Y'shtola Communal Brewing

[sacred galleon]

I don’t think I’ve ever felt like I needed the draw unless I was letting shtoler die bc I didn’t have protection

But it’s definitely sitting on the fence of being added in

[lusty igloo]

it's just a free card and yshtola proc

[sacred galleon]

I would love to add more static colorless discounts but I feel like I’m too split between noncreature types for those synergy pieces to work well

[lusty igloo]

should be on papalymo too. you need alternatives to put curiosity on (he's better than yshtola for curiosity anyway) in case your yshtola got removed

[sacred galleon]

[[lyse]] was a solid consideration as a stand in for [[grand arbiter augustin]]

[surreal shoal]

Multiple cards match “lyse”, can you be more specific?

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/221/grand-arbiter-augustin-iv

Grand Arbiter Augustin IV <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
White spells you cast cost less to cast.
Blue spells you cast cost less to cast.
Spells your opponents cast cost more to cast.
The Arbiter is a conduit of justice, a will so disciplined that it dispenses justice without ego or remorse.
2/3

[lusty igloo]

oh why are you not playing the other 2 curiosties? is it for power reasons?

[maiden widget]

Also he’s answer some Voltron player too

[lusty igloo]

going easy on your pod?

[sacred galleon]

I personally dislike papalymo as a character and cut him

[lusty igloo]

dont see why

[lusty igloo]

LOL ok

based tbh

[sacred galleon]

Listen urianger was a tough cut even though I knew he didn’t fit

[maiden widget]

He’s cool character thou

[lusty igloo]

i dont even remebmer his second ability

[sacred galleon]

Eh he was always my least favorite scion by far

[maiden widget]

Tap 4 sac him

[lusty igloo]

have you guys used his sacrifice ability before

[maiden widget]

Every one sac strongest creature

I did against Voltron player

[sacred galleon]

Even yourself?

[maiden widget]

[lusty igloo]

no

[sacred galleon]

Or opponents

[lusty igloo]

opponents

[lusty igloo]

ohhh

[sacred galleon]

Ah like [[soul shatter]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/znr/127/soul-shatter

Soul Shatter <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Each opponent sacrifices a creature or planeswalker with the greatest mana value among creatures and planeswalkers they control.
The Kargan tribes share legends of the victory their ancestors won over the Akoum Skyclave, and its horrendous cost.

[lusty igloo]

yeah

[maiden widget]

Yeah

[sacred galleon]

I mean that’s not bad

[lusty igloo]

thats actually not bad at all lol

[maiden widget]

It’s lord accurate

He sac himself in the game to kill shinryu

[lusty igloo]

for a card used for curiosity target, having an extra is just cherry on top

and a non-useless ability too. i need to remember it exists

[maiden widget]

[[gaius yae]]

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “gaius yae”

[maiden widget]

[[zenos yae]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/127/zenos-yae-galvus-shinryu-transcendent-rival

Zenos yae Galvus <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Noble Warrior
My First Friend — When Zenos yae Galvus enters, choose a creature an opponent controls. Until end of turn, creatures other than Zenos yae Galvus and the chosen creature get -2/-2.
When the chosen creature leaves the battlefield, transform Zenos yae Galvus.
4/4

Shinryu, Transcendent Rival
Legendary Creature — Dragon
Flying
As this creature transforms into Shinryu, choose an opponent.
Burning Chains — When the chosen player loses the game, you win the game.
"The heavens are too small a field for our dance. Let us transcend this mortal coil!"
8/8

[maiden widget]

This shinryu

[sacred galleon]

Lmao I played against this commander today

[maiden widget]

He’s fine

He’s funny with infect

[sacred galleon]

He tried targeting me with it while I was playing Boros reanimator [[joshua, Phoenix]] and sacced the chosen creature in response to the enter to force him to kill his own commander and reanimate it lmao

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/229/joshua-phoenixs-dominant-phoenix-warden-of-fire

Joshua, Phoenix's Dominant <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Noble Wizard
When Joshua enters, discard up to two cards, then draw that many cards.
, : Exile Joshua, then return it to the battlefield transformed under its owner's control. Activate only as a sorcery.
"In ashen grip, let ember glow, to kindle flames anew."
3/4

Phoenix, Warden of Fire
Legendary Enchantment Creature — Saga Phoenix
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I, II — Rising Flames — Phoenix deals 2 damage to each opponent.
III — Flames of Rebirth — Return any number of target creature cards with total mana value 6 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield. Exile Phoenix, then return it to the battlefield (front face up).
Flying, lifelink
4/4

[lusty igloo]

that card looks so cool but in reality like. the gugy you chose will never be targeted by the otehrs anymore. and people will help him out. idk it looks so hard to win

[sacred galleon]

Oh no it’s absolutely arch enemy mode

That’s the point

[maiden widget]

My fav commander from this set is [[kuja, genome]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/232/kuja-genome-sorcerer-trance-kuja-fate-defied

Kuja, Genome Sorcerer <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Mutant Wizard
At the beginning of your end step, create a tapped 0/1 black Wizard creature token with "Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this token deals 1 damage to each opponent." Then if you control four or more Wizards, transform Kuja.
"Peace is but a shadow of death, desperate to forget its painful past..."
3/4

Trance Kuja, Fate Defied
Legendary Creature — Avatar Wizard
Flame Star — If a Wizard you control would deal damage to a permanent or player, it deals double that damage instead.
"Yes, this is it! This is the power I've always wanted!"
4/6

[sacred galleon]

Protect the president the commander

[lusty igloo]

lol

im tempted to build it

as b2 deck

[maiden widget]

Who ?

[lusty igloo]

shinryu

[maiden widget]

@lusty igloo

[sacred galleon]

Zenos

[maiden widget]

Oh lol

Build him with infect

Trust

[lusty igloo]

my only bracket 2 deck is lightning and she gets complained EVERY time i get an early win

[sacred galleon]

Ah yes b2 infect

My favorite

[maiden widget]

Listen they make precon way too good these day

[lusty igloo]

it's 1 off of tainted strike

[lusty igloo]

i was going to make a b2 superfriends atraxa deck

but i built it for 4 hours yday and it end up being board wipe tribal to ult and it looked toxic

so i scrapped

[maiden widget]

Yeah no

[sacred galleon]

Even if I adjust my deck until archidekt says it’s a 2 I would never subject anyone in 2 to any of my decks tbh

I would rather just play an actual precon (except this precon because holy awful)

[maiden widget]

Archidexk is weird

Sometime it only make your deck a 3 if you put GC in it

Even though the deck actually feel powerful

[sacred galleon]

Brackets aren’t power levels

Or at least you can’t make an auto checker that doesn’t just follow the explicit rules

If you click on the suggested bracket it tells you why it considers it a certain bracket

I use it to identify and remove certain 2 card infinites

[desert sequoia]

I have a B2 Kuja deck. It works nicely cus you play a bunch of very cheap but normally pretty mid spells, toss in a grapeshot aspirationally and you're good to go

(mine's probably higher end of B2 tho, it's more focused than some)

[desert sequoia]

This is on the money - no automated system will look at a deck and go 'oh yeah, this slaps, put it in as a 4'

[maiden widget]

Mins use to be 2 then I made it obnoxious

Now it’s a 3

[robust rapids]

How have you guys been treating your removal? Are you passing on low cmc stuff like swords/path for the 3 cmc ones like stroke of midnight, running both?

[hidden knot]

Yes to passing on low cmc removal for higher cmc, sometimes that you can cast for free or reduced cost. E.g., [[Baleful Mastery]], [[Deadly Rollick]], [[Snuff Out]], [[Submerge]], or [[Dismember]].

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/126/baleful-mastery

Baleful Mastery <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
You may pay rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
If the cost was paid, an opponent draws a card.
Exile target creature or planeswalker.

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/147/deadly-rollick

Deadly Rollick <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
If you control a commander, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Exile target creature.
Otrimi was disappointed at how quickly its new friend got tired and stopped playing.

https://scryfall.com/card/gvl/53/snuff-out

Snuff Out <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
If you control a Swamp, you may pay 4 life rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Destroy target nonblack creature. It can't be regenerated.
"The bigger they are, the faster they rot."

https://scryfall.com/card/nem/48/submerge

Submerge <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
If an opponent controls a Forest and you control an Island, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Put target creature on top of its owner's library.

https://scryfall.com/card/mm2/79/dismember

Dismember <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manabp:292901508922474496><:manabp:292901508922474496>

Instant
( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Target creature gets -5/-5 until end of turn.
"You serve Phyrexia. Your pieces would better serve Phyrexia elsewhere." —Azax-Azog, the Demon Thane

[hidden knot]

And I FINALLY PUT CURIOSITY IN THE DECK, are you happy now?! 😂

https://moxfield.com/decks/bij3ZA79I0WmElrVxdnDZQ

[robust rapids]

Neat do you take the same approach with counter spells?

[hidden knot]

Actually no, because there aren't a lot of free counterspells I want to add. The only free one I have is Fierce Guardianship, which is one of the three game changers I have allowed myself. For counterspells, I put two really cheap ones in ([[An Offer You Can't Refuse]] and [[Swan Song]]), and then some that are three-cmc but have other effects ([[Refute]] and [[Sink Into Stupor]] and [[Unwind]], which is almost free? Sort of?)

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/160/an-offer-you-cant-refuse

An Offer You Can't Refuse <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target noncreature spell. Its controller creates two Treasure tokens. (They're artifacts with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
"I think you'll find my terms quite agreeable, if you know what's good for you."

https://scryfall.com/card/eoc/46/swan-song

Swan Song <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target enchantment, instant, or sorcery spell. Its controller creates a 2/2 blue Bird creature token with flying.
In the end, the dying Illvoi clung to neither secrecy nor protocol. She cloudsculpted wings that she might live on in a spark of creativity.

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/48/refute

Refute <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target spell. Draw a card, then discard a card.
"I said no!"

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/241/sink-into-stupor-soporific-springs

Sink into Stupor <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return target spell or nonland permanent an opponent controls to its owner's hand.
The kami help travelers find profound relief, by freeing them from their mortal concerns.

Soporific Springs
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
: Add .
Desperate travelers journey from across Kamigawa, drawn by rumors of relief from all their troubles.

https://scryfall.com/card/dom/72/unwind

Unwind <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target noncreature spell. Untap up to three lands.
"A problem is only a problem if you don't have the tools to correct it." —Jhoira

[hidden knot]

I view counterspells mostly as protection for Yshtola.

[robust rapids]

Thank you for the help

[hidden knot]

Hey, any time! Just one perspective among thousands

[fervent burrow]

Yeah reminder for anyone new, check the Pinned section for all decklists

And if yours isn't in there, post it and I'll pin it

[hidden knot]

Here's mine! https://moxfield.com/decks/bij3ZA79I0WmElrVxdnDZQ

[maiden widget]

Also some cheap counter spell is good for early game hostile or late game where you have to counter multiple instants of removal on your commander

Also consider [[press the enemy]] [[counterpoint]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/65/press-the-enemy

Press the Enemy <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return target spell or nonland permanent an opponent controls to its owner's hand. You may cast an instant or sorcery spell with equal or lesser mana value from your hand without paying its mana cost.
"I showed the blade reforged to him. He is not so mighty yet that he is above fear."

