#Y'shtola Communal Brewing
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That said, I am using rhystic as one of my GCs
[[render silent]] is a "fun" offensive counter
I've got this self pulled rhystic that I've not had a chance to put in a deck for months
Running staples puts a bad taste in my mouth though
I don’t want to get uninvited
It's pulling straight cheeks
yeah i run 0 GCs i already push the tables buttons enough lmao
[[Tataru taru]]
So this is a card
I don't own one yet so I can let it slide
And it's in the lrecon
This card is funny in Mrs Bumbleflower
It's basically a smothering
it went straight out of my precon straight into my girlfriends bumble deck, yeah
It's smothering if it wasn't free
It's when they draw not on their turn
bumble triggers smother on every draw you hand out if they cant pay, but tataru just does it once
👀 smothering if you can’t afford $40
Unfortunately
theyre tapped, granted, but it draws significantly less hate
It's already creeping past $20 locally
Who ?
Tataru
Wait really ?
that tracks, unfortunately lmao
Cards been super popular here
It's over performing the card kingdom price, that usually never happens
What 3 GC are we running ?
We usually just price CK1
itd be in mine too since i dont run any grouphug decks lol
I'm doing rhystic, tithe and fierce guardianship
Realistically I think force of will is better than rhystic
I’m doing Narset, Bolas, smothering
Then you realize how often some people are drawing not on their turn
Bolas seems pretty good, yeah
Bc 2 of them actually affordable lmao
It's significantly better in bracket 4 tho
Narset is GC because of the very unfun interaction with wheels
Yeah, both Narset and Notion Thief are there for that
Wait what wheels ?
if i was running GCs id probably go bolas, force of will, and fierce guardianship
Notion thief is much better than narset generically imo
[[wheel of fortune]]
Oh
for a blue version [[windfall]]
Each player discards their hands, you draw 21
Is there a GC list I can look ?
Basically force everyone to discard and draw 0
Isn't it 28?
edhrec has a list of commonly used GCs for shtola
https://edhrec.com/commanders/yshtola-nights-blessed
Since you draw 7 yourself too
a game breaking amount of draw, basically lol
That said, it's just really disgusting
It's not just the draw, it's the discard
You're hoping for the top deck to have an answer
Realistically, game is already over
Unless the board somehow kills you
I saw someone play all the black mage cards in a Kefka deck, and they seemed pretty strong tbh
Just seeing transpose in that list
i have [[helm of the ghastlord]] in the deck and i am so glad i didnt draw it after seeing my girlfriend's reaction to me playing a singular mill+discard card in my ninjas deck the next game lmao
Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature
As long as enchanted creature is blue, it gets +1/+1 and has "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, draw a card."
As long as enchanted creature is black, it gets +1/+1 and has "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, that player discards a card."
The black mage cards do get better when there is. Critical mass
lol
Honestly, there are some cards that I question belongs in a b3 yshtola list
yeah you kinda wanna run as many of them as you can if youre committing to it, but they felt a bit too inconsequential in this deck when i tried em
Ghastlord, sigil of sleep etc
So you draw 3
?
oh its much worse
Yeah sigil of sleep seems so oppressive
No, everyone discards one
you make everyone else drop a card too
But you’re blue too right ?
yep, so you draw 3 and everyone drops a card
You can theoretically make people never have a single card
It's a [[siphon mind]] on every cast
Literally on draw step, just cast a card
They can't respond unless it's instant speed
eeyep, it can get ugly fast lmao
Or so add in curiosity and Ophidian Eye I can draw 9 ?
Pretty much
dont forget the end step draw too lmao
There's like 4 curiosity effects if you include the lookout
I’m cutting one ngl
and god forbid you have copies of shtola on board, dear lord it turns into a massacre
I had 4 copy of her at 1 point
for extra meanness, try [[phyresis]] 
That said, I think [[desynchronization]] is really good
5 spells and the tables done
[[quantum misalignment]]
Weirdly goated
i mean [[staff of compleation]] already gets run in my deck so it was a natural fit honestly, but i couldnt bring myself to run the infect package
Play with radstorm if you really want to be mean
i run misalignment, spark double, vile duplication, and delney for my copy package
So I was retooling my manabase
i wonder whether it'd be worth it to run [[strionic resonator]]
21/50 cards can hurt me
I’m thinking of getting the weird lady that can copy
mmm i love pain mana
[[gogo, master]]
Legendary Creature — Wizard

,
: Copy target activated or triggered ability you control X times. You may choose new targets for the copies. This ability can't be copied and X can't be 0. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
"I see... so, you seek to save the world. Then I guess that means I shall save the world as well. Lead on! I will copy your every move."
