#Y'shtola Communal Brewing
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im looking for "your life total cant change" effects
solitary is close neough
[[platinum emperion]] lol
I forgot his stupid name
[[bryson stout]]
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Legendary Creature — Tyranid Human
Ward
(Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays
.)
Three Autostubs — Whenever another source you control deals exactly 1 damage to a permanent or player, Ghyrson Starn deals 2 damage to that permanent or player.
3/2
Him lol
[[tainted remedy]] seems like a funny counter to drain
i have to think about paintful quandary
right
One of my friend tempted to put this card in to counter me
Lmao
[[Lich]]
Enchantment
As this enchantment enters, you lose life equal to your life total.
You don't lose the game for having 0 or less life.
If you would gain life, draw that many cards instead.
Whenever you're dealt damage, sacrifice that many nontoken permanents. If you can't, you lose the game.
When this enchantment is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, you lose the game.
we dont have enough permanents
i wonder if it goes in my aristocrats deck
maybe not
yeah nvm
10 dmg = 10 permanents
i cant sustain
im thinking about dropping [[Victory Chimes]]
yeah fair
it actually puts in work tho
besides chromatic lantern, any other rocks im forgetting?
lowkey [[the tabernacle at pendrell vale]] would be rly gud for me and fish's deck
mox amber?
[[$mox amber]]
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I want to pick up [[fierce guardianship]]
corrupt shirriff?
yeah
Legendary Creature — Halfling Rogue
Whenever a player casts their second spell each turn, you lose 1 life and create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with "
, Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
"Whatever is wrong in the Shire, Lotho will be at the bottom of it: you can be sure of that." —Pippin
2/1
smothering tithe would be sick here
it's op
yeah smothering is better than rhystic imo
for b3 y'shtola
honestly
b4/b5 rhystic is broken obv
may tear apart gonti and bumbleflower to work more on yshtola
gonti is because nobody likes mid theft
and bumbleflower is starting to become not fun
I have smothering, notion thief and bolas
if you steal someones commander can you put it in your command zone
Bc I’m poor lmao
no
i see
is notion thief even better than narset
[[notion thief]]
she procs yshtola, gets more stuff that procs yshtola with her ability
[[alms collector]]
lol
and doesnt die to your one sided board wipes
Honestly bc it’s cheap
you have narset lol
"ill brainstorm"
"flash in alms collector, draw 1 and top 2"
and they're both cheap
im just wondering why notion thief over narset
Notion thief is hot I guess
[[narset, parter]]
[[notion thief]]
Look at him he’s hot
he looks hunchback
id run narset personally because 1 mana cheaper, mono colored meaning easier to cast, and is card selection
only downside is more easy to remove
his head is sunk into his body
ok that one's better art but he's less hot
?
I’ll play him til I get fierce guardian

If you into sugar daddy
i have a comment but im not getting banned
I don’t have money like that
sorry, i was mainly just rambling about that
i need to go to bed, i gotta help my roommate in the morning
gn!!
goodnight guys, thanks for the ideas
I’d rather Inkshield
Anyone got any recommendations on what i should remove?
I know i want to add some lifelink to her whether that be shadowspear and steel of the godhead or something else
Reapers scythe just seams fun to play 🤣🤣
Talent of telepath is something im considering since it can be inconsistent even tho it can also really pop tf off
Sorcery
Target opponent reveals the top seven cards of their library. You may cast an instant or sorcery spell from among them without paying its mana cost. Then that player puts the rest into their graveyard.
Spell mastery — If there are two or more instant and/or sorcery cards in your graveyard, you may cast up to two instant and/or sorcery spells from among the revealed cards instead of one.
Ye ye i was thinking that also
Im newer to commander but idk how much burn people would want to play on this deck. I would rather play some cards that let me copy my commander to double trigger that damage and get two cards drawn or enchantment cards that let you draw cards whenever creature damages an opponent
I think i mighta saw someone post it here before but i like [[Ankh of Mishra]]
At least that way only one non creature cast triggers it
Or [[sheoldred the apocalypse]]
but that is expensive
I saw some cards that punish sacrificing/tapping artifacts
if ur playing bracket 4 you should cuation away from expensive cards like Season of Weaving which dont really do anything. probably need more cheap counterspells like force of will, force of negation, etc.
