so underworld dreams is a bit rough
#Pell's Personal Deckbuilding Enclave
junior meteor
dapper mortar
Giantfall is funny
junior meteor
like in testing syr konrad has been rough
dapper mortar
Yeah syr konrad just seems fine here
junior meteor
yeah i figured giantfall and the last agni kai were like, probably very good in the deck that makes a 21 power obnix
dapper mortar
I love Vivi’s persistence, just wish it didn’t cost a billion dollars for no good reason
junior meteor
yeah :/
dapper mortar
31 lands is blech
dapper mortar
I forget that I tags on by default
junior meteor
ah ok
dapper mortar
And doesn’t show mdfc lands in the tagged section of land lol
junior meteor
yeah
there was another card i wanted to try with warp, i dont remember the name
big fuckin dragon
[[nova hellkite]]
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Creature — Dragon
Flying, haste
When this creature enters, it deals 1 damage to target creature an opponent controls.
Warp 
(You may cast this card from your hand for its warp cost. Exile this creature at the beginning of the next end step, then you may cast it from exile on a later turn.)
4/5
dapper mortar
It’s genuinely a terrible card
junior meteor
just actually not good in any aspect
dapper mortar
Idk why they both made it a rare and made it cost 5
The warp should’ve been 1 mana
junior meteor
if it warped for 2 i would understand
dapper mortar
Or yeah 2 mana
junior meteor
like, sure, it's a 4/5 haste that deals 1 damage, 2 mana is like, a burn spell
dapper mortar
2 mana deal 4 and pop an x/1
junior meteor
yeah
but at 3 mana there's no universe im warping this
and im for sure not casting it for FIVE
junior meteor
well this is standard legal right
so like, shock, but still
also, i like the inclusion of the hope of ghirapur in here
im not comboing but it does just prevent a player from comboing off if i need to silence them
and it's 1/1 flyer
junior meteor
most of the deck is cmc3 or less
dapper mortar
Good way to do it then
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junior meteor
or maybe like, one of the ones that is artifact or creature
like bedevil or something
Made a couple of changes. We now have Lavaspur Boots as well as Lightning Greaves, and we also have Walking Ballista. Underperformers got cut.
i think 21 creatures is maybe low for a midrange deck but also having a way to win the game sounds good
dapper mortar
Nemesis stinky
junior meteor
whoops
i didnt even need the fucking cauldron combo
i just happened to have a turn where i burned every opponent for like 30 damage
junior meteor
Nemesis smells of burning applewood and opponents
i agree
Again, I know this is weird but I've never built nor played Ob Nix because I knew I'd really enjoy it
turn 5 was a little fast but my opener had sol ring birgi and 2 pingers
oh, and a city of traitors
so it was literally the nuts
junior meteor
i think this is fine
again, turn 7 i'm just "storming" even though it's not really storm
i kinda still want stormkiln artist though
in testing vinelasher has felt kinda mediocre
junior meteor
Ob Nix was very scary at the table tonight, and my players learned very fast that sometimes a table can accidentally synergize with each other in unintended ways (we had a Taii Waukeen as well). Some notes:
- This deck, obviously, feels very scary when you just dump a few cards into play. Realistically, I was never really in a very commanding position, but anyone looks scary when they draw 5 cards. This is something to keep in mind at a table so I can still play while not freaking the table out enough to have them stop me.
- I think it's possible City of Traitors is too much, but this deck kinda needs the mana to do anything, so I'm unsure.
- Punished by Hagra Mauling count @ 1 for this deck. Everyone had basics, so it was just worse Fell the Profane!
lucid loom
don't you mean Pell the Profane?
junior meteor
Are you not running fell the profane?
I had this conversation yesterday, but I'm actually a Hagra Mauling pell.
Sometimes you get punished for Hagra Mauling, sometimes you get punished for Fell the Profane, and you really gotta just pick one and live with your choice until you decide you're sick of getting punished for it, swap over to the other one, get punished for that one, and then swap back
it is a whole dance, i value 3cmc removal over an untapped land some amount of the time
Last night I got punished because it was 4cmc removal and a tapped land because everyone was on hella basics
dapper mortar
I'm a hagra mauling hater ngl
Such an easy way to make it so much more significantly worse
And the land it comes with is a million times worse
junior meteor
yeah, and im gonna be swinging obnix pretty much any chance i get
dapper mortar
Right
junior meteor
im just trying to figure out how i can more easily generate some value over time
in case i need to play a longer game
maybe it's just needing to find a slot for knuckles, i fucking hate that art but he is a good card
[[knuckles the echidna]]
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thorny plinth
<@180801337947193345> is guild artisan insane for me to add to this
For what deck?
thorny plinth
It could have been for Marchesa
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Long May She Reign! :crown:
junior meteor
Yeah it probably should be in there
When i build Bruce Banner it is going in that
1cmc boyo swings and generates treasures so I can do pyrohemia combos later
i didnt even think about when i said that
[[bruce banner]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Scientist Hero
, 
: Draw X cards. Activate only as a sorcery.
: Transform Bruce Banner. Activate only as a sorcery.
"You shouldn't make me angry . . ."
1/1
The Incredible Hulk
Legendary Creature — Gamma Berserker Hero
Reach, trample
Enrage — Whenever The Incredible Hulk is dealt damage, put a +1/+1 counter on him. If he's attacking, untap him and there is an additional combat phase after this phase.
". . . You wouldn't like me when I'M ANGRY!!!"