2/4
^
Plus they are way cheaper
But the cereal version of that card lol
lmao i mean if you have it go for it, but that goes for a hefty price last i checked
So the joke is that yshtola is secretly a suicide deck
I won’t go for it
I haven't included all the black cards that cost life yet
Honestly early game of this deck sucks
I think I can easily get 30-40 sources of self inflicted dmg
i mean shtola dies like 4 times in the game, this checks out
or something along those lines
But I know some players are choosing to move away from more pain since they get targeted alot
the south park kenny of xiv
Usually I took 20-25 damage before I start winning
She canonically gets the one good fake death
i find the pain sources help draw aggro away honestly
[[emet-selch, the]]
but that might just be the newer players at my table
Idk why I haven’t cut him yet
Cause he is great?
ive had good results with him, yeah
Lmao I just think he’s hot
And yes he is the sassiest
Also
shtola triggers his ability to discount graveyard spells and breaks timing restrictions on sorceries
[[fandaniel]]
I love this card after a board wipe
I've been iffy on fandaniel
ive been just instinctively pitching sorceries that i dont want to immediately cast in case i draw emet so he can do it for me
same
5 cmc is steep
Yet he does little early
Don’t draw him early
i guess he can help fuel emet tbf
Post board wipe, I have both emets
The more expensive emet is also really good
He's just yawgmoths will
Until they Farewell your grave
I actually just pulled Krikk today
i was trying to fit krirk in, i totally missed that they printed an emet krirk lmao
Unfortunately, yshtola doesn't really benefit from mono U yshtola
not too much unfortunately yeah
she technically doubles the draw trigger, but thats about it
Honestly we should cook emet decks
That said, not the biggest fan of the art
I much prefer the other emets
I really like the FFXIV version of the deck
Lol he make spell cheap
see i dont run unsundered and i really wish third seat had unsundereds art because i really like that art better
And help you draw
Most of the cast plays really well tgt
Profit
I have the art card as my copy token
It's my favorite pull from my 2 prerelease boxes
ah i was lucky and pulled a full art foil of her, dodged the surge, but ill absolutely take what i got
It's especially nice since it came from my first ever pack
I also have the alt art zenos to put inside
Is it really that good, not really
Is it still a fun add, yeaa
Zenos is suck a meme card as commander
From as horrible my pack value was, it did have the bangers I actually wanted
It's 10/10 flavor
Man literally came back from the dead just to fight us
If you play ff14 you know the reference lol
Man literally took down an empire to force us to fight him
men will do anything but go to therapy tbh
He help us destroyed the creature that will end the world to have a 1v1 with us
He is such a controversial character in the fans eyes
That said, he is pretty much the biggest stereotype of a MMO raid player
Fk everything else, I just want a good fight
oh wow yeah thats sick lol
Man y'all actually got to open collector packs
Emet is from play packs
You walked away with more money than 99.9% of people
ah gotcha
I sold the Vivi to a CEDH player
This was my one good bonus card from my 14 total packs of FF
It will go into yshtola tho
Oh wait
It's a great art and FF themed
haha sure go for it
It’s also foil
oo pretty
I'm wondering if vivi has standard legs or something
From play pack at target lol
I've noticed a sudden upsurge in vivi demand
It’s a strong commander
Considering the last 2 weeks of complete underpricing and negative demand
i could see him fitting in cutter prowess decks
All the names of people I know in my local FB groups being massive traders started doing WTB posts
It's very strange considering literally impossible to sell vivi the past 2 weeks for near CK pricing
the fact that you can do stuff like monstrous rage -> offer you cant refuse to trigger a cutter monk and still have a bunch of mana left over from the treasures and the ability probably means he can do some dumb things
I’m hunting down a non foil fullart yshtola
Still $150
Prob couldve traded that vivi for one
Can't rmb how much foil vivi is for the borderless tho
I know yshtola was around $150 a week ago
Honestly, FF singles are in a very weird place rn
Prices are relatively low for the price of the set
But supply is also much lower than usual
I want to buy out all the ff14 solring and command tower
I just want to feel something
I'm just pretty much avoiding the product since I disagree with the price
💯
And that I think the set is just burning money
Everytime I look at Colector booster on the shelves
I do think the bubble on the collector boosters are fueled by 30k gold chocobos
yeah ive refused to pay anything above msrp but the lgs' around me are pretty good about staying there
And that you have a better chance buying literally lottery tickets
The one ring effect
The difference is that LOTR had way better bonus cards in retrospect
Here is mostly rhystic study
Even then the anime is better imo
The extra sheet reprints wise aren't close imo
There are also just more chase cards like the elvish font etc
Rhystic is basically what they put into a bonus sheet to make it look good now
It's never getting a reprint
The dragon one also good no ?
