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subtle blade Apr 14, 2020, 3:52 AM

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initial vs. maximum

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Initial should never equal the maximum lol

sturdy inlet Apr 14, 2020, 3:52 AM

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C:\Users\dimit\Desktop\MiniCraft>java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar spigot.jar nogui
Picked up _JAVA_OPTIONS: -Xmx512M
Error occurred during initialization of VM
Initial heap size set to a larger value than the maximum heap size

C:\Users\dimit\Desktop\MiniCraft>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

it says that now

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 3:53 AM

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@subtle blade its perfectly fine to have them set as the same

subtle blade Apr 14, 2020, 3:53 AM

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But you should not

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 3:53 AM

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all that happens when it is, is that dynamic allocation does not happen

subtle blade Apr 14, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Just once is enough

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 3:53 AM

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it is actually more efficient to allocate for MC then to dynamically allocate since you don't get back that ram it consumes anyways

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also have to wait on it to expand its ram limits as well

sturdy inlet Apr 14, 2020, 3:54 AM

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i need helpppp

subtle blade Apr 14, 2020, 3:54 AM

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We see your question

fleet crane Apr 14, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Just leave xms alone

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Remove it

sturdy inlet Apr 14, 2020, 3:54 AM

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me?

subtle blade Apr 14, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Yes

sturdy inlet Apr 14, 2020, 3:55 AM

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omg thank you

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 3:56 AM

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so i found... something

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EntityArrow is resetting my firetick

subtle blade Apr 14, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Likely sets fire ticks every time an arrow hits an entity whether or not it's on fire, which seems like a bug imo

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Let me confirm that

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Honestly i think so

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because im cancelling the combustion event to handle combustion myself

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it doesnt happen with melee

median wing Apr 14, 2020, 4:00 AM

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What's the enchantment of Fortune called

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can't seem to find it

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:01 AM

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LOOT_BONUS_BLOCKS

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/enchantments/Enchantment.html

median wing Apr 14, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Ah thank you

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:02 AM

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so heres what i got in my debug frame

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

subtle blade Apr 14, 2020, 4:02 AM

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That's where I ended up as well

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:03 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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I'm baffled why j is equal to -20.....

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when in the first pick....

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its clearly 160

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is this somehow a timing issue?

subtle blade Apr 14, 2020, 4:04 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:04 AM

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this is going to make me go insane

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can i zoom out of intellij

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is that possible lol

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OH

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I understand

subtle blade Apr 14, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Dunno. I'm in Eclipse

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:06 AM

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I'm setting the fireticks once the event is called

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the event is called AFTER J is set

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is that

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a bug? should that be that way?

autumn crater Apr 14, 2020, 4:08 AM

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does spigot not support « » properly?

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:09 AM

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like... byte manipulation?

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I think i'm going to just use Entity#setOnFire

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but this is nuts lmaoooo

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im 99% confident if that variable declaration was moved after the event being called i would be fine

minor spruce Apr 14, 2020, 4:11 AM

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what's the problem?

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:11 AM

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me?

minor spruce Apr 14, 2020, 4:11 AM

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yea

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:11 AM

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so i have an entity being shot with a fire arrow

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i am cancelling them being combusted by the fire arrow, so i can handle it myself

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what is happening though, is spigot is extinguising the player immediately after i do this

minor spruce Apr 14, 2020, 4:12 AM

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oh no

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:12 AM

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probably would help if you showed the code you are using

golden vault Apr 14, 2020, 4:14 AM

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havn't been following too closely but could you cancel the fire arrow event then do your stuff on the next tick?

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:15 AM

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this is my interpretation

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📎 unknown.png

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@golden vault i could but i feel like thats a dirty solution, would this be a worthy PR?

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j should be defined after the event is called

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maybe i'm overlooking the reasoning for why j is defined there

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but i dont see a reason why it shouldnt be moved

minor spruce Apr 14, 2020, 4:20 AM

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wheres the code where you handle it yourself?

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:23 AM

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heres an imgur album

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https://imgur.com/a/RLRkcHS

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i'm trying to prove spigot is overwriting the value i set instantly

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:23 AM

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would need to see how you have it coded

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:23 AM

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it shouldnt matter

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im using entity#setFiretick

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you can see it is set to 160, but only for a very brief moment

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:24 AM

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debug frame is nice and all

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but it doesn't tell me what you are doing wrong

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:24 AM

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i'm not doing anything... wrong?

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:25 AM

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you wouldn't know unless you had it peer reviewed, obviously something is wrong

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whether it is your code or its some kind of quirk

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:25 AM

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i dont know what you want to see.... im setting the fire tick... debug says i am

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what else do you need?

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im not setting it back to 0

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that i have confirmed

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with other things

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:26 AM

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the class file where you have it coded to cancel the event and then you setting the fire ticks etc etc

minor spruce Apr 14, 2020, 4:26 AM

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oh i see, so it gets the fire ticks before the event is called, so changing it in the event has no effect because it sets the fire ticks to whatever they were before the event anyway?

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:26 AM

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exactly

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well im canceling the event all together and using setFireTick myself

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and the reason im not providing snippets is because its a very large chunk of code

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that spans accross 3 or 4 different methods

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:28 AM

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doesn't bother me none in how large of a code piece it is. But most here won't be able to effectively help without seeing what exactly you are doing to compare with your debug frames

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:29 AM

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im not providing code snippets.... its a lot of code and all that matters is i know i'm setting the fire tick to the correct value and im not setting it after that

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i appreciate your interest to help, but there is no reason to see the code when the problem isnt with my code

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:31 AM

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ok, my point is this you are saying you are using entity.SetFireTicks() it does matter in how you are obtaining the entity reference and whether or not you have the correct entity object you are trying to manipulate.

