#Ms. Bumbleflower: Communal Brewing
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formal ruin
isnt [[delney streetwise lookout]] really good here?
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formal ruin
might be slightly non-booy tho
solemn hamlet
This is neat
formal ruin
2/2 lifelinker that can also shift the counters you put on it š
I'm not sure if it makes the cut as a 2 drop, buuuut it might be better than a 3 drop because you can "throw it out" and itll probably get value
sand island
Delney seems bad, but the other guy is interesting, yeah
sand island
[[Kianne, corrupted memory]] This card seems pretty rad
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sand island
glossy fox
damn duskmourne is big on math
sand island
Math is scary
sand island
Same. I have to make 2 slots for that and the survivor now 
I should just ditch my alt wincons like you mentioned
Maybe all but the draw out ones
sand island
Getting more and more difficult to see packing a token theme in. Maybe I'll just make a [[Volo, Guide to Monsters]] deck
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short crow
I would like to play vs that with my precon
short crow
Bumbleflower
glossy fox
Bumbleflower
shes pretty overwhelming to go against, just a heads up
short crow
K
glossy fox
these guys decks have lot of work put into em
sand island
shes pretty overwhelming to go against, just a heads up
Hmmm what do you mean by this?
glossy fox
Hmmm what do you mean by this?
shes very strong
at least your itterations
the base precon i dont think is very fine tuned
sand island
Base precons usually aren't. Since they hamfist too many themes in
I think it's comparable to the other BLB precons though
I think the [[Bello, bard of the brambles]] deck is the most powerful ootb and when upgraded
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solemn hamlet
Made a couple changes to my list.
-Smuggler's Share -Valley Floodcaller
+Fathom Mage +Kami of Whispered Hopes
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/8612729/ms_b_stirs_the_pot
Smugglers Share seemed alright on paper but it's been so mid and I barely get the treasures off of my playgroup.
Valley floodcaller I just don't have enough noncreatures to abuse it. Making my 2 cmc ramp instant speed is pretty nice but with that new duskmourne card coming out I don't see a place for Valley floodcaller
sand island
Leylines of anticipation when
I haven't played fathom mage yet, but it seems good, yeah
solemn hamlet
I should probably make room for leyline yeah
solemn hamlet
Someone wanna help me with a cut for leyline actually?
pastel agate
I love the ones that get counters on draw
sand island
Fan of [[chasm skulker]] staying in then?
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sand island
Someone wanna help me with a cut for leyline actually?
On a hike, but I'll take a look when I get back.
solemn hamlet
Alright thanks
sand island
Oof, it's pretty tough replacing things
How much use have you gotten out of Into the Flood Maw?
solemn hamlet
How much use have you gotten out of Into the Flood Maw?
Haven't drawn it yet actually
sand island
I also ditched my mana dorks
solemn hamlet
How wise would it be to cut on interaction though 
Oh? How's that been working for you
sand island
It's like they never left
sand island
I think they are mostly useful with a commander you want to get out a turn early
Which I guess can be ms B sometimes, but that makes it more likely to be removed early
solemn hamlet
Mm. I do feel like my games go better when I cast her early typically
sand island
May want to keep them in then
Do you feel you need a lot of recursion?
I'd typically just run Skullwinder and ditch ewit
Oh nvm, thought that was the other ewit. I like evo wit for the theme.
solemn hamlet
Hmmm
I think Evo wit potentially grabbing skullwinder is a nice bonus. And Evo wit is cracked
solemn hamlet
Ahh
I mean... I guess all it leaves is dipping into one of my aikido cards š Which idk if I want to do
pastel agate
Fan of [[chasm skulker]] staying in then?
Not a fan, but flash enabler is a good tool
pastel agate
I won that āturnā
pastel agate
How have you been liking Mockingbird?
Yeah mockingbird is insane
pastel agate
Damn, your deck is really high budget eh
Eh, I tried making her as high power as I can
pastel agate
Cards are being DRAWN
I won next turn
sand island
Thoughts on [[morska]]? It's felt pretty alright so far.
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Legendary Creature ā Vedalken Fish Detective
You have no maximum hand size.
At the beginning of your upkeep, investigate. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with "
, Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.")
Whenever you draw your second card each turn, put two +1/+1 counters on Morska, Undersea Sleuth.
2/3
pastel agate
If you want the counters, youād run squid man or the new flash dude. If you wanted draw, well, youāre in blue
Doing both is not helpful if itās a clue
sand island
Yeah, the clue is pretty useless. I've mostly been running it for max hand size redundancy, and it gets pretty big from counters.
solemn hamlet
I want my beatsticks to be more like John
sand island
I wish everyone could be more like John
solemn hamlet
š So true
brazen phoenix
if I got the precon and 50ā¬ how would I spend it
untold oxide
[[nadu winged wisdom]]
[[dreamtide whale]]
[[mangara the diplomat]]
[[jace beleren]]
[[evolution witness]]
[[gluntch the bestower]]
[[kami of whispered hopes]]
[[smothering tithe]] or [[pollywog prodigy]]
[[freestrider lookout]]
ok bot doesnt like that, but basically those cards or all of them if you can fit them in
cant remember if mangara is already in the precon
disclaimer: nadu may or may not be too strong depending on your goals.
brazen phoenix
disclaimer: nadu may or may not be too strong depending on your goals.
well for now I don't have the money to upgrade it to a higher powerlevel
untold oxide
oh and [[shabraz]]
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Legendary Creature ā Shark Bird
Partner with Brallin, Skyshark Rider
Flying
Whenever you draw a card, put a +1/+1 counter on Shabraz, the Skyshark and you gain 1 life.
: Target Human gains flying until end of turn.
3/3
untold oxide
shabraz is huge
frequently gets to be above a 15/15 i nmy games
and that life gain is incredibly good if you arent in a combo meta
crystal quest
Iād also suggest, if some of the items above are pricey (smothering tithe etc), going for [[Psychic Possession]]
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untold oxide
[[$psychic possession]]
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untold oxide
5.11 isnt too bad. Might pick up a copy myself
boreal schooner
sand island
[[Heliod, the radiant dawn]] felt pretty good the other day
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Legendary Enchantment Creature ā God
When Heliod, the Radiant Dawn enters, return target enchantment card that isn't a God from your graveyard to your hand.
: Transform Heliod, the Radiant Dawn. Activate only as a sorcery. ( can be paid with either 
or 2 life.)
"Compleat the faith, compleat the god." āAjani Goldmane
4/4
Heliod, the Warped Eclipse
Legendary Enchantment Creature ā Phyrexian God
You may cast spells as though they had flash.