Just way too many short supply bonus sheets
I forgot the name it
The dragons suffer from supply issue more than power
The whole cycle of them are the only chase from the baldurs dnd set iirc
[[ancient gold dragon]]
Copper
Too many darn metals
[[axatra, grand]]
No card found for “axatra, grand”
[[atraxa, grand]]
Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Angel
Flying, vigilance, deathtouch, lifelink
When Atraxa enters, reveal the top ten cards of your library. For each card type, you may put a card of that type from among the revealed cards into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order. (Artifact, battle, creature, enchantment, instant, land, planeswalker, and sorcery are card types.)
7/7
The sub $100 does have some good pulls but it's heavily top weighted
This also get a reprint
I recall LOTR being better overall
There also just are too many flavorful prints
Happy that most of the FFXIV cards are on the cheap side tho
1 every 3 packs are kinda nice thou
Ff14 Cid is the most expensive Cid
It did make me realize that Louisoixs sacrifice shouldve been teferis protection
It is the promo cid iirc
Easiest to get
Think about tef pro
Then think about what Louisoix did
No it’s uncommon
Yeah lol
I prefer EA tho
All the cid is like 3-7 dollar
What EA ?
Oh lol
But I'm getting a foil version for my collection
The most Yapped expansion
this is a terrible card for the price. sakashima the impostro and spark double cost way less and also give you the option of copying enemy creatures. he's rly inflated because he's a partner commander
Poor kuja got shafted with that PS2 screenshot
more clones beyond vile and quantumn is feasible. i only run those two but it's not a bad option to go for one or two more
Heavensward can be Crux of face
It's the staples effect
All the well known staples get a tax
Look at the ole hoof
$40 until a standard reprint
Idk what card they would make for stormblood lol
Something from kamigawa imo
no lol
Or neon dynasty
I would always love a boseiju reprint
Even if it's not the most flavorful
are we all crushing our LGS's? Is this cat girl too stronk? 
im winning some 1v3s atm
That said, boseiju does sort of work flavorwise
Well I cast cleansing tonight and lost the game
[[cleansing]]
No the board wipe
what's the full name
[[cleansing nova]]
did u kill ur own yshtola
Sort of mirrors the entire civil war between the domans and garleand and the war of kami
2 of her actually
💀
how do you guys get basic lands btw i need like 20 of them
(new playeres only)
i dun wanna beg my LGS I feel bad

Hmm in retrospect, would boseiju be a good representation of stormblood
Just ask your LGS
most of them have a land tray that's full
They usually have too many anyways
They would love for you to buy Aetherift Bundle for $40
Lol yeah
2 collectors
No
those energy things give me the ick
The regular
i dont like the theme
The fractured foils have been growing steadily in price since nobody wants to open the set
Oh regular kinda sucks
The one with no collector
That said, I'm a proud owner of a piss foil aetherspark
i luv aetherspark
I opened jt
im thinking of running it in my eldrazi
but atm i just run him in urza chief constructs
It's one of my few proud pulls
We all have set that everyone hate but they love ?
I love Thunder Junction
The aetherdrift has a few good cards amidst the sea of meh
i love spongebob so i love that secret lair but everyone hates it lol
Still pissed at the pseudo amonkhet return not having deserts
I want the token from it
So I love the meme set
It's very tounge in cheek
Tho my entire secret lair experience has been it's not worth the time or money
for spongebob?