shadowspear seems troll in b4. i'd add a lot more tutors. consider the transmutes. thassa's oracle without demonic consultation and tainted pact is strange. bolas citadel probably wants sensei's top to combo off of it. idk how tryhard your bracket 4 pods are, but in mine cards like exsanguiate are just too casual
Do you guys think it's sensible to run a lot of 3 mana rocks or stick with the more efficient 2 mana ones
a mix of both is fine
dont run too many 3 mana rocks i think
i just use decanter and victory chimes atm
[[misleading signpost]] is good
yeah idk this decklist seems like it's a b3 posing as b4. i think you'll be blown away by early infinite combos and things like lifelink wont save you
Can yshtola be reasonable bracket 3 though? I feel like it's such a removal magnet and so much of the deck revolves around her
You need free counter spells to really protect her well
There is plenty of protection that isn't free you can and should use
spellskite and boots are good too
she only needs 1 turn vulnerable anyways
and often frmo my games so far people arent considering her KOS yet
i think that might change with time
Kaya's ghostform, gift of immortality, blessing of leaches, etc
Yeah I posted it. And run it fairly well in high 4s bracket decks. Its honestly an mvp so far. A single fetch or shock lands untapped will turn this i to a yshtola draw. Also any land enables you to only need to cast a singular spell.
Yeah it looks like it would work really well
Any cards you play surprised you with how well they work? Or are performing a lot better than you initially expected?
I shouldn't have been surprised, but Emet-Selch was insane
Sigil of sleep is probably the card that has done the most work with the least amount of expectation.
Sigil of sleep seems soooo oppressive
I'm not going to include it because of that lol
Also norns annex has been the best stax piece so far. Most people opt to take damage than use mana which in turn gives card draw.
And delney is the real super hero. Double damage output , lifegain and card draw has been crazy
Yeah it's fantastic. Being able to bounce at instant speed regardless if they cou ter my spell or not is fantastic
Yeah, it's [[hullbreaker horror]] but for one mana, and you bounce 3 things
Creature — Kraken Horror
Flash
This spell can't be countered.
Whenever you cast a spell, choose up to one —
• Return target spell you don't control to its owner's hand.
• Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.
7/8
Permanents only, but it's very strong
Speaking of which
Does anyone have any suggestions of ways to like punish people for playing the game
the games where i have resolved Sigil of Sleep have felt amazing (for. me) and i think others at the table really hated it
Just noticed the precon doesn’t have Felwar Stone or Lightning Greaves
Should those go in?
i skipped greaves because i haver a number of auras for shtola and not always any other creatures in play. went for counter spells to protect instead
but if you are not going the curiosity, etc route, greaves would be awesome
Honestly, I prefer instant speed protection
Which is why I like [[blessing of leeches]]
would allow you to interact, is not 3 cmc, so just depends on how bad you want hexproof 🙂
yeah i need to put blessing in my deck
Holy shit I’ve never seen this
the more i play the deck, the less i want other creatures in it lol
i got to sublime epiphany a Liliana ultimate last night... felt soo good
i always want that in my deck, and then never want to play 6-mana do nothing pass
Yeah, we really want to hold up our mana
i did end up losing that game last night to a 40 damage ziatora fling to the face though 🫠
Would you mind posting your decklist?
I didnt even know about this card DAMN
I don’t even think triome is needed
It’s not for super casual pods
It’s pretty oppressive as well as helm of the ghastlord
It's really oppressive
Idk if yshtola can ever be considered a casual commander to bring to strangers
yeah, my experience is that her play patterns are pretty groan inducing
While not vivi level, she does encourage some high power play patterns
i played a meme game with 3 yshtolas an an ur dragon, and the non-shtola hated his life for that 75 minutes
If they were playing ur-dragon, they deserved it tbh
nah, they switched to ur dragon after we all decided to play ysh
they attacked with exactly 1 dragon the whole game
Tbf, that’s a terrible matchup
Yshtolas has so much targeted removal and the only player with creatures is ur
A 4 player yshtola game would be a lot of fun
More fun than 4 vivi for sure
in practice we just kept trading 2 life pings and helping each other draw our whole decks
ill hit you with my ysh, so we can all draw etc etc
What people don’t realize until they build her is how many cheaty black targeted removal there is
It’s actually more than the cheaty blue stuff
Like double
Ankh of Mishra and painful quandary have been suggested. Vile Consumption. Bloodchief Ascension is top tier early. Kambal, Consul of Allocation. I also like board wiping everyone but my ystola over and over personally but creatures players might not have fun lol
Reminds me that I need dismember
the tabernacle at pendrell vale if you can afford 3K on a single toxic card
the only time i resolved bloodchief it got removed asap
I need a lot of the non ff cards still
a 1 mana enchantment getting removed asap is surprising to me
I like lotho
ig it didnt come out turn 1
staff of compleation is an easy way to always trigger yoru draw if you dont mind hurting yourself
It does a lot in theory
lotho just doeds a lot always
The deck doesn’t need more self dmg
It does a very good job at being a suicide deck
its a good one if you ever find yourself without spells to cast
Can confirm
I’ve done the categories on my list
A good quarter can shock me
Or bolt
Mdfcs are a thing
bolt mdfcs are great here yeah'
unless you love FFXIV im a strong proponent of ignoring the precon
The precon is pretty decent
I’m prob the only flavor list here iirc
I do love XIV haha
oh lol
Thousands of hours in it
well first thing is to add some curiosity lines
The precon isn’t bad if you remove like the 20% that isn’t synergy
for some reason the precon couldnt be bothered to add a single curiosity effect
Same
@pallid ocean i really wanted it to be a ff14 deck, but it just doesnt quite fit. i want to also build a scions deck with graha at the helm, and i think you could make that a lot more 14-coded
Too powerful
i disagree
Guys
GNB main 🙂 you?