Spells you cast cost 
less to cast for each card your opponents have drawn this turn.
"Compleat the god, compleat the plane." āAjani Goldmane
4/6
pastel agate
[[Heliod, the radiant dawn]] felt pretty good the other day
Yep. Card allows your storm turns to pop off that much harder
sand island
Now I just need to stop running colorless mana š
pastel agate
Ezpz, land ramp
sand island
Huh, never thought of that
pastel agate
Freestrider is Nadu #2
untold oxide
On the trail is mental
untold oxide
Honestly freestrider and on the trail together when Ms B is double triggering per turn leads to more mana than I actually need.
I find I can frequently make all my creatures indestructible and hexproof then cast a board wipe, just because I have the mana up and it'll trigger Ms. B twice.
formal ruin
Smugglers Share seemed alright on paper but it's been so mid and I barely get th...
smugglers share is a little more of a "budget" enchantment so expected
formal ruin
Fan of [[chasm skulker]] staying in then?
I think this card is insane if left alone, because it basically gives you a boardstate if its a destroy wip
untold oxide
smugglers is pretty bad tbh, ive been considering cutting it for about a week or two.
Was thinking about being a villain and just playing rhystic instead
formal ruin
[[nadu winged wisdom]]
[[dreamtide whale]]
[[mangara the diplomat]]
[[jace bel...
yeah all these are real hits, probably apart from managara and jace beleren, I think you could do a bit better
im only running smugglers because I dont have a cut yet for it
untold oxide
yeah all these are real hits, probably apart from managara and jace beleren, I t...
its to help trigger the double draws more tbh
and they asked for pretty budget suggestions
formal ruin
[[jace beleren]]
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untold oxide
Like $50 doesnt go too far tbh.
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formal ruin
is better than that one
ngl I gotta make sure I have a riskars expertise in my deck
my plan is basically do the rampys by drawing from other peoples draws
then do [[innkeepers talent]] stuffs with planewalkers
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Enchantment ā Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
At the beginning of combat on your turn, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.
: Level 2
Permanents you control with counters on them have ward .
: Level 3
If you would put one or more counters on a permanent or player, put twice that many of each of those kinds of counters on that permanent or player instead.
formal ruin
[[nissa who shakes the world]]
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Legendary Planeswalker ā Nissa
Whenever you tap a Forest for mana, add an additional .
+1: Put three +1/+1 counters on up to one target noncreature land you control. Untap it. It becomes a 0/0 Elemental creature with vigilance and haste that's still a land.
ā8: You get an emblem with "Lands you control have indestructible." Search your library for any number of Forest cards, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Loyalty: 5
untold oxide
Yeah that tef is decent but the ultimate makes people pretty mad
formal ruin
im never gonna get there tho
and also if I do get there, thats a wincon, people cant complain
untold oxide
Coz I often use it to just reset someone and then leave them until they are a problem or the last one standing
Never gonna get there? I draw like 7-8 cards easily in a turn cycle usually. I can ult that tef every other turn
Then add in the proliferate stuff I play and yeah.
formal ruin
am I meant to be putting fetchlands into ms bumbleflowers
glossy fox
[[[Roaming throne]] naming bunny or citizen?
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Artifact Creature ā Golem
Ward
As Roaming Throne enters, choose a creature type.
Roaming Throne is the chosen type in addition to its other types.
If a triggered ability of another creature you control of the chosen type triggers, it triggers an additional time.
4/4
glossy fox
That's an additional bumble trigger
solemn hamlet
I think it's not needed
Roaming throne might be interesting anyways
You could also name Faerie or something. I've been thinking of running Faerie Artisans in my list and I also have Faerie Mastermind
Here's a thought someone has mentioned before though. Maybe running [[Delney]] and not buffing the bunny would get you more mileage than roaming throne?
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solemn hamlet
My deck runs a ton of triggered abilities.
I may try slotting in a package of Delney, Octomancer, Bramble Sovereign, Faerie Artisans, See Double, & Fractured Identity for some token shenanigans.
formal ruin
Here's a thought someone has mentioned before though. Maybe running [[Delney]] a...
yeah I mentioned it but I dont think its worth it
you want 4-6 creatures at any given point
and you want most of them buffed
so having something that limits buffs to get the bonus is bad really
solemn hamlet
Yeah for the beatdown plan for sure. But something cool you could also do is cast a bunch of instant spells with Delney and an unbuffed bunny while holding priority and I believe you double up on all of them and can suddenly make the bunny huge
I'll experiment with Delney and get back to yall it might be sweet
solemn hamlet
Notable things Delney currently doubles in my list:
Unbuffed Ms. B triggers
Selfless Squire's first instance of +1/+1 counters
The Second Doctor
Faerie Mastermind
Fathom Mage's first 2 draw triggers
Generous Patron
Ledger Shredder
Loran
Unbuffed John Benton (also makes him unblockable)
Kros Upkeep Trigger
Witch Enchanter
Kinda sold on it tbh even without any further adds lol
They would essentially let me buff up my opponents creatures for the aikido gameplan even harder. I think I'll also run Storm Seeker too š
daring ether
if I got the precon and 50ā¬ how would I spend it
Two copies of the precon. Then upgrade one with cards you have on hand.
pastel agate
lol
solemn hamlet
LGS didn't have Delney š¬
solemn hamlet
https://www.archidekt.com/decks/9155176/ms_b_stirs_the_pot_token_package_variant
The shenanigans probably take too much to get going but I'd love to make it work somehow
sand island
Yeah, the tokens probably aren't consistent enough for the effort they take. I'm just going to make a volo deck with that same package instead. Fractured Identity is just good enough to run without the package imo.
solemn hamlet
Yeah, kind of what I'm thinking. Though I think individual pieces of them on their own are actually quite good š¤
I'm really sacrificing a couple of fogs and Willbreaker
sand island
Those fogs seem real important since it's basically a turbofog deck lol
Until you're able to kill with the reflecting fog or big bumble
Oh, I added a few cards from your list since our last discussion. Looking forward to playing with them 
solemn hamlet
Sweet, which ones?
solemn hamlet
Those fogs seem real important since it's basically a turbofog deck lol
Meh... I usually only cast one or two. Never even casted Arachnogenesis yet. The goad stuff helps a lot
Like Selfless Squire alone has won me a game
sand island
Comeuppance, Selfish Squire, bloodthirsty blade, redemption arc
And I don't recall if you use these, but we were chatting about oversimplify, rewind, unwind
Oh I see you use unwind
One thing I've been thinking about is running an infect package and [[radstorm]]
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sand island
Probably would attract too much hate though
solemn hamlet
Still might slip Oversimplify in at some point
sand island
It seems so good when I have maze of ith and Socrates
Socrates one of my favorite cards tbh
sand island
Just saw [[Stormseeker]] in your deck
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sand island
Sigh, looks like I have to get another card
solemn hamlet
I sure love green Sudden Impact
sly iris
So yeah my best friend has a Ms. Bumbleflower deck and it's extremely formidable X3
Ah dangit he hasn't updated it yet.