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:31 AM

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i'm using the exact same way with melee and it does not produce the same effect

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so i know im using the correct entity in that regard

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https://github.com/smartin1018/redwarfare/blob/master/redwarfare-core/src/me/libraryaddict/core/damage/CustomDamageEvent.java

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line 337

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this plugin isnt even mine, to be fair, im just updating it

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:36 AM

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does the bow have enchants that you are testing with?

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:36 AM

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like ive said, line 337 gets executed so yes

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it does

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:36 AM

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line 316 is where 160 is coming into play

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:37 AM

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oh

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im sorry

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:37 AM

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level of the bow is 2 which times 80 gets your 160. So the enchant code is conflicting with your projectile one

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:37 AM

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in my version

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i manually set it to 160 to rule out the amount

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normally it would be correct

minor spruce Apr 14, 2020, 4:38 AM

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is that problem solved?

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:38 AM

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no

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i was just saying the 160 is correct

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it just doesnt show in github

minor spruce Apr 14, 2020, 4:38 AM

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ah ok

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when the entity gets hit by the arrow, i know you cancel the fire damage, but does the arrow damage still apply?

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:39 AM

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yes

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ill have to double check but i think i handle arrow damage too

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which gives me an idea to maybe handle fire there but for now im focussed on this

minor spruce Apr 14, 2020, 4:40 AM

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by the looks of it, that method you're looking at only sets the fire ticks to what they were before if the damage isn't applied, which makes sense

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:40 AM

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you are correct....

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(thanks for that observation, that helps)

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but idk if that is an intended behaviour so to speak

minor spruce Apr 14, 2020, 4:41 AM

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well if you cancel the damage, it makes sense to revert back to what you had before

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:41 AM

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true

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then that makes it a weird timing issue which is naf

minor spruce Apr 14, 2020, 4:46 AM

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i should probably go to sleep now lol, but good luck with solving your issue

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:46 AM

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thanks you helped with me understanding the problem better

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:46 AM

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this is why being able to look at code helps us in helping you 🙂

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:47 AM

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well he actually got that from the spigot code not mine... id argue it didnt help at all. lol

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and besides my greatest worry from sharing the code was questions about how it worked

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:50 AM

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why would that worry you?

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:50 AM

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its a lot of code that has a lot of moving parts

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beyond that its not even mine to begin with, so sometimes i may have trouble answering stuff myself

golden vault Apr 14, 2020, 4:52 AM

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I understand that completely. Explaining other peoples code can be quite difficult, however if you try to anyway you will tend to learn and understand the code better.

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:52 AM

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^

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:52 AM

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i understand

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what im more frustrated about is the timing of this code -_-

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:53 AM

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well, if its a timing issue, you could wait a tick to re-apply fire ticks

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:53 AM

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thats the problem

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im in a static method

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 4:54 AM

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does it need to be static?

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o.O

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 4:54 AM

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yea i think so

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scheduling 1 tick later does the trick but still makes me mad lol

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 5:07 AM

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I think I may know how you are getting that -20

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because I don't think its suppose to be negative anyways o.O

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nvm didn't look at it right, but I did find a different spot where ticks are set for the fire

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https://github.com/smartin1018/redwarfare/blob/master/redwarfare-core/src/me/libraryaddict/core/condition/ConditionManager.java#L193

wanton delta Apr 14, 2020, 5:15 AM

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like ive said, ive triple checked that my own plugin wasnt the interference

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so i have that covered

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i know why it happens now

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I got around it by checking for projectile damage in the EntityDamageByEntityEvent

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and setting the damage to 0.000001 which still allows my plugin to handle damage while allowing for fire to be present

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without scheduling for the next tick

ocean anvil Apr 14, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Anyone know if it's possible to access multiple CraftItemEvent results? Like when a user uses Shift+Click? At the moment I can only seem to get the first item crafted

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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I am trying to use my custom domain for Dynmap. I changed the dynmap port to 80, but I am unsure of what type of DNS record I will need. play.elyriamc.com links to my server on port 25565, but I want map.elyriamc.com to link to the Dynmap site on port 80

ocean anvil Apr 14, 2020, 5:48 AM

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If you want to point to a specific port you'll need to use an SRV record I believe

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Not sure if you need to be using SRV but that's the only one I know of that works

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I don't know if it's really a "specific" port though, seeing as how 80 is the http port

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if I type localhost into my browser with no port it automatically connects

ocean anvil Apr 14, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Oh, you shouldn't need any manual port setting then, since Minecraft will automatically go to 25565 when given a standard URL, and the browser will automatically go to 80 - so just use an A record or a CNAME or something, right?

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I guess. I am pretty new to creating DNS records

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How should I setup the A record?

ocean anvil Apr 14, 2020, 5:52 AM

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As far as I know, an A record just takes an IP address and nothing more - what're you using to set them up?

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Google domains

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It says "invalid record count" when I try that

ocean anvil Apr 14, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I haven't used google domains but afaik you'll have name, value and ttl columns?

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Yep

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for name I have map, ttl is 30m, and value is my IP

ocean anvil Apr 14, 2020, 5:53 AM

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That should work fine

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You might have to wait a while for your local DNS cache to update, so even if the record worked you may not be able to connect for a while

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 5:54 AM

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It won't let me hit enter

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Invalid record count

ocean anvil Apr 14, 2020, 5:55 AM

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could you show me a screenshot?

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 5:56 AM

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📎 unknown.png

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Create a new record, A keep ttl at default

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Set the Data to your servers IP Address

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 5:57 AM

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It wont let me do that

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Still says "invalid record count"

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 5:58 AM

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What IP are you putting in it?

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I'm not going to connect anyways, you can remove the IP later from comments if you want

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Actually

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Delete the entire play record and try adding it again

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Is there a reason i can't use a synthetic record?

