help-development

[echo basalt]

and make our own wrapper class that doesn't fetch chunk data

[orchid gazelle]

why can't Player#sendBlockChanges work with a BlockData too?

BlockData + Location

[worldly ingot]

Because it has no position associated with it

[echo basalt]

you can make a wrapper class that fixes that proble

OR

[orchid gazelle]

then make the user apply a Location

[echo basalt]

make a map<BlockPos, BlockData>

[worldly ingot]

You're welcome to PR

[echo basalt]

paper already has that

I don't have access to bitbucket either

[worldly ingot]

This isn't Paper

Don't know why that's relevant

[echo basalt]

anyways I'll literally just copypaste you the code

[orchid gazelle]

wasn't there even a CLA thingy with spigot contributions? lol

[echo basalt]

and you can just PR that

[worldly ingot]

No, that's not how the CLA works

I can't contribute code I don't own

[echo basalt]

gplv3 go brr

[worldly ingot]

Doesn't matter

[echo basalt]

a

[orchid gazelle]

uhm guys

this is not gonna fix my problem rn lol

I'd love to see a method for sendBlockChanges with a BlockPos + BlockData

[worldly ingot]

I don't think you're going to see any noticeable performance gains from a Map<Location, BlockData> though tbh

[orchid gazelle]

I will

[eternal night]

tbh, probably worse

[worldly ingot]

It seems you're trying to set an astronomically large region of blocks

[orchid gazelle]

because then I do not need to get thousands over thousands of Blocks from the World per tick lol

[echo basalt]

well try it and seel

[eternal night]

Map and bucketing seems terrible

[worldly ingot]

Yeah, see that's the problem lol

[eternal night]

you don't need to index anything

[orchid gazelle]

im seing these insane performance drops with 6000 already

[eternal night]

6000

[worldly ingot]

You think a Map with > 6k entries is going to be better?

[viral temple]

is NMS obfuscated now? cuz I can't find a solution to have a backup/default fallback of my methods

[worldly ingot]

At runtime, yes, nicuch

[orchid gazelle]

is there no other way to do implement a sendBlockChanges method with BlockDatas and some positioning?

[echo basalt]

I've worked A LOT with fake blocks

and can assure you this is a better solution performance wise

[eternal night]

idk what what world a Map<Location, Something> is ever better

[echo basalt]

Let's assume getType costs you maybe 300mu

[viral temple]

do they have different names for each version?

[echo basalt]

that can break everything

[worldly ingot]

Yeah, mappings change from version to version

[viral temple]

any way to automatically detect a few classes and methods?

[echo basalt]

Better than using the existing impl which fetches block type from the palette for every entry

[eternal night]

ye

but that is not the issue in that impl

the issue is that you cannot create a BlockState on demand

without fetching it from a world

[orchid gazelle]

^

[vivid skiff]

How can i place doors?

[echo basalt]

So you want me to make a blockstate wrapper

hm

[eternal night]

Map<Location, BlockState> is worse in every way that matters for this than a List

[orchid gazelle]

wouldn't that be good?

lol

[eternal night]

insert is worse, iteration is worse

[echo basalt]

List<WrappedBlockData> maybe

[eternal night]

memory is worse

why wrapped block data

what is the point

the server already issues non world placed BlockStates

[echo basalt]

it's just a record of Location-BlockData

[eternal night]

See BLockStateItemMeta

[orchid gazelle]

why not just create a Wrapper for on-the-fly blockstates?

[worldly ingot]

Alternatively, World#createBlockState(Material/BlockData, x, y, z, @Nullable Consumer<BlockState>) might be a viable solution

[eternal night]

BlockState is a wrapper of Location/BlockData

that is the entire point of that type

[echo basalt]

Hmm

[orchid gazelle]

why Consumer<BlockState>?

[echo basalt]

I want to separate this blockstate

[eternal night]

why

[worldly ingot]

Convenience for general use case

[viral temple]

aren't BlockState kind of static in the code?

[eternal night]

no

[worldly ingot]

Like how #spawn() accepts a Consumer<Entity>

[echo basalt]

or maybe a createBlockState(BlockData, Location) method hm

[eternal night]

yes

[orchid gazelle]

yes plz

[echo basalt]

How, where would that come 🤔

[eternal night]

creating a secondary type that does literally the exact same seems useless

[worldly ingot]

World ideally

[eternal night]

RegionAccessor

[worldly ingot]

Or RegionAccessor, whatever

Yeah

[orchid gazelle]

what about that?

[eternal night]

tho what is the point of that being on world

not like the world supplies any data

[worldly ingot]

Could be under Server or Bukkit. idrc. If you're passing a Location it has a world

[eternal night]

Ye

[worldly ingot]

Block states have a world associated with them, no?

[eternal night]

yea

[orchid gazelle]

yes

[eternal night]

but not required

iirc nullable

[worldly ingot]

Right but think of the general use case

BlockState#update() should still be possible

[eternal night]

spigot maintainer team can decide ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[echo basalt]

I wonder what the CraftBlockState int flag does

[glacial shell]

help plz.

ERROR] .... Could not pass event PlayerInteractEvent to mains.VanillaCustomItems v0.1

java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.lang.Integer.intValue()" because "time" is null

at events.Events.onRightClick(Events.java:26) ~[VanillaCustomItems-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]

at

(only some of the error, not full thing)

I know time is null, but I tried to make it not null, but its null in that so it can't make it not null.
line 25:

                    Integer time = map1.get(Integer);

line 26:

                    if (time > 0 | time < 0);

how do I make it not null, but also let it later be set to an Integer that won't be overwritten? plz help

[echo basalt]

Integer is an object

you can check for nullability

[orchid gazelle]

so whats the TLDR now?

[echo basalt]

also use || instead of |, as it does some micro optimization

[eternal night]

use NMS

[echo basalt]

if(methodOne() | methodTwo()) executes both regardless if methodOne returns true

[tall dragon]

really?

[echo basalt]

yes

[orchid gazelle]

you guys gonna PR a createBlockState(Location, BlockData)?

[tall dragon]

tbh i never even known you could use | instead of ||

[onyx fjord]

i didnt even know single | exists

[tall dragon]

thought | was only for catch statements

[echo basalt]

| is the binary OR

It's the opposite of &

[tall dragon]

should you use || in catch statements as well then?

[echo basalt]

0x111 | 0x222

type deal

[echo basalt]

no

[tall dragon]

u cant right?

[worldly ingot]

The flag in CraftBlockState is to do with the type of update to perform when setting the block in the world. You can set it to 3 as that's the default iirc

Or more appropriately, there are constants somewhere

It's like update light | update physics or something

[orchid gazelle]

this has everything needed in a BlockState, no?

[echo basalt]

it should

[orchid gazelle]

then why don't create that? xD

[glacial shell]

so would i do/be able to do this?

if (time || time);

else {
time = 0;
}

to get around time being null?

[worldly ingot]

Again, I still don't think this is going to have the noticeable performance improvements you think it's going to have. Unless you benchmark internals, I'm not convinced

You still have to create those BlockState instances somehow

[echo basalt]

That's not the problem, strictly

The problem right now is that we fetch data from the world and then override with our own

fetching data from the world takes time and is wasteful, we could just create the object with out own data to begin with

[eternal night]

or just use NMS

👍

[echo basalt]

yeah that

you can just be a bit cheeky

[orchid gazelle]

its literally 100000000000000x more performant to create the Object with the data instead of getting it from the world which takes until I am a grandpa

[worldly ingot]

Little bit of an exaggeration lol

[dry yacht]

While that's just one of the many issues, it's still completely crazy to needlessly create hundreds of thousands of these wrapper classes to just later be collapsed into chunk-segmented multi-block update packets again. Scattered heap allocations, good for nothing.

At this point I just want to advise @orchid gazelle again (xD) to create an application specific implementation for this pretty seldom use-case of block updates.

