Y'shtola Communal Brewing

[pallid ocean]

Basically any stuff that discounts

[void grove]

Ooh lifelink, that's a good idea

[pallid ocean]

I think the precon has dancers chakram?

It's either the set or precon

I'm running it for flavor

[vital steppe]

precon 100%

[pallid ocean]

It's also pretty comparable

[soft peak]

if youre going lifelink I liked the look of [[whip of erebos]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/159/whip-of-erebos

Whip of Erebos <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Enchantment Artifact
Creatures you control have lifelink.
, : Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step. If it would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else. Activate only as a sorcery.

[pallid ocean]

I like the mdfc since it's a mdfc

[void grove]

I have a buttload of cards from main set so any good additions from there?

[pallid ocean]

https://archidekt.com/decks/13780268/endwalker

This is my more flavor focused list

Unfortunately most lists tend to disassemble and rebuild yshtola from scratch

[vital steppe]

main set...
maybe wind crystal ?

[soft peak]

in 3 colours the crystals are probably rough

[pallid ocean]

Darkness isn't awful

[marsh solar]

[[banish into fable]] seems like a fun spell

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/eld/325/banish-into-fable

Banish into Fable <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
When you cast this spell from your hand, copy it if you control an artifact, then copy it if you control an enchantment. You may choose new targets for the copies.
Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand. You create a 2/2 white Knight creature token with vigilance.

[pallid ocean]

The crystals tend to really want to benefit focused decks tho

[void grove]

Yeah this is what I was thinking. It's so much work to fix the deck that you're basically rebuilding it.

[wide quiver]

I don't love whip since we didn't have many creatures

[void grove]

Maybe I just abandon her for something else

[pallid ocean]

It's less that the deck is broken but that yshtola really benefits from all the free spells that aren't in the precon

[soft peak]

as always depends on the 99

[void grove]

Esper colours have such good free spells too

[pallid ocean]

The precon is pretty good if you cut like 20% and focus it better

[void grove]

Kinda nasty

[pallid ocean]

Pretty much all the good free spells

Looking at all the removals/counters/protection.........

[wide quiver]

You can pretty easily build a token focused yshtola deck with just a few cards I'm sure

[void grove]

I'm not even gonna try to upgrade the other precons, they're nowhere near as exciting

[pallid ocean]

It'll look closer to a graha list imo

Unless you dismantle the entire deck

[soft peak]

[[Monastery Mentor]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/125/monastery-mentor

Monastery Mentor <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Monk
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create a 1/1 white Monk creature token with prowess.
"Speak little. Do much."
2/2

[pallid ocean]

Then you become an urza deck

[soft peak]

looks so sick for that type of deck

im running it just 4 fun even without that focus lol

[pallid ocean]

Nah, the blue stuff like [[Hermes]]

[surreal shoal]

Multiple cards match “Hermes”, can you be more specific?

[pallid ocean]

[[Hermes, overseer]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/141/hermes-overseer-of-elpis

Hermes, Overseer of Elpis <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create a 1/1 blue Bird creature token with flying and vigilance.
Whenever you attack with one or more Birds, scry 2.
"For us, there may be no higher purpose than to live for our world, but what of the other living beings out there?"
2/4

[pallid ocean]

Birds!

[soft peak]

both

[pallid ocean]

But monastery mentor is always good

[soft peak]

monks and birds

and yshtola clones

:O

[pallid ocean]

I still rmb when it was legacy playable

[wide quiver]

I really really liked [[restoration of eiganjo]] when I played it last night

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/34/the-restoration-of-eiganjo-architect-of-restoration

The Restoration of Eiganjo <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I — Search your library for a basic Plains card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
II — You may discard a card. When you do, return target permanent card with mana value 2 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
III — Exile this Saga, then return it to the battlefield transformed under your control.

Architect of Restoration
Enchantment Creature — Fox Monk
Vigilance
Whenever this creature attacks or blocks, create a 1/1 colorless Spirit creature token.
"A visionary looks at rubble and sees not only what was, but also what could be." —Onyx-Eye, architect of Eiganjo
3/4

[pallid ocean]

The best tokens imo are karnstructs

But pricy

[pallid ocean]

How's the flip side?

It always feels like it always dies

[wide quiver]

Created two chump blockers

[pallid ocean]

I feel like more ramp should be played in the deck

[wide quiver]

All I needed to stay alive. And it got a curiosity back on yshtola

[pallid ocean]

[[claim jumper]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/8/claim-jumper

Claim Jumper <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Rabbit Mercenary
Vigilance
When this creature enters, if an opponent controls more lands than you, you may search your library for a Plains card and put it onto the battlefield tapped. Then if an opponent controls more lands than you, repeat this process once. If you search your library this way, shuffle.
3/3

[wide quiver]

I do love claim jumper

[pallid ocean]

I love the white ramp

[wide quiver]

[[surveyor's scope]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cma/232/surveyors-scope

Surveyor's Scope <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
, Exile this artifact: Search your library for up to X basic land cards, where X is the number of players who control at least two more lands than you. Put those cards onto the battlefield, then shuffle.

[pallid ocean]

It's pretty comparable to green ramp

[pallid ocean]

Much better if you play bounce lands

And I do love them

[wide quiver]

Yeah

[pallid ocean]

Extra upside with land untaps too

[wide quiver]

You can t pro with it to ramp too

Best usage of t pro

Sac it, with that on the stack, phase out your lands

[pallid ocean]

I love land shenanigans

But t pro sadly can't fit in b3

The other options just too good

[wide quiver]

[[szats will]] came in very clutch yesterday too

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/152/szats-will

Szat's Will <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Choose one. If you control a commander as you cast this spell, you may choose both instead.
• Each opponent sacrifices a creature they control with the greatest power.
• Exile all opponents' graveyards, then create X 0/1 black Thrull creature tokens, where X is the greatest power among creature cards exiled this way.

[soft peak]

I run [[archaeomancers map]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/12/archaeomancers-map

Archaeomancer's Map <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, search your library for up to two basic Plains cards, reveal them, put them into your hand, then shuffle.
Whenever a land an opponent controls enters, if that player controls more lands than you, you may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield.

[wide quiver]

I love this card

[soft peak]

neat card

[wide quiver]

Yeah, I left it in from the precon

[soft peak]

oh thats nice

I might make a creature focused b2 yshtola deck ngl

my normal pod doesnt want to hang in b3 unfort

removal + thrulls on szats will looks really nice

[wide quiver]

My friend was playing a teval deck

And I cast it twice lol

[soft peak]

OUCH

[wide quiver]

Emet selch recasting it for 2 is cray cray

[pallid ocean]

Been struggling to balance flavor and power

Hard to keep as much flavor in while aiming for near the top end of B3

[wide quiver]

True that

Helm of the ghastlord might be too oppressive

[soft peak]

I dont run it for that reason

[wide quiver]

It very quickly becomes kefka

[pallid ocean]

Does the deck need dark confidant, nope, but god is it flavorful

[wide quiver]

I found in my games, that I was usually the one taking 4+ damage every turn lmao

[pallid ocean]

Yep

The deck can bolt itself very effectively

I call it a suicide deck in disguise

It's why I cut toxic deluge

[wide quiver]

I yo-yo'd down to 2 then back up to 20 something when I won

[pallid ocean]

It also affects yshtola while losing life

[wide quiver]

Doesn't help that I cast toxic deluge for 9

[pallid ocean]

That's my point for removing it

Lifelink goes a long way

[wide quiver]

I liked it though

[pallid ocean]

It's still toxic deluge, it gets rid of 95% of things

[wide quiver]

At cheap too

So a recast isn't out of the question

[pallid ocean]

[[Enduring tenacity]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/95/enduring-tenacity

Enduring Tenacity <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment Creature — Snake Glimmer
Whenever you gain life, target opponent loses that much life.
When Enduring Tenacity dies, if it was a creature, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control. It's an enchantment. (It's not a creature.)
4/3

[wide quiver]

Ewww

[pallid ocean]

Oops I wanted the opposite

Bloodthirsty conqueror effects

Are basically lifelink for her

[wide quiver]

I don't like those because the 2 card combo implication

[pallid ocean]

Yea

Also way cheaper to get lifelink

Than either side of the combo

[wide quiver]

And triggers yshtola

Whereas those are creatures

There might be a noncreature version of that effect though

[pallid ocean]

It's just [[exquisite blood]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/195/exquisite-blood

Exquisite Blood <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent loses life, you gain that much life.
Even as humans regained the upper hand, some still willingly traded their lives for a chance at immortality.

[pallid ocean]

Reminds me, I think I own 2 copies of it

Got an old one from years ago and the ixalan precon has it

That said it's still pricy

OH WTF

how did the price rise to $40

It was around $20 a few months ago

[wide quiver]

Woof

That blood must truly be exquisite

[marsh solar]

[[curator's ward]] Good protection spell with card draw

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dom/49/curators-ward

Curator's Ward <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant permanent
Enchanted permanent has hexproof.
When enchanted permanent leaves the battlefield, if it was historic, draw two cards. (Artifacts, legendaries, and Sagas are historic.)

