formal gazelle
Would love help with trying to configure a gaming PC build. Had my Lenovo Legion 5 only 3 years, last week it overheated & fried the chip for cpu & gpu. Laptop is now dead.
Games I play include Planet Zoo, Planet Coaster, City Skylines, Flight Simulator, The Witcher etc.
I’m looking for something that has a lot of RAM memory, graphics card & something that won’t overheat as easily.
Very overwhelmed right now with all the options. But hoping I have a nice budget to work with.
sullen perchBOT
plucky sierra
@formal gazelle If you can answer the extra questions above like resolution and country
formal gazelle
Resolution 1440p but thinking of purchasing a 4k monitor in the future.
Ireland.
frigid sandal
https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/2j0PpA5VgF/
best gaming CPU, a over-specced cooler to make sure it stays cool, big case with good airflow, ample fast storage
32GB of RAM will have you sorted for most games, but since there is still some elbow room in the budget you can bump it to 64GB
plucky sierra
Solid build from DrLeft above @formal gazelle 🙂
frigid sandal
I went overkill on a few things, the motherboard could be downsized, GPU could have an AMD alternative to same some, the 4Tb drive could be swapped to a 2TB, the case could be a less expensive option, but in for a penny in for a euro, no?
cooler could be smaller too, but for peace of mind overkill is barely enough
formal gazelle
I went overkill on a few things, the motherboard could be downsized, GPU could h...
Looks like a great make, would love to see it in all its glory, how many fans does it have, was thinking of adding more.
frigid sandal
it won't have space for more, the case comes with 3 140mm fans on the front, and 1 on the back, with the AIO on top it will ahve 3 more 120mm fans
the PSU shroud might be able to mount more, but they won't benefit much in my experience
nope, the shoudl doesn't mount more, so 7 in total, no need to add more, unless you want to change the ones that come with out later
wary sluice
Even if you could easily fit in extra fans all it would likely do is make it louder
formal gazelle
the PSU shroud might be able to mount more, but they won't benefit much in my ex...
Thanks, so no extra fans, I’ve upped the ram to 2 x32gb, but what’s the benefit of upping the ryzen, need to get a monitor also, any recommendations.
frigid sandal
there is no real benefit to a different CPU, the 7800X3D is the best for gaming, if you also wanted some productivity like editing or coding, then there is an argument for the 7950X3D, or did you mean the GPU?
if you meant changing GPU, then it's price, you get better value for money on AMD GPUs
changing to a 7900XTX gets you generally slightly better performance, while saving about 100eu, you do loose out on the Nvidia gimmicks like better ray tracing performance, frame gen, but you do get better AMD gimmicks like the zero lag tech
sullen perchBOT
frigid sandal
as for screen recommendations, what are you looking for, ultra wide, will you want a secondary monitor, what kind of refresh rate and panel type(VA, IPS, OLED) do you have in mind, and what kind of budget are you looking at?
and here, size matters, a monitor can be as good as it wants to be, but if it overwhelms your desk and then some, it's not the right one for you
formal gazelle
and here, size matters, a monitor can be as good as it wants to be, but if it ov...
Just the one monitor, my laptop was a 165 refresh rate, 4k, around 28-32 inch, not sure the meaning about panels, 500 euro & under
frigid sandal
IPS right now is best value, OLED is best overall, VA is most affordable
for 4K you really want a 32" or bigger screen, so 1440p is better for that size
also, running at 1440p will let you have a better frame rate
the different panels have different benefits, OLED is just best at it all, basically
IPS have good color reproduction and grey to grey repsonse times
VA tends to have better black than IPS, but can have something called ghosting
formal gazelle
also, running at 1440p will let you have a better frame rate
Can I just ask, the 2 storage options, one is solid pro gen & other Corsair, was there a reason you didn’t get the same?
frigid sandal
capacity and price.
