Y'shtola Communal Brewing

[compact vine]

This is the one I have

[lusty igloo]

yeah that ones the 3rd best probably

partner sakashima is a fraud

(for his price)

[white mirage]

Looks dope af

[lusty igloo]

able to pick enemy creatures even if they have hexproof/shroud

[maiden widget]

Here my fav sakashima SLD

[mild harness]

I found like 15 cards that I think could work for yshtola. Is it alright if I post the pictures of them or will that be too spammy?

[white mirage]

I mean i personally wouldnt mind but thats just me

[wide quiver]

Do it! If you do it in a single post, it becomes an album and is more compact.

[white mirage]

I agrees

[mild harness]

It’ll be like 2 posts because 10 picture cap

But still compacts

[wide quiver]

👍

[mild harness]

Soul barrier says each opponent now

Or an opponent

Haunting wind basically triggers whenever an artifact becomes tapped

[compact vine]

You’re never activating Kaya’s ultimate 😛

[fervent burrow]

Seeing her ult reminded me, I got a boardwipe and still had enough mana to get [[fandaniel]] out afterwards. Easy 18 dmg to everyone

[mild harness]

I just liked the 3 mana repeatable graveyard hate

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/46/fandaniel-telophoroi-ascian

Fandaniel, Telophoroi Ascian <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, surveil 1.
At the beginning of your end step, each opponent may sacrifice a nontoken creature of their choice. Each opponent who doesn't loses 2 life for each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard.
4/5

[mild harness]

Fandaniel is funny

[compact vine]

Planeswalkers are typically kill on sight in Commander. You’ll likely only get to activate it once

[mild harness]

I used to play a guff superfriends deck and the thought of “I should kill that planeswalker” was nonexistent

I tore it apart because it was too easy to win because of that

[compact vine]

That is SHOCKING to me, honestly. I stopped running Planeswalkers entirely because my group simply doesn’t let them breathe

[mild harness]

I stopped using them for the exact opposite lol

I’m used to solitaire play and it’s annoying

I built a [[Alexios]] deck once and everyone got so heated because it forced them to put a timer on the game. I’m doing similar with yshtola if I can but not as quickly

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/acr/33/alexios-deimos-of-kosmos

Alexios, Deimos of Kosmos <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Berserker
Trample
Alexios attacks each combat if able, can't be sacrificed, and can't attack its owner.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player gains control of Alexios, untaps it, and puts a +1/+1 counter on it. It gains haste until end of turn.
4/4

[mild harness]

Slow burn the candle at both ends. Either you take aggressive actions and win the game or solitaire and get burned out

[maiden widget]

Someone today mill me with [[jidoor]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/284/jidoor-aristocratic-capital-overture

Jidoor, Aristocratic Capital <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Land — Town
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
"You're the spitting image of Maria!" —Jidoor resident

Overture
Sorcery — Adventure
Target opponent mills half their library, rounded down. (Then exile this card. You may play the land later from exile.)

[maiden widget]

Then I drop [[fandaniel]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/46/fandaniel-telophoroi-ascian

Fandaniel, Telophoroi Ascian <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, surveil 1.
At the beginning of your end step, each opponent may sacrifice a nontoken creature of their choice. Each opponent who doesn't loses 2 life for each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard.
4/5

[maiden widget]

Threaning 34 damage a turn

[mild harness]

Lmao

[maiden widget]

I want to put it in the deck lol

[maiden widget]

Ok I finally gave in and ordered a [[hope’s aero magic]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1869/cyclonic-rift

Cyclonic Rift <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return target nonland permanent you don't control to its owner's hand.
Overload (You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")
"I'll try to watch out for you, too."

[maiden widget]

🫣

[compact vine]

How much did it run you?

[maiden widget]

Under $30

Surprisingly

[compact vine]

That is SHOCKING

Maybe I’ll find one >_>

[maiden widget]

Literary me when I see the listing lol

[[$$hope’s aero magic]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1869/cyclonic-rift

Prices for Cyclonic Rift

Secret Lair Drop

$28.15

Ravnica Remastered

$50.91 • €35.72 • 1.69 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$50.67 • 0.95 TIX

Ravnica Remastered

$920.00

Ravnica Remastered

$67.88 • 1.44 TIX

Commander Masters

$35.96 • €26.77 • 0.45 TIX

Commander Masters

$66.93 • 0.36 TIX

Magic Online Promos

1.38 TIX

Double Masters

$38.68 • €27.59 • 0.12 TIX

[mild harness]

Foil?

[mild harness]

Stonks

Mine is foil too

[maiden widget]

Yeah I know

I think bc people just got their SLD now they tried to dump it

This card prolly will be expensive like other cyclonic rift later

[green vigil]

Thassa/consultation
Bloodchief ascension /mind crank

Are probably your 2 best finishers in the deck. Unless your looking for non combo

[compact vine]

Thassa’s so boring

[maiden widget]

Yeah this is if you want to dip your hand into B4 and CEDH

[green vigil]

It is boring he simply asked for finishers though without any depth.

[maiden widget]

You can also add in Vito + exquisite blood

As finisher

[green vigil]

Well any of the 10 card combo that deals with those lol

Personally I'd prefer tenacity over Vito for the fact it needs only exiled to be gotten rid of

[maiden widget]

Like any 2 cards generic combo that esper can do, can be a finisher

[green vigil]

Go old school before thassa and run lab maniac

[maiden widget]

But they all take the deck out of B3 sadly 🤣

Tandem lookout, curiosity, Ophidian eyes, helm of ghastlord on yshtola

Then you labmaniac

[green vigil]

Its a shame helm pumps

The other 3 you can xombo with delney and get way more

Every trigger would yield 12 damage gain 4 life. Draw 18 then draw 1 at end step

Ah the dream

[maiden widget]

Yeah I love how easy this deck can pull out 2 card combo kill the table

But I want to play in b3 table more haha

[green vigil]

And now if you want to dig deep into card draw. There's lots of ways to ping based on that

Scrap crawler

Not scrap crawler. Lol

[maiden widget]

Nah I love playing protect the tower

And tactical boardwipe when needed

[green vigil]

[[Underworld dream]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/thb/121/underworld-dreams

Underworld Dreams <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent draws a card, this enchantment deals 1 damage to that player.
Dreams are just one more form of torment.

[green vigil]

[[Scrawling crawler]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/132/scrawling-crawler

Scrawling Crawler <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact Creature — Phyrexian Construct
At the beginning of your upkeep, each player draws a card.
Whenever an opponent draws a card, that player loses 1 life.
It spreads the machine gospel of New Phyrexia, its task incomplete until all surrender to perfection.
3/2

[green vigil]

[[Psychosis crawler]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/234/psychosis-crawler

Psychosis Crawler <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Artifact Creature — Phyrexian Horror
Psychosis Crawler's power and toughness are each equal to the number of cards in your hand.
Whenever you draw a card, each opponent loses 1 life.
"If that brain can't figure out the secret of the serum, then add more brains." —Rhmir, Hand of the Augur
*/*

[maiden widget]

What if I make this become a life gain deck

So I drop [[hope estine]]

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “hope estine”

[maiden widget]

[[hope estheim]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/226/hope-estheim

Hope Estheim <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Lifelink
At the beginning of your end step, each opponent mills X cards, where X is the amount of life you gained this turn.
"If we have the power to destroy Cocoon, then we have the power to save it."
2/2

[mild harness]

Yeah I saw it was the cheapest and bought it

[maiden widget]

[green vigil]

You can build a lifegain deck around it. It just be an inferior oloro deck then

[maiden widget]

But mill synergy

[green vigil]

You can run all the cards that at beginning of end step if you gain x life you create a token

Idk of there will be enough support for that

[maiden widget]

Lol I was meme with

[[jidoor]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/284/jidoor-aristocratic-capital-overture

Jidoor, Aristocratic Capital <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Land — Town
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
"You're the spitting image of Maria!" —Jidoor resident

Overture
Sorcery — Adventure
Target opponent mills half their library, rounded down. (Then exile this card. You may play the land later from exile.)