Yshtola draws enough
WAR but I’ve done all tanks
iirc precon had 20+ creatures and 8 instants lol
lol whats a main...
Niiiiiicr
It’s balanced around the 4 precons tgt
What you’d prefer to play in savage progression/ultimates 😛
ok but i have like 6 creatures in my deck so 22 is still creature focused to me
Actual creature focused decks are 30+
Unfortunately some of the FF cards are doing completely different things
The very small dragons/scry theme for one
wat
Yeah the boardwipes are weird
Hraesvelgr and crux of fate didn’t need to be included
They did it for flavor
And Estinien shouldn’t be dragons matter. If anything, he should have deathtouch against dragons
Sorry, ESTINIEEEEENNNNN* (he’s the Azure Dragoon)
I was just reminded that [[realm-cloaked giant]] was in the bumbleflower precon lol
Yeahhhh, but it just makes him not fit in the deck at all this way
Yeah, eye of nidhogg is neat
I still rock Eye, yeah
It’s not amazing but it’s good enough for the flavor cut
A lot of the hero equipment is cool too
I use ninja blades and reaper’s scythe
I also really like [[observed stasis]]
Not dancer chakram?
Oh! I use that too, yes
I’ve been hesitant since 4cmc is just 1 too high
DNC chakram is probably the most fitting job select, comparable to what it does in game
It’s also a ton of life gain for the suicide deck
I shut down my friend the other day from it, and drew 4 cards
i actually like that a lot too
would it go over amphibian downpour?
Can someone look at my list and gimmie recs
I run both
Part of me wants to play Venat, even though she’s not suuuuper great for us
Different imo
Amphibian doesn’t shut down commanders as much
Stasis gets better if you run [[blind obedience]] along with consuls
Since the frogs can block
Stasis is slightly closer to an oubliette
with a lot of potential draw
But costing more mana
The competition imo is [[darksteel mutation]]
You only need to oubliette the thing that's attacking you
Yeah, but that doesn't trigger ysh, and isn't an instant
It is probably the best effect though?
Oubliette is good though
It's the og
that looks so toxic lol
I tend to compare the the best version since that's the usual competition for the slot
[[kenriths transformation]]
im going to buy observed stasis and see how it performs
Theres the other green one that's the bis, song of the dryads I believe
I liked it in my game alpha
It's very good if your pods has creature heavy decks
I think it gains a lot of power being instant too
should i remove stock up for it? it's a draw spell i guess
@compact vine https://archidekt.com/decks/13780268/endwalker
are you guys running stock up
Imma try to proc yshtola thru just burn
My more flavor focused list
I've been debating whether to tone down the power slightly for more flavor tho
I want to fit dark confidant in there
[[dig through time]] is like stock up, but instant and not like $12
It's also in the precon iirc
sorcery does suck
Or was it treasure cruise
Indeed it is in the precon
It is
It's just not suited for b4
while not exactly powerful, i resolved [[Whip of Erebos]] last night, and gaining 8 life with each spell case was pretty sweet
Legendary Enchantment Artifact
Creatures you control have lifelink.


,
: Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step. If it would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else. Activate only as a sorcery.