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/41/counterpoint

Counterpoint <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Counter target spell. You may cast a creature, instant, sorcery, or planeswalker spell from your graveyard with mana value less than or equal to that spell's mana value without paying its mana cost.
"Nice theory, but I'm going to have to poke some holes in it."

[hidden knot]

Counterpoint is growing on me

They're both cool

[maiden widget]

Also here a cool protection spell [[ultimate magic: holy]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/32/ultimate-magic:-holy

Ultimate Magic: Holy <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Permanents you control gain indestructible until end of turn. If this spell was cast from exile, prevent all damage that would be dealt to you this turn.
Foretell (During your turn, you may pay and exile this card from your hand face down. Cast it on a later turn for its foretell cost.)

[maiden widget]

Teferi protection at home

[soft peak]

I like [[!flare of denial]] a lot, not the best but its fun

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/62/flare-of-denial

Flare of Denial

[maiden widget]

But like who you sac-ing

[soft peak]

Talion, ledger shredder mainly

Sometimes ysh has to go

Said it wasnt great but I find it more fun in my games that i gotta make that choice

[maiden widget]

[[ledger shredder]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/46/ledger-shredder

Ledger Shredder <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Bird Advisor
Flying
Whenever a player casts their second spell each turn, this creature connives. (Draw a card, then discard a card. If you discarded a nonland card, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.)
No evidence, no crime.
1/3

[sacred galleon]

yeah i ended up not running the flares because i never really have much on my board other than shtola

[maiden widget]

I cut flare of malice for the same reason

[fervent burrow]

How have your guys wins been going? Because both of my wins have followed the exact pattern of getting Delney + copy, extra turn + counterspell ready, then casting like 9 mana worth of stuff and since that does 24 to the table.. its ended it

[maiden widget]

70% win rate

But I only play yshtola like 1-2 per night

Bc if I’m winning the game take real long

[compact vine]

My wins don’t take nearly as long 😛

[maiden widget]

Good for you buddy 👍

[robust rapids]

How how you guys felt about clones/trigger doublers?

Quantum Misalignment and Delney have felt really strong in testing but I'm not sure about things like roaming throne, Irenicus's Vile Duplication, or helm of the host.

Are any of the creature clones worth running despite not triggering Y'sh abilites?

[compact vine]

I rock Sakashima of a Thousand Faces

Doesn’t trigger Delney, but he’s another set of Y’shtola triggers

[fervent burrow]

Vile Duplication is 100% worth it, I don't think I like Throne enough just because it is a bit odd with no synergy for the rest of the deck... Helm could be good but don't think it's worth it

[maiden widget]

It’s pretty good

I like them for some aggressiveness

[robust rapids]

That's fair, really wish ysh was a wizards for the triggers but that might have been a bit much. Helm I'm torn on since there tends to be a decent amount of legendary creatures and cloning something like Kambal, Consul of Allocation or Sheoldred, the Apocalypse can get out of hand quickly.

[robust rapids]

Are you running the creature versions like spark double or just the non-creature ones?

[maiden widget]

Just non creature one

I have vile dup and quantum misalignment

Quanmisa have rebound

If you want to go really deep into cat girl army then you run spark double

And even rite of replication

[robust rapids]

Does rite of replication bypass the legend rule?

[maiden widget]

If you copy the token

[robust rapids]

Oh so you use a clone to make it nonlegendary then rite the non legend version, interesting.

[maiden widget]

Yeah that how rite would work

[weak silo]

On the clone discussion, I really want to try [[nanogene conversion]] as one way to to close a game out when using some of the on cast tokens generators

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/49/nanogene-conversion

Nanogene Conversion <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Choose target creature you control. Each other creature becomes a copy of that creature until end of turn, except it isn't legendary.
"Are you my mummy?"

[maiden widget]

I feel like if only yshtola play that play a lot of creature

And you only play it to end the game I think

[marsh solar]

anyone seen [[all-fates scroll]]? I missed this until now

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/234/all-fates-scroll

All-Fates Scroll <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
: Add one mana of any color.
, , Sacrifice this artifact: Draw X cards, where X is the number of differently named lands you control.
For navigating that which was, is, and will be.

[marsh solar]

not bad for a mana rock

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mat/9/training-grounds

Training Grounds

[maiden widget]

[[bliztball]]

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “bliztball”

[maiden widget]

[[blitzball]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/254/blitzball

Blitzball <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
: Add one mana of any color.
GOOOOAAAALLL! — , Sacrifice this artifact: Draw two cards. Activate only if an opponent was dealt combat damage by a legendary creature this turn.

[maiden widget]

Here is a cool mana rock

@marsh solar

[green vigil]

Would not recommend 3+ mana rocks unless they have added utility for the deck. Doesn't really matter if you get her out turn 3 or later. Ramping faster will almost always be better. So going 1-2 mana rocks cmc route would just mean getting your plan on earlier.

For example [[misleading signpost]] is a pretty neat mana rock for the deck with the added benefit of stopping an attack.

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/woc/11/misleading-signpost

Misleading Signpost <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Artifact
Flash
When this artifact enters during the declare attackers step, you may reselect which player or permanent target attacking creature is attacking. (It can't attack its controller or their permanents.)
: Add .

[lusty igloo]

I started with 3 and since moved mostly to 0-2 mana ones. I still run decanter of endless water but will replace it with thought vessel

[maiden widget]

I’m thinking of chromatic lantern and that’s all

[robust rapids]

Has anyone had any luck with [[Strionic Resonator]]?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/384/strionic-resonator

Strionic Resonator <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
, : Copy target triggered ability you control. You may choose new targets for the copy. (A triggered ability uses the words "when," "whenever," or "at.")
Its tines cannot be rung by mere physical force. Only magic of great power can start its eldritch resonance.

[maiden widget]

I would rather run blue gogo*

[robust rapids]

Do you think there is merit in running both?

[maiden widget]

I wouldn’t run either

[robust rapids]

Too mana intensive?

[maiden widget]

I rather run copy make token

And yes I usually want mana open while passing

[robust rapids]

That's fair

[maiden widget]

When I think [[displacer kitten]] is useless outside of one niche combo

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/63/displacer-kitten

Displacer Kitten <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Cat Beast
Avoidance — Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, exile up to one target nonland permanent you control, then return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control.
"Isn't she the cutest thing you've almost seen?" —Doen, purveyor of exotic pets
2/2

[maiden widget]

It saved me bc I was able to flicker my yshtola that being turned into a frog

[green vigil]

I actually really like Displacer here for more casual formatting. It can not only protect yshtola but also allow you to have access mana for more turns.

[maiden widget]

Yeah I’m totally not using it for infinite colorless mana for no reason

[soft peak]

For 3 mana rocks I like [[relic of legends]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/236/relic-of-legends

Relic of Legends <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
: Add one mana of any color.
Tap an untapped legendary creature you control: Add one mana of any color.
"If the worst parts of history can repeat themselves, it stands to reason that the best parts can as well." —Teferi

[soft peak]

I dont run any else

[maiden widget]

I feel like I don’t run enough legend for it

[wide quiver]

Your commander is enough tbh

You probably have like 10 creatures

and they are all legendary

[maiden widget]

Idk if I even have10 creature lol

[elder lagoon]

Apparently it’s starting to show up in cedh decks since it’s the cheapest “make ‘2’ mana” rock out there

[wide quiver]

If you don't plan on attacking/blocking with your commander, then it seems almost like a nobrainer tbh

Yshtola might as well be an artifact tbh

[elder lagoon]

Idk yshtola voltron is funny

[wide quiver]

It is

But even then, she has vigilance!

[maiden widget]

my body is a machine that turn cat girl into 21/23 body.

[lusty igloo]

Seems rly bad. 4 mana first trigger copy. You might as well have played a roaming throne

And roaming throne is just an inferior clone

Cuz roaming throne does nothing when Yshtola dies and clones still operate (and some clones can clone enemies too)

[maiden widget]

[[gogo, master of mi]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/54/gogo-master-of-mimicry

Gogo, Master of Mimicry <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Wizard
, : Copy target activated or triggered ability you control X times. You may choose new targets for the copies. This ability can't be copied and X can't be 0. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
"I see... so, you seek to save the world. Then I guess that means I shall save the world as well. Lead on! I will copy your every move."
2/4

[maiden widget]

It’s pretty cool but still mana intensive

[green vigil]

Speaking of that card. Im debating if I want it or taigam as my mono blue commander 😂

[maiden widget]

Back to the Voltron topic

If you play reaper scythe eventually your yshtola will become Voltron

[wide quiver]

I honestly didn't love it

[maiden widget]

Yeah card is weak in this deck

[wide quiver]

It's probably good in the token version of this deck

but not in my control list

[maiden widget]

What kinda token control thou ?

Yshtola token or Hero token ?-

[wide quiver]

Actual tokens

Not copies of yshtola

[maiden widget]

Oh the precon

[wide quiver]

There are some cards in there I'd use, but not necessarily just the precon

[green vigil]

I mean she has white. So theirs immediately 20 other better options. Since white is really good at attaching for free.

[compact vine]

[[cloudsteel kirin]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/8/cloudsteel-kirin

Cloudsteel Kirin <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Artifact Creature — Equipment Kirin
Flying
Equipped creature has flying and "You can't lose the game and your opponents can't win the game."
Reconfigure (: Attach to target creature you control; or unattach from a creature. Reconfigure only as a sorcery. While attached, this isn't a creature.)
3/2

[maiden widget]

I mean she doesn’t have red so any option is sus

[green vigil]

White enables you to attach any equipment. Whether its colorless black , blue , or white. This opens the door to many equipment cards

Colossus hammer gets attached for free and makes her a 12/14

[wide quiver]

yeah you could do something with like [[puresteel paladin]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/51/puresteel-paladin

Puresteel Paladin <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Knight
Whenever an Equipment you control enters, you may draw a card.
Metalcraft — Equipment you control have equip as long as you control three or more artifacts.
2/2

[wide quiver]

Or [[ardenn]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/10/ardenn-intrepid-archaeologist

Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Kor Scout
At the beginning of combat on your turn, you may attach any number of Auras and Equipment you control to target permanent or player.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
"With the right tools, even the sky is within reach."
2/2

[wide quiver]

I really like [[one last job]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/22/one-last-job

One Last Job <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Spree (Choose one or more additional costs.)

• — Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
• — Return target Mount or Vehicle card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
• — Return target Aura or Equipment card from your graveyard to the battlefield attached to a creature you control.