I was late and was happy to not spend the money
The only one that worth my time is Deadpool
Reprint value was really good tho
I bought it for a deadly rollic
The only secret lair I own is the Sheldon menery one
And I got it for close to MSRP aftermarket
I really really want a holiday gift bundle
But it seems impossible for MSRP rn
Sad because that FF16 art is one of my favorites
I was planning on getting that yshtola playmat but it's too expensive
But my LGS had this for half the price
cuteeee
They split up one of the eeveelution premium box sets
I was like that's really cute
Fk it I'll buy it over the yshtola one
what does the yshtola one look like
I bought the crux of fate playmat
It's the holofoil playmat so it's even more expensive
Plus Eevee is cuter
So I just bought what gave me more dopamine
Eh I’m a Pokémon professor so I have too many pokemon mats lol
Yea the ultrapro mats are just not worth the money for me
I don't ever get pokemon stuff usually so it's not too bad for me
Ok anyone please give me a good board wipe for this deck pronto
[[slaughter the strong]]
Realistically speaking, there are just a ton of good ones
And you can prob get them all for the price of a cyclonic rift 😂
With this I can keep 2 yshtola wait
It's also much cheaper than that 6c version
I'm also a fan of [[desynchronization]]
I think it's underplayed in yshtola
i run it in my urza deck and im disapponited by the number of times it doesnt do anything
all eenemy commanders are legendary to boot which already hurts a lot
or a delney + yshtola. it's just rly gud
the problem is they can also pick what htey keep
but it's 3 mana
so all in all still a top-tier choice
It's pretty pod dependent
I like it since my list runs more legendary creatures
The card is good but such a flavor fail for the deck
Slaughter the strong that is
Idk if toxic deluge is worth it in the deck
It hits yshtola just as hard
But I've heard blas edict is also good
When she's not board so...
i think the bosardwipes we're running with are already enough
we dont need more there's already like 6 good ones
Farewell, Promise of Loyalty, Single Combat, Slaughter the Strong, Starfall Invocation, Tragic Arrogance
cyclonic ig if you wanna use another gamechanger for it (i wouldnt)
So I'm of the mind that farewell isn't good
In that it just ends up prolonging games
it's needed at sometimes
It's definitely the best board wipe
idk just a few of teh games it was my only out
i had 2 of those. won one, lost the other. game was definitely prolonged though
Ik it's a hot take
one game i was vs someone who copied 12 of my solitary confinements, drew their whole deck almost, and copied their commander 72 times. nothing else wouldve saved me
other was someone who was playing to win through insanely largre amount of tokens and artifacts
yeah it's a fine take
i still the lost the first game
they played a card where they had the option to not draw if they wanted to. their commander forces everyone to draw. i got milled
That said, my main deck is a boardwipe less token deck
i also had solitary confinement and they couldnt get through it
oh lol
i run like no artifacts
Farewell does get better if you lean heavily into either artifacts or enchantments
Since you choose all but them
Maybe no graveyard if you run emets
you mean lean lightly?
Nope, actually heavily
dont you just exile all your own artifacts/enchantments
Like a ton of artifact mana and synergy
i though it's better if yo dont have much of either
You choose all but the one you have
It's also why I'm pro artifacts over enchantress since enchantress side doesn't have mana
[[time wipe]] [[single combat]] [[phyrexian scriptures]] [[supreme verdict]] + some source of indestructible on yshtola like [[flawless maneuver]]
Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I — Put a +1/+1 counter on up to one target creature. That creature becomes an artifact in addition to its other types.
II — Destroy all nonartifact creatures.
III — Exile all opponents' graveyards.
Flawless maneuver is one that's commonly seen
Mostly because it's another free spell
Dawns truce is 2 cmc but good too
[[grand crescendo]] is a personal favorite but not exactly fitting for most builds
Respectively to budget [[ clever concealment]]
Instant
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for
or one mana of that creature's color.)
Any number of target nonland permanents you control phase out. (Treat them and anything attached to them as though they don't exist until your next turn.)
sorry cut off the bototm part
im wondering if i should add papa if i already run citadel + top
Why not imo
It's a slow builder
are you running papa?
I cast my mana rock and it pings 1
I run it since I play a more FFXIV flavour focused deck
ah that's right
ill just add it to my deck and see how it performs
rather than judging from theoreticals
I however do not run citadel and top
do u believe other gamechangers are stornger or other reason
Strongest imo is fierce guardianship, smoth and force of will
I'm running rhystic over force because I own it and it yearns to be used
i think ur right actually lol
Citadel could be better than rhystic
im going to try bolas for ~5-6 times before i switch to FOW
Hard to decide
ive literally never played it a single time
You're too targeted to have the life to abuse it imo
im usually just too scared to commit 6 mana instead of holding the mana for interaction
Your interaction is the top deck
If you play top
thats if ur lucky
Tho you should still save mana for a counter at least
sensei hadnt come in mail yet
but i dont want bolas citadel if it's literally dead without top
oh lol
does tpro desserve to be a gahmechanger idk
i never play it now that it is one
but it might be too strong to not be one. 