But yeah it's strong and the Commander is a really champion in her own right.
untold oxide
Believe me when we say this one, we know.
My deck is surprisingly strong and I donāt even have all the really good cards in it. I went a similar theme to Umaru with planeswalkers (as I donāt have anywhere else to play them) and PWs in edh are shocking. If I wanted to optimise those would be the first to go. But with that said, using PW as my theme and my deck still feels strong should tell you everything you need to know.
formal ruin
im going to be updating mine soon, but need to work out how im cutting by looking at other planeswalker decks
sand island
What are your planeswalker versions?
solemn hamlet
I feel like you need some more interaction in that
twin jungle
bunny can't go draw stuff if bunny is dead to someone else's board state though lol
twin jungle
It's ultimately up to you and if your playgroup is generally this low on interaction it's most likely fine, but if you wanted to cut some cards you have a couple cards that don't synergize with your planesewalkers/counters theme you have going on
twin jungle
yeah she doesn't make too much sense here but I also understand the urge to just jam every Planeswalker you have
formal ruin
Iām guessing itās alandra, johreal, smugglers share, illusionist gambit,
I knew I needed more interaction and she does destroy artifact or enchant and also acts as a damage effect for lategame so thought sheād be ok
twin jungle
alandra and jolrael are definitely two that pop out right away
I cut jolrael out of my deck but I leaned heavier into a grouphug theme
formal ruin
I was considering minn as an option to replace johreal but not sure
twin jungle
illusionists Gambit I think actually is good here because often I see counters decks just need one more turn and it buys you exactly that much time
solemn hamlet
š
formal ruin
Iām adding in the teferis I wanna add
twin jungle
I have him in my list of considering cards, but I tried to keep the upgrades to mostly cards I had already
my magic collection grows exponentially
formal ruin
Thereās also the issue of ramp
I donāt think I got enough
And thought vessel could be a ramp spell instead for safer ramp package
solemn hamlet
I think you have enough
formal ruin
If my goal is innkeepers talent into planeswalker ultimates, is that something I should be running idyllic tutor for? Or maybe an academy rector?
solemn hamlet
You could
If you want to up the consistency add some more draw and a couple tutors
formal ruin
My other issue is if tutoring for a 2 cmc enchantment might not be worth
But I have to consider that that enchantment gives ward 1 to everything with counters for 3 cmc
solemn hamlet
I mean surely you have other hits for them right
You don't necessarily need to tutor for it if you dont need it
formal ruin
sand island
+1 more John
I'd ditch your 3 mana ramp for 2 mana ramp yoo
If the plan is to ramp on turn 2, then play bumble on 3
Mana dorks also don't really make sense there either
sturdy tiger
Surprising lack of Sergeant John Benton guys. Come on!
I saw his EA Surge Foil in a card-store and read his effect and thought how hilarious he would be in the deck, so I picked him up, and I'm never not happy to play him. Always looking at my opponents and asking them "You wanna draw some cards?"
untold oxide
Surprising lack of Sergeant John Benton guys. Come on!
I dont own one, so I dont play one.
gives me serious Xyris vibes though
cursive egret
Anyone tried out [[Teferi Who Slows]]?
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untold oxide
seems like a 4 mana do not a whole lot. You got many activated abilities you like to use to make the emblem worth it?
coz otherwise there are better walkers to be using for sure
formal ruin
I think the tamiyo for 4 mana is better
would really depend on what kind of artifacts/lands you are running
I can see why it could be a good
cursive egret
Fair, it's only the big mana guys on activated ability duty. And I'm already playing Seedborn Muse as a better impression of the ult. Well, not better necessarily, but less work
formal ruin
cant look at a card and say you get to ult it sadly š
so ama gonna review my card list and see how many catagories it fits in out of:
+1 counters
draw
value
ramp
as well as looking at the CMC value of each, aiming for around 3-5 cmc most
untold oxide
If you are playing PWs you should be proliferating and ulting at least one PW in the games duration
Otherwise just play something that gives you that effect (seedborn) without hoops to jump through
formal ruin
still think I should put this in
untold oxide
You planning to do anything with the illusions? Coz this is just a token generator and thats it.
Like you playing a phyrexian altar or anything? Coz they are only X/1 tokens meaning they get blocked by any random junk.
formal ruin
its more of the effect of putting stuff into play
it gets around counterspells that way too
untold oxide
so you're paying 3 mana in the hopes that someone just lets you amass an army and put stuff into play?
untold oxide
Like I play minn a lot, unless you are actively using the tokens to do something else. its a bit of a do nothing card
if you have some way of utilising them and it synergises, go for it, but dont just blindly hope it'll work out
id argue [[jolrael mwonvuli recluse]] is better
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Legendary Creature ā Human Druid
Whenever you draw your second card each turn, create a 2/2 green Cat creature token.
: Until end of turn, creatures you control have base power and toughness X/X, where X is the number of cards in your hand.
"Humans bring nothing but suffering and deceit. They are not welcome in my forest."
1/2
untold oxide
less mana, guaranteed 2/2s and later on you get a semi overrun effect
untold oxide
Nope they are illusions
"Whenever you draw your second card each turn, create a 1/1 blue Illusion creature token with "This creature gets +1/+0 for each other Illusion you control." "
untold oxide
oh right
formal ruin
how do you feel like harrow and harrow clones in the deck
are they good to get lands out of the deck?
untold oxide
I am biased, I love harrow effects
formal ruin
since if we are already on evolution witness to recurr things, it can be ramp
its also instant speed
like I could take out cultivate and kodamas and insta swap it for both harrows
untold oxide
[[entish restoration]] isnt bad either
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untold oxide
we can get to 4 power pretty quick
untold oxide
Oh i thought you meant [[roiling regrowth]]
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untold oxide
or [[springbloom druid]]
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untold oxide
not with [[evolution witness]]
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Creature ā Elf Shaman Mutant
: Adapt 2. (If this creature has no +1/+1 counters on it, put two +1/+1 counters on it.)
Whenever one or more +1/+1 counters are put on Evolution Witness, return target permanent card from your graveyard to your hand.