[wide quiver]

Also, for an artifact and token deck, I want to try out [[thousand moons smithy]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/39/thousand-moons-smithy-barracks-of-the-thousand

Thousand Moons Smithy <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Artifact
When Thousand Moons Smithy enters, create a white Gnome Soldier artifact creature token with "This token's power and toughness are each equal to the number of artifacts and/or creatures you control."
At the beginning of your first main phase, you may tap five untapped artifacts and/or creatures you control. If you do, transform Thousand Moons Smithy.

Barracks of the Thousand
Legendary Artifact Land
(Transforms from Thousand Moons Smithy.)
: Add .
Whenever you cast an artifact or creature spell using mana produced by Barracks of the Thousand, create a white Gnome Soldier artifact creature token with "This token's power and toughness are each equal to the number of artifacts and/or creatures you control."

[green vigil]

Dont forget the classic [[sigardas aid]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/384/sigardas-aid

Sigarda's Aid <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
You may cast Aura and Equipment spells as though they had flash.
Whenever an Equipment you control enters, you may attach it to target creature you control.
The Order of Saint Traft found new strength with Sigarda's support.

[maiden widget]

[[Blackmage rod]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/90/black-mages-rod

Black Mage's Rod <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Artifact — Equipment
Job select (When this Equipment enters, create a 1/1 colorless Hero creature token, then attach this to it.)
Equipped creature gets +1/+0, has "Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature deals 1 damage to each opponent," and is a Wizard in addition to its other types.
Equip

[maiden widget]

Make yshtola ping even more

[compact vine]

You could go all in on Black Mage tokens

[maiden widget]

Only if you have red in the mix

Like half of Wizard token is in red

[maiden widget]

Been thinking of [[insatiable avarice]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/91/insatiable-avarice

Insatiable Avarice <:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Spree (Choose one or more additional costs.)

• — Search your library for a card, then shuffle and put that card on top.
• — Target player draws three cards and loses 3 life.
  Akul didn't know what lay inside Tarnation's great vault, but the mystery fueled his obsession.

[void grove]

I assume this only counts as 1mv for yshtola?

Ah, it does

[maiden widget]

Yeah doesn’t trigger her

But it’s a budget vampiric tutor

If you really think about it

[void grove]

Just be rich

Put a real demonic tutor

Or that 3 mv one

[compact vine]

Vampiric?

[lusty igloo]

grim tutor

are you guys on idyllic tutor?

[green vigil]

I run both idyllic and enlighten

Mystical, and all the black one aside from breech

But my yshtola is also aimed for cedh

[maiden widget]

I’m hater against tutor so I don’t run any but yeah

[green vigil]

Well I only run them in my cedh decks. I dont buy them otherwise. If I happen to pull one. Then ill use them. Otherwise I dont go after them

[soft peak]

I run beseech the mirror

best tutor for yshtola imo (outside gcs)

and also [[demonic bargain]] as a meme

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/vow/103/demonic-bargain

Demonic Bargain <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Exile the top thirteen cards of your library, then search your library for a card. Put that card into your hand, then shuffle.
"Do not try to negotiate with me, human. You want power? This is the price." —Ormendahl

[robust rapids]

Do you guys think [[Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose]] worth running without the [[Exquisite Blood]] combo for bracket 3 Y'sh?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/m21/127/vito-thorn-of-the-dusk-rose

Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Vampire Cleric
Whenever you gain life, target opponent loses that much life.
: Creatures you control gain lifelink until end of turn.
"Through the blood of the wicked, we shall be redeemed. Let us pray."
1/3

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/195/exquisite-blood

Exquisite Blood <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent loses life, you gain that much life.
Even as humans regained the upper hand, some still willingly traded their lives for a chance at immortality.

[fervent burrow]

Vito makes the list of top 150 cards I'd run in Yshtola for sure. But I'd rather run a few cards over him just because people will fear you have exquisite combo or similar, and he only synergies with 1 spellcast = draw always, which is nice. It didnt make my list, but if you don't have the budget for some of the nicer cards in Yshtola it could be on there

[robust rapids]

Thank you

[robust rapids]

How have you felt abouty g'raha tia in your list?

[fervent burrow]

I've actually yet to actually cast him haha just haven't run across him yet

[wide quiver]

[[all fates scroll]] seems good in most decks

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/234/all-fates-scroll

All-Fates Scroll <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
: Add one mana of any color.
, , Sacrifice this artifact: Draw X cards, where X is the number of differently named lands you control.
For navigating that which was, is, and will be.

[maiden widget]

I don’t see the appeal of spending 7 mana for this deck though

I usually already have crazy draw

[maiden widget]

2 Delney and 2 yshtola on board would it be 16 per spell cast ?

[fervent burrow]

12

Each Yshtola is copied twice

[maiden widget]

But both Delney thou ?

[fervent burrow]

(DY2 + Y*2) still works

Delneys don't trigger each other

You cast a spell, each Yshtola triggers for 4 dmg, then Delney 1 triggers them both again (8 dmg), then Delney 2 triggers them both again (12 dmg)

[maiden widget]

My logic was
3CMC
Ysh1 2 + Del1 2
Ysh2 + Del1 2
Ysh1 2 + Del2 2
Ysh2 2 + Del2 2

Wait nvm

I see my flaw

[fervent burrow]

Delney doesn't copy each yshtola triggers, it makes the yshtola trigger again

So each Yshtola will trigger 3 times because there's 2 delneys, so 6 yshtola triggers

[maiden widget]

So if you able to copy 2 and have both Delney and yshtola on board

Who would you copy ?

[fervent burrow]

Yshtolas are better to copy generally

3 Delney and 2 Yshtola is 16 dmg

3 Yshtola and 2 Delney is 18 dmg

But its best to get 2 of each first

4 Yshtolas + 1 Delney is 16 dmg
4 Delneys + 1 Yshtola is 10 dmg

Compare with the 3/2 (getting 2/2 is also best) but sometimes you cant pick

[maiden widget]

I’m tempting to put rite of replication back

[wide quiver]

For?

Seems like a dead card unless you have a nonlegendary token of ysh already out

In which case you're already doing the thing'

[compact vine]

I use it to copy opponents’ shit

But my deck is purposely suboptimal

[wide quiver]

I'm using [[theoretical dupication]] for that type of shenanigans

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/34/theoretical-duplication

Theoretical Duplication <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Whenever a nontoken creature an opponent controls enters this turn, create a token that's a copy of that creature.
"You made it asymmetrical just to annoy me, didn't you?" —Imbraham, Quandrix dean

[compact vine]

Oh damn, I like that a lot actually haha

But Rite of Replication has daddy Gaius on it

[maiden widget]

I just watch too many videos of commanders games on yt

[daring oriole]

I feel kinda silly asking this.. but do i draw 1 card or 3 when pairing curiosity with yshtola

[wide quiver]

3

Depending on the # of opponents

[daring oriole]

damn, i threw my last few games than

[wide quiver]

If it said "one or more opponents" you'd draw 1

But since it says "an opponent" you draw for each opponent you damage

[daring oriole]

set up [[Mindsplice Apparatus]] with [[rite of replication]] sounds fire

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/one/63/mindsplice-apparatus

Mindsplice Apparatus <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Artifact
Flash
At the beginning of your upkeep, put an oil counter on this artifact.
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast for each oil counter on this artifact.

[wide quiver]

I run mindsplice!

[daring oriole]

I'm wondering what card i'd replace to fit in [[Bola's Citadel]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/war/79/bolass-citadel

Bolas's Citadel <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Artifact
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may play lands and cast spells from the top of your library. If you cast a spell this way, pay life equal to its mana value rather than pay its mana cost.
, Sacrifice ten nonland permanents: Each opponent loses 10 life.

[daring oriole]

https://archidekt.com/decks/14346875/v2_upgraded_ffxiv_scions_spellcraft

[compact vine]

Same!

[wide quiver]

OMG twinsies

[maiden widget]

Prolly syphon mind

[compact vine]

Mindsplice is such an insanely good early game play

And an adequate mid game play

[daring oriole]

i was thinkin the same ' 3'

[wide quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-gulpin-kaiju-strolling-gif-1653334894369937238

[maiden widget]

Will it worth 6 mana ?

Prolly not

[wide quiver]

I didn't love it

[maiden widget]

I’m sick of having no blocker thou

[wide quiver]

It kinda fills the same spot as [[hermes]] but more expensive

[maiden widget]

😭

[surreal shoal]

Multiple cards match “hermes”, can you be more specific?

[wide quiver]

[[Hermes||fic]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/36/hermes-overseer-of-elpis

Hermes, Overseer of Elpis <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create a 1/1 blue Bird creature token with flying and vigilance.
Whenever you attack with one or more Birds, scry 2.
"For us, there may be no higher purpose than to live for our world, but what of the other living beings out there?"
2/4

[wide quiver]

Could also run [[bitterblossom]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/69/bitterblossom

Bitterblossom <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Kindred Enchantment — Faerie
At the beginning of your upkeep, you lose 1 life and create a 1/1 black Faerie Rogue creature token with flying.
In Lorwyn's brief evenings, the sun pauses at the horizon long enough for a certain species of violet to bloom with the fragrance of mischief.

[wide quiver]

or [[opheomancer]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/193/ophiomancer

Ophiomancer <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Shaman
At the beginning of each upkeep, if you control no Snakes, create a 1/1 black Snake creature token with deathtouch.
"There are dark, ancient arts that fascinate even me." —Sorin Markov
2/2

[maiden widget]

I took a convincing lost lastnight

Now I want to redo the list

😭

[wide quiver]

Tokens for blocking are pretty necessary, yeah

[maiden widget]

Well I lose to Voltron

Which is annoying

I was trying to be nice and didn’t counterspell their commander 2nd time and they still coming at me

😭

[wide quiver]

Well stop being nice

[maiden widget]

Side note

Yshtola is crazy, all the card I picked up for this deck early almost all rise up in value

[compact vine]

Eyyy, my remaining two Battle Bond lands came in!

Now I’ve got all three 🙂

[maiden widget]

Shitty quality pain land

[compact vine]

Shock land

Better than pain land

[eager moth]

Quick Question does playing cycling trigger y'shtola

[maiden widget]

I don’t think so ?

[maiden widget]

What is that enchantment that ping opponents if I gain life and make 1/1 bat every turn ?

[[lunar convocation]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/223/lunar-convocation

Lunar Convocation <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your end step, if you gained life this turn, each opponent loses 1 life.
At the beginning of your end step, if you gained and lost life this turn, create a 1/1 black Bat creature token with flying.
, Pay 2 life: Draw a card.

[maiden widget]

Found it

[wide quiver]

Yeah I think I like it

[compact vine]

Oh. Oh I really like that.

Especially with [[y’shtola Rhul]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/86/yshtola-rhul

Y'shtola Rhul <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Cat Druid
At the beginning of your end step, exile target creature you control, then return it to the battlefield under its owner's control. Then if it's the first end step of the turn, there is an additional end step after this step.
"As I suspected, the aetheric disturbance here is no natural occurrence."
3/5

[maiden widget]

But Lose life kinda hard

Unless you play [[pyrexian arena]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/180/phyrexian-arena

Phyrexian Arena <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, you draw a card and you lose 1 life.
A spark of resistance against a tide of corruption.