It's the best protection spell
I was looking at old powercrept modern cards
Mostly after being reminded wrenn and six went from 80 to 16 and being the king of powercreep in MH1 to being powerrcrept out of modern
Man that is nice
Future sight borders 🤤
Idk why but I did end up getting a FS border top today
No [[Cyclonic Rift]] 😂
Tbf I just added it into my trade bundle since it's technically a staple I don't have
It's not worth the GC slot for B3
Staples 🤢
It also led to me finally owning a TOR
What all did you trade for?
Mostly traded it in since i wanted about 160+ worth of FF singles
My masterpiece lotus petal
He topped it up with cash
I think it's about 360 in singles and 240 in cash for the lotus petal
Whew
It's the EA surge foil TOR so that's a pretty penny
Oh right in B3 their is a Limit in how many GCs you Run. What are the most important I wonder?
Guardianship and Necropotence are kinda the obvious once 😅
I had the lotus petal in my collection for years and it was not doing much other than sentimental value
guardianship, tithe, FOW are my 3 picks
You don't need necropotence in yshtola imo, you have enough draw
Not enough money for FOW sadly 😅
Excessive Draw is fun 😅
Lmao drawing like 3-9 per trigger is gross ngl
Curiosity is fun. ^^
That said, I'm currently planning on using rhystic as my 3rd GC
Also man my table recently really underestimated my Talion 😂
I could swap it to citadel tho
[[sevinne reclamation]]
Sorcery
Return target permanent card with mana value 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield. If this spell was cast from a graveyard, you may copy this spell and may choose a new target for the copy.
Flashback 
(You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
Yeah 😂
I mean there aren't any good targets?
Yeah maybe use it for my Sythis Enchantment Deck instead
Yeah and she as Commander is also 4 Mana so you can't get her Back through it
Just hope nobody counterspells your reanimate
Curiosity, helm of ghastlord, ophidian eye, tandem lookout on board at the same time
It's weird to do conscious cuts to the deck
Like some cards are just too unfun to be played against
Nah
Sigil of sleep/ghastlord comes to mind
It guarentees you'll be hte target every game after
Tbf I play in a pod where aura shards and constant mists are seen even if they take a GC slot...
They deserve it then lol
I did run aura shards in my deck till the GC apocalypse hit my hazezon
1 to 6 in a single day
I just use the “I’m new to the game and YouTube told me to put it in”
It might be cool to take yshtola in a different direction with living weapon effects
Make it more of a token and artifact deck
I feel like if I do that
I use Graha Tia as commander
Yeah probably
I don't know if that's silly lol
My take on it is that while flavorful, there aren't enough good hero generators
Just sounds effective
There are 3/4 good infect cards iirc?
Well I don’t want to get uninvited to the table
Grafted, phyresis and something
Well you can include For Mirrodin stuff as well as stuff like [[bitterthorn]]
Legendary Artifact — Equipment
Living weapon (When this Equipment enters, create a 0/0 black Phyrexian Germ creature token, then attach this to it.)
Equipped creature gets +1/+1.
Whenever equipped creature attacks, you may search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Equip 
Honestly I don't think it's that mean
You're still forced to cast 5 spells while protecting yshtola
If you cast 5 spells then you'll likely win anyways
It just puts an even larger target on your back
I mean Frantic search , rewind, unwind, and 2 random spell
Someone in my pod has a sick Niko deck that can turn all the shards into infect
You need like 3+ free spells in your hand
Is it sick because it's infected?
Sick pun
Its not an infect deck tbf, it's a bounce deck with infect lines
You have mono U yshtola

Nvm
It can't deal dmg to you
I think it's less about fair more about oppressive
Yeah, Curiosity May make you the archenemy, but Phyresis will make you the enemy 😂
They don't get to play the game
Same with ghastlord
Honestly my pod plays bracket 3 decks that feel like 4
The only thing we discourage is tutoring for infinites
2 card infinites are fine if you don't tutor for them
Then a Dude slam down Bolas’s cidetal
Also people just consciously avoid playing them even when possible
Honestly, most GCs are pointless without context
It's mostly seen as stealing the win
Like, Narset is fine without wheels, tutors are fine without huge payoffs, etc
It’s broken thou
Yeah infinites is where I Draw the Line. I May play 5-6 GCs, but No infinites 😂
90% of people playing crop rotation do not use it at GC level
It's just a mana fixer
Bolas's citadel is a one card banger though
So I think you can look at it in a vacuum mostly
It does a ton in yshtola imo, mostly because it's mana cheating
And that's the most lacking part of her decks
Bolas can and a game on the spot with this deck ngl
Yeah, it's great in yshtola
It's also pretty cheap for a GC
Oh wtf, the FF version foil is $100
Nvm I'll stick to my promo version I got months ago
[[kefka’s tower]]
Yeah paid $11 for this lol
It's weird I was buying pieces for an Edgar Markov deck that went nowhere
Tho I think it ended up being just Vito and bolas citadel
I did pull a [[shantoto coercion]]
No card found for “shantoto coercion”
[[shantottos coercion]]
It'll prob make the cut in the deck
Is it optimal, not really
Is the art a banger, definitely
Who are you sac thou
I run quite a few legendary creatures
Itll be one of them
Or a token from Hermes/graha
Is there a card that gains life when your opponent lose life ?