She remembers every breakthrough, from the gene's mutation to the new life's propagation.
2/1
formal ruin
all of these are on theme with scaling with counters, would be a big sad to lose one
[[narsets reversal?]]
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untold oxide
I love narsets as a big gotcha card
formal ruin
does it copy overloaded rft?
untold oxide
someone casts [[time stretch]] yeah try again man
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untold oxide
yup
formal ruin
oki me add
untold oxide
itcopies the spell on the stack
untold oxide
I personally like it because its like: "no you cant have that spell, but you can potentially have 2 others and I get to replace my card I used"
it plays into the politics of commander well imo
but it would be way better as a counterspell/mana drain
solemn hamlet
so you're paying 3 mana in the hopes that someone just lets you amass an army an...
There is something to be said about token gen to use as fodder if you're going against go wide. Go wide would be tough for my deck to deal with for example, and I definitely see merit to running Jolarel or minn
solemn hamlet
is arcane denial still good here
Super good if you're running the parasitic draw engines (which u should be imo)
They either elect to not even draw or you go up cards off it lol
untold oxide
There is something to be said about token gen to use as fodder if you're going a...
I think jolrael is better, the built in overrun with it also being 2MV vs 3MV
you can also use it defensively to block peoples stuff and they'll be shocked that its not a sorcery speed only thing
solemn hamlet
Not sure. I'm not gonna rely on my opponents being dumb, they're both generally removal targets but one illusion dying at least ramps you if you have a land in hand right
formal ruin
Not sure. I'm not gonna rely on my opponents being dumb, they're both generally ...
Yeah
solemn hamlet
Though my list has operated just fine without them I'll note. I still considered them
sand island
At least for me, jol rael has never survived to use the overrun and has never felt particularly good to play
untold oxide
Thatās great it was removal bait.
sand island
Perhaps, she's also only good after you've gotten your engine online
untold oxide
So like half of the cards were playing then?
Thing is though the engine is so easy to get online
Itās just ms b and a payoff card with a way to cantrip a little
solemn hamlet
I guess then why not play Minn if you're gonna play one of the two? If they're both removal bait and you're almost never going to be able to activate the overrun, Minn's bodies let you rebuild and make really favorable blocks/attacks as well. Plus board wipe security if it's not an exile wipe
formal ruin
Thatās great it was removal bait.
yeah I think for this exact reason, alandra is bad
if your removal bait costs 4 mana, thats significant, when it could be 2 or 3 mana instead for the same "threat" to other players
formal ruin
alandra has always felt bad to draw because it puts a target on my back I think
when ive played it
people scared
sand island
[[alandra]]
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sand island
Thinking I'd rather rogues passage a single creature than try to overrun
Can't wait for [[kianne, corrupted memory]]
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formal ruin
I dont think its worthwhile, but if you have untap effects, it probably is
pastel agate
Yeah if you can save your spells for other players turns so you can proc her second trigger per turn, youāll be extremely far ahead by the end of that
Iāve casted a [[flawless maneuver]] for no reason other than to trigger Bumbleflower a second time many a time
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solemn hamlet
I think Kianne is FANTASTIC personally
pastel agate
Definitely better than draw squid
And yes, I call it draw squid because I can never remember itās damn name for some reason
sand island
It's Chasm Skulker!
sand island
lmfao that is so good
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solemn hamlet
I wouldn't really run lotus petal unless you are :b
solemn hamlet
Yea if you're using it for that I'd just run a cantrip or Shrieking Drake/Whitemane Lion I think
sand island
Thoughts on running [[chromatic lantern]] or the like?
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Artifact
Lands you control have "
: Add one mana of any color."
: Add one mana of any color.
Dimir mages put the lanterns to good use, creating shapeshifters and sleeper agents from mana foreign to them.
solemn hamlet
I haven't yet
formal ruin
oki doki
I have gone through the decklist and tagged everything
I have:
25 +1 counters cards
11 planeswalker suite
19 ramp
16 interaction
17 draw faciliation
12 protection
with a total of 36 lands but no MDFCs (yet)
one thing im wondering about is what kind of lands are the best ones to actually use
solemn hamlet
Like in general or the utility lands?
solemn hamlet
I certainly don't go under 36 in any of my decks. I have 37 in my Ms. B list including MDFCs and I like running the MH3 MDFCs a ton
sand island
MDFCs are great, yeah
I also really like bouncelands, especially with snap, unwind, rewind, etc.
[[maze of ith]] has become my favorite land too
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Land
: Untap target attacking creature. Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt to and dealt by that creature this turn.
formal ruin
this seems omega cringe
but
:))))
I think there is only about 10 decks on EDHrec that are similar to my deck š
also potential techg
[[unnatural restro]]
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formal ruin
[[unnatural rest]]
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formal ruin
WELP
my sideboard has 37 cards I'm thinking could fit into the deck
fuck my life
solemn hamlet
Light work I have two dragonshield boxes full of options š
I just accept I'll always have too many ideas and slot cards in from time to time
sand island
Just need to separate them into packages and replace packages when you get bored of one
solemn hamlet
True
sand island
https://scryfall.com/card/one/191/unnatural-restoration
That's pretty interesting. Going an infect route might be cool.
I'd add in [[Radstorm]]
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formal ruin
As a regrowth effect that also proliferates I think is useful
formal ruin
This might be very very good in planeswalers
sand island
Oh yeah forgot you can proliferate planeswalkers
Not that literally anyone cares, but you could proliferate someone's Battle too kek
formal ruin
Reason I think this is good is because ms b makes your attacking creature evasive and this buffs everything even more
Maybe as an alternative to something pricey like vornivex
formal ruin
This walker allows you to recast cantrips
daring ether
The perch protection gift a turn has been surprisingly good
sand island
Yeah, I really like it too
untold oxide
Yeah Iāve only just caught up on this
I really want a Spanish ms bumbleflower now
Thatās hilarious
sand island
Saaaaame
formal ruin
@pastel agate how does your deck come to do the actual win?
I think ill use mutational advantage s a budget heroic intervention for now
formal ruin
considering some proliferate support in the spell section
formal ruin
in answer the chromatic lanturn question, i think youd run [[wrenn realmbreaker]] before that
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Legendary Planeswalker ā Wrenn
Lands you control have ": Add one mana of any color."
+1: Up to one target land you control becomes a 3/3 Elemental creature with vigilance, hexproof, and haste until your next turn. It's still a land.
ā2: Mill three cards. You may put a permanent card from among the milled cards into your hand.
ā7: You get an emblem with "You may play lands and cast permanent spells from your graveyard."