Not having "the best" suite of cards does not a bad precon make
I think people playing more casually should take advantage of the precon more
Oh yeah, I didn't consider whip because it's not a creature deck
But it's a pretty good static lifelink effect
I think I'd still run chakrams over it
I run dancer chakram and glasswing grace as my current lifegain options
Mostly because I don't want to become a lifegain deck
Tempted to run [[exquisite blood]] since I have 2 copies iirc but it does have bad connotations to 2 card infinites
Yeah if you just play that standalone, I'm getting the rest of the table to kill you lol
i mean this deck + exquisite/sanguine would be so easy to pull off
Yep
All the classic 2 card lifegain infinites are very easy to include
But they are very boring and unfun to play with and against
That's a pricy card but very strong pillowfort
Same with dissipation field
I just run propaganda and ghostly prison tho, since those aren't as unfun
its not the strongest combo, but i had [[Queza, Auger of Agonies]] laying around and put them in, if you get curiosity on ysh, it just mega drains. got one kill with it
No card found for “Queza, Auger of Agony”
[[queza augur of agonies]]
lol thanks. won the game with an into the story cast
Huh nice creature types
There is also a 3 card infinite if you play bolas citadel, papalymo and sensei's top, heard from alpha iirc
It also works for wizard tokens if you get lifegain on them
But it's nice it doesn't infinite with yshtola since that's basically a 2 card combo then
Bloodletter of Aclazotz fraudulent i think. if you're playing lots of instants and holding onto mana for interaction, lots of your damage comes from enemy turns
Creeping Bloodsucker idk about. it not doing 2 dmg is pretty suspect. i think Sygg, River Cutthroat is better for 2 drop
I'm not sure how I feel about the life-gain life-loss stuff. you might find yourself getting targeted with things like [[Wound Reflection]] and [[Court of Ambition]] on the field. and they're kind of pricy in mana cost. Imo I'd cut a little bit on the weaker enchantments to more y'shtola core cards. things like free cmc 3+ spells (the 3 free commander spells for example like deadly rollick, Frantic Search, force of negation, etc).
i think you need more protection. you almost have no protection for your y'shtola. and she's going to be the target of lots of removal. at least consider swiftfoot boots and spellskite. im not sure why we picked cleaver concealment of all cards - the problem with it is that while you're phased out you don't get any y'shtola procs
it works with sheoldred too
Clever concealment is better if they run a ton of auras
it doesnt kill with sheoldred it just makes you live long enough to find clones/delneys/etc
then that'll kill eventually
This was here initially ux I was doing enchantress
But I found I had no wincons I. Enchantress
Phasing out is better if you run a ton of auras/tokens
Since they don't fall off unlike bouncing
Back to the cook I go
yeah ik about the auras but what is it rly saving you against besides like a farewell. i think mass enchantment removal is less likely than a yshtola removal
idk
it is free ig
17 creatures isn't too bad for it imo
That said, I like phase out in my pods since there's quite a lot of exile based removal
do you think there are too many cards in the drain section
i cant tell how a deck plays unles si goldfish it 10 times lol
I can tell from the card choices
My pod has a few lifegain lists so im familiar with the staples
I will say that's there's very little protection for an yshtola deck tho
It's alot more removal
is not running a single basic a bad idea
even with no fetches?
Easiest example [[path of exile]]
No card found for “path of exile”
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@willow steppe id probably run some basics
starting town seems fraudulent here
we're not a turbo cedh deck
and it enters tapped most of gmae
That cards price is absurd
Ik cause I had to get one for my wandering minstrel...
Don't even think the surveil lands are all that amazing in yshtola
a lot of mid-range cedh discords are musing about not running starting town. i dont think we should run it the chances it's a tapped land is rly high
Other than being a fetchable
Its basically a painland
Huge fan of [[horizon of progress]]
oh wtf they're on fetches
well if budget isnt a concern then i'd run more than the 3 you currently have
wtf
Their list looks budgetless
It's way above that
so it's not budgetless
FF prices are fked
I use CK prices since all our trades here based on CK 0.9-1 usually
im still waiting to buy in on surge foils for my commanders y'shtola and celes..... im waiting for ATLA release it's that bad
i'm not spending 1k on 2 cards
I THOUGHT I pulled three starting town: turns out I only pulled one
Yea, don't bother
So it’s going in Y’shtola
Price is so fked, I wouldn't touch with a 100 feet pole
i just complained about stasrting town im a hater on non-turbo decks or 4+ colors
Wandering Minstrel’s gonna have to go without >_>
Just play in minstrel
Oh interesting. Yesterday when I asked, everyone told me it was an auto include
only untapped turn 1-3.... 80% of the game is afterwards
Whether it's mandatory, I disagree
I do have 2/3 battle bonds for her at least
i've never once had issues with colors in my lands
No Raffine’s Tower yet
I'm glad that the shocks I need are being reprinted in EOE
i mean if you're going FF themed might as well
i like it flavor-wise
Only have hallowed fountain rn
I don't even like the triomes for her
It's very slow
I rather a basic
I’m still mad we didn’t get Sea of Clouds in the precon. It’s a PLACE IN XIV
Ah fair
Money
I’m pretty new at this. Only deck I’ve built is Nahiri. And Chatterfang, but that was a precon that needed very few upgrades
I wish that lousoix sacrifice was a teferi protection reprint
I wish Louisoix sacrifice had a borderless of the cutscene
It's very on theme both flavor and mechanic wise imo
The joke is also that imprisoned in the moon should've been there
But it's technically a spoiler....