8/8
junior meteor
[[guild artisan]]
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Legendary Enchantment — Background
Commander creatures you own have "Whenever this creature attacks a player, if no opponent has more life than that player, you create two Treasure tokens." (They're artifacts with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
Your discerning eye for value makes you nearly impossible to swindle.
junior meteor
yeah, this is when attacks
so you swing in, before blocks are declared you activate pyrohemia with one of your guild artisan treasures
which gives you an extra combat
which works infinitely?
you just gotta make sure hulk stays alive which is pretty reasonable
junior meteor
So I did the funny EDHMatch thing to have it recommend me decks based on what I play and @lucid loom you'll be happy, it recommended me a lot of monocolor. #1 recommendation was Rev Tithe Extractor.
junior meteor
it's a site that tries to match you with decks you'd like based on decks you play
The list of the 15 matches:
- Rev, Tithe Extractor
- Veronica, Dissident Scribe
- Flamewar, Brash Veteran // Flamewar, Streetwise Operative
- Jolene, Plundering Pugilist
- Evereth, Viceroy of Plunder
- Pia and Kiran Nalaar
- Mastermind Plum
- Duchess, Wayward Tavernkeep
- Old Gnawbone (??? they got shooters???)
- Toggo Goblin Weaponsmith (I've played Toggodama in the past!)
- Mishra, Claimed by Gix
- Ziatora, the Incinerator
- RMS Titanic
- Davros, Dalek Creator
- Roxanne, Starfall Savant
They have correctly identified that I like playing red and sometimes black
they incorrectly did not identify that i am mostly a blue player
There's the site @short flare
I actually do think I would really enjoy Rev though, I'm a big fan of MBC and she's a really solid MBC commander.
short flare
I just went through it
Is there a way to output the text list, or did you have to type it
junior meteor
i had to type it
apparently on archetypes, the site is VERY confident i would like flamewar
matches my archetypes 89%
short flare
lmao
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Legendary Artifact Creature — Robot
More Than Meets the Eye 
(You may cast this card converted for .)
Sacrifice another artifact: Put a +1/+1 counter on Flamewar and convert it. Activate only as a sorcery.
, Discard your hand: Put all exiled cards you own with intel counters on them into your hand.
3/2
Flamewar, Streetwise Operative
Legendary Artifact — Vehicle
Living metal (During your turn, this Vehicle is also a creature.)
Menace, deathtouch
Whenever Flamewar deals combat damage to a player, exile that many cards from the top of your library face down. Put an intel counter on each of them. Convert Flamewar.
2/1
junior meteor
and like, you aint wrong, this card says draw eight billion cards
and i like draw eight billion cards
short flare
They dont have an archetype match over 80% for me based on hwat I gave them
short flare
Honestly, [[veronica, dissident scribe]] seems very fun and that was the #2 card they suggested for me
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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer Rogue
Menace
Whenever Veronica attacks, you may discard a card. If you do, draw a card.
Whenever you discard one or more nonland cards for the first time each turn, create a Junk token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Exile the top card of your library. You may play that card this turn. Activate only as a sorcery.")
3/3
junior meteor
same?
short flare
The #1 was [[ayara, widow of the realm]], who I have considered bfore
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Legendary Creature — Elf Noble
, Sacrifice another creature or artifact: Ayara deals X damage to target opponent or battle and you gain X life, where X is the sacrificed permanent's mana value.
: Transform Ayara. Activate only as a sorcery. ( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
3/3
Ayara, Furnace Queen
Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Elf Noble
At the beginning of combat on your turn, return up to one target artifact or creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step.
Ayara cherished her new machine servitors just as much as she once did her many suitors: not at all.
4/4
short flare
Oh wait yeah lmao
junior meteor
short flare
It was on yours too I skimmed past it
lucid loom
So I did the funny EDHMatch thing to have it recommend me decks based on what I ...
Oooo
junior meteor
something you'll notice with all of mine is they're all mana or card advantage engines
which is like, very fitting
because i dont play commanders that aren't those things
they hit me with the fucking Old Gnawbone, Rouge
as if i would enjoy playing the biggest greenest motherfucker alive
wait, i lied, they recommended me Evereth
who is not an advantage engine
she is a sac outlet though
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- Ayara, Widow of the Realm
- Veronica, Dissident Scribe
- Feldon of the Third Path
- The Eleventh Doctor
- Annie Flash, the Veteran
- Derevi, lol
- Cosima, god of the voyage
- Plargg, dean of chaos
- Ramos, Dragon Engine
- Shaile, Dean of Radiance
- Fain, the Broker
- Norm Osborn (Greeeeen gobbo)
- Ashnod, Flesh Mendicant
- Szarel, genesis shepherd
- Korvold, gleeful Glutton
junior meteor
they recommended you green goblin but not me
short flare
as if i would enjoy playing the biggest greenest motherfucker alive
They know the green calls to you
junior meteor
this is glorpshit
junior meteor
also they hit you with the 1 mana ashnod actually
short flare
A few of my dech archetypes dont match the commander on the tin and its probably confusing it
I have considered the 1 mana ashnod before
I think kale suggested them
junior meteor
i notably only put in 5 of the 10 slots
junior meteor
should i put in 5 more
junior meteor
im gonna try filling out the full 10 instead of 5
short flare
Im gonna try swapping a few of my 10
It suggested me [[fain, the broker]], which as far as I can tell does nothing
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Legendary Creature — Human Warlock
, Sacrifice a creature: Put two +1/+1 counters on target creature.
, Remove a counter from a creature you control: Create a Treasure token.
, Sacrifice an artifact: Create a 2/1 white and black Inkling creature token with flying.
: Untap Fain.
3/3
junior meteor
it removes a counter from a creature you control
to make a treasure
those counters can and should be finality counters
you can also pop eggs to make 2/1s which is like, eh
short flare
I already have 3 mana mono black commander and its way cooler
short flare
Okay but they do seem VERY fun
junior meteor
they are EXTREMELY confident i would fucking LOVE Veronica
junior meteor
2nd is one of the two halves of clue farm!
which i have played!