Loyalty: 4
formal ruin
my current deck doesnt have room for lotus petal, so taking it out the draft
replacing it with entish restoration
i run enough fetch effects to make use out of evoution witness, and entish is instant so good for other peoples turns
im at the stage of "do I cut a land from 36" or "do I cut a creature for a spell"
how good is austere command compared to damning verdict?
I guess theres the angle of austere commander + heroic intervention-like, is 8 mana wipe the board
formal ruin
getting a sea gate restoration, so swapping our wizard class and an island for damning verdict
thats 9 cuts/swaps
v3 of the deck after multiple run throughs of upgrades im willing to put in
formal ruin
current potential further change is swapping [[chasm shulker]] for [[generous patron]] because the floor is so much better with patron and has bonuses with ms b + proliferate strategy
sand island
Generous patron is interesting with kros too
formal ruin
ive been on patron for years but only got one copy and its in obuun right now, but im dismantleing it now
I think im swapping it
patron is also a 1/4 opposed to 1/1 so I think that is also massive
solemn hamlet
Chasm and generous Patron do serve totally different purposes
formal ruin
im more about setting up and then randomly doing the thing at some point
so I think patron is far less threatening for that purpose
are you on both?
solemn hamlet
No, just Patron. However my list isn't entirely conventional as I'm trying to completely minimize how threatening I am on board for most of the game.
I don't have much counter synergies and my Bumbleflower counters often go on opponents creatures
My list aims to win the game through things like [[Reins of power]] and [[willbreaker]]
pastel agate
<@180801337947193345> how does your deck come to do the actual win?
Storm into a voltron finish, grinding with Nadu and eventually taking a few extra turns and killing that way
formal ruin
Storm into a voltron finish, grinding with Nadu and eventually taking a few extr...
has you looked at my updated decky yet
pastel agate
has you looked at my updated decky yet
I have not, but remind me in a couple hours and Iāll be more than happy to taoe a look
daring ether
You think throwing consecrated sphinx into a modified precon is still about precon level?
pastel agate
You think throwing consecrated sphinx into a modified precon is still about prec...
If you draw it itās a pretty big power spike
daring ether
ooh [[glen elendra archmage]] seems absurd in bumbleflower.
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Creature ā Faerie Wizard
Flying
, Sacrifice Glen Elendra Archmage: Counter target noncreature spell.
Persist (When this creature dies, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)
2/2
sand island
Yeah I added it, but haven't seen it yet
solemn hamlet
https://scryfall.com/card/uma/58/glen-elendra-archmage
Straight fucking devious yes
formal ruin
not sure if its a consideration, but this is something I have played before to good effect
this guy is great, or he used to be
probably in a similar boat to skyshroud claim, 4 mana fetch two
untold oxide
Thing is though, do we need ramp from turn 4 onwards?
Like I have no doubt that thing goes crazy with Ms. B and a Kami of whispered hopes
but how do we kill it ourselves to cash in on the ramp and do we need that?
sand island
And how many basics are you running where you'll get full value out of it
untold oxide
Iām running like 13 basics I think
So I could definitely get the value out of it. But I donāt feel that I need to play it.
sand island
Ah, that is a lot of basics
sand island
Ah, that's fair
glossy fox
narset parter of veils just seems mean here
sand island
[[narset, parter of veils]]
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sand island
Oh, meh. You kinda want your opponents to draw cards though
formal ruin
it would be good in a group hug shell
I think for other builds it puts a target on your back more than you want
untold oxide
Most of my list is based on making people draw and then I draw for theirs
sand island
You would want to benefit off of your group hug cards with these kinds of effects
untold oxide
So narset would negatively impact me.
sand island
^^ parasitic card draw is the name of the game
untold oxide
you want narset when youre being super fun and are playing [[wheel of fortune]] and co.
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solemn hamlet
Me myself and I. I'm the whole family. š¤£
untold oxide
[[me the immortal]]
An interesting choice for wheels but i wont knock it.
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sand island
Power creeping squee the immortal smh
sand island
I really want Sra. Margarita š
formal ruin
just played my new deck online
I had generous patron and the whale
played shabaz, shabaz almost saved me
but I drew like 12 cards
and died
sand island
[[shabaz]]
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glossy fox
[[shabaz]]
[[Shabraz the skyshark]] probably
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Legendary Creature ā Shark Bird
Partner with Brallin, Skyshark Rider
Flying
Whenever you draw a card, put a +1/+1 counter on Shabraz, the Skyshark and you gain 1 life.
: Target Human gains flying until end of turn.
3/3
formal ruin
I think im sold on him now
anyone found lifetotals to be a problem, and if so, what other ways to get it back again have you looked at?
sand island
I haven't really found life to be a problem. (Other than dying I guess). He seems a little spendy for the counters though.
untold oxide
Shabraz is crazy good
It becomes absolutely massive
Either they have to remove it or they just die
formal ruin
sadly this game we had three decks based on combat
so no counterspells would work
I think riskhars expertise has a good home here
it makes any 5 drop a +4-8 draw spell
sand island
Yeah, at leasst it has flying.
So some sort of built in evasion
Not having trample really sucks if you don't find rogue's passage though
cursive egret
but I drew like 12 cards
"but I drew loads of cards and died" could be the tagline for Ms B. No shade, I absolutely love it XD
solemn hamlet
so real
sand island
When you only get through half your deck 
echo kiln
"but I drew loads of cards and died" could be the tagline for Ms B. No shade, I ...
Is this the mythical "doing the thing" people talk about?
worthy stone
Iāve been brewing a 7ish list thatās more of a midrange deck that keeps the group hug theme. It has a solid game plan (1/1 counters with doublers for finishers) while still keeping the essence of a group hug deck, you just benefit more than the other people in the pod. I only tested one game with pretty good results lemmie know what you think.