[wide quiver]

That's pretty good

[soft peak]

hmm maybe i replace swiftfoot with that

[wide quiver]

I liked [[smoke bomb]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/acr/75/smoke-bomb

Smoke Bomb <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
Flash
All creatures have shroud. (They can't be the targets of spells or abilities.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this artifact. When you do, target creature you control can't be blocked this turn.
When the sun removes all shadows, the Assassins create their own.

[pallid ocean]

I believe that side of the combo is the rare one

There are a lot more of the other side

[soft peak]

only bloodthirsty conquerer and exquisite iirc

[pallid ocean]

Yea

[marsh solar]

yea, smoke bomb is excellent

[wide quiver]

I think I'm mostly interested in instant speed protection

[marsh solar]

I just don't like the forced sac

[pallid ocean]

I rmb when bloodthirsty conqueror was spoiled that people were dooming about the 2 card combo in standard

[wide quiver]

Since you didn't need it until you need it

[pallid ocean]

But then standard is now modern

Modern is more like old standard

[soft peak]

before blodothirsty there were already 2 card combos in standard with [[bloodletter of aclazotz]] lol

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/lci/92/bloodletter-of-aclazotz

Bloodletter of Aclazotz <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Vampire Demon
Flying
If an opponent would lose life during your turn, they lose twice that much life instead. (Damage causes loss of life.)
Its very presence rips old wounds open to bleed anew.
2/4

[wide quiver]

[[slip out the back]] is great

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clu/99/slip-out-the-back

Slip Out the Back <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature. It phases out. (Treat it and anything attached to it as though they don't exist until its controller's next turn.)
"I was never here."

[pallid ocean]

Yea but now we have omniscience and RDW

[soft peak]

yeah

[wide quiver]

I double cast [[march of the swirling mists]] yesterday too

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/neo/61/march-of-swirling-mist

March of Swirling Mist <:manax:292901509082120202><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
As an additional cost to cast this spell, you may exile any number of blue cards from your hand. This spell costs less to cast for each card exiled this way.
Up to X target creatures phase out. (While they're phased out, they're treated as though they don't exist. Each one phases in before its controller untaps during their next untap step.)

[pallid ocean]

With papatiq?

[wide quiver]

With emet selch

[pallid ocean]

Oh

That's neat

I really like the card in my token brewing

Mostly because tokens really really want phasing

[[season of weaving]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/68/season-of-weaving

Season of Weaving <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Choose up to five worth of modes. You may choose the same mode more than once.
— Draw a card.
— Choose an artifact or creature you control. Create a token that's a copy of it.
— Return each nonland, nontoken permanent to its owner's hand.

[pallid ocean]

One of my favorite cards

[wide quiver]

Cast any spell -> yshtola trigger -> emet trigger -> recast it at 2 discount -> pitch 2 blue cards and phase out 6 things for 1 blue mana

[pallid ocean]

I think it dies to sba legend rules first tho

[wide quiver]

Yeah, you need nonlegend copies

[pallid ocean]

With yshtola specifically

It plays much better with non legends

[wide quiver]

Which is why I was so confused rite of replication was in the precon lmfao

[pallid ocean]

The precon is really weird with some picks

[wide quiver]

With like 3 nonlegendaries

[pallid ocean]

It feels like 20% is out of place

[wide quiver]

That's most precons tbf, but yeah especially here

[soft peak]

I really did not like it when I played it

[wide quiver]

I still think it's decent mind you

[soft peak]

decided to buy singles to build my yshtola deck as there's so few cards in there I want

[wide quiver]

Unlike that Alpha guy

[pallid ocean]

The core is pretty decent especially if you want to play with flavor

It's just the supporting cards are very hit and miss

Doesn't help that one side wants to pump your field and the other doesn't care about the field

RIP [[ardbert]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/77/ardbert-warrior-of-darkness

Ardbert, Warrior of Darkness <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Spirit Warrior
Whenever you cast a white spell, put a +1/+1 counter on each legendary creature you control. They gain vigilance until end of turn.
Whenever you cast a black spell, put a +1/+1 counter on each legendary creature you control. They gain menace until end of turn.
"Always we took the burden of fighting upon ourselves. That's what heroes do, isn't it?"
2/2

[pallid ocean]

Fun card with 0 synergy for yshtola other than commander dmg I guess

[marsh solar]

lmao

I wouldn't say 0 synergy... since most of the things we do will proc it...

plus he gets big also, which is nice

[pallid ocean]

Yea but our wincon isn't combat

Also funny since he doesn't pump heroes

[marsh solar]

have I been missing what Synergy means this whole time? o.O

I thought it meant if something does something because of something we do

[pallid ocean]

I refer to synergy in furthering the main gameplan of the deck

[marsh solar]

ah, I guess that makes more sense

[pallid ocean]

Like if you add ardbert to an yshtola deck, you aren't really improving the deck

Or what it's setting out to do

[marsh solar]

good points, thanks

[pallid ocean]

The whole mini subtheme of combat doesn't gel well with yshtola

[[estinien]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/82/estinien-varlineau

Estinien Varlineau <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elf Warrior
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, put a +1/+1 counter on Estinien Varlineau. It gains flying until end of turn.
At the beginning of your second main phase, you draw X cards and lose X life, where X is the number of your opponents who were dealt combat damage by Estinien Varlineau or a Dragon this turn.
3/3

[marsh solar]

This would be excellent if you are playing a more permanent based deck

[pallid ocean]

Goes infinite with a bunch of stuff

[[urianger]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/96/urianger-augurelt

Urianger Augurelt <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Elf Advisor
Whenever you play a land from exile or cast a spell from exile, you gain 2 life.
Draw Arcanum — : Look at the top card of your library. You may exile it face down.
Play Arcanum — : Until end of turn, you may play cards exiled with Urianger Augurelt. Spells you cast this way cost less to cast.
1/3

[pallid ocean]

Both urianger and matoya are good in a vacuum, but doesn't really fit in the deck

[marsh solar]

I think Yshtola & Eriette of the Charmed apple would be excellent together

[pallid ocean]

Without warping it tremendously

[[ERIETTE OF THE ]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/woe/202/eriette-of-the-charmed-apple

Eriette of the Charmed Apple <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Warlock
Each creature that's enchanted by an Aura you control can't attack you or planeswalkers you control.
At the beginning of your end step, each opponent loses X life and you gain X life, where X is the number of Auras you control.
"Hush now. I need your beauty sleep."
2/4

[pallid ocean]

Yea

I've seen an enchantress list

Also works well with talion from eldraine

[wide quiver]

In my couple of games, I sorta ran out of things to play on an empty board

so I think I want to add in less interaction lol

[marsh solar]

lmao

[wide quiver]

[[protection racket]] is neat

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/39/protection-racket

Protection Racket <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, repeat the following process for each opponent in turn order. Reveal the top card of your library. That player may pay life equal to that card's mana value. If they do, exile that card. Otherwise, put it into your hand.

[compact vine]

I thought about this for a bit! But then decided I just don’t play enough enchantments for it

Was also going to throw in Greater Auramancy when I considered it

[compact vine]

I’m stuck on sleeves for the deck. I’m thinking either Jet (sparkly black) or the Dual Ivory ones where they’re ivory on the outside and black inside

[wide quiver]

I always get katana sleeves

They just feel the best for me

[maiden widget]

I use matte black dragonsheild

[compact vine]

More looking for thematic colour than brand XD

[wide quiver]

Get tie-dye

[maiden widget]

Yeah black is pretty fitting to her ngl

[compact vine]

Aside from the three battle bonds and the triome, is the mana base worth upgrading?

[mild harness]

I dislike katanas once they’re broken in personally

[mild harness]

A good mana base makes a good deck batter

[fervent burrow]

It's fine but there's always improvement

Shocks and fetch generically as well

[pallid ocean]

I was thinking of the metallic anniversary starry nights

Go bling

[vital steppe]

the dragon shield blue/silver are gorgeous imo

[wide quiver]

You kinda want to lose life fromj your manabase, so shocks and fetches, while being generically better, are also specifically better

Bolt MDFCs too lol

[maiden widget]

[[baleful mastery]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/126/baleful-mastery

Baleful Mastery <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
You may pay rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
If the cost was paid, an opponent draws a card.
Exile target creature or planeswalker.

[maiden widget]

Budget deadly rollic

[compact vine]

Wait why do we want to lose life? O.o

[wide quiver]

Any player needs to lose 4 life

And it's easy to trigger that if it's your own mana base or spells doing it to yourself

Hence why [[snuff out]] is dual purpose

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/gvl/53/snuff-out

Snuff Out <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
If you control a Swamp, you may pay 4 life rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Destroy target nonblack creature. It can't be regenerated.
"The bigger they are, the faster they rot."

[marsh solar]

[[stinging study]] I just heard about this a second ago, it seems like a pretty cool card

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/44/stinging-study

Stinging Study <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
You draw X cards and you lose X life, where X is the mana value of a commander you own on the battlefield or in the command zone.
Silverquill first-years welcome discomfort in the classroom, knowing it will prepare them for the years ahead.

[marsh solar]

The anniversary sleeves? Those are awesome.