[tardy delta]

best if condition seen today java if (((regex.length() == 1 && ".$|()[{^?*+\\".indexOf(ch = regex.charAt(0)) == -1) || (regex.length() == 2 && regex.charAt(0) == '\\' && (((ch = regex.charAt(1))-'0')|('9'-ch)) < 0 && ((ch-'a')|('z'-ch)) < 0 && ((ch-'A')|('Z'-ch)) < 0)) && (ch < Character.MIN_HIGH_SURROGATE || ch > Character.MAX_LOW_SURROGATE))

[worldly ingot]

I had initially proposed a Consumer<BlockChangeDelegate> which would have avoided most of that, but the implementation was significantly worse as a result

[glacial shell]

would methodOne and methodTwo be time? or what, im just trying to fix the error to stop time being null temporarily

[worldly ingot]

It's also awkward to work around a Consumer

[echo basalt]

public class CustomBlockState extends CraftBlockState {

  public CustomBlockState(Location location, BlockData bukkitData) {
    super(null, new BlockPos(location.getX(), logation.getY(), location.getZ()), ((CraftBlockData) bukkitData).getState());
  }
}

[worldly ingot]

Please don't make a child class

[echo basalt]

and yes you need to create this class to use the protected constructor

or just make this one public

[worldly ingot]

I want you to try that to see if there are performance improvements. Again, I still don't think there will be

At least nothing significant

[echo basalt]

@orchid gazelle benchmark time

[orchid gazelle]

Huh what?

Where?

[dry yacht]

Yeah, no, I'm more thinking about cached packets with direct write into the block positions and the one combined ID field. That's all a block update really is. You'd have to segment into chunks ahead of time and when moving the virtual schematic they want to draw, check whether chunk boundaries actually changed.

Maybe it would be more performant to just send individual block updates, as the whole overhead of segmentation probably doesn't help that much. Would be something one needs to benchmark to find out.

[echo basalt]

use this class

stick it in your thing

and measure the improvement

[orchid gazelle]

Gimme 1sec

[echo basalt]

The client would need to process a lot more packets

it has a network overhead

[orchid gazelle]

@echo basalt

[dry yacht]

It's a tradeoff. Depends on where you want to do the work. Again, it's not that trivial to judge this and would very likely need some end to end benchmarking.

[echo basalt]

uhh

[orchid gazelle]

oh wait you just misspelled

lol

[echo basalt]

It's the nms blockstate btw

[orchid gazelle]

logation

where?

[echo basalt]

3rd param

[orchid gazelle]

import org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_19_R2.block.CraftBlockState;

?

[echo basalt]

uhh

[dry yacht]

craftbukkit != nms

[orchid gazelle]

yeah

[echo basalt]

here

[orchid gazelle]

what?

CraftBlockState only exists for org.bukkit

obviously

[echo basalt]

I know

you're creating a CraftBlockState and passing an NMS blockstate as the 3rd param on the constructor

[orchid gazelle]

BlockState org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_19_R2.block.data.CraftBlockData.getState()

[tardy delta]

i hate how there are so much full paths

[orchid gazelle]

uhm

[eternal oxide]

why are you using CraftBukkit?

[echo basalt]

because performance

we're avoiding getting blockstates from the world :p

[eternal oxide]

oh

[orchid gazelle]

I am not passing any nms things rn

oh wait am i

well, the constructor works lol

and now im gonna create the object and pass it to sendBlockChanges?

[echo basalt]

yea

just map each block to a CustomBlockState and send the thing

if it yells about world

[eternal oxide]

I'm not sure creating a state by CB is going to be faster that reading one from the world

[echo basalt]

just pass the world instead of null on the 1st param

[echo basalt]

The thing is

[orchid gazelle]

