#Need a new pc mainly for video editing but also some gaming capabilities.

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balmy copper
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Ideal budget would be:: £1,500, but I can push it back another month or so to go a bit higher, Keep in mind I do not have a desk yet. Will be looking into that.

I do a university course about film and tv production, and all though I do not mind having to go there at times as I will need to in group meetings, but I don't live directly near it and takes a journey all the time to get there. I do have a surface pro 7, but it doesn't have the best specs good enough to hold big projects and is quite slow. So I would like a proper workstation in my room to turn towards.

The Video Editing software I will likely be using are these 3:
Avid Media Composer
Davinci Resolve
Adobe Premier Pro

Since I'm getting a PC, I thought that it should be able to run a few games I have in mind while I'm at it. I know generally a lot of PC's are made with a specific work in mind(e.g a gaming PC), and some just get two diffrent pc's if they need them for specific needs. But for me, I would like a PC that can do my video editing but still run a few of these games. Here's my list:

The Games I would like to work:
Lethal Company
Elder Scrolls: Skyrim(with decent modding capabilities
Sonic Generations (With decent modding capabilities)
Fraymakers
Rivals of Aether
Minecraft Java and Bedrock
Garry's Mod

Games I'm not that bothered about but am wondering how much the budget would bump up if I were to want to run them as there is some interest. Let me know!:
GTA V
Phasmaphobia
Armoured
Starfield

Hope anyone could help me out with this! I would like responses of spec suggestions if I were to just either get a PC for the video editing, video editing and the games I mainly want and potentially those with the Games I'm not that bothered about for comparison. Thank you for wasting your time on me to help!

stray estuary
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I think you'll need to stick to 1080p for your budget, as if it's going to be mostly for video editing then you want to focus more on the CPU than the GPU. This is why I've gone with the Intel 14700 as it's stronger for video encoding/decoding than AMD and 64GB RAM to handle those 4k video files. The 4060 is a solid 1080p gaming GPU combined with all that.

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GPU Performance Rankings

First check what resolution you are going to be gaming at then click the appropriate link below to see the current GPU rankings as catagorised by Tomshardware.

1080p Ultra Settings:

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balmy copper
little oasis
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you wouldn't be able to get a 4k card for 2k but a 1440p card in the 4070 super. given you want to install games and have videos stored on your pc you may need more than 2tb plus boot drive but more like 3tb 4tb or more if high quality videos. given the current issues with i7s and i9s in intel 13th and 14th gen degrading and breaking so i would recommend amd especially as you wouldn't want your pc breaking on you during a uni work so something like this i would recommend if you want a good gaming and good uni pc. if downgrading graphics card the 4070 above it is not the standard 4070 but the refreshed gddr6 non x 4070 which is about 5% worse in performance than the original 4070 gddr6x

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obviously without any extra storage for uni videos etc you would need to add that on or you may already have external drives if you are flipping between a surface and a desktop

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this is the top amd processor so rivals the i7 and i9. it also is the best for fps in gaming and gets the most out of the graphics cards

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If it wasn't for uni i would have maybe suggested risking it with intel but they're breaking at too high of a rate to say you would be fine and the x3d chips are very hard to not recommend if wanting productivity and also gaming

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if just productivity you could take the standard 7950x and just have a few less fps in games but same more or less productivity for like £30 less so imo it's worth it to have the 3d part

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also am5 for amd is supported till 2027 so it is way more easily upgradeable going forward cpu wise.

stray estuary
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Depending on what video file format you will be editing, AMD CPUs don't have hardware decoding like the Intel chips do with Quicksync to make things faster. This is why I chose an Intel CPU for your specific video editing case as I've personally worked with AMD and Intel CPUs and with the RAW file formats that come off the Sony A7, the Intel is quicker for editing with.

It's true that we're on the last generation of Intel CPUs for the current platform, whereas AMD are on a new platform - but I still would recommend Intel over AMD for your use case.

As for fitting a 4k gaming card into your build - not really possible with a £2k budget. The closest you'd get is going with the 7900XT and upping the PSU to compensate, but that's not really a 4k gaming card.

Below is a CPU benchmark just as example which shows the 14900k (a consumer CPU) sitting up with the AMD Threadrippers (expensive, workstation CPUs).

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balmy copper
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Interesting...

Thank you both for your inputs! I don't have a full understanding of PC Knowledge so some of this is a tad confusing but I believe O get the general gist.

The 4k thing isn't an issue for me. I was just asking because I wanted to know if it was possible for a 2k budget, realistically I'm not going to go over my ideal budget of £1,500 as much as I can. Since I still do have to consider on buying a desk, chair and monitor.

Besides I'm quite fourtunate in my position as I'm living at home away from where my university is. So I get to keep a good portion of my money from employment and save student finance money for anything I deemed needed or serious. Realisticly, I believe I could save up a good amount over time if I ever wanted to upgrade or even buy a seperate PC for both to be honest. I just needed one right now and I thought I should have a crack at making sure it could handle some light gaming I can mess with. Storage wise for my video editing side of thing I'll probably doing a lot from an external hardrive, so internal storage I don't think would be a massive issue for me in the retrospect, just need my games and softwares on that really.

