Y'shtola Communal Brewing

[wide quiver]

Oh jesus, [[$perch protection]] shot up in price. Bird decks maybe?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/blc/11/perch-protection

Prices for Perch Protection

Bloomburrow Commander

$8.22 • €2.72 • 2.23 TIX

Bloomburrow Commander

$2.93 • €3.70 • 2.16 TIX

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Isn’t it just worse teferi protection ?

[wide quiver]

You could say that about every protection spell

Gifting an extra turn to another player is really helpful though

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The ultimate table politic

Yall yshtola deck eating good

Even thou it wont trigger her

[wide quiver]

Anyone still running [[murderous rider]]?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/258/murderous-rider-swift-end

Murderous Rider <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Zombie Knight
Lifelink
When this creature dies, put it on the bottom of its owner's library.
2/3

Swift End
Instant — Adventure
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. You lose 2 life. (Then exile this card. You may cast the creature later from exile.)

[wide quiver]

I feel like it having a body attached can be pretty handy

Only creature/planeswalker removal though

[maiden widget]

No lol

Although [[overkill]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/109/overkill

Overkill <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Target creature gets -0/-9999 until end of turn.
"Hey why don't ya try out that sword I gave you!" —Wakka

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Still in the deck for the meme

I need to take it out thou

[wide quiver]

Overkill seems alright.

At least is one of two instants from FF I'd consider

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Which is the other one ?

[wide quiver]

[[espers to magicite]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/43/espers-to-magicite

Espers to Magicite <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Exile each opponent's graveyard. When you do, choose up to one target creature card exiled this way. Create a token that's a copy of that card, except it's an artifact and it loses all other card types.
"Come to me, my magicite pretty... come, and help me build the Magitek Empire of Kefka!"

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Of lol

I have it in my kuja deck

[wide quiver]

GY hate with a [[machine god's effigy]] effect seems pretty good

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/brc/16/machine-gods-effigy

Machine God's Effigy <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
You may have this artifact enter as a copy of any creature on the battlefield, except it's an artifact and it has ": Add ." (It's not a creature.)
: Add .
Gix ensured his most loyal followers were the first to taste Phyrexian perfection.

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I love stealing esper sentinel

Anyone run [[not dead after all]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/woe/101/not-dead-after-all

Not Dead After All <:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Until end of turn, target creature you control gains "When this creature dies, return it to the battlefield tapped under its owner's control, then create a Wicked Role token attached to it." (Enchanted creature gets +1/+1. When this token is put into a graveyard, each opponent loses 1 life.)

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Or [[fake your own dead]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/174/fake-your-own-death

Fake Your Own Death <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Until end of turn, target creature gets +2/+0 and gains "When this creature dies, return it to the battlefield tapped under its owner's control and you create a Treasure token." (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")

[wraith silo]

thoughts on [[consecrated sphinx]] as just a late game draw engine for the deck?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/43/consecrated-sphinx

Consecrated Sphinx <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Sphinx
Flying
Whenever an opponent draws a card, you may draw two cards.
A curse is just another name for an unwanted blessing.
4/6

[wraith silo]

that still works as a flying body to block with

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I meant it’s good but I only have 3 slot for GC so I have to pick and choose

[wraith silo]

keep forgetting its a gamechanger lol

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But I feel like yshtola with curiosity efffects is enough draw most of the time

[wraith silo]

do you often enchant your own things with curiosity or enchant others?

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Enchant yshtola

[wraith silo]

with curiosity?

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Yeah

[wraith silo]

i generally throw it onto* a flier

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Well you draw 3 everytime you cast 3 cmc or more spell

[wraith silo]

i think the problem is every time i read curiosity it reads to me combat dmg

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No any damage

[wraith silo]

is the 3rd card drawn from ophidian eye?

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Wdym ?

[wraith silo]

^

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If you have curiosity alone you draw 3

[wraith silo]

draw 1 from effect of deal 4 dmg draw 1 from curiosity wheres 3rd from

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If you have curiosity and eye you draw 6

It count for each opponent

[wraith silo]

ah yeah im following now. my brain still doesnt read mtg cards well enough. in my mind when i see deal dmg to an opponent it sees all 3 opponents take dmg at same time then draw 1 card total.
had same issue with tifa martial artist

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So if you have all 4 curiosity effect on yshtola you can draw 12 cards per 3 cmc spell

[wraith silo]

so ik you commented on needing more instants in my deck from opinions earlier cuz i am at 10 instants

what creatures would u cut?

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I can take a look at your list

Prolly venat, thancred, and blue yshtola

Also cut coveted jewel

[wraith silo]

ironically ive only seen coveted jewel twice and played it both times. nobody ever attacked me one of the times i got it and i won rofl

but ye agree it should be cut

[maiden widget]

I think [[flawless maneuver]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/24/flawless-maneuver

Flawless Maneuver <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
If you control a commander, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Creatures you control gain indestructible until end of turn.
"Captain, your units are the tip of our spear. There is zero room for failure." —Jirina Kudro

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Is just better than thancred

[wraith silo]

does have the caveat of only working till end of turn where thancred is just while on field and any instant protects thancred as well.

[maiden widget]

I mean he’s too expensive and he’s better in other deck honestly

[wraith silo]

i mean if we want to say is too expensive thats [[avacyn, angel of hope]] lol

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/14/avacyn-angel-of-hope

Avacyn, Angel of Hope <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Angel
Flying, vigilance, indestructible
Other permanents you control have indestructible.
A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.
8/8

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Lmao

The only expensive thing I run in my deck is

[[counterpoint]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/41/counterpoint

Counterpoint <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Counter target spell. You may cast a creature, instant, sorcery, or planeswalker spell from your graveyard with mana value less than or equal to that spell's mana value without paying its mana cost.
"Nice theory, but I'm going to have to poke some holes in it."

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[[farewell]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/64/farewell

Farewell <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Choose one or more —
• Exile all artifacts.
• Exile all creatures.
• Exile all enchantments.
• Exile all graveyards.

[wraith silo]

how many turns do games in your pods last?

cuz at my lgs its not uncommon to go 8+ if not higher

[maiden widget]

Depend

On what other play

I played 3 hours game before with this deck

[wraith silo]

so far ive only played yshtola cuz got into commander when ff came out and hadnt played mtg in 7 years be4 that. 2-2 1/2 hours seems to be common time window for games

[maiden widget]

I played a game where I dropped

Enough comtrol pieces down

Everyone just scoop

[wraith silo]

well i dont even have all the parts for the moxfield version of the deck yet so shrug

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I mean your deck seem every oppressive with all the mean creatures lol

[wraith silo]

creature wise im missing
esper sentinel
high fae trickster
jin-gitaxias
kambal, consul of allocation
talion, the kindly lord
atm

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Lol I don’t even run esper sentinel atm

But I run mystic remora bc I’m that boring blue player

[wide quiver]

This card is funny

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holding 5 mana just to play this is funny

[wide quiver]

Holding 5 isn't too unlikely

At least not in my deck

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late game i hold at least 7

[wide quiver]

Are you running inkshield?

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👀 temottung lately

tempting*

[wide quiver]

If you'll be holding up all that mana anyways!

[green vigil]

My last game i managed to have

Mystic Remora
Smothering tithe
Rhystic study
Wandering Archaic
Esper sentinel

My poor opponents 😦

I felt like the government

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https://moxfield.com/decks/zUfRD-UJp0q4HZoLGGcaiA ok this will be the deck i will run for a while til i can get a deal on fierce guardianship haha

[wide quiver]

I did consider [[minion's return]], but no to these two.

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/thb/104/minions-return

Minion's Return <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment — Aura
Flash
Enchant creature
When enchanted creature dies, return that card to the battlefield under your control.
As a mortal, Phenax was the first to escape the Underworld. As a god, he brings his pawns along the same dark path.

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For this I play [[gift of immortality]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ths/14/gift-of-immortality

Gift of Immortality <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
When enchanted creature dies, return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control. Return this card to the battlefield attached to that creature at the beginning of the next end step.

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[[stormscaoe familiar]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tsb/32/stormscape-familiar

Stormscape Familiar <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Bird
Flying
White spells and black spells you cast cost less to cast.
Each Stormscape apprentice must hand-raise and train an owl before attaining the rank of master.
1/1

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Why I only learn about this card just now

[compact vine]

[[Apple of eden]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/acr/70/apple-of-eden-isu-relic

Apple of Eden, Isu Relic <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Legendary Artifact
, Pay 4 life, Sacrifice Apple of Eden: Look at target opponent's hand and exile those cards face down. You may play those cards this turn, and mana of any type can be spent to cast them. Until end of turn, whenever you play a land or cast a spell this way, its owner draws a card. At the beginning of the next end step, return the exiled cards to their owner's hand. Activate only as a sorcery.