BlockState blockstate = new CustomBlockState(new Location(player.getWorld(), block.getX(), block.getY(), block.getZ()), block.getBlockdata());
``` like that?

[echo basalt]

every time you call getBlockState it creates a copy anyways (and that copy then fetches the block type and all)

[echo basalt]

yea

[orchid gazelle]

building

[eternal oxide]

yes a state is always a copy

[dry yacht]

But creating your own from scratch is by definition faster than creating it from read out data, xD.

[echo basalt]

basically we want to create a block state with pre-set block data

[eternal oxide]

ah

yeah I can see that may be slightly faster

[orchid gazelle]

bro lol

[echo basalt]

instead of fetching an snapshot from the world, changing the data anyways and sending

[glacial shell]

'time' (Integer) is null, but it won't let me check if it is null

[orchid gazelle]

"no improvement"

factor 100 XD

[dry yacht]

And it can be fully async, as you don't need to read from the world anymore. It's still far from what I think would be optimal, but it's most definitely better.

[echo basalt]

isn't that 894mu?

[orchid gazelle]

wait

[echo basalt]

1000 mu = 1ms

[orchid gazelle]

its 0,8ms

[dry yacht]

Those are ns

[echo basalt]

yeah

894.7mu

pretty decent

[orchid gazelle]

and air took 72ms

0.8ms->72ms

that is indeed a difference

[echo basalt]

@worldly ingot that's a decent improvement

[orchid gazelle]

btw. Illusion ty for giving me code I can use now XD

[orchid gazelle]

ah and, its even a little more since passing the Blockdata from the custom block object takes longer than just having a static Air Blockdata

still too slow but better xD

[echo basalt]

out of that

what's the part that takes the longest?

[orchid gazelle]

wdym?

[echo basalt]

is it mapping the blocks

[orchid gazelle]

thats the full time im debugging:

    public static void showRendered(Player player, ArrayList<SchematicBlock> blocks) {
        if(blocks == null) return;
        
        ArrayList<BlockState> states = new ArrayList<BlockState>();
        
        for(SchematicBlock block : blocks) {
            BlockState blockstate = new CustomBlockState(new Location(player.getWorld(), block.getX(), block.getY(), block.getZ()), block.getBlockdata());
            states.add(blockstate);
        }
        
        player.sendBlockChanges(states, true);
        
    }

[echo basalt]

yeah but out of that

is it the top method

[orchid gazelle]

the sending or iterating you mean?

[echo basalt]

or is it the sendBlockChanges

yeah

[orchid gazelle]

imma debug that real quick ok?

[echo basalt]

watch me say "no that's not ok, you're going to jail"

just go for it

[orchid gazelle]

lmao

[echo basalt]

decent enough

[orchid gazelle]

why's it way slower now?

I mean still a huge difference but yeah

[echo basalt]

1.6ms is cool enough

the only way you can halfen that again

[orchid gazelle]

is?

[echo basalt]

is by doing it all yourself in a single loop

[orchid gazelle]

uhm

[echo basalt]

instead of converting it using NMS and letting bukkit organize it again

[orchid gazelle]

thats gonna take me forever if I do that lol

[echo basalt]

not really

you already have the nms block state

[orchid gazelle]

this is probably gonna be a problem

[lost matrix]

Whats being tried here?

[echo basalt]

you just need to put that into packets

[orchid gazelle]

because I want way more than 6000 blocks lol

[echo basalt]

guy wants to send multi-block-change in big amounts while retaining performance

[orchid gazelle]

never worked with Packets

[echo basalt]

nice time to try things out and learn

btw you can do this stuff async

[lost matrix]

If its a LOT. Just send chunk packets. Editing is quite hard but its very fast.

[orchid gazelle]

I am doing that async already

[echo basalt]

I honestly find doing chunk packets async to be a bit... slow

[orchid gazelle]

then I should not do it?

[echo basalt]

you could

try and see

thing is I've once done interception to inject "fake" blocks into chunk packets

[dry yacht]

What would be the advantage of a chunk packet over a multiblock update packet? Isn't the latter just a differential update instead of sending the whole chunk again?

[echo basalt]

and had some weird performance issues because fetching blocks from the palette would take anywhere from 0.1ms to 50ms

[orchid gazelle]

lol

I got an idea

would it be more performant to calculate which blocks are on the outline of the multiblock?

and only send those?

[lost matrix]

Number of packets being sent is way smaller -> Every packet needs a header

[echo basalt]

calculate changes yeah

[orchid gazelle]

oh wait thats dumb nvm

[dry yacht]

Only works if the rest is actually being shadowed. You're gonna have to get into maths again, lol

[echo basalt]

if you're sending a big square you only need to send the blocks that are actually being changed

so the middle blocks would probably not be sent

that's a bit painful to impl

[orchid gazelle]

ehh thats a lot just for edge-cases

[echo basalt]

computationally expensive type deal

[orchid gazelle]

its mostly not senseless fills of blocks lol

[dry yacht]

Wait, is it? Are you talking about modifying existing chunk packets or sending custom made ones? Because if I'm not mistaken, the PacketPlayOutMultiBlockChange updates an equally large area like the PacketPlayOutMapChunk does.

[lost matrix]

let me check

[dry yacht]

I think it's just the differential version of it. But I'd love to know, thanks for checking, was just about to!

[eternal ivy]

how to disable players' movement temporarily in implements CommandExecutor

[echo basalt]

MultiBlockChange after 1.16 updates a single chunk section

MapChunk sends all non-empty sections from bottom->top

[lost matrix]

Max out jump boost and set the players movement speed to 0 via a multiplicative scalar mod with a op value of 0.0

But you should probably approach this with a manager

[echo basalt]

setWalkSpeed(0) go brr

[orchid gazelle]

@echo basalt will it be faster when implemented into spigot actually?

[echo basalt]

or add some attribute, which is safer

[echo basalt]

pretty much

[orchid gazelle]

Of what an improvement are we talking of

[echo basalt]

same as what you're already seeing

implementing it on spigot is basically what you did

[dry yacht]

Wait, chunks are segmented again? Is a section a y-slice?

[echo basalt]

always have been

each section is 16x16x16

aka 4096 volume

you can represent each block position in the section with a single short

[dry yacht]

Few nanos probably, as you could get rid of the super call in the base class, who's only purpose is to access the inaccessible constructor without the overhead of reflect.

[echo basalt]

Let's say that the heightmap says the highest block is always 128

the mapChunk packet will only send the first 8 sections

[orchid gazelle]

Is its gonna get PRed now that Choco saw that its a serious improvement?

[echo basalt]

idk ask him

[dry yacht]

Okay, nice, learned something new. So I guess when sending multiblock updates, you have to segment even harder... But it's probably still better than polluting the network with a thousand little packets. Not that their header is significant, but networking overhead is.

[orchid gazelle]

Ok

[echo basalt]

I mean

[lost matrix]

You are right the ClientboundSectionBlocksUpdatePacket is probably faster. Its already a multiblock change in a single chunk.

[echo basalt]

the Single block change packet

has 2 fields

• long: Block position, as a long
• varint: blockstate id in the global pallette

on top of the packet id

[dry yacht]

Yeah, that's what I guessed, I never did chunk manipulation before. Thanks for looking at it again! :)

I think that cached packets with all wrappers already instantiated and just modified in place would be the absolute fastest you could get. You'd just have those slices prepared and only patch them before sending.

[lost matrix]

Why does mojang use 20 bits for a y coordinate? ...

[echo basalt]

In contrast, each multi block change packet has:

• long: section position index, as a long

• boolean: suppress light updates

• long, containing the state id and the position, for each block

[echo basalt]

because the other 12 bits add up perfectly to 4096

[dry yacht]

What do you want to say by that? That it's not that big? I mean, again, it's not at all about byte size here, it's totally about the overhead of carrying that packet through a big number of buffers all throughout the world from computer A to B. Also, heap scattering again, the computer (server and client) just cannot process them equally as fast.

[echo basalt]

you only need 12 bits to represent where the block is at, in the section

[lost matrix]

[orchid gazelle]

JEEZ 200FPS while rendering 6000 new fake blocks every tick lmao

[lost matrix]

They use 22 for x and z respective and 20 for y

[echo basalt]

oh wait that's the section id

I was looking at this

[lost matrix]

Last time i checked mc worlds cant go beyond 2k or something

[orchid gazelle]

cmooon why is this lagging?

[echo basalt]

I guess it's for future-proofing?

[orchid gazelle]

I've done the same with air-undos and its still lagging like shit @echo basalt

[lost matrix]

Been there. Had a server where you could ride ships and the waves would be animated.
Can be done completely async but we noticed a big bottleneck for many players: Bandwidth

[echo basalt]

yeah welcome to multi block change

[nova niche]

Does anyone know how to make EssentialsDiscord send a embed message when a player joins?

[dry yacht]

Well, where's that excerpt from? If you have the bits available, you might as well use them, I guess. Not sure if it could have been packed any tighter.

[dry yacht]

Ouch, that makes me fear the networking bottleneck of my current project a bit, xD.

[lost matrix]

I would just go 24, 24, 16
65k blocks in height sounds reasonable to me and minecraft worlds can grow quite a bit into x and z

[lost matrix]

Our server had 1 Gbit mirrored which was more than enough. But some people just had
a bad connection...

[echo basalt]

yeah you gotta watch out for bandwidth

server I worked for was sending like 80mbit worth of particles to each player :p

[crimson relic]

DoS over minecraft 💀

[echo basalt]

made a very simple culler that worked directly on the network thread

went down to like 400kb

[orchid gazelle]

Idc about that for now since the function is only for builders rn anyways lol