[green vigil]

Your reliant on getting 1 card in your 99 to start milling then also reliant on gaining enough life on your turn alone

[maiden widget]

Honestly now I realized I need to start cooking on a Hope mill deck

Like a bracket 2 level

[green vigil]

Run all the 1 and 2 drop creatures that gain life when a creature enters

Then run like cleric and wind crystal to generate double the life gain

You can keep the power of your creatures low this way and use board wipes that destroy 3 or more

Just a thought

[maiden widget]

Yeah

Thank you for giving me my next deck idea lol

[green vigil]

Lol no problem

I usually brew decks for alot of commanders in each deck and decide down the line if I want to actually build it or not

[maiden widget]

Yeah beside hope there is 2 more commander I want to build for ff

[[zenos yae]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/127/zenos-yae-galvus-shinryu-transcendent-rival

Zenos yae Galvus <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Noble Warrior
My First Friend — When Zenos yae Galvus enters, choose a creature an opponent controls. Until end of turn, creatures other than Zenos yae Galvus and the chosen creature get -2/-2.
When the chosen creature leaves the battlefield, transform Zenos yae Galvus.
4/4

Shinryu, Transcendent Rival
Legendary Creature — Dragon
Flying
As this creature transforms into Shinryu, choose an opponent.
Burning Chains — When the chosen player loses the game, you win the game.
"The heavens are too small a field for our dance. Let us transcend this mortal coil!"
8/8

[maiden widget]

and [[kefka, court]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/231/kefka-court-mage-kefka-ruler-of-ruin

Kefka, Court Mage <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Whenever Kefka enters or attacks, each player discards a card. Then you draw a card for each card type among cards discarded this way.
: Each opponent sacrifices a permanent of their choice. Transform Kefka. Activate only as a sorcery.
4/5

Kefka, Ruler of Ruin
Legendary Creature — Avatar Wizard
Flying
Whenever an opponent loses life during your turn, you draw that many cards.
The end draws near.
5/7

[green vigil]

I want to do [[Kuja genome sorcerer]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/232/kuja-genome-sorcerer-trance-kuja-fate-defied

Kuja, Genome Sorcerer <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Mutant Wizard
At the beginning of your end step, create a tapped 0/1 black Wizard creature token with "Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this token deals 1 damage to each opponent." Then if you control four or more Wizards, transform Kuja.
"Peace is but a shadow of death, desperate to forget its painful past..."
3/4

Trance Kuja, Fate Defied
Legendary Creature — Avatar Wizard
Flame Star — If a Wizard you control would deal damage to a permanent or player, it deals double that damage instead.
"Yes, this is it! This is the power I've always wanted!"
4/6

[maiden widget]

Lol that crossed my mind too

Bc I realized how many card that make wizard token in this set

[green vigil]

Theres also just alot of red and black wizards in general and ones that double the trigger

[void grove]

Ok so yshtola as esper control is something im thinking of making now. People don't run enough removal in my pods! But also what are the alternate win cons assuming yshtola gets hated out?

[green vigil]

Combos or just casual win conditions?

[void grove]

Casual, I'm a bracket 3 scrub playing with bracket 3 scrubs on a budget

[green vigil]

[[Reins of power]] could be a neat win condition if your pod runs creature aggro

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/734/reins-of-power

Reins of Power <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Untap all creatures you control and all creatures target opponent controls. You and that opponent each gain control of all creatures the other controls until end of turn. Those creatures gain haste until end of turn.

[green vigil]

Then theres [[valley floodcaller]] and [Banishing knack]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/79/valley-floodcaller

Valley Floodcaller <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Otter Wizard
Flash
You may cast noncreature spells as though they had flash.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, Birds, Frogs, Otters, and Rats you control get +1/+1 until end of turn. Untap them.
2/2

[green vigil]

[[Banishing knack]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/eve/17/banishing-knack

Banishing Knack <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Until end of turn, target creature gains ": Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand."
Suddenly he realized that everything was connected by invisible strings, strings that could be pulled—or cut.

[green vigil]

[[Retraction helix]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/a25/71/retraction-helix

Retraction Helix <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Until end of turn, target creature gains ": Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand."
Where the geometries of the world collapse, a master of the aether can harvest power beyond comprehending.

[wide quiver]

Yshtola in Brawl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw0NBdPbodg

[willow steppe]

Guys

I fixed my yshtola

She’s actually good now

https://archidekt.com/decks/14003174/yshtola_spellslinger_infect

[void grove]

I see infect in the name

I almost lost to someone giving someone else's yshtola infect

Was funny

[soft peak]

anyone have any nice cards for graveyard interaction?

[wide quiver]

[[szat's will]] is really nice

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/152/szats-will

Szat's Will <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Choose one. If you control a commander as you cast this spell, you may choose both instead.
• Each opponent sacrifices a creature they control with the greatest power.
• Exile all opponents' graveyards, then create X 0/1 black Thrull creature tokens, where X is the greatest power among creature cards exiled this way.

[soft peak]

that is neat

shame it's 5 cmc though

I'm running beseech the mirror so <=4 cmc might be best

I have [[Espers to Magicite]] right now but feel that'll be a dead card pretty often. haven't tested it yet tho

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/43/espers-to-magicite

Espers to Magicite <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Exile each opponent's graveyard. When you do, choose up to one target creature card exiled this way. Create a token that's a copy of that card, except it's an artifact and it loses all other card types.
"Come to me, my magicite pretty... come, and help me build the Magitek Empire of Kefka!"

[wide quiver]

I thought about that one

Szat's will is also a real good edict, which is nice

[willow steppe]

It is but it’s artifact storm

You either win through that

Draining out the table

Or

You just ugin

[soft peak]

Ya know the utility of being able to flash in some blockers with szats is probably worth it

Going to try it

[pallid ocean]

Sun titan XD

[void grove]

BBB in esper might be hard. Also being able to get the Bargain

[soft peak]

I got enough rocks the bargain isnt an issue really

[void grove]

Fair

I love beseech in general but unless I'm running mono black tokens I am nervous about it

I love it in a treasure deck

[soft peak]

the main purpose for it is to get [[tainted remedy]] in play

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ori/120/tainted-remedy

Tainted Remedy <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
If an opponent would gain life, that player loses that much life instead.
"Drink this, brother. It will bring you rest." —Liliana Vess

[soft peak]

im not running combos just turbo burn so

lifegain must be turned off immediately

[void grove]

[[demonic tutor]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/150/demonic-tutor

Demonic Tutor <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Search your library for a card, put that card into your hand, then shuffle.
Beware the generosity of demons.

[soft peak]

gamechanger right

[void grove]

True

[soft peak]

if I was above b2 I would just add combos

lol

[void grove]

I mean if you are turbo anything you aren't b2

[soft peak]

I played some public b2 and b3 games

b3 the deck was a step behind

it was not too strong for b2

its not as strong as it could be to be clear

i didnt put

sheoldred in

for ex

[void grove]

What I mean is b2 doesn't just mean no game changers

[soft peak]

wish it wasnt a $100 card jesus

[soft peak]

o yeah I know

[void grove]

Beseech itself in general doesn't feel like a b2 intent card

[soft peak]

I thought it might be b3 when i built it, but yeah tried some b3 games and it's not fast enough

all depends on what youre tutoring for

[pallid ocean]

B3 is a very wide range tho

[soft peak]

well i played 4 games and faced 12 different decks and there was maybe one that wasn't clearly faster

[void grove]

How fast is faster

[soft peak]

like I had to play the whole game on defense and never had a path to win

[pallid ocean]

That said, I think yshtola does better in a long game due to value engine

[void grove]

If you're winning before turn 10 it doesn't sound very b2

[pallid ocean]

Also worth noting burn decks tend to get archenemy ish

[soft peak]

oh im aware

[pallid ocean]

Since you generate aggro from everyone thus feeling behind

[soft peak]

my normal pod is allergic to attacking people so I put the game on a clock

its purposeful lol

one game I played a passive deck

turn 20

no one had died

:D

[pallid ocean]

What is everyone even doing

[soft peak]

I accept my role as the villain

[pallid ocean]

Boardwipe tribal

[soft peak]

top decking or sitting on a hand of counterspells and [[guile]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mm2/46/guile

Guile <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Elemental Incarnation
This creature can't be blocked except by three or more creatures.
If a spell or ability you control would counter a spell, instead exile that spell and you may play that card without paying its mana cost.
When Guile is put into a graveyard from anywhere, shuffle it into its owner's library.
6/6

[pallid ocean]

Play thrull

Teach them the fear of cannot be countered

[soft peak]

eh

taxes and burn are more fun

anyways the fastest this deck has won was t7 with best possible draw and zero enemy interaction

also wouldve been t8 but the rest scooped

most games do go to like t10 ish

[pallid ocean]

Bracket wise, I think tutors are fine in b3 if they aren't infinites

[wide quiver]

I kinda just don't love tutors unless they are very specific

[soft peak]

well

id rather run a tutor

than run [[grevious wounds]]

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “grevious wounds”

[soft peak]

in its place

[[Grievous Wound]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/102/grievous-wound

Grievous Wound <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant player
Enchanted player can't gain life.
Whenever enchanted player is dealt damage, they lose half their life, rounded up.
Vicky was so tired. The pain began to fade. "You were so brave," said her grandmother's voice from somewhere far away. "But it's time to rest now."

[soft peak]

people do not like this card :)

[wide quiver]

I'd rather run that lol

[soft peak]

everyone i play with hates it so much

[wide quiver]

It's not very good in commander though imo

Since you're just killing one person and making everyone else mad at you

[pallid ocean]

It does feel very targeted

That said I didn't mind that one curse that deals dmg whenever a creature comes into play under my control

I'm playing a token deck, it was very effective XD

[wide quiver]

Nice

[willow steppe]

Is this too much ramp

[pallid ocean]

Nah I meant it was cast on me

[willow steppe]

Yall

[pallid ocean]

It was understandable but I was dead quite fast XD

[pallid ocean]

Thran dynamo?

