm hitting him
upon it failing, xopah uses meld into stone and takes a long rest under the boss' nose, and tries again
proud pebble
for once, take the goddamn stairs
umbral osprey
jumps down the hole with featherfall
proud pebble
*boss also takes long rest, back to full hp and 9th level spells
it's very much worse for you guys if you skip levels in the dungeon
proud pebble
also if you skip levels then you won't gain as many levels
umbral osprey
even tho we're missing a host for the 9th one
pastel idol
casts forbiddance in preparation of fighting the boss
if it leaves combat when I take a long rest melding into stone, it takes 5d10 radiant damage each 6 seconds
what spell has the longest casting time?
hallow has 24 hours to cast
if we do reach level 12, I'll probably take the "tough" feat
that, or raise my wisdom by 2
violet cave
I would assume it's more that Xopah is less willing to run straight towards the ...
no more blender tortle 😦
pastel idol
umbral osprey
she can throw holy grenades instead aka guiding bolt
pastel idol
guiding bolt is pretty silly as well
first level spell that does 4d6 radiant damage, and that's ignoring the advantage it also gives the next attack
"level 1 cleric casually casting 4d6 spells"
umbral osprey
wait wtf why is it half a fireball worth of damage
proud pebble
because fuck you that's why
umbral osprey
i sometimes think Wizards decided the damage die of spells by throwing darts ngl
pastel idol
clerics are overpowered, we know this
peepos sometimes forget that clerics are also powerful spellcasters similar to wizards/sorcerers
the only difference being the spells are divine, instead of arcane
umbral osprey
spell damage in general makes no sense aizo fireball has more damage than most 5th level spells , guiding bolt outdos most 2nd level spells , etc
pastel idol
proud pebble
but if a cleric is doing damage then the party isn't getting healed
umbral osprey
you forget that the best CC is killing the enemy
proud pebble
point is that it's a choice the cleric has to make
either do damage or help the party
umbral osprey
also there are bonus action heals
proud pebble
raw you can't cast guiding bolt and a healing spell in the same turn
pastel idol
is why I'm always asking how hurt the party is, and that one time if beans could survive another turn
so I could use guardian spirits that turn, instead of healing
umbral osprey
raw you can't cast guiding bolt and a healing spell in the same turn
? whats stopping you
proud pebble
THE RULES
umbral osprey
yeah what rule
proud pebble
the ones in the book
umbral osprey
if the spell is a bonus action what rule are you violating
pastel idol
can't cast two spells a turn, unless one is a cantrip
umbral osprey
wait fr? first time i heard of that
proud pebble
it rarely comes up
pastel idol
is an immersion thing, since for spells you're supposed to be waving your hands around, chanting and stuff
a turn is only 6 seconds
umbral osprey
pastel idol
a few spells forego it with technicalities
for instance, aura of vitality is only a cast the first time you cast it
umbral osprey
so hasting a pure caster is like totally terrible huh
pastel idol
the folowing turns, you use a bonus action to make the spell "flare up" to heal a chosen target
so not casting it the following turns
umbral osprey
i guess
proud pebble
it's not useless
umbral osprey
its much worse than the fighter getting to hit 6 times a turn tho
or the paladin getting to smite 4 times
pastel idol
I'll just "holy weapon" the hasted fighter, get in 2d8 x 6 extra damage per their turn
umbral osprey
i wonder if you can stack holy weapon and magic weapon
i figured out how xan is gonna replace his sword since cannon is being mean and he wont give me a new one ill just take shadowblade from magical secrets at lvl 12
proud pebble
woah woah woah
I never said you couldn't have a new sword
I just said you couldn't have THAT sword
umbral osprey
fair
i think the shadowblade would outperform anything you'll willingly give me anyways , also i can flavour it as him somehow manifesting the sword back into existence