[dry yacht]

Yeah, that's what I was getting at, the client's bandwith. The server should have an ample amount of that, or you should switch providers, xD. Can you just estimate what kind of sizes you were talking about with your project, so I can get a feeling for what's acceptable?

[orchid gazelle]

Server 10Gbit should be enough lmao

[lost matrix]

Sry this was way in the past. But in the neighborhood of mb/s
But we also approached this very naively. Lack of experience

[dry yacht]

Oh, I'm doomed then

[lost matrix]

F

What are you doing?

[eternal ivy]

p.setWalkSpeed(1)

but it makes me faster than default

[dry yacht]

https://streamable.com/pgd9ak

[crimson relic]

oh god

[dry yacht]

Well, whatever, people gotta afford proper internet these days

[echo basalt]

0,2

[echo basalt]

haha mobile data go boom

[lost matrix]

Noice. But that should be fine, right?

[dry yacht]

5 * 8 * 128 * 128 * 30 = 19660800 = ~19MB/s at 30fps (worst-case). Of course I'd only update when it's needed. I'm planning on hosting web-guis in there, so 30 frames is an overkill anyways.

[lost matrix]

How are you streaming this? Whats your backbone? Kafka? Or Redis?

[dry yacht]

WebRTC in the browser which approximates the image down to frame colors using webassembly, then sending it over a socket to my plugin which segments into cached packet's buffers and sends em out

[lost matrix]

Well 30 fps on a 20 tick/s update loop is also questionable ^^

[echo basalt]

compression go brr

[dry yacht]

Segmentation is currently as fast as 0.0xms, web assembly is still choking a bit

[dry yacht]

I'm running in a new thread, haha

[echo basalt]

you could render the frames on the computer that's streaming, no?

[dry yacht]

I do, read the webassembly part

[lost matrix]

Ah interesting so this is handled completely disjunct from the main thread

[echo basalt]

that way you're only sending 1 byte / pixel instead of like 4

[dry yacht]

Does the minecraft server compress it? And it can't compress around frame borders, as it's not aware of bigger areas and has no notion of an image.

[dry yacht]

Exactly, it's funny that the client can even draw map updates this fast, haha

[echo basalt]

now

[dry yacht]

That's what I'm doing. I'm sending a compressed color lookup table to the client, expand it with gzip to a byte[1<<24] to have O(1) approximation speed and only send the number of bytes

[echo basalt]

what if you make it 2-way

and like

clicking on the maps

actually clicks on your pc

🤔

[lost matrix]

possible

[dry yacht]

That's the whole plan

[echo basalt]

I'm working on a similar system

well

remaking it entirely

[crimson relic]

and then make a public server and let everyone click

[dry yacht]

But the browser is gonna be in a VM very likely

[echo basalt]

and pixel detection is a pain

[dry yacht]

yep, also gonna do that

[dry yacht]

Talk about multi-cursor support, :).

This project really goes right to the edge of what can sanely be done on a server with many people. You literally gotta optimize the hell out of it.

[echo basalt]

anyways I'm starting to get the motivation to work on this stuff again

[crimson relic]

thats pretty cool

[echo basalt]

I've done that before, yeah

[dry yacht]

Yeah, I know these. But most of them use custom GUI frameworks. I think that's stupid and want to stream a headless browser.

[echo basalt]

I want my new system to support abstract shapes

also there is a bug that lets you rotate maps

[eternal ivy]

how to execute method every 30minutes?

[echo basalt]

but you can't position them in the middle of a block which makes it look really bad

[dry yacht]

That's great to hear btw, love me some competition! :)

[wary harness]

for love of god what is that

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-thor-uh-what-confused-gif-20321211

[dry yacht]

Which is being rendered completely useless by integer based positions.

[lost matrix]

Man my mc folder is full of unfinished projects which had a pretty decent start

[orchid gazelle]

Continue them then lmao

[echo basalt]

I work on stuff like that too

[tall dragon]

i have the same issue lmao

[echo basalt]

but much stupider

[dry yacht]

You don't want to know how many soft- and hardwareprojects I've trashed over time

[tall dragon]

i lose motivation and quit the project xd

[atomic swift]

how to i set the command doesnt exist message

[echo basalt]

Anyways let's see

[lost matrix]

one of the config files. Bukkit.yml i think

[echo basalt]

how can I estimate a boundingbox based on just the direction it's facing and the block the top left corner is on 🤔

[wary harness]

this is mod ?

[lost matrix]

Nope all done server side

[wary harness]

with resoure pack

[orchid gazelle]

Nope

[lost matrix]

No resource pack

[orchid gazelle]

Its magic

[wary harness]

wait how it work then on maps but side arrow

?

is on maps to

[lost matrix]

Yes those are invisible maps

[wary harness]

so they can be transperent

[eternal ivy]

how to execute method every 30 minutes?

[orchid gazelle]

use BukkitScheduler

With runTaskLater

[dry yacht]

Map colors 0x00-0x03 are rendering transparently and either show the frame behind or the world, if the frame's invisible, yes.

[lost matrix]

Jup this is all abstracted away. Its a bit like swing. You have a canvas to draw on
and a bunch of abstract widgets with events. Like a button where you can register
hover and click actions.

[ruby mesa]

How would I remove an objective at a score

like: If I had Online: 1 at the score 3. How would remove it?

[vivid skiff]

How can i check if a block is interactable in the interactevent because using Material#isInteractable() the ide says that it doesn' t exist the plugin is for 1.12

[echo basalt]

haha bad code go brr

[atomic swift]

theres this in the spigot.yml file but it doesnt work
unknown-command: Unknown command. Type "/help" for help.

[ruby mesa]

(this is for scoreboards btw)

[wary harness]

sounds intresting on one hand and complicated in other hand

[echo basalt]

imagine having actual alignment lmao couldn't be me

[wary harness]

😅

[lost matrix]

Every block is interactable

[dry yacht]

Not at all complicated to get it working if you're comfortable with abstraction, but it requires quite the attention to detail to optimize it and not get lost in inefficiencies due to your abstractions.

[glacial shell]

So umm, 'player1' is null but I tried to set it to the player but it is still stopping at line 32 saying that 'player1' is null, before it can get to the part setting it as the player.

lines 32 to 38:

                            Player player = event.getPlayer();
                            String player1 = map1.get(Player).toString();
                            if (player1 == null) {
                                player1 = String.valueOf(player);
                            } else {
                                player1 = map1.get(Player).toString();
                            }

How could I get it to go to the if and else and not just give an error an stop?

[onyx fjord]

bruh

[echo basalt]

at this point

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[lost matrix]

Well then the player is not in the map. Also why is your variable named Player with a capital P?

[orchid gazelle]

Ah and Illusion, is there any other optimization I can do on my faking blocks?

[onyx fjord]

1. get(Player)
2. Player#toString???

[wary harness]

is this private project or you got it on github?

[lost matrix]

Cache

[lost matrix]

Closed project behind NDA, sry

[orchid gazelle]

Caching? They are on different positions every tick

[ruby mesa]

how do you get the server to run in intellij?

[glacial shell]

Should it be lowercase?

[echo basalt]

gradle plugin

[onyx fjord]

u can do without

[lost matrix]

But you can cache the block data with its relative position

[ruby mesa]

could I possiblity get the link?

[eternal ivy]

Should I have to put value as milliseconds to delay?

[orchid gazelle]

Well, blockdata is stored in custom Objects

[echo basalt]

you can literally just make your buildscript run a command after compiling

[lost matrix]

ticks (as the javadocs state)

[lost matrix]

1 tick = 50ms (ish)

[eternal ivy]

AH

[orchid gazelle]

Yes

[eternal ivy]

Um

[echo basalt]

that command can be a script that copies the plugin from your libs folder to a server folder

[orchid gazelle]

(With optimal performance)

[echo basalt]

and starts the server

[eternal ivy]

1 sec ==1000ms

1sec == 200ticks?

[orchid gazelle]

20

[lost matrix]

If you have a perfect 20TPS server

Then 20 ticks = 1s

[eternal ivy]

ok i understood

so 30mins == 1800s == 36000ticks

is it right?

[onyx fjord]

yeh

[orchid gazelle]

Can you explain further? Blockdata is in a custom block object

[lost matrix]

Give your schematic an anchor point and every block in it a relative position to that anchor point.
Then you can reuse the entire schematic as it is and only need to add the current position
of the 'display' schematic to each relative block positon. You can even reuse the packet. You just need
to change the right bytes which contain the new position

[dry yacht]

Oh my god, finally somebody else who gives this kind of advice.

[lost matrix]

Hm?

[ruby mesa]

💀

[lost matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFRhGnuXG-4

[dry yacht]

Changing the right bytes is gonna be a bit of a pain tho, xD. It would be great to not have to copy anything at all and completely work in one source. Like, have the packet data point at your schematic values (which is impossible), or just work off of the packet slices.

[dry yacht]

Ah, nothing, you just don't see people who actually understand computing everyday here, it's a relief. Others would ask a factory to create a wrapper for them, while you propose reuse of packets and wrappers, xD.

[lost matrix]

Yeah you will have to put in some work before its usable ^^

[echo basalt]

mm lovely none of these line up

[lost matrix]

no result 😄

[echo basalt]

that's my brain when I'm looking for an explanation

minecraft's snapping doesn't match mine

I guess my first objective is to estimate what blockface it's actually going to snap to

[orchid gazelle]

Im doing the first part already but yeah

"Just need to change" ia easier said than done lol

[glacial shell]

I had the plugin print 'player' and 'player1' to the console and they both are the same just its not executing the event?