[fervent burrow]

Someone isn't running all the talismans/painlands/fetches/shocks

I've triggered the 4 dmg clause on myself several times lol

[maiden widget]

I wish I own fetches

[lusty igloo]

Won one lost one today. Remind me to play peoples emotions better. Making a control player salty and have them spend all their spells on you is too hard to overcome

I got Emrakul promised ended and killed myself with bolas citadel

[lusty igloo]

WAIT A MINUTE

I HAD HEXPROOF

I HAD SOLITARY CONFINEMENT

Bruhhhh

[void grove]

Cedh?

Emrakul seems to be popular in cedh lately

[lusty igloo]

no b3

eldrazi player

welp im counting that one as a win I had lethal

[weak silo]

Agreed, I dome myself for draw on the regular if needed.

[compact vine]

Thinking about cutting White Auracite

[lusty igloo]

[[white auracite]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/41/white-auracite

White Auracite <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, exile target nonland permanent an opponent controls until this artifact leaves the battlefield.
: Add .
"She gave her life that we might defeat the Ascians. Her sacrifice must not be in vain."

[lusty igloo]

it's not good but not awful. i think there's more FF fluff that's cuttable

[compact vine]

Yeah I cut Murderous Rider instead

Appreciate the insight!

[lusty igloo]

[[murderous rider]]

dang scryfall is lagging

[compact vine]

No kidding XD

[maiden widget]

4 cmc mana rock gotta be my favorite gender

[maiden widget]

Me ask table to hit me if they have a 4/4 on board

[compact vine]

You should have simply had 10 squirrels

[maiden widget]

[[enduring curiosity]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/51/enduring-curiosity

Enduring Curiosity <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment Creature — Cat Glimmer
Flash
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
When Enduring Curiosity dies, if it was a creature, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control. It's an enchantment. (It's not a creature.)
4/3

[maiden widget]

What if I also play this

😭

[soft peak]

Combat damage

Thought u didnt play many creatures

[maiden widget]

Nvm I read it wrong

[compact vine]

I really want to rock [[endwalker]] but it just doesn’t seem good enough for this deck

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fca/28/brainstorm

Brainstorm <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Draw three cards, then put two cards from your hand on top of your library in any order.

[fervent burrow]

I mean i think Brainstorm is good enough for every blue deck- but I know what you mean, there's no synergy. It's a vegetable slot

[compact vine]

Yeah 😦 and we have a shitload if card draw already

[wide quiver]

I really think it's only good if you can shuffle at will

[compact vine]

Yeah I’m gonna refrain from putting it in, even if it’s a major flavour ein

Win

[maiden widget]

It’s like running Counterspell or swan song in the deck

Not synergy l just good

[eager moth]

Does using an ability trigger y'shtola

on an instant]

[maiden widget]

Like ?

Yshtola only care about the Top right CmC

[eager moth]

cycling

[wide quiver]

No

Cycling isn't casting

[maiden widget]

Yeah no

[compact vine]

Alternate costs also don’t count

Like Overload and shit

[maiden widget]

The rule of thumb for yshtola

Only look at the top right

If it’s 3 or more = yes
2 or less = no

[eager moth]

what is cycling then

[wide quiver]

An activated ability

[eager moth]

when can i use the ability?

from my hand?

[soft peak]

ya

any time, instant speed

[fervent burrow]

All activated abilities (unless otherwise stated) can be done at instant speed. If you look at something like [[ziatora proving ground]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/261/ziatoras-proving-ground

Ziatora's Proving Ground

Land — Swamp Mountain Forest
(: Add , , or .)
This land enters tapped.
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
Restless Riveteers can always find a sparring partner in the sprawling Treza warehouse.

[fervent burrow]

You'll notice the reminder text has a ":". The : denotes it is an activated ability. Irrelevant to Yshtola, unfortunately

[eager moth]

im trying to use https://scryfall.com/search?q=otag%3Acheaper-than-mv+-t%3Acreature+ci%3Aesper&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name but most of it isnt casting

does anyone have a better list of instants that trigger y'shtola for cheap or free

[fervent burrow]

If i wasn't swamped at work id try to refine. It a bit but I see what you're going for

Is budget a concern? Checking the pinned tab for our decklists + edhrec probably has 90% of the relevant ones

[eager moth]

not budget i mean man

mana*

And i just play online

[fervent burrow]

I know, I just meant because stuff like [[force of will]] is an example but $$$

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/50/force-of-will

Force of Will <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
You may pay 1 life and exile a blue card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Counter target spell.
"Your artillery will burn itself out before I allow my focus to waver."

[eager moth]

yeah i have that stuff in there

[fervent burrow]

If no one else made one before I get home in 2 hours I'll try to refine

Beyond edhrec I dont have a quick list though

Flash and stuff is also relevant

[eager moth]

I prefer just cheap instants

[compact vine]

I run Displacer Kitten because I have things like Torrential Gearhulk and Quistis Trepe

Not at ALL optimal, but I like it

[maiden widget]

I run displacer kitten bc cat tribal

🐱

[maiden widget]

I just learn this card exist

[[spell swindle]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/237/spell-swindle

Spell Swindle <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target spell. Create X Treasure tokens, where X is that spell's mana value. (They're artifacts with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")

[wide quiver]

I got one, but I don't think I love it?

It honestly seems pretty good though, hmm

Pretty similar to [[rewind]] tbh

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/m21/63/rewind

Rewind <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target spell. Untap up to four lands.
"The best denials are simply that: a beginning and end unchanged, a dream with no memory."

[wide quiver]

Although a bit worse

[compact vine]

There’s also the other one that costs 3 and untaps 3 lands

[maiden widget]

Imagine counter an 8 mana spell

[wide quiver]

Yeah, unwind is also good

Yeah, but imagine needing to counter a 1 mana spell

It's like a high mv mana drain

[maiden widget]

Yeah that’s was on a list of budget replacements of commander staple

[lusty igloo]

Are you guys on dig through time

[wide quiver]

I am

[maiden widget]

Also for [[submerge]] do I have to bounce the player with forest ?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/nem/48/submerge

Submerge <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
If an opponent controls a Forest and you control an Island, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Put target creature on top of its owner's library.

[maiden widget]

I assume not

[wide quiver]

No

[maiden widget]

But it’s still a dead spell 30% of the time

[lusty igloo]

I'm still on it, fre spell is free spell

[lusty igloo]

@marsh solar your proxy is very popular

[marsh solar]

Well, I’m glad everybody likes it! Thanks for letting me know

[lusty igloo]

Mother of Runes > Defector Mite right

The drawback is protection from blue = bye bye curiosity

Defector Mite enables mox amber but can't defend itself from removal

[granite sky]

im here

[granite sky]

is [[professor onyx]] just too expensive for this deck and its motives

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/153/professor-onyx

Professor Onyx <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Planeswalker — Liliana
Magecraft — Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, each opponent loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
+1: You lose 1 life. Look at the top three cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest into your graveyard.
−3: Each opponent sacrifices a creature with the greatest power among creatures that player controls.
−8: Each opponent may discard a card. If they don't, they lose 3 life. Repeat this process six more times.
Loyalty: 5

[maiden widget]

Yeah

[lusty igloo]

for planeswalkers, play [[kaito, bane of nightmares]]

guranteed draw 3.5 cards once. get lucky get 7 draws. if you can protect him even better

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/220/kaito-bane-of-nightmares

Kaito, Bane of Nightmares <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Planeswalker — Kaito
Ninjutsu (, Return an unblocked attacker you control to hand: Put this card onto the battlefield from your hand tapped and attacking.)
During your turn, as long as Kaito has one or more loyalty counters on him, he's a 3/4 Ninja creature and has hexproof.
+1: You get an emblem with "Ninjas you control get +1/+1."
0: Surveil 2. Then draw a card for each opponent who lost life this turn.
−2: Tap target creature. Put two stun counters on it.
Loyalty: 4

[lusty igloo]

(counting surveil 2 as .5 draw)

[fervent burrow]

Professor Onyx can work if you're playing at a lower level i suppose but the deck is always strong

[compact vine]

I don’t like Planeswalkers in this deck in general

But if I were to play one, yeah, that Kaito’s the one

[soft peak]

Speaking of lower powered planeswalkers

I like

[[The wanderer]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/843/the-wanderer

The Wanderer <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Planeswalker
Prevent all noncombat damage that would be dealt to you and other permanents you control.
−2: Exile target creature with power 4 or greater.
Loyalty: 5

[granite sky]

I think [[dissipation field]] is some hidden tech

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/718/dissipation-field

Dissipation Field <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever a permanent deals damage to you, return it to its owner's hand.
"Strike me once, shame on you. Strike me twice . . . Well, let's just see if you can." —Kara Vrist, Neurok agent

[granite sky]

Haven’t seen anyone talk about this as some pillowforting yet

[fervent burrow]

[[No mercy]] is the same but better likely

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/95/no-mercy

No Mercy <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever a creature deals damage to you, destroy it.
"We had years to prepare, while they had mere minutes." —Kerrick, sleeper agent

[fervent burrow]

I suppose dissipation hits non creatures but I assume it'll be mostly creature damage

[compact vine]

Different, wouldn’t say better. There’s a LOT of Indestructible in the game, but not nearly as many ways to prevent bouncing

[granite sky]

Already got it in 😉

[granite sky]

[[brash taunter]]? Nah [[purphoros forge]]? Sike [[impact tremors]]? Impacted back to your hand

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/161/brash-taunter

Brash Taunter <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manar:292901508796645397>

Creature — Goblin
Indestructible
Whenever this creature is dealt damage, it deals that much damage to target opponent.
, : This creature fights another target creature.
"Why don't you come a little closer and say that again, you spineless spit-licker!"
1/1

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/246/purphoros-god-of-the-forge

Purphoros, God of the Forge <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
Indestructible
As long as your devotion to red is less than five, Purphoros isn't a creature.
Whenever another creature you control enters, Purphoros deals 2 damage to each opponent.
: Creatures you control get +1/+0 until end of turn.
6/5

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/717/impact-tremors

Impact Tremors <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
Whenever a creature you control enters, this enchantment deals 1 damage to each opponent.
"If their ears are to the ground, we will make them bleed!" —Taklai, Kolaghan warrior

[granite sky]

I know all of those examples are red only but uhhh

[soft peak]

there's also [[Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/sok/19/michiko-konda-truth-seeker

Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
Whenever a source an opponent controls deals damage to you, that player sacrifices a permanent of their choice.
"Watch over my father. Tell him I'm safe, but I won't come home until I find out how to bring him back to his senses, and Kamigawa is again at peace." —Michiko Konda, last letter to General Takeno
2/2

[wide quiver]

Ooooh, I like it

Not really in this deck, but i like it

[soft peak]

one of my friends put cards like these in their deck to counter y'shtola

😭

[compact vine]

That’s BM 😛

[soft peak]

the cat had terrorized the table for long enough clearly

[granite sky]

How do we feel about [[thran dynamo]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/415/thran-dynamo

Thran Dynamo <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
: Add .
Urza's metathran children were conceived, birthed, and nurtured by an integrated system of machines.