[compact vine]

Thoughts on this as a funny tech card? Hits the cost, and then also drains us for 4, so it fulfills both targets

Obviously you’d play it and then activate it next turn so you have mana to use, but still

[wide quiver]

It might be cool if we were lacking card draw, but we aren't really

[green vigil]

Yeah esper has one of the best continous card draw engines you can have

[wide quiver]

[[weeping angel]] is interesting

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/168/weeping-angel

Weeping Angel <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Artifact Creature — Alien Angel
Flash
First strike, vigilance
Whenever an opponent casts a creature spell, this creature isn't a creature until end of turn.
If this creature would deal combat damage to a creature, prevent that damage and that creature's owner shuffles it into their library.
2/2

[wide quiver]

[[dingus egg]] is interesting depending on your meta

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/297/dingus-egg

Dingus Egg <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
Whenever a land is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, this artifact deals 2 damage to that land's controller.
Legend has it that the world was hatched from a dingus egg.

[void grove]

Can someone help with cuts? Trying to be solidly B3, with an enchantress/pillowfortish plan

Also just... esper control!

[wide quiver]

I don't love mortify

[void grove]

...I forgot to link the list

[wide quiver]

I grabbed it from the pin

[void grove]

oh, ty

https://moxfield.com/decks/7x0hel_k70eFFCOB7PORKg for reference

[wide quiver]

Assuming it's this one. Yeah it is

[void grove]

PORKg

[wide quiver]

I generally don't love removal that only target one type tbh

[void grove]

Yeah I think I might have too much single target removal

[wide quiver]

And that are also single target, yeah

[void grove]

I also feel my strategy is too focused around Y'shtola and if she gets removed too much I don't have a backup

[wide quiver]

It is, but that's also how I've built her. You just can't play her without protection backed up lol

I'd honestly cut some 3mv mana rocks

[void grove]

I do have 4 of them

relic of legends is great for squeezing out an extra mana from y'shtola since she has vigilance

[wide quiver]

chromatic seems a little overkill in 3c and less tbh

I like relic of legends, yeah.

[void grove]

Though I only have 4 legendary creatures in the deck lmao

[wide quiver]

Yeahhhh

It's a little iffy

[void grove]

I really love [[gift of immortality]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ths/14/gift-of-immortality

Gift of Immortality <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
When enchanted creature dies, return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control. Return this card to the battlefield attached to that creature at the beginning of the next end step.

[wide quiver]

Unexplained absence is neat. I should grab that.

Yeah, gift is cool too

[void grove]

It really is neat

3-for-1, exiles, hits nonland permanents

I run it in every deck with white

[wide quiver]

I don't really love austere command tbh

[void grove]

whoa wtf why is unexplained absence so cheap

it used to be a lot more

lemme quickly buy 10

[wide quiver]

lol

[void grove]

Fuck it I'll buy 35

fucking hell theyre cheap

I guess they bought a lot of precons and selling for parts

[wide quiver]

I have to get back to work, but I'll check it out again later.

Oh before I go, [[bloodthirsty blade]] is also cool for the goad subtheme

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/225/bloodthirsty-blade

Bloodthirsty Blade <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +2/+0 and is goaded. (It attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
: Attach this Equipment to target creature an opponent controls. Activate only as a sorcery.
The weapon wields the hand that holds it.

[void grove]

2cmc

[wide quiver]

Yeah

[void grove]

I saw it but I was like

I love that 3

[wide quiver]

Surprised you aren't running [[promise of loyalty]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/79/promise-of-loyalty

Promise of Loyalty <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player puts a vow counter on a creature they control and sacrifices the rest. Each of those creatures can't attack you or planeswalkers you control for as long as it has a vow counter on it.
"It's us against the world. Forever."

[void grove]

Me too, thats one of my favourite keep-one-thing-alive board wipes

[wide quiver]

Winds of rath is col here too

And I'd consider [[vanishing]] over robe of stars for the enchantment synergies. (And also price, which doesn't matter if you already have it)

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/vis/48/vanishing

Vanishing <:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
: Enchanted creature phases out. (While it's phased out, it's treated as though it doesn't exist. It phases in before its controller untaps during their next untap step.)
"Careless, like a child with fire, so was I with time." —Teferi

[void grove]

I dont believe in budgeting my magic decks

but also yeah that looks cool

[wide quiver]

That's fair

[void grove]

Might be good for vivi tbh

[wide quiver]

I'm running it in my voltron deck, and it's come in clutch

[void grove]

Oh, I am running it

[wide quiver]

Oh you are! I'm just blind

[void grove]

I usually put board wipes separately but I got lazy

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[[slash of ranks]]

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “slash of ranks”

[maiden widget]

[[slash the ranks]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/47/slash-the-ranks

Slash the Ranks <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures and planeswalkers except for commanders.
The generals each surveyed their devastated forces. Then, slowly, they turned to each other and raised their swords.

[maiden widget]

I found this card in bulk

Interesting thou

[wide quiver]

5 mana is a lot for that

And just seems like a bad [[promise of loyalty]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/79/promise-of-loyalty

Promise of Loyalty <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player puts a vow counter on a creature they control and sacrifices the rest. Each of those creatures can't attack you or planeswalkers you control for as long as it has a vow counter on it.
"It's us against the world. Forever."

[maiden widget]

I have that too

How about [[stroke of midnight]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/132/stroke-of-midnight

Stroke of Midnight <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target nonland permanent. Its controller creates a 1/1 white Human creature token.
The assembled partygoers fell silent and stared. As the helmet came to a clattering stop, the only sound was Ash's distant footsteps.

[wide quiver]

I like it

It's basically [[generous gift]] but a 1/1 instead

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/128/generous-gift

Generous Gift <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target permanent. Its controller creates a 3/3 green Elephant creature token.
The best presents are impossible to regift.

[wide quiver]

But doesn't hit lands

[maiden widget]

Yeah land hit is mean

[wide quiver]

There are so many good lands, it's necessary tbh

But it doesn't have to be generous gift, it can be [[demolition field]] or something

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/687/demolition-field

Demolition Field

Land
: Add .
, , Sacrifice this land: Destroy target nonbasic land an opponent controls. That land's controller may search their library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle. You may search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.

[maiden widget]

I cut that lol

[wide quiver]

There are too many good lands to not run land hate in EVERY deck

Same with GY hate

[maiden widget]

Lol I think my list is land hate free

[compact vine]

So it turns out I HAVE an Ophidian Eye XD

[wide quiver]

Woo!

[compact vine]

Has this card been brought up?

[fervent burrow]

It has, in a debate between that and [[Hermes overseer]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/141/hermes-overseer-of-elpis

Hermes, Overseer of Elpis <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create a 1/1 blue Bird creature token with flying and vigilance.
Whenever you attack with one or more Birds, scry 2.
"For us, there may be no higher purpose than to live for our world, but what of the other living beings out there?"
2/4

[wide quiver]

I think I like hermes more

[compact vine]

Hermes is cheaper for sure

Typhoon is harder to take out though

[wide quiver]

6 mana is sooo much

You can play Hermes in the early-ish game

[compact vine]

VERY true

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[wide quiver]

Only 99 slots

And a bitch ain't one

[compact vine]

Okay that got me hahaha

[pallid ocean]

Typhoon is very fun tho

[pallid ocean]

You know, I never realized generous gift could hit lands

Has never really come up

[fervent burrow]

That's why its slightly better than [[midnight stroke]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/132/stroke-of-midnight

Stroke of Midnight <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target nonland permanent. Its controller creates a 1/1 white Human creature token.
The assembled partygoers fell silent and stared. As the helmet came to a clattering stop, the only sound was Ash's distant footsteps.

[compact vine]

This could be decent

[fervent burrow]

I just dont think I care enough about 3 or 4 creatures getting any amount of +1/+1 on them in my deck tbh

[wide quiver]

Same

[pallid ocean]

Only good in legend matters decks and yshtola doesn't really care

[wide quiver]

Legend matters and lifegain

[maiden widget]

Here plot her in [[hope estheim]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/226/hope-estheim

Hope Estheim <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Lifelink
At the beginning of your end step, each opponent mills X cards, where X is the amount of life you gained this turn.
"If we have the power to destroy Cocoon, then we have the power to save it."
2/2

[compact vine]

Ew mill

[maiden widget]

Mill deck best deck

[compact vine]

You always like the annoying tactics though 😛

[maiden widget]

this is why my fav color if blue

[maiden widget]

Would [[cylonic rift]] overload trigger yshtola ?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/40/cyclonic-rift

Cyclonic Rift <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return target nonland permanent you don't control to its owner's hand.
Overload (You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")
The Izzet specialize in unnatural disaster.

[wide quiver]

Nope

[compact vine]

Still a damn good card to run

[wide quiver]

It's basically whatever in the mana corner

[compact vine]

And X counts as 0

[wide quiver]

No, X counts as whatever you pay for it

[compact vine]

Oh shit really? I was told the opposite

[green vigil]

Nope x counts as much as you put into it

[wide quiver]

Yep! So something like [[march of the swirling mists]] can be 3+

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/61/march-of-swirling-mist

March of Swirling Mist <:manax:292901509082120202><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
As an additional cost to cast this spell, you may exile any number of blue cards from your hand. This spell costs less to cast for each card exiled this way.
Up to X target creatures phase out. (While they're phased out, they're treated as though they don't exist. Each one phases in before its controller untaps during their next untap step.)