There's even 2 beings in moons
I mean Papalymo’s effect and Lyse even existing as a card are spoilers
yeah im about to drop raffine
ive never fetched for it ever
I don’t own fetch lands
Im probably running only 1 surveil land and it's cause I own one
It's also very slow
What’s an example of a surveillance land?
[[shadowy backstreet]]
Heh
Ohhhhh
I think you only run 2 at most
Since you only fetch them once in a while
I like that it's an option but they aren't worth the cost or do I think they substantially improve the deck
For yshtola pains are good yea
im not sure why im on pathways over pains
Both budgetwise and as a source of 4 dmg
oh well i dont have mana problems so whatever
I don’t know if I like trading 4 life for one draw though. And it only gets you that draw if you haven’t already dealt 4 damage to someone else
It's just that, an option
Then again, I’m also playing Y’shtola Rhul, so my advice isn’t great haha
There aren't a ton of consistent self dmg tbh
It's mostly the signets and various painlands
The rest tend to be shocks, bolts from MDFCs and phyrexian mana etc
Also worth noting if you run emet/krikk
Fair
I like Y’shtola Rhul. But I also run Torrential Gearhulk and Fandaniel, and might throw Quistis in
Grafting exoskeleton/phyresis?
ya but more fetches r better too. i run like 6 or 7 or something. deck thinning and get whatever you need
idk if there's enough infect cards to have it as a main strategy
Would you mind listing them so i can see them?
Dont really know those cards
I mean I can run tutors
I’m in Esper
it's phyresis, Glistening Oil ? and wat
just going to have to build the deck to be able to kill in 1-2 turns once the infect goes on. since putting that phyresis on her you have all 3 people's attnetion on you and your y'shtola. or a lot of pillowfort/defense. need a lot more protection too
idk if the deck would work unless i see it built and playtest it
[[Sicily of sleep]]
No card found for “Sicily of sleep”
sigil
Autocorrect
lol
[[digit of sleep]]
No card found for “digit of sleep”
There’s tainted strike
Vraska down fall
Prologue to phyresis
Flux channeler
Tezzeret gambit
Phyresis outbreak
Grafted exoskeleton
hmmm it looks possible
[[vraska down fall]]
No card found for “vraska down fall”
have to definitely build more control playstyle with infect. be rdy to be archenemy
I mean it’s only possible if we go bracket 4 tho
y'shtola can win 1v3 as archenemy for some reason. some of my stronger decks cant
is it?
y? not enough tutors?
Thoughts?
Just a quick list
I need to find
More frantic search affects
I don't think flux channeler to proliferate poison is worth
[[unwind]] and [[rewind]]
and [[snap]]
If you meant spells that refund
Trying to see how to make infinite mana
To storm thru my deck
there is a teferi loop, i know that
that doesnt even give infect ocunters tho
snap i mean
Yeah, but it's a card similar to frantic search
@willow steppe papa is a famous holder for curiosity + phyresis that does it better than y'shtola. so probably should be on him
can consider alternate wincons. what's the 2 mana artifact that combos with bloodchief. and mayhbe bolas citadel + top + sheoldred/papa also wins
i think a little too much ramp. from a few goldfishing at least i feel like it's a bit much. i also think mox amber should be in.
we're missing the white free commander spell. i'm also a shill for waterlogged teachings... can use as a counterspell (fierce guardianship), an ophidian eye, removal (deadly rollick), etc. counts as 2 for ur storm if tutoring free card.
i think you still need to fix your mana base
just too many times the lands are forced to be tapped
Arcane Sanctum has to go. add at least 3 more fetches
[[The cruelty of Gix]]
Enchantment — Saga
Read ahead (Choose a chapter and start with that many lore counters. Add one after your draw step. Skipped chapters don't trigger. Sacrifice after III.)
I — Target opponent reveals their hand. You choose a creature or planeswalker card from it. That player discards that card.
II — Search your library for a card, put that card into your hand, then shuffle. You lose 3 life.
III — Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control.
Ya I’ll prob add other fetches
Do yall think this is worth it for an extra tutor?
no
[[Yahenni's Expertise]] interesting sweeper I just came across
just get a tutor lol
Huh, that is interesting
I is pointless in multiplayer format. III is niche in y'shtola.
just grim tutor
and idyllic
Already have both of those
and transmutes
Just wondering if it was worth it with other cards lowering the colorless cost for non creature spells since it acts like a tutor and could let me play a creature from another plays graveyard
Ill look into transmutes
yeah i playtested and it was too many
id also run this maybe? to tutor for your infect cards
I think it’s better now
I guess
I can just do wheels
And just always tutor for smothering tide
And just wheel everyone
Until I hit my wincon
Honestly
It’s something I thought
Might be good
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm is there anything to show/tell besides omniscience?
im not even sure omniscience wins the game spot on does it?
my problem is that both omniscience and show/tell are dead cards in your hand without the other two
I took it out
i like bolas citadel / top more since they're both useful on their own and do win the game on spot
It doesn’t let me draw more cards
also are we against mindcrank + BCA since we fear graveyard and breach decks?