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 5:59 AM

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It looks like you're adding more than one entry to the data, maybe that's why it keeps throwing errors

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 6:00 AM

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It lets me forward map.elyriamc.com to ip:80

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I don't see why that wouldn't work

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:00 AM

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you don't need an srv record if you are not changing the port mc uses. By default the client will attempt to connect to 25565 if a port isn't entered after the domain

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I got it to work with the synthetic record

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Just do play / A / 1h / <IP Address>

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I already have my server domain up and working

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This is for Dynmap on port 80

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And it works now

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Okay, you dont need to reference port 80

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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As far as i can tell

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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just do a cname off of play

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Just the IP address again

agile jungle Apr 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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You could also reverseproxy it

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Browser works off port 80 regardless

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Oh wait

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The only thing is that the synthetic record redirects to my local IP. It is blatantly in the url. I don't know if freely advertising that would be the best idea

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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And just make sure you have the ports forwarded correctly for the web server too, same way you did the MC server

storm vessel Apr 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Ok, thanks

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Well, if it's in the URL

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That could be a domain / or website issue

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The website would have to be updated in your config to use the domain name as well

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Sometimes at least, not sure for dynmap

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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is the server home hosted ? o.O

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:05 AM

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It could be on a dedicated server

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:05 AM

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that would be ideal

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Guys so I have been using HashMaps for a while, and in Java 8, you can just initiate them right then and ther efor example.

HashMap<Integer, Double> map = new HashMap<Integer, Double>();

I want to know when would the hashmap be initiated first, by doing that, or initiating it in the onEnable function.

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cos I always feared when I access it it might be null

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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@frigid ember its initiated the same as like in the co nstructor.

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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but my main function

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 AM

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And it's not null

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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main class*

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has no constructor

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wait oh

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i understand

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yeah

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Its initiated like you used a constructor

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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so then its before onEnable for sure

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Yeah

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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since to call onEnable

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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It wont ever be null

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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u need an instance

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Yeah

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Thanks.

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@dusky herald and another question

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what is the difference between doing
ArrayList<Integer> i = new ArrayList<>();

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do u need the argument in the second

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Nope

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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ArrayList<Integer> i = new ArrayList<Integer>();

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so there is no difference

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dang, ive wasted my whole life

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xd

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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<> just means its also an Integer and ( number) sets the size of the array initially

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:08 AM

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You could do it as List<Integer> I = new ArrayList(); too

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:09 AM

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you can leave it blank to initialize at JVM defaults

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Ok

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:09 AM

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or set a number there if you already know the size you need which is more optimal as the JVM doesn't need to spend time expanding the array because it wasn't large enough to begin with 😉

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:10 AM

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can you show ane xample

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of setting the size

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I am confused.

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Setting the size of an arraylist?

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:10 AM

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ArrayList<Integer> i = new ArrayList<Integer>(5);

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would set the array at size 5

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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alright

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what error do you get if u exceed

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Almost seems pointless to me

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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the limit

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do any of you know?

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Why not use a regular Integer[5] at that point then?

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Or it can still expand?

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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I just never knew arraylists let you limit.,

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Or just int[5]

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Just something new to learn.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:12 AM

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The way I showed will initialize at that size but still allows for it grow

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the way Blackveiled showed is similar except it won't grow

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Yeah

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Yea Ik

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ok

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so... what is the point of limiting

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:12 AM

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the limit is 2,147,483,647

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:12 AM

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if it grows anyway

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:12 AM

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But it's better to do fixed arrays if you always know its gonna be that size

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:12 AM

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because arrays are backed by int

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:13 AM

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the limit is 2,147,483,647
@keen compass Integer.MAX_VALUE

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Lol

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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@frigid ember Queue's don't always have allow for all objects to wait in line. If you wanted to say a Queue is full you could impose a limit to make things wait for the Queue to clear up

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Queue's generally use an array of some sort to implement

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also if you wanted to ensure your array didn't go haywire and started consuming a bunch of resources

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you could set a limit to ensure it wouldn't go beyond a certain point if its not expected that it should

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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ok

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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I want all the arrays

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int[5][5][5][5][5][5][5][5][5]

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Arrays for days

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:16 AM

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if you initialize your array at the beginning the JVM doesn't spend time guessing how large it needs to be so it will add objects, stop, expand array and then add objects again. If you already know the starting amount you could start it from there instead.

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its not a requirement, but helps speed things up especially when you deal with large arrays lol

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Alright

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ima make my size Integer.MAX_VALUE

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jk

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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That wastes memory

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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ik

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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🙂

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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so it was a joke

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Or was it

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Let's say I am creating a really really large server.

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In java.

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And I deal with so many players, more than Integer.MAX_VALUE

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lets say i tried storing all in an arraylist

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them im fucced

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:19 AM

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ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:19 AM

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You would get index out of bounds exception

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or if your JVM wants to throw a curve at you, you just might get a buffer overflow exception lol

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:20 AM

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ik id get it

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Ik what exceptions id get

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what is the best way to temporary store this amount of users

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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ExceptionException

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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temporary store

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Define temporary

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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what would you recommend

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temporary as, an example, when they leave, I don't want to have their data anymore

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as if they never existed

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kinda like a mc server

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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but if you had to deal with the limits of the integer, it can get a bit complicated but its pretty easy. And that is you would just make use of 2 arrays and combine them together when you need the data. The hard part is keeping organized in way that both are in sync together lol

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Use HashMap?

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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it temporary stores all online players

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hashmap has no limit?

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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And remove them when they leave?