[old cloud]

I've got a question about encryption if someone is familiar with it.
I want to encrypt a file with a password using AES. For the key generation you have the salt which has to be same for decryption - same for the IV. So is it just fine to store salt + IV together with the encrypted data? Everything else doesn't really make sense to me. Want to be sure tho.

[quiet ice]

alternatively you can also hardcode the salt

or depending on the usecase the salt can be something inferred from something else

storing the salt in the same file kinda makes the salt pointless

[old cloud]

true

what about the VI tho?

isnt it the same

[hoary wing]

what event causes redstone to change shape, cancelling blockphysics prevents redstone lvl from changing but not the shape, and also fences and similar stuff

[glacial shell]

Why is my plugin not doing the event? The final 2 things are equal ( 'player' = 'player1' ) in an if statement and it keeps going to the else...

part of the event not working correctly:

                            if (player.getName() == player1) {
                                player.sendMessage("gooooooooooooooooood!");
                                double maxhealth = player.getMaxHealth();
                                player.setHealth(maxhealth);
                                player.sendMessage("§cYou've been healed!");
                                map1.put(String.valueOf(Integer), Integer.valueOf(Math.toIntExact(currenttime)));
                            } else {
                                player.sendMessage("problem with player names, idk but ig they dont match or smthn..");
                            }

console print to confirm:

[INFO] .... [mains.VanillaCustomItems] [STDOUT] player = CraftPlayer{name=amazingmation} and player1 = CraftPlayer{name=amazingmation}

ive been working on this all day 😫

[old cloud]

You have to compare strings with .equals, not with ==

[glacial shell]

okay 🙂 thank you sm

hopefully after this it just works

[old cloud]

The == just compares the two objects addresses in memory. Strings are immutable (any operation on a string will return a new string and that new string will have an own memory address), thats why you should always compare with .equals because its comparing the content of the string, not only the addresses in memory.

[glacial shell]

is this right:

if (player.getName().equals(player1)) {

[old cloud]

Yes, if player1 is a string

[glacial shell]

yes it is

[old cloud]

If player1 is a Player then do: if(player.getName().equals(player1.getName())

[old cloud]

then this is fine

[glacial shell]

yeah its not a player because it doesn't let me do .getName() after it

[old cloud]

🙂👍

[glacial shell]

lemme retry rq cause it still went to else

also lemme check if i typed it wrong

[old cloud]

sure

[glacial shell]

ummm

its still doing the else

[hoary wing]

what event causes redstone to change shape, cancelling blockphysics prevents redstone lvl from changing but not the shape, and also fences connecting and similar stuff

[old cloud]

Can you send the complete code?

[glacial shell]

ye

[echo basalt]

this mf is just copypasting his question

[glacial shell]

heres a pastebin: https://paste.md-5.net/simufiquli.cs

[crimson relic]

yeah i dont understand people who do that like every 5 min

[glacial shell]

im just trying to get help, because I tried googling the stuff like 10 times and it didnt work

[crimson relic]

not u

[glacial shell]

oh k

[orchid gazelle]

why's that so laggy? Any ideas mr. illusion?

[echo basalt]

lighting updates maybe

did you add the flag?

my fucking scroll wheei is sticky grr

[old cloud]

  String player1 = String.valueOf(player);``` will call Player#toString on your player variable, which is just the string representation of the player object, not the players name. Later you compare the players name with its string representation and this will not be true. I don't get why you want to compare the player with itself anyway.

[orchid gazelle]

yes

I did add true

[glacial shell]

I am just trying to see if its the same player doing the event for the delay thing im trying to do.

so should I convert the player name to a string and them compare them?

[old cloud]

Okay but player1 will be the player who caused the event

thats like doing if(1 == 1)

[glacial shell]

okay so i just dont need that if statemen then

[old cloud]

Not really, at least right now it doesn't achieve anything

[glacial shell]

okay thx ill try that rq

[old cloud]

But I still dont get what your actual plan is

[glacial shell]

basically i have an item that, when right clicked, heals the player, but I am trying to add a delay between when they can do it so they cant just spam it

[terse ore]

will this code stop the main thread for 2 ticks?

                Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(BlockBattles.getInstance(), () -> {
                    location.getBlock().setType(DIAMOND_BLOCK);
                }, 2L);```

[old cloud]

Nope

[orchid gazelle]

no

[terse ore]

why would you preffer to run it async instead of in the main loop?

[orchid gazelle]

its not about lighting updates, as I set the flag to true. Also, my hardware is not on full load

[old cloud]

Ok. Then its probably the best to store the timestamp when the player uses it and when they try to use it again, calculate the difference of the stored timestamp to the current timestamp. Than allow or deny it depending on how long your delay should be.

[old cloud]

So that it doesnt block the entire server. That thing youve sended will be executed in the main thread btw

[echo basalt]

maybe just the sheer amount of blocks hm

[terse ore]

i am confused then

if I run that th emain thread will stop for 2 ticks?

[quaint mantle]

no, it will run 2 ticks later than when you called it

[old cloud]

No, it will queue your task and run it after 2 ticks

[glacial shell]

So the thing works mostly again.
I tried with the code in there to do the delay, not sure if the delay works yet cause I gotta figure out why (hopefully only one more) line of code doesn't work lol

[old cloud]

Yea just tell me if you got any further questions

[orchid gazelle]

its just 6k

not that critical

[echo basalt]

"just 6k"

yeah no

[quaint mantle]

Do you mind sharing the runServer task? I tried and cant figure out

[orchid gazelle]

why no?

it's gonna be way more lmao

[dry yacht]

cries in not done optimization

[echo basalt]

I use it as part of paperweight

[quiet ice]

You could work with the multi block change packet to reduce bandwidth

[echo basalt]

he already does

but it causes fps spikes

[quaint mantle]

Ah rip?

[orchid gazelle]

its just 1.4mil ns

[dry yacht]

Is that a clientside lag? D:

[orchid gazelle]

that should not lag like actual garbage

[quiet ice]

Yeah at that point you can only resend all the chunks

[echo basalt]

mm this is not the hitbox I was hoping for

[orchid gazelle]

probably

[orchid gazelle]

I drop down to 20fps so I suppose yes lol

[quiet ice]

But gl resending all the chunks

[orchid gazelle]

yes

[quiet ice]

I've heard that the client's fps loop is dependend on the networking look and vice versa (or something like that). Would explain that if you send massive amounts of data

But 6k blocks aren't that many blocks

[dry yacht]

What size is that rectangle?

[orchid gazelle]

            for (int z = -20; z < 100; z++) {
                arr.add(Bukkit.getWorlds().get(0).getBlockAt(x, -61, z));
            }
        }

so 50x120

[dry yacht]

so I guess 12 packets max, right? If I'm not completely stupid rn

[orchid gazelle]

especially not with multiblock-packets

[terse ore]

hwo can I remove blocks async?

[orchid gazelle]

about that yeah

[dry yacht]

Let it be 20, that's still a joke. Think about my display, for example. There's gotta be something else

[orchid gazelle]

yes

[dry yacht]

I wonder how the client implemented this. Are you sure you are not spamming these packets?

[orchid gazelle]

max 1x per tick

[dry yacht]

Wow, that would suck actually, as I thought they operate in separate threads and only share concurrent packet queues.

[orchid gazelle]

but its already lagging when doing it one time

[quiet ice]

It could also be that network and tps loops are linked. Not sure which

[dry yacht]

You're most definitely missing something then. This is unacceptable tbh.

[dry yacht]

Are you sure on that, did you send it only once and it lagged?

[orchid gazelle]

yes

[old cloud]

Not allowed/possible

[orchid gazelle]

I moved my cursor one time, and it did exactly one call

the interesting thing is that it is sometimes spiking and sometimes not

[glacial shell]

okay hopefully last question, no promises tho cause im bad, I am trying to set the Integer value in the HashMap to the current time, but (for some reason) it wants a string and not an Integer as the key and it wants an Integer instead of a long for the value. I had it this way before fig1 but it gave the error in the game console fig 2 but now its giving the error in the IDE fig 3

fig1:

map1.put(String.valueOf(Integer), Integer.valueOf((currenttime)));

fig2:
https://paste.md-5.net/puwafeqasu.cs

fig3:

map1.put(Integer, currenttime);

thx u have been so much of a help and given your time for my benefit, I can't thank you enough 😄
@old cloud

[old cloud]

How do you fetch currenttime?

[glacial shell]

Long currenttime = System.currentTimeMillis();

[terse ore]

    @EventHandler
    public void onBlockPlace(BlockPlaceEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();
        Block block = event.getBlock();
        Location location = block.getLocation();
        BlockFace direction = player.getFacing();
        if (block.getType() == DIAMOND_BLOCK) {
            for (int i = 0; i < 5; i++) {
                Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(Data.getInstance(), () -> {
                    switch (direction) {
                        case NORTH -> location.setZ(location.getZ() - 1);
                        case SOUTH -> location.setZ(location.getZ() + 1);
                        case EAST -> location.setX(location.getX() + 1);
                        default -> location.setX(location.getX() - 1);
                    }
                    location.getBlock().setType(DIAMOND_BLOCK);
                }, 20L);
            }
        }
    }
``` Why does this code place all the blocks at once instead of placing them 1 every second