[willow steppe]

38 pieces of ramp :3

[pallid ocean]

Prob fine if youre playing artifacts

[willow steppe]

Well

40

It’s all artifacts

[pallid ocean]

Probably want lands too

Also need some way to convert all that mana into value

[willow steppe]

It’s running ophidean eye

[compact vine]

Man I can’t find a copy of Ophidian Eye anywhere

[void grove]

Plenty here in Europe!

I just bought two in case I ever run yshtola or vivi

[compact vine]

I’m in Canada 😦

[void grove]

Tutor our eye or curiosity then artifact storm sounds fun

Especially with cloud key type effects

[willow steppe]

You can run like drift of phantasm

To transmute tutor

It also gets tandeum lookout

[void grove]

Yeah I was thinking muddle the mixture

[[muddle the mixture]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/50/muddle-the-mixture

Muddle the Mixture <:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target instant or sorcery spell.
Transmute (, Discard this card: Search your library for a card with the same mana value as this card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle. Transmute only as a sorcery.)

[void grove]

Wait

That's 2

Uhh

What was I thinking of

Oh yeah it was drift

Also [[dizzy spell]] for curiosity

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/rav/43/dizzy-spell

Dizzy Spell <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Target creature gets -3/-0 until end of turn.
Transmute (, Discard this card: Search your library for a card with the same mana value as this card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle. Transmute only as a sorcery.)

[void grove]

Though in esper you can just use normal tutors lol

[willow steppe]

Honestly

I feel like imma just draw enough

Once I ping people down

I just wanna win with ugin

And exile everyone’s landa

[void grove]

Need to get the eye or curiosity first tho

But yeah after that if you can keep Yshtola alive it's a smooth sailing

[lusty igloo]

look at how superior we are

[void grove]

Vivi is kinda simple to brew

Yshtola is more varied

So, more discussion

Vivi is way way stronger

[willow steppe]

Ya ita like

When they released kinnan

And kinnan is broken

But basic

Yshtola is strong but u can do different angles

[maiden widget]

Why ramp when you can just use free mana spell

[wide quiver]

We have half the comments of the bumbleflower channel too

[maiden widget]

Ok so this week we have to bring all commander have partner to commander night

Who should I pair with yshtola

[soft peak]

[[liesa, shroud of dusk]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/286/liesa-shroud-of-dusk

Liesa, Shroud of Dusk <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Angel
Rather than pay for each previous time you've cast this spell from the command zone this game, pay 2 life that many times.
Flying, lifelink
Whenever a player casts a spell, they lose 2 life.
5/5

[maiden widget]

I was thinking

[[Grand Arbiter Augustin IV]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/221/grand-arbiter-augustin-iv

Grand Arbiter Augustin IV <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
White spells you cast cost less to cast.
Blue spells you cast cost less to cast.
Spells your opponents cast cost more to cast.
The Arbiter is a conduit of justice, a will so disciplined that it dispenses justice without ego or remorse.
2/3

[soft peak]

maybe something outside esper could be good?

like [[Black Waltz No. 3]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/214/black-waltz-no-3

Black Waltz No. 3 <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Wizard
Flying, deathtouch
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, Black Waltz No. 3 deals 2 damage to each opponent.
"You fool. Do I look like some lowly black mage soldier?"
2/2

[soft peak]

[[Rowan, Scion of War]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/woe/211/rowan-scion-of-war

Rowan, Scion of War <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Menace
: Spells you cast this turn that are black and/or red cost less to cast, where X is the amount of life you lost this turn. Activate only as a sorcery.
"No more days withering at a negotiating table with my brother. I will rebuild Eldraine myself—the old way, with power."
4/2

[soft peak]

green has [[keen sense]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/213/keen-sense

Keen Sense <:manag:292901508654301185>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Whenever enchanted creature deals damage to an opponent, you may draw a card.
Crovax sensed that Mirri wasn't ready for the curse taking hold of her. Weeping in his heart, he fled.

[soft peak]

👀

Also snake umbra, same thing but with totem armor

[elder lagoon]

“We”

My brother in christ you helped with that

[maiden widget]

Lol I was thinking that too but I didn’t want to mess with my land count lol

I was thinking Vivi or Ghyrson

[soft peak]

Vivi would be disgusting omg

Ghyrson you could pair with papalymo instead

Lmao

[void grove]

[[mirhril coat]] looks like excellent protection. 3 mana and flash

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/245/mithril-coat

Mithril Coat <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Legendary Artifact — Equipment
Flash
Indestructible
When Mithril Coat enters, attach it to target legendary creature you control.
Equipped creature has indestructible.
Equip

[willow steppe]

Yall

This deck is ao funny

[willow steppe]

https://archidekt.com/decks/14003174/yshtola_spellslinger_infect

Play test this deck

It’s actually my fav cook

[mild harness]

I was told all the cards I suggested would turn yshtola into stax

[compact vine]

This is Thancred but better

[willow steppe]

What did you suggest

[compact vine]

I was going to run Mithril Coat, but it’s better in my Nahiri deck

[mild harness]

This stuff

@willow steppe

[compact vine]

Yeah I don’t like that kinda stuff

Anything that makes the game unfun for my friends

[willow steppe]

It’s not stax

Ita group slug

Stax is preventing peoplr from doing something

[void grove]

I have one copy of it and I no longer use it so this feels like a perfect place

...if I ever build her

or Vivi I guess

[maiden widget]

Why blue have so many GC

That’s good for Yshtola

[willow steppe]

I mean Esper is good in general

[mild harness]

I’ve heard it called tax too

For some of the cards

[willow steppe]

It’s like tax

Kind of like rhystic study

[mild harness]

Yes

[willow steppe]

It doesn’t prevent people from playing the game

[mild harness]

I’m not denying you from playing

[willow steppe]

U just get advantage of people existing

[mild harness]

Just making it more costly for being greedy

At least that’s my logic

[willow steppe]

Ya it’s fine

It’s not stax

People who call it stax have never played against stasis locks before

[maiden widget]

My fav card to punish people is [[smothering tithe]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/57/smothering-tithe

Smothering Tithe <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent draws a card, that player may pay . If the player doesn't, you create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
"I await your donation." —Dasha, Orzhov priest

[willow steppe]

I mean stax is good if u are one sided

[mild harness]

The person who called it that used to do stasis chronotog stuff

[compact vine]

I mean you might as well be running Grand Arbiter if you hate your friends enough to run ALL of those though 😛

[willow steppe]

Like if u can thrive under stax

Run it

[maiden widget]

All I say is

[willow steppe]

Like I would run [[lethal vapors]] in enchantress yshtola

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/scg/68/lethal-vapors

Lethal Vapors <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever a creature enters, destroy it.
: Destroy this enchantment. You skip your next turn. Any player may activate this ability.
The vapors infiltrate every crevice, poison every lung, and snuff out every life.

[maiden widget]

“It’s esper what are you expecting

[mild harness]

Human tribal runs grand arbiter

[compact vine]

[[grand arbiter]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/voc/153/dovin-grand-arbiter

Dovin, Grand Arbiter <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Dovin
+1: Until end of turn, whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, put a loyalty counter on Dovin.
−1: Create a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying. You gain 1 life.
−7: Look at the top ten cards of your library. Put three of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
Loyalty: 3

[compact vine]

That’s… the wrong one

[maiden widget]

[[Grand Arbiter Augustin IV]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/221/grand-arbiter-augustin-iv

Grand Arbiter Augustin IV <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
White spells you cast cost less to cast.
Blue spells you cast cost less to cast.
Spells your opponents cast cost more to cast.
The Arbiter is a conduit of justice, a will so disciplined that it dispenses justice without ego or remorse.
2/3

[compact vine]

Yeah fuck that card

[maiden widget]

Hot take

This card is not deserve GC

[compact vine]

It’s anti-fun

It changes the game into a place of no joy

I care far more about having a good time with my friends than about winning though 😛

[maiden widget]

Honestly that’s like 70% of esper game play

[mild harness]

Games where everyone is playing solitaire for 45+ minutes with no interaction or punishment for playing value slop isn’t fun either imo

[compact vine]

Only if you make it that way

[maiden widget]

If I want to watch people combo for 10 mins without punish

I play yugioh

[compact vine]

Sounds like we play at very different tables

[mild harness]

Yeah

There’s nothing wrong with it

In what we want out of the game

[maiden widget]

I play style is very controlly protecting castle

[mild harness]

I’m just realizing I like games more where things actually get checked and don’t go runaway for 40 minutes

[maiden widget]

That’s why I love esper

[compact vine]

I just prefer when everyone at the table gets a chance to “do the thing”

[mild harness]

And that can happen even with heavy interaction

To an extent though it comes down to player knowledge and being tasteful in how you interact

Board wipes 3x back to back isn’t tasteful or fun

[compact vine]

Not when you’re running ALL of this it can’t 😛

[maiden widget]

My philosophy when I play esper is that if people don’t hurt me I don’t hurt them, I board wipe when stuff got out of control

[mild harness]

I had a lot of fun the other day playing group hug

I had twenty toed toad and was winning on my turn

[maiden widget]

I hold my black removal spell when people try to hurt me

[mild harness]

I lost though because I couldn’t stop someone from winning even with 6 interaction pieces