Sorcery
This spell costs
less to cast for each 1 life your opponents have lost this turn.
Target opponent exiles the top three cards of their library. Until the end of your next turn, you may play those cards. If you cast a spell this way, mana of any type can be spent to cast it.
Sanguine Morass
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add
or
.
All who enter the bog despair, for the first thing it steals is hope.
[[bloodthirsty conqueror]]
[[sanguine bond]]
Wait so you tell me just with one extra card I can make my deck go infinite
[[bloodletter of aclazotz]]
[[enduring tenacity]]
Yep, bloodletter or conqueror
Though, if you play one piece of the two piece combo, I will target you like no other
^^
My table doesn't play the infinite usually even though it's in their deck
They don't actively tutor for it at least
Lifegain decks are a pain even without the combo
Honestly when you are in Mardu colors you Sometimes need to Play dirty to make Up for the Lack of Blue and Green 😅
Sometime table thinks I’m too mean for playing yshtola control
So I play grouphug
And they also not a big fan either
I can’t make everyone happy
Define grouphug
My bumbleflower deck is certainly not grouphug
I let them draw
Make everyone Deck Out with Bumbelflower xD
If you target someone to draw, it's not grouphug tbh
I tried that with [[forced fruition]] for a while
[[mindcrank]]
Yshtola mill ?
Not if
Their is an Infinite with mincrank
[[jidoor]]
Mindcrank + [[Bloodchief Ascension]]
Enchantment
At the beginning of each end step, if an opponent lost 2 or more life this turn, you may put a quest counter on this enchantment. (Damage causes loss of life.)
Whenever a card is put into an opponent's graveyard from anywhere, if this enchantment has three or more quest counters on it, you may have that player lose 2 life. If you do, you gain 2 life.
I have it and it can be brutal, especially, if opponents Play a lot of non permanentes
It does turn into "if you cast a instant/sorcery and I have a response it's 4 life" but it's such a crowded slot for me
Not even to mention death of cards/mills
Yeah it also comes online Within 1-2 Turns usually with relative ease.
I Play [[Luminarch Ascension]] in my Enchantment Deck and that is Harder to enable 😂 😂
So tbf, I did play against it 2 weeks ago
And it did do a ton of dmg
I had the opportunity to buy the 2XM BDL foil but it wasn't worth it
Had a Game this week Had Hullbreaker Horror, Y'shtola with Curiosity, Talion and Bloodchief it was brutal 😂 😂
It's almost 2x the price of the normal/etched
On a weird note of FF, people are now selling the art cards
I think I saw a signed yshtola go over 15?
POV you’re now disinvite from B3 table
So if [[exquisite blood]] [[vito]] [[y’shtola, night]]
Multiple cards match “vito”, can you be more specific?
On field at the same time and you trigger yshtola you win the game ?
[[vito, thorn]]
Yes
Though you could also trigger it with anything. That's a very generic combo noy a yshtola combo
how bad is [[helm of the host]]
it's too slow right? or not right
You spend 9 mana for it is kinda steep for this deck no ?
yeah
what im thinking of is all the random times ive played where someone equips their helm and gets like 5 clones
and no one cares about it
but i think with better players that doesnt happen. i dont think they'll allow yshtola to do it either. idk
I think the blue spell copy is better lol
What clones do we play again?
Irenicus, quantum, anymore?
Also prob not worth it but I love this card [[heliod warped]]
Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
When Heliod enters, return target enchantment card that isn't a God from your graveyard to your hand.

: Transform Heliod. Activate only as a sorcery. (
can be paid with either
or 2 life.)
"Compleat the faith, compleat the god." —Ajani Goldmane
4/4
Heliod, the Warped Eclipse
Legendary Enchantment Creature — Phyrexian God
You may cast spells as though they had flash.