A weakness that keeps it from being stronger is the reliance on bumble for generating counters, theirs a few ways besides it but if they remove bumble then your plan kinda crumbles. Luckily you have a ton of access to a lot of mana while also keeping the theme of 1/1 counters
sand island
My deck is also a 7 š
worthy stone
What kinda brew did you cook up?
solemn hamlet
Oh I like that list
worthy stone
Thank you! Something I noticed in a lot of bumble decks is the inability to actually finish out/win games
I tried to solve this by including a handful of token doublers that can make a few bumble triggers into a critical mass midgame and actually kill people but without a degenerate way
Theirs a few infinites mostly caused by shrieking drake
You can cut the card but if I do notice I have an infinite I just wonāt play it out because I think that goes against the spirit of the deck
sand island
Court of Garenbrig seems good
worthy stone
Yeah, itās super good plus I love the monarch bc it encourages interactive games
And concord turns on all your mana dorks when you play it
While also being in the theme of group hug
worthy stone
Glunch is one of the only other reoccurring source of 1/1 counters and has been performing super good! People also tend to not remove him because of the group hug aspect
This deck really exploits using the group hug aspect as a way to politick to get an advantage that accumulates by turn 5-6 into oneshotting someone
Which is always hilarious
worthy stone
In theory she seems super good but it was a more recent add I havenāt tested, huge mana, draw, everything bumble kinda wants
formal ruin
I dunno if I need more ramp in mine
but also the game I tested, I did ramp because of evolution witness.. so im not sure
I notice your list does not have evolution witness despite having fetchlands
worthy stone
I dunno if I need more ramp in mine
I had just added them to the deck to help fix the mana a bit, and was considering it
But Iām not sure if this would swing the deck into a higher power level if I included grave recursion at that level
Something I was considering because I donāt want it to be higher than a 7
I prefer more casual games because theyāre more interesting
solemn hamlet
Evo witness won't push ur deck much higher. Its just nice to have
worthy stone
Yeah I just added it, cut shrieking drake
I was really thinking about cutting it for a while bc of its smothering tithe interaction
formal ruin
worthy stone
If you guys have suggestions for mana sinks Iāve been thinking about adding one or two
Since the deck late game generates so much mana
Iāve been considering akromas memorial
formal ruin
sea gate restrotation
sand island
Doppelgang
formal ruin
I also run rishkars expertise because it fits my gameplan
doppelgang is probably very good, but its so much mana and I just dont think my tables would let me get that much mana on board without killing me
I think I'd run spark double over it in my list, due to being able to copy legends and walkers
worthy stone
I think avenger of zendikar fits my deck the most
sand island
Doppelgang just sounds like fun
pastel agate
In theory she seems super good but it was a more recent add I havenāt tested, hu...
I find that non targeted group hug is usually a downside in the deck. Group hug you can 100% control is an extremely powerful tool.
Welcome to the cabal of bnuuy enjoyers!
pastel agate
If you guys have suggestions for mana sinks Iāve been thinking about adding one ...
[[faerie mastermind]]
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Creature ā Faerie Rogue
Flash
Flying
Whenever an opponent draws their second card each turn, you draw a card.
: Each player draws a card.
Yuta Takahashi, World Champion XXVII
2/1
formal ruin
yeah I was also gonig to suggst that
pastel agate
Also based Cavetown enjoyer
worthy stone
Iām running it already
I donāt like massive draw bc we have massive draw built in
A mana sink for my deck needs to end the game
Which avenger accomplishes
pastel agate
True
formal ruin
if you draw lots and ramp a lot
if you boardwipe and protect yourself and protect the spells, you win, or should win
pastel agate
Itās also very efficient to make yourself scary, someone board wipes and you protect from it
It rockets you ahead
pastel agate
Iāve been finding jace/labman more and more necessary for the deck, just because of how quickly you fly through the deck
formal ruin
if I ever pop off with planeswalkers I think I should win
the theory is there
the emblems from each of them are crazy enough
pastel agate
Iāve been brewing a 7ish list thatās more of a midrange deck that keeps the grou...
Is this based off the precon or from scratch?
sand island
Iāve been finding jace/labman more and more necessary for the deck, just because...
Boy, drawing out your deck feels so good. My friend started running orcish bowmasters and notion thief though. 
pastel agate
And if you want to do specifically counters, thereās a TON of good options
[[luminarch aspirant]] effects are peak
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worthy stone
Is this based off the precon or from scratch?
From scratch
pastel agate
Gotcha. Have you considered [[communal brewing]]?
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worthy stone
And if you want to do specifically counters, thereās a TON of good options
Oh Iām aware, I left the counter generation sparse as a way to balance the deck and force you to rely on bumble; which puts a target on the back of bumble rather than being a pure 1/1 deck
Thatās why the density of cheap cards in my list
Youāre gameplan is to double the bumble counters rather than rely on other sources or countrrs
formal ruin
Immediate 4 +1/+1 counters
3* if you are in a 4 player game
pastel agate
3* if you are in a 4 player game
It enters with one already
worthy stone
More the voltron-y route then
Yeah kinda, the gameplan is to make a few giant creatures
And most of the small creatures benefit from having counters on them
pastel agate
Thatās mostly what my list does. Storms off and makes bunny huge
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/B8zzpDQtNkGBPXpSWrXH8w
Iām trying to skyrocket the power on this one so itās pricy
But eventually I do want to go more into the 1/1 counters route with a new brew
worthy stone
I just added a finale + avenger package in my list as a lategame finisher
sand island
worthy stone
Just looking for a cut
worthy stone
I just added it, and yeah itās mostly for the mana
So I havenāt tested it in a live game
pastel agate
Vorel seems pretty slow, howās it done for you?
worthy stone
Vorel seems pretty slow, howās it done for you?
Heās amazing, you can combo kill people out of nowhere with the concord
pastel agate
True
sand island
My list: very much still a WIP, based on the precon. https://archidekt.com/decks/8498400/bumbleflower
worthy stone
True
You mainly only drop him if you have protection or concord bc heās taking someone out if he taps
pastel agate
You only draw from your opponents on their turn
worthy stone
I donāt think wedding ring is very good
Itās not
Itās really fun tho
I love marrying ppl
pastel agate
It would be a prime candidate for cuts, but the meme factor is a thing
sand island
Oh it's during their turn. Oops
worthy stone
Yes
pastel agate
Yup, thatās why itās not great
worthy stone
Itās a 100% mainstay
sand island
It's okay. It's good with my forced fruition.
worthy stone
Bc of the memes
sand island
I'm playing a mill plan
pastel agate
As funny as it is Iām not certainLong Riverās Pull is any good
worthy stone
As funny as it is Iām not certainLong Riverās Pull is any good
If you notice a theme
A lot of my deck runs suboptimal cards on purpose
Just for the funny
Yes I could add a mana drain
But I want long rivers pull
pastel agate
Could just do a regular olā counterspell
sand island
It can trigger second card draw a turn effects like trouble in pairs or smuggler's though
worthy stone
I could cut wedding ring but I want to ask people to marry me š„ŗ
sand island
I played Ondu Inversion, and my ex husband started murdering me because of it though
worthy stone
Oh fuck I forgot to add trouble in pairs
pastel agate
How relevant is concordant crossroads?