I mean I’m wheeling people alr
mindcrank and blood chief ascension is pretty low mana for a killing combo i think. maybe consider
since we already have BCA
i dont think so
mindcrank is dead in hand tho
well i guess thoracle is dead in hand too without the other half
u have Echo of Eons tho
probably add the 3rd best curiosity? the 4 mana discard one. it's a stretch but i feel like we're missing draws and free spells
rewind + Flawless Maneuver maybe
what is Turnabout for
once you fix your manabase you can probably play reliquary tower
It’s more ways to untap
oop
i only read first half
imo we are on too many cmc 3+ cards for isochron scepter
It’s procs yshtola tho
wat
The 3cmc
no i mean isochron scepter should leave
it's going to be dead card often
we dont have many 1-2 mana instants
i wrote a lot of hate about him earlier since i think clones are better than him usually, but maybe go back to roaming throne?
if it was 3 mana id add
4 infect for 1 spell is nothing to sneeze at
and 2 draw
but for bracket 4 i think we have to drop
swiftfoot boots?
does the deck support yawg's will?
im also kind of suspect of tainted strike in b4. are we relying on enemies and using it on their attacks?
I mean
All the wheels discard
Besides exhoes
It works on her deal damage trigger
It’s like an instance of giving something infect like glis oil
yeah but still like it'd only kill if they're already at high infect, and that would mean they'd already have phyresis effect on them
I mean it’s 1 mana for a phyresis effect
should we be on sevinne's for in case she dies with the phyresis
we dun have fast mana tho. and most of our free spells are counterspells
idk test it
im newer so i cant judge a deck without testing for hours
for 5
ok
Extended non foil yshtola best budget of her
nice
idea: what about gifts ungiven and get 4 free spells. 4 mana for 6 infect
ok
T4 stretch but can get early wins
it's not supposed to be turbo so that';s fine
if you ahve neither, you tutor curiosity first before phyresis right?
Honestly
If im tutoring
It’s always for rhystic
Like a turn 2 rhystic will win me the game
If it sticks
yeah true
i think it's getting banned next year
is teferi's protection too slow
y'shtola proc + 1 more turn to do our damage? not sure
im done btw ive been in this channelf or like 10 hours straight
adderrall not put to good use today
glgl and since we're venturing into high power, the esper discord is rly good at giving b4 and b5 suggestions. i go to them for help
Nah I tutor for smothering
not in b4+
rhystic is too game-warping in high power
i stand by smothering better in b3 tho
There is enough tutors in yhis dexk to get w.e u want
Honestly it prob not gunna
The card is like iconic
Also doesn’t stop people from playing the game
It just draws u advantage and force people to run interaction
maybe wizards doesnt care but my high power friends say it's just bad for the game and ruins cEDH
i also dont care since im a b3 player tho
Oh it’s
Like the best card in cedh
But that’s cuz they banned dockside
And jeweled lotus
So the game shifted to be more midrange
And rhystic just wins games cuz it’s just back to slower meta
they say jlo is coming back
btw not a fan of the gifts ungiven idea? @willow steppe i thought i was cooking
If you run bloodchief ascension I highly recommend mindcrank for a wincon
[[simon, wild]] meme
it banned in b3
the cedh people are 30/70 on it
but i think it gud in b4 
Also I can send both my deckslist later. I have 1 deck where im testing cards abd will adjust it to be lower bracket then I have a cedh version of yshtola
I have so many infinite I can do in the deck but I keep it mid b3 friendly
Ye i cut out my gamechangers to take it to b3
Nah I keep GC for b3
Well i have 3
They can deal with smothering tithe
But got rid of my other ones
I've actually taken out helm of the ghastlord in my cedh version
yeah most ppl do
it's still gud in b4 right?
or considerable
It can be. Curiosity is straight the best version of the card and eye with flash allows for way more versatility
ya
Ive made some adjustments to it
it the 3rd obv
Was b4
But i got rid of bloodthirsty conquerer cause i feel people would target me for fear of combos
So added some things to try and give life link as well as senseis diving top for bolas
bro has tinker

Lmao forgot that got put in there
i honestly like no mercy lol. i didnt consider that card
It is good
leyline over high fae rite? potentially it for free
I just had trouble putting in room
Dissipation field is funny
If u like that effect
[[dissipation field]]
Really good point, i forgot about leylines
do u have 4/5 free spells?
what is the point labratory maniac lol
im a lifegain hater personally i think you save more life by one-side board wiping than playing cards like sanguine bond
exquisite blood sorry
Here's my cedh version. I have to add my casual tester to archidekt then I can send it
you should play sensei's divine top to infinite with bolas citadel. you need sheoldred / clones / delneys / papa to finish it though. it's a tricky combo without aetherflux reservoir
@white mirage also is 32 lands fine for you?