[green vigil]

Which is why when you copy x spells it copies how much you pay

My storm , storms x spells 👀

[compact vine]

Dayum

[green vigil]

Cause she's a X man

Anyways lol

[wide quiver]

Booo

[maiden widget]

So my table knows I picked up a Cy Rift

So I alway hold 7 mana in my name now

[wide quiver]

I don't buy staples

[compact vine]

I use paperclips instead

[wide quiver]

Booo

[maiden widget]

Me either

But [[hope’s aero magic]] was cheap

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1869/cyclonic-rift

Cyclonic Rift <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return target nonland permanent you don't control to its owner's hand.
Overload (You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")
"I'll try to watch out for you, too."

[wide quiver]

Seems like you bought it

[maiden widget]

It was $25 when I bought it

[wide quiver]

The point still stands

[maiden widget]

Lol

I’m praying for fierce guardianship SLD

[wide quiver]

There was one

[[fierce guardianship|SLD]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1823/fierce-guardianship

Fierce Guardianship <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
If you control a commander, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Counter target noncreature spell.

[wide quiver]

The extra life one

[maiden widget]

Lol 😆 until next time

Lol I forgot that SLD bc it was 3 garbage and one banger

[wide quiver]

The other cards are good too fwiw

mana geyser, counterspell, etc

Oh nvm, it was mana geyser, lightning bolt, and delayed blast fireball

All 3 are pretty good

[maiden widget]

Lightning bolt like in every other SLd doesn’t it

[compact vine]

Still good in basically every red deck

[maiden widget]

I mean ofc

[maiden widget]

[[obscura chaảm]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/208/obscura-charm

Obscura Charm <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Choose one —
• Return target multicolored permanent card with mana value 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
• Counter target instant or sorcery spell.
• Destroy target creature or planeswalker with mana value 3 or less.

[maiden widget]

Is this card considered ?

[compact vine]

Seems fine

[soft peak]

I prefer the other 2 charms

Esper charm and dromars charm

Still, i removed dromar and considering the other, as they cant really be affected by cost reduction if youre running any

[compact vine]

[[esper charm]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c18/179/esper-charm

Esper Charm <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Choose one —
• Destroy target enchantment.
• Draw two cards.
• Target player discards two cards.

[pallid ocean]

Esper charm feels very meh

Specifically 3 colors for draw 2 most of the time

[soft peak]

yeah

the removal flexibility has been nice sometimes

but not enough

[wide quiver]

It being 3 color is rough. I've been thinking of removing [[void rend]] for that reason

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/230/void-rend

Void Rend <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
This spell can't be countered.
Destroy target nonland permanent.
Bits of the missing agent were discovered in various alleys across all three boroughs.

[desert sequoia]

I had a funny idea for a version of this deck where you play Standard Azorius Omniscience at home. Because she's in Esper, you can play cards like Entomb, Gravebreaker Lamia and Oriq Lore Mage and a few millers, then cheat or hardcast Brilliant Restoration or similar to return all your artifacts and enchantments, including Omniscience.

[wide quiver]

Sounds fun

[pallid ocean]

Are there enough cards to search out omniscience?

For edh anw since 60 card formats are much more condensed

[desert sequoia]

Yeah, it's not hard to dump it.

You wanna stock up your grave with artifacts and enchantments anyway

because you wanna drop [[Brilliant Restoration]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/7/brilliant-restoration

Brilliant Restoration <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Return all artifact and enchantment cards from your graveyard to the battlefield.
"We have done our best to heal this land together, but now I must entrust the future to my sister. She will carry our dreams onward into the sunrise." —Michiko Konda's journal

[desert sequoia]

You do lose to Bojuka Bog but it's funny.

[pallid ocean]

Tbf I'm currently pretty clueless on standard rn other than the bs that was pre banwave

Always funny to me omniscience is/was a standard deck

[desert sequoia]

Yeah, Omni was the "second best" deck behind Monstrous Rage

I don't play standard atm but a friend keeps me in the loop

[pallid ocean]

Standard was funny for a hot minute, it was basically old modern and new modern is like old standard

Yshtola is fun af for basically being an efficient engine for any esper archetypes

[desert sequoia]

yeah, she has the upside of making Omni an actual wincon unlike some commanders that will just stall out when casting big spells.

[void grove]

Don't forget [[dance of the manse]] and [[replenish]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/nec/136/dance-of-the-manse

Dance of the Manse <:manax:292901509082120202><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Return up to X target artifact and/or non-Aura enchantment cards each with mana value X or less from your graveyard to the battlefield. If X is 6 or more, those permanents are 4/4 creatures in addition to their other types.

https://scryfall.com/card/uds/15/replenish

Replenish <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Return all enchantment cards from your graveyard to the battlefield. (Auras with nothing to enchant remain in your graveyard.)
Treasures, trinkets, trash—the relics of the past are brought forth again.

[desert sequoia]

I think Manse is probably a little awkward. Replenish is a good one tho.

[fervent burrow]

Just needs a few $$$

[desert sequoia]

Or not, if you aren't trying to participate in an official event.

[maiden widget]

[[teferi, hero of]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dom/207/teferi-hero-of-dominaria

Teferi, Hero of Dominaria <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Teferi
+1: Draw a card. At the beginning of the next end step, untap up to two lands.
−3: Put target nonland permanent into its owner's library third from the top.
−8: You get an emblem with "Whenever you draw a card, exile target permanent an opponent controls."
Loyalty: 4

[maiden widget]

I’m tempted to add it

[compact vine]

5 mana for a draw one untap two lands that’ll never survive to the next turn seems bad

[green vigil]

I dont buy staples anymore. Honestly ive had much more fun of, if I pull it, then I can upgrade type of mind set. Unless the cards are cheap. Like I have over 50 decks and a solid 20 of them are like 100-300 dollars. They won't get upgrades unless I pull them or secret lair happens to have a set of cards well worth it. Like cyclonic rift one I got 4 of them 😅

So 4 decks got heroic intervention , cyclonic rift and silence.

[lusty igloo]

[[heroic intervention]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/295/heroic-intervention

Heroic Intervention <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Permanents you control gain hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.
"Wherever the strong would harm the weak, I will be there." —Ajani Goldmane

[maiden widget]

I need this card for my cloud deck

If someone cast [[amphibian downpour]] on yshtola and I don’t have a good counter spell I’ll just gonna scope

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/51/amphibian-downpour

Amphibian Downpour <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Flash
Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies. Copies become tokens.)
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature loses all abilities and is a blue Frog creature with base power and toughness 1/1.

[maiden widget]

This card is such a good counter for on this deck

[fervent burrow]

I mean there's a lot of things that do that

[maiden widget]

True lol

I just hate the art honestly

[lusty igloo]

bruh you can just kill your yshtola or board wipe her

or witch enchanter or any permanent destroy

[maiden widget]

Spending spot removal on it is rough

But board wipe

Prolly

[lusty igloo]

do you not have permanent removal spells?

gotta have at least one or two

sometimes the biggest threats arent creatures

[maiden widget]

Lol i don’t remember honestly

[[void rend]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/230/void-rend

Void Rend <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
This spell can't be countered.
Destroy target nonland permanent.
Bits of the missing agent were discovered in various alleys across all three boroughs.

[maiden widget]

There

[soft peak]

Perfect scenario for [[release to the wind]] actually

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/rix/46/release-to-the-wind

Release to the Wind <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Exile target nonland permanent. For as long as that card remains exiled, its owner may cast it without paying its mana cost.
"Here and gone like a fleeting breeze."

[soft peak]

[lusty igloo]

i think the two white ones are ok

they get cheaper from baral

[[stroke of midnight]] etc

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/132/stroke-of-midnight

Stroke of Midnight <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target nonland permanent. Its controller creates a 1/1 white Human creature token.
The assembled partygoers fell silent and stared. As the helmet came to a clattering stop, the only sound was Ash's distant footsteps.

[maiden widget]

I have a “fancy” stroke of midnight

[[memories of nibelheim]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fca/26/stroke-of-midnight

Stroke of Midnight <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target nonland permanent. Its controller creates a 1/1 white Human creature token.

[fervent burrow]

Of all the bonus sheet from FF I opened like 4 copies of that, warrior of light, and Adeline Cathar

[maiden widget]

I have 10 copy of [[luka stadium]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fca/63/strixhaven-stadium

Strixhaven Stadium <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
: Add . Put a point counter on this artifact.
Whenever a creature deals combat damage to you, remove a point counter from this artifact.
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to an opponent, put a point counter on this artifact. Then if it has ten or more point counters on it, remove them all and that player loses the game.