proud pebble
it can't fly tho
umbral osprey
it can smack really fucking hard
pastel idol
once I hit level 10, first thing I'll do is attempt divine intervention, and have ilmater manifest me a devotee's censer
umbral osprey
like ill cast it at 5th level and ill be doing 10d8 + 12 a turn
and then i take haste as my other magical secrets spell and i do 20d8 + 24 a turn , even more with florishes 
proud pebble
not how the damage scaling works on shadow blade
proud pebble
it's 4D8 at 5th level
umbral osprey
alright , 16d8 + 24
pastel idol
<:potastDerp:814620719290777641> alright , 16d8 + 24
enchants your shadowblade with holy weapon, adding 2d8 per attack
umbral osprey
averaging 90 damage a turn
proud pebble
you're assuming you're allowed into melee with the enemies
ancient sun
My char seems like shit compared to what yall got
umbral osprey
*enchants your shadowblade with holy weapon, adding 2d8 per attack*
with this ill average 114 damage a turn
umbral osprey
My char seems like shit compared to what yall got
this is me at lvl 12 , you'll get stronger
ancient sun
I made my char based on pure stupid
ancient sun
U really think i can make it strong
pastel idol
My char seems like shit compared to what yall got
paladins are extremely powerful too
ancient sun
Wait till u see my steed i can use in battle
Its so stupid
Whatever you think it is, it most likely isnt it
pastel idol
also, I haven't done anything special with xopah; she's a life cleric, that is it
literally
clerics just be cleric'ing
umbral osprey
life clerics are just op
ancient sun
I wanted to have my guy be kinda a self sustain type
With decent dmg
Idk if its gonna work but we'll see
pastel idol
I wanted to have my guy be kinda a self sustain type
heavy armour, shield, aura of protection
xopah is forever worse than she could be if she wren't a tortle
tortle's can't wear armour but have natural armor at 17ac
heavy armour goes to 18
so my ac will forever be 1ac less than it could be
but I wanted to be a tortle
ancient sun
I mean... Cannon did tell me i could have the best heavy armour
But i chose the 2nd best
Cuz of what i wanted my char to sorta look like
Also plate felt kinda off on a triton cuz how the fuck you gonna swim fast in that
umbral osprey
walk on the sea floor
pastel idol
how much charisma did volgos have?
xopah will just stay close to darvin and volgos, never lose concentration
ancient sun
My mod is +2
But i really thought that buff used the character-in-need's charisma
Anywho, you wont keep up with my steed and at best 120ft movement or something in one round of combat
umbral osprey
btw this is what i am doing with xan if we actually do that lvl 17 stuff
9: blank (bard:7 , wiz:2)
10: ASI +2 dex (bard:8 , wiz:2)
11: blank (bard:9, wiz:2)
12: D10 insp , magical secrets , more experties (bard:10 , wiz:2)
13: fighting style: defence , second wind (bard:10 , wiz:2 , fighter:1)
14: Action surge (bard:10 , wiz:2 , fighter:2)
15: 3 manuvers , 4d8 superiority die (bard:10 , wiz:2 , fighter:3)
16: ASI +2 int (bard:10 , wiz:2 , fighter:4)
17: blank (bard:10 , wiz:2 , fighter:5)
pastel idol
btw this is what i am doing with xan if we actually do that lvl 17 stuff <:potas...
9: cleric 9
10: cleric 10
11: cleric 11
12: cleric 12 - tough feat
13: cleric 13
14: cleric 14
15: cleric 15
16: cleric 16 ASI +2 wisdom
17: cleric 17(access to supreme healing)
(18: cleric 18
19: cleric 19 - ASI +2 constitution)
umbral osprey
umbral osprey
i like getting more options as i level and D&D doesnt have many when you go up to high levels in the class
ancient sun
After lvl 20 cleric xopah can go into paladin
pastel idol
the one thing I could do is put a single level into paladin or fighter for the fighting style
picking "interception"
I would take "defense" fighting style, but it requires wearing armour, which tortles cannot
umbral osprey
interception fits xopah better tbh
pastel idol
would also give me a reaction, which life clerics otherwise don't have access to
beyond opportunity attacks
umbral osprey
there are no cleric reaction spells?