Sophina, Spearsage Deserter
(i did not play her in that slot, i used wernog)
Malcolm the Eyes, sure, okay, when i cast 2 spell i make clue
ok
FLAMEWAR
they are very confident about this one
short flare
Im doing all my aggro decks this time lmao
junior meteor
P&K Nalaar is back, but i played Skred in modern
so that'll never happen
PIPER WRIGHT
FUCK OFF
it thinks i LOVE clues
short flare
It also suggested a totally different red fallout creature lmao
junior meteor
HE'S IN MY 15
junior meteor
It also suggested a totally different red fallout creature lmao
this was on my original list
short flare
I have old gnawbone
junior meteor
despite almost none of the creatures on my list making artifact tokens
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SO many things that make clues or junk or blood
no food or treasure this time though
it gave me [[desdemona freedom's edge]]
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junior meteor
this is somehow less accurate than when i put in less decks!
junior meteor
rev is on here again
short flare
I do own a copy
junior meteor
and my #15 is Samut Driving Force
in no universe am i playing the 6 mana aggro storm commander
short flare
That card is so fun
junior meteor
in zero universes
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rouge when i tell you it gave me a bunch of artifact token shit
veronica, sophina, malcolm the eyes, p&k nalaar, piper wright, feldon of the third path, toggo, azula on the hunt (the worst commander i've ever seen but she makes a clue!!!!), malcolm keen eyed navigator, rev tithe extractor
that's 10
10 of my FIFTEEN suggestions were artifact token shit
short flare
Wait can we back up, why do you hate samut
She reduces your mana costs by FOUR
FOUR
Thats so much
junior meteor
costs 6 mana and i need to run speed cards
otherwise i'm spending a billion turns doing nothing
i dont hate samut i just don't want to play that
short flare
haha
junior meteor
lemme swap to archetype mode
TOGGO IS #1
also fucking ELMAR is here
it's somehow even more artifact tokenshit
short flare
Jenny time/
junior meteor
i dont get it
short flare
I need to finish forge adventure mode but my laptop lags so badly
When I get a new one
junior meteor
okay hear me out, i had her in my boros legends deck in forge adventure mode
and she kicked ass
VERY good in that
junior meteor
i only had 1 copy of her because i only had 1 copy of any legend not named Yoshimaru or Merry
short flare
Im gonna take the quiz
junior meteor
but she was very good
me too
NOOOOOOOOOO
THEY RECOMMENDED ME A FUCKING CATGIRL
I HATE IT HERE THIS IS GLORPSHIT
it did also recommend me [[the spot living]]
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junior meteor
which actually i've considered playing before
outer parcel
Whats this chart??
junior meteor
Whats this chart??
edhmatch has a quiz you can use to "determine what decks you should try"
outer parcel
Neato
outer parcel
You should make muldy
junior meteor
i should not be allowed to play sultai
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Ignore limitations
junior meteor
I would probably really enjoy the catgirl, but her being a catgirl fucking ruins it
you should actually try baral and kari zev
they're legitimately very fun
short flare
They seem very tempo
junior meteor
yes
outer parcel
There a link? Im curious about what itd ask of me
short flare
I could definitely win a lot of games with this
short flare
Im working on UR gut tempo
junior meteor
click to take the quiz
short flare
Dude its always a WHO commander
junior meteor
i was unfamiliar with their game
i did not know they had shooters
they know i like interacting with people
and this commander, for what it is worth, interacts with people
it also recommended me both Eriettes
AND FUCKIN TASIGUR FUCK OFF
I LIKE TALKING TO PEOPLE AND GOING OUTSIDE
I CAN TOUCH GRASS WITHOUT WITHERING
short flare
It recommended me veyran
junior meteor
why must you paint me as a tasigur player
junior meteor
i know i would like tasigur that's the bad part
short flare
They didnt recommend me a single aggro commander
junior meteor
hey wait
that's mine
😠
holy shit it suggested me the fucking goat
you wanna talk about a 6 mana commander rouge
[[saruman of many colors]]
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outer parcel
This thing is crap
short flare
HAHAHAHAHA
junior meteor
GENGHIS GOT FUCKING RECOMMENDED CHILD OF ALARA
junior meteor
it is also VERY confident you would like it
short flare
you wanna talk about a 6 mana commander rouge
SO MANY COLORS
junior meteor
.91 is as high as i think it goes
short flare
Gengis would like it
outer parcel
Hold up
junior meteor
oh i fucking lied, why is yshtola a .92 for me
junior meteor
do not tell me with 92% confidence you think i would enjoy playing yshtola
junior meteor
bc you misread and set for it to only give you 5 color cards
lmao
i will say
this site is dogshit but they also correctly identified my love of blue and black
my #2 suggestion was fucking [[locke cole]]
short flare
You would enjoy
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short flare
With 93% confidence
junior meteor
they gave me 92% confidence on fucking catgirl man
short flare
Im gonna build that veronica chick
junior meteor
they gave me tasigur AND yshtola
short flare
You are the weeb
short flare
Yshtola is a good character
junior meteor
i have played ff14
short flare
ANd you played a catgirl, its okay
junior meteor
i dont play commanders bc i like who they are in the core media except the [[rms titanic]]
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junior meteor
which i played because the titanic was cool IRL
short flare
I got Johann too
outer parcel
Ill build it
junior meteor
votemaxxing
short flare
I hate that set
short flare
But
junior meteor
have played against them, we have a local that plays them
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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer Rogue
Menace
Whenever Veronica attacks, you may discard a card. If you do, draw a card.
Whenever you discard one or more nonland cards for the first time each turn, create a Junk token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Exile the top card of your library. You may play that card this turn. Activate only as a sorcery.")
3/3
junior meteor
i think it's because i play jaws
outer parcel
i do not get why they think i will enjoy her
Because you will
junior meteor
and that card trends my artifact token stuff hard upward
veronica is IN my fucking jaws list
thats the worst part
short flare
lmao
junior meteor
they also gave me a monoblack control commander rouge
short flare
Why build veronica when you could build inti
junior meteor
[[erebos bleakhearted]]
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Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to black is less than five, Erebos isn't a creature.
Whenever another creature you control dies, you may pay 2 life. If you do, draw a card.
, Sacrifice another creature: Target creature gets -2/-1 until end of turn.
5/6
short flare
Yuck
outer parcel
Locked in though, Mister Negative will be the next Pell league brew
junior meteor
yeah, real yuck energy
outer parcel
Committing now
junior meteor
i think mr negative wherein you fuckin tree of perdition yourself
is the funniest idea
[[tree of perdition]]
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Creature — Plant
Defender
: Exchange target opponent's life total with this creature's toughness.