if SolidIGM made a 4TB drive that PCS had in stock, and it was cheaper, they I would have gotten a SolidIGM
to be honest, a 2TB drive is likely enough to start with, but then you'd either need to swap the drive completely, or add another in later, and the games you listed before can get pretty big, pretty fast
formal gazelle
Price increases for Samsung 990 pro?
frigid sandal
the smaller SolidIGM is faster, and should only have windows and the diva programs that don't give a drive location choice, the games/general stroage drive doesn't need to be super fast, so a 990 pro is overkill for that
the 990 pro is about 80eu more, for no real benefit
honestly, a gen 3 drive would do just fine for that as well, but PCS don't offer any with 4TB space
in a comparison on load times for games, it shaves a few seconds off a 30+ second load time going from a gen 3 drive to a gen 5, and the price skyrockets for a few seconds
if it halved the load time, then yeah, I'd say worth, but mere seconds aren't a fair trade IMO
formal gazelle
How do I upload my saved quote so that he can see if it’s ok?
frigid sandal
why pick the 7950X3D? it's not quiet as good for gaming, still great mind you, but will generate more heat, and with it noise
the drives aren't how I'd set them either, as in the case windows gets corrupt beyond repair, or the drive wins the silicon lottery and dies on you, you loose all date on that drive, so a small drive for windows, and a big drive for everything else is better. the second, larger drive doesn't get wiped in a windows reinstall
the better paste also doesn't really benefit you, might as well save the 12 quid and spend it at the chipper
also, the Silver warranty is worth the piece of mind
formal gazelle
the drives aren't how I'd set them either, as in the case windows gets corrupt b...
See I don’t know the workings of the drives lol, here I’m thinking more space…. Also thinking newer ryzen card = better pc.
Games I’ll be playing are Planet Zoo, Planet Coaster, Flight Simulator, The Witcher, Final Fantasy 16 when it comes out, Sims, City Skylines etc. Lenovo Legion 5 died on me from overheating & destroyed the chip, only had it 3 years.
frigid sandal
https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/bxTJxW6xh5/
I'd recommend this, the motherboard is kinda overkill, but it does have a nice QoL feature for changing the GPU out, should you ever need to remove it
it's not as tidy as 2 drives, but saves some money
the 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU, so the extra cores on the 7950X3D just will end up heating your room and do nothing for you
the extra RAM is nice for the sims as it can be quite the hog, but also isn't needed per se
the CPU, 7800X3D is in my PC right now, and I am using a smaller cooler too, the FrostFlow 240, and the highest I've gotten it to under 100% load peaked at 80C, but stayed at 75C, and only has throttling at 90C, so with bigger FF360 in the spec for you will easily keep it from overheating
frigid sandal
if you wanted to lean into the full RGB everything, the strimmers are what I'd recommend
this set
@autumn mist got a pic on hand for how it looks?
autumn mist
frigid sandal
so your PC would look vaguely like this, and extra fan on top is the main difference
thank you btw Achilles!
frigid sandal
if you add them, your room will not need ceiling lights, and can function as a discoball
at least when the PC is running
formal gazelle
Thank you
frigid sandal
do mind, they are purely cosmetic, they add nothing to the function of the PC
formal gazelle
do mind, they are purely cosmetic, they add nothing to the function of the PC
Just quickly before I proceed, am I better getting the 4gb corsair ram instead of the 2 separate 2tb solidigm
frigid sandal
2TB saves money, but will occupy an extra m.2 slot, leaving you with only 1 slot left
personally for sake of tidiness, I'd pick the 4TB drive
formal gazelle
And led lighting? Where would that be?
frigid sandal
that is a strip of LED lights, added by the builder to their best judgement, I don't care for RGB really, but those are harsh LED lights and just look naff IMO
they aren't nicely diffused as all the other lights will be
frail wadi
frigid sandal
also, those lights will be ghoulish overkill at that point, there is already alot going on
formal gazelle
Yeah I guess you’re right, taking out the 2nd tb & changing to corsair 4gb price went down.
formal gazelle
Still playing around with the options. Haven’t bought yet as it’s alot of money & I just want to get it right.
https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/nMW5WQsKAc/
frigid sandal
change to the 7800X3D, more cores is not more better
https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/qpZGGU9gbJ/
changed to the 7800X3D change the second drive to a slower one as the load time differences are tiny, as in it only takes seconds of a minute
formal gazelle
https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/qpZGGU9gbJ/
changed...