umbral osprey
pastel idol
true
needed warcaster as my first feat, since it allows for spellcasting even while holding a shield
umbral osprey
pastel idol
could be rogue/trickery domain cleric
but at that point, might as well just be arcane trickster rogue
if I forego the feat at level 12, I technically have the possibility to multiclass into something
since a feat is the only thing I get at level 12
I would like to get the tough feat though
also, I like the idea of being pure cleric
umbral osprey
yeah i have narrative reasons for my multiclasses the 2 levels of wizard were my education as a kid , then after my family manor burnt down i spent my days as a traveling minstrel and after the hell we go through in the tomb ill go get official fighting training
pastel idol
also since I get 6th level spells already starting at 11
and 12 adds no additional spellslots compared to 11
pastel idol
yeah i have narrative reasons for my multiclasses <:potastDerp:81462071929077764...
xopah fully plans to throw her life away to achieve the goal of ending the death curse
though she won't simply lay down her life unless required
"there is no shame in a meaningful death"
embodying the ideals of ilmater
pastel idol
- "Help all who hurt, no matter who they are."
- "The truly holy take on the suf...
praying to ilmater everyday is part of being a cleric of ilmater
every night she goes through all the tenets over and over, though she does so in the celestial tongue
umbral osprey
wrong channel aizo
pastel idol
signal locust
umbral osprey
aizo summoned you into the wrong channel
pastel idol
deletes all channels except one
umbral osprey
utter chaos insues
pastel idol
life cleric also gets "supreme healing" at level 17, so any multiclassing would delay that
and any multiclassing more than 3 would deny it
"supreme healing" makes all healing heal the maximum amount it possibly could, always
so like a 1d8 is always 8
violet cave
*deletes all channels except one*
April fools prank
proud pebble
bro this is why I got confused with shield master
it's the fucking BG3 version I was thinking of
umbral osprey
why did BG3 buff that feat its already OP
umbral osprey
@proud pebble for the next intro , just so i am fair to everyone
proud pebble
I feel like I could find worse tbh
ancient sun
<@390914571453464578> for the next intro <:potastLOL:814620715859836938> , just ...
Then would her pumping it be sort of like remaking the red sea?
umbral osprey
zowo that was not an invite to discussion
proud pebble
your intro proves that you shouldn't be talking about milk
ancient sun
dont bring shit like that up if u dont want me discussin said thing
ancient sun
your intro proves that you shouldn't be talking about milk
Yeah, kinda does
Anyway, cya lil' buggers im goin to bed
violet cave
any1 got a clip
umbral osprey
its 6 mins , you'll have to watch the vod
proud pebble
clip is 30 seconds
violet cave
AH right
proud pebble
any1 got a clip
starts at approx 55 minutes in
violet cave
i see it!
proud pebble
still don't like hearing my voice
pastel idol
bro this is why I got confused with shield master
to be fair, they nerfed the enhanced dex saving throw though to just be +2
where actual dnd is your shield's ac mod- so can go to +5
umbral osprey
your voice is better than my constant voice cracks
pastel idol
bg3's shield master protects against failures, dnd's shield master expects you to succeed
proud pebble
proud pebble
your voice is better than my constant voice cracks <:potastLOL:81462071585983693...
doesn't mean I like mine tho
umbral osprey
no one likes to hear thier voice because you're used to hear it echo through your skull
pastel idol
if you're a level 6 paladin with 20 dexterity, and shield master
you got a +15 dexterity saving throw to not take damage
umbral osprey
why would a pally ever have 20 dex rouge multiclass?
smiting on a sneak attack does sound fun
pastel idol
well, not technically 15 unless legendary shield, but easily +13
violet cave
why would a pally ever have 20 dex <:potastLOL:814620715859836938> rouge multicl...
because unironically, a paladin with a rapier and shield in leather armor can out AC a plate armor Paladin
pastel idol
xopah only have 12 dex(+1), but with ring of protection and shield master
she now rolls dex saves as if she had 20 dex
umbral osprey
can you get experties in a saving throw?