A haunted husk of bark, its cursed whispers linger on the wind.
0/13
junior meteor
oh this says opponent
there's one for yourself
waiit actually
tree of perdition your opponent, cast mr negative
draw eight million cards
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It thought I would love [[helga, skittish seer]]
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Legendary Creature — Frog Druid
Whenever you cast a creature spell with mana value 4 or greater, you draw a card, gain 1 life, and put a +1/+1 counter on Helga.
: Add X mana of any one color, where X is Helga's power. Spend this mana only to cast creature spells with mana value 4 or greater or creature spells with in their mana costs.
1/3
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It thought I would love [[helga, skittish seer]]
I can see it
short flare
I dont see the vision
junior meteor
helga's down there with fuckin roon
short flare
Its a limiter on the thing you dont want to be liited on
junior meteor
for me
short flare
The action economy
outer parcel
helga's down there with fuckin roon
DON'T TELL ME YOU HATE ROON?!?!
junior meteor
i hate roon
short flare
I hate roon too
outer parcel
Buddy no
junior meteor
he's my 2nd most boring deck i've ever built
outer parcel
NO
junior meteor
he just isnt it
short flare
[[oji, the exquisite blade]] is a way more fun blink commander
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junior meteor
the #1 is the one i fall asleep while trying to build every single time
outer parcel
[[oji, the exquisite blade]] is a way more fun blink commander
NOOO
tranquil onyx
x isn't the limiter, 4 mv is the limiter with x creatures getting a free pass
outer parcel
X counts on the stack, if x is 3+ the frog cares
short flare
Yeah, the 4 mv thing kind of forces you to pay fair rates to a certain extent
outer parcel
Damn
junior meteor
(the most boring commander i've ever tried to build was Kwain btw)
short flare
What I think I actually want to do is build an excuse to play [[dragonhawk fate's tempest]]\
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outer parcel
Do I just build her now? I have a love for abandoned things
junior meteor
do it
junior meteor
What I think I actually want to do is build an excuse to play [[dragonhawk fate'...
you sure you dont also want to build veronica
short flare
No, I do
outer parcel
What I think I actually want to do is build an excuse to play [[dragonhawk fate'...
A card I have never seen cast, do it
junior meteor
clearly the website told you that you do
junior meteor
although the damned site thinks i am allergic to touching grass too
outer parcel
although the damned site thinks i am allergic to touching grass too
Well....
short flare
Should I make a secret commander dragonhawk, or commander dragonhawk
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Should I make a secret commander dragonhawk, or commander dragonhawk
Commander 100%
tranquil onyx
Pell still offended at being tagged as an MMO player
junior meteor
genghis it recommended me yshtola, muldrotha, AND tasigur
im actually so upset
I AM AN MMO PLAYER THAT'S THE FUCKING WORST PART
short flare
Pell still offended at being tagged as an MMO player
It hurts more when its accurate
outer parcel
im actually so upset
At being given an honest answer?
tranquil onyx
sometimes the bull gets you
short flare
i cant even make fun of you though, I ran a guild in the last MMO I played
outer parcel
Muldrotha fits you
junior meteor
that's really insulting genghis
i have tried my hardest to shake the coil of sultai
outer parcel
You play MMO's
Youre so into buttons
tranquil onyx
i never played more than a free trials worth of an mmo
short flare
I also one time logged into the ascension private server and found started following the top rated guide, before realizing that it was a guide I WROTE a year ago and had COMPLETELY forgotten
junior meteor
yeesh
short flare
I felt like a crazy person
outer parcel
I also one time logged into the ascension private server and found started follo...
Good lord
tranquil onyx
i don't think this site would work for me, i've not finished enough decks to give it a baseline
short flare
I asked everyone if they remembered me writing it
outer parcel
But kinda hype tho
junior meteor
i don't think this site would work for me, i've not finished enough decks to giv...
oh dont do that one, do the quiz
outer parcel
Imagine coming back to your own advice
junior meteor
the quiz is funnier
short flare
Yeah it was kinda cool
tranquil onyx
which one is that
junior meteor
edhmatch.com, left option
short flare
I'm a good guide writer for MMOs ive found, I usually get a bit of traction
I really am gonna build dragonhawk
outer parcel
I wish I could say I have written productive stuff
icy lodge
I built a Mono red Gogo list that was supposed to have Dragonhawk as a finisher
outer parcel
Unfortunately, I'm only truly good at combative and destructive things. Trying to put it to good use though
icy lodge
But the list kinda sucks lol
outer parcel
I really am gonna build dragonhawk
Same with Mr Negative
Its fun being recommended ideas to adapt
short flare
Hmmm
icy lodge
I built a list for them
icy lodge
But I build like, everything at this point
junior meteor
instead they gave me a fucking catgirl
short flare
Is this another goblins deck in disguise
junior meteor
and the titanic
short flare
But I build like, everything at this point
How many decks are you up to
junior meteor
and the worst part is i have played the titanic
outer parcel
instead they gave me a fucking catgirl
Just accept your fate. You're into what you're into
junior meteor
i do not deny that the ability to cast noncreature spells with mana value 3 or greater is pretty neat
outer parcel
Its 2026, there's worse out there
tranquil onyx
wait
hold on though
This was literally the second deck i wrote down i wanted to make post hiatus
junior meteor
welp, time to build it
outer parcel
This was literally the second deck i wrote down i wanted to make post hiatus
Whats 2-5?
Out of curiosity
short flare
This was literally the second deck i wrote down i wanted to make post hiatus
The site dictates it
tranquil onyx
Aurelia who is too close to what i'm doing with Boone but i like where it's head is at
outer parcel
Fair
icy lodge
How many decks are you up to
280 according to Archidekt
short flare
holy
tranquil onyx
Funny, and in my colors but like, offensively low number of daleks in the game and i don't like changelings
icy lodge
And I’m working on a copy project so the numbers inaccurate
short flare
Changelings feel like cheating
icy lodge
Funny, and in my colors but like, offensively low number of daleks in the game a...