worthy stone
Very with my build
pastel agate
Like haste could be good but I donāt think itās that relevant
sand island
White card draw is seriously insane
pastel agate
Man, this is the problem with bumbleflower
worthy stone
Like haste could be good but I donāt think itās *that* relevant
Itās a group hug thing + it makes my dorks curve even faster
pastel agate
Too many cards work really well with her
sand island
pastel agate
There is a lot of overlap with some of the best cards in her decks
worthy stone
My plan is to double counters from bumble and make a few creatures big
pastel agate
Surprised at no [[forgotten ancient]] then
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worthy stone
Like I said I purposefully limited the amount of token generation
To balance the deck and keep the theme
My deck isnāt about giving a ton of creatures 1/1 counters from different sources, itās about using bumble to give 1/1 counters and doubling them
formal ruin
https://scryfall.com/card/moc/297/forgotten-ancient
I think this puts too much of a target on your back
add in a +1 counters subtheme and you are going to die 100%
that mana could be spent double spelling or on a protection spell that they wont see
I think its a great card, but for Ms B, I think you gotta lie a little low
sand island
Last game I played, I had a 21/21 chasm skulker, and no evasion for it. It was real sads
So I don't like I like those type of passive +1s without trample
pastel agate
Thatās why [[shabraz]] the goat
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Legendary Creature ā Shark Bird
Partner with Brallin, Skyshark Rider
Flying
Whenever you draw a card, put a +1/+1 counter on Shabraz, the Skyshark and you gain 1 life.
: Target Human gains flying until end of turn.
3/3
worthy stone
I think you really want a low curve with bumble
I think anything higher than 3 is really hard to spend
Thatās been my experience
sand island
Agreed
worthy stone
I only have 12 cards with a cmc higher than 4
solemn hamlet
doppelgang is probably very good, but its so much mana and I just dont think my ...
That's where I'm at, tough to tap out for something like that lol
sand island
Preferably you want to be playing many things on your opponents' turns. So hyped for that new flash enabler.
Heliod has felt so good to me already
pastel agate
High curve just needs more ramp to supplement.
My curve is higher in my deck but Iām consistently double spelling because you get to ~ten mana ASAP
worthy stone
Cut some cards, tamiyo and selfless squire was dead more often than it was alive
We REALLY donāt like 4 mana cmc unless we can and want to drop it after bumble
And tami tapping effect felt mediocre a lot of the time where Iād rather just a cheaper removal spell
Selfless squire maybe saved me once out of 5 games and felt super low impact
Hard bristle bandit is super good
Incubation Druid super good
Fanatic of Rhonas seems good in theory but often was too slow, and 4 green mana felt hard to spend a lot of the time
Still on the fence about out selv but sheās more of a group hug aspect anyway
Avenger of zendikar is so satisfying
formal ruin
ngl im considering cutting selvela
worthy stone
Also walking ballista has felt sooooo good
Yeah sheās a fine cut
I wanted to in general keep the theme of group hug
So I like effects that benefit everyone
formal ruin
I think cutting it for harrow would be a thing
sand island
Do you want to be pinging though?
worthy stone
I think cutting it for harrow would be a thing
If you want ramp deep gnome is good
worthy stone
Do you want to be pinging though?
It can be super beneficial playing vs burn
Or any aggressive strategy
To keep them in check
It being an instant ping can help vs black creatures to kill them before sac effects
- since Iām running doublers I can boardwipe
sand island
Fair. It kills Norin too.
worthy stone
And planeswalkers lol
sand island
It's only creature or player though eh?
sand island
Yeah, how many planeswalkers do you need to worry about?
Only time I've seen a planeswalker ultimate is with doubling season. (Though I've had my Koth ultimate before.)
I'm also very new though
solemn hamlet
Selfless squire maybe saved me once out of 5 games and felt super low impact
Much better more towards a lower end casual meta do that's understandable
solemn hamlet
I run a little goad package to provoke people and I focus on putting counters on other people's creatures like a Kros deck
cursive egret
*"creature or player" is updated to "any target" in (almost?) all cases, Ballista can hit PWs
sand island
[[walking ballista]]
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Artifact Creature ā Construct
Walking Ballista enters with X +1/+1 counters on it.
: Put a +1/+1 counter on Walking Ballista.
Remove a +1/+1 counter from Walking Ballista: It deals 1 damage to any target.
0/0
sand island
Appears so
cursive egret
worthy stone
Much better more towards a lower end casual meta do that's understandable
Yeah, I can see it. Itās a little slow for the gameplan of my deck and the playgroups Iām in with itās power level
worthy stone
https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/306/walking-ballista
Thatās what I thought
Updated list
I was proud of the title š»
sand island
+2 points for the alliteration
worthy stone
I was trying to figure out how to make a primer but Iām a dumb baby
My list feels pretty weak in 8 environments but it can survive
Itās a strong 7 for sure
sand island
Like every other deck, yeah
worthy stone
I have my old bumble list which was just an upgraded precon
It was def a 6
It didnāt have a real plan or way to win
It kinda just gave everyone cards and maybe beat someone to death if they took 3 hits
solemn hamlet
To survive at 8 better prob need Grand Abolisher/Kutzil to protect your storming off
sand island
I don't think numerical scoring makes much sense to me. But also having no way to win wouldn't sound like a 6 at all, but lower.
solemn hamlet
That would be full on battle cruiser :b which the precon unupgraded is probably better than battlecruiser
worthy stone
To survive at 8 better prob need Grand Abolisher/Kutzil to protect your storming...
I at first theorycrafted a 8 list. You can actually do a fair bit of infinites with fast mana and tutors since bumble lets you draw the card from tutors, but combo wins donāt really feel that good for me
If you focus the deck on abusing the draw 2 for searching for combo pieces and play a control style with the free mana spells itās quite easy to make a 8 power bumble deck but theyāre never that fun
solemn hamlet
Yeah
worthy stone
In those kind of environments Iād rather play stuff like chatterfang or xyris
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solemn hamlet
He's one of my favorite things to cast in Bumbleflower
Popping him down then a couple turns later equipping him with Sword of War and peace was hilariously effective
worthy stone
He's one of my favorite things to cast in Bumbleflower
He does what I āwantā selv to do
solemn hamlet
Added benefit of being more targeted hug than group
worthy stone
I think
Shadowspear is better than war and peace
But yes it seems fun
3 cmc is rly high
sand island
Yeah John Benton is always my favorite card whenever I see him
solemn hamlet
Shadowspear is better than war and peace
Definitely
sand island
I want to make a commander version of him sometime too
worthy stone
Also
sand island
I also really like Socrates, but it's not as good
sand island
worthy stone
You could acc deck someone out
sand island
Add in psychic possession too. So you draw 30
worthy stone
I donāt remember if I cut windfall or not
sand island
[[windfall]]
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worthy stone
Ya I need to add it back
sand island
I should add that too
worthy stone
Itās rly fun
sand island
milling out might actually be a plan then
worthy stone
I mean
Itās a fringe option lol
Itās not the goal of the deck
But I like the Jank combo potential
solemn hamlet
Do I want to take 10 damage and draw 10?