[lusty igloo]

I feel like there would be better draw spells in blue

[high vine]

I mean when you go by definitions a bracket 3 Deck has No Mass Land denial, no 2 Card Infinites, No more then 3 Game changers and No changing extra Turns. So honestly getting a Yshtola to a bracket 3 or even a Vivi shouldnt be too hard by Definition. (Since some talked about Brackets recently)

[marsh solar]

Oh, of that I have no doubt, I just got excited and shared it. I think it would really shine in 4+ colors

[void grove]

That's not really what brackets are about though - it's more about intent than strictly game changers or mld

[high vine]

Then what are brackets about then? Weather I play Fetch/Shocklands? The playstyle?
Is Infect/Proliferate an automatic Bracket 3-4 or what about STAX or Pillowfort or "I win cards like [[Approached by the Second Sun]] or [[Thrassas Oracle]]. Is anything that is not "I attack with my 3 5/5s over the course of 4 turns and win" even allowed in Tier 1-2 😂

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/akh/4/approach-of-the-second-sun

Approach of the Second Sun <:mana6:292901508780130304><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
If this spell was cast from your hand and you've cast another spell named Approach of the Second Sun this game, you win the game. Otherwise, put Approach of the Second Sun into its owner's library seventh from the top and you gain 7 life.

https://scryfall.com/card/thb/73/thassas-oracle

Thassa's Oracle <:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Merfolk Wizard
When this creature enters, look at the top X cards of your library, where X is your devotion to blue. Put up to one of them on top of your library and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order. If X is greater than or equal to the number of cards in your library, you win the game. (Each in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to blue.)
1/3

[void grove]

I mean, just reading the brackets article explains it pretty well. Especially including the later article too.

It's not just about specific cards in the deck. You can have bracket 5 with the same card restrictions as bracket 2.

[wide quiver]

Vivi seems very easy to make quick combos with, so it seems less suitable for lower power, for instance

[high vine]

Well Bracket 5 is cedH. Bracket 4 you can probably use the restrictions of bracket 2, but not 5. Given that, while yes you can play in high tiers without mlds and even infinites with 0 Game Changers in that format you would would lost most matches, cause you would have to cut some of the biggest staple cards.
In black you would not have the tutors, in blue you would lose the 0 Mana Counterspells.

[high vine]

Feel like to me Bracket 1 and 2 are easy to understand. 1 is some random yolo fun deck, 2 is precon level with decent build. To me I have the hardest time to distinguish the difference between Tier 3 and 4.

[void grove]

3 and 4 is about how fast you can end the game

Turns 1-6 b4, turn 7+ b3

(End the game reliably)

So not accounting for like a god draw where you just drop combo pieces instantly

[wide quiver]

Brackets are mostly silly, but you should know the power level of your own deck pretty well.

[void grove]

I've found them to be very useful in the ~200 games I've played under the system

It helps make sure everyone is on the same page about the goals of the game

I've only like twice had someone either misunderstand the brackets or just wilfully disregard them

[high vine]

my sythis deck is in that sense kind of weird. I feel like it is very strong. However it never finishes before Turn 7, instead it is very good to kill all interaction that would target me and eventually win, cause opponents need to throw massive amounts of Enchantment removal into my direction.

[wide quiver]

Kinda. You see a lot of people here with the attitude of "what 3 game changers do I run to stay bracket 3?" which wholly misses the point.

[void grove]

Indeed. I've not come across much of that. My average game has ended on turn 8.5 or so. My only notable fast game end was turn 4 from a shroofus that nobody had removal for

(I added rakdos charm to my deck after that game)

[void grove]

Sounds bracket 3 to me

Yeah giving all your enchantments shroud is great for protecting them hehe

Bracket 4 is like, you want to win win win and built your deck to do so, with no like "oh I won't include that because it's too strong"

Like I have my sephiroth deck which is b3. Since it has infinites in it I run no tutors

But if I was building the same deck bracket 4 I would add more combo lines, fast mana and tutors

[high vine]

love to run cards like [[Karmic Justice]] 😂

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c15/72/karmic-justice

Karmic Justice <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever a spell or ability an opponent controls destroys a noncreature permanent you control, you may destroy target permanent that opponent controls.

[high vine]

combining that with [[Greater Auramency]] 😂

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/shm/7/greater-auramancy

Greater Auramancy <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Other enchantments you control have shroud. (A permanent with shroud can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Enchanted creatures you control have shroud.
A delicate veil of glamers can prove as sturdy as iron.

[high vine]

@void grove @wide quiver https://archidekt.com/decks/13612460/cat_girl_power

What would you guys my Y'shtola deck is in terms of bracket?

[lusty igloo]

guys why is the surge foil $850 right now

i think im not going to buy one

[wide quiver]

Yeah you shouldn't

[wide quiver]

Probably can hang around 3-4

[lusty igloo]

im going to wait 3 days and if it doesn't drop then im going to buy the regular art.... and use the proxy that @marsh solar posted above since it's prettier than both official arts anyway

[high vine]

Still Wonder If Cards like [[Haughty Djinn]] or Barel Chief of Compliance]] are worth it

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/154/haughty-djinn

Haughty Djinn <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Djinn
Flying
Haughty Djinn's power is equal to the number of instant and sorcery cards in your graveyard.
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
"I adore your outfit. It's so . . . rustic."
*/4

[wide quiver]

I'm running baral

Djinn seems strictly worse

[high vine]

Djinn can be a decently strong Beater with Combat Evasion though. [[Alela, cunning Conqueror]] i think is fun, but yeah not sure about her either. Personally I also think [[Archmage Emeritus]] is overcosted for the deck

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/woc/3/alela-cunning-conqueror

Alela, Cunning Conqueror <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Faerie Warlock
Flying
Whenever you cast your first spell during each opponent's turn, create a 1/1 black Faerie Rogue creature token with flying.
Whenever one or more Faeries you control deal combat damage to a player, goad target creature that player controls.
2/4

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/145/archmage-emeritus

Archmage Emeritus <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Wizard
Magecraft — Whenever you cast or copy an instant or sorcery spell, draw a card.
Some emeritus professors return from their wanderings periodically to share tales of the mystical wonders of Arcavios.
2/2

[wide quiver]

We really won't be winning through combat though eh

[high vine]

Nah most of the i Put one Board is to Stop opponents From Just running over me. Recently for example my [[Hullbreaker Horror]]won me my Game, cause no one could get over him and I always had Mana to use his effects on my instants 😅

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/inr/68/hullbreaker-horror

Hullbreaker Horror <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Kraken Horror
Flash
This spell can't be countered.
Whenever you cast a spell, choose up to one —
• Return target spell you don't control to its owner's hand.
• Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.
7/8

[high vine]

He is also really fun in Vivi given the density of Low Mana Cost Instant Spells in that Deck 😂

[wide quiver]

Yeah, hullbreaker is great

[void grove]

People going fucking nuts realising that surge foil supply is limited and demand huge. All surges have basically doubled in the last week. My sephiroth was £160 when I opened it and now going for over £700.

[maiden widget]

I want extended art non foil yshtola

[lusty igloo]

i'm not convinced it's people going nuts and buying like crazy. the spikes happening overnight makes me feel like it's a few hoarders buying out everything to resell later. im going to wait it out a few months where i think demand will be lower

i migth be wrong im new and dont have historical background knowledge about card prices lol

[void grove]

I'm talking to a lot of sellers and they're all surprised too. It's multiple buyers (UK)

Lots of US buyers buying from UK too

[wide quiver]

People are crazy with magic cards

Chat in #commander has reminded me about crime cards. Any good ones here?

[[kaervek the punisher]] maybe

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/92/kaervek-the-punisher

Kaervek, the Punisher <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Warlock
Whenever you commit a crime, exile up to one target black card from your graveyard and copy it. You may cast the copy. If you do, you lose 2 life. (Targeting opponents, anything they control, and/or cards in their graveyards is a crime. Copies of permanent spells become tokens.)
3/3

[void grove]

This one is good if you have repeatable

But it's only black spells

Not sure how good it is outside mono black or looking to recur very specific pieces

Gisa the hellraiser is decent but too expensive imo

[wide quiver]

Yeah. Seems like a worse [[emet-selch of the]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/170/emet-selch-of-the-third-seat

Emet-Selch of the Third Seat <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Spells you cast from your graveyard cost less to cast.
Whenever one or more opponents lose life, you may cast target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard. If that spell would be put into your graveyard, exile it instead. Do this only once each turn.
3/4

[void grove]

I wouldn't say worse, just different

It's absolutely insane in sephiroth

[compact vine]

Is the other Emet Selch worth running? The transforming one?

[wide quiver]

Well, worse in our deck

[void grove]

Basically every time a creature dies you can play any spell from your gy at instant speed

[compact vine]

Also if I’m rocking Y’shtola Rhul, would Quistis be decent?

[void grove]

Yeah defo

[compact vine]

I more meant to run both, not one or the other ^^;

[wide quiver]

That wasn't in reference to emet

Ummm, emet seems okay?