pastel idol
not in saving throws I don't think
umbral osprey
pastel idol
my gloomstalker has +11 in stealth checks, and is straight up invisible while in darkness that is too dark to see
she also has dark vision herself, up to 150ft, can fly, and shoot without disadvantage at 150+ ft range
umbral osprey
and cannon calls me a power gamer
umbral osprey
you manage to make mono class builds look so op
proud pebble
why do you think I play mono-class
umbral osprey
because you're lazy to play multiple 
neat dust
your voice is better than my constant voice cracks <:potastLOL:81462071585983693...
i think both ur voices sound fine
whats is the worst or most difficult to play in dnd?
umbral osprey
1 level in every class
umbral osprey
if you have the stats for it yeah
you'd need 13 in every stat at least , but after that yep you can
neat dust
lets say u start as rogue and then multiclass u still get to increase ur health right?
umbral osprey
you'd get a hit die from the other class
most of them give you d8s like rogue does , but fighter and paladin get d10s and barbarian gets a d12
wizard gets a d6
umbral osprey
you wouldnt get any of the higher level bonuses , and you'd have a shit ton of resources to keep track of
neat dust
true
pastel idol
also no feats
umbral osprey
yeah
neat dust
so if i don't wanna do that what would be the worst/ hardest to play?
umbral osprey
cleric x wizard i guess they dont offer eachother literally anything except spell slots
pastel idol
pure barbarian with all stats being charisma/wisdom, with a personality trait that doesn't allow rage
neat dust
personality trait?
umbral osprey
thats just a monk that thinks hes a barbarian
pastel idol
<:KEKW:709973213299343381> thats just a monk that thinks hes a barbarian
but without the monk's unarmored defense, so no ac, low health, and no rage
neat dust
unrealted to the question but could u play a monk/barbarian with rage?
umbral osprey
yes but they conflict hard
pastel idol
unrealted to the question but could u play a monk/barbarian with rage?
you can, but their unarmored defense don't stack
monk wants high dex/wisdom, barbarian wants high strength/constitution
umbral osprey
and you'd need good str , wiz , dex and con normally you wanna build your character so it wants at most 3 stats
pastel idol
two main stats, rest into constitution
but you don't get to choose stats in dnd, is based on rolls
umbral osprey
well unless point buy
proud pebble
point buy is stupid
pastel idol
monks would choose their highest roll in dex, second highest in wisdom, and third highest in constitution
umbral osprey
the default point buy system is too restrictive i agree , but it can be fixed
neat dust
point buy?
pastel idol
for clerics you only really have one main stat, which is wisdom
but you do want some into strength so you can wear armour, and lots of clerics use melee weapons too
and then you want constitution anyways, because most clerics are half/half melee/caster
umbral osprey
point buy?
its basically a system were you get x amount of "points" to put into your stats , but they all start at like 8 so it prevents us from making chars that have really low stats in something which leads to funny things
like how yaromir has 4 cha cannot happen in point buy
pastel idol
does yaromir have any magic items? @proud pebble
umbral osprey
if the DM allows and the game is starting at a high enough level you can make a character cross over if its in the same universe
proud pebble
He has a silver sword and a font of endless ink
neat dust
like if u make a char and roll all ur stats like above 15 could u just copy that char over and change name for a different campaign untill it dies?
umbral osprey
He has a silver sword and a font of endless ink
and an expanding hat no?
pastel idol
do u allways have to make a new char for a campaign?
part of the fun of dnd is creating a character and giving them a backstory and such
but on rare occasion, you may join a campaign where the dm have pre-built characters to choose from
umbral osprey
like if u make a char and roll all ur stats like above 15 could u just copy that...
that'd be cheating
proud pebble
and an expanding hat no?
technically not magical
neat dust
that'd be cheating
so if i took my base character sheet for liger from before i leveled up i couldn't use that in a different campaign?
pastel idol
like if u make a char and roll all ur stats like above 15 could u just copy that...
also having good stats is not purely "good" in dnd
umbral osprey
so if i took my base character sheet for liger from before i leveled up i couldn...