[dry yacht]

So is the boolean you were talking about the trust edges thingy? Just want to make sure that you're not force updating lighting maps on all of these chunks.

[orchid gazelle]

no its on Player#sendBlockChanges

[dry yacht]

Yeah, and what's behind that Mr. BlackBox?...

[old cloud]

Yes, its a long. So your Map needs to be of type long, not int 😉

[orchid gazelle]

the boolean is called something like surpressLightingUpdate or something

boolean suppressLightUpdates

[dry yacht]

Ok, so you don't have it flipped

[orchid gazelle]

yeah

ah and, would it be faster to directly use states.add(new CustomBlockState...); rather than

              BlockState blockstate = new CustomBlockState(new Location(player.getWorld(), block.getX(), block.getY(), block.getZ()), airData);
                    
              states.add(blockstate);
``` ??

[old cloud]

Because you queue your tasks all at once, not after each other.

[terse ore]

could you explain me how to fix it?

[old cloud]

yes ill do in a few minutes

[terse ore]

dont worry

    @EventHandler
    public void onBlockPlace(BlockPlaceEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();
        Block block = event.getBlock();
        Location location = block.getLocation();
        BlockFace direction = player.getFacing();
        if (block.getType() == DIAMOND_BLOCK) {
            for (int i = 0; i < 5; i++) {
                Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(Data.getInstance(), () -> {
                    switch (direction) {
                        case NORTH -> location.setZ(location.getZ() - 1);
                        case SOUTH -> location.setZ(location.getZ() + 1);
                        case EAST -> location.setX(location.getX() + 1);
                        default -> location.setX(location.getX() - 1);
                    }
                    location.getBlock().setType(DIAMOND_BLOCK);
                }, i);
            }
        }
    }```

this did the job

idk if it is the best way

[old cloud]

Thats one way you could do it, yeah

[raw sky]

How should I control multi user development on github for a free and premium version of a plugin? We want to have our free version open source to everyone but have our paid version closed source, but we need to be able to work on it at the same time. Our issue comes when we want to be able to update the free version and be able to push those code updates onto the private github repo? Hopefully that makes sense

[crimson relic]

just make it all opensource

[raw sky]

I dont wanna make the paid version open source though for obvious reasons

[crimson relic]

what reasons? tons of plugins do it

[orchid gazelle]

bro this is pretty obvious isn't it?

[raw sky]

because they can just steal the code?

[willow widget]

How can I do something like version: ${version} in my plugin.yml for gradle?

[river oracle]

a lot of premium plugins are open source

[sterile token]

Not because others plugins does it, you have to follow them you can be the exception

[crimson relic]

sure but it makes life easier

[river oracle]

lol your code isn't special

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/list-of-open-source-premium-plugins/

[crimson relic]

if someone really wanted to they could steal it or replicate it anyway

[sterile token]

I mean if you selling the jar, you can ge tthe whole src from the plugin

[tall dragon]

indeed

[sterile token]

💀

[rigid loom]

How would i make it so that this can be saved to the config.yml onDisable and restored onEnable?

               if (args[0].equalsIgnoreCase("claim")) {
                    if (plugin.getKingdoms().containsKey(player.getUniqueId().toString())) {
                        if (plugin.getCanClaim().containsKey(player.getUniqueId().toString())) {
                            if (plugin.getCanClaim().containsValue(playerKingdom)) {
                                if (plugin.isClaimedChunk(chunkID)) {
                                    player.sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "Chunk is already claimed");
                                    return true;
                                } else {
                                    plugin.addChunk(chunkID, playerKingdom);
                                    player.sendMessage(ChatColor.GREEN + "Chunk claimed");
                                    return true;
                                }
                            }
                        } else {
                            player.sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "You do not have permission to claim chunks");
                            return true;
                        }
                    } else {
                        player.sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "You are not in a kingdom");
                        return true;
                    }
                }```

[raw sky]

but it will promote piracy, they can just put the code on some other market and not worry about deobfuscation

[sterile token]

Format it please, its really hurts to read

[tall dragon]

any1 actually buying plugins hardly want to be bothered with compiling it themself.

[river oracle]

keeping it closed won't prevent piracy

[echo basalt]

YES

IT WORKY

[crimson relic]

exactly

[raw sky]

obfuscation

[orchid gazelle]

it'll make it harder

[hazy parrot]

Premium plugins can't be obfuscated anyway afaik

[river oracle]

no it won't

[orchid gazelle]

they need to buy a copy to pirate it first lol

[willow widget]

maybe use the free version as a github template for the premium version, that might work. But yeah, everyone's right, the code won't be private even if there's no open source premium xd

[river oracle]

yea then they charge back

likely win

and you don't get anything

[willow widget]

or download it from ||darkColor||spigot

[orchid gazelle]

wtf that would be dumb

[sterile token]

"Everything that can be executed by a machine, can be interpreted by humans" -Take as u want
Dont lost ur time trying to hide your code because people who really want your code, will do everythint o deobfuscate it

[old cloud]

obfuscation is useless anyway

[willow widget]

The offer in a premium plugin is NOT the code, it's the support

[glacial shell]

now when I changed it to a long it says this:

Required type:
Long
Provided:
Integer

it said that to this:

map1.put(Long, currenttime);

HashMap:

    static Integer Long = 0;

    public static HashMap<Long, Long> map1 = new HashMap<>();

[willow widget]

now any of you upvoters, help me with my question 😦

[rigid loom]

i cant think of an effective way to format it

[willow widget]

#help-development message help lol

[old cloud]

Only the second type has to be a long, keep the first one like it was :)

[raw sky]

I mean the entire plugin is based off making GET requests to a rest api, if we make it mandatory to have a license key for that we can try and prevent abuse of piracy

[river oracle]

your variable is an integer named Long

[sterile token]

Not wondering to be rude, but im seeing you havent learnt java - I woulod suggest first learn the lang where you are coding

[raw sky]

and just limit the amount of requests you can make

[river oracle]

spigot will auto deny if you have any licensing server

[sterile token]

Those rest apis can get emulated really easly

[willow widget]

https://www.w3schools.com/java/java_hashmap.asp

[hazy parrot]

Point is that you can't even use licensing system with spigot 😛

[raw sky]

Wait spigot wont let me put my plugin onto spigotmc if we have a rest api that needs a login key??

[terse ore]

why spawnParticles method is is from player?

[willow widget]

anyone knows? 🙂

[river oracle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/premium-resource-guidelines.31667/ please see

[echo basalt]

you can do it in the world, or in the player

[raw sky]

One sec I will read it

[echo basalt]

doing it on the player spawns client-sided particles

doing it in the world spawns particles for everyone

[terse ore]

oh tysm

[sterile token]

"Your plugin must not depend on internet connection" So basically you cant use licensing system

• Taken from spigot rules

[crimson relic]

All resources must run directly from downloaded file without any manual installation steps or access to a specific server. This means that licensing systems of any form are prohibited. This also means that all applicable code must fail-safe in the event of (web) server error.

[glacial shell]

now the required type is a string should I just make the current time a string?

[willow widget]

I didn't know that's a rule and I don't understand the point, a plugin can be ran offline but doesn't make a lot of sense most of the time, does it?

[river oracle]

i'd just store current time as a long

[raw sky]

I guess we can create a not so updated version of a json file that just has like a few hundred thousand lines, still annoying to do though

[glacial shell]

okay ill do that next time, instead of just asking ppl for help

[willow widget]

yes, that's pretty much what's recommended, that way you can get help more easily

[old cloud]

Ill answer in some minutes, kinda busy rn

[sterile token]

@raw sky dont lost your time obfuscating and using license systesm, they will be cracked. Take as an example Miscrosoft, they used to have a really secure licensing system and look some years ago, they OS not only get cracked, they also deobfuscated parts of code

[glacial shell]

current time is a long