[[emet, unsundered]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/218/emet-selch-unsundered-hades-sorcerer-of-eld

Emet-Selch, Unsundered <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Vigilance
Whenever Emet-Selch enters or attacks, draw a card, then discard a card.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if there are fourteen or more cards in your graveyard, you may transform Emet-Selch.
2/4

Hades, Sorcerer of Eld
Legendary Creature — Avatar
Vigilance
Echo of the Lost — During your turn, you may play cards from your graveyard.
If a card or token would be put into your graveyard from anywhere, exile it instead.
"What will become of our triumphs? Our hopes? Our... our despair?"
6/6

[wide quiver]

I don't love him here personally

I'm still running [[fandaniel]] as my disneyland finisher

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/46/fandaniel-telophoroi-ascian

Fandaniel, Telophoroi Ascian <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, surveil 1.
At the beginning of your end step, each opponent may sacrifice a nontoken creature of their choice. Each opponent who doesn't loses 2 life for each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard.
4/5

[wide quiver]

Actually, the more I think about it, I should cut fandaniel lol

[maiden widget]

I feel like he will just eat a removal

[wide quiver]

I want to see him trigger and deal like 20 damage though

[maiden widget]

Fandaniel is a based endgame card

[wide quiver]

I don't like emet's flipside only working during your turn either.

[wide quiver]

Yeah. My thoughts too.

His name reminds me of that Damn Daniel meme too

[maiden widget]

Fandaniel is my fav villain in ff14

He is also [[zodiark]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/128/zodiark-umbral-god

Zodiark, Umbral God <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — God
Indestructible
When Zodiark enters, each player sacrifices half the non-God creatures they control of their choice, rounded down.
Whenever a player sacrifices another creature, put a +1/+1 counter on Zodiark.
5/5

[maiden widget]

Spoiler alert

[wide quiver]

Oh damn, I should put zodiark in my vaevictis deck

[void grove]

I like zodiark in theory but against non go wide decks it doesn't do that much more than an [[accursed marauder]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/80/accursed-marauder

Accursed Marauder <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Zombie Warrior
When this creature enters, each player sacrifices a nontoken creature of their choice.
The Accursed are ever drawn to the Hekma, as though its presence provides a brief respite in their lives of eternal torment.
2/1

[maiden widget]

[[murder]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/110/murder

Murder <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Destroy target creature.
Razorkin have only one hobby.

[maiden widget]

Most based card ngl

[wide quiver]

Based on what

https://tenor.com/view/nigel-farage-based-based-on-what-farage-gif-3181860516941172984

Murder is not good

[maiden widget]

It’s based

It’s prog yshtola

On a budget

[wide quiver]

[[stroke of midnight]] is cheap

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/132/stroke-of-midnight

Stroke of Midnight <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target nonland permanent. Its controller creates a 1/1 white Human creature token.
The assembled partygoers fell silent and stared. As the helmet came to a clattering stop, the only sound was Ash's distant footsteps.

[wide quiver]

[[lethal scheme]] is also better

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/184/lethal-scheme

Lethal Scheme <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. Each creature that convoked this spell connives. (Draw a card, then discard a card. If you discarded a nonland card, put a +1/+1 counter on that creature.)

[maiden widget]

That require me to bring a human token

[wide quiver]

Infinitokens babyyyyy\

[compact vine]

I like Fandaniel, personally. Especially with Y’shtola Rhul

[wide quiver]

[[y'shtola rhuul]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/86/yshtola-rhul

Y'shtola Rhul <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Cat Druid
At the beginning of your end step, exile target creature you control, then return it to the battlefield under its owner's control. Then if it's the first end step of the turn, there is an additional end step after this step.
"As I suspected, the aetheric disturbance here is no natural occurrence."
3/5

[maiden widget]

6 mana ew

She’s expensive

[compact vine]

She re triggers Y’shtola and Fandaniel

[wide quiver]

Yeah, I don't see myself ever playing her

[compact vine]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[wide quiver]

She does, true.

[compact vine]

I’m a big FFXIV fan and I just want to run both Y’shtolas haha

[wide quiver]

But also is a 6 mana noncreature that needs played at sorcery speed.

[compact vine]

She’s my favourite FF character of all time

[wide quiver]

I don't remember her at all

[compact vine]

She’s from XIV

[wide quiver]

I really just remember [[!hildibrand manderville]] from ff14 lmfao

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/83/hildibrand-manderville-gentlemans-rise

Hildibrand Manderville // Gentleman's Rise

[wide quiver]

Since his quest line was the best

[compact vine]

XD

Well Y’shtola’s far more plot important. She’s in the entire game, whereas Hildy’s only in his own questline

Love the Hildebrand quests though

[wide quiver]

My eyes kinda glazed over during the FF14 story quests tbh

I think I got mostly through the first expansion before I stopped playing

[compact vine]

https://tenor.com/view/yshtola-yshtola-rhul-rhul-ffxiv-ff14-gif-22728978

[compact vine]

That’s fair. The early story’s really rough

But man, Shadowbringers and Endwalker are some of the most amazing storytelling I’ve experienced in media

[maiden widget]

With 4000 hour under my belt

Yshtola is not my fav scion

[compact vine]

Anyway! Point is, I’mma run her whether she’s good or not XD

[compact vine]

Thancred? Urianger?

[maiden widget]

Tied between Thancred and Krile

[wide quiver]

The game was mostly annoying to me because you couldn't really play with your friends until you completed the story stuff, like 80 hours of it

[compact vine]

That’s fair

What’s your main job? 🙂

[maiden widget]

Phys range

[compact vine]

Very nice. GNB here

[maiden widget]

Wait h

[compact vine]

DNC’s my secondary though. Then SCH

[maiden widget]

Have yall heard about smothering tithe at home ?

[compact vine]

No? I have regular Smothering Tithe though >_>

[maiden widget]

[[tataru taru]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/30/tataru-taru

Tataru Taru <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Dwarf Advisor
When Tataru Taru enters, you draw a card and target opponent may draw a card.
Scions' Secretary — Whenever an opponent draws a card, if it isn't that player's turn, create a tapped Treasure token. This ability triggers only once each turn.
0/3

[maiden widget]

😆

[wide quiver]

I'm sad there are no Goobbues in this set

[maiden widget]

I’m sad that they didn’t make minfilia or Ryne a legendary creature

[wide quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-ffxiv-ffxvi-final-fantasy-16-final-fantasy-14-gif-4421936260423197464

I got this mount just before I quit lol

[compact vine]

Yeahhhh, no Minfilia feelsbadman

I’m sad there’s no Tonberry King as a legendary

I’d build a Tonberry deck so fast

They could’ve made Tonberry one of the “as many as you want” cards, and made the King have power based on how many Tonberries were in your grave

[maiden widget]

The tornberry is kinda based thou

First strike death touch

[wide quiver]

[[tonberry]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/122/tonberry

Tonberry <:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Salamander Horror
This creature enters tapped with a stun counter on it. (If it would become untapped, remove a stun counter from it instead.)
Chef's Knife — During your turn, this creature has first strike and deathtouch.
Fearful monsters that creep ever forward, knives poised with deadly intent.
2/1

[wide quiver]

Tonberries are so cute

[maiden widget]

I might be trolled but I alway go for tonberry when I draft this set

[compact vine]

Tonberries are my favourite FF monster

[wide quiver]

They are so damn cute

[compact vine]

And deadly!

Doink!

Thoughts on Flowering of the White Tree?

[void grove]

bad bad bad

its not a go wide deck, its not a legends matter deck, and it isnt 3 cmc

[compact vine]

Gotcha!

[void grove]

heck I dont even run it in my go wide or legends matter decks lmao

I want to like the card

[compact vine]

I run it in Nahiri

[wide quiver]

[[flowering of the white tree]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/15/flowering-of-the-white-tree

Flowering of the White Tree <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Enchantment
Legendary creatures you control get +2/+1 and have ward .
Nonlegendary creatures you control get +1/+1.
Aragorn planted the new tree in the court by the fountain, and swiftly and gladly it began to grow.

[wide quiver]

I don't really like anthem effects in general tbh

[maiden widget]

[[restricted office]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsk/227/restricted-office-lecture-hall

Restricted Office <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Room
When you unlock this door, destroy all creatures with power 3 or greater.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)

Lecture Hall
Enchantment — Room
Other permanents you control have hexproof.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)

[maiden widget]

This card kinda cute ngl

[wide quiver]

Yeah, the 4 mana part is nice, but unlocking it is a little awkward.

7 mana sorcery speed without triggering yshtola

It's a pretty good effect though

[[dawn // dusk]]

[surreal shoal]

Multiple cards match “dawn // dusk”, can you be more specific?

[wide quiver]

[[dusk // dawn]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/61/dusk-dawn

Dusk <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures with power 3 or greater.

Dawn
Sorcery
Aftermath (Cast this spell only from your graveyard. Then exile it.)
Return all creature cards with power 2 or less from your graveyard to your hand.

[wide quiver]

I think [[battle of bywater]] might be the best in the series

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/2/the-battle-of-bywater

The Battle of Bywater <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures with power 3 or greater. Then create a Food token for each creature you control. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
The Tooks marched in with Pippin at their head. Merry now had enough sturdy Hobbitry to deal with the ruffians.

[wide quiver]

but they are all pretty decent

[[aligned hedron network]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/bfz/222/aligned-hedron-network

Aligned Hedron Network <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, exile all creatures with power 5 or greater until this artifact leaves the battlefield. (Those creatures return under their owners' control.)
The last hedron slotted into place, locking Ulamog in an infinite loop of binding energy.