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A hashmap is like an array list

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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hashmap has the same limit

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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exactly

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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But you can pull the player by their UUID

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You could do like

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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but if over Integer.MAX_VALUE

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players

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ik it sounds unrealistic

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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you just create a second array

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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but its good to prepare or know how to handle it

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is it not possible to automate it

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Map<UUID, PlayerData>

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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thsn constantly adding new arraylists

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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anyways odds are you are not going to hit the int limit with the amount of players XD

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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I mean

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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or maps

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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You'll never hit 2.147 billion online at a time anyways

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So, I think you'll be fine

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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LMAO

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haha

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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no game server has yet either

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so if yours does you would have broken the world record

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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What is double limit

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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which currently eve online holds that record if I recall 😉

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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why did java set the limit to 2 billion whatever

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Java didn't. That is the limit of a 32 bit integer

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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It's the length of a 64 bit data type

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32*

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Wait

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Yep

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32 bit

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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since most of the stuff in java was created before 64 bit came about, most everything is backed by the integer

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when 64bit came out, they added the long, but since 32bit was still popular, they didn't create alternative arrays and what not to be backed by a 64bit address space

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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64 bit's limit is way higher (2^64) versus 32 bit 2^32

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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yep

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if you really wanted to you could change the JVM source

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and just change the backing of the address space to 64bit 😉

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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ooh

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wait a sec

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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And then also, ints have negative values too so

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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if i use a long on a 32-bit system

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what happens

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double is 64-bit tho

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Uh, look up data types

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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so its confusing

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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They show you how many bits they are per data type

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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double does not use a 64bit address space

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it may be 64 bits, but that is because it uses 2 32bit address spaces

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Ok.

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Just think, like file size

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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NEED halp

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Or memory

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1 int = 4 bytes

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1 double = 8 bytes

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Etc

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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1 byte = 8 bits

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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So basically, to conserve memory, you would want to appropriately use data types

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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indeed

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Like, dont use Double if you dont need to

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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you could specify int16 as well if you wanted a smaller int

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Or, keep as many things Local as possible

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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?ask

worldly heathBOT Apr 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply.

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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ok

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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so can i get help from someone

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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And the data types are even more important if you ever plan to use MySQL

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

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this is my code

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so this code

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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@dusky herald I do use MYSQL

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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sets ur tab name and name tag

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but it has 16 char limit on the name tag

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idk how to fix it

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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why do you loop through the online players twice?

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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can someone help me

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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oh yea

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`why

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Lol you beat me to it

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Put the Scoreboard board outside of the loop

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And get rid of 1 loop

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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yea

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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to get around the limit, make a new line

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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that wont fix the 16 char problem

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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initiate the scoreboard out of the loops

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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16 char is all you got

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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no there is way to get more than 16

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:33 AM

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I dont think there is?

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Lol

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:33 AM

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in spigot forums they said u can use prefix + main + suffix to get 48 char

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but idk how to use them

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hypixel got over 16 char on their name tag

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so its possible

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📎 18f8a013f2f9dcb8b44d7d89c6a1c4fcbd8060bd.png

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this is 1.8 picture

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more than 16 char

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:35 AM

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@dusky herald do you know wgat <+ means

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i just figured out

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it existed

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:35 AM

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prefix and suffix doesn't count towards the limit on the line

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:35 AM

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haha

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:35 AM

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<+?

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:35 AM

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i accidentally did double <= value

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ij says no error

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:36 AM

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they dnt?

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:36 AM

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lmao

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Ahhh

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:36 AM

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<+*

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i mean <+

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Less than or equal to

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:36 AM

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well they said they do

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:36 AM

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ik <=

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<*

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<+*

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weird right

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fuc ij

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lmao

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Keyboard issues? Lmao

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:36 AM

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i thought i was dumb

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and never knew it existed

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lol

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Then what have you been doing?

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:37 AM

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i tried to do <=

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then keyboard fuced up

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and did <+

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and i saw no error

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lol

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Lmao

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:38 AM

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https://www.tutorialspoint.com/java/java_basic_operators.htm

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:38 AM

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k fucin operators

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fam

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:38 AM

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can anyone focus on my issue

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:38 AM

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frostalf lmao

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IK OPERATORS

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:38 AM

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the only way to get past the limit is to use the prefix and suffix with the line

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the main line itself has a 16 character limit

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:39 AM

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<=, >=, !, ||, ==

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there is more

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:39 AM

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you are going to have to do checks yourself to ensure what you want is in the proper place

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:39 AM

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yes

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:39 AM

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bitshift operators are awesome

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fastest way to do math in java or simply change numbers without much processing 😛

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:40 AM

#

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:40 AM

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📎 2020-04-14_12.40.09.png

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:40 AM

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lol

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:40 AM

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thats when i use prefix

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I GUESS u were wrong prefix has a limit

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16 char

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:41 AM

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He never said it didnt

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:41 AM

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the only way I have known to get around the limit is to make a new line

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that is blank

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:41 AM

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You'll get 16 chars per

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:42 AM

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if anything go find a scoreboard plugin that supposedly exceeds the limit and see how they do it 😉

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generally easier if you can find an open source plugin

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:43 AM

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@dusky herald weird question, when initiating doubles, many people initiate differently, some people just initiate integers like
double a= 100;
some people do 100D(D is optional but is there areason to do it, cos you waste your time lol) and some people do 100.0 like me

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is there a reason why people

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do it so different

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maybe im missing something

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Doesnt really matter

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:43 AM

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ok

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:43 AM

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It's still a double

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:43 AM

#

yea

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why do they do it then

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adding the D is useless

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they wasted one character

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lol

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Double and double are different. One is boxed the other is unboxed. same goes for 100d and 100D

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Double is just a wrapper class for a primitive double type

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:44 AM

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the second version is just convenience especially if you were going to translate it to a different data type anyways

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:44 AM

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i mean a class

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its not primitive

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:44 AM

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double is primitive

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Double* is not

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:44 AM

#

I said primitive double type

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Lol

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:44 AM

#

he said Double and double are diff

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so yea

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Double isn't

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:45 AM

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They are. Double is a wrapper class. double is a primitive data type

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:45 AM

#

^

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:45 AM

#

Double.getClass()

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oh

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ur right

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haha

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Integer i = new Integer(5);
        
int i = new int(1);```

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the second line will give an error

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that's what im tryna say

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:46 AM

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because you already defined i

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can't define it again

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:46 AM

#

using new int is incorrect anyways

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:46 AM

#

oh

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yea

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:46 AM

#

And int isnt an object

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:46 AM

#

still erorr

#

yea

#

i said Double is an object

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:46 AM

#

int i = 1

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:46 AM

#

yes

#

IK java lmao

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im just tryna make sense of some stuff

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that made no sense

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to see if they have a reason

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 AM

#

The wrapper classes are useful for certain things.