Spells you cast cost
less to cast for each card your opponents have drawn this turn.
"Compleat the god, compleat the plane." —Ajani Goldmane
4/6
Creature though
Yea it's the one eh point for me
There's also auton soldier but he's more for ETB
Not sure if you get any timing to actually cast any instants before legend rule sacrifices the rest in this specific instance
[[ratadrabik of urborg]]
Interesting card
I have a copy in my spongebob deck
That has some 40 legendaries though
If the point is to use it as protection, then there are better ways eh?
Also [[painful quandary]]
Not particularly synergistic but painful
Would y'all play [[sephiroth, fabled soldier]]
Legendary Creature — Human Avatar Soldier
Whenever Sephiroth enters or attacks, you may sacrifice another creature. If you do, draw a card.
Whenever another creature dies, target opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life. If this is the fourth time this ability has resolved this turn, transform Sephiroth.
3/3
Sephiroth, One-Winged Angel
Legendary Creature — Angel Nightmare Avatar
Flying
Super Nova — As this creature transforms into Sephiroth, One-Winged Angel, you get an emblem with "Whenever a creature dies, target opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life."
Whenever Sephiroth attacks, you may sacrifice any number of other creatures. If you do, draw that many cards.
5/5
Maybe in a full token deck but even then I don't think so
I think it's more just good stuff incidental drain
Nah
Is it even worth the hassle of tracking
lol good point
It's also really slow
4 turns
Oh wait it's even worse
It only triggers on your turn
Yeah lol
I was going to suggest those, as well as curiosity for card draw
Curiosity I can get downw with, but infect you need to insta kill orbget an even bigger targee
^^
What protection spell are we running ?
Revenge of ravens seemed like a synergistic fit
You're gonna basically be forced to hold 2/3 free spells
It's a lot worse than the other tax effects tho
I would rather run [[norns annex]]
Ofc prop/ghostly are the first choices
Authority of the consuls also good for slowing the game down and helping you lifegain
[[smoke bomb]] ought to be funny
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one
Sink into stupor is a good choice
[[Kaya’s ghostform]] is one of my favorites. It even works against wipes.
[[waterlogged teaching]]
Instant
Search your library for an instant card or a card with flash, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
The long-dead librarians are still on hand to recommend selected titles.
Inundated Archive
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add
or
.
Moldering tomes line rotting shelves. Generations of priceless knowledge fade from memory beneath the waves.
I might be crazy, but I think [[tefiri, time raveler]] is a good choice
[[beseech the mirror]]
Sorcery
Bargain (You may sacrifice an artifact, enchantment, or token as you cast this spell.)
Search your library for a card, exile it face down, then shuffle. If this spell was bargained, you may cast the exiled card without paying its mana cost if that spell's mana value is 4 or less. Put the exiled card into your hand if it wasn't cast this way.
Might be useful, 2 procs for 4 mana
You want to bargain which is awkward
And it's sorcery speed which I don't love.
All Teferis seem good, yeah
[[ophidian eye]] might be preferable over curiosity for proc
What about [[protection racket]]?
it seems like a riskier way to get cards, but it might not be for this commander
I don't like it
Especially if we're running certain tutors for specific cards
And yeah, we run both ophidian and curiosity
[[temple is under attack]] is alright. Cool as a secret rendezvous effect too.
I like flexibility
Do you think Prop/ghostly over norn? Guess that's a meta call, as norn coold trigger yshtola draw
Best card from the deck arrived
If protection racket went on each enemy upkeep, I'd be more inclined
I play both
[[misleading signpost]] is decent for a mana rock, also gives a bit of humor
I like it a lot, yeah
I thought [[killing wave]] might be a good wipe for Y’shtola. Thoughts?
[[shorikai, genesis engine]] might be good for the token route tbh
Legendary Artifact — Vehicle
,
: Draw two cards, then discard a card. Create a 1/1 colorless Pilot creature token with "This token crews Vehicles as though its power were 2 greater."
Crew 8 (Tap any number of creatures you control with total power 8 or more: This Vehicle becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.)
Shorikai, Genesis Engine can be your commander.
8/8
[[storm herd]] would also be hilarious 🤣
10 mana is impossible though
Yeah, bitterblossom is always good. Spendy though.