[maiden widget]

Have anyone have like a bad card in the deck that they refuse to cut because one reason or the others

Mine is [[gary, the snail]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1929/toxrill-the-corrosive

Toxrill, the Corrosive <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Slug Horror
At the beginning of each end step, put a slime counter on each creature you don't control.
Creatures you don't control get -1/-1 for each slime counter on them.
Whenever a creature you don't control with a slime counter on it dies, create a 1/1 black Slug creature token.
, Sacrifice a Slug: Draw a card.
7/7

[wide quiver]

Toxrill doesn't fit in here really, but it's still toxrill

[lusty igloo]

my smothering tithe made me 89 treasures in one cycle today wtf

won with a waterlogged teachings into inkshield on someone swinging for 100+

[green vigil]

Thats why you dont attack than what's necessary

Even with 63728282736 creatures in board. If they have 40 life , im almost always swinging 100 or less. Insurance anyways. Tha t way any aetherize and such cant effect it.

[desert sequoia]

I'm not gigabrained enough to make this work on my first try, but here's my first draft https://moxfield.com/decks/silPEyqbIEW6qvlOHxcZeQ

Needs more card draw power for sure. Ledger shredder and raffine help, but

😨 i forgot Rhystic Froggy

[maiden widget]

Yeah I know lmao

[compact vine]

https://youtu.be/8uTxNGs3er8?si=Xn40dHFgamQG1ph_ @maiden widget

Thought of you since our mill conversation XD

[soft peak]

why do people hate mill

seems very tame

[sleek sonnet]

“My strong card I could have drawn won’t be drawn now, how dare you”

From my experience self-mill is way stronger than trying to mill the table, even if mill has gotten a couple new toys recently

[soft peak]

most of the time they wouldnt have drawn it anyways if its 40 cards deep in their deck lol

[sleek sonnet]

Humans are emotional creatures, and kinda stupid

[soft peak]

I just

would rather have a mill deck at the table

than decks doubling up on one strategy

2+ burn decks in a game

is not fun for the other players :)

one person playing mill is surely more enjoyable

[maiden widget]

I feel like mill isn’t a good strat in commander anyway

[soft peak]

theres a few archetypes you actively help by milling so yeah...

[maiden widget]

And if you play against graveyard deck with mill you don’t win anyway lol

[royal igloo]

I love mill (jund player in 60 card formats)

Like sure you go right ahead and put my wincon in the place I want it for me

[maiden widget]

The reason why mill is not the top strategy in cedh lol

[wraith silo]

do you guys like [[the water crystal]] or [[sapphire medallion]] better?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/85/the-water-crystal

The Water Crystal <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Artifact
Blue spells you cast cost less to cast.
If an opponent would mill one or more cards, they mill that many cards plus four instead.
, : Each opponent mills cards equal to the number of cards in your hand.
"Crystal of water, may you regain your light." —Aria Benett

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/296/sapphire-medallion

Sapphire Medallion <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
Blue spells you cast cost less to cast.
It is the glimpse of a new horizon beyond the hills, the briny taste of salt spray off a ship's hull, and the whisper of pages turning in a new book. It is discovery.

[wraith silo]

medallion cheaper and gets main effect i want outa crystal but doesnt proc yshtola

[soft peak]

neither in yshtola personally, being esper

[wraith silo]

17 cards that either would reduce the cost of in my deck atm so nearly 1/5

[soft peak]

if youre set on it the 2cmc should be better

[wraith silo]

why do you dislike a mana cheating effect in esper

[soft peak]

Mana cheating effects are fine, mana cheating effects that only apply to a third of the cards in your deck are weak

[sleek sonnet]

Cause it helps 1/3 of esper colors

[soft peak]

id rather just run a mana rock

[wraith silo]

ah well i have both wind and darkness crystal in deck but i use them more for their other abilities then the mana cheat.

pod i play with has tons of graveyard decks so darkness crystal very good effect for my pod

[soft peak]

ya if you dont need water crystals secondary effect go the medallion

[maiden widget]

I mean give your opponent to mill more is weird

I’ll be the villain and play grand arbiter lol

[wraith silo]

ah bracket 2 so cant lawl

[soft peak]

i keep getting grand abolisher and arbiter mixed up

lmao

[wraith silo]

was like crap did he get demoted from gamechanger?

[soft peak]

nope I just confused myself xd

[wraith silo]

so you would rather run [[command sphere]] then [[sapphire medallion]]?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/244/commanders-sphere

Commander's Sphere <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
: Add one mana of any color in your commander's color identity.
Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.
It harmonizes with the essence of its master.

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/296/sapphire-medallion

Sapphire Medallion <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
Blue spells you cast cost less to cast.
It is the glimpse of a new horizon beyond the hills, the briny taste of salt spray off a ship's hull, and the whisper of pages turning in a new book. It is discovery.

[maiden widget]

I feel like a mortified in the right direction yshtola is not a B2 anyway

[soft peak]

probably sphere unless you have a LOT of blue

[soft peak]

reg burn it definitely can be

I tried my yshtola deck in some b3 games

its too slow by far

hangs just fine in b2

thats without a few of the big staples tho

like sheoldred

[wraith silo]

i assume apocalypse sheoldred

[maiden widget]

Honestly everyone says their deck is a 3 thou

[soft peak]

ye

[maiden widget]

My deck is fine in b3 table

My game changer is not the most oppressive one

[wraith silo]

miscounted above i have 19 blue spells with colorless pips

[maiden widget]

Beside mister grand aubiter

[soft peak]

this mine, it's strong b2 but it's b2
https://moxfield.com/decks/tgy2NQqgPEqnT2rpdgB5bw

[maiden widget]

I love to win with [[kefka tower]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fca/7/bolass-citadel

Bolas's Citadel <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Artifact
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may play lands and cast spells from the top of your library. If you cast a spell this way, pay life equal to its mana value rather than pay its mana cost.
, Sacrifice ten nonland permanents: Each opponent loses 10 life.

[wraith silo]

lol lang you literally run 3x the instants i do

[soft peak]

yeah

I live on my opponents end step

:)

[maiden widget]

Lol i like most of the card

[wraith silo]

any particular reason you dont play delney lang?

[maiden widget]

Except

[soft peak]

price and power

[maiden widget]

The anti life gain one

[soft peak]

I dont have a wincon outside of burn so gotta have a hard counter to lifegain decks lol

[maiden widget]

It’s just me thing lol

I don’t like putting one card encounter 1 deck

[soft peak]

too niche you think

[maiden widget]

If I don’t have tutor for it

[soft peak]

well

I do run 3 tutors

and a TON of draw

so if I need it I can usually get it

[maiden widget]

Unless I play tutor I don’t play silver bullet

[wraith silo]

mines the most recent pinned if u wanna compare to mine lang lol

[maiden widget]

Mine is split between enchantments and instant

And 1 copy of toxill

Dang his value went up

[[jin-giraxias]]

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “jin-giraxias”

[maiden widget]

[[jin-gitaxias]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mom/65/jin-gitaxias-the-great-synthesis

Jin-Gitaxias <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Praetor
Ward
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell with mana value 3 or greater, draw a card.
: Exile Jin-Gitaxias, then return it to the battlefield transformed under its owner's control. Activate only as a sorcery and only if you have seven or more cards in hand.
5/5

The Great Synthesis
Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I — Draw cards equal to the number of cards in your hand. You have no maximum hand size for as long as you control this Saga.
II — Return all non-Phyrexian creatures to their owners' hands.
III — You may cast any number of spells from your hand without paying their mana costs. Exile this Saga, then return it to the battlefield (front face up).

[maiden widget]

The funniest wincon if the saga stick

[soft peak]

are you sure the blood/bond combo counts as bracket 2?

I feel like it isn't

[lusty igloo]

It's not a strategy even in bracket 2 it's actually so bad lol

[lusty igloo]

I think it's trash

[wraith silo]

exquisite blood? its not its bracket 4. sideboard is stuff i have to keep track of

[lusty igloo]

So slow

[soft peak]

oh im blind

my bad didnt see what category it was in haha

[lusty igloo]

Needs tutors to facilitate and I'd rather have tutors for smothering or curiosity

And I don't rub any tutors for GC slots

[wide quiver]

It's a 2 card combo Alpha, not at all bad lmfao

[soft peak]

yes everything not thoracle is trash for sure

[lusty igloo]

I don't think they provide much on their own is the problem

And they're expensive

[soft peak]

they do for yshtola

at least in b2

[lusty igloo]

Ehhhhhh

[wraith silo]

yeah could probably make a neater moxfield to post but sideboard stuff is stuff i thjought about/debating on and considering is stuff i cut from pre-con that i dont plan on adding back in

[lusty igloo]

B2??