That was fun

Because it was mental gymnastics of trying to figure out the best things to blow up at the right times

[maiden widget]

I often whole counter spell when they target yshtola

Or when they cast their commander late game

Hold*

[mild harness]

Not trying to discredit your thoughts btw Lockhart, I get your thoughts

[willow steppe]

I feel like I don’t really have that issue

[mild harness]

All I’m trying to say is people want different things out of the game, and that’s fine

[willow steppe]

Most of my decks live in high b3 b4

[maiden widget]

People I play with is fine with me being esper Andy

Bc I often don’t win the 1v1 at the end lol

[mild harness]

Real

[compact vine]

My problem is I built a Tasha deck as my first ever deck, and my friends all told me it was extremely unfun to play against; so I took it apart. I don’t want to create an environment where people aren’t having fun, because that’s how I stop getting invited to game night

[mild harness]

That’s fair, that’s what communication is for

[compact vine]

I’ve also been on the receiving end of decks where they kick you in the nuts repeatedly and ask if you have the out

And fuck that

[mild harness]

Fair, the people I want to play with, they look at it and go

“Look at this dude” then kill me

[compact vine]

“You can just sac 8 things and not take this 60 burn damage on turn 4”

Then I look at my board of 2 permanents

[maiden widget]

Lol there is certain people literally counter yshtola when I cast her for the first time of the game

[mild harness]

Yeah that’s going to be annoying

[willow steppe]

What bracket do u guys enjoy playing at

[mild harness]

3-4

[wide quiver]

0

[mild harness]

Understandable

[maiden widget]

3

[compact vine]

2-3

[maiden widget]

4 at my shop is just cedh wanna be

[compact vine]

That’s all 4’s

[maiden widget]

2 is just a bunch of complainer

Unless we play precon

I love precon show down

[willow steppe]

I make all my decks to be high 3 or as strong or a 3 as I can

Does that make me a 4?

[maiden widget]

You have infinite or more than 3 GC ?

[willow steppe]

Just alot of tutor

But I tool box

It’s either that or I draw a lot

And only 3 gc

In all of my decks

[maiden widget]

Well lol I usually follow the 1-5 bracket system

[willow steppe]

They remove the tutor limits so

[maiden widget]

Yeah lol

Then you might be safe at 3

[willow steppe]

I get called a pubstomper when I play in b3 tho

[maiden widget]

But then people might be salty either way

[willow steppe]

But I can’t compete with 4 unless I play my actual b4 decks

[maiden widget]

Not to brag but I think my yshtola deck is a solid mid 3

[willow steppe]

Mine is too

It just falls to interactions

Like one vandalblast

[maiden widget]

3 mid GC, no unfair combo

My lose to any -X/-X spell lol

[willow steppe]

No 2 card combo

The only 2 card combo is like phyresis and yshtola

And I just storm off

[maiden widget]

The most unfair card in my deck is

Smothering tithe

[compact vine]

Im just glad people stopped using the 10 scale

Because fucking everyone said their deck was a 7

It was never a 7

[mild harness]

Now everything a 3

[maiden widget]

Eh

TIL you show me that 4th GC

Or that infinite

[willow steppe]

If I’m in aristrocrat

And I have infinites

Am I a 4?

It’s not 2 combo

It’s like 3 combo

Like the typical Warren soul trader grave crawler infinite

[fervent burrow]

Those are questions for #format-philosophy

[soft peak]

i think 3 combo is allowed in b2 even right?

[fervent burrow]

Strictly speaking yes, though a reminder that just because you're following the guidelines for a bracket doesn't mean you're in that bracket. My chatterfang will destroy B3 despite having 1 gamechanger.

[void grove]

I dont know how to build a 4 really

I guess its just combos and fast mana and tutors right

[willow steppe]

I legit cannot build a 4 without making it a cedh dexk or fringe cedh

[maiden widget]

Lmao just use your 3 deck add in 1 more GC

Then it become a 4 in technicality

[willow steppe]

Like it’s so hard to define power system

[maiden widget]

Yeah it’s also the competency of a pilot too

But that’s the whole other conversation that doesn’t fit this chat

[void grove]

Ok this thing looks like it could be funny [[ghoulish impetus]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/732/ghoulish-impetus

Ghoulish Impetus <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +1/+1, has deathtouch, and is goaded.
When enchanted creature dies, return this card to the battlefield at the beginning of the next end step.

[void grove]

It's like a better [[eye of nidhogg]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/44/eye-of-nidhogg

Eye of Nidhogg <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature is a black Dragon with base power and toughness 4/2, has flying and deathtouch, and is goaded. (It attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
When Eye of Nidhogg is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return it to its owner's hand.

[wide quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-pam-beesly-theyre-the-same-picture-the-same-picture-they-are-the-same-picture-gif-20830121

Oh I guess ghoulish impetus comes back to the battlefield

[void grove]

Ok so maybe a goad sub theme would be funny [[redemption arc]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/13/redemption-arc

Redemption Arc <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature has indestructible and is goaded. (It attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
: Exile enchanted creature.
Crime doesn't pay nearly as well as the Agency.

[wide quiver]

[[martial impetus]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clu/65/martial-impetus

Martial Impetus <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 and is goaded. (It attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
Whenever enchanted creature attacks, each other creature that's attacking one of your opponents gets +1/+1 until end of turn.

[void grove]

Ok so all the impetuses

Go super pillowfort

I can cook with this

[wide quiver]

[[duelist's heritage]] is great too

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/60/duelists-heritage

Duelist's Heritage <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever one or more creatures attack, you may have target attacking creature gain double strike until end of turn.
The best techniques outlive their creators.

[fervent burrow]

Goad subtheme works well since dmg triggers yshtola not the spells

If I get my draw I'm happy

[wide quiver]

Same

I've learned that I'll do anything to draw

[mild harness]

Anything?

[lusty igloo]

[lusty igloo]

3 & 4

i hate 2

I hate precons becuase I have to make a trash deck to play against them

(I have to have some involvement in creating my decks or I don't have fun)

5 is too meta-slavey for me

[mild harness]

I love precons for the fact they’re a starting point to build a deck, and are decent out the box

[void grove]

Ok so what do you guys think of pillowfort enchantress for Yshtola

So many good 3 cost enchantments out there

Feels more fair than running lots of free spells

Also makes protecting her funny

[[gift of immortality]] looks goddamn awesome

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ths/14/gift-of-immortality

Gift of Immortality <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
When enchanted creature dies, return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control. Return this card to the battlefield attached to that creature at the beginning of the next end step.

[fervent burrow]

I think there's 20 Yshtola themes thay are all completely viable and are better/worse depending on matchups. You can powerhouse near cedh Yshtola, stax yshtola, pillow fort, group slug, enchantress, artifacts... they just all work

[willow steppe]

[[dissapation field]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/718/dissipation-field

Dissipation Field <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever a permanent deals damage to you, return it to its owner's hand.
"Strike me once, shame on you. Strike me twice . . . Well, let's just see if you can." —Kara Vrist, Neurok agent

[willow steppe]

[[no mercy]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/95/no-mercy

No Mercy <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever a creature deals damage to you, destroy it.
"We had years to prepare, while they had mere minutes." —Kerrick, sleeper agent

[willow steppe]

[[solitary confinement]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/265/solitary-confinement

Solitary Confinement <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this enchantment unless you discard a card.
Skip your draw step.
You have shroud. (You can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you.

[wide quiver]

anything

[maiden widget]

Hey y’all I need suggestion for 2 cards to replace Vito and Emduring from my list bc they seem with without going infinite

My list is pin but I can repost them

[void grove]

oh god I need more of this

all-but-one creature board wipes

what 3-mana rocks are worth running?

[mild harness]

Besides [[brilliant restoration]] is there other similar mass enchantment recursion cards?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/7/brilliant-restoration

Brilliant Restoration <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Return all artifact and enchantment cards from your graveyard to the battlefield.
"We have done our best to heal this land together, but now I must entrust the future to my sister. She will carry our dreams onward into the sunrise." —Michiko Konda's journal

[void grove]

[[Replenish]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/uds/15/replenish

Replenish <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Return all enchantment cards from your graveyard to the battlefield. (Auras with nothing to enchant remain in your graveyard.)
Treasures, trinkets, trash—the relics of the past are brought forth again.

[void grove]

But it's pricy

[mild harness]

[[$replenish]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/uds/15/replenish

Prices for Replenish

World Championship Decks 2000

$34.43 • €32.33

Urza's Destiny

$117.00 • €74.50 • 9.11 TIX

[maiden widget]

[[blitzball]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/254/blitzball

Blitzball <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
: Add one mana of any color.
GOOOOAAAALLL! — , Sacrifice this artifact: Draw two cards. Activate only if an opponent was dealt combat damage by a legendary creature this turn.

[mild harness]

Chromatic lantern

[maiden widget]

I’m meme-ing about blitzball btw

People think I’m crazy about blitzball

[void grove]

ok I just need like 40 cuts and I'm there https://moxfield.com/decks/7x0hel_k70eFFCOB7PORKg

[lusty igloo]

What was that one 4 mana flash blue enchant,end from FF that disables a creature and also draws cards for tapped creatures?