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They have utility purposes

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 AM

#

HERE wanna see some example of java

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 AM

#

why does an arraylist not let u enter in int

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 AM

#

I AM GOD

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 AM

#

Becayse

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 AM

#

@dusky herald

#

like

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int.class

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 AM

#

It only takes objects

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 AM

#

because int is not an object

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 AM

#

ok

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:47 AM

#

No primitive data types

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 AM

#

its just annoying converting Integer to int soemtimes

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 AM

#

imagine getting chunk banned

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 AM

#

haha

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 AM

#

Just cast it

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 AM

#

you don't need to convert Integer to int o.O

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Or dont convert it at all

naive goblet Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Lmao

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Doesnt really matter

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:48 AM

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i like having it as int

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looks hotter, hotter than my wife

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ok lets go to #general

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 AM

#

It's better to use primitives anyways

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 AM

#

that is what i say fam

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 AM

#

And use the classes as you need them

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 AM

#

btw, u said only use double when u need it

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 AM

#

and then do the fancy boxing and unboxing unnecessarily like many do and then cast it anyways at the end 😄

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 AM

#

versus an int

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:49 AM

#

so i should use floats more

#

what about vs float

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 6:50 AM

#

using the lowercase or uppercase d both creates the primitive type not the wrapper

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:50 AM

#

Pick the data type based on the range you expect to utilize.

naive goblet Apr 14, 2020, 6:50 AM

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Why make an unnecessary cast

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Only cast if it’s needed

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:50 AM

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cos int is so hot

#

jk, alright

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:50 AM

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floats are more resource intensive fyi.

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:51 AM

#

really

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:51 AM

#

and have even less precision

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:51 AM

#

wow, but they are not as acurate

#

yea

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:51 AM

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more so that its actually used as a measurement for your CPU in how many floating points it can calculate 😉

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:51 AM

#

double means double precision

naive goblet Apr 14, 2020, 6:51 AM

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You should probably use BigDecimal for that or something

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(Precision)

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:52 AM

#

?

#

i spelled precision ryte.

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:52 AM

#

also to note, if you need to turn a float into an int, make use of the rounding functions to round your float. Otherwise you can end up with unexpected numbers. for instance 0.0000000000001 can still equal 1 which is weird sometimes

naive goblet Apr 14, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Yeah (:

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:53 AM

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alright

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:54 AM

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usually it happens when you do the casting

naive goblet Apr 14, 2020, 6:54 AM

#

System.exit(0); is still most useful code here

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:54 AM

#

yes

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Math.round()

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usful

#

what does Math.abs stand for

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:54 AM

#

Absolute

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:54 AM

#

absolute

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:54 AM

#

oh yea

tiny dagger Apr 14, 2020, 6:54 AM

#

0.1 + 02! = 0.3

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:54 AM

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means remove the signs

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:55 AM

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sorry, I don't do school in English here.

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:55 AM

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i found a solution i am gonna check the player name and if the player name length is aboe 16 the extra char will then be shown as suffix

naive goblet Apr 14, 2020, 6:55 AM

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It means the muscles obv

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:55 AM

#

lol

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:55 AM

#

Ik what abs does

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Just i never knew what it stood for.

grave crest Apr 14, 2020, 6:55 AM

#

how is the solution

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 6:55 AM

#

float can only store powers of two nicely

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:55 AM

#

there is all kinds of math functions in java

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 6:55 AM

#

so 0.5 is fine

#

wait

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

Math.round() is garbage

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

Ok

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

ah yes

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

if you get a run on float, it will generally be appended with a 1 sometimes too

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

so 0.5+0.25 is fine

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

also another weird thing of java

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

Use +.5 before you do round

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

but if you go off the additions of 2s

#

then it messes up

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

😂

#

If you dont add .5 before round it will lower

#

2.99999999 becomes 2

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 6:57 AM

#

you mean 3

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:57 AM

#

that is if you have it round down. It can also round up as well

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:57 AM

#

IKR

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:57 AM

#

Wrongggg

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:57 AM

#

I was so mad when that happened

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:57 AM

#

2.99999 rounds to 2

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:57 AM

#

2.99999999 becomes 2
@dusky herald so annoying

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this float is ass

#

it succs ass

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:57 AM

#

no, I meant there is a function to round it up

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 6:58 AM

#

Math.ceil

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:58 AM

#

you could also use Math.min as well or Math.max

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 6:58 AM

#

those dont round

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:58 AM

#

guys I learned a lot of math because of java

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 6:58 AM

#

they just get the smaller or bigger number

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 6:58 AM

#

Ceil does the opposite of what I'd want it to do

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:59 AM

#

🙏 java

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:59 AM

#

nope but you can combine them with round though

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:59 AM

#

before for me, all math functions, seemed like part of java

#

Like I thought Math.abs was "invented" by java

#

lol

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:59 AM

#

lol

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 6:59 AM

#

im like

#

u smart

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 6:59 AM

#

fortunately in java unlike say the C languages you don't have to worry about pointers 😉

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:00 AM

#

use c++ boiz

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:00 AM

#

i mean the Math package is part of java...