Long currenttime = System.currentTimeMillis();

it wants a string cause the name is a string ig idk really

[crimson relic]

obfuscation and drm is just not worth it

[raw sky]

whats so bad about storing data like that? sure 100k lines in json isnt the best but it doesnt get looked into consistently, it takes about 2 seconds to load

[glacial shell]

whenever you get the time, cause in 5 to 10 mins i gotta go

[raw sky]

and I cant use a database online because "no internet connection" or whatever

[willow widget]

the issue is in the map that will store the time, not in the variable that will be put

[river oracle]

I'd probably learn a bit of java. before doing something like this you'd probably be fine doing like W3schools or something

[crimson relic]

why do you need 100k lines of json

[hazy parrot]

Json is not database and will never be

[raw sky]

its an index of every spigotmc plugin and some of its data

[rigid loom]

https://paste.md-5.net/opozetavav.bash
that's as close as i can get. its positioned with a command so im not going thru the effort of figure out where the final few }s goes

[sterile token]

DRM can really easly be brute forced, even thou you can modify the jar bytecode directly and make to it to call your own backend which replicate the original license api

[crimson relic]

good lord why

[raw sky]

if we have some of its data then it would be multiple hundred lines

its going to handle the management of plugins, it auto updates them and everything

[hazy parrot]

Just use proper database, it's wrong usage for json

[raw sky]

installs, updates, deletes

[raw sky]

but I cant depend on a internet connection

depend on it*

[hazy parrot]

You don't need Internet connection for database

[crimson relic]

your entire plugin depends on it???

[tall dragon]

you can soft depend tho

[willow widget]

there are local dbs

[crimson relic]

how are you gonna update plugins without relying on internet

[hazy parrot]

And I'm also pretty sure it's not point of that rule on spigot

[river oracle]

its not they are targeting DRM shit I'd assume. Also you can use spigot libraries feature

though a moderator would have more insight than me

[raw sky]

we make a request to a api online, we get all the plugin data, version, sha256, malware, etc from there. We have a project that scans through every single plugin on spigot and index's them

[river oracle]

probably could ask optic or choco

[sterile token]

Ive say it many time that rule is stupid and shold be re-writed but so far md5 doesnt respond dms neither temp nor support email, we cant do much

[river oracle]

malware? shouldn't you just report that... Also optic has a nice anti malware tool

[echo basalt]

optic is literally working on making it natively scan in runtime

[raw sky]

the ability to prevent anti-malware in the title is beneficial, we will host plugins from other sites too

[echo basalt]

so that any plugins trying to do foul stuff get stopped by the server itself

[raw sky]

we also need to store a lot of the data for a few new projects

[sterile token]

Isnt this guy the owner of that weird site that we were laguthingat it some months ago?

MCLicense?

[river oracle]

🤷🏽‍♂️

[raw sky]

nope

[river oracle]

probably not

[raw sky]

I know who owns it, I do not own it though

[sterile token]

Oh weird mainly his project is trying to be MCLicense-v2

Which wont success because of spigot rules and also you have to talk with md5 because he can take legal actions about the project because of their wrriten TOS

[raw sky]

mine?

[river oracle]

no

the MCLicense guy

[willow widget]

Anoyne know show to do that my plugin.yml works like this?

version: ${version}

becomes

version: 1.0.0

[raw sky]

MCLicense is just a licensing software though, wont be just for spigotmc or anything

[eternal oxide]

in resource section of pom <filtered>true

[crimson relic]

but you are a part of it?

[sterile token]

If im not wrong Spigot TOS have something against hosting their platform resources im not sure tho

[raw sky]

I am not, I just have close connections with them is all

[willow widget]

I'm using gradle tho
and I see no pom

[sterile token]

Im really thinking he is the owner but with another account, he has the same ideas as the owner

[orchid gazelle]

any ideas?

[eternal oxide]

I don't gradle

[crimson relic]

"Virtual Ventures" runs "MCLicense" and "Portal Box"(the plugin you are working on)

[raw sky]

He is working alongside me on the project

We are not the same person though

[sterile token]

If you wont have your message lost, pelase open a thread on this channel, that why spigot discord allow them

[sterile token]

👀 I dont think it...

[orchid gazelle]

well the issue is that nobody will get in that later then

[sterile token]

You are not paying anyone to get instant support si please you must be pacient - thanks sir

[orchid gazelle]

sure, but nobody will see it later on

[willow widget]

is it a better idea to use gradle or maven for my projects?

[ivory sleet]

version?

[willow widget]

XD

[river oracle]

whatever you like more

[willow widget]

I am thinking about the version of my plugin, sorryyyy

[sterile token]

Maybe maven or gradle?

[willow widget]

yeah, just edited

[tall dragon]

own preference

[hazy parrot]

both have down and upsides, whatever you like more

[rigid loom]

How would i save the chunk to config.yml onDisable and restore it onEnable?

[sterile token]

Well maven or gradle (Java building enviroments), are based on developers preferences we cant help you much there

[crimson relic]

id say try both, see which you like more

[river oracle]

I've used both maven and gradle and honestly I have no particularly strong feelings. I like the xml format of maven 🤷🏽‍♂️

[crimson relic]

i use maven because im just used to it

[willow widget]

alright, I thought there could be some important leads to take into consideration, but all of you point that it's preference based so I'll stick to that, ty 🙂

[hazy parrot]

same

[willow widget]

same, i just switch depending on the project sometimes

[river oracle]

I'm switching over to gradle 🤷🏽‍♂️ cuz why not its good to know both tools

[orchid gazelle]

got an idea

[terse ore]

Which is the breaking block particle=

I a mtrying BLOCK_CRACK but it doesn't spawn any particles

[willow widget]

you have all your particles turned on?

[terse ore]

I mean

when I break a block I get the particles

[tall dragon]

block.getWorld().playEffect(block.getLocation(), Effect.STEP_SOUND, block.getType().getId());

[terse ore]

just checked, all particles on

[sterile token]

In my case i mainly prefer maven because of their format (XML) and that is really easy to create custom plugins for it

[distant ridge]

what's the best way to verify that someone has purchased my resource?

[sterile token]

Via spigot account id if im not wrong, never did something like that related to spigot api

[distant ridge]

how do i do that?

[terse ore]

if not tell them to show you their paypal transaction id

and check if you have that same id

if you have they have paid

[distant ridge]

i want it to be automated

i just don't know what endpoints to check

[sterile token]

Well i dont think because premium plugins must not depend on any backend nor internet connection

[distant ridge]

it won't depend on it

[tall dragon]

https://spiget.org/ well this is the api documentations

[distant ridge]

i'm making a bot in discord to verify purchases for support

[terse ore]

maybe he wants to give role in their discord

[sterile token]

Oh right, idk never used spigot api(s)

Any idea why mongo shity logs still persist, while i already disable the full logger 😡

[willow widget]

do you know how to put the version of the plugin into the plugin.yml directly from gradle's config?

[sterile token]

Why dont u use maven instead of losting time trying to find that

[distant ridge]

this doesn't help me verify purchases tho

[willow widget]

I don't want to move the whole thing over to maven, too much of a hassle because I just started using IDEA u.u

[sterile token]

What have the IDE to do? Doesnt mean anything

[willow widget]

I meant Intellij

[sterile token]

Build enviroments doesnt care about IDE 👍 idk your point

[willow widget]

But setting up the compilation does

[dry yacht]

Nothing will, if a somewhat talented dev wants to pirate your software for the public.

[sterile token]

Yeah, but what the problem? Maven is really easy

[crimson relic]

he just wants to use it for a discord bot.....

[distant ridge]

That's fine I just don't want to provide support to people who pirate and thus I'm verifying on discord

[willow widget]

maven is easy, setting it up on intellij can be confusing xd

[sterile token]

For example, modify the plugin bytecode or even decompiling it, modifying it and building it again

[distant ridge]

In general I'm not worried about piracy

[river oracle]

nope I don't even do it for maven either

[willow widget]

I wasted like 1h setting up gradle lol

[river oracle]

the version number doesn't matter to me

[dry yacht]

Oh, so you're about handing out tokens you gotta provide if you want support?

[sterile token]

No bruh, maven already cames with IJ 🤔

[river oracle]

you can do gradle init in a maven project

[river oracle]

so does gradle

[distant ridge]

people who buy get a role on my discord

[river oracle]

both are integrated equally

[sterile token]

Yeah

[dry yacht]

Yeah, so tokens, in the end.

[sterile token]