Is there much difference with tuf gaming or rog strix motherboard in terms of performance.
Also would adding on 2 sets of 2 x 32gb ram be beneficial so 128 gb.
frigid sandal
for gaming 32x2 is generally more than enough, as for the motherboards, the differences are some QoL additions, and looks
formal gazelle
for gaming 32x2 is generally more than enough, as for the motherboards, the diff...
With those specs, im looking to add on a monitor, any benefit to ordering from PCS? Not sure how much of a selection they have, could also check Amazon.
frigid sandal
Amazon is your better bet, last I checked, the 1440p selection PCS has was underwhelming
formal gazelle
Amazon is your better bet, last I checked, the 1440p selection PCS has was under...
Thanks, i may just do that. I did see a nice Asus 4k 32 inch
formal gazelle
Is there a difference between Nvidia Geforce 4080 super vs Asus Tuf 4080 Super, theres about 200 euro in the difference.
frail wadi
It's called 'Asus tax'
formal gazelle
It's called 'Asus tax'
?
swift sentinel
he means your paying for the asus name there would be very little if any difference between the cards
formal gazelle
If i go down the route of Luna versions, and sticking with current options, which Case would you recommend similiar dimensions to black Be Quiet as they dont have the white version.
frigid sandal
sorry for the late response, didn't notice the question until now, there are a few options for size/space.
those four are the best for size/capacity
the Fractal north XL(198eu) is the nicest case IMO, but really shouldn't have any RGB in it, it ruins the look,
the 7000D(187eu) is good, but its HUGE, and will cost a fair deal more for additional fans
the 5000X(171eu) is big, but not much different to the be quiet model, but does only come with 3 fans on the front, and are a pain because corsair software and the corsair only connectors used
finally the Lumin(135eu) it's a decent case, but due to the paroramic case layout, it's a wideboi, but it does take "standard" RGB fans without major issues
@formal gazelle
formal gazelle
those four are the best for size/capacity
the Fractal north XL(198eu) is the ni...
Thank you, no worries about the delay. Decided to stick to black with a little egg inside. White wouldn’t suit the room anyway. And case would more than likely be on ground under table.
That PCS Frostflow 360, is that best compared to all the corsair ones?
frigid sandal
for the price, by far, it will have the same cooling within a margin of error, but not have the same troubel as far as weird connections and software that the corsair ones do
it connects with standard PWM for fan speed/pump and 3 pin for the ARGB, and can be controlled easily via bios or programs like get fan control
it's downside is that it will be louder, offset by the be quiet case, and when going full tilt on gaming won't make much of a difference assuming you use a headset
formal gazelle
One last check please, have changed the case, i've only added 1 ssd at the moment, as i will be ringing them up afterwards to add another on with a seperate payment. How many more cases can i get with this case? https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/XU4K!sYx4a/
frigid sandal
I can't recommend that case, the iCue fans will more than likely give you grief for the fan speed and color
plus you are playing an awful lot for no real benefit
formal gazelle
Oh really, damn, im getting more overwhelmed and overthinking it
frigid sandal
RAM is a bit excessive, but not wildly overkill either, some games may benefit though
I say stick with the be quiet! case I recommended before, big, still got a lightshow, but not excessive
formal gazelle
Reason i wanted lots of ram was because Planet Zoo is a very heavy game replying on RAM, and with Planet Coaster 2 coming out soon i assume that would be the same.