Incase i draw my deck out before winning 😭😭
^
write that down write that down
lotho synergize with us pretty well
Since ive been playing ive lived around 32-35 lands
But i havent been playing that long
oh u not on papa. he's ok in b3. a considerable option. b4/b5 love him tho. but he simplifies the bolas combo and is a slightly better curiosity target for b3, much better for b4/5
im trialing him right now idk if i wanna keep
Could you explain how the combo works since in still newer?
ok
Thank you
have bolas + top on battlefield
(you should also at the very minimum have y'shtola if you wanna end the game that turn. if not you can just draw a dozen cards)
look at your top of library. if it's something good (like y'shtola procs, BUT ESPECIALLY if it's clones or trigger doubles or sheoldred or papa), cast it with bolas and pay the life. if not good put top on top of your library and draw the card. pay 1 to put top back on battlefield with bolas. repeat
clones/trigger doublers make it so you gain more life than you're losing in the process and you can keep going until you kill them. spotty sometimes, not guranteed. but it's fun
sheoldred makes it so drawing the top gains you 1 life instead of loses you 1 life. im pretty sure it's a guranteed kill
papa makes it so that you can keep casting top over and over and over. pay 1 life and gain it back from papa. they take 1 life each time. guranteed kill
What's papa?
papalymo totolymo
he's popular in b4/b5 as a better curiosity holder than yshtola
i dont like him
because my 3 cmc cards do 3 dmg now and still dont proc my draw lol
but i think high power has mroe 1 mana cards and stuff
there's also aetherflux reservoir and im pretty sure that thing is a fraud
dead card outside combo i dont like it
Its great in my oloro creature deck.
oh yeah i mean here at least
Yeah im not too much of a fan of it here. I down graded mine from my cedh deck to my casual version
I thought about making an olorororororor deck, he looks a lot of fun
I run thassa combo and mindcrank in my cedh version. This is too clunky
I see! Thank you for explaining
Tis neat
Its really fun. I ran oloro control for 8 years. Then turned it into hashaton. Now I have a more casual oloro creature base deck
but it's fun having a combo that you have to think about and be careful with life instead of idk. i have these two cards so u r dead
https://moxfield.com/decks/zUfRD-UJp0q4HZoLGGcaiA finally update the deck on moxfield
They are prolly not having too much fun with the deck anyways 🤣
6 boardwipe is enough I think
he was joking but it got to me :c
Ye will prolly be my next one, have a valgavoth, nelly, tidus, gonna have ysholta, and think Oloro would fit well with them
i rly should consider relic of legends
yall think [[Staff of Compleation]] is worth running?
is it better than vicotry chimes?
no
wonder what I should replace it with
Its a solid casual card. Can proc yshtola by itself
maybe that signpost mana rock lol
Uhhhhh what victory chime
Ive been thinking about switching it with my commander sphere since i feel i have plenty of draw in here already
[[relic of legend]]
Since yshtola doesnt care about who takes damage
also im the only person ik running [[Kaito, Bane of Nightmares]] he's slept on
Legendary Planeswalker — Kaito
Ninjutsu 

(

, Return an unblocked attacker you control to hand: Put this card onto the battlefield from your hand tapped and attacking.)
During your turn, as long as Kaito has one or more loyalty counters on him, he's a 3/4 Ninja creature and has hexproof.
+1: You get an emblem with "Ninjas you control get +1/+1."
0: Surveil 2. Then draw a card for each opponent who lost life this turn.
−2: Tap target creature. Put two stun counters on it.
Loyalty: 4
yeah thats why its in there but after playing it, the life adds up reaaaly quick
I think not enough lifegain in my deck to support it
the life adds up reaaaly quick
Yeah thats why I said casual card. Its better than the useless cards in the deck but once you've taken those out, that should.be next up
I thought about not having lifelink and just draining myself quickly while tutoring for [[axis of morality]] just to laugh
by quick i mean im playing b2/3 games and that thing has no trouble doing 12+ damage to me in a game if it's out early
I really consider something to give yshtola Lifelink lol
I need a good one lol
Makes yshtola 4/6 with lifelink
is there any that's worth it tho.... i had one and the esper discord said it was trash
[[caduceus, staff of hermes]]
I know I have the extended art of that and I love to run it
its only 2 mana but I love [[spirit loop]]
For a cheap option you can also run [[basilisk collar]]
[[dancer’s chakram]]
Artifact — Equipment
Job select (When this Equipment enters, create a 1/1 colorless Hero creature token, then attach this to it.)