Just treat it as a 7 mana commander
junior meteor
also, not for nothing
the changelings in red and black are ass
other than the 1 mana guy
tranquil onyx
Literally probably replacing Ashur as my zombie beatdown commander
junior meteor
and taurean mauler
junior meteor
Literally probably replacing Ashur as my zombie beatdown commander
YOU GOT RECOMMENDED WALTON GOGGINS
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[[!ashur]]
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tranquil onyx
I sure did
icy lodge
Literally probably replacing Ashur as my zombie beatdown commander
Oh look someone else I built a list for lol
outer parcel
OH
junior meteor
(also, very convenient that he just came in the mail)
tranquil onyx
and, actually a cute suggestion. i've considered him but people don't like dungeons
outer parcel
https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/77/zul-ashur-lich-lord
I couldnt help but think of this guy
outer parcel
and, actually a cute suggestion. i've considered him but people don't like dunge...
Thats a shocking one but Id see you approaching it in a different direction
icy lodge
Question: what site is this
tranquil onyx
there's also Ellie Brick Master who i almost bought several times, Finneas Ace Archer, Don Andres, Davros, Alibou, Vaan, Kuja and Vren rounding out the 15
junior meteor
Okay, I re-answered the quiz and got different answers
icy lodge
Oh don’t mind me I’m just not reading the thread (joke)
tranquil onyx
they pegged me as liking off brand kindreds
junior meteor
i dont think i put in different answers though
outer parcel
Okay, I re-answered the quiz and got different answers
Weak, who's #1 though?
tranquil onyx
oh and Florian
junior meteor
My 1-5 are:
- Braids, Arisen Nightmare
- Y'shtola, Night's Blessed (fuck off)
- Athreos, Shroud-Veiled
- Eriette, the Beguiler
- The Spot, Living Portal
junior meteor
IT JUST HAS ME PEGGED AS AN ESPER CONTROL GIRLIE
outer parcel
Mood
junior meteor
i dont know what to say
icy lodge
Post your 1-5 when done
I will say I build like…almost everything so this might be somewhat disappointing
junior meteor
... my #7 is fucking TASIGUR I HATE IT HERE
tranquil onyx
Never escaping the "played FF14" allegations
junior meteor
AND #8 IS MULDROTHA I WISH I WAS FUCKING MAKING THIS UP
outer parcel
Are you an esper mean girl?
Find out at the center of the tootsie pop
outer parcel
... my #7 is fucking TASIGUR I HATE IT HERE
HOW ABOUT GET OUT OF YOUR OWN WAY AND JUST HAVE FUN
tranquil onyx
ngl the funniest one to me is recommending Aurelia and then the worse Aurelia i'm already building
short flare
Just play the catgirl
junior meteor
so i avoid playing sultai so i am not unfun
outer parcel
Folks can suck it up
We dont play magic to not have problems
Literally asking for threats to answer
tranquil onyx
also reccing The Ghoul to me the day that he came in the mail is pretty funny
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junior meteor
which is objectively a very pell card
tranquil onyx
that ones cool
junior meteor
i like exp counters a lot
tranquil onyx
Braids is a perfect woman
outer parcel
After the second feels forced though. I believe youd learn an algorithm
tranquil onyx
who wouldn't
junior meteor
i would, i like monoblack control
i did not learn the algorithm i simply couldnt go back to the page
i accidentally clicked off 🙁
tranquil onyx
also, one last thing i noted that feels like it's onto something lol
outer parcel
Whatever you say. I know catgirls are your lifeblood, Pell
tranquil onyx
of my 15, only a single suggestion did not have red or black
outer parcel
Allegedly 🙄
junior meteor
or like, lower color combinations in that same group
not a single red suggestion
EXCEPT ONE
icy lodge
Post your 1-5 when done
Winter, Mis
Lier
Yue (not in paper but built lol)
Hama (^)
Loran
junior meteor
[[taii waukeen]] and you'll know why that's funny as shit @outer parcel
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junior meteor
[[tai waukeen]]
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junior meteor
am i fucking stupid
outer parcel
Maybe
icy lodge
[[Tai Wakeen]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Mercenary
Whenever a source you control deals noncombat damage to a creature equal to that creature's toughness, draw a card.
, : If a source you control would deal noncombat damage to a permanent or player this turn, it deals that much damage plus X instead.
"You'd best keep yourself out of my sights."
2/3
tranquil onyx
[[tor wauki]] probably threw your brain off
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Legendary Creature — Human Archer
: Tor Wauki deals 2 damage to target attacking or blocking creature.
3/3
outer parcel
This is my toxic flaw
As soon as I see anyone else run a deck with passion I lose momentum
Tai was in the TTS game I saw
Among a few others
I got nothing
junior meteor
that's why actually
i did just play against this last night and was helped out by it
immensely
outer parcel
[[tor wauki]] probably threw your brain off
Highkey they related in my brain
junior meteor
i do think the Athreos suggestion is like
kinda 
though
there is no way i am paying 6 for a commander that does nothing but it's kinda 👀 like they got me on some spiritual level
outer parcel
I have no idea who that wannabe Gon is
junior meteor
that's Lan from Megaman Battle Network
outer parcel
Never seen that but'll give it a look
outer parcel
More mmos
outer parcel
You should build the catgirl
junior meteor
it's like half fighting game half card game
icy lodge
good game series
Aren’t there remakes coming out?
junior meteor
they already did
tranquil onyx
there's remasters currently out
junior meteor
about 3 years ago
icy lodge
Oh lol
tranquil onyx
of the collection
outer parcel
Oh I do like that blend tho, jokes aside
icy lodge
Oh right I think it’s the Star force series that I’m thinking of
outer parcel
I still play Magic Battlegrounds
tranquil onyx
Megaman but what if he was an anime gameboy card battler rpg
junior meteor
oh, yeah, starforce is coming soonish
oh yeah also it has RPG elements genghis
i forgot that part thanks aida
outer parcel
Ehhh rpgs kinda lose me sometimes
junior meteor
they're weird and fun and the competitive scene is EXTREMELY fun
outer parcel
I think on weird patterns and it derails half of them
junior meteor
i made a physical card game that's based on a lot of things i learned from it
outer parcel
Thats cool!