yes , that cheating
pastel idol
losing, chaos, unexpected happenings- all part of what makes dnd fun
neat dust
i see
pastel idol
of course always losing can be annoying, but always winning can be equally not fun
is the unexpected chaos that makes dnd fun
pastel idol
i have lost
xopah's personality is such that she cares little for her own physical being
valueing the greater good, and the mission ilmater gave her far above her own self
but come the latest session, she is now afraid of taking risks, so will be fun
a lot of characters I make you'd notice has something that makes them worse than they could be, simply because it's fun
my redemption paladin is pretty difficult to hurt, and absorbs damage in place of her allies but-- she's a complete pacifist
she will never take the attack action
umbral osprey
i considered adding a "flaw" mechanic in my game , that would nerf one of your stats and buff another , while giving you a passive that fits but i decided against it
umbral osprey
she will *never* take the attack action
hold 2 shields
pastel idol
it doesn't have to be a straight up in-game flaw, can be self-imposed, or simply be something that isn't good for your class
a tortle cleric is a terrible pick for one, since can never wear armour, and will forever be less AC than it could have been
pastel idol
hold 2 shields <:potastLOL:814620715859836938>
can only benefit from one shield's effect at a time
pastel idol
I already need warcaster to be able to cast spells while wielding a shield
but it doubles as a good feature, in giving me advantage on concentration checks
umbral osprey
who needs spells when you have yes AC just stand in front of the enemies and say no to every attack
pastel idol
I already *need* warcaster to be able to cast spells *while* wielding a shield
this is for the sake of immersion by the way, since spells need you to wave your hands around
umbral osprey
i just realized... you made a paladin that DOESNT SMITE?
but thats the best part about playing a paladin
pastel idol
who needs spells when you have yes AC <:potastLOL:814620715859836938> just stand...
to be honest, clerics in dnd is much more "paladin'ish" than paladins;
paladins get their spells from their oath, not even faith in a deity
meanwhile clerics cloaking themselves in armour of absolute faith
standing on the frontlines, themselves a beacon of the divine word
umbral osprey
i dont like having the distinction in general tbh , a paladin is just a cleric thats trained in the arts of war
pastel idol
it's not even really "magic" clerics perform, but rather they're a beacon or prism of their deity's power
letting the miracles of their deity spread through themselves
proud pebble
paladins technically don't have to be religious whilst clerics do
most people just interpret paladins as being religious
umbral osprey
it just doesnt make sense that you can belive in an "oath" so much that you get powers
like if it was so easy literally everyone would make up an oath and get powers
pastel idol
paladins technically don't have to be religious whilst clerics do
most people ju...
hence oathbreaker paladins still have powers
if my redemption paladin were to ever take the attack action, she'd become an oathbreaker
proud pebble
it's the whole, because words have power in universe, if you say something and believe in it enough then reality starts to bend around it
umbral osprey
it's the whole, because words have power in universe, if you say something and b...
yeah but thats supposed to be giga hard, thats how powerwords work , which are 9th level
proud pebble
not many people have the level of faith either in themselves or in their words required
pastel idol
if I were to make a barbarian, I'd make a "beast" subclass barbarian
and make my partial animal transformation be an owl
violet cave
Owlin with ring of disguise self
You look like a normal human but then you take off the ring and rage
proud pebble
my Grim Hollow is delayed because of the tariffs in america 
proud pebble
proud pebble
now, which deadlock gameplay do I use for the intro of the next video 
ancient sun
the one where you ragdoll the most
violet cave
<@&1284336728831950879> we have D&D tonight in 7 hours of posting this message
sudden frost
On the subject of 1 lvl 20 character against 100 lvl 1s, the lvl1s of any sort often win. The problem is the number of nat 20s which cannot happen. In the scenario mentioned, 8 wizards could try to shocking grasp the Eldritch knight per round. And that means on average one of them would crit and succeed on round 2. The two approaches that occur to me are using mobility or bombarding your own position. Any spellcaster with expeditious retreat or a particularly mobile class (especially monk) could stay just out of range, fire, and then outrun their opponents. As long as you could outrun All of the enemy, the front runners can't hold an action to fire when you briefly pop into range, because they wouldn't be able to both hold an action and sprint. And as to bombarding your position, there are a bunch of wide aoe spells which even on a save would kill most level 1s every round (maybe 2 rounds for the half-orcs).
