#Davros precon budget upgrades

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robust breach
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i feel cuts should include

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[[the rani]]

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Legendary Creature — Time Lord Scientist
Whenever The Rani enters the battlefield or attacks, create a red Aura enchantment token named Mark of the Rani attached to another target creature. That token has enchant creature and "Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and is goaded."
Whenever a goaded creature deals combat damage to one of your opponents, investigate.
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[[the beast]]

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Multiple cards match “the beast”, can you be more specific?

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[[the beast, dethless]]

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No card found for “the beast, dethless”

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[[the beast deathless prince]]

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Legendary Creature — Demon
When you cast this spell, gain control of target creature until end of turn. Untap it. It gains menace and haste until end of turn.
The Beast enters the battlefield tapped with six stun counters on it. (If it would become untapped, remove a stun counter from it instead.)
Whenever a creature deals combat damage to its owner, untap The Beast and draw a card.
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forest forge
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Are you keeping the commander as Davros?

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cult of skarro

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[[cult of skarro]]

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waxen monolith
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you should put that in your opening post.

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fair

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fixed it

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[[research theif]] and [[faerie mechanist[[ are cards i would add

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waxen monolith
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Well again, a bunch of the cards in your deck are not with your artifact stragety and should be removed.

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[[faerie mechanist]]

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supple knoll
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Here's where I'd start cutting:
Davros, Dalek Creator
Clockwork Droid
Missy
Renegade Silent
Sontaran General
Sycorax Commander
The Beast, Deathless Prince
The Flood of Mars
The Master, Formed Anew
The Master, Gallifrey's End
The Master, Mesmerist
The Master, Multiplied
The Rani
The Valeyard
Time Reaper
Vashta Nerada
Vislor Turlough
Zygon Infiltrator

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that's absolute minimum, because none of those creatures apply to your strategy

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i dont have the precon yet btw

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i want to get it eventuallt

forest forge
waxen monolith
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hmm, i dunno about additonal combat steps.

forest forge
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you basically wanna attack with the cult as often as possible. Would recommend having as many ways to attack more than once a turn as you can justify

waxen monolith
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Skarro is random chance I feel.

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waxen monolith
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Like the best thing to do is captalize on the fact that two of your four choices are based on artifact creatures.

supple knoll
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More cuts:
Midnight Crusader Shuttle
Ensnared by the Mara
Great Intelligence's Plan
Hunted by The Family
Day of the Moon
The Sound of Drums
The Toymaker's Trap
Wound Reflection
This Is How It Ends

waxen monolith
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one is a good draw, and the last one is kind of meh

supple knoll
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well, I'd do a little of both, more combat steps gives you more chances at a good option

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[[relentless assult]]

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supple knoll
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but ideally you focus on making the dalek tokens and cybermen good, first

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because you know what you're getting with those

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[[military intelligence]]

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supple knoll
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what's that one creature that's just "artifact creatures cost 1 less"

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[[Foundry Inspector]] ?

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supple knoll
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ah even better, spells

waxen monolith
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You def should focus on the staples

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[[Etherium Sculptor]] for example

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supple knoll
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you should get Foundry Inspector and Etherium Sculptor ASAP

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[[Emry, Lurker of the Loch]]

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supple knoll
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Urza, Lord High Artificer, as well

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[[Urza, Lord High Artificer]]

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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
When Urza, Lord High Artificer enters the battlefield, create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with "This creature gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control."
Tap an untapped artifact you control: Add manau.
mana5: Shuffle your library, then exile the top card. Until end of turn, you may play that card without paying its mana cost.
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[[$urza lord high artifacer]]

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supple knoll
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i think he's cheapish now? if he's still expensive maybe hold off

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oh he's only $10 now, nice

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out of my current price range

supple knoll
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yeah, then hold off until you can

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if im spending 80 dollars on a precon

supple knoll
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but he's a pretty big upgrade for the deck because he's a win condition