[fervent burrow]

Finally ready to play

[lusty igloo]

grrrrr

i mean im happy you got her!!

[compact vine]

Omg

[fervent burrow]

Now all I need is the signed art card so I can have an appropriate amount of backups for copies

[wide quiver]

Nice

[maiden widget]

Sign art ?

[fervent burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-that-right-there-you-said-it-youre-right-you-got-it-gif-16364984199778711575

[lusty igloo]

guys does anyone have a low bracket 3 commander under control archetype? preferably lower budget

im finding myself not able to play my y'shtola often since she's too strong for a lot of pods

but she's my first control deck and i luv it

[fervent burrow]

You could probably keep the deck similar and just run Graha as the com.ander instead

[pallid ocean]

My poor man's version

I got a normal NF version of the card to refer to

[fervent burrow]

I got a good deal on the actual card so I pulled

[maiden widget]

magic night went poorly tonight

didnt win a game

but keep getting to 1v1 and lose to a go wide deck

[compact vine]

https://moxfield.com/decks/Z36MB4aywEqfavTZaku1Cg

I need to cut a card. Any suggestions?

Also what bracket would this be?

Oh! I've just been told it's 100 WITH the commander. Nevermind on cutting XD

[wide quiver]

Probably 3, but also, I'd ditch rite of replication. That card is soooo bad here.

[compact vine]

Yeah? I was thinking circle of power. What would you add?

[compact vine]

Also is necropotence worthwhile here?

[maiden widget]

[[necropotence]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ima/98/necropotence

Necropotence <:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Skip your draw step.
Whenever you discard a card, exile that card from your graveyard.
Pay 1 life: Exile the top card of your library face down. Put that card into your hand at the beginning of your next end step.

[void grove]

It's very good

[wide quiver]

Yeah. necropotence seems good

Go figure

[high vine]

really fun with [[Solitary Confinement]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/265/solitary-confinement

Solitary Confinement <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this enchantment unless you discard a card.
Skip your draw step.
You have shroud. (You can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you.

[worn eagle]

Does this shroud protect our creatures?

[high vine]

no only yourself

for example, if someone wants to beat you with Poison Counters

or tries to force you to sacrifice a creature

[compact vine]

God, Talent of the Telepath is so fucking good for this deck

[wide quiver]

[[talent of the telepath]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ori/78/talent-of-the-telepath

Talent of the Telepath <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Target opponent reveals the top seven cards of their library. You may cast an instant or sorcery spell from among them without paying its mana cost. Then that player puts the rest into their graveyard.
Spell mastery — If there are two or more instant and/or sorcery cards in your graveyard, you may cast up to two instant and/or sorcery spells from among the revealed cards instead of one.

[wide quiver]

That does seem pretty good.

[high vine]

yeah you usually can run into decks like say, you do this vs Vivi and you reveal a ton of cantrips 😅

or you reveal a counterspell when you really dont need it 😅

[compact vine]

As long as it costs 3 or more 😛

Double Shtola trigger

Beseech the Mirror also

[maiden widget]

[[fractured identity]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c17/37/fractured-identity

Fractured Identity <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Exile target nonland permanent. Each player other than its controller creates a token that's a copy of it.
Self-reflection is not without its perils.

[maiden widget]

Want some political table ?

[green vigil]

Been having a decent amount of success with [[ankh of mishra]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/vma/263/ankh-of-mishra

Ankh of Mishra <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
Whenever a land enters, this artifact deals 2 damage to that land's controller.
Tawnos finally cracked the puzzle: the strange structures did not house Mishra's malevolent creations but were themselves among his creations.

[maiden widget]

[[solitary confinement]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/265/solitary-confinement

Solitary Confinement <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this enchantment unless you discard a card.
Skip your draw step.
You have shroud. (You can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you.

[maiden widget]

This card is so good late game

[white mirage]

Heyo newer to commander and was wondering what makes necropotence so good here?

[maiden widget]

Prolly because you can pay 4 life on command so easier to prog yshtola

And see extra cards is good

[wide quiver]

It's life loss on demand, and insane card advantage

[fervent burrow]

Reminder Yshtola says "any player" losing 4 life

[maiden widget]

Yeah sometime I intentionally taking 4 damage from atk just for that instead of blocking

[void grove]

You can just pay 4 life to trigger your commander

Also it's a 3 mana no creature

[maiden widget]

Yeah yshtola is one of the deck that you can just play any esper crap that 3 cmc

I want to put in [[mystic gemora]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/59/mystic-remora

Mystic Remora <:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Cumulative upkeep (At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice it unless you pay its upkeep cost for each age counter on it.)
Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, you may draw a card unless that player pays .

[maiden widget]

Because I think we don’t have enough draw

[void grove]

Y'shtola seems more fair than vivi but also still broken af

[white mirage]

Ah i see

You can do the ability more than once on your turn

[void grove]

Yeah so you can just drain yourself for 4 every turn

Though that will kill you eventually

[white mirage]

That makes a lot more sense to me

Thank ya

[void grove]

It's a very strong card in general too

A rate of 1 life for 1 card is very good

[white mirage]

Yeah especially since im assuming card draw will be very needed 😂

[void grove]

Well everyone wants card draw in general yeah

I don't play necropotence in any decks just because it's so strong as card draw

[mild harness]

[[cyclonic rift]] yes, no?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/40/cyclonic-rift

Cyclonic Rift <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return target nonland permanent you don't control to its owner's hand.
Overload (You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")
The Izzet specialize in unnatural disaster.

[maiden widget]

Vivi is different kinda broken lol

[maiden widget]

Won’t prog yshtola thou

[mild harness]

Correct, but it’s also a mass board clear

[maiden widget]

Lol it’s also pricey

[mild harness]

Money wise?

[maiden widget]

And mana wise too lmao

[mild harness]

Or mana value wise

[maiden widget]

Both

[mild harness]

I have one, just got it yesterday

[maiden widget]

I love keep 6-7 mana open when I passed

[mild harness]

Lmao

I run stuff like [[kykar, zephyr awakener]] and Hermes in the deck, so it’s also a way to open up the board for me to swing in for a turn or 2

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/122/kykar-zephyr-awakener

Kykar, Zephyr Awakener <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Bird Wizard
Flying
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, choose one —
• Exile another target creature you control. Return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.
• Create a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying.
3/4

[maiden widget]

I never atk with this deck lol

[mild harness]

Fair lol

[maiden widget]

I just sit on propaganda, ghostly prison, solitary confinement and 2 yshtola

[mild harness]

[[solitary confinement]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/265/solitary-confinement

Solitary Confinement <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this enchantment unless you discard a card.
Skip your draw step.
You have shroud. (You can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you.

[mild harness]

Prevents you from getting hit with target effect damage, nice

And damage in general

[maiden widget]

You have to establish wait to draw except your draw step thou

Way*

[mild harness]

Necropotence, get enough off yshtola, etc?

[wide quiver]

I haven't had any issue with drawing

[mild harness]

My biggest issue right now is early game

I still haven’t gotten a proper mana base or a chromatic lantern for the deck

[wide quiver]

Honestly the precon mana base is alright, swapping snarls out for the other painlands

And adding in a few mdfcs

[mild harness]

I’d add in the missing parts and shocks and the triome personally

[wide quiver]

Well yeah, shocks, fetches, and triomes make everything better

But it's completely workable without tbh

[mild harness]

Yeah

[maiden widget]

I play bounce land lmao

It’s very bad

[wide quiver]

Bounce lands 🐐

[maiden widget]

I played a bounce land turn 2 and someone destroy it

I left with no lands lol

[wide quiver]

That's a risk us chads are willing to take

[maiden widget]

Today I got yshtola with Ophidian eye, tandem lookout, and curiosity attached

Everytime I cast something I draw 1/11 of deck

[compact vine]

Deck came with Thought Vessel, but I kinda want to add Decanter and Reliquary Tower. We have a LOT of draw power

Thoughts?

[wide quiver]

Both are reasonable

[compact vine]

Sorry I’ve been asking like a question a day, I’m kinda new to MTG deckbuilding

[wide quiver]

Ask all the questions you want!

That's what this server and this channel are for!

[willow steppe]

im workiong on like

a hateful version of this commander

i was considering how stax zur is built so

thoughts [[Overburden]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/pcy/39/overburden

Overburden <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever a player puts a nontoken creature onto the battlefield, that player returns a land they control to its owner's hand.
The Kipamu League knew what Keld refused to acknowledge: the land could support no more.

[willow steppe]

cuz i feel like imma just play like 1 creature

also considering [[mana breach]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/7ed/85/mana-breach

Mana Breach <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever a player casts a spell, that player returns a land they control to its owner's hand.
The mana that binds the world together can also tear it apart.

[fervent burrow]

I don't know if either are great in Yshtola, as you want to be casting each turn, no?

[wide quiver]

Overburden is better, but I wouldn't run either

[elder lagoon]

Wow, y'all are at nearly 4,600 messages

Y'all are cooking

[wide quiver]

😎

[elder lagoon]

What are some ideas for the deck that seem fun?