[granite sky]

Effectively 1 mana on drop but filters to colorless

[lusty igloo]

Tried this one. The colorless sucks, and sometimes it's too much colorless. I also tried [[victory chimes]] and I once again didn't like the colored aspect

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/274/victory-chimes

Victory Chimes <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
Untap this artifact during each other player's untap step.
: A player of your choice adds .
The favored noisemaker of goblins ever since the wardens cracked down on explosives.

[lusty igloo]

I recommend [[relic of legends]] if you have enough legendary creatures. Just a few is enough.

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/236/relic-of-legends

Relic of Legends <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
: Add one mana of any color.
Tap an untapped legendary creature you control: Add one mana of any color.
"If the worst parts of history can repeat themselves, it stands to reason that the best parts can as well." —Teferi

[granite sky]

I have this already. somehow I snagged the precon for MSRP

[lusty igloo]

Oh nice

[granite sky]

yeah w

[lusty igloo]

Decanter of endless water if you're low on reliquary tower effects. I recently replaced with thought vessel, not sure if that was correct

Once again I'm gonna highly recommend the one mana interaction spells. Swan song, offer you can't refuse, and [[restoration magic]] get overlooked since they aren't CMC 3 but are rlyyyy good

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/30/restoration-magic

Restoration Magic <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Tiered (Choose one additional cost.)
• Cure — — Target permanent gains hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.
• Cura — — Target permanent gains hexproof and indestructible until end of turn. You gain 3 life.
• Curaga — — Permanents you control gain hexproof and indestructible until end of turn. You gain 6 life.

[lusty igloo]

And those aren't colorless so victory chimes was a bust

[compact vine]

Hell, just Y’shtola is enough

[lusty igloo]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[maiden widget]

For this I think ultimate magic is better

[lusty igloo]

[[ultimate magic]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/110/ultimate-magic:-holy

Ultimate Magic: Holy <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Permanents you control gain indestructible until end of turn. If this spell was cast from exile, prevent all damage that would be dealt to you this turn.
Foretell (During your turn, you may pay and exile this card from your hand face down. Cast it on a later turn for its foretell cost.)

[lusty igloo]

3 mana vs 1. i disagree

restoration magic is being played in cedh

[maiden widget]

I don’t play cedh

[lusty igloo]

"indestructible" is so much worse than indestructible + hexproof btw. it gives hexproof is huge

prevents literally everything (obituary, bounce, exile, etc) when for 3 mana more you get a dollar-store [[flawless maneuver]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/24/flawless-maneuver

Flawless Maneuver <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
If you control a commander, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Creatures you control gain indestructible until end of turn.
"Captain, your units are the tip of our spear. There is zero room for failure." —Jirina Kudro

[lusty igloo]

can I have an evaluation of whether I was wrong in this scenario? I bullied someone I just met two days ago and he got salty and started spite targetting me. And the others in my pod called me ruthless. I still feel bad about it. It was a fellow Y'shtola player too His vibe went super down and he scooped out of frustration and left the store.

T2: he played sol ring + esper sentinel. I dismembered esper sentinel.
T3: he played smothering tithe. I grasp of fate it. he countered.
T5: He played yshtola and equipped lightning greaves. I killed yshtola before he could equip greaves.
T6: I played farewell to kill smothering tithe and all his treasures

I did next to nothing to the others in the pod during that time (I thought the sol ring/tithe player was a big threat). The things I felt bad about were esper sentinel (did I really need to kill that little guy?), and Y'shtola (Lightning greaves isnt that concerning... it's not swiftfoot boots and she didnt have curiosity yet)

I don't regret getting rid of smothering. with my curiosity I would've enabled him too far.

[maiden widget]

lol I never feel bad when I killed GC stuff

[lusty igloo]

yeah but am I supposed to pull back punches to let others get to play the game?

[soft peak]

yeah ngl i dont like ultimate magic holy

[[flare of protection]] much prefer this

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “flare of protection”

[soft peak]

[[flare of fortitude]] whoops

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/26/flare-of-fortitude

Flare of Fortitude <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
You may sacrifice a nontoken white creature rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Until end of turn, your life total can't change, and permanents you control gain hexproof and indestructible.
"I call upon a power greater than myself."

[lusty igloo]

That looks rly good

I just don't have enough creatures

[wide quiver]

[[the wandering emperor]] is another planeswalker I'd consider

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/42/the-wandering-emperor

The Wandering Emperor <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Planeswalker
Flash
As long as The Wandering Emperor entered this turn, you may activate her loyalty abilities any time you could cast an instant.
+1: Put a +1/+1 counter on up to one target creature. It gains first strike until end of turn.
−1: Create a 2/2 white Samurai creature token with vigilance.
−2: Exile target tapped creature. You gain 2 life.
Loyalty: 3

[compact vine]

Esper Sentinel’s always worth getting rid of

[maiden widget]

Does this card good [[decode transmission]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/94/decode-transmissions

Decode Transmissions <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
You draw two cards and lose 2 life.
Void — If a nonland permanent left the battlefield this turn or a spell was warped this turn, instead you draw two cards and each opponent loses 2 life.
"You would kill the Faller—our messiah—and call us monsters?"

[maiden widget]

I played it in pre release and thought about our cat gird

[compact vine]

I could see it being pretty good

[lusty igloo]

I personally dont run risky shortcuts

so i wouldnt run that either

[soft peak]

^ at sorcery speed the draw card has to be real good for me to consider

Stock up might be the only one I would run

[fervent burrow]

but rmember it's also another card, since each opponent leses 2 life

So if 3 mana draw 3 drain 4 sorcery isnt good enough, thats fine

[soft peak]

ONLY if yshtola is alive

Thats my issue w/ it personally

And burning that mana at sorcery speed to draw may mean you wouldnt have mana to protect her

[fervent burrow]

I have to assume yshtola is always alive in this deck or im not winning tbh

[soft peak]

True

Again other half is keeping her alive which I require open mana for

[lusty igloo]

for me stock ups looking up at 5 cards and getting 2 is more valuable than risky shortcuts getting raw 3. esp. since stock up can contribute to getting 3 with one more spell

anyone else having [[otawara soaring city]] and [[boseiju who endures]] be a pain in the ass?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/271/otawara-soaring-city

Otawara, Soaring City

Legendary Land
: Add .
Channel — , Discard this card: Return target artifact, creature, enchantment, or planeswalker to its owner's hand. This ability costs less to activate for each legendary creature you control.

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/266/boseiju-who-endures

Boseiju, Who Endures

Legendary Land
: Add .
Channel — , Discard this card: Destroy target artifact, enchantment, or nonbasic land an opponent controls. That player may search their library for a land card with a basic land type, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle. This ability costs less to activate for each legendary creature you control.

[lusty igloo]

it's annoying when i have mana for counterspells and they just channel

[fervent burrow]

Thats where [[disallow]] comes in

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/aer/31/disallow

Disallow <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target spell, activated ability, or triggered ability. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
"How easily your flames are quenched." —Baral, Chief of Compliance

[lusty igloo]

yeah i have disallow

[maiden widget]

Can’t believe people do t run Risky shortcut

[lusty igloo]

synergy bait

(imo but 100% fine to put in)

for actual synergy bait I think Jin gitaxias is a fraud. but that's just me

[maiden widget]

Jin is funny if you can flip him

[robust rapids]

What are people using [[Displacer Kitten]] for in Y'sh?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/63/displacer-kitten

Displacer Kitten <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Cat Beast
Avoidance — Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, exile up to one target nonland permanent you control, then return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control.
"Isn't she the cutest thing you've almost seen?" —Doen, purveyor of exotic pets
2/2

[lusty igloo]

I don't agree with it having a place in b3 y'shtola. But the main reason is kitten is a combo piece alongside t3feri + a mana positive rock

kitten also offers a little bit of protection, but it's limited. it kills curiosity, and half your noncreature spells are counterspells

[compact vine]

I use it with Quistis and Torrential Gearhulk

And Tataru 😛

That’s it

[lusty igloo]

mana positive rocks a sparse in b3 (sol ring, maybe a mox amber), and there arent many tutors to assemble. and t3feris silence effect is a less important. so i'd not run the combo

[robust rapids]

So mainly a combo piece with a little bit of utility depending on your creature package, thank you.

[lusty igloo]

yup. you should only consider it if you have lots of ETB effects which I don't think most decks should have

(it's stronger in high power when we have access to a bunch of more rocks like mox diamond, chrome mox, mox opal, lotus petal, etc)

[compact vine]

I play suboptimal cards anyway (the aforementioned ones) so it works 😛

I also play Y’shtola Rhul

Which fucks most severely with Fandaniel

[robust rapids]

Have either of you ran [[Flawless Maneuver]] or [[Clever Concealment]] and if so what were youre thoughts?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/24/flawless-maneuver

Flawless Maneuver <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
If you control a commander, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Creatures you control gain indestructible until end of turn.
"Captain, your units are the tip of our spear. There is zero room for failure." —Jirina Kudro

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/236/clever-concealment

Clever Concealment <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
Any number of target nonland permanents you control phase out. (Treat them and anything attached to them as though they don't exist until your next turn.)

[lusty igloo]

i run flawless. it's not one of the best cards in the deck, but it's still a free 3cmc spell

i dont run clever concealment, but might if you have lots of creatures s.t. you can reliably cast it for free. I have 9 creatures in my deck.

[robust rapids]

How many creatures would you consider to make it worth running?

[lusty igloo]

not srue tbh. im not good with numbers, i go by feel by goldfishing for hours like a loser 💀

just having to keep a few things in mind: your yshtola cant get any triggres while it's phased out. and you might be open to get hit while your people are waiting to phase back in. so it's worth thinking if phasing out is better than a raw protection spell

[robust rapids]

that's fair and i guess if I cast it with just her out thats only a discount of 1 so at 3 mana I could just run a better non conditional protection

ty

[lusty igloo]

[weak silo]

[[Solitary Confinement]] has been a huge mvp in my last few games.
Also I tried out having [[Said // Done]] and [[Call to Mind]] as a potential means for inevitibility/closing out the game and it worked pretty good as well

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/265/solitary-confinement

Solitary Confinement <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this enchantment unless you discard a card.
Skip your draw step.
You have shroud. (You can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you.

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/60/said-done

Said <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand.