I don't think it's even b2 legal

[soft peak]

yes that was my (misstaken) point

but its in his sideboard not main deck

[lusty igloo]

Yeah that's a bit much for b2

[wraith silo]

yeah bond/blood combo is restricted to b4+

[lusty igloo]

I personally don't think it's good enough for b3 but that's my kpinion. Sanguine bond is the problem I have, it just doesn't do enough

The other half is okay

[wide quiver]

You're crazy

[wraith silo]

doesnt mean i didnt run into it during a supposed b2 game at lgs but guy playing it probably hasnt updated any of his decks since bracket system was a thing

[lusty igloo]

I swear people play it in b3 all the time

[soft peak]

if you can give yshtola lifelink it cooks

[lusty igloo]

That one and blood moon ppl just ignore the rules lol

[soft peak]

by "itself"

[wraith silo]

2 card combos are b4. b3 allows late game 3 card combos

[soft peak]

that was my first draft of yshtola

life drain with the blood/bond combos and stuff

but it was too much for my regular pod

[lusty igloo]

Yeah technically illegal but I think it's fine power level wise. I still think it's slow and not worth slots. I personally don't run it I don't like it. Up to y'all tho

[wide quiver]

Again, crazy

it's very easy to get that much mana in black.

[soft peak]

power wise blood/bond feels fine for b3 i would think like any interaction at all and it falls apart... b3 decks are prepared to deal with that

[wraith silo]

you do realize if you have them on the board and cast any cmc 3 spell u just win right?

[wide quiver]

Tap cabal coffers and play both cards very easily

[soft peak]

like its clearly weak af for b4

[maiden widget]

Lmao define late game also kinda weird

But if you have infinite you’re deck should be a 4 lollll

[soft peak]

uh

pretty sure b2 allows infinites

[fervent burrow]

To me late in commander is like, turn 7-9 or so and on? But that's more of a #format-philosophy

[soft peak]

if its late game+not 2 card combo

[wraith silo]

b3 lowest your allowed to infinite if its 3 or less cards

[maiden widget]

Since when ? lol

[wraith silo]

b4 if its 2

[maiden widget]

Also I fall in love with [[waterlogged teaching]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/261/waterlogged-teachings-inundated-archive

Waterlogged Teachings <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaub:292901509056692224>

Instant
Search your library for an instant card or a card with flash, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
The long-dead librarians are still on hand to recommend selected titles.

Inundated Archive
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add or .
Moldering tomes line rotting shelves. Generations of priceless knowledge fade from memory beneath the waves.

[fervent burrow]

Since its being talked about

[lusty igloo]

Ofc lol maybe I'm just hating. You need lots of tutors to enable the combo to be reliable and it's still 10 mana

[maiden widget]

Clutched a Flawless maneuver is crazy

[wide quiver]

Waterlogged teachings is good, yeah

[wraith silo]

fair i wouldnt play around it as being your only win con but i see no reason not to throw it in the deck as a way to win

[maiden widget]

Or deadly rollicked

[lusty igloo]

How do we feel about the one mana white spell?

That gives indestructible and hexproof

[wide quiver]

Which?

[maiden widget]

Only deck I play a lot of tutor is equipment deck lol

[fervent burrow]

[[Loran escape]]?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/bro/14/lorans-escape

Loran's Escape <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Target artifact or creature gains hexproof and indestructible until end of turn. Scry 1.
As Terisia City burned, Feldon pressed the sylex into Loran's hands and urged her to run. Hope ran with her.

[lusty igloo]

The new one from FF

[wide quiver]

[[restoration magic]] ?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/30/restoration-magic

Restoration Magic <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Tiered (Choose one additional cost.)
• Cure — — Target permanent gains hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.
• Cura — — Target permanent gains hexproof and indestructible until end of turn. You gain 3 life.
• Curaga — — Permanents you control gain hexproof and indestructible until end of turn. You gain 6 life.

[soft peak]

since always... as long as your gameplan isnt to tutor for it every game I would think its fine

[lusty igloo]

Yeah restoration magic

[wide quiver]

Seems like decent protection

[daring oriole]

Thoughts on my slightly edited deck? https://archidekt.com/decks/14150020/ffxiv_scions_spellcraft

[fervent burrow]

Yeah it's fine, I don't see myself casting it for the higher values ever here tho

[maiden widget]

Only if it’s triggered yshtola

[fervent burrow]

Restoration never will

[maiden widget]

I don’t see the appeal of talion

What number are you even calling

[lusty igloo]

It's a cEDH card

[wide quiver]

Draws cards ✅
Annoying ✅

[lusty igloo]

Bracket 3 CMC is too varied

[fervent burrow]

2 or 3 gets a lot of milage for Talion

[wide quiver]

Yeah, 2 or 3

[soft peak]

talion is sick

[fervent burrow]

Not annoying enough to eat removal usually but annoying enough to trigger and draw

[wide quiver]

Worst case, look at the opponents' commanders, and call their MV, power, or toughness they share

[wraith silo]

i plan on doing 3 mostly for talion

[daring oriole]

Bunch of removal for CMC 3

[soft peak]

lmao i had someone steal my talion and choose 3

40% of my cards incl lands are cmc 3

😭

[soft peak]

liesa included I approve

[wide quiver]

I like both liesas

[maiden widget]

Instead of observing stasis

[fervent burrow]

I can't justify it in this deck jusy because its a creature 😦

[maiden widget]

Try [[amphibian downpour]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/51/amphibian-downpour

Amphibian Downpour <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Flash
Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies. Copies become tokens.)
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature loses all abilities and is a blue Frog creature with base power and toughness 1/1.

[wide quiver]

Same

Both are good though

[daring oriole]

I was thinking of putting in aetherflux reservoir with noctis + vexing bauble for a late game finisher if I get the hands in hand

[wide quiver]

I'm running both observing stasis and amphibian

[daring oriole]

But I didn't want to be over kill

[maiden widget]

I meant if I ever cut toxill

[wraith silo]

im cutting statis cuz every time i draw it. it feels like it jsut sits in my hand and i never want to play it

[wide quiver]

I feel like so much has to go right for aetherflux to be good here

[maiden widget]

I will put in liesa

If I ever cut toxxil

Gary is my beloved child

[lusty igloo]

vexing bauble is an anti-synergy no?

[wraith silo]

i assume we are talking about liesa gives life as alternative commander tax not forgotten archangel?

[wide quiver]

Gary's in my Spongebob deck, so I can't justify separating them

[lusty igloo]

are you not running the free spells?

[soft peak]

yes liesa the tax angel

[lusty igloo]

[[vexing bauble]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/212/vexing-bauble

Vexing Bauble <:mana1:292901508373282827>

Artifact
Whenever a player casts a spell, if no mana was spent to cast it, counter that spell.
, , Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.
No one knew who invented it. No one knew its purpose. All anyone knew was they didn't like being anywhere near it.

[maiden widget]

Unless I wanna build a Blue Blalck deck with Toxill

[wraith silo]

im debating atm if i wanna put that into my kaalia deck seeing how often kaalia probably going to be targetted rofl

[lusty igloo]

I'd run more than just curiosity in our bracket. Why not add ophindian eye and the other one at least?

[soft peak]

probably a good include since kaalia puts stuff onto the field doesnt cast

[daring oriole]

It might be a dead card unless it's in the grave yard some how but noctis can bring it back without paying a mana cost I'm from the grave and triggering it's effect and sending it back to the grave, which triggers aetherflux n looped

[maiden widget]

I have 4 curiosity effect

[wraith silo]

i have helm of ghastlord and curiosity in deck atm but havent put ophidian eye in

[maiden widget]

So I at least have one every game

[soft peak]

if youre aiming b2 I feel like ghastlord is a bit oppressive

thats just me

[maiden widget]

You know what oppressive ?

[fervent burrow]

Just a reminder Liesa doesn't help your commander only herself but

[maiden widget]

[[Sigil of sleep]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ddi/25/sigil-of-sleep

Sigil of Sleep <:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Whenever enchanted creature deals damage to a player, return target creature that player controls to its owner's hand.
Arrows are only one way to remove an enemy.

[soft peak]

yes that as well lol

[maiden widget]

My fav I’m the villain card

[soft peak]

another card Ive left out cus it's way too good

[daring oriole]

I could have put sigil, but 1 is already good enough

[full fulcrum]

how is this deck thing so lively here?

[daring oriole]

2 is really mean ; -;

We cat warlock enjoyers

[compact vine]

Part of me still wants to put in Ancient Silver Dragon, but it’s such a high CMC

[maiden widget]

I mean

[full fulcrum]

idk what dat means

[daring oriole]

Me neither

[maiden widget]

Play Gary for high mana cost stuff

[wraith silo]

commanders creature type is cat warlock

[compact vine]

Nah

[fervent burrow]

Just a popular commander i suppose

Sometimes they pop off

[compact vine]

She’s the single most popular FFXIV character

[wraith silo]

do yall play path of ancestry? feel like its worth playing just cuz its any color mana even with out the secondary effect

[full fulcrum]

FFXIV?

huh

[compact vine]

Final Fantasy 14

[lusty igloo]

shoot is this bracket 2?

[lusty igloo]

i run all 4;. tandem lookout puts in work surprisingly

[maiden widget]

She’s the most popular character out of all the precon

[wraith silo]

isnt she the most popular ff card period?