They area already integrated, just need to tell IJ to download them

[distant ridge]

Okay so how can I check?

[willow widget]

I think you are not getting it, (afaik) there's no such thing as "Click here to compile your file into jar with everything already perfectly set up", so you have to set up a bunch of things manually to compile for the first time

[river oracle]

just do it manually and get some staff, I mean its not that huge of a deal if x person needs support just have a manual verification process

[orchid gazelle]

can someone join to my local server per dm rq and test if it also lags for them?

[distant ridge]

i don't want to do it manually that's why i'm asking for ways to verify it

[sterile token]

Listen and read this phrase many times and you wont do any protection way - "Everything that can be execued by a machine, can be interpreted by humans"
Just dont lost your time instead make an update to the resource

[dry yacht]

Well, you need to bake a token into the plugin. No need to recompile, just patch the class's constantpool and change the string. No idea how to get spigot to execute this routine tho. Ask md5, lol

[distant ridge]

I'm not doing DRM in my plugin....

[river oracle]

smh verano he's not doing DRM

[sterile token]

Buts its applied to what you want to do too

[river oracle]

its a support token he wants

[crimson relic]

no its not

[distant ridge]

I don't want tokens

[sterile token]

OH LMAO

[river oracle]

could ask md5

but otherwise not sure

[distant ridge]

I want my bot to check if someone has bought the plugin and then give them a role in Discord

[sterile token]

i dont think it will posible, if im not wrong public apis, must not violate some TOS against digital money

[crimson relic]

it is possible...

[dry yacht]

Well, if you want to automate that, you need a proxy anyways. Maybe the spigot api allows some sort of purchase validation as a param when relaying to an external download.

[tall dragon]

you could also just paypal api to check payment emails.

[distant ridge]

I can always verify through the PayPal API but that seems less effective than scraping info off Spigot

[raw sky]

what do you mean?? its automatically all setup without touching a single button

[sterile token]

Yes bruh

Look

[crimson relic]

use the minecraft intellij plugin if you arent already

[willow widget]

well, maybe for maven but it took me a while to set up the gradle environment for my project xd

[raw sky]

OH

[raw sky]

yes thats 3 clicks

[willow widget]

there's one?

[sterile token]

😂

[crimson relic]

Yes

makes the process super easy

[willow widget]

where do I get it? lol

[raw sky]

use mc dev plugin and its 2 extra clicks

[sterile token]

Dont confuse things, the plugin itself doesnt contain the build enviroment

[crimson relic]

please just be quiet for 2 seconds

[crimson relic]

file -> settings -> plugins

[sterile token]

Hey stop it, you always against what i say

[raw sky]

its built in to intellij

[crimson relic]

No, you are the one confusing people

[raw sky]

and the mc development sets it up for people

[willow widget]

tbf you are actually not understanding nor providing good info

[sterile token]

So let me explain you

[willow widget]

I understand what you say, you don't understand what I say, no need to explain xd

[willow widget]

ty

[digital nova]

Does anyone know how i could go about implementing a custom save format, what general things would i need to do for that?

[raw sky]

wdym?

what are you storing

[willow widget]

what do I look up tho?

[willow widget]

"Minecraft intellij"? or what?

[raw sky]

Minecraft

[willow widget]

oh nice lol

[digital nova]

like a custom world save format

essentially replacing anvil

[sterile token]

Any alternative to disable mongo shity logs? I tried setting their shity logger to Level.OFF but didnt stop it. Its really disturbing that thing

[sterile token]

Minecraft development its called

[willow widget]

awesome, good tutorial, sub + like

[raw sky]

Depends on what you wanna do, whats your main goal of a custom save format?

over using something like SlimeManager

[echo basalt]

haha ram go boom

[orchid gazelle]

yo Illusion lol

[crimson relic]

who needs ram anyway

[orchid gazelle]

@echo basalt you on your pc and able to test something out in mc rq?

[echo basalt]

I literally upgraded to 32gb ram to have more intellij windows open

[orchid gazelle]

I wanna know if its server issue or client issue

[echo basalt]

sure, lemme turn on my vpn

[hazy parrot]

what is this in spigot config api, list of configuration sections ?

[digital nova]

Saving and loading to a format used by a mod that already exists

[orchid gazelle]

aight

[crimson relic]

i want to get more ram :( im at 32gb rn and its basically always maxed

[orchid gazelle]

sent you the IP

[willow widget]

fields -> list
name -> list
value -> whatever you make it (String for example)
inline -> just like value

[tall dragon]

at 32 g??

tf ru doing then

[crimson relic]

chrome, intellij, minecraft

[tall dragon]

im often with 3 intellij instances open, 2 servers, 3 minecrafts

and still at like 20

[sterile token]

Have the same problem but having 64gb i mainly using 60gb

[hazy parrot]

hmm, isnt name value and inline like a single object of list inside of fields ?

[willow widget]

minecraft on what settings? I got all max and it's like 6GB top lol

[tall dragon]

whats using the most

[crimson relic]

chrome

[digital nova]

m8 i gotta see that task manager

[willow widget]

yeah, that's what i meant

[tall dragon]

ahh yes chrome..

should use firefox

[willow widget]

OH WIAT NO

[sterile token]

💀

[crimson relic]

i have that open too 💀

[tall dragon]

firefox is superior

[sterile token]

Ethernet explorer >>

[tall dragon]

💀

[willow widget]

I think each your file/tree just does not make sense xd

[sterile token]

yeah lmao firebox is even worst haha really slowly compared with MS netscapes

[orchid gazelle]

google chrom like 5Gigs ram HAHAHAH

[digital nova]

3.5g chrome, 3.5g mc, 2.8 intellij

looks reasonable

[crimson relic]

chrome with a lot of processes

[tall dragon]

ive never had any issues, and it does not use as much memory

[willow widget]

https://www.treedoc.org/#/ you can verify it there i guess

[hazy parrot]

well, its valid yaml, just don't know how to handle it in spigot api

[sterile token]

oh weird, i always had issues with it, cache, dns, etc

[digital nova]

i think its just a bunch of the apps that are smaller amounts of memory that are dragging it

like all the spinoff process of chrome

[old cloud]

A Map is a data structure to map a key to a value. Any time you call it with a specific key, you will always get that specific value that was mapped to the key. Since you want to store a timestamp that will be associated with a specific player, you need a map that maps Player->Timestamp. Best practice to identify a player is using their UUID and the timestamp is of type long. So your map should be Map<UUID, Long>. Now whenever a player wants to heal, you can get their last successful heal with Map.get(uuid). Calculate the difference to the current time and if your desired delay has expired, perform the heal and update the new timestamp (the new last heal basically) with Map.put(uuid, timestamp).

[hazy parrot]

yeah, its list of objects, but what objects xd

[crimson relic]

this is actually my lower usage aswell, i usually have way more tabs open which eat up ram

[tall dragon]

but why would u have so many tabs open

[orchid gazelle]

I have never had more than 10 tabs open at the same time

[crimson relic]

i just do

[tall dragon]

but ...w hy

[orchid gazelle]

u ready?

[echo basalt]

downloading 1.19.3

also had some struggles with my private vpn

[orchid gazelle]

I like how database+webserver only take 4mb ram lmao

[orchid gazelle]

aight

[chrome beacon]

The only times I've had over 200 tabs open was when I made modpacks

Before the curseforge launcher

[tall dragon]

thats fair enough

coulnt be me making modpacks

that wouldve been a painn

[sterile token]

LOl how you can work without many tabs

Currently having 10 instances of Opera GX with 20-40 tabs each instance

💀

[orchid gazelle]

@echo basalt how's it going?

[echo basalt]

it started out alright

but then like

[tall dragon]

opera gx 💀

[echo basalt]

I clicked on it again and it's spiking

[orchid gazelle]

click?

[sterile token]

Better than firebot/box secure about it, no dudes

[echo basalt]

the gun

thing

unelss I'm an idiot

idk

[orchid gazelle]

the gun is irrelevant

[echo basalt]

ah ok

anyways

[crimson relic]

💀

[orchid gazelle]

just another project lmao

[echo basalt]

it would be like 15x better

if you uhh

only sent changes

instead of sending air and blocks again

it can bring out massive improvements

like if I move side to side

[orchid gazelle]

but I gotta calculate that too, thats a lot of calculations

[willow widget]

the objects are "name:","value:" and "inline:", because you are not setting values to them

[orchid gazelle]

and also, I gotta send air to remove the blocks lol

[echo basalt]

I mean

I'd probably make a mask

for each block type?

and see if the mask contains the new position

if it does, exclude

[orchid gazelle]

god what?

[echo basalt]

It's actually pretty chill ngl

[hazy parrot]

imagine there are values

[echo basalt]

probably takes forever to calculate but

what if you had a premade 3d shape

where everything is relative to itself

and then