Anyways I'm going to get some second opinions on that fisrt one, maybe from the forums and from some other people that I think know their stuff too. Thanks again! @stray estuary @little oasis

balmy copper
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@stray estuary Hello again! I just wanted to ask about the 4060 in the setup you siggested as I'm seing alot of negativity around it. It doesn't seem bad but apparently there are better cheaper options like a 3060. I'm guessing thi this is maybe from the video editing side of things?

old crypt
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the 3060 is actually more expensive from PCS, as for the hate for the 4060, it's not that the card is bad, it's bad value, thats pretty much all the hate around it

balmy copper
stray estuary
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And to see significant enough increases in performance, you'll have to look to spend an extra £150-£200 on the graphics card.

balmy copper
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Ah I see. I've been looking at comparisons anyway and it really doesn't even seem bad especially in my case. I kept seeing alot about vram difference but as long as its fine for these older or simpler looking titles I believe ot should be fine

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I'm a console guy at heart so im not gonna be playing alot of bigger high end titles on this

stray estuary
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VRAM only tends to come into play at higher resolutions, so if you're sticking to 1080p you really shouldn't have a problem.

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with gaming anyway. VRAM is important if you move into 3D rendering but not for video editing 🙂

old crypt
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VRAM can help at 1080p for a smoother frame rate on the demanding games, but yeah, the 4060 is fine as long as you don't care about the value for money

balmy copper
balmy copper
stray estuary
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the 16gb version is on the 4060ti

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and it's a jump in price with a reasonable jump in performance

silk musk
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in my experience, i game at 1080p, your graphics card will prob only be using about 3 GB vram most of the time

balmy copper
hardy cypress
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i can say myself for starfield at 1080p its not vram hungry at all

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from a hardware unboxed video about 2 months ago

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balmy copper
silk musk
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you have to bear in mind that 1080p resolution has been around for a long time. any graphics card from the last 7 years will probably be ok !

hardy cypress
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im guessing when you mena armoured in the game list you mean armored core 6

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the games in would like to work have been out for ages so i dont see any way those would use up more than 8gb vram

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unless skyrim has some sort of super demanding graphics mod

balmy copper
# hardy cypress unless skyrim has some sort of super demanding graphics mod

I dont think i'll be doing a whole lot graphics wise like at most i'll get some retextures but im not getting ought massive.
As for the armor game its not armoured core 6, I only know about the game cuz its like some realistic WW2 shooter, like proper realistic with some mod intergration. But now looking it up I can't actually find it😂 I know it has armor in the name

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Not a main prority game anyways

hardy cypress
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everything in the would like to run would not be vram hungry at all so 8gb should be fine

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same with gta v unless you throw loads of graphics mods on it you wont get anywhere near 8gb vram usage

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Phasmaphobia reccomended gpu is a 2060 which was a 6gb vram card so 8gb should be plenty there as well

balmy copper
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Someone on the reddit replied and they made a shortened down message because I didn't really get there long one. They said "In a nutshell you should up the size of the OS Nvme to at least 1Gb and possibly get a faster one of you can afford it. We'd suggest Samsung 1Tb 990 pro M2 from the dropdown list you're using. It'll be a very useful £70 difference in performance in games and editing"

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Obvs it prob is better but I'm not sure if it's necessary. Like how fast do I need my video editing to be? And for the games I'm playing I don't think it's massively needed

hardy cypress
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i dont know about video editing but in games speed does not matter much if at all right now

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and with the games your looking at it wont matter at all

balmy copper
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Thought as much on the gaming side

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Well then I think I'm pretty much going to use this build. But I.m gonna slightly pass my budget because I think my future self might value the extra VRAM in the 4060 ti. and a tad increase in case with the : CORSAIR 3000D AIRFLOW MID TOWER GAMING CASE. Overall, £1,706 pounds spent and I think I can live with that.

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I know that I could do windows 11 myself for cheaper but I'm not too sure.

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I'm going to wait till someone can chime in on the editing side of that reddit comment

hardy cypress
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the more vram will definitly be useful if you decide to play newer games some ask for more than the 8gb vram at very high settings right now even at 1080p

silk musk
# balmy copper I'm going to wait till someone can chime in on the editing side of that reddit c...

as far as i can tell from the build you have been recommended, your OS is going to be installed to its own 512 GB very fast M.2 drive (bearing in mind Windows probably will only actually take up ~ 100GB of space in any case). the idea being your games and video editing data will be stored on different drive(s). so i am not sure why increasing the size/speed of your OS drive would impact gaming or editing in any significant way. maybe the person on reddit thought you were going to have everything stored on the same drive?

balmy copper
old crypt
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In general, the a fast OS drive helps the system run fast, but a 7000MB/s model is fine and any faster gives diminishing returns, however for editing video, the faster the better for that storage drive, but since gen 5 is the fastest, but also the most expensive, its a matter of how much lag will you up up with

balmy copper
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Ah okay. I honestly think I don't need to upgrade my OS drive right away from what it already is. Maybe in the future.