That was mentioned in here

That was mentioned in here

[fervent burrow]

Oh I know ow

Uhhhh

[mild harness]

https://scryfall.com/search?q=otag%3Areanimate-enchantment+id%3Aesper+format%3Acommander&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name

[fervent burrow]

[[Observe stasis]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/113/observed-stasis

Observed Stasis <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Flash
Enchant creature an opponent controls
When this Aura enters, remove enchanted creature from combat. Then draw a card for each tapped creature its controller controls.
Enchanted creature loses all abilities and can't attack or block.

[lusty igloo]

Tyyyy

[fervent burrow]

Good use of otags what's the aim?

[mild harness]

Protection against board wipes

For enchantment based stuff

[fervent burrow]

Ahhh

[mild harness]

Ones a board wipe/Mass recursion

[fervent burrow]

[[Cosmic intervention]] is a good 2+2 investment

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/khc/3/cosmic-intervention

Cosmic Intervention <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
If a permanent you control would be put into a graveyard from the battlefield this turn, exile it instead. Return it to the battlefield under its owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.
Foretell (During your turn, you may pay and exile this card from your hand face down. Cast it on a later turn for its foretell cost.)

[maiden widget]

I love this card against Voltron’s player

Have yall ever consider [[esper to magicite]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/43/espers-to-magicite

Espers to Magicite <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Exile each opponent's graveyard. When you do, choose up to one target creature card exiled this way. Create a token that's a copy of that card, except it's an artifact and it loses all other card types.
"Come to me, my magicite pretty... come, and help me build the Magitek Empire of Kefka!"

[void grove]

[[norn's decree]] looks fun

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/onc/9/norns-decree

Norn's Decree <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever one or more creatures an opponent controls deal combat damage to you, that opponent gets a poison counter.
Whenever a player attacks, if one or more players being attacked are poisoned, the attacking player draws a card.

[fervent burrow]

Levi likes magicite

[fervent burrow]

I have propaganda now but I'm torn on it vs this

Propaganda protects my life better

But norn draws me a card

Life... or card...

[mild harness]

And also puts a target on your back for poison counters

[maiden widget]

Yeah I was kinda need a graveyard hate lol

[fervent burrow]

Okay you know what, I misread that as [[norn annex]] lol

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/829/norns-annex

Norn's Annex <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manawp:292901508826005515><:manawp:292901508826005515>

Artifact
( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Creatures can't attack you or planeswalkers you control unless their controller pays for each of those creatures.

[fervent burrow]

I just don't see decree working out enough

[void grove]

it encourages people to attack others

which reminds me

I need to add breena!

[maiden widget]

I’m happy with [[ghostly prison]] [[propaganda]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/116/ghostly-prison

Ghostly Prison <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Creatures can't attack you unless their controller pays for each creature they control that's attacking you.
"May the memory of our fallen heroes ensnare the violent hearts of lesser men." —Great Threshold of Monserkat inscription

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/108/propaganda

Propaganda <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Creatures can't attack you unless their controller pays for each creature they control that's attacking you.
"The cost of your opposition will be extracted from your wits." —Nekusar, the Mindrazer

[mild harness]

I think [[lightmine field]] is peak comedy

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/roe/32/lightmine-field

Lightmine Field <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever one or more creatures attack, this enchantment deals damage to each of those creatures equal to the number of attacking creatures.
If you want to kill a lot of goblins, just make sure your defenses look like fun.

[void grove]

[[witch of the moors]] playable here?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/152/witch-of-the-moors

Witch of the Moors <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Warlock
Deathtouch
At the beginning of your end step, if you gained life this turn, each opponent sacrifices a creature of their choice and you return up to one target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
Many hands for many evils.
4/4

[mild harness]

I’m curious

[[monastery mentor]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/125/monastery-mentor

Monastery Mentor <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Monk
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create a 1/1 white Monk creature token with prowess.
"Speak little. Do much."
2/2

[mild harness]

[[sedgemoor witch]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/stx/86/sedgemoor-witch

Sedgemoor Witch <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Warlock
Menace
Ward—Pay 3 life. (Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays 3 life.)
Magecraft — Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, create a 1/1 black and green Pest creature token with "When this token dies, you gain 1 life."
3/2

[maiden widget]

Eww creatures

In my noncreature spell deck

[mild harness]

Maybe? Depends on creature count and if you really need them to stick

[void grove]

40 cuts is hard

[fervent burrow]

I did the same, I was at like 180 a week before the set released 😦

[maiden widget]

Petition to make the limits for B3, 4 game changer

[void grove]

maybe I'll cut the courts then

ok my list feels a bit too focused on y'shtola

if shes removed enough I dont see a win con

[maiden widget]

Run some kinda indestructible hex proof stuff

[wide quiver]

That's why we run a ton of protection lol

[maiden widget]

And save some counterspell on removal that target her

[void grove]

Pls suggest cuts https://moxfield.com/decks/7x0hel_k70eFFCOB7PORKg

And also win cons

I guess goading everyone to kill each other is an option

[maiden widget]

Lyse

[void grove]

is that a cut or a wincon

[maiden widget]

Cut lol

[void grove]

WHAT

All our 3 mv noncreature spells costing 2 is huge

and shes a big damage output

[maiden widget]

Eh up to you

I never really going to combat with this deck

[void grove]

noncreature spell cost reduction is like a big thing

I would play her if that was the only text

[maiden widget]

Well I run mister augustin so lol

[void grove]

gross

[wide quiver]

I like lyse

[maiden widget]

My fav card from precon that I never cut [[papalymo]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/180/papalymo-totolymo

Papalymo Totolymo <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Dwarf Wizard
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, Papalymo Totolymo deals 1 damage to each opponent and you gain 1 life.
, , Sacrifice Papalymo Totolymo: Each opponent who lost life this turn sacrifices a creature with the greatest power among creatures they control.
1/2

[wide quiver]

Papalymo is great

Fun to say too

[maiden widget]

He’s practically Vivi

Without the unfair part

[soft peak]

If it were only instant and sorc I would cut

But making my mana rocks essentially free

Is huge

I initially cut her but shes back in

[maiden widget]

I might use this guy be partner commander for the deck this weekend ngl

[maiden widget]

[[force of despair]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/92/force-of-despair

Force of Despair <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
If it's not your turn, you may exile a black card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Destroy all creatures that entered this turn.

[maiden widget]

I learned about this card and it might be good haha

[wide quiver]

I'm running it

Not really a huge fan so far

I'm using this one lol [[!force of despair|SLD]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1936/force-of-despair

Force of Despair

[wide quiver]

It just kinda sat in my hand. I don't like removing creatures before I need to.

[mild harness]

I can see it here, I deal with a lot of value slop decks that spam creatures out in 1 turn

[maiden widget]

I only run it if I can find this exact SLD

[lusty igloo]

i got my butt beat by blink decks today. hard to deal with yorion + restoration angel i cant boardwipe them since they only appear at end of turn.

im removing single combat. it sucks. people getting to pick what they keep is just too terrible. im trying out leyline of anticipation. i wish i had more protection for y'shtola, the people i played against today did not let her live a single cycle once.

[void grove]

what 3 GCs are most important for yshtola

my feeling is free counterspells probably

but also bolas's citadel seems good

[maiden widget]

All the free counterspell

Smothering tithe, rystic study,

[wide quiver]

Pretty much any of them are generically good

[compact vine]

So it turns out I just HAVE a Delney

I wasn’t going to buy it because it’s expensive

Going through old boxes: found one XD

[wide quiver]

Score!

[compact vine]

Like holy shit haha

[elder lagoon]

Based

Drawing cards big fun

[wide quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/kaiba-drawing-card-gif-17544030238679436805

[green vigil]

Delney is probably the best card for the deck outside of combos

[elder lagoon]

Oooh, you can tell the animators play card games. That flick of the cards before drawing them was hot

[wide quiver]

Nothing better than handling cardboard

[willow steppe]

Guys

If I did like

Esper eggs

Like Esper 10 cost

Is it better to play noctis

[elder lagoon]

Yes

You wouldn’t trigger y’shtola basically ever

[willow steppe]

Now if I make enough cost reduced

I could then

[wide quiver]

Esper eggs and ham

[willow steppe]

I just want to play ugin

And thermal nuclear someone’s board

[elder lagoon]

Could do y’shtola big planeswalkers

That’d be cool

[willow steppe]

Idk if I wanna super friends

[soft peak]

superfriends yshtola could be neat

I was looking at [[professor onyx]] earlier

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/153/professor-onyx

Professor Onyx <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Planeswalker — Liliana
Magecraft — Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, each opponent loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
+1: You lose 1 life. Look at the top three cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest into your graveyard.
−3: Each opponent sacrifices a creature with the greatest power among creatures that player controls.
−8: Each opponent may discard a card. If they don't, they lose 3 life. Repeat this process six more times.
Loyalty: 5

[soft peak]

would work super well

[wide quiver]

Yeah, she's great

I run her in an all permanents deck lmao

[maiden widget]

I’m running her in Kuja deck

[maiden widget]

[[split up]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/32/split-up

Split Up <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Choose one —
• Destroy all tapped creatures.
• Destroy all untapped creatures.
"Don't be a wimp. We'll cover more ground this way." —Rian, former survivor

[maiden widget]

What do we think about this card ?