Why would you not?!
sand island
Since i run [[fruitful fruition]] with [[fractured identity]] anyways
solemn hamlet
*pulls out [[storm seeker]]
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sand island
Sorry, [[forced fruition]]
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worthy stone
Wasnāt storm seeker in the precon
sand island
No
worthy stone
I need to find something to cut for windfall
solemn hamlet
Oh right, that's in the mail for me sleepy
OOH
sand island
I need windfall now too
solemn hamlet
I love that card so much, because it's so weird that it's green
sand island
YAeah definitely seems like a color break
solemn hamlet
Seeing as it's just [[Sudden Impact]]
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worthy stone
I cut sink into stupor
sand island
That's the bounce eh?
sand island
People in this server have so few lands in their decks
worthy stone
I run a ton of dorks
To compensate
I wouldnāt ever go under 33 in bimble
But I liked 34
Iāll test it out
I added an extra ram
In hard bristle
So it should be comparable
solemn hamlet
I count bolt mdfc lands as one full
sand island
Same
worthy stone
Since my curve is so low I can get away with 4-5 lands and dorks
Idk if bala ged is a better cut over sink into stupor
Probably
sand island
I like to have some recursion
worthy stone
I have finale, the counter dude that recovers and noxious
And bala ged
Brainstorm noxious brainstorm is still one of my favorite plays
Bumble and mimeo are my fav decks rn
And xyris when I wanna play high power
sand island
[[mimeo]]
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pastel agate
People in this server have so few lands in their decks
I never go below 34, but i stay at 36 for bumble
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glossy fox
probably
worthy stone
I never go below 34, but i stay at 36 for bumble
My curve for bumble is so low I can get away with it
pastel agate
Fair
worthy stone
Like I have 12 cards above 4 cmc
sand island
I never go below 34, but i stay at 36 for bumble
There was this guy chatting yesterday with like 26 in his deck 
glossy fox
why is there not a thread for all the bloomburrow commanders
sand island
This is it?
glossy fox
This is it?
this is for bumble specificly
worthy stone
There was this guy chatting yesterday with like 26 in his deck <a:WhatBlink:4025...
Thatās wild
sand island
wdym all the bumbleflower commanders then?
worthy stone
this is for bumble specificly
The other ones arenāt cute
glossy fox
bloomburrow
sand island
Oh, I can't read
glossy fox
The other ones arenāt cute
zinnia makes babies
sand island
Which alwasy bites me in MTG
glossy fox
babies are cute
sand island
If you make them, that means you can sac them though Mia
worthy stone
And idek the other one
worthy stone
If you make them, that means you can sac them though Mia
Wait youāre so right
glossy fox
And idek the other one
[[bello bard of brambles]]
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glossy fox
the funny racoon
sand island
Bello is very strong
glossy fox
stronk
sand island
My group got all 4 precons and played them together
One could say he's the thickest in the thicket
worthy stone
I only own bumble
My Walmart has all three
Besides haz
Bc hazel is 120$
For whatever reason
I rly wanted hazel
glossy fox
if i could get all of them i would
worthy stone
And settled on bumble
worthy stone
The new commander decks look so mid
worthy stone
Miracle worker is the only one thatās kinda cool
glossy fox
- simic land deck number 59
sand island
The simic alt commander is great in bumble though
glossy fox
- rakdos everybody hate you deck
sand island
[[kianne, corrupted memory]]
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sand island
worthy stone
None of my creatures benefit from flash
Besides bumble procs
It makes me think about when to give it counters
And I hate cards that make me think
glossy fox
is this the biggest thread yet
sand island
No, but we're getting close
glossy fox
https://discord.com/channels/675113113934364683/1092547804079063191 this one has around 1000 more messages
then there is general deckbuilding one with 9000
worthy stone
Everyone loves bunnies 
sand island
I love Senorita Margarita
worthy stone
Calm down shadow
pastel agate
why is there not a thread for all the bloomburrow commanders
This is a community created thing, a bunch of us were brewing bumbleflower so we did a group thread
pastel agate
https://discord.com/channels/675113113934364683/1092547804079063191 this one has...
Yeah Iāve been around for a hot minute
glossy fox
in the future i might potentially get this precon
worthy stone
I think alt art bumble being over 300$ is a crime
worthy stone
in the future i might potentially get this precon
The precon is rly easily tuned out of the box
pastel agate
I think alt art bumble being over 300$ is a crime
Yes. Not to mention the artist isnāt selling their Proofs, which wouldāve been a far cheaper option
Even if they do end up selling them itāll likely be only within Japan
sand island
I don't care about alt art bubmle, I'm just looking for a spanish bumble now
worthy stone
Yes. Not to mention the artist isnāt selling their Proofs, which wouldāve been a...
I bought a proxy one
pastel agate
Fair
glossy fox
The precon is rly easily tuned out of the box
not getting this one at least until my bello precon comes in the mail
worthy stone
Fuck wotc thinking imma spend over 20$ on one piece of cardboard
glossy fox
it was a birthday gift and my birthday was the first of this month
sand island
Happy birthday
glossy fox
STILL HAS NOT ARRIVED
worthy stone
Ya happy late bday
glossy fox
why does mail take such a long time to arrive
worthy stone
I spent 200$ upgrading my baylen deck, ordering proxies and buying a proxy version of my mimeo deck to test with my friends
glossy fox
I spent 200$ upgrading my baylen deck, ordering proxies and buying a proxy versi...
baylen looks fun
worthy stone
He is
glossy fox
personally im brewing [[kitsa otterball elite]]
brave folioBOT
Legendary Creature ā Otter Wizard
Vigilance
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
: Draw a card, then discard a card.
, : Copy target instant or sorcery spell you control. You may choose new targets for the copy. Activate only if Kitsa's power is 3 or greater.
1/3
glossy fox
i pulled the showcase one
worthy stone
Sick
I got hyped for the mimeo secret lair and spent a week brewing a list
Itās coming in before Halloween too
glossy fox
i dont think its necesarily gonna be a storm deck but just coppying big spells and winning