[full fulcrum]

i wonder how people chat more in brewing than in helping decks

[fervent burrow]

Just depends if you have no better rainbow land really. It basically just is a tapped land with scry 1 or 2 throughout the game

[soft peak]

vivi probably/maybe

[fervent burrow]

That's just luck of commander popularity

[compact vine]

Wasn’t really talking cards, I was more talking about the character herself

[fervent burrow]

Well there's Cloud

And Sephiroth

[daring oriole]

They said in FFXIV technically

[wraith silo]

vivi is 1k below yshtola at least as commander last i knew

[maiden widget]

But she’s the weakest precon out of the box right now?

[wraith silo]

700 less commander decks of vivi

[maiden widget]

Imo

[wraith silo]

yes

[lusty igloo]

ya she is

[fervent burrow]

I blame that on precon effect

[lusty igloo]

they made her weka on purpose

[daring oriole]

I just started a month ago, so I think my deck pinned is b2 ._.;;;

[wraith silo]

ff14 precon has too much flavor and lore that took away from the deck having 1 clear purpose and play pattern

or synergy i guess is best way to put it

other precons have better in deck synergy/play flow while ff14 precon is more flavor and lore focused

[maiden widget]

It’s flavor purpose

The strongest imo is tidus one

Then cloud then tera

[wraith silo]

iirc general consensus in pure precon strength is

1. ff10
2. ff7
3. ff6
4. ff14

[daring oriole]

I heard there was an 3 card infinite out of the box for tidus's precon

[wraith silo]

yup

[fervent burrow]

There is

[daring oriole]

[fervent burrow]

That's what happens when you put ballista in a precon with new cards

[soft peak]

turn 3 as well

lol

[compact vine]

Yeah I specifically said FFXIV XD

And typically anyone who actually plays FFXIV is a diehard OF FFXIV

[lusty igloo]

Reaper's Scythe looks cuttable @daring oriole
consider the 1 mana counterpells instead of just 3 cmc+ ones

consider free spells if can afford

i saw your section and don't remove tandem lookout. not before 10+ other cuts you can make to your deck. your deck is lacking in curiosity effects, not vice-versa

are you a FF fan? I think a lot of these FF cards are not good and I'd ruthlessly cut them if you aren't

[wraith silo]

commander wise yshtola is most played commander out of any FF card
vivi is most played commander out of main set

[wraith silo]

reaper scythe is stupidly free lol. it gets +3/+3 if not +4/+4 every time its my turn.

[daring oriole]

I am a fan and since I'm just getting into mtg, they work for now

[lusty igloo]

okok

[wide quiver]

It's basically worth it in every 3+ commander deck

[compact vine]

Yeah I’m big on reaper’s scythe and ninja’s blades

[lusty igloo]

im not sure your deck will survive high interaction decks

in tryhard pods you might need more protection since your counterspells are expensive. like spellskite and swiftfoot at least

final judgement looks strictly worse farewell

[wraith silo]

i would cut some removal to swap to counters imo

it is strictly worse farewell but every time someone mentions farewell at my work or at lgs people get tilted

at least locally for me the salt for farewell is very high

[lusty igloo]

I'm a strong proponent of the board wipe all but ones. Tragic Arrogance, Starfall Invocation, Slaughter the Strong, Yahenni's Expertise, and Promise of Loyalty

also consider clone effects like quantumn misalignment and the flying clone I forgot

whats hte flying clone card

[maiden widget]

Do you have it copy pasta

[lusty igloo]

yeah LOL

[wide quiver]

[[irenicus's vile duplication]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/78/irenicuss-vile-duplication

Irenicus's Vile Duplication <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except the token has flying and it isn't legendary.
"You will serve me better in this form." —Jon Irenicus

[maiden widget]

Lmao

[lusty igloo]

do you guys run [[Yahenni's Expertise]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/aer/75/yahennis-expertise

Yahenni's Expertise <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
All creatures get -3/-3 until end of turn.
You may cast a spell with mana value 3 or less from your hand without paying its mana cost.
"The Consulate pushed me to my limit, darling, and this is the result."

[soft peak]

I do

[wraith silo]

im playing farewell, starfall, supreme verdict, and toxic deluge

[lusty igloo]

does the 3 mana for free spell actually put in work?

or is it mostly a dead effect

[maiden widget]

[[quantum of misalignment]]

[lusty igloo]

also is -3/-3 enough ?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/52/quantum-misalignment

Quantum Misalignment <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except it isn't legendary.
Rebound (If you cast this spell from your hand, exile it as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost.)

[soft peak]

in my deck it does, since I run a LOT of 3cmc stuff

generally thouhg

I would think the flexibility of toxic deluge is just better

[lusty igloo]

hmmm alright

[wraith silo]

it gets rid of a lot of stuff but doesnt remove yshtola which is why its popular.

but i prefer toxic

[wide quiver]

Yeah, toxic is just better

[maiden widget]

Nah toxic deluge -3 -3 is weird

But I still have it in the deck

To answer token deck

[wide quiver]

I'm trying out [[V.A.T.S.]] as an interesting instant speed pseudo boardwipe

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/pip/50/vats

V.A.T.S. <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Split second (As long as this spell is on the stack, players can't cast spells or activate abilities that aren't mana abilities.)
Choose any number of target creatures with equal toughness. Destroy the chosen creatures.
The Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System redefines combat. Get your V.A.T.S. today!

[soft peak]

instant speed is neat

[lusty igloo]

mmm

are you already on ophidian downpour

i buthcered that

ampbihian

[soft peak]

whomst

[maiden widget]

Amphibian downpour

[wide quiver]

Yeah, I use amphibian downpour

[maiden widget]

Best card in the deck

/jk

[lusty igloo]

if storm proced yshtola it might be up there

only cunts 1

*counts

[wide quiver]

Put a dollar in the swear jar

[daring oriole]

So more curiosity effects/counter spells for my deck correct?

[lusty igloo]

yeayea and maybe 1-sided board wipes

instead of spot removal

the spot removals you're using are pretty expensive anyway so just 1-2 more mana you get a baord wipe that doesnt kill your cat

not instant but still

[daring oriole]

Sounds good ' 3'

[lusty igloo]

[[slaughter the strong]] costs the same mana as your 3 mana kill 1 creatures

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/131/slaughter-the-strong

Slaughter the Strong <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player chooses any number of creatures they control with total power 4 or less, then sacrifices all other creatures they control.
"Cut the beasts out from under them and their strength is nothing." —Vona of Iedo, Butcher of Magan

[lusty igloo]

also consider [[sygg]] i dont run him but he's considerable

[surreal shoal]

Multiple cards match “sygg”, can you be more specific?

[wide quiver]

Yeah, I only value single target removal if it targets any permanent

[lusty igloo]

[[sygg, river cutthroat]] or something

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/znc/103/sygg-river-cutthroat

Sygg, River Cutthroat <:manaub:292901509056692224><:manaub:292901509056692224>

Legendary Creature — Merfolk Rogue
At the beginning of each end step, if an opponent lost 3 or more life this turn, you may draw a card. (Damage causes loss of life.)
"It's not a matter of deserving. It's a matter of strength. The power to hold versus the power to take."
1/3

[lusty igloo]

same

[maiden widget]

When did this card become 13 dollar

It was 4 buck and I didn’t buy it bc I though it was notngood enough

[wide quiver]

When Yshtola came out lol

[maiden widget]

Card not good enough imo

[wide quiver]

Agreed

[maiden widget]

Not worth $13

[fervent burrow]

It's really just another Yshtola that draws each turn minus an enabler for it

[compact vine]

This is why I don’t play higher than bracket 3 😛

zero interest

[maiden widget]

If I spend $13 rather save like $17 more and buy a Delney

[compact vine]

I got lucky and had a Delney in my bulk without realizing it

[maiden widget]

People said Delney was under $15 on release

[compact vine]

Mine was just sitting in the box from the singular bundle of Karlov I bought

[soft peak]

yeah sygg has been in and out of my deck

I run [[ledger shredder]] over him right now

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/snc/46/ledger-shredder

Ledger Shredder <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Bird Advisor
Flying
Whenever a player casts their second spell each turn, this creature connives. (Draw a card, then discard a card. If you discarded a nonland card, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.)
No evidence, no crime.
1/3

[daring oriole]

How do we feel about [[exsanguinate]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/173/exsanguinate

Exsanguinate <:manax:292901509082120202><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Each opponent loses X life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.
"I didn't say I would help you find your way home. I said I would help you finish your adventure."