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:00 AM

#

You could use c# too

#

Lol

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:00 AM

#

lol

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:00 AM

#

It is, but its all basic math

#

Not like they are some math scientists

#

its nothing

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:00 AM

#

as basic as you want it to be

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:00 AM

#

Or if you really wanna be tough just code in binary

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:01 AM

#

well that would be just setting everything to a byte array

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:01 AM

#

people like my jsloader bro

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:01 AM

#

and then doing bitshifting on those bytes

#

XD

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:01 AM

#

i code in assembly

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x86 tho

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I enjoy it

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:01 AM

#

until you have to mess with compatibility between intel and amd

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:02 AM

#

use MASM

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:02 AM

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there is no compatibility lmao

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:02 AM

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I use Microsoft assembly

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iont even know the full name

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:02 AM

#

or just join the rest of us in 2020 and use java or c#

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:03 AM

#

I use them anyways

#

Assembly is nice

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:03 AM

#

I program in msdos

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:03 AM

#

what is that

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:03 AM

#

msdos is fun sometimes

#

miss them old days of 3.1

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:04 AM

#

2 people liked it https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/jsloader-now-free.77360/

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im proud

#

the first resource that got a like

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:04 AM

#

MSDOS is old school

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:04 AM

#

and 2 even

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:04 AM

#

That's what it is

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:04 AM

#

I am new school

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:04 AM

#

the only annoying part of msdos is when you are making a program and there is in an error in there somewhere

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and then you have to go hunt through it all to find it

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:05 AM

#

That applies to all coding

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:06 AM

#

while true, back then there was no IDE's

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:06 AM

#

Woo 3 more hours til I go home

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:06 AM

#

yay]

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:06 AM

#

you literally programmed the 1's and 0's and if you had a 1 in the wrong place odd things happened but the hard part was figuring out where you went wrong though. Its not like it underlines it for you and says hey this is not right

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

and its 2 am for u

#

@dusky herald

#

what are u doing outside

#

ma guy went CLUBBING

#

ahaha

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

I'm at work?

#

Lol

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

at 2am?

#

oh..

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

Yeah

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

um

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

now a days with IDE's its so much simpler other then the abstracted higher languages being much nicer at times to work with

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

weird mf

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

People work at night y'know

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:07 AM

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not fulltime tho

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unless youa nurse or some shit

#

lol

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:08 AM

#

there is many jobs that work fulltime at night

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IE security

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:08 AM

#

ight

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:09 AM

#

📎 20190911_213137.jpg

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My view rn

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:09 AM

#

face reveal

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:09 AM

#

ah crane operator or just the driver

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:09 AM

#

They’re the crane

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:09 AM

#

The seat is the driver and operators seat

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:10 AM

#

ah

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:10 AM

#

It's just a rough terrain swing cab crane

#

100 Ton (US Tons) capacity

fleet crane Apr 14, 2020, 7:10 AM

#

discord while working

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:10 AM

#

That's like 90k kg

#

I'm not even doing anything at work 😂

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:11 AM

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are we gonna see some headlines tomorrow

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:11 AM

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well, I operated tanks. That is the heaviest equipment I used.

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:11 AM

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In the military?

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:11 AM

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no outside the military because I love having me a tank on the road 😉

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yes In the military lol

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:11 AM

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I drove Strykers around before, the M1133s at least

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I hated them

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:11 AM

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I hate strykers

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Lmao

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:11 AM

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they break without touching them

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you look at it wrong and something breaks

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Basically

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M1133 is the MEV version

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:12 AM

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can someone follow me https://github.com/purplexdev

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i have no followres

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so do me a favor

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:13 AM

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one of things I loved about the military is when it comes to some of the random tests they do

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:13 AM

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And btw I've been out for a few years now, I hear tanks and I think of a lot more things than just the vehicle tanks lol

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:13 AM

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My brother got to be part of the test of, can a bradley turret fit on a M113

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sure enough they managed to fit a bradley turret on a M113, but turned out it wasn't very effective though

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Or they go crazy at the end of the fiscal year

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:14 AM

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yeah that was part of my job

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:14 AM

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I remember I was giving medical support for a range

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Shooting off AT-4s

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And we had I recall about 110 rounds

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:14 AM

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lets spend 1-2 million dollars on items and not only on items but I have to justify why I need said items as well

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Of the actual AT-4 round, not the 9mm tracers

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:15 AM

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AT-4 rockets can be fun

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Yeah I just remember hearing nobody has ever seen so many rounds at one range lmao

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Or they coulda just been fuckin with me idk

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:16 AM

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so, one of the tests btw I actually got to see not in person but on video which the Army tries to keep covered up. Is the test of dropping an abrams out of a globemaster

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Idk what a globemaster even is tbh

grim sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:16 AM

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army bois? 😮

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:16 AM

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C-17

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Okay

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Never heard that name before haha

grim sapphire Apr 14, 2020, 7:17 AM

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(hooyah from a fellow sailor 😉 )

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Well, lets just say the Army will not attempt that test ever again

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Hooyah lel

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:17 AM

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it was the most expensive test considering the tank was a complete loss

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Army says hooah

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As much as I hated saying it

sturdy inlet Apr 14, 2020, 7:17 AM

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Hey i was wanting to take my server from 1.15 to 1.8 and unsure on how to do this

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:17 AM

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used to be HUA until the panda organization trademarked it >>

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:18 AM

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Lmao

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Jacked

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:18 AM

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it stands for Heard Understood Acknowledged. Changed to Hooah so the sound stayed the same lol

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:18 AM

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Yeah, I do remember that at least

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I just didnt know about the trademark part

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:19 AM

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yeah, Army didn't think it needed to do that

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but then the Panda organization trademarked it and used it against the Army lmao

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Idk how an abbreviation can even be trademarked

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Lol

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:21 AM

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idk just know that is why the Army had to change the spelling on their slogan

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of course this time around Hooah is trademarked

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:22 AM

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I definitely dont miss the Army.