Y'shtola voltron sounds really cool

[wide quiver]

The [[reaper's scythe]] is neat for a voltron-y build

[elder lagoon]

Being all noncreature spells makes her really open ended

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/48/reapers-scythe

Reaper's Scythe <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Artifact — Equipment
Job select
At the beginning of your end step, put a soul counter on this Equipment for each player who lost life this turn.
Equipped creature gets +1/+1 for each soul counter on this Equipment and is an Assassin in addition to its other types.
Death Sickle — Equip

[elder lagoon]

Oh diggity

That's good

[wide quiver]

[[caduceus staff]] would be very good too

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/acr/2/caduceus-staff-of-hermes

Caduceus, Staff of Hermes <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature has lifelink.
As long as you have 30 or more life, equipped creature gets +5/+5 and has indestructible and "Prevent all damage that would be dealt to this creature."
Equip
It can be a key, a weapon, and a way to attain great power.

[elder lagoon]

Oh double ew

[wide quiver]

Since you want her to have lifelink anyways, and it offers protection

As for other voltron-y pieces that we run in control shells anyways:
[[steel of the godhead]], [[helm of the ghastlord]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ddi/30/steel-of-the-godhead

Steel of the Godhead <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manawu:292901508696113153>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
As long as enchanted creature is white, it gets +1/+1 and has lifelink. (Damage dealt by the creature also causes its controller to gain that much life.)
As long as enchanted creature is blue, it gets +1/+1 and can't be blocked.

https://scryfall.com/card/shm/166/helm-of-the-ghastlord

Helm of the Ghastlord <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaub:292901509056692224>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
As long as enchanted creature is blue, it gets +1/+1 and has "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, draw a card."
As long as enchanted creature is black, it gets +1/+1 and has "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, that player discards a card."

[wide quiver]

I like [[vanishing]] too

Especially if you're attaching stuff to her

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/vis/48/vanishing

Vanishing <:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
: Enchanted creature phases out. (While it's phased out, it's treated as though it doesn't exist. It phases in before its controller untaps during their next untap step.)
"Careless, like a child with fire, so was I with time." —Teferi

[willow steppe]

does this commander

just kinf of sit there

and drian people

and just kill the board'

[elder lagoon]

Can!

[willow steppe]

idk how to make her

[elder lagoon]

That's why this thread exists - lots of ways to build her, not just draining

[willow steppe]

i am working on enchtress yshtola

[elder lagoon]

What's something to do with noncreature spells that you like?

Yeah, enchantress is sick!

[willow steppe]

what are like

fun enchtress options

[elder lagoon]

Well, you could always slam an omniscience

[willow steppe]

im looking at master of keys list

i think my 3 game changers will just be bolas citadel, smothering tide and rhystic study

i just kinda wanna do like a tax esper vibe

u know?

[elder lagoon]

There's definitely space for that

[willow steppe]

ok imma see what i cook up

[chrome sparrow]

Quick question about Y'shtola before I build her. Her end step trigger. Do you draw 1 for Each player that took 4 damage or only one?

[elder lagoon]

[[y'shtola|fic]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/7/yshtola-nights-blessed

Y'shtola, Night's Blessed <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Cat Warlock
Vigilance
At the beginning of each end step, if a player lost 4 or more life this turn, you draw a card.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell with mana value 3 or greater, Y'shtola deals 2 damage to each opponent and you gain 2 life.
2/4

[elder lagoon]

You draw one card

It's a yes/no question, not a how many

[chrome sparrow]

Very much less excited to play her now

[elder lagoon]

Importantly, it happens each end step, not just yours

And it doesn't care about whether you were the one causing the life loss

[chrome sparrow]

Time to just slap curiosity on her

or infect if I want everyone to hate me

[fervent burrow]

Infect, I find you'll die instantly bevayse people will expect you to finish the job

But curiosity does a lot of work. Also reminder you don't need to cause the dmg - I drew just as many cards that I triggered off of other players hitting each other (or me)

[chrome sparrow]

I'm probably going to build her and Choco cause funny bird

[willow steppe]

choco is funny

[willow steppe]

i literally am planning on doing enchantress stuff

and pillowfort myself

and just tax them out

[fervent burrow]

Always a viable strategy

Don't forget to bring your finishers like [[exsanguinate]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/173/exsanguinate

Exsanguinate <:manax:292901509082120202><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Each opponent loses X life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.
"I didn't say I would help you find your way home. I said I would help you finish your adventure."

[fervent burrow]

Also I found clones are SUPER effective and looking to add more to my list

Turns out casting 1 spell and getting twice the draw and guaranteed 4 life makes it play out a TON smoother

[willow steppe]

how many are u running?

[fervent burrow]

Currently 3, using Irenicus, Quantum Misalignment, and (not technically a clone) Delney

[willow steppe]

there is also spark double and sakashima as well that i considered

but it doesnt work as well

[fervent burrow]

Yeah, will be evaluating which thing comes up on the list. But having played with 2 clones at once in a game I realize at least having 1 out when possible is 4x as efficient for the general gameplan (cast/draw)

[willow steppe]

yall idk what to cut https://archidekt.com/decks/14003174/yshtola_the_true_endwalker_experience

i took inspo frome veryone list

and kinda just jammed them together

but im trying to fine tune it to be lik enchantress focused

the question is

what do i use as finisher

[compact vine]

Greater Auramancy? >_>

[willow steppe]

ya

it gives everything shroud

[compact vine]

Yes haha

I was suggesting it

[willow steppe]

ooo

ya its in there

the issue now is

cuts

[compact vine]

Is Frantic Search as free as it seems?

And would Signets be better than Talismans?

[fervent burrow]

Frantic search is definitely free - talismans are better

Not only for fixing purposes, as you'll heal yourself - but I also definitely used talismans to deal 4 damage to me (total) twice. Thus talismans drew me 2 extra cards

IE once I used fetch/shock/talismans and another I was hit for 3 damage and used talisman jusy to proc 4 for draw since i had like 2 mana up

[compact vine]

Frantic search also burns though

Oh you mean instead of signets

I’m so sorry

So I should throw in Frantic Search then? XD

[fervent burrow]

I'm a big fan of frantic

Hand filtering for free + yshtola trigger is solid. Plus I have at least 2 lands that tap for more than 1 mana, and with frantic it becomes mana positive

[compact vine]

Sold!

Also dig the pfp XD

[wide quiver]

I love frantic, and I love hitting myself for 4

[compact vine]

Just threw Frantic and Reliquary Tower in

Have to find my old Tasha deck so I can find my Decanter

[willow steppe]

guys

i made a prision yshtola build

its rule of law yshtola

and i just drain people out

like

I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE WINCONS but it just doesnt do anything

[compact vine]

Part of me wants to swap out some lands for more basics >_>

I’ve never played a 3 colour deck before. The basic count seems low

[willow steppe]

uhhh chromatic lantern is pretty ok in 3 colors

otherwise if u wanna proxie, i would say proxie the dual lands

they also help when u have fecthes

[compact vine]

I have one of those in that same Tasha deck XD

Nah, I’ve got the Battlebonds but no fetches

[willow steppe]

ooo

hmmm

if u have basics then its ok

i woudl run signets with basics then

to color fix

[compact vine]

I’m sure I have at least Dimir and Orzhov signet

I’ve never played Azorius because it’s for cops >_>

[willow steppe]

Me having a kefka deck irl

I’m literally stealing everyone thing

And making everyone discard

It’s a mean deck

[compact vine]

I just traded away my massive Kefka pull

[willow steppe]

Danggg

[compact vine]

Traded it for borderless Y’shtola and money

[elder lagoon]

Heck yeah

I want the foil borderless one

W/ the numbers in the bg

[compact vine]

For Y’shtola? I did too, but I made do with non foil haha

I’ll get a foil sleeve or some shit

[elder lagoon]

Nah I want kefka w that

[compact vine]

Ohhhhh gotcha

[compact vine]

This one is CRAZY expensive

Like 270 last I looked?

[maiden widget]

Today I acquired extended non foil esper yshtola

Go with my tradition of playing non foil card so they won’t bend during heat weather

[compact vine]

Very nice

How’s Starting Town here?

[maiden widget]

I think starting town just good in any commander deck that multi color

[mild harness]

you know, reading the card explains the card

[[!Transpose]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/52/transpose

Transpose

[mild harness]

i completely skipped the fact it had rebound

[maiden widget]

Card still bad DW

[compact vine]

Roger that

[lusty igloo]

the rebound doesnt even make a wizard

[mild harness]

i picked up a japanese extended foil, im going to run it regardless lol

[lusty igloo]

surge?

[mild harness]

no

[lusty igloo]

im going to give up on surges

[mild harness]

pringles in a square

[lusty igloo]

well I'm buying the Celes surges... in November

y'shtola is just too expensive

[mild harness]

too much

[lusty igloo]

ya it's auto-include

[maiden widget]

When I first play the card I feel scammed when I didn’t even get the second wizard

When I first started building the deck I was thinking of making it full on black mage token go brrrrrrr

Bc there so many cards that make black mage (wizard) token in the set

[compact vine]

I’m doing that with Kuja >_>

[lusty igloo]

have u played wtih it yet? im not having trouble killing people without combos

[mild harness]

should I relink my decklist even though its pinned or nah

[lusty igloo]

what for?