Done
Instant
Tap up to two target creatures. Those creatures don't untap during their controller's next untap step.

https://scryfall.com/card/c14/101/call-to-mind

Call to Mind <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand.
"It's hard to say which is more satisfying: the search for that missing piece or fitting that piece into place." —Evo Ragus

[soft peak]

a different phasing card I run is [[March of swirling mist]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/61/march-of-swirling-mist

March of Swirling Mist <:manax:292901509082120202><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
As an additional cost to cast this spell, you may exile any number of blue cards from your hand. This spell costs less to cast for each card exiled this way.
Up to X target creatures phase out. (While they're phased out, they're treated as though they don't exist. Each one phases in before its controller untaps during their next untap step.)

[pallid ocean]

[[despark]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/284/despark

Despark <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Exile target permanent with mana value 4 or greater.
Liliana whispered to whatever consciousness Oketra and Bontu had left. "You are the gods. He is the usurper. You know what to do."

[pallid ocean]

Mostly just for the FFXIV promo

[robust rapids]

Have you guys been running [[stroke of midnight]] and [[generous gift]] ? 3 cmc removes mostly anything seems a good fit for ysh but im not sure

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/132/stroke-of-midnight

Stroke of Midnight <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target nonland permanent. Its controller creates a 1/1 white Human creature token.
The assembled partygoers fell silent and stared. As the helmet came to a clattering stop, the only sound was Ash's distant footsteps.

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/128/generous-gift

Generous Gift <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target permanent. Its controller creates a 3/3 green Elephant creature token.
The best presents are impossible to regift.

[daring oriole]

I run both

[wide quiver]

Yep

[daring oriole]

Thoughts on [[singularity rupture]] and [[painful quandary]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/228/singularity-rupture

Singularity Rupture <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures, then any number of target players each mill half their library, rounded down.
"Rejoice! For within sekhar, the final sacrifice, you will find passage to the Next Eternity." —Calnan, Monoist assassin

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/179/painful-quandary

Painful Quandary <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent casts a spell, that player loses 5 life unless they discard a card.
In Mishra's desperation to destroy his brother, he allowed Gix to destroy him instead.

[wide quiver]

Singularity rupture is garbage

Painful quandary seems okay, just a little high in cost

[robust rapids]

Thank you

[daring oriole]

idk, i thought rupture plus [[scavenger grounds]] would be neato

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/316/scavenger-grounds

Scavenger Grounds

Land — Desert
: Add .
, , Sacrifice a Desert: Exile all graveyards.
When the last scrap of flesh is scoured away, the Curse of Wandering ends. Then the dead may sleep.

[fervent burrow]

Do you have mill synergy in your deck? I think the real point is it's a 6 mana boardwipe when we can run 5 mana wipes that give us upside (like not letting yshtola die) and in worse case, if you don't have your scav grounds, you've enabled any decks with graveyard synergy

[wide quiver]

Mill is generally just bad unless you're winning through mill

[daring oriole]

could you give me some examples of board wipes that'll stil keep y'sh alive? i'm already running [[toxic deluge]] and [[Yahenni's Expertise]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/277/toxic-deluge

Toxic Deluge <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, pay X life.
All creatures get -X/-X until end of turn.
"It's a difficult task to quarantine a plague that moves with the clouds." —Esara, healer adept

https://scryfall.com/card/aer/75/yahennis-expertise

Yahenni's Expertise <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
All creatures get -3/-3 until end of turn.
You may cast a spell with mana value 3 or less from your hand without paying its mana cost.
"The Consulate pushed me to my limit, darling, and this is the result."

[fervent burrow]

[[starfall invocation]] brings her back, which is the same for 99% of cases

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/34/starfall-invocation

Starfall Invocation <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Gift a card (You may promise an opponent a gift as you cast this spell. If you do, they draw a card before its other effects.)
Destroy all creatures. If the gift was promised, return a creature card put into your graveyard this way to the battlefield under your control.
Nothing lurks in the purity of the moon's light.

[daring oriole]

i guess i'll keep [[cleansing nova]] in the deck then

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/817/cleansing-nova

Cleansing Nova <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Choose one —
• Destroy all creatures.
• Destroy all artifacts and enchantments.
In their final moments, the demons gazed upon grace in its purest form.

[wide quiver]

[[battle of bywaters]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/2/the-battle-of-bywater

The Battle of Bywater <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures with power 3 or greater. Then create a Food token for each creature you control. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
The Tooks marched in with Pippin at their head. Merry now had enough sturdy Hobbitry to deal with the ruffians.

[wide quiver]

[[dusk dawn]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/61/dusk-dawn

Dusk <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures with power 3 or greater.

Dawn
Sorcery
Aftermath (Cast this spell only from your graveyard. Then exile it.)
Return all creature cards with power 2 or less from your graveyard to your hand.

[fervent burrow]

[[promise of loytalty

[[promise of loyalty]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/79/promise-of-loyalty

Promise of Loyalty <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player puts a vow counter on a creature they control and sacrifices the rest. Each of those creatures can't attack you or planeswalkers you control for as long as it has a vow counter on it.
"It's us against the world. Forever."

[wide quiver]

What's that other one where you choose power <= 4?

[[slaughter the strong]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/131/slaughter-the-strong

Slaughter the Strong <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player chooses any number of creatures they control with total power 4 or less, then sacrifices all other creatures they control.
"Cut the beasts out from under them and their strength is nothing." —Vona of Iedo, Butcher of Magan

[soft peak]

[[Tragic arrogance]] as well

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/109/tragic-arrogance

Tragic Arrogance <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
For each player, you choose from among the permanents that player controls an artifact, a creature, an enchantment, and a planeswalker. Then each player sacrifices all other nonland permanents they control.
The spear thrown by Kytheon's own hand was the weapon that felled his friends.

[daring oriole]

Can i get my previously pinned deck removed and add this one instead?

https://archidekt.com/decks/14346875/v2_upgraded_ffxiv_scions_spellcraft

[compact vine]

I run Damn, Promise of Loyalty, and Vanquish the Horde as my board wipes

Only reason I run Damn is I have the secret lair

[weak silo]

[[retribution of the meek]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/vis/19/retribution-of-the-meek

Retribution of the Meek <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures with power 4 or greater. They can't be regenerated.
"Tread upon the meek, and they shall wound your feet and make you crawl." —Asmira, Holy Avenger

[lusty igloo]

[[Unstable glyphbridge]], aforementioned promise of loyalty, slaughter the strong, tragic arrogance are all really good. starfall invocation is fine... kills curiosity. there's also single combat but i dont recommend it personally (them getting to pick what survives should be avoided)

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/41/unstable-glyphbridge-sandswirl-wanderglyph

Unstable Glyphbridge <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, if you cast it, for each player, choose a creature with power 2 or less that player controls. Then destroy all creatures except creatures chosen this way.
Craft with artifact (, Exile this artifact, Exile another artifact you control or an artifact card from your graveyard: Return this card transformed under its owner's control. Craft only as a sorcery.)

Sandswirl Wanderglyph
Artifact Creature — Golem
Flying
Whenever an opponent casts a spell during their turn, they can't attack you or planeswalkers you control this turn.
Each opponent who attacked you or a planeswalker you control this turn can't cast spells.
5/3

[daring oriole]

Thanks for the assistance guys, I'll consider making room for one of em

I was in between slaughter the strong and promise of loyalty and fit the ladder in a couple days ago

[maiden widget]

What card from edge are we edging into the deck ?

[[vote out]] [[singularity rupture]] [[requiem monolith]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/126/vote-out

Vote Out <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
Destroy target creature.
Democracy is not always just.

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/228/singularity-rupture

Singularity Rupture <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures, then any number of target players each mill half their library, rounded down.
"Rejoice! For within sekhar, the final sacrifice, you will find passage to the Next Eternity." —Calnan, Monoist assassin

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/113/requiem-monolith

Requiem Monolith <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Artifact
: Until end of turn, target creature gains "Whenever this creature is dealt damage, you draw that many cards and lose that much life." That creature's controller may have this artifact deal 1 damage to it. Activate only as a sorcery.

[maiden widget]

This is some of my tempting one

[fervent burrow]

Tbh im not wild on any of em. Vote Out is a significantly worse [[pile on]] (but im not wild about convoke either because this deck typically has few creatures)

Rupture we talked about earlier, I just dont see any reason to mill people in this deck, and if thats your whole strat... we'll thats not a typical yshtola haha

Monolith I feel like is generically decent but not good enough for this deck, just because you aren't swinging or pinging your creatures in this deck - its just phyrexian arena with extra steps and can fail if I have no creatures

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/134/pile-on

Pile On <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. Surveil 2. (Look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them into your graveyard and the rest on top of your library in any order.)

[maiden widget]

The super void thou

[wide quiver]

Yeah they're all bad imo

Supervoid doesn't really fit either, unless we're running a more creature heavy deck

[mild harness]

https://archidekt.com/decks/13639736/yshtola_nights_blessed_wip What do you guys think I can cut for Godless Shrine?

[granite sky]

[[polluted bonds]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/shm/74/polluted-bonds

Polluted Bonds <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever a land an opponent controls enters, that player loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
The mystic bond between spellcasters and the land is just as vulnerable to attack as the casters themselves.

[mild harness]

that looks disgusting

[granite sky]

:D

but not sure if I love the mana cost

late game I doubt it will really pop off

[mild harness]

against the landfall player theyre going to crumple regardless

[granite sky]

boowomp landfall player

[maiden widget]

I just pulled the anime art of this and consider a deck for it

[wide quiver]

Seems rough for 5 mana, but that's a good reason to run it

[maiden widget]

Nah I’ll make it a trade bait ngl

[desert sequoia]

Target your opponent's creatures during combat with it instead, and Monolith suddenly looks pretty decent. What are the odds no one is blocking?

[lusty igloo]

i agree with Larconodos

rupture is especially useless

@desert sequoia sorcery speed

[soft peak]

[[!ankh of mishra

[[ankh of mishra]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/vma/263/ankh-of-mishra

Ankh of Mishra <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
Whenever a land enters, this artifact deals 2 damage to that land's controller.
Tawnos finally cracked the puzzle: the strange structures did not house Mishra's malevolent creations but were themselves among his creations.

[lusty igloo]

rly good card

definitely considerable to run

[maiden widget]

But [[poluted bond]] is funny

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/shm/74/polluted-bonds

Polluted Bonds <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever a land an opponent controls enters, that player loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
The mystic bond between spellcasters and the land is just as vulnerable to attack as the casters themselves.

[maiden widget]

And have anime art

If I play bonds I would drop Bonds at 5 mana

And yshtola at 6 mana

the more i play this deck the more i think it need like lothos smothering tithe and maybe tataru taru for ramp

or am just not playing enough free spell

[lusty igloo]

are you guys actually getting value from this guy:

Emet-Selch of the Third Seat

[maiden widget]

[[(Emet-Selch of the Third Seat]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/81/emet-selch-of-the-third-seat

Emet-Selch of the Third Seat <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Spells you cast from your graveyard cost less to cast.
Whenever one or more opponents lose life, you may cast target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard. If that spell would be put into your graveyard, exile it instead. Do this only once each turn.
3/4

[maiden widget]

yes

[desert sequoia]

I was pitching a good version of it. This one's might be decent in like... Jund Enrage.