https://tenor.com/en-GB/view/konosuba-gif-25101707
ancient sun
nothing
violet cave
<@&1284336728831950879> get in nerds 
violet cave
@umbral osprey @pastel idol
neat dust
@umbral osprey
ancient sun
@umbral osprey
burnt sorrel
bois stop pinging he got the message xD
neat dust
ancient sun
I was gonna say yall got no right to ridicule one for having forked sleep
but then i realized that i too have forked sleep
proud pebble
I imagine something fishy happens everyday at the harbour
violet cave
violet cave
oooooooooooo
umbral osprey
https://tenor.com/view/anime-tasty-eating-eat-nice-gif-13042331003165815977
damn i didnt know you had huge boobs val
ancient sun
that one's from a hentai
umbral osprey
poncho
sudden frost
You wake up in the middle of the night:
https://images.uesp.net/9/95/TR-quest-Dark_Brotherhood_Attacks.jpg
neat dust
going to the bathroom
sudden frost
going to the bathroom
"Going to the Bathroom" is definitely the ship
neat dust
bk
violet cave
Clovis Richter
sudden frost
burnt sorrel
i gotta go for a call at half past btw
violet cave
oki we're wrapping up soon
Hiddukel
Hiddukel (hid-doo-keel), also known as the Prince of Lies, the Betrayer, the Broken Scales and the Prince of Tarnished Gold, is the god of avarice, exploitation and treachery. His symbol is broken merchant scales and his colors are red and bone. Red Dragons are his loyal followers due to their common avaricious nature. He is also the patron of evil businessmen, thieves and many hobgoblins. His clerics often lead double lives.
sudden frost
Double lives? How do the good guys get an extended lifespan?
ancient sun
see ya on monday group 1 players
ancient sun
stupid marie doesn't wanna let me "borrow" things from people
i mean... she's preventin me from goin around and sleepin with people too
I swear the moment i get out of her sight elara finna go get some stuff done
proud pebble
yes, we don't want you stealing shit or shagging everyone
umbral osprey
i mean... she's preventin me from goin around and sleepin with people too
Stop being a hoe
neat dust
me "borrowing" stuff can be usefull maybe
ancient sun
yes, we don't want you stealing shit or shagging everyone
I wont be stealin shit, i'll just be making money
proud pebble
I wont be stealin shit, i'll just be making money
stop being a hoe
ancient sun
also sorry aiz if i scared you. Just made sure you didnt forget
neat dust
prostitution?
pastel idol
@burnt sorrel
monk items that are particularly good:
- bracers of defense(rare), giving an extra 2 AC as long as you're unarmored
- eldritch claw tattoo(uncommon), adding +1 to unarmed attack and damage rolls, and once per day for 10 minutes let's you add 1d6 force damage to your unarmed hits, and gives you 15ft range
- blood fury tattoo(legendary), 10 charges per day, when you hit you can expend a charge to add 4d6 necrotic damage which heals you for the the damage it does and when you are hit, you can expend a charge to hit back
- gloves of soul catching(legendary), adds 2d10 force damage to any unarmed strike you do, and heals you equivalent to the damage it does
umbral osprey
Holy shit those gloves are cracked
pastel idol
probably won't get your hands on legendaries, but uncommon and rare should be feasible, if the party is keeping an eye out
burnt sorrel
cool, thanks for tha info
ancient sun
i wonder what my horny elf could get
neat dust
an std
neat dust
yaromir
i won't stop u i'll just follow and kill whoever is with u once they are naked
umbral osprey
You two are..... something tho I suppose this is Payback for snek and Justin's first chars
neat dust
?
ancient sun
its not his responsibility to fucking tell me what the NPC does if i sleep with them
umbral osprey
?