Ive been working on a ttrpg deckbuilder but its been ridiculously slow tuning things lmao
junior meteor
i mostly stopped development on it when i started actually making videogames
outer parcel
Eventually Ill get it playtester ready
junior meteor
but i could go back
outer parcel
Thats sick, coding has always been a weak suit for me
junior meteor
i like coding, but right now im not doing much of it
basically the bracket 3 league was a lot more work than i was really ready for
and i didnt realize that until halfway in
outer parcel
Oh?
junior meteor
trying to recruit people, make sure people are comfortable in the shared space, setting up rules, trying to figure out pairing structures, etc.
it's just a lot
once everything is ready i'll go back to working on my current project
outer parcel
Youve made it seem easy for what its worth
junior meteor
rn i am writing a visual novel
idk im gonna give it a few months and see where we're at
i do need to figure out tournament software
outer parcel
Oh I can help with that a bit, just need to dig through old files and contacts
We used to do things a step above pen and paper back at the lgs
Im certain I can dig up the old TO matchup charts with minimal digging
junior meteor
things are much worse for me now all of the sudden, yet again, despite all of my other problems getting solved today
so who fucking knows what im gonna be able to do
outer parcel
Cryptic
junior meteor
found a fuckin bedbug in my room
outer parcel
I mean, I can actively help with that
junior meteor
just got rid of the fucking scabies
im so tired man i know this isnt the place for this but
im actively slipping
outer parcel
Itll be by proxy but if you follow my instructions to the letter youll be golden
junior meteor
we're bagging up all my shit rn and we got a bug bomb and some other treatment shit on the way
outer parcel
I study bedbugs for a living and am reinventing bedbug care as I set up a nonprofit
Ill DM you instructions
lucid loom
@junior meteor I did the recs thing and it put my identity as: Aggro, Tokens, Combo, Midrange (Idk about the combo part but I am a Yedora fan so maybe)
The 15 recs:
Lara Croft
Valor's Flagship
SP//dr, Piloted by Peni
Mu Yanling, Wind Rider
Sephiroth, Fallen Hero
Layla Hassan
The Goose Mother (this one I found funny for some reason)
Feldon of the Third Path (I have no idea why I haven't attempted a list for this one yet...)
Spider-Slayer, Hatred Honed
Samut, the Driving Force
Dyadrine, Synthesis Amalgam
Desdemona, Freedon's Edge
Infinite Guideline Station (lol)
Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith (I think this is a match for us)
ED-E, Lonesome Eyebot
no idea why most of them were UB picks, but honestly not complaining
lots of interesting stuff (Might try it with the "no UB" filter to see what it does but idk if it matters)
The ones it added with the "no UB" filter
Pia and Kiran Nalaar (not surprised)
Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes (LOL)
Shaile, Dean of Radiance // Embrose, Dean of Shadow
Gimbal, Gremlin Prodigy
Pia Nalaar, Chief Mechanic (damn they fucking know me lol)
Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer
Osgir, the Reconstructor
I never realized how much my love for eggs translated into love for general artifact stuff
lucid loom
I mean, it gets a lot of reprints
junior meteor
well that's not really factored in, i think
lucid loom
no for sure
junior meteor
but it does check a lot of boxes
junior meteor
sacrifice, too
icy lodge
I’m upset mine weren’t mostly UB picks
tranquil onyx
<@68916583912710144> I did the recs thing and it put my identity as: Aggro, Toke...
some cool and off the beaten path choices actually
lucid loom
def caught the more hipster side of me
peak shuttle
What's this Recs thing?
lucid loom
https://www.edhmatch.com/commander-dna
this one
peak shuttle
Guess I'll give it a whirl on my #1293424899976859670
lucid loom
<@68916583912710144> I did the recs thing and it put my identity as: Aggro, Toke...
my inputs were the 9 decks I have that are my own to some degree
Capitoline Triad, Parhelion, Kiora, Gix, Solphim, Cat Car, and 3 modified precons Bello, Mishra, and Ashling
junior meteor
ok so
im workin on the uhhhh
dark leo
now that the set's out
I took a look at how both Yuriko and Arabella decks work. Arabella usually leans in more on 2-3 cmc creatures that make 1/1 tokens, whereas obviously Yuriko spends a lot of slots on 1 cmc creatures for Yuriko to ninjutsu in.
I'd like some even middle-ground, I probably don't need 12-13 1-drops but maybe 9 or 10.
Currently I have:
- Ornithopter
- Changeling Outcast
- Hope of Ghirapur
- Signal Pest
- Esper Sentinel
- Mother of Runes
- Giver of Runes
- Prehistoric Pet
so 1 or 2 more would be ideal
Options I'm looking at:
- Fourth-Bridge Prowler
- Lightstall Inquisitor
- Ocelot Pride
- Snarling Gorehound
- Skrelv, Defector Mite
- Serra Ascendant
- Guide of Souls
@thorny plinth what do you think mxkale
i'm thinkin maybe serra ascendant + lightstall?
i really like the idea of gorehound, though
thorny plinth
I love gorehound
junior meteor
i think gorehound is probably good in the deck where the commander makes 1/1 tokens
thorny plinth
It's one of my favorite little guys
junior meteor
it's rough because i think the 8 i have up above are like, non-negotiable
so i dont have a ton of slots for 1 drop little guys left
thorny plinth
can you link me the deck?
junior meteor
it's blank rn
thorny plinth
Ahh
thorny plinth
I'm kind of annoyed, I got a kit on Friday before I got super sick and it was basically screaming "build a dark leo and shredder deck"
thorny plinth
I don't need more orzhov decks
junior meteor
Dark Leo & Shredder is really fun though
every version of it i've played so far has been a blast
thorny plinth
So what are you looking for with this one vs those
junior meteor
i think the remaining 1-drop slots can remain blank rn and i'll see if i lean more in on aggression or more of the disrupty, deadguy-ish stuff
well this is the first one i'm building with the full set revealed
so i actually have the ability to play with stuff like Karai and baby shredder
[[oroku saki]] for sure makes the cut
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Legendary Creature — Human Ninja
Sneak (You may cast this spell for if you also return an unblocked attacker you control to hand during the declare blockers step. He enters tapped and attacking.)