[maiden widget]

Ok if you cut [[papalymo totolymo]] you’re throwing

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/90/papalymo-totolymo

Papalymo Totolymo <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Dwarf Wizard
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, Papalymo Totolymo deals 1 damage to each opponent and you gain 1 life.
, , Sacrifice Papalymo Totolymo: Each opponent who lost life this turn sacrifices a creature with the greatest power among creatures they control.
1/2

[maiden widget]

I mean I cut it from the precon

[soft peak]

good for b2 or if you have infinite mana combo

[maiden widget]

But it’s a cute wincon

[soft peak]

I run [[death to the debtless]] though

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/176/debt-to-the-deathless

Debt to the Deathless <:manax:292901509082120202><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Each opponent loses two times X life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.
Some of Orzhov's cruelest collectors remember their debtors by taste alone.

[soft peak]

bit better late game

[wraith silo]

I enjoy it especially when I have [[vito]] or [[enduring tenacity]] on the board

[surreal shoal]

Multiple cards match “vito”, can you be more specific?

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/95/enduring-tenacity

Enduring Tenacity <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment Creature — Snake Glimmer
Whenever you gain life, target opponent loses that much life.
When Enduring Tenacity dies, if it was a creature, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control. It's an enchantment. (It's not a creature.)
4/3

[daring oriole]

Oh yeah I forgot to consider Vito, got it!

[maiden widget]

Expensive

[soft peak]

Is anyone actually casting exsanguinate for low X values

[maiden widget]

I cast for 6 lol

[soft peak]

in that case yeah death is expensive

Im usually casting turn 9+ with a bunch of rocks/treasures so

X is high enough that debt slaps

[maiden widget]

Game usually don’t last that long for me

[soft peak]

bracket 2 life

hehe

[wide quiver]

Yeah, turn 8-10 is usually the last turn

[maiden widget]

When I slammed down enough esper controlled shit everyone scoped

[lusty igloo]

I don't think it's very good personally

[wide quiver]

I also don't like exsanguinate

[compact vine]

I like it >_>

[sleek sonnet]

Same here

[wraith silo]

do yall use any of the leylines?

[maiden widget]

[[leylines of anticipation]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/726/leyline-of-anticipation

Leyline of Anticipation <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
If this card is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
You may cast spells as though they had flash.

[wraith silo]

or [[leyline of the void]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/106/leyline-of-the-void

Leyline of the Void <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
If this card is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
If a card would be put into an opponent's graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead.
Cracks in the facade of the House lead not to escape but to oblivion.

[soft peak]

there are stronger versions of that effect and there are more fun versions of that effect ([[Tidal Barracuda]]) so I've never wanted to run it

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c20/39/tidal-barracuda

Tidal Barracuda <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Fish
Any player may cast spells as though they had flash.
Your opponents can't cast spells during your turn.
It lurks in the spaces between moments.
3/4

[maiden widget]

[[teferi, time raveler]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/232/teferi-time-raveler

Teferi, Time Raveler <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Teferi
Each opponent can cast spells only any time they could cast a sorcery.
+1: Until your next turn, you may cast sorcery spells as though they had flash.
−3: Return up to one target artifact, creature, or enchantment to its owner's hand. Draw a card.
Loyalty: 4

[maiden widget]

It’s so good in the deck lol

Unless they blow him up right the way

[soft peak]

do players get priority before you can put his +1 on the stack?

after playing him

[maiden widget]

I mean the +1 give you flash

[soft peak]

oph

my bad got his passive and his +1 mixed up

[maiden widget]

I mean yes he can get counter spell

[[high fae trickster]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/40/high-fae-trickster

High Fae Trickster <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Faerie Wizard
Flash (You may cast this spell any time you could cast an instant.)
Flying
You may cast spells as though they had flash.
To the High Fae, spells that take a human years to master come as easily as breathing.
4/2

[maiden widget]

Also a flyer I guess

But what do you even flash thou

Boaed wipes ?

[soft peak]

depending on the level a win tho they just use [[borne upon a wind]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/44/borne-upon-a-wind

Borne Upon a Wind <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
You may cast spells this turn as though they had flash.
Draw a card.
"I looked on Aragorn and thought how great and terrible a Lord he might have become, had he taken the Ring for himself. Not for naught does Mordor fear him." —Legolas

[maiden widget]

Smh just one turn

[soft peak]

only need 1 to win

[wide quiver]

It seems good if you want to do a flurry build

But I just run mostly instants anyways

[maiden widget]

I need to up my. 3cmc instant game

@wide quiver can you recommend some that I don’t have

[soft peak]

https://moxfield.com/decks/tgy2NQqgPEqnT2rpdgB5bw

check my list I have a good number

[wide quiver]

I've been really happy with [[szat's will]] (Not 3 CMC though obv)

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/152/szats-will

Szat's Will <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Choose one. If you control a commander as you cast this spell, you may choose both instead.
• Each opponent sacrifices a creature they control with the greatest power.
• Exile all opponents' graveyards, then create X 0/1 black Thrull creature tokens, where X is the greatest power among creature cards exiled this way.

[maiden widget]

5 cmc

[wide quiver]

Not an instant, but flash [[smokebomb]] is really funny protection

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/acr/75/smoke-bomb

Smoke Bomb <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
Flash
All creatures have shroud. (They can't be the targets of spells or abilities.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this artifact. When you do, target creature you control can't be blocked this turn.
When the sun removes all shadows, the Assassins create their own.

[maiden widget]

I might run it in cloud deck actually

[wide quiver]

protection mixed with disruption, since it stops opponents from targetting their own things as well

Want to equip something before my turn? Nope!

Want to add counters? Nope!

[maiden widget]

If you have shroud you can’t put +1 counter ?

[soft peak]

cant be targetted by anyone

including owner

[wide quiver]

You can't target the thing with shroud

[maiden widget]

From landfall ?

[wide quiver]

So if the card says "target", then nope

[[march of swirling mist]] is great too

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/61/march-of-swirling-mist

March of Swirling Mist <:manax:292901509082120202><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
As an additional cost to cast this spell, you may exile any number of blue cards from your hand. This spell costs less to cast for each card exiled this way.
Up to X target creatures phase out. (While they're phased out, they're treated as though they don't exist. Each one phases in before its controller untaps during their next untap step.)

[maiden widget]

Well it Connor triggered yshtola

Not*

[wide quiver]

It can

If you pay 3+

X spells become the CMC paid on the stack

So X spells trigger Yshtola if you pay 3 or more total mana

Or in this case, you could exile a blue card and pay a blue for 3 mana

[soft peak]

I used it offensively a few days ago too

[wide quiver]

Yeah you can remove blockers

[soft peak]

phased out dudes whole board so he couldnt hit me lol

[wide quiver]

Or phase out attackers, yeah

It's really versatile and great

[maiden widget]

Sometime I wish yshtola is Jeskai instead of esper

Imagine how much funny you can do with red spell

[wide quiver]

Black is just so good though

[maiden widget]

What you lose with black ?

[[deadly rollick]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/147/deadly-rollick

Deadly Rollick <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
If you control a commander, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Exile target creature.
Otrimi was disappointed at how quickly its new friend got tired and stopped playing.

[wide quiver]

Snuff out, dismember etc

[maiden widget]

Which member ?

[wide quiver]

This member

[soft peak]

tutors, talion, lotho

[wide quiver]

[[dismember]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mm2/79/dismember

Dismember <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manabp:292901508922474496><:manabp:292901508922474496>

Instant
( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Target creature gets -5/-5 until end of turn.
"You serve Phyrexia. Your pieces would better serve Phyrexia elsewhere." —Azax-Azog, the Demon Thane

[soft peak]

honestly

[wide quiver]

Yeah, dimir and orzhov cards are so good

[soft peak]

its the white in esper im not sure about

[maiden widget]

I know the card lol

[soft peak]

ive started working on a grixis deck

red blue black

[wide quiver]

[[emet-selch of the third seat]] is so fun

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/81/emet-selch-of-the-third-seat

Emet-Selch of the Third Seat <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Spells you cast from your graveyard cost less to cast.
Whenever one or more opponents lose life, you may cast target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard. If that spell would be put into your graveyard, exile it instead. Do this only once each turn.
3/4

[soft peak]

I'm a ritual enjoyer

[maiden widget]

I just want to have puns

[soft peak]

big mana out of nowhere

[maiden widget]

Ik lol

[soft peak]

how strong is this guy really

I have a hard time judging

[maiden widget]

I double counter spell with this guy

[soft peak]

is he like

delney tier?

or not quite as good

[wide quiver]

Close probably

[maiden widget]

No

He’s way hotter

The fact you can reuse [[vile duplication]] is wild

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/78/irenicuss-vile-duplication

Irenicus's Vile Duplication <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except the token has flying and it isn't legendary.
"You will serve me better in this form." —Jon Irenicus

[wide quiver]

He makes it very easy to utilize your graveyard to control

[maiden widget]

For 2 mana

[wide quiver]

That too. And he's so versatile

[soft peak]

I might have to readd him

[maiden widget]

Or reuse a board wipe for cheap

[wide quiver]

Need to counter something, but don't have the counter in hand? Cast a different instant and cast a counter in your GY for 1 mana

[maiden widget]

Or panic recast flawless maneuver

[wide quiver]

That too!@

I'm not sure if I want to keep [[render silent]] in my deck

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dgm/96/render-silent

Render Silent <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target spell. Its controller can't cast spells this turn.
"We have confiscated your spells as evidence. Once we conclude our investigation, you may petition to have them returned."