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:22 AM

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anyways, in case you were curious about that tank test. The reason it came about is because the Russians dropped a BRD out of plane with a crew and safely parachuted it to the ground

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:23 AM

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Makes sense, Russians are fuckin crazy

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:23 AM

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the math for the Abrams being parachuted wasn't exact. In other words in theory it could work. In reality, it didn't. It just came smacking into the Earth like no other and basically obliterated.

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:23 AM

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They probably designed it to support the weight of the tank

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Which is a flaw

sturdy inlet Apr 14, 2020, 7:23 AM

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ебать тебя

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вы гей

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:24 AM

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BRD that was dropped didn't weigh 75tons battle ready either

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:24 AM

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It would have to be designed to withstand the shock load force of the tank

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At least 5x the weight of the tank

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So 75x5 around 375 tons

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Would probably be about how strong you want your chute to be

sturdy inlet Apr 14, 2020, 7:25 AM

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does anyone know like a generator i could use to put my serrver discripton

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:25 AM

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well, the chutes deployed just fine, just didn't slow the tank like they needed too since all the chutes couldn't take up all the surface area it needed without taking space from the others.

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:25 AM

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Ah

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I was thinking they broke

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Yeah youd need a big ass parachute

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:26 AM

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yeah, well Army tested it just so they could say yeah we tried it, didn't work

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but a tank costs like $5mil per though so it was just one big expensive test to just figure out, yeah we can't do that

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well $10mil now if you factor in inflation lol

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:27 AM

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Just to show power...be like yeah we can just drop these boys and fuck your shit up real quick

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:28 AM

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it would be cool if we could just air drop tanks anywhere

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:28 AM

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Air dropping wouldnt work that well anyways

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Youd have to do it in large open areas

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:28 AM

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I know for fact if we could, the Army would be air dropping them on mountains XD

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for now, we have to use C-5 galaxies to get them in the mountains lol

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:28 AM

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Lmao

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But anyways, large open areas because you cant control your landing

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It's just gonna go where it drops

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Lmao

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:29 AM

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yep, and then if the rigger didn't rig them chains right, your vehicle will also go rolling away 5 miles or so away

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😄

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Rigging is fun

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I do that too

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But I was a medic in the army 😂

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:30 AM

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currently most vehicles are not straight air dropped unless they are light vehicles. If they have armor they just do a runway drop. But those runway drops can be funny though

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especially if its not your supplies they are dropping

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Rigging at my job is more fun anyways

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Bullrigging shit can be exhausting but fun

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:31 AM

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lol

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Satisfaction of shoving 30k lb valves in ways you never thought possible 😂

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In tight ass places lol

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:32 AM

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I went through Air assault school. So I got to learn how to rig stuff to helicopters. I thought I was just going to learn how to jump out of helicopters and just repel in etc. Nope, you get to learn how to do loadouts for various vehicles, how they have to be attached etc.

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Definitely more advanced rigging practices here than the Army does, since Army likes to keep it simple

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But

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It's all relative anyways

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:32 AM

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yeah, have to keep it simple

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not everyone is exactly smart in the Army >>

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Army doesnt give a fuck about safety either

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:33 AM

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you know, I have almost died in the Army mostly because of other soldiers and while state side as well.

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:33 AM

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"Yeah we did a risk assessment, only a few of us might die, that's worth it"

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:33 AM

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I have had a grenade thrown at me, fortunately I had a bunker for cover. I have almost been ran over or squished by a tank 3 different times.

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:34 AM

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People not paying attention

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And I guess someone didnt like you

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:34 AM

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I have had a soldier have a runaway machine gun and decided to walk with it, instead of just leaving it on the ground and just watch it like you are supposed to.

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Or made a big uh oh

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Lmao what a tard

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The funny thing about rigging outside the Army is

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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I went to the range with uparmored humvee's and we were doing our range qualifications for the .50 cal on the humvee's

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Everyone I work around thinks they know how to do it, just cause they know basic stuff lol

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And also ignore the fact I'm the only one here qualified to do it atm lol

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:37 AM

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so we have 2 lanes, but 1 lane operates at a time while the others on the other lane just sit back and wait. Well we were doing our night training portion. So someone had the bright idea to not only mark the targets with green chem lights but also mark the vehicles with green chem lights. Generally not a big deal though because your targets are in front of you. Well my humvee got shot up with .50 cal rounds because the guy on the turret decided to shoot left -.-

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yeah basic stuff helps

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but doesn't mean you are an expert at it

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:38 AM

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That's Army logic right there

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:38 AM

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or qualified to just randomly hook things up because you think it should work

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Make it all green fuck it lol

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Lol, we had a guy who was always like I know what I'm doing

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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yeah until someone dies or nearly dies

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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And I was helping him and he asked to rig it his way

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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then you will think otherwise >>

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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And I told him no and to suck a dick because it would literally invert

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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not usually a good thing to have happen

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:39 AM

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And he goes and gets someone and says I'm not doing it right

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And I say only, show him how you want it then

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So he changes it all and everyone looks at him like hes a fucking dumbass

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:40 AM

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lol

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:40 AM

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Lmao

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It's like he got a bright idea

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:40 AM

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you know its one thing if its just you and someone else. But when you have everyone else disagreeing with you that should clue you in that just maybe what you are doing isn't quite right

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:40 AM

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But forgot Center of Mass still exists

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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how can you forget that o.O

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Easy

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Hes not qualified to do the job

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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lmao

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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@dusky herald i got a question

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:41 AM

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That's pretty much it, this is stuff you never had to be certified or anything to do in the past

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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when catching an exception, is it better to specify which exception, or is it ok to just use Exception generally

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does it affect performance

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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It all changed because people died a lot from stupid bullshit

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Specify the exception

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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or anyone can answer

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Performance wise affect?