[mild harness]

im wanting to add Cyclonic Rift, and debating on what to cut

[lusty igloo]

are you currently b2

dont move into b3 for cyclonic

i dont see any other gamechangers

[mild harness]

im planning on adding tithe and rhystic

[lusty igloo]

im a rhystic hater

curiosity is just stronger in lower brackets

[mild harness]

im a rhystic lover because nobody pays for it

lmao

[lusty igloo]

i'd rather play fierce + force

we have more than eneough draws

[mild harness]

what cards are those

[lusty igloo]

fierce guardianship

force of will

[mild harness]

ahh

[[deadly rollick]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/147/deadly-rollick

Deadly Rollick <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
If you control a commander, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Exile target creature.
Otrimi was disappointed at how quickly its new friend got tired and stopped playing.

[lusty igloo]

yeah every free commander spell

[mild harness]

what about [[force of negation]]?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/50/force-of-negation

Force of Negation <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
If it's not your turn, you may exile a blue card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.
Counter target noncreature spell. If that spell is countered this way, exile it instead of putting it into its owner's graveyard.
"Try, if you must."

[lusty igloo]

you can use waterlogged teachings as a counterspell if you have fierece guardianship

yeah i have that too

every free spell

[mild harness]

makes sense

but yeah, i got my first rift, its the hope aero magic rift

and i want to run it in yshtola

probably not smart but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[maiden widget]

Ok folk

[lusty igloo]

capsize gotta go

[mild harness]

one more mana just lets me overload rift

[maiden widget]

[[haystack]] for our cat girl

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/sld/802/haystack

Haystack <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Artifact
, : Target creature you control phases out. (Treat it and anything attached to it as though they don't exist until your next turn.)

[lusty igloo]

that 4/2 goad card is just better than capsize

[lusty igloo]

dont like it

[mild harness]

helpful but youre also losing out draws on opponents turns depending on when you gotta phase

[lusty igloo]

^

[maiden widget]

me haystack before farewell

[mild harness]

me hitting that farewell all modes

[lusty igloo]

Deny the Witch -> switch to cheaper counterspell i think. you dont have many creatures and its mana intensive

[mild harness]

i told a friend of mine i did that yesterday and they got upset at me for doing it lol

[maiden widget]

I still live before farewell hit no ?

[lusty igloo]

im not sure the idea of Murderous Rider // Swift End

[mild harness]

it does

[[dovin's veto]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/war/193/dovins-veto

Dovin's Veto <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
This spell can't be countered.
Counter target noncreature spell.
"I see you've learned nothing, Chandra. You'd still put a match to something rather than understand it."

[mild harness]

[[disallow]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/aer/31/disallow

Disallow <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target spell, activated ability, or triggered ability. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
"How easily your flames are quenched." —Baral, Chief of Compliance

[mild harness]

disallow would put in more work than deny the witch

[lusty igloo]

sorry im not very good at make deck suggestions that im not familiar with and havent goldfished. so sorry if my suggestions mold your deck into my control deck variant

but im curious why not run more one-sided boardwipes

im not a fan of the one target removals like Murderous Rider // Swift End when there are others that do one for each or just straight up board wipe

[mild harness]

like [[Slaughter the strong]] [[battle of bywater]] etc?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/131/slaughter-the-strong

Slaughter the Strong <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player chooses any number of creatures they control with total power 4 or less, then sacrifices all other creatures they control.
"Cut the beasts out from under them and their strength is nothing." —Vona of Iedo, Butcher of Magan

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/2/the-battle-of-bywater

The Battle of Bywater <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures with power 3 or greater. Then create a Food token for each creature you control. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
The Tooks marched in with Pippin at their head. Merry now had enough sturdy Hobbitry to deal with the ruffians.

[lusty igloo]

yeah

[mild harness]

i didnt have them

[lusty igloo]

oh

buioliding from what you own already?

[mild harness]

all these changes were from cards I had

[lusty igloo]

kk

[mild harness]

although the torment of hailfire was something i picked up specifically for this deck

[lusty igloo]

can you explain the idea behind the deck. how does it play, what's the wincons, etc

[mild harness]

because funny meme borderless

[lusty igloo]

im kinda confused by things like the entire tokens section

[maiden widget]

[[slaughter the strong]] is my fav board wipe for this deck ngl

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/131/slaughter-the-strong

Slaughter the Strong <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player chooses any number of creatures they control with total power 4 or less, then sacrifices all other creatures they control.
"Cut the beasts out from under them and their strength is nothing." —Vona of Iedo, Butcher of Magan

[mild harness]

honestly

its like mid control with a token subtheme to have a board

elspeth is there because a friend suggested it

but i dislike how expensive she is

[lusty igloo]

if you wanan do the thing i recommended fish just get like 7 one-sided board wipes that keep one of your creatures alive lol. i just gave up on having creatures most of the time

idk i think it's a lost cause. a go-wide dedck is gonna murder us even if we have 3 random 1/1s

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I have 5 of them

[mild harness]

fair

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Still need to cut clensing nova

[mild harness]

its why i want to add cyrift

memes on go wide

[lusty igloo]

yeah u can ig

but the 1-sided board wipes are laso like 30 cents if u ever wanna shill out

[mild harness]

fair

ngl if I wanted to do like hard control

id probably cut all of the token stuff but kykar and hermes

add in kismet, winter orb/static orb

[lusty igloo]

those are banned i think

winter orb

[mild harness]

no

[lusty igloo]

i asked in discord they said it was banned

in b3

[mild harness]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it would be b4

not denying that

just saying if I wanted to go down that route thats what id add

[lusty igloo]

i see

[mild harness]

i thought you meant banned as a whole

[lusty igloo]

nope

to me b4 = banend since no one plays it

[mild harness]

static orb is probably MLD too

[[Static Orb]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/7ed/319/static-orb

Static Orb <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
As long as this artifact is untapped, players can't untap more than two permanents during their untap steps.
The warriors fought against the paralyzing waves until even their thoughts froze in place.

[mild harness]

but yeah, kinda mid control/pacing is what this deck is meant to be

[lusty igloo]

im a fan of the clones personally

[maiden widget]

Cloning yshtola is fun

[mild harness]

like uh [[spark double]]?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/62/spark-double

Spark Double <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Illusion
You may have this creature enter as a copy of a creature or planeswalker you control, except it enters with an additional +1/+1 counter on it if it's a creature, it enters with an additional loyalty counter on it if it's a planeswalker, and it isn't legendary.
0/0

[maiden widget]

Nah

Spark double mid

[lusty igloo]

it's ok as a 3rd option

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[[vile duplication]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/78/irenicuss-vile-duplication

Irenicus's Vile Duplication <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except the token has flying and it isn't legendary.
"You will serve me better in this form." —Jon Irenicus

[lusty igloo]

it's ivle + quantumn

[mild harness]

ivle and quantumn?

[lusty igloo]

dont sleep on the flying in vile it's nice to get the yshtola proc on your turn

[maiden widget]

[[quantum misalignment]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/52/quantum-misalignment

Quantum Misalignment <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except it isn't legendary.
Rebound (If you cast this spell from your hand, exile it as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost.)

[mild harness]

oh god

[[crackdown]] is a thing

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mmq/15/crackdown

Crackdown <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Nonwhite creatures with power 3 or greater don't untap during their controllers' untap steps.
"There is no place for mercy in defense of our lives." —Ta-Spon, Cho-Arrim executioner

[lusty igloo]

the two fish linked are the best since they're sorceries

[maiden widget]

This have rebounded

[lusty igloo]

i dropped [[meekstone]] effects because

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/7ed/307/meekstone

Meekstone <:mana1:292901508373282827>

Artifact
Creatures with power 3 or greater don't untap during their controllers' untap steps.
The bigger they are, the stronger its pull.

[lusty igloo]

they make everyone attack you

[mild harness]

true

[maiden widget]

Rebounce*

[lusty igloo]

keep the pillowfort and maybe at norns as well

[[norn's annex]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/829/norns-annex

Norn's Annex <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manawp:292901508826005515><:manawp:292901508826005515>

Artifact
( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Creatures can't attack you or planeswalkers you control unless their controller pays for each of those creatures.

[mild harness]

i only see meekstone in things like [[Felothar]] and [[Arcades, Strategist]]

[surreal shoal]

Multiple cards match “Felothar”, can you be more specific?

https://scryfall.com/card/m19/212/arcades-the-strategist

Arcades, the Strategist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Elder Dragon
Flying, vigilance
Whenever a creature you control with defender enters, draw a card.
Each creature you control with defender assigns combat damage equal to its toughness rather than its power and can attack as though it didn't have defender.
3/5

[mild harness]

basically high toughness matters

[lusty igloo]

this one is nice since it's a ysthola proccer. if they attack you they give you draws (paying white is hard)

and you can proc yshtola yourself buying norns

[mild harness]

[[Crawlspace]] and [[silent arbiter]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/217/crawlspace

Crawlspace <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
No more than two creatures can attack you each combat.
"Not so scary when you can't squeeze through the air ducts, are you?"