[soft peak]

at least in my deck I found there were several better choices

slaughter the strong, toxic deluge, Yahenni's Expertise, The Battle of Bywater, Promise of Loyalty, Single Combat
take your pick

[wide quiver]

I don't like split up here because yshtola has vigilance, so you can't control whether she's tapped or not

[soft peak]

I could see it if you're building around tapping opponents stuff

never built a deck like that yet personally

[maiden widget]

Toxic deluge is kinda bad no ?

[soft peak]

when you need the board wiped theres not really a better option for that cmc, x=3 catches a lot

I dont run it personally, i go yahenni's expertise instead, but deluge is probably just better for the versitility

[wide quiver]

Toxic deluge is great

Really cheap, lets you kill yourself

win win

It's cheap enough that it can allow you to recast yshtola if you kill her with it

[maiden widget]

If yshtola is like

2/5

I would run deluge

[compact vine]

This worthwhile?

[fervent burrow]

I mean it counts as 2 spells for +1 mana but I personally am quite fond of my spells

[wide quiver]

Yeah, usually you want to cast your own spells

[fervent burrow]

Would be nice if someone was already countering my spell I guess but probably not worth a slot in the deck I have 50 cards still in my "2nd chance" pile

[wide quiver]

Looks like dimir is getting a lot of artifacts and synergies in the works. I kinda want to build more artifact focused.

[compact vine]

Roger that!

[maiden widget]

[[flare of fortitude]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/26/flare-of-fortitude

Flare of Fortitude <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
You may sacrifice a nontoken white creature rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Until end of turn, your life total can't change, and permanents you control gain hexproof and indestructible.
"I call upon a power greater than myself."

[maiden widget]

This card sound good

[fervent burrow]

Teferi at home (for free)

[soft peak]

I run it

Its fun

I think if you want raw power its not great

But forcing me to sac something usually important to cast that in a pinch is a fun thing to have to consider

I run the blue one too

[[Flare of denial]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/62/flare-of-denial

Flare of Denial <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
You may sacrifice a nontoken blue creature rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Counter target spell.
"I see where you're going with that, and I don't like it."

[wide quiver]

Flares are goo

[maiden widget]

Nah

Flare is weird bc this deck doesn’t have creature

[wide quiver]

Yeah, they're clunky here

But I'd sac ysh if needed for a good effect

[fervent burrow]

Me when Yshtola is targeted with path so I sacrifice her to counter it 📈

[wide quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[soft peak]

Ive done this many times lol

Saddest thing is you dont get trigger from her when you need to sac her
Clunky for sure but fun

[soft peak]

I sacced her to save my talion once

Lol

Had mana to recast and desperately needed his draw

[maiden widget]

Bro the amount of time I got target with Path

Or sword of flowshare

[maiden widget]

Wait what if we

[[high noon]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/15/high-noon

High Noon <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Each player can't cast more than one spell each turn.
, Sacrifice this enchantment: It deals 5 damage to any target.
They both knew only one of them would walk away.

[wide quiver]

It's boros, so we can't

But there's another effect that's similar in just white iirc

[[rule of law]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/m20/35/rule-of-law

Rule of Law <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Each player can't cast more than one spell each turn.
The law is meant to ensure that people kill each other with only the utmost fairness.

[wide quiver]

[[arcane laboratory]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/7ed/60/arcane-laboratory

Arcane Laboratory <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Each player can't cast more than one spell each turn.
Too many wizards spoil the spell, but too many spells spoil the wizard. —Sign on entry to arcane lab

[wide quiver]

[[archon of emeria]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/znr/4/archon-of-emeria

Archon of Emeria <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Archon
Flying
Each player can't cast more than one spell each turn.
Nonbasic lands your opponents control enter tapped.
"Archons dispense justice according to an ancient, and flawed, premise." —Nissa Revane
2/3

[maiden widget]

I cut vito enduring and Bloodchief

Now I don’t know what to put in

[lusty igloo]

bloodchief cut? it's such an engine early tho

[maiden widget]

It’s just a removal bait most of the time

Without mindcrank it doesn’t do anything at high 3

And too mean in 2

[lusty igloo]

i added mother of runes and giver of runes

im paranoid of my yshtola dying

[maiden widget]

[[mother of runes]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/702/mother-of-runes

Mother of Runes <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Cleric
: Target creature you control gains protection from the color of your choice until end of turn.
"My family protects all families."
1/1

[maiden widget]

[[giver of rune]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/13/giver-of-runes

Giver of Runes <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Kor Cleric
: Another target creature you control gains protection from colorless or from the color of your choice until end of turn.
She provides marks of protection to those she chooses as family.
1/2

[maiden widget]

What if I play him [[zenos Yae]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/127/zenos-yae-galvus-shinryu-transcendent-rival

Zenos yae Galvus <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Noble Warrior
My First Friend — When Zenos yae Galvus enters, choose a creature an opponent controls. Until end of turn, creatures other than Zenos yae Galvus and the chosen creature get -2/-2.
When the chosen creature leaves the battlefield, transform Zenos yae Galvus.
4/4

Shinryu, Transcendent Rival
Legendary Creature — Dragon
Flying
As this creature transforms into Shinryu, choose an opponent.
Burning Chains — When the chosen player loses the game, you win the game.
"The heavens are too small a field for our dance. Let us transcend this mortal coil!"
8/8

[maiden widget]

As a board wipe

[quaint sinew]

Went ahead and did the thing, here's my take with Yshtolla https://moxfield.com/decks/fBwjnr5fVE6j511FPb_r-w

Went for more of a midrangey control strategy

[vital steppe]

was thinking...
dovescape ?

could be good right after a boardwipe/when you have enough control things out

killed the birds player through his own yesterday by casting 3 mana spells getting countered

[compact vine]

[[dovescape]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dis/143/dovescape

Dovescape <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manawu:292901508696113153><:manawu:292901508696113153><:manawu:292901508696113153>

Enchantment
( can be paid with either or .)
Whenever a player casts a noncreature spell, counter that spell. That player creates X 1/1 white and blue Bird creature tokens with flying, where X is the spell's mana value.

[void grove]

Basically counter all your own spells

[compact vine]

Not for me

[wide quiver]

It's only noncreature. Seems bad then.

[maiden widget]

lol I got the funniest card in my deck now

[[amphibian downpour]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/51/amphibian-downpour

Amphibian Downpour <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Flash
Storm (When you cast this spell, copy it for each spell cast before it this turn. You may choose new targets for the copies. Copies become tokens.)
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature loses all abilities and is a blue Frog creature with base power and toughness 1/1.

[wide quiver]

Yeah, it's great

I run it as well

[maiden widget]

OwO

I’m slowly become super evil with this deck

[compact vine]

No, I think you’re already there

[wide quiver]

Add in more stax effects

[maiden widget]

Don’t tell me

[maiden widget]

It’s ok bc I play bad card in the deck

I put in a card for ff14 flavor

[maiden widget]

I feel like now that I put [[grand arbiter augustin]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/221/grand-arbiter-augustin-iv

Grand Arbiter Augustin IV <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
White spells you cast cost less to cast.
Blue spells you cast cost less to cast.
Spells your opponents cast cost more to cast.
The Arbiter is a conduit of justice, a will so disciplined that it dispenses justice without ego or remorse.
2/3

[maiden widget]

I also need to add [[lyse hext]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/88/lyse-hext

Lyse Hext <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Rebel Monk
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
Noncreature spells you cast cost less to cast.
As long as you've cast two or more noncreature spells this turn, Lyse Hext has double strike.
2/2

[wide quiver]

[[lunar convocation]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/223/lunar-convocation

Lunar Convocation <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your end step, if you gained life this turn, each opponent loses 1 life.
At the beginning of your end step, if you gained and lost life this turn, create a 1/1 black Bat creature token with flying.
, Pay 2 life: Draw a card.

[wide quiver]

Only 2 mana, but it's interesting

[maiden widget]

I have this in my rare bulk lol

I was like

Having flying blocker is good

[soft peak]

I tried it and did not like it

My deck doesn't play much on my turn though. Probs better for others

[green vigil]

Ngl Gideon blackblade is low key good for casual play

[[Gideon blackblade]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/20/gideon-blackblade

Gideon Blackblade <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Planeswalker — Gideon
During your turn, Gideon Blackblade is a 4/4 Human Soldier creature with indestructible that's still a planeswalker.
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to Gideon Blackblade during your turn.
+1: Up to one other target creature you control gains your choice of vigilance, lifelink, or indestructible until end of turn.
−6: Exile target nonland permanent.
Loyalty: 4

[marsh solar]

[[Prototype portal]] could be interesting

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c18/216/prototype-portal

Prototype Portal <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
Imprint — When this artifact enters, you may exile an artifact card from your hand.
, : Create a token that's a copy of the exiled card. X is the mana value of that card.