Pity the Be Quiet is not there in White
frigid sandal
if you want a white case, I'd say this one then
no weird corsair fan weirdness
if you didn't have all the RGB, then the fractal north XL
I'd also not bother with the corsair cooler, costs more for no real benefit
also, only recently another corsair cooler was DOA, the frost flow coolers haven't had that issue that I can recall
formal gazelle
reconfigured - its saying remove wifi card.... i assume Rog Strix supports connections to 5g whifi, not just 2.4g
frigid sandal
I think I have that board in mine, pretty sure it does 5 and 2.4
yeah, it does 2.4,5 and 6 GHz
formal gazelle
So thats the Rog Strix X670E - A Gaming
frigid sandal
one little change, the 2TB drive doesn't need to be that fast
https://www.pcspecialist.ie/saved-configurations/amd-am5-pc/qWXnP0WKpj/
speeds like that only really benefit video editing
formal gazelle
Does having a 1000 w instead of 850 be of more benefit or is it bad?
frigid sandal
down side now is it will cost more, benefit later is less trouble upgrading, and no PSU to dispose of later.
the RMx PSUs don't need you to change the cables when you swap between them in case of an upgrader
the PSU won't pull more power than it needs so the ever rising electric bills won't see a difference between the 850W and 1000W
formal gazelle
Also forgot to mention, daughter is in secondary school & now doing Digital Graphics. Any changes to SSD ie Cruicial? To make things faster / smoother etc.
frigid sandal
I doubt it to be honest, photoshop and co care more about the CPU and RAM, and to a small extent the GPU
then again, I haven't a clue what JC/LC kids use for art and design these days
formal gazelle
Me neither, just thinking furture proofing it as it may be awhile before upgrading again.
frigid sandal
it'll be so low level for the secondary schtuff that if they are only starting secondary now, the whole PC is liable for a full replacement when they hit 6th year
is it even called 6th year still?
frigid sandal
you can add one later if you feel you need it, but for now I'd consider it a bit of a waste of money, the motherboard has 4 m.2 slots total, so you could feed it more if you wanted to later
formal gazelle
the 1st SSD is used mainly for Windows right? What if you just get 1 SSD, i assume all storage will stay on that?
frigid sandal
if all you get is the 1TB, it'll be sharing space with windows. and in the case windows becomes corrupt beyond salvage, or the drive pushes daisies, then everything on that drive is lost
thats the main reason I personally push for multiple drives
formal gazelle
Gotcha, i have selected 1 TB for Windows, and 2 TB for a 2nd SSD. Both Samsung 990 Pro
Now just need to shutup and get ordering before i overthink things even more
frigid sandal
looks good
formal gazelle
looks good
Thanks for all your help over the last few days. I have just ordered, as per the last configuration. Looking forward to receiving it. Next up is a Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse. So any further recommendation you may have on that would be great. I do have a 100 euro voucher for amazon that can go towards something.
frigid sandal
Mouse, G502 is what I am using now, though I did really love my G603 for the battery life
Keyboard G915
as for monitor, it all depends on the budget for it
I'd recommend dropping the mouse/keyboard/monitor question in #762988481634369556 to reach more folks
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CNH24KTM this is my current monitor, and I love it, but you can certainly do better, budget permitting
formal gazelle
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CNH24KTM this is my current monitor, and I love it...
Looks nice, any reason not a 4K?
frigid sandal
4k eats framerate, and needs to be bigger than that to be worthwhile
32"+ for a standard widescreen, that one is an ultrawide 34", I value a higher FPS thna a higher resolution
formal gazelle
So 1440 would be the sweet spot then for both FPS & Resolution.
frigid sandal
yup, even on 4k, the 4090 has a hard time with ultra settings cracking 120fps
there is much more to it, like dropping certain settings down, and the game itself, but for the newest games, you're taking a big FPS hit
1440p is also a cost sweetspot for the resolution, as 4k screens are still pretty damn expensive for refresh rates over 120hz