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/972/silent-arbiter

Silent Arbiter <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact Creature — Construct
No more than one creature can attack each combat.
No more than one creature can block each combat.
Scholars say that arbiters exist on every world, created by an unknown hand to enforce justice.
1/5

[maiden widget]

Ok so your perfect board is 4 yshtola

[lusty igloo]

crawlspace looks good

[maiden widget]

And [[delney, street]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/12/delney-streetwise-lookout

Delney, Streetwise Lookout <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Legendary Creature — Human Scout
Creatures you control with power 2 or less can't be blocked by creatures with power 3 or greater.
If an ability of a creature you control with power 2 or less triggers, that ability triggers an additional time.
"It's not a matter of what I know. It's a matter of making it worth my while to tell you."
2/2

[mild harness]

delney nuts

okay so

[maiden widget]

It’s 16 damage per spell

[lusty igloo]

fish have u gotten people complaining about your deck yet

i havent played it since someone told me "i took the fun out of the game"

that offhand remark got to me ngl

[mild harness]

Crawlspace
Norn's Annex
Irenicus's Vile Duplication
Quantum Misalignment
The Battle of Bywater
Slaughter the Strong
Helm of the Ghastlord
Vile Consumption
Retribution of the Meek

Maybe
Expel the Interlopers
Fell The Mighty

Nanogene conversion seems funny

[lusty igloo]

the other board wipes that let yshtola live are

Tragic Arrogance
Starfall Invocation
Single Combat
Promise of Loyalty

it bad

i tried

[mild harness]

i figured

but funny at minimum

[maiden widget]

Nah the deck is fair because sometimes you just lose to a fast start voltron or go wide deck

[lusty igloo]

it's high 3

im winning 70%+ rn

[maiden widget]

And not a lot of people just gonna let you set up lol

[mild harness]

[[tragic arrogance]] [[starfall invocation]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/109/tragic-arrogance

Tragic Arrogance <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
For each player, you choose from among the permanents that player controls an artifact, a creature, an enchantment, and a planeswalker. Then each player sacrifices all other nonland permanents they control.
The spear thrown by Kytheon's own hand was the weapon that felled his friends.

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/34/starfall-invocation

Starfall Invocation <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Gift a card (You may promise an opponent a gift as you cast this spell. If you do, they draw a card before its other effects.)
Destroy all creatures. If the gift was promised, return a creature card put into your graveyard this way to the battlefield under your control.
Nothing lurks in the purity of the moon's light.

[maiden widget]

My tables usually high 3 to 4

[lusty igloo]

mmmm

yeah it's fair there

it bullies tf outta low 3s

like most high 3s

i notice you cant play high 3 vs low 3s. the gap is just too wdie

im making some low 3 decks

[[Kambal, Consul of Allocation]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/237/kambal-consul-of-allocation

Kambal, Consul of Allocation <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, that player loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
He has "friends" in places both high and low, and all seem to owe him favors.
2/3

[maiden widget]

I lost to ghyrson Vivi deck today lmao

[lusty igloo]

[[Tandem Lookout]] worst of the bunch but i still include it

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mm3/53/tandem-lookout

Tandem Lookout <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Scout
Soulbond (You may pair this creature with another unpaired creature when either enters. They remain paired for as long as you control both of them.)
As long as Tandem Lookout is paired with another creature, each of those creatures has "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, draw a card."
2/1

[lusty igloo]

dont sleep on [[solitary confinement]]. it's backbreaking

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/265/solitary-confinement

Solitary Confinement <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this enchantment unless you discard a card.
Skip your draw step.
You have shroud. (You can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you.

[lusty igloo]

iwth a curisoity effect

you have a ton of counterspells to protect it

[mild harness]

oh yeah

problem commander you dont want them to recast

[[Oubliette]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/100/oubliette

Oubliette <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
When this enchantment enters, target creature phases out until this enchantment leaves the battlefield. Tap that creature as it phases in this way. (Auras and Equipment phase out with it. While permanents are phased out, they're treated as though they don't exist.)

[lusty igloo]

yeah that seems nice

toxic tho

[mild harness]

well

quit playing koma, jerry

[lusty igloo]

lol

[mild harness]

and maybe you'll keep your commander

[maiden widget]

Bro I learned today Vivi is just kinda better yshtola and I kinda pissed haha

[lusty igloo]

it's a good thing

[mild harness]

so i decided to look into propaganda effects

[lusty igloo]

if y'shtola was vivi you'd get instant hate and groans the second you boot up a game

also ppl complaining you're too high bracket

[mild harness]

theres a graveyard hate one

[lusty igloo]

vivi takes the hate from y'shtola

[mild harness]

[[web of inertia]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/jud/53/web-of-inertia

Web of Inertia <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
At the beginning of combat on each opponent's turn, that player may exile a card from their graveyard. If the player doesn't, creatures they control can't attack you this turn.
Cephalids specialize in lose-lose situations.

[mild harness]

theres quite a few life manipulation ones like [[revenge of the ravens]] and [[orim's prayer]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/67/revenge-of-the-rats

Revenge of the Rats <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Create a tapped 1/1 black Rat creature token for each creature card in your graveyard.
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
"The cats are behaving oddly today. Almost like they're all scared of something." —Entry in a heavily chewed journal

https://scryfall.com/card/tmp/32/orims-prayer

Orim's Prayer <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever one or more creatures attack you, you gain 1 life for each attacking creature.
"As usual, there will be time for prayer only after the worst happens." —Orim, Samite healer

[maiden widget]

[[ghostly prison]] is good enough

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/116/ghostly-prison

Ghostly Prison <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Creatures can't attack you unless their controller pays for each creature they control that's attacking you.
"May the memory of our fallen heroes ensnare the violent hearts of lesser men." —Great Threshold of Monserkat inscription

[mild harness]

oh

dear

how often do you guys deal with go wide decks

[lusty igloo]

those are the easiest to deal with

[mild harness]

hear me out

would you like to nuke their board when they attack anyone just with 1 enchantment

[lusty igloo]

aristocrats has been kind of a pain for me

[maiden widget]

Yeah just drop a board wipe

[mild harness]

[[lightmine field]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/roe/32/lightmine-field

Lightmine Field <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Whenever one or more creatures attack, this enchantment deals damage to each of those creatures equal to the number of attacking creatures.
If you want to kill a lot of goblins, just make sure your defenses look like fun.

[lusty igloo]

or solitary or pillowfort

hmm idk about that one

[maiden widget]

Here me out

[lusty igloo]

the creatures player is only attacking you now lol

[mild harness]

and if they only have weenies

those weenies get blown up

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[[solitary confinement]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/265/solitary-confinement

Solitary Confinement <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this enchantment unless you discard a card.
Skip your draw step.
You have shroud. (You can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you.

[maiden widget]

Watch them suffer

[lusty igloo]

true it murders weenies

[mild harness]

and if theyre playing voltron it does nothing so they have no reason to target me

"ill swing my 14/14, it takes 1 damage"

btw its got 400 keywords and banding somehow

[lusty igloo]

ppl hate on this card for some reason. it wins me a lot of games

[mild harness]

i was just looking at effects like this

[lusty igloo]

people dont run enough enchantment removalf or all your counterspells

i still died to aristocrats because losing life doesnt count as damage

[maiden widget]

You have to drop it when you have a good draw engine established ngl

[lusty igloo]

aristocrats seems to hurt me even if i boardwipe them

[mild harness]

at least its not [[absolute virtue]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fin/212/absolute-virtue

Absolute Virtue <:mana6:292901508780130304><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Avatar Warrior
This spell can't be countered.
Flying
You have protection from each of your opponents. (You can't be dealt damage, enchanted, or targeted by anything controlled by your opponents.)
8/8

[lusty igloo]

just one curiosity is enough

i used to use land tax with it too

but i had to drop land tax

not enough absics

[maiden widget]

This deck feel best when you do all the unfair esper stuff

[mild harness]

[[ivory mask]] is a 1 mana higher better confinement

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/9ed/23/ivory-mask

Ivory Mask <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
You have shroud. (You can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Made from its wearer's hopes, the mask ensures that those hopes will be fulfilled.

[lusty igloo]

i'd play this maybe if it was 2 mana less or something

[maiden widget]

Nah

[lusty igloo]

you cant be dealt damage from solitary confinement

[maiden widget]

The “you don’t take damage” is more important

[mild harness]

ah fair

surprised i havent seen a [[stasis coffin]] comment

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/bro/245/the-stasis-coffin

The Stasis Coffin <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Legendary Artifact
, , Exile The Stasis Coffin: You gain protection from everything until your next turn.
Tawnos built it to be absolutely impermeable to any force inside. Luckily it worked for any force outside as well.

[mild harness]

or feldons cane/elixir of immortality

[lusty igloo]

i didnt see the exile part and was like wtf that's broken

[mild harness]

lmfao

[[blessed sanctuary]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/1/blessed-sanctuary

Blessed Sanctuary <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment
Prevent all noncombat damage that would be dealt to you and creatures you control.
Whenever a nontoken creature you control enters, create a 2/2 white Unicorn creature token.

[lusty igloo]

only non-combat doe

[maiden widget]

Protect you against brynson

[lusty igloo]

[[brynson]]

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “brynson”