[wide quiver]

3 pips is rough

[maiden widget]

I want to add

[soft peak]

add whirlwind denial

[maiden widget]

[[emet-selch, the unsundered]]

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “emet-selch, the unsundered”

[soft peak]

it can be so funny

I played vs a zada

about to combo off and win like turn 4

and I hit him with [[whirlwind denial]] 😭

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/thb/81/whirlwind-denial

Whirlwind Denial <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
For each spell and ability your opponents control, counter it unless its controller pays .
"No, no, and ... no."

[wide quiver]

lol, nice

[maiden widget]

[[emet selch unsundered]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/218/emet-selch-unsundered-hades-sorcerer-of-eld

Emet-Selch, Unsundered <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Vigilance
Whenever Emet-Selch enters or attacks, draw a card, then discard a card.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if there are fourteen or more cards in your graveyard, you may transform Emet-Selch.
2/4

Hades, Sorcerer of Eld
Legendary Creature — Avatar
Vigilance
Echo of the Lost — During your turn, you may play cards from your graveyard.
If a card or token would be put into your graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead.
"What will become of our triumphs? Our hopes? Our... our despair?"
6/6

[lusty igloo]

this is bracket 2??

[soft peak]

nah

[lusty igloo]

i dont even run mindbreak trap in bracket 3

[soft peak]

when I was tryingh brakcet 3

[lusty igloo]

that feels high power lol

[soft peak]

i wasnt sure if my deck was a 2 or 3

yup I dont think his deck was a 3 but he got totally blown out

lol

[maiden widget]

Should I get [[inkshield]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/221/inkshield

Inkshield <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt to you this turn. For each 1 damage prevented this way, create a 2/1 white and black Inkling creature token with flying.
Silverquill's elite know how to offer a scathing rebuttal without uttering a word.

[lusty igloo]

i love inkshiedl

[soft peak]

then I did nothing else the rest of the game and lost

omegalul

[lusty igloo]

it wins games

[wide quiver]

I like inkshield

[sleek sonnet]

It’s great

[lusty igloo]

i blocked 120 dmg literally 2 days ago

[maiden widget]

Dang card expensive

I might say fuck it and get one

[wide quiver]

I like fogs in general tbh

[lusty igloo]

are you running the 2 mana one

[soft peak]

i hate that inkshield is combat damage only

[fervent burrow]

[[Batwing brume]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/arc/80/batwing-brume

Batwing Brume <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manawb:292901509044109312>

Instant
Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt this turn if was spent to cast this spell. Each player loses 1 life for each attacking creature they control if was spent to cast this spell. (Do both if was spent.)

[wide quiver]

I'm not

[maiden widget]

I mean that’s 80% you would take anyway

[sleek sonnet]

There’s almost no greater feeling than being able to recur a fog over and over again

[soft peak]

depends on meta ig my pod has a lot of burn

I run [[flare of fortitude]] instead

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/26/flare-of-fortitude

Flare of Fortitude <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
You may sacrifice a nontoken white creature rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Until end of turn, your life total can't change, and permanents you control gain hexproof and indestructible.
"I call upon a power greater than myself."

[maiden widget]

Lol I’m the president Kuja player

I know

[wide quiver]

Nice to meet you Mr. President.

[maiden widget]

Kuja is actually weirdly my fav commander in this set

The most balance commander imo

[lusty igloo]

NOT YSHTOLA???

[wide quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[maiden widget]

No

She’s not fair lol

They overtune her then make her precon trash

[wide quiver]

Her precon is fine 🤷‍♂️

[maiden widget]

I mean better than some past precon for sure

Compare to the other 3 ?

Tera is kinda iffy

But celes is so good

[desert sequoia]

Reporting back on my Abuelo's At Home Y'shtola
Takeaways are:

• It's definitely B3 territory to be rummaging in the library as much as you need to do for the combo
• It is not B4 because it's visible from outer space and it's so easy to interrupt (counterspelled my Replenish, got to resolve Abuelo)
• Omniscience will win you the game if you just have any ability to draw at all.
• It is extremely clunky but it is kinda funny

[lusty igloo]

Are there any vehicles we should be running

They're non creatures right

[maiden widget]

[[the Luna whale]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/60/the-lunar-whale

The Lunar Whale <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Artifact — Vehicle
Flying
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
As long as The Lunar Whale attacked this turn, you may play the top card of your library.
Crew 1
3/5

[maiden widget]

It’s thematically cool

[lusty igloo]

Shorikai?

[maiden widget]

Why you need an 8/8 body thou

[lusty igloo]

He's to draw cards

Idk if worth it probably not

[maiden widget]

Lol [[jackdaw]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/acr/58/jackdaw

Jackdaw <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Artifact — Vehicle
Whenever Jackdaw deals combat damage to a player, you may discard your hand. If you do, draw a card for each artifact you control.
Crew 3
"Now you're ready to sail for the Horn, Weigh, hey, roll and go!" —"Randy Dandy Oh"
4/4

[maiden widget]

Nvm it’s red

[compact vine]

Honestly I’ve never been a fan of vehicles

Only one I’ve ever put in a deck is the Regalia in my landfall deck

[vital steppe]

vehicles are good as tap outlets and that's pretty much it imo

[pallid ocean]

Just play [[the reality chip]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/74/the-reality-chip

The Reality Chip <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Artifact Creature — Equipment Jellyfish
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
As long as The Reality Chip is attached to a creature, you may play lands and cast spells from the top of your library.
Reconfigure (: Attach to target creature you control; or unattach from a creature. Reconfigure only as a sorcery. While attached, this isn't a creature.)
0/4

[pallid ocean]

If you really want that extra card advantage

[wide quiver]

I really like the reality chip

[pallid ocean]

It's a great card

[wraith silo]

wont link it cuz its part of space set but for those who are reading edge of eternities stuff what yall think of decode transmissions?

[fervent burrow]

Yeah it's probably an include

[maiden widget]

Who ?

[wraith silo]

its an edge of eternities sorcery

not posting what the card actually does here cuz theres a channel for that but curious on opinions of those who have seen it

and i agree with larcondos and its an include

[fervent burrow]

I mean in many cases its a better [[risky shortcut]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dft/103/risky-shortcut

Risky Shortcut <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Draw two cards. Each player loses 2 life.
"Don't think of it as cheating, think of it as track they forgot to lay out for us." —Rido, Endrider

[wraith silo]

just play a removal spell and remove anything and ye

[maiden widget]

Nah I love my risky short cut

[wraith silo]

its risky shortcut that can ping only opponents

[maiden widget]

Prolly cut [[crushing disappointment]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/stx/68/crushing-disappointment

Crushing Disappointment <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Each player loses 2 life. You draw two cards.
Most students could barely endure Dean Embrose's scrutiny for a semester or two; Killian lived with it his entire life.

[maiden widget]

For it

[wraith silo]

ima cut [[syphon mind]] for it i think

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/772/syphon-mind

Syphon Mind <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Each other player discards a card. You draw a card for each card discarded this way.
When tempers run high, it's easy to lose your head.

[wide quiver]

They are all sorceries 🤢

I prefer instant speed card draw

[maiden widget]

Paying 4 for instant draw is rough thou

[fervent burrow]

On my turn if I';m paying 3 mana, draining 4 life from everyone and then drawing another card im happy

[wide quiver]

I am never happy

[maiden widget]

That’s why risky shortcut is my fav card

[compact vine]

I don’t really like any of them

[fervent burrow]

Yshtola players have lost it
3 mana draw 3 drain 12 life heal 4 isn't worth it anymore at sorcery speed

[wide quiver]

lol

I just prefer instant speed stuff

I might run crushing disappointment though

Since that was my nickname in college

[maiden widget]

Honestly my fav draw spell from this deck is

[[frantic search]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/153/frantic-search

Frantic Search <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Draw two cards, then discard two cards. Untap up to three lands.
It took the banning of temporal manipulation at Tolaria West to teach its students the value of time.

[wide quiver]

That's my favorite draw spell period

"draw"

[maiden widget]

Unless I’m in top deck mode

[lusty igloo]

What is it called

[wraith silo]

decode transmissions

[lusty igloo]

Tyyy

Looks slightly worse than risky shortcuts as a non warper

I dropped risky shortcuts recently. Felt like stock up was just a little better

[wraith silo]

just pop something an opponent is playing

[lusty igloo]

Too conditional

[wraith silo]

see ima play it, risky transmission, and stock up lol

[lusty igloo]

You kind of want to hold onto those instants for mana to enemy turns anyway. Might need mana to counter

Sorcery speed forced your hand to play it during your turn

That's fair

I'd rather just add tandem lookout if you're not on it. I think people sleep on him just cuz he's the worst of the bunch, but he's still so good