Whenever Oroku Saki deals combat damage to a player, you draw a card and lose 1 life.
3/1
junior meteor
this card is just [[ninja of the deep hours]]
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Creature — Human Ninja
Ninjutsu 
(, Return an unblocked attacker you control to hand: Put this card onto the battlefield from your hand tapped and attacking.)
Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, you may draw a card.
2/2
thorny plinth
Yep
junior meteor
i dont know if yuriko still runs ninja of the deep hours but ninja of the deep hours is a great card, we don't turn him down when given access in black.
thorny plinth
I'm poking around with a deck
junior meteor
the answer is they do, sometimes, just checked
thorny plinth
So, this is a quick run up. https://moxfield.com/decks/Iu3GPajaYkuo_TPx1SBFZg
It may be super off base
I admit, Belonging I thought of because of ninja teen
It's an early brainstorm so there's too much stuff and not enough removal
junior meteor
i like a lot of this, this is definitely heavier on creatures than i intend to be
I like the idea of Frodo but I need lifegain to support that
thorny plinth
As I said this is first thoughts related to how things went for me when I tried building yuriko ages ago
junior meteor
yeah i mean fair
I FORGOT NUTURING PIXIE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i will say though @thorny plinth you should probably be on [[prehistoric pet]]
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Creature — Dinosaur Ninja
This creature can't be blocked by creatures with greater power.
, : Return another target creature you control to its owner's hand. Activate only during your turn.
"As far as I'm concerned, Pepperoni's one of us!" —Raphael
1/2
junior meteor
as the card is kinda cracked
thorny plinth
No, I know, I just wasn't including it in this for first thoughts
junior meteor
fair enough
thorny plinth
Since you were talking about removing it.
Unless I just misread your thing entirely
junior meteor
i absolutely was not considering removing it
prehistoric pet is way too good
it's like [[temur sabertooth]] but for 1 mana
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Creature — Cat
: You may return another creature you control to its owner's hand. If you do, this creature gains indestructible until end of turn.
The Temur see themselves as a pack, their bonds more primal than the Abzan's.
4/3
junior meteor
(not quite as good since it taps, but it's also a skulking 1/2 ninja so ymmv)
thorny plinth
For reference
junior meteor
yeah it gives skulk
that's why [[samwise the stouthearted]] is always in my considering for this
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thorny plinth
[[firdoch core]] still also a ninja
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Kindred Artifact — Shapeshifter
Changeling (This card is every creature type.)
: Add one mana of any color.
: This artifact becomes a 4/4 artifact creature until end of turn.
As Isilu drifted past in a swirl of shadow and moonlight, the strange, half-buried stones began to wake.
junior meteor
i am in 4th seat kill me
lucid loom
you'll be fine
junior meteor
i have diabolic intented for blasact
junior meteor
you'll be fine
you were correct i won the game
I played from behind the whole game, the lands player played Tannuk and then I drew 5 cards and won the game
lucid loom
I was gonna say: you're not playing C Pell...
junior meteor
no, it was bad
i missed 3 land drops in a row 🙁
and i had to diabolic intent for blasact because the merfolk player had t4 24 damage unblockable on board
lucid loom
that sounds about right
junior meteor
but then they tapped out for akroma's memorial on a turn where i got 5 cards off the lands player
lucid loom
but then they tapped out for akroma's memorial on a turn where i got 5 cards off...
oh jeez, that sounds great for your deck specifically
junior meteor
yeah it was pretty bad for me, but then they died to pings
Also my lands opp just had win on board at some point but couldn't do it because they were afraid to crack their last fetch and give me draws when I had pyroblast/reb in deck.
last fetch would have been the 3rd omnath trigger to kill all of us lmao
i would have just jammed it in his situation but i did have the pyroblast in hand
thorny plinth
can you link the obnix list here?
thorny plinth
You definitely are skewed red though
junior meteor
numerically it should be fine, i have 51% black sources, 57% red sources
and not that many black cards
but also, i'm straight up just not drawing black sources often enough that it's a worry
and you might think to hear it that im simply not running enough lands but i'm on 37
which is like, more than reasonable
i'm thinking maybe a mountain needs to be another dual land of some kind
but i like having the basics
thorny plinth
[[tainted peak]]?
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Land
: Add 
.
: Add or . Activate only if you control a Swamp.
junior meteor
that was the other thing i'd considered
thorny plinth
[[bloodsoaked insight]]
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Sorcery
This spell costs less to cast for each 1 life your opponents have lost this turn.
Target opponent exiles the top three cards of their library. Until the end of your next turn, you may play those cards. If you cast a spell this way, mana of any type can be spent to cast it.
Sanguine Morass
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add or .
All who enter the bog despair, for the first thing it steals is hope.
thorny plinth
[[flamecache gecko]] would let you chain into ob
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Creature — Lizard Warlock
When this creature enters, if an opponent lost life this turn, add .
, Discard a card: Draw a card.
Wood holds a flame for only so long before it crumbles into ash. But stone can burn forever.
2/2
thorny plinth
[[manaforge cinder]] is a funny filter
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Creature — Elemental Shaman
: Add or . Activate no more than three times each turn.
Cinder mystics set traps for sluaghs and other spirits of flame, seeking to extract the secrets of the fire their own hearts have lost.