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Generally its better to catch the specific exception so that you don't accidentally catch exceptions you didn't want to catch

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Generally its better to catch the specific exception so that you don't accidentally catch exceptions you didn't want to catch
@keen compass ignore that part

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ignore that case

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but

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generally

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why not just use Exception when i only expect one exception

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like instead of a null

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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there is no performance difference other then, if its not your exception it won't register

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Sometimes I am unsure what exception Iw ill get

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If I try to access a config value that doesn't exist

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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But you don't have to handle the exception if you don't want to either btw

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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what exception do i get

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lets say its a boolean

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what exception do I get

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null right?

hoary parcel Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Just try catch throwable everywhere

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Your exception depends on how you're trying to retrieve it first.

hoary parcel Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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No exceptions anywhere in your code then 😂

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Boolean val = getConfig()...

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so i know if the value exists

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i catch a null

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right

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Boolean cant be null

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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I've always just used Exception, but I wanna specify

hoary parcel Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Expected behavior should never raise exceptions

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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so it will just be false

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?

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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It either is Null like it doesnt exist

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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I JUST SAID

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Or true or false

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:44 AM

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u said it cant be null

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then u said it can be null

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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You said "if I know it exists"

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Then it cant be null

hoary parcel Apr 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Just always call config with default values

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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if a boolean is null you will get a null pointer exception

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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so that I know if it exists

hoary parcel Apr 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Way less hassel that way

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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if the Boolean value doesn't exist

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in the config

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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If it doesnt exist, then its null

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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exactly

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so nullpointer

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ok t

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Then you get NullPointerException

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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y

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why is it called nullpointer

hoary parcel Apr 14, 2020, 7:45 AM

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If Sure hope you don't try to catch a nullpointer exception...

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Because objects are pointers

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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because the pointer that is expected to have data doesn't have data and therefore its an exception

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Ok

hoary parcel Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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C# calls it null reference, might be a bit more clear

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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you only get a nullpointerexception when you try to call a method or field on an object that is null

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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thanks forstalf

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Yeah

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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just having a null object doesnt cause an NPE

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you have to try to do something on it

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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ik what is FRICIN IS

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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You can also

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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you guys explain the wrong thing

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I just asked about the name

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Just do a Null Check

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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or use Optionals

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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ik how null pointer exceptions work

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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theyre much better than excessive null checking

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Then you wont get a null pointer exception

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Ok

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IK

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i just asked WHY ITS CALLED

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nullpointer

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lmao

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thanks for the answer

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frostalf

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:47 AM

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You can also

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That's all I got

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:47 AM

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lol

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:47 AM

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lmao

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you guys give me a whole introduction o java

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lmao

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Just try stick to answering what was asked

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cos you were explaining what a nullpointerexception is

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:48 AM

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I just think it's funny how some people ask questions like

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:48 AM

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and more

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lmao

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and im like, I JUST ASKED WHY ITS CALLED NULLPOINTER

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:48 AM

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well, I think we are in common agreeance we don't just give answers. We like to ensure that you get all the necessary information with why the answer is what it is or why it is.

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:48 AM

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Hey I'm working on a plugin what does main extends JavaPlugin mean? Just help me out I dont want to learn a lot of Java, reading is boring so just tell me how to do this

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:49 AM

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i didn't ask that

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I could ask, why did they name the class JavaPlugin

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:49 AM

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I wasnt talking about you

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:49 AM

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and not Plugin

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:49 AM

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Lol

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:49 AM

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then you: JavaPlugin is the superclass

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your main class must extend it

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:49 AM

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Because JavaPlugin extends Plugin

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:49 AM

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add its directory in its config

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see u did it again

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lmao

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oh

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good explanation actuall

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they coluldn't think of another name

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:50 AM

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PluginBase mb

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Close enough

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:50 AM

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you dont need to use those classes

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you can just directly implement Plugin

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Plugin is Ambiguous without some kind of identifier.

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also it depends if Plugin exists already too

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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but by extending JavaPlugin / BasePlugin they do some of the work for you

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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I know his point though

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But why is it called JavaPlugin

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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because they needed another name

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Because its a Plugin made in Java 😄

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Isnt that as ambiguous as calling it Plugin?

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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they need a name that isnt Plugin

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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😂

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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so they came up with JavaPlugin

keen compass Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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pretty much

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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"I'm coding a plugin in Java, fuck it JavaPlugin"

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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@dusky herald will this give me an error

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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BukkitPlugin wouldve probably been better

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:51 AM

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 boolean val = getConfig().getBoolean("bar_enabled");
 val = (val == (Boolean) null) ? true : val;```

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:52 AM

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PornHub

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:52 AM

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I want default to be true

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Put it before?

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If(getConfig().getBoolean("bar-enabled") != null)

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:52 AM

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what

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Ok

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that looks ugly

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:53 AM

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and you dont need to cast the null lmao

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Probably is

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I'm on my phone

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:53 AM

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u cant do that

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u must cast to bolean

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you must

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:53 AM

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the null?

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:53 AM

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yea

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:53 AM

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wtf

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:53 AM

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open IntelliJ

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i get error for doing this

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if(getConfig().getBoolean("bar_enabled") != null) {
            
        }```

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u need to cast null to (Boolean) null

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Oh sorry try

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:54 AM

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oh i know why

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:54 AM

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getConfig has exists right?

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:54 AM

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because a primitive type can never be null

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so that null will never happen

dusky herald Apr 14, 2020, 7:54 AM

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Just do exists("bar-enabled")

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:54 AM

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so it will be false

lofty otter Apr 14, 2020, 7:54 AM

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because that method cannot return null

frigid ember Apr 14, 2020, 7:55 AM

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exists doesn't exist