[green vigil]

Well if your looking continously triggering yshtola this won't work

[marsh solar]

Oh right, not casting

Oops

[green vigil]

Yeah lol. Isochron scepter would but unfortunately only 2 or less lol

[[Panoptic mirror]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dst/136/panoptic-mirror

Panoptic Mirror <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Artifact
Imprint — , : You may exile an instant or sorcery card with mana value X from your hand.
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may copy a card exiled with this artifact. If you do, you may cast the copy without paying its mana cost.

[green vigil]

There you go

[soft peak]

what is the vision? Don't really see it

[soft peak]

[[!elite arcanist]] is an option

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/m14/54/elite-arcanist

Elite Arcanist

[soft peak]

someone cooked up a wacky 4 card combo for yshtola using him

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090306535504224398/1387934677335277759/image0.jpg?ex=685f2665&is=685dd4e5&hm=3768340ff2b65c9ab43b77146bff4e4207069a1bbfef82b563ca580542a18d82&

infinite yshtola triggers

[green vigil]

Giving yshtola lifelink and indestructible to freely attack/boardwipe/gain extra life from her triggers. Possibly being able to swing and trigger her that way. Also giving you a 4/4 indestructible swinger that can also trigger her

[soft peak]

recasting acrobatic maneuver with arcanist to blink priest of gix, which gives u 3 mana, and intruder alarm untaps elite arcanist

[elder lagoon]

Guys we did it we broke intruder alarm

[soft peak]

lol

[mild harness]

[[Forcefield]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/me1/157/forcefield

Forcefield <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
: The next time an unblocked creature of your choice would deal combat damage to you this turn, prevent all but 1 of that damage.

[maiden widget]

[[esper charm]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c18/179/esper-charm

Esper Charm <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Choose one —
• Destroy target enchantment.
• Draw two cards.
• Target player discards two cards.

[mild harness]

[[batwing brume]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/arc/80/batwing-brume

Batwing Brume <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manawb:292901509044109312>

Instant
Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt this turn if was spent to cast this spell. Each player loses 1 life for each attacking creature they control if was spent to cast this spell. (Do both if was spent.)

[mild harness]

[[no more lies]] [[requisition raid]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/221/no-more-lies

No More Lies <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target spell unless its controller pays . If that spell is countered this way, exile it instead of putting it into its owner's graveyard.
"Lies fester and flourish in shadow. Our job is to bathe them in light." —Ezrim, Agency chief

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/26/requisition-raid

Requisition Raid <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Spree (Choose one or more additional costs.)

• — Destroy target artifact.
• — Destroy target enchantment.
• — Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature target player controls.
  The Freestriders believe in liberation, in all its many forms.

[wide quiver]

Neither are 3+

Nor is batwing, decent fog though

[maiden widget]

Some day I wish Yshtola is Sulta

I need them ramp

But then I will miss my boardwipe

[soft peak]

rocks are plenty of ramp

[green vigil]

Batwing while not 3+ can still proc yshtola on a draw which is nice

[marsh solar]

Hey guys, sorry, but could I ask a favor? Could someone please link me to my message where I posted that proxy?

For some reason, I can’t find a search bar here

[wide quiver]

#1380962630499303434 message

This one?

OOOOR this one/

[marsh solar]

The one of yshtola

[wide quiver]

Ah, that reply is it then

[marsh solar]

Thank you!

[wide quiver]

I gotchu bud 🫂

[maiden widget]

Hey y’all I betrayed yshtola

I had so much fun with Kuja today I forgot to play a game with yshtola

[wide quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-sell-fresh-torches-protest-gif-11494201

You have failed to meet your Yshtola game quota

Prepare to be liquidated

[fervent burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/diane-morgan-mic-the-power-of-parker-power-of-parker-you-will-be-boiled-gif-1819860851845551437

[soft peak]

I played some mono blue Y'shtola last night does that count towards the quota

[compact vine]

Yes

[wide quiver]

Yes

[maiden widget]

Yall I won games with yshtola today

[void grove]

wow nobody had removal huh

I've never seen a yshtola win

I'm adding [[Withering Boon]] to my deck just for Y'shtolas

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mir/152/withering-boon

Withering Boon <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
As an additional cost to cast this spell, pay 3 life.
Counter target creature spell.
"Life for life: this is the immutable law." —Panya, Granger Guildmage

[void grove]

Aw just lost against a yshtola for the first time

He got all salty that I was playing an "OP bracket 4 commander" (Sephiroth) and convinced the table he was not a problem and I was, so every resource went into killing me and blowing up my board

then he clones yshtola and just casts like 4 spells to win

lmao

[wide quiver]

tbf, fuck aristocrats

[void grove]

whys that

The game made me think maybe I should run grave pact

fuck 'em

[wide quiver]

aristocrats and aristocrat loops are the most boring thing in commander

IMO obv

Now Gilbert Gottfried's aristocrats joke is hilarious (probably don't listen to it though)

[void grove]

I would have thought combos were the most boring thing

[wide quiver]

Aristocrats also combo a lot of the time

[maiden widget]

Honestly Esper is my fav playstyle

Fuck any other wincon lmao

[compact vine]

Teysa Karlov was one of the first decks I ever built - I played it exactly once before deciding it wasn’t for me

[wide quiver]

Build an original aristocrat deck challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[compact vine]

The good news is a bunch of the tech cards from that deck went into this one

Like Inkshield

I might throw in Black Market Connection as well, but I’m not sure

[wide quiver]

You should (if you have it)

It's just so good for multiple reasons

[compact vine]

I do have it. It was also in the Teysa deck haha

I’d just have to make room

[maiden widget]

I think I’ll be playing [[flawless maneuver]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/24/flawless-maneuver

Flawless Maneuver <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
If you control a commander, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Creatures you control gain indestructible until end of turn.
"Captain, your units are the tip of our spear. There is zero room for failure." —Jirina Kudro

[void grove]

Need help with cuts

going for annoying control enchantress https://moxfield.com/decks/7x0hel_k70eFFCOB7PORKg

[compact vine]

My borderless Y’shtola should be here tomorrow!

[compact vine]

Thoughts?

[fervent burrow]

It's not a bad card but is really expensive for the effect

For examnple [[ankh of mishra]] is half the cost and gets us the (probably?) more relevant side

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/vma/263/ankh-of-mishra

Ankh of Mishra <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
Whenever a land enters, this artifact deals 2 damage to that land's controller.
Tawnos finally cracked the puzzle: the strange structures did not house Mishra's malevolent creations but were themselves among his creations.

[compact vine]

Oh interesting! Didn’t know that existed

Was just going through my bulk XD

[fervent burrow]

I have the exact same printing and can't find myself to put it in

[maiden widget]

[[toxil, the corrosive]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/vow/132/toxrill-the-corrosive

Toxrill, the Corrosive <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Slug Horror
At the beginning of each end step, put a slime counter on each creature you don't control.
Creatures you don't control get -1/-1 for each slime counter on them.
Whenever a creature you don't control with a slime counter on it dies, create a 1/1 black Slug creature token.
, Sacrifice a Slug: Draw a card.
7/7

[maiden widget]

hmmmmm

What if

[compact vine]

Hmmmm

[maiden widget]

Who are you blinking ?

[compact vine]

This would be good with [[y’shtola Rhul]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/86/yshtola-rhul

Y'shtola Rhul <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Cat Druid
At the beginning of your end step, exile target creature you control, then return it to the battlefield under its owner's control. Then if it's the first end step of the turn, there is an additional end step after this step.
"As I suspected, the aetheric disturbance here is no natural occurrence."
3/5

[compact vine]

Gearhulk and/or Quistis

[maiden widget]

I don’t play either lol

[compact vine]

I run Gearhulk. Was thinking of Quistis since I run Rhul

Worst case scenario though, it can blink Sol ring 😛

[maiden widget]

Do we play this ?

[[mystic remora]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/59/mystic-remora

Mystic Remora <:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Cumulative upkeep (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, you may draw a card unless that player pays .

[wide quiver]

ew no

[green vigil]

I mean , if you can I would. Its one of the best blue draw engines in the game

[maiden widget]

How about [[lothos]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/213/fr/lotho-shirriff-corrompu-(lotho-corrupt-shirriff)

Lotho, shirriff corrompu <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Créature légendaire : halfelin et gredin
À chaque fois qu'un joueur lance son deuxième sort à chaque tour, vous perdez 1 point de vie et créez un jeton Trésor. (C'est un artefact avec « , sacrifiez cet artefact : Ajoutez un mana de la couleur de votre choix. »)
« Quels que soient les troubles dans la Comté, Lotho est derrière tout ça : vous pouvez en être sûrs. » —Pippin
2/1

[maiden widget]

Wait why is it Spanish ?

[soft peak]

Lotho is awesome

[maiden widget]

Is there a reason for the “ew no” ? Or is it just an unfun card to play against ?