1/1
junior meteor
I actually almost like Flamecache Gecko, the real issue is I have to have a Scrawling Crawler or something already out when I use it.
and it can't be Agate Instigator or anything that cares about a creature entering
i think Tainted Peak is probably my best option overall, even if I don't love it
thorny plinth
Lotus petal is another option
junior meteor
i was originally on a lotus petal and i don't remember why i removed it
anything that gets Obnix out faster is like, pretty good here
and it's not like im super deliberately slowing down or anything crazy, i still have City of Traitors
just no ancient tomb
thorny plinth
OH [[monument to endurance]]
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thorny plinth
Colorless treasure generator that's usually pretty good in rakdos
junior meteor
i actually dont have very much discard
thorny plinth
OK, I missed that. Usually it's something that gets built into Rakdos
junior meteor
im thinkin about putting wheel and faithless looting in but the only discard i have rn is like
none actually
but yeah if i were heavier on discarding i would use monument for extra fixing
@tawny zephyr
welcome to the pell thread
tawny zephyr
keen orbit
https://moxfield.com/decks/TIMkhGgoRky3mlUvFTn05w
0 combos right
junior meteor
yeah, comboless
it's b3 so i had to avoid putting in stuff like cauldron+ballista or casey jones
keen orbit
why are you on top?
junior meteor
easy additional triggers with unstable amulet when you flip it off of obnix
also it lets me dig if i really need something and i have a trigger on the stack
being able to see the top 3 is really helpful
junior meteor
yeah it is
i just don't like a lot of my options in black
like you'll notice im not on konrad or blood artist
and that's mostly because i think those cards are really bad in obnix
but like, for example, i know i have the option to run feed the swarm and not wild magic surge or whatever but i don't
because it's black and this deck doesnt have that many black sources
keen orbit
spikefield seem bit weak tbh
junior meteor
sundering is great, pinnacle monk is kinda questionable but very solid, spikefield is 1 mana draw a card
spikefield can hit someone's face for 1 damage at the cost of 1 mana, which triggers obnix, it's basically a cycling land that deals damage
keen orbit
you probly missing the black one from zendikar
junior meteor
which one
hagra mauling?
i removed that one 
unless you mean agadeez nuts and i took that one out but it might go back in
keen orbit
[[Agadeem's Awakening // Agadeem, the Undercrypt]]
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Sorcery
Return from your graveyard to the battlefield any number of target creature cards that each have a different mana value X or less.
"Now is the death-hour, just before dawn. Wake, sleepers, and haunt the living!" —Vivias, Witch Vessel
Agadeem, the Undercrypt
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
: Add .
"Here below the hedron fields, souls and secrets lie entombed." —Vivias, Witch Vessel
keen orbit
your creature curve is so low
junior meteor
it is, but it's still like 5 mana to get a 1 drop and a 2 drop, if i have both in the grave
keen orbit
the black natural order could also be an option, [[Lively Dirge]]
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Sorcery
Spree (Choose one or more additional costs.)
- — Search your library for a card, put it into your graveyard, then shuffle.
- — Return up to two creature cards with total mana value 4 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
"Now rip your partner from the grave, and form an undead killing wave!"
junior meteor
lively dirge was in an earlier version, and it might go back in
keen orbit
is what i run in my rakdos atm
junior meteor
it got cut when i dropped my creature count
21 is like, pretty small
right and i can extrapolate from there for what i expect to be longer games
and by "what i expect" i mean i won last night on turn 9, previous game i won on turn 7
junior meteor
my pips are already pretty rough
playing colorless lands is like, not super incredible in this from what i've played so far
it's bad enough that i almost cut gemstone caverns
keen orbit
phasing out that dranith for 0 mana investment
always a fan of the [[peat bog]] cycle for commanders that costs 4
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Land
This land enters tapped with two depletion counters on it.
, Remove a depletion counter from this land: Add . If there are no depletion counters on this land, sacrifice it.
junior meteor
yeah i had considered sandstone needle
keen orbit
urborg i enjoy in decks thats slower
junior meteor
urborg might just be a good option here
would help with the issue of just drawing every red source and having nothing to do with it
keen orbit
slowlands as well
would also replace one of the basic fetchs for a march flats
not big fan of gemstone in slower deck either
junior meteor
fabled passage has felt really weak
also gemstone is kinda shit in here because if it's not in the opener it is worse than useless
and if it is, i go down a card in a deck i already frequently mulligan low
keen orbit
and no mox diamond to throw it on
junior meteor
yep
keen orbit
shivan gorge looks greedy
junior meteor
it absolutely is but like
the upside has come up
it's one of the very few colorless lands that i'm like "maybe there's actually something to this"
keen orbit
did you try the black channel land?
junior meteor
i didnt but i also don't run that many targets for it
keen orbit
i like starting town
junior meteor
it's in there, too
and city of brass
im not on tarnished because this build's on the one ring
and i've almost killed myself every game so far
keen orbit
no mana confluence?
keen orbit
i like phyrexian tower in every black deck xD
junior meteor
i dont like it in here mostly bc i dont like saccing my stuff in this
like, diabolic intent keeps coming out and going back in
that's kinda where we're at on it lmao
but intent is pretty great
thorny plinth
Tower is good in Ob if you're on goblins
peak shuttle
If you are in Orzhov you can run [[Vault of the Archangel]] for a sustain source.
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Land
: Add .
, : Creatures you control gain deathtouch and lifelink until end of turn.
"For centuries my creation kept this world in balance. Now only her shadow remains." —Sorin Markov
thorny plinth
But you need a lot of incidental creatures for it to work here
peak shuttle
Mmm.
junior meteor
[[Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin]]
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peak shuttle
[[Shadowspear]] ?
junior meteor
my sustain source is currently shadowspear
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Legendary Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/+1 and has trample and lifelink.
: Permanents your opponents control lose hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.
Equip
A weapon of darkness for a warrior of light.
junior meteor
already in the deck, yeah
peak shuttle
Ah XD. I was right on that at least.
junior meteor
just so i can slap it on an agate instigator or whatever
also considered basilisk collar, similarly
keen orbit
hmm no [[firebrand archer]]
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junior meteor
yeah, i dont like the 2/1
again, locally i play against a lot of people on gut shot and stuff
keen orbit
no kessig eithger 🤔
junior meteor
[[kessig flamebreather]]
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