What are y’all running for graveyard control?
my favorite with access to Black is definitely [[grave consequences]]
I've got Bojuka Bog and Scav Grounds in the lands, and rest in peace in my back pocket if I feel the need to add one
Those two lands in addition to [[szats will]]
Instant
Choose one. If you control a commander as you cast this spell, you may choose both instead.
• Each opponent sacrifices a creature they control with the greatest power.
• Exile all opponents' graveyards, then create X 0/1 black Thrull creature tokens, where X is the greatest power among creature cards exiled this way.
And I swear I put something else in too
is [[polluted bonds]] too toxic? 😅
No. It's very high mv and I wouldn't really consider running it tbh.
Depend on how much you hate Landfall friends
I'd rather run [[quandary]]
It does hurt landfall players, true. But very slowly.
[[waterlogged teaching]] I’m thinking this might be ok ?
Instant
Search your library for an instant card or a card with flash, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
The long-dead librarians are still on hand to recommend selected titles.
Inundated Archive
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add
or
.
Moldering tomes line rotting shelves. Generations of priceless knowledge fade from memory beneath the waves.
Or is it too expensive ?
I like [[lorien revealed]] too
Instant
Search your library for an instant card or a card with flash, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
The long-dead librarians are still on hand to recommend selected titles.
Inundated Archive
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add
or
.
Moldering tomes line rotting shelves. Generations of priceless knowledge fade from memory beneath the waves.
You either play the front side (The instant) or the back side (The land)
Make sense that what I figure
I like this serch for snuff out or deadly rollic
Free yshtola trigger
I like bouncelands if I run a lot of mdfcs because you can bounce them back to your hand and use the spell side.
I like bouncelands in general tbh
Mana positive with unwind and rewind
Instant
Destroy target creature or planeswalker.
"I can think of no fate more fitting for one so foul as you." —Aryel, knight of Windgrace
Fell Mire
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
: Add
.
"The Nethermire is all the salvation you deserve." —Aryel, knight of Windgrace
Play it as a land so you don't miss your land drop, then play [[azorius chancery]] to bounce it back to your hand and play the front side.
Ezpz
I actually love these
If I go in on all the 2 side land thingy
return a colorless util land, and boom
I would run bouce land
[[horizon of progress]] during someone elses turn
any thoughts on [[chainer's torment]]?
Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I, II — This Saga deals 2 damage to each opponent and you gain 2 life.
III — Create an X/X black Nightmare Horror creature token, where X is half your life total, rounded up. It deals X damage to you.
or [[talion, the kindly lord]]
Bouncelands also make cards like [[rewind]] mana positive.
lol, I keep coming back to this card, I just love it too much I guess [[brigid, hero of kinsbaile]]
yea, [[basilisk collar]]
too many pieces for the deathtouch in this deck imho, I just love it for keeping the board clean, since you can do it during anyone's combat
What do you think could use death touch in this deck?
Nothing really in my deck. Yshtola wants lifelink.
Yeah, agreed
if only [[kusarigama]] wasn't only combat damage... that'd be mean
Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature has "
: This creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn."
Whenever equipped creature deals damage to a blocking creature, this Equipment deals that much damage to each other creature defending player controls.
Equip
(
: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
it does make me want to make an [[odric, lunarch marshal]] deck though
Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
At the beginning of each combat, creatures you control gain first strike until end of turn if a creature you control has first strike. The same is true for flying, deathtouch, double strike, haste, hexproof, indestructible, lifelink, menace, reach, skulk, trample, and vigilance.
3/3
Just find a way to reanimate [[zetalpa]]
Stuff like [[urborg scavengers]] is really interesting too
Creature — Spirit
Whenever this creature enters or attacks, exile target card from a graveyard. Put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.
This creature has flying as long as a card exiled with it has flying. The same is true for first strike, double strike, deathtouch, haste, hexproof, indestructible, lifelink, menace, reach, trample, and vigilance.
2/2
Black though obviously
And you can exile a zetalpa with it obv
Orzhov keyword soup maybe? [[akroma, vision of ixidor]] and [[falthis shadowcat]]
Legendary Creature — Angel
Flying, first strike, vigilance, trample
At the beginning of each combat, until end of turn, each other creature you control gets +1/+1 if it has flying, +1/+1 if it has first strike, and so on for double strike, deathtouch, haste, hexproof, indestructible, lifelink, menace, protection, reach, trample, vigilance, and partner.
Partner
6/6
[[hashaton, scarab's fist]] is an excellent cmdr for it
Oh yeah, that could work
then you could have [[wonder]] and such easily in the gy

: Untap this artifact.




can be paid with either