[wide quiver]

It's just a generic staple

I mean, sure it's good here, but it's good in any deck that runs blue 🤷

[fervent burrow]

Got another art card in my gift bundle I ordered a while back

[soft peak]

[winter cipher]

Because in English it's [[lotho, corrupt]] and the only one that has s after Lotho is the spanish one

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/213/lotho-corrupt-shirriff

Lotho, Corrupt Shirriff <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Halfling Rogue
Whenever a player casts their second spell each turn, you lose 1 life and create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
"Whatever is wrong in the Shire, Lotho will be at the bottom of it: you can be sure of that." —Pippin
2/1

[high vine]

Edgar Markov Tribal Aristocrats Go xD

Or Caesar is kinda fun, cause he combines sacing creatures where with actually attacking 😂

[wide quiver]

New zurgo is cool too, or anything with the mobilize mechanic

[vital steppe]

bro it's french not spanish lol.
at least on my phone.

second one is english tho

[wide quiver]

Oh, I thought it was Chinese

[winter cipher]

I didn't read it, I was on my phone and assumed the person knew the language but yes, that's French

[compact vine]

So preeeetty. I’d love it in foil, but I’ll take this any day 🙂

[void grove]

I regret not buying the surge at 190

[maiden widget]

I’m so silly and didn’t realized that Delney also triggered tandem look out

Card is broken

[compact vine]

Yeah I still can’t believe I just HAD a Delney without realizing

[void grove]

Delney slaps

I've been wanting to find a deck for mine since I retired my hobbits and hare apparent decks

The more I try to build Vivi the more I feel like I'm just going to build Y'shtola

But I don't have a foil full art! How can I build a deck without the prettiest version of the commander

[fervent burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-my-drink-spongebob-squarepants-sad-disappointed-no-drink-gif-16243160

[wraith silo]

im starting from a pre-con and have torrential gearhulk in deck atm... is snapcaster just a better option?

what yall think

https://moxfield.com/decks/jTNs7X9bBEWV5B8dao222w
changes ive currently made. sideboard is stuff ive considered but havent swapped to or stuff ive swapped out to try other cards.

[fervent burrow]

I like Gearhulk because it casts for free but I wouldn't blame someone if they swapped em around. I want at least some big creatures to block for me

[fervent burrow]

Oh, decklists are all in pinned btw

[compact vine]

I love Gearhulk >_>

If you run Y’shtola Rhul he’s a lot of fun with her

[wraith silo]

i do. was jsut curious if yall thought snapcaster was better since it can target both instant and sorceries

[wraith silo]

any opinions on the upgraded pre-con i posted above?

changed somewhere between 5-10 cards on it 2day and want opinions

[maiden widget]

Only 10 instant ? Is it too low for this deck

[green vigil]

Depends on the instances and depends what they do

Yshtola doesn't care what it is as long as its noncreature of 3+ mana

[maiden widget]

Yeah but for this deck I like to have open mana and a bunch of instant to respond to threat

[green vigil]

You can always run [[vedalken orrerry]] and respond with everything

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/317/vedalken-orrery

Vedalken Orrery <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
You may cast spells as though they had flash.
The model incorporated the fifth sun effortlessly, as if it had always known.

[maiden widget]

I have [[leyline of anticipation]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/726/leyline-of-anticipation

Leyline of Anticipation <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
If this card is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
You may cast spells as though they had flash.

[maiden widget]

[[high fae]]

[surreal shoal]

Multiple cards match “high fae”, can you be more specific?

[maiden widget]

[[high fae trickster]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/40/high-fae-trickster

High Fae Trickster <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Faerie Wizard
Flash (You may cast this spell any time you could cast an instant.)
Flying
You may cast spells as though they had flash.
To the High Fae, spells that take a human years to master come as easily as breathing.
4/2

[maiden widget]

Well I guess [[teferi, time]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dom/270/teferi-timebender

Teferi, Timebender <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Teferi
+2: Untap up to one target artifact or creature.
−3: You gain 2 life and draw two cards.
−9: Take an extra turn after this one.
Loyalty: 5

[maiden widget]

Wrong

[[teferi, time raveler]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/232/teferi-time-raveler

Teferi, Time Raveler <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Planeswalker — Teferi
Each opponent can cast spells only any time they could cast a sorcery.
+1: Until your next turn, you may cast sorcery spells as though they had flash.
−3: Return up to one target artifact, creature, or enchantment to its owner's hand. Draw a card.
Loyalty: 4

[green vigil]

Those are great! I've been going back and forth between orrery and high fae. Trying to figure out if triggering yshtola or flash is better. Im really not coming up with anything aside from artifacts are slightly harder to remove than creatures

[compact vine]

Planeswalkers never manage to survive in my pod, but I’m considering [[tasha]]

[surreal shoal]

Multiple cards match “tasha”, can you be more specific?

[compact vine]

[[tasha the witch queen]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/294/tasha-the-witch-queen

Tasha, the Witch Queen <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Planeswalker — Tasha
Whenever you cast a spell you don't own, create a 3/3 black Demon creature token.
+1: Draw a card. For each opponent, exile up to one target instant or sorcery card from that player's graveyard and put a page counter on it.
−3: You may cast a spell from among cards in exile with page counters on them without paying its mana cost.
Tasha, the Witch Queen can be your commander.
Loyalty: 4

[compact vine]

Would go well with my Displacer Kitten and Y’shtola Rhul

[fervent burrow]

If I'm honest, I don't know if Tasha breaks the top 5 planeswalkers id want? I suppose she's some graveyard hate and draw

With displacer its certainly better but how does Rhul help?

[compact vine]

Was more for the free spells

Rhul also flickers

[fervent burrow]

Only creatures tho

[compact vine]

Oh shit true

[fervent burrow]

• if its endstep planeswalker can't be reactivated

[compact vine]

Did not know that, thank you

[fervent burrow]

If I'm in the 5 mana zone I'd rather be running [[prof onyx]] or such to allow magecraft to draw me a free card but depending on your blinkage it could be worth i suppose

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/153/professor-onyx

Professor Onyx <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Planeswalker — Liliana
Magecraft — Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, each opponent loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
+1: You lose 1 life. Look at the top three cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest into your graveyard.
−3: Each opponent sacrifices a creature with the greatest power among creatures that player controls.
−8: Each opponent may discard a card. If they don't, they lose 3 life. Repeat this process six more times.
Loyalty: 5

[fervent burrow]

(I know she's 6 but its close to 5)

We've got a nice amount of messages in this thread hadn't noticed

[compact vine]

Oh wow she’s pretty spot on for us

[wide quiver]

6 is a loooot of mana though

I run her in my deck that cheats permanents and I like her in there a lot though. Mostly for the -3 effect.

I think the teferis are higher on my list than her

[fervent burrow]

Yeah I have no PW in my list right now. Onyx is perfect but 6 mana in this deck can drain you for future turns/protection

[wide quiver]

^^

[fervent burrow]

Gearhulk is my only 6+ card and it has flash. The other 6+ are commandeer, treasure cruise, cards that aren't actually 6+ anyways

[wide quiver]

Yep. The only real high mv things I'd want have flash. Gearhulk, maybe hullbreaker. I really want to leave mana up for interaction and protection and a 6mv PW doesn't allow that really.

[fervent burrow]

I had hullbreaker in here and have no idea when I cut it- probably when I was trying to get creatures below 15 lol

[wide quiver]

I have a copy sitting around. Maybe I should plop it back in

I have [[shark tornado]] in my deck too, and I'm thinking I should probably cut it.

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “shark tornado”

[wide quiver]

[[shark typhoon]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/127/shark-typhoon

Shark Typhoon <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create an X/X blue Shark creature token with flying, where X is that spell's mana value.
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
When you cycle this card, create an X/X blue Shark creature token with flying.

[wide quiver]

It's funny though

[fervent burrow]

It is funny but Hermes is doing the same thing for me, just with weaker creatures. I suppose Shark triggers... but that 1 extra mana might really matter

It's one of those things, one is better in one game/hand, other is better in another

[wide quiver]

Yeah, I have both, and really should just cut one.

They are both for just making flying chump blockers really

[fervent burrow]

It's true id never swing my sharks anyways unless no one had creatures

In a ddck like this I'm too afraid of a surprise in combat haha

[wide quiver]

Yeah lol. I think I'll keep hermes in and ditch sharks.

[compact vine]

Gearhulk’s really good with Rhul and Displacer Kitten

[wide quiver]

True

Thoughts on [[V.A.T.S]] ? It's a little more expensive than other removal, but it can kill a lot of things at instant speed potentially.

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/pip/50/vats

V.A.T.S. <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Split second (As long as this spell is on the stack, players can't cast spells or activate abilities that aren't mana abilities.)
Choose any number of target creatures with equal toughness. Destroy the chosen creatures.
The Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System redefines combat. Get your V.A.T.S. today!

[wide quiver]

And it's split second

I don't know how I feel about [[lorien revealed]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/60/lórien-revealed

Lórien Revealed <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Draw three cards.
Islandcycling (, Discard this card: Search your library for an Island card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.)
"Look on us now with friendly eyes! Behold the trees of the Naith of Lórien and be glad!" —Haldir

[wide quiver]

You usually island cycle it and draw with it as a last resort