[maiden widget]

sometime hes just a free spell cast

and somehow people kill him on sight

[lusty igloo]

im gonna skip on him

cant imagine him popping off

[desert sequoia]

I don't like him. I don't use my grave like that. He fucks in [[Kess, Dissident Mage]] tho

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/344/kess-dissident-mage

Kess, Dissident Mage <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Flying
Once during each of your turns, you may cast an instant or sorcery spell from your graveyard. If a spell cast this way would be put into your graveyard, exile it instead.
"Loss has no meaning here. You cannot take from those who have nothing."
3/4

[weak silo]

Love the card but I don't run him in this deck

[compact vine]

You likely just need to trim out some of your higher cost shit for more 3 mana cards. That’s another downside to running more than three board wipes: they’re almost all high cost.

I haven’t found any problems with playing on curve myself

[weak silo]

Yeah I mostly care about getting to 6 mana and anything beyond that is a bonus.

[maiden widget]

Good for you

[compact vine]

I offer genuine advice and I get “buddy’d” 😛

Back to harsh truths then.

If you stuck to a gameplan that wasn’t “slow the game to a crawl and reset everything to 0 whenever possible” you’d have a lot less problems.

[elder lagoon]

At this point y’all should just block each other

[compact vine]

I was legit trying to be helpful

[wide quiver]

Mommy and daddy are fighting 😔

[maiden widget]

😭

[compact vine]

Finally found a Ghastlord

[maiden widget]

Now I have 35 land + 2MDFC, with 10 ramps option. I can get yshtola out at 4 mana like turn 3-4 but I know she will get removed real fast now aday that’s why I’m leaning more of waiting for have like 2 extra mana before casting yshtola herself

(FYI I cut down to only have 3 BW left so stop 🛑)

[wide quiver]

Nice!

I think I'm going to put [[painful quandary]] in

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/179/painful-quandary

Painful Quandary <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent casts a spell, that player loses 5 life unless they discard a card.
In Mishra's desperation to destroy his brother, he allowed Gix to destroy him instead.

[maiden widget]

For 5 mana you think this or poluted bond better ?

[compact vine]

Much better 👍

I personally would do Polluted Bonds between the two

But I think Painful Quandary is the better card

[lusty igloo]

agree^

im a bit worried about reverse-pillowfort cards in general tho

[wide quiver]

[[oppression]] like a cool kid

[lusty igloo]

you're gonna get targeted with a painful q on your side

[wide quiver]

You're already getting targeted

[lusty igloo]

[maiden widget]

With poluted bond you only get targeted by lands player

[wide quiver]

Or anyone with fetchlands

[maiden widget]

But no one gonna think it’s the threat

[compact vine]

What! Not me! I’m just a little guy. That guy over there has a big scary 8/8! he’s clearly the threat! 👀

[maiden widget]

At lower brackets

[wide quiver]

I'm just a little bean

[compact vine]

I’m just a little catgirl

Nya

[wide quiver]

🤢

[compact vine]

I had to hahaha

https://youtu.be/-ldTM27mlc4?si=hct6ZMVmXrAWcU7w

[granite sky]

This is probably more oppressive but polluted bond is going to draw you less hate

If you have the type of deck to stop people from player removal-ing you, then I’d choose painful, or both

[maiden widget]

But now I think about it I’m already playing Rystic study

People already hate me

😭

[lusty igloo]

bro's on 5 gamechangers in b3

[maiden widget]

Only 3

I haven’t update list for couple days

The danger of talking to yall at a lgs

😂

[lusty igloo]

which ones?

[maiden widget]

Cyrift

[lusty igloo]

dropped?

[maiden widget]

Yeah

[lusty igloo]

FINALLY

[maiden widget]

I put it in Hope deck bc it’s hope in the art

[lusty igloo]

[maiden widget]

I’m giving bolas citadel another week

[lusty igloo]

bro put sensei top in there

why is it there with top smh

[maiden widget]

If I don’t like it then I’ll cut it for Grand aubiter

[lusty igloo]

it's a gameending combo piece

[maiden widget]

I’m not putting a card in for a specific combo

(Looking at displacer kitten)

[lusty igloo]

bro both cards are good on their own

[maiden widget]

😆

[lusty igloo]

you need like 8+ fetches and top puts in work

and unlike t3f + kitten you dont need 3 peices just 2

up to you tho

[maiden widget]

You think I have money for 8 fetch lands lmao

(Jkjk)

[lusty igloo]

mfs be spending money on every card except their mana base i swear

[maiden widget]

I have 3 shocks now alright

[compact vine]

I sadly only have one shock, but I’ve got all the Verges and battle bonds

[lusty igloo]

just proxy them man

[maiden widget]

2 of the shocks are from edge

Cheap af now

Watery grave and godless shine

[compact vine]

I honestly should’ve done this from the beginning 😛

[compact vine]

Yeah the one I’ve got, I bought today haha

[maiden widget]

Unless I really need it I usually don’t proxy lol

I look at my mana base today it’s ain’t too bad

[compact vine]

I’m not buying EoE packs though, I only need like five cards from the entire set

[lusty igloo]

i have multiple of every fetch. but im fkn done buying them. if i need 8-10 fetches in every deck im just proxying new ones from now on. it's just way too pricy

[compact vine]

Verges are crazy good and inexpensive

[lusty igloo]

my motto is at least own 1 real card of every card i proxy. i dont want to own like 10 underground seas

i just cant afford it

[compact vine]

That’s absolutely fair hha

[maiden widget]

The fully come in tapped now the bounce land the triples color

[compact vine]

THIS card is going to be expensive as all hell

[maiden widget]

Unfetchable shock

[lusty igloo]

im using some shady chinese guy atm. his proxies are super hgih quality.

ALSO dont use proxyking.biz . they steal your credit card info and go wild with it

they spent $2k and $4.5k with my credit card and i used them twice

[compact vine]

I had a really good proxy guy, but he stopped 😦

he did all my Digimon tokens, my EMIYA version of Nahiri, and my Squirrel Girl version of Chatterfang

[maiden widget]

Imagine using anything .biz

Aren’t we not suppose to talk about how you get your proxy

[lusty igloo]

idk i didnt read the rules

[compact vine]

My problem is I’m only buying canadian right now because the tariffs absolutely fuck me in customs charges

[maiden widget]

I remember got yelled at

[lusty igloo]

ok i delete

[maiden widget]

Honestly starting town still better

[compact vine]

I do have starting town. This one’s more for having the land name though

Activates Verge and all the shit that enters tapped unless you have X

I’ll definitely be running both

[maiden widget]

Wait verge is not that cheap compare to shock or BB

Maybe cheaper than fetches

[compact vine]

Wait really? When I got them they were hella cheap 😦

Like $8

[maiden widget]

Villain arc restore

[robust rapids]

What do you guys think of [[Ringsight]] ? with ysh out it tutors for anything in the deck and most the creatures I see in decks are legendary but seems risky at its unplayable without a creature on board in a relatively creature light deck

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/220/ringsight

Ringsight <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
The Ring tempts you. Search your library for a card that shares a color with a legendary creature you control, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
Frodo was able to see beneath their black wrappings. In their white faces burned keen and merciless eyes.

[elder lagoon]

It’s good

I think it’s a pretty fine tutor compared to the suite available

[maiden widget]

The only reason I don’t run it bc half of the time I don’t remember what the ring tempts you does

[robust rapids]

Valid

[lusty igloo]

seems side-grade to idyllic tutor i think. more flexibility when y'shtola is out, dead outherwise

[compact vine]

Beseech is still my go to for this deck, and the only tutor I run

[lusty igloo]

yeah it's beseech > grim > idyllic/ringsight i think

[compact vine]

I just like that it triggers Y’shtola twice 🙂

[lusty igloo]

im keeping iydllic for now cuz of laziness. im not 100% sure which is correct/better

[compact vine]

Same reason I run Talent of the Telepath. Up to three triggers at once.

[robust rapids]

What do you use to bargain the beseech?

[lusty igloo]

artifacts usually

my 3 go-tos are helm of the ghastlord, smothering tithe, and solitary confinement

[elder lagoon]

You can completely ignore it if you want - it’s only a benefit to you and tbh I just forget anyway

[maiden widget]

finally updated the deck online https://archidekt.com/decks/14455731/yshtola_scion_of_salt_production

[weak silo]

It's a strong tutor for sure

[compact vine]

You can also use any bird/treasure/shark token you may have

[maiden widget]

Just use the treasure token you got from
AOYCR

[granite sky]

They’ll go up again when supply dwindles

[granite sky]

Painful quandale

[compact vine]

The what now? 😛

I’m bad with acronyms in this game haha

All I can think of is “As Per Your _______”

[maiden widget]

There fixed it

[compact vine]

I still don’t know it XD

[wide quiver]

Always Own Your Criminal Record

[maiden widget]

[[Nicht ablehnbares Angebot]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/160/de/nicht-ablehnbares-angebot-(an-offer-you-cant-refuse)

Nicht ablehnbares Angebot <:manau:292901508754702338>

Spontanzauber
Neutralisiere einen Nichtkreatur-Zauberspruch deiner Wahl. Sein Beherrscher erzeugt zwei Schatz-Spielsteine. (Sie sind Artefakte mit „, opfere diesen Spielstein: Erzeuge ein Mana einer beliebigen Farbe.")
„Ich denke, du wirst meine Bedingungen annehmbar finden, wenn du weißt, was gut für dich ist."

[maiden widget]

[[Always Own Your Criminal Record]]

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “Always Own Your Criminal Recor…”

[maiden widget]

@wide quiver card doesn’t exist 😦

[compact vine]

I’m even more confused than before 😭

[fervent burrow]

[[An offer you cant refuse]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/160/an-offer-you-cant-refuse

An Offer You Can't Refuse <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target noncreature spell. Its controller creates two Treasure tokens. (They're artifacts with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
"I think you'll find my terms quite agreeable, if you know what's good for you."

[maiden widget]

I hope yall picked this up already

[[$ophidian eye]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/70/ophidian-eye

Prices for Ophidian Eye

The List

$19.12

Time Spiral

$17.79 • €7.23 • 0.03 TIX

[compact vine]

Yeah I fully thought I was screwed from ever getting an Ophidian Eye… then I found one in my bulk XD

[compact vine]

THANK you XD

[maiden widget]

It’s X4 in value in like a month

[compact vine]

Yeah it’s insanity

[daring oriole]

thoughts on propaganda/ghostly prison, wondering if it's worth keeping bothr rn

[maiden widget]

They are goated most of the time

[wraith silo]

i play both but have also considered added whats it called [[norn's annex]] ? i think

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/829/norns-annex

Norn's Annex <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manawp:292901508826005515><:manawp:292901508826005515>

Artifact
( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Creatures can't attack you or planeswalkers you control unless their controller pays for each of those creatures.