Equipped creature gets +2/+2, has lifelink and "Other commanders you control get +2/+2 and have lifelink," and is a Performer in addition to its other types.
Krishna — Equip 
I thought about [[heliod, sun-crowned]]
At least it’s a 3/3 body that can block for you ig
Could trigger yshtola if he isnt a creature
There's also [[steel of the godhead]]
Lifelink and unblockable
So you can double up on life gains and potentially make her a commander damage lethal target
I think I might just run the chakram
With a clone would be super fun
Or both on her, i just like clones
What card is that?
[[dancer’s chakram]]
Artifact — Equipment
Job select (When this Equipment enters, create a 1/1 colorless Hero creature token, then attach this to it.)
Equipped creature gets +2/+2, has lifelink and "Other commanders you control get +2/+2 and have lifelink," and is a Performer in addition to its other types.
Krishna — Equip 
Make yshtola 4/6
I see so it would work with partner commanders
Damn thats 7 mana to play and equip 😭😭
Ohhh i see
It comes already on the 1/1
Thats actually really cool
Yeah its a solid card. If your purely looking for lifegain basilisk collar is better
Once that 1/1 is gone you now have to pay 3 to equip. Where basilisk will always be 1 to drop 2 to equip
Well I like the idea of having an extra body lol
Im not saying its bad. I just meant the recurring part of needing to equip may outway the body. But the deck comes with chakram
I have [[shadowspear]] just to help deal with indestructible if i want to remove something
Plus the hexproof and lifelink obviously
Shadowspear is byfar the best lifelink card. Lol issue for alot of people is its pretty pricey
Keeps increasing
My favorite card for no real reason is [[avacyn, angel of hope]]
Just expensive and isnt really needed. I just love the card
i mean she's cool af
My fav response to other boardwipe
can u report back if lifelink actually does anything. im not convinced but i dont have any slots to try it
[[your temple is under attack]]
i feel like the life u save from boardwiping is better than the life you gain from lifelink
I think one game I have like 70 life
Lol I’m saving my fun fund to invest in fierce guardianship next

👁️👁️
16*
[[whip of erebos]] if you really want to make it funny
Legendary Enchantment Artifact
Creatures you control have lifelink.


,
: Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step. If it would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else. Activate only as a sorcery.
12 from the 6 damage dealt then 4 from her own lifegain
Oh nvm you said just basilisk
😂
I traded like a sephiroth for this
Super good trade imo. Delney is just super versatile in so many dexks
The trade was super good
Honestly i wonder if that is playable, would be very uneeded but yshtola with lifelink and the bolas citadel, diving top combo, and aetherflux
Prolly not smart
But still sounds fun 😂
People are fanatics about final fantasy
[[inquisitor’s flail]]
Mannnn
All I wanted to do was make yshtola drain
And somehow I made infect yshtola
I just wanna punish people for existing
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
That’s all of my decks
I play Az the villian
Infect yshtola is bad bc people will just answer you like right the way
any finisher suggestions besides exsanguinate/fandaniel/...
my deck is pretty good at controlling, but had to call out two games yesterday cuz people had to leave/store was about to close and i couldn't finish them.
I don’t have a good finisher i just sit back and relax til I cast enough random spell to drain the table
I know a lot of people were talking about Revenge of Ravens, I just finished this proxy moments ago. If anyone would like to use it feel free and enjoy
[[Rite of Replication]]
How do you all feel about this as a copy spell?
Around same cmc as others but gives you the option to create 5
Depend what you want to copy ?
Commander
You can’t
Legendary clause
Ahhhh i see
HOWEVER
You can only if you copy her non-legendary token
Made by [[vile duplication]] [[quantum misalignment]]
I see
I’m honestly cool with just running Sakashima
I have his secret lair and needed something to put him in
Eh too expensive and sakashima is a creature
Is there something better about him than other clones?
Nope
Just some spice for you
Just this
Sakashima is the 4th best clone for yshtola
Respectable
IMO
Quantum
Vile Duplication
Spark Double
Sakashima
[[spark double]]
Even [[gogo, master]] is funnier
sakashima the impostor is better than spark double and partner sakashima since you can choose enemy creatures
Legendary Creature — Wizard

,
: Copy target activated or triggered ability you control X times. You may choose new targets for the copies. This ability can't be copied and X can't be 0. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
"I see... so, you seek to save the world. Then I guess that means I shall save the world as well. Lead on! I will copy your every move."
2/4
.
: Regenerate enchanted creature.

. If you do, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain that much life.)

: Untap this artifact.