snek's first char did also try to rob alot and got us all killed
and justin's was kinda like spark but with magic
neat dust
so this is why u try to stop me
question
i lose my proficency if marie is within 5 feet of me but does that still apply if it's my mage hand doing the stealing away from us?
marie can't see the mage hand right?
ancient sun
Yo aizo, if youre here pls confirm this one
violet cave
probably won't get your hands on legendaries, but uncommon and rare should be fe...
unfortunately, i'm a low magic item count kinda DM. You don't get cool magic items in the traditional sense
pastel idol
pastel idol
so, at level 10, xopah uses divine intervention and makes ilmater manifest her a devotee's censer flail
the censer is just plain 1d8 flail, but adds a 1d8 radiant damage to swings-- adding cleric's 1d8 from divine strike once per turn makes it 2d8 added
now add holy weapon for an additional 2d8, and xopah's swings now does 5d8+3 on a swing, as a melee cleric
ancient sun
unfortunately, i'm a low magic item count kinda DM. You don't get cool magic ite...
Then you give us something like "This item will slowly take away your health, however it makes a cool sound when walking" type shit
violet cave
Then you give us something like "This item will slowly take away your health,...
F it, sharp stone of healing, you take 1d4 piercing damage if someone throws it at you but you heal 1d6 hp
proud pebble
does Astarion have enough actions yet?
proud pebble
still need 3 more parasites for all the powers to be unlocked
I thought of a funny
Astarion is Drake with his multiclasses
My character is just how I play
umbral osprey
Astarion is Drake with his multiclasses
true
proud pebble
that was just Astarion 👀
spice bobcat
<@&1248006648744902809> since i took yesterday off and therefore slept most of it, i just woke up today so if everyone would like to move our start time up an hour or two, please respond and let everyone else know what time you would be available to start in jeannie time. jeannie start time is 6pm btw so if you can play 1 hour earlier it'd be 5pm. please include regular start time if you can not start early today. no worries no matter what, just wanted to give y'all the option since i'm usually dead in teh bed monday's.
ancient sun
Im down with 2, maybe even 3 hours earlier
spice bobcat
once everyone has responded i or cannon can ping the start time whether it changes or not.
i know beans is state-side like myself so i dunno if 3 hours is possible but i won't oppose it.
proud pebble
<@&1248006648744902809> I legit hate myself rn but I can't sleep even after taking meds so I'm gonna have to cancel tonight. Unless I literally sleep the second after sending this
spice bobcat
just like jeannie, your health always comes first. goes for anyone in here. please get some rest.
to anyone reading please ignore my original ping
scarlet crescent
All of you plz take care of yourselves, get some rest, drink some water, D&D can wait
umbral osprey
All of you plz take care of yourselves, get some rest, drink some water, D&D can...
hell nah D&D > life
proud pebble
proud pebble
We could just do tmr instead anyways <:potastPet:814620718670282762>
given no stream tomorrow 
umbral osprey
Yeah schedule dropped no strim
<@&1248006648744902809> session tmr speak now or forever hold your peace
violet cave
cna do tmrw, we start at 11pm?
proud pebble
yeah
scarlet crescent
Yeah I'm good for tomorrow as well
spice bobcat
sorry i laid down for a nap and died it seems, i'm fine with it
ancient sun
<@&1248006648744902809> session tmr speak now or forever hold your peace <:potas...
What time?
Im down as for once i have an empty wednesday
spice bobcat
normal time
proud pebble
have actually slept for once 
pastel idol
violet cave
@pastel idol mmmm traumatized my fighter today by having the King in Yellow visit him in a dream
He was a veteran of an old historic naval battle so I pulled the player to a private room and described how an Eldritch god has found him now and demands his soul for all the dead in his riverbed
Fear 100
proud pebble
@umbral osprey @ancient sun @scarlet crescent
pastel idol
clerics get too many spells
beyond the domain spells I get for free, I have 13 preparation slots to choose from
also have access to greater restoration now, so darvin can finally be de-petrified
imagine if we had failed the potion-making 
violet cave
beyond the domain spells I get for free, I have 13 preparation slots to choose f...
we call this a