[granite sky]

i think [[teferi ageless insight]] is being slept on

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/119/teferis-ageless-insight

Teferi's Ageless Insight <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Enchantment
If you would draw a card except the first one you draw in each of your draw steps, draw two cards instead.
"Fine, you know more than me. But do you have to be such a show-off about it?" —Chandra Nalaar, to Teferi

[weak silo]

For me it feels win more in this deck

[void grove]

You do eventually need win more cards

I also feel like it's good as a recovery card

[lusty igloo]

had, dropped. also had something archive and dropped that too. a 3 mana tutor -> curiosity >>> teferi ageless insight

[lusty igloo]

i have all 3

[elder lagoon]

[[alhammeret’s archive]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/233/alhammarrets-archive

Alhammarret's Archive <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Legendary Artifact
If you would gain life, you gain twice that much life instead.
If you would draw a card except the first one you draw in each of your draw steps, draw two cards instead.
It contains the totality of Alhammarret's notes, theories, and ponderings.

[lusty igloo]

imo the only winmore i'd run is solitary confinement b/c of how backbreaking it is when you have an engine

[granite sky]

Yes but the chance of removal is too high imo and I need other options

[[lunar convocation]] [[greed]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/223/lunar-convocation

Lunar Convocation <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your end step, if you gained life this turn, each opponent loses 1 life.
At the beginning of your end step, if you gained and lost life this turn, create a 1/1 black Bat creature token with flying.
, Pay 2 life: Draw a card.

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/274/greed

Greed <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
, Pay 2 life: Draw a card.
What is a sliver of one's soul compared to unimaginable wealth?

[granite sky]

Double the output of these types of cards is really nice

[marsh solar]

This is fire, nice find!

#1380962630499303434 message

[maiden widget]

Me when I play grand aubiter

[robust rapids]

Has [[Spellskite]] been perfroming well for anyone?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/873/spellskite

Spellskite <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact Creature — Phyrexian Horror
: Change a target of target spell or ability to this creature. ( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
"Let's show Vorinclex that progress doesn't always need teeth or claws." —Malcator, Executor of Synthesis
0/4

[fervent burrow]

Spellskite always performs well. One free targeted removal safety

[lusty igloo]

yes

steals opposing yshtola auras :3

(but in general you need to guard vs people taking out yshtola/curiosity holder. spellskite can also proteccs things like tithe and solitary)

[robust rapids]

Is double triggering it worth it for the card draw?

[lusty igloo]

desparate times....

normally no

[robust rapids]

so great for protection but double pinging is a 'in case of emegency' type thing

[lusty igloo]

ya

[robust rapids]

cool ty

[daring oriole]

[[Clever concealment]] or [[Restoration Magic]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/236/clever-concealment

Clever Concealment <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
Any number of target nonland permanents you control phase out. (Treat them and anything attached to them as though they don't exist until your next turn.)

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/30/restoration-magic

Restoration Magic <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Tiered (Choose one additional cost.)
• Cure — — Target permanent gains hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.
• Cura — — Target permanent gains hexproof and indestructible until end of turn. You gain 3 life.
• Curaga — — Permanents you control gain hexproof and indestructible until end of turn. You gain 6 life.

[maiden widget]

Wait would this card be good

[[emergency eject]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/14/emergency-eject

Emergency Eject <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target nonland permanent. Its controller creates a Lander token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.")
"This is your captain speaking. Our eternity drive has ruptured. Light be with you all."

[fervent burrow]

I mean its [[stroke of midnight]] but replace 1/1 with lander. Up to you on which is better

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/132/stroke-of-midnight

Stroke of Midnight <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target nonland permanent. Its controller creates a 1/1 white Human creature token.
The assembled partygoers fell silent and stared. As the helmet came to a clattering stop, the only sound was Ash's distant footsteps.

[fervent burrow]

Phasing protects against exile too so if thats something you're afraid... 1 mana protect from destroy is hard to beat. Idk how many creatures you have tho

[compact vine]

I would much rather give my opponent a 1/1 than a land 😛

[lusty igloo]

restoration magic protects against exile

except farewell

it's better

[lusty igloo]

yeah and it synergizes with tragic arrogance and unstable hyperglyph. you can pick the useless 1/1 shitter for them to keep

[granite sky]

[[make an example]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/37/make-an-example

Make an Example <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Each opponent separates the creatures they control into two piles. For each opponent, you choose one of their piles. Each opponent sacrifices the creatures in their chosen pile. (Piles can be empty.)
As the Adversary's influence grew, the conflicts between families escalated.

[granite sky]

4 mana to blow up at least 3 creatures of my choice is a really good deal

[[sigil of sleep]] so mean

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ddi/25/sigil-of-sleep

Sigil of Sleep <:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Whenever enchanted creature deals damage to a player, return target creature that player controls to its owner's hand.
Arrows are only one way to remove an enemy.

[lusty igloo]

it's weaker than curiosity but the opponents feel worse by it

interesting that when yshtola draws like dozens of cards with curiosity everoyne's like thisisfine

even tho its more game ending than sigil is just keeping the board clear

[maiden widget]

This card is just a funny board wipe

If you think about it

😂

One time I put it on Papalymo and play like 3 mana rocks

Practically a boardwipe

[granite sky]

[[soul barrier]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/5ed/125/soul-barrier

Soul Barrier <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent casts a creature spell, this enchantment deals 2 damage to that player unless they pay .
"The Soul selects her own Society— Then—shuts the Door—" —Emily Dickinson, "The Soul selects her own Society"

[maiden widget]

Too restrictive I think

I rather play this obscure spell [[rystic study]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/169/rhystic-study

Rhystic Study <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent casts a spell, you may draw a card unless that player pays .
Friends teach what you want to know. Enemies teach what you need to know.

[maiden widget]

/jk

[granite sky]

Creatures are most deck win cons

[lusty igloo]

[[vile consumption]] probably better?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/inv/285/vile-consumption

Vile Consumption <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
All creatures have "At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this creature unless you pay 1 life."
The plague moved faster than an army and was far more deadly.

[granite sky]

No card draw

[lusty igloo]

what soul barrier doesnt either

[granite sky]

maybe it could

Someday

Need to believe

[lusty igloo]

???

[maiden widget]

I rather play that one 5 mana black spell I already forgot the name off

That’s not poluted bond

[lusty igloo]

painful quandary?

i try to avoid reverse-pillowfort

but it's strong

are you guys running [[black mage's rod]] ?? turns every creature into papalymo jr. and comes in with a creature automatically?

just as an alternative curiosity holder

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/90/black-mages-rod

Black Mage's Rod <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Artifact — Equipment
Job select (When this Equipment enters, create a 1/1 colorless Hero creature token, then attach this to it.)
Equipped creature gets +1/+0, has "Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature deals 1 damage to each opponent," and is a Wizard in addition to its other types.
Equip

[marsh solar]

I think this might be more effective than Norn's annex for pillowfort... I forgot all about [[norn's decree]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/onc/9/norns-decree

Norn's Decree <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever one or more creatures an opponent controls deal combat damage to you, that opponent gets a poison counter.
Whenever a player attacks, if one or more players being attacked are poisoned, the attacking player draws a card.

[daring oriole]

You hated this, so much you only focused on killing meeee

[lusty igloo]

LMFAO BRO IM SORRY

[maiden widget]

[[generous gift]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/128/generous-gift

Generous Gift <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target permanent. Its controller creates a 3/3 green Elephant creature token.
The best presents are impossible to regift.

[daring oriole]

AM GLAD YOU GOT BLASTED

[lusty igloo]

I STG I WOULDVE DIED if I targeted someone else then went after you man

i took 25 dmg from your painful quandary. imagine if i spent that 25 hp killing someone else, AND THEN had to start killing you with 1 card in my hand. it would be over for me 😭

[lusty igloo]

LMFAOOOO

[maiden widget]

[[stroke of mid]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/132/stroke-of-midnight

Stroke of Midnight <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target nonland permanent. Its controller creates a 1/1 white Human creature token.
The assembled partygoers fell silent and stared. As the helmet came to a clattering stop, the only sound was Ash's distant footsteps.

[daring oriole]

you already had your engine going, you didn't need to win more LOL

[lusty igloo]

I swung at fellow Y'shtola player @daring oriole like five rounds in a row for his painful quandary

[maiden widget]

Don’t lose to enchantment again

[lusty igloo]

i make a billion mana but i cant play a billion spells if painful quandary is up

[maiden widget]

Also I learned that the cat combo actually just better that we thought @lusty igloo

[lusty igloo]

you're still on that?

[maiden widget]

Bc the cat can just blinked the tapped mana rock

[lusty igloo]

yeah ofc

[maiden widget]

Eh why not

[lusty igloo]

wait wdym

bruh that was always part of the combo

[maiden widget]

Sometime the cat is just good

When yshtola got bad enchanted on

[lusty igloo]

it's an absolute meance in ETB decks like gamechanger level. but in our deck it just ok

kills good enchants too tho

[maiden widget]

Well you want to sit on a 1/1 frog ?

I don’t

[crisp mesa]

Hey y'all. Did a basic run without looking at anything too heavily, and wanted to check how good or bad it is.

https://moxfield.com/decks/fkvy1kjLb0KhxQVK6GZDCQ

[maiden widget]

40 lands

First time I see it outside of land focus deck

[crisp mesa]

My default is 38-40.

May just be me.

[maiden widget]

I usually do 35 + 2 flipping lands or 37-38

[crisp mesa]

I could probably cut it down to 38 considering the peak curve is 3.

[maiden widget]

lol I never run deck with 40 lands before

And I never play a green deck before

[crisp mesa]

40 is just a comfortable number. I find my starting hands with only 2 lands with just 35.

[maiden widget]

36-38 is my comfy number

[crisp mesa]

Am I missing any vital piece, or is it just the typical Y'shtola deck?

[maiden widget]

It look like you have everything we have talked before

But you can look at my deck you might find something interesting to put in

[soft peak]

[[!unexplained absence]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/17/unexplained-absence

Unexplained Absence

[soft peak]

another option for that

will hit less creatures but can hit all nonland permanents, exiles, and is instant speed

[robust rapids]

Has infect been working for you guys? I see it in a lot of lists but it feels like a giant kick me sign on ysh and needing 5 spells after casting it, on top of there only being like 2-3 cards that work to give it to her seems like setting up for failure

[maiden widget]

Well yeah it’s not a kick me sign it’s a “shoot me in the head” sign

You give them a count down XD

[maiden widget]

The amount of people actually didn’t know how curiosity interacts with yshtola is fascinating

[compact vine]

I hate infect, I’m not lowering myself to that 😛

[wide quiver]

^^

I prefer my enemies to die a slower more painful death

[compact vine]

I’d rather lose to life gain decks than win by infect

100% of the time