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im not spending 10 dollars on a signle card

supple knoll
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this may not be what you wanna hear but it may be better to get the pieces you actually want individually

waxen monolith
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[[Enthusiastic Mechanaut]] too

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supple knoll
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since so much of the deck should be cut

waxen monolith
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Yeah

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thats an assessment you have to make for yourself, though

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[[susicous bookcase]]

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waxen monolith
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lemme draft a deck

supple knoll
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weirdly, most of the removal in this deck is actually fine

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it's not great, but it can suffice

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[[lorien brooch]]

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supple knoll
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yeah, making things unblockable is very helpful

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[[assualt suit]] is just a funny thing to add

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No card found for “assualt suit”

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supple knoll
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[[Rogue Class]]

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Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, exile the top card of that player's library face down. You may look at it for as long as it remains exiled.
mana1manaumanab: Level 2
Creatures you control have menace.
mana2manaumanab: Level 3
You may play cards exiled with Rogue Class, and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast those spells.

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but its funny

supple knoll
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you might not want rogue class specifically but you want that menace effect

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and i think one of the angraths gives that?

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supple knoll
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yep, research thief is a good pick here

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[[faerie mechanist]]

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supple knoll
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oh, and [[Covert Technician]]

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[[darksteel citadel]]

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supple knoll
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if you have evasion you might as well be playing cards for free

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[[drossforge bridge]]

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the precon is lacking artifact lands

supple knoll
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yeah, the tapped artifact bridges are probably a good start

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you probably want [[Spire of Industry]] as well?

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robust breach
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ill keep some of the other ones

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the precon lands

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but ill add some of the bridges

supple knoll
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i dont know if spire's in the precon offhand

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it isnt

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nope

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i ahve it open

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[[$spire of industry]]

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supple knoll
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yeah, cheap still

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from the new set, i dont know how expensive it is yet but

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[[Great Train Heist]] is your #1 pick for bonus combats

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robust breach
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i really like

supple knoll
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because it also lets you generate treasures

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it would give you 3 cult of skarro triggers

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[[$great train heist]]

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"Nonlegendary"

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oh

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that sucks

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still helpfull though

supple knoll
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yeah it's not great but is still a useful dude for copying creatures, especially if they make tokens when they come in

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gotta be careful because myriad copies dont get attack triggers

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but they are attacking

supple knoll
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they dont declare an attack though

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huh

supple knoll
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which is what's required for a "when this attacks" trigger

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they just enter already attacking

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definitely grab a copy of train heist though when you can, i know they might be hard to find rn since set's not quite out yet

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ooo it has blasphemous act

supple knoll
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yes it does

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[[silas renn]]

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supple knoll
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Silas Renn is good if you've got it

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no

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but he is under a dollar

supple knoll
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yeah that's a good pickup then

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especially with evasion

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supple knoll
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it's probably fine until you can get a better option

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i own it

supple knoll
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oh, speaking of artifact creatures and drawing

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[[Baleful Strix]]

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supple knoll
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this card should still be beyond cheap

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literally just got reprinted

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supple knoll
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there you go, about a dollar

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and it's in your colors, draws you a card, and is a solid attacker since it comes with evasion and deathtouch

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supple knoll
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its about as good on removal as you're gonna get for the price

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what happens if the cyberman dies?

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is the card dead

supple knoll
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it flips back over and goes in the grave

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in that order

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so they get the death trigger

supple knoll
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yes

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making sure on that bc i could be wrong but i remember talking about this

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they reprinted progoganda too???

supple knoll
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"You will not get a death trigger. At the time of death it was a nameless creature with no abilities and so it had nothing to trigger."

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i was wrong

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and yes propaganda was in the precon

robust breach
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why do they all of a sudden want to put a ton of good cards in precons

supple knoll
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yeah, it's not great in this deck but it is less bad than a lot of the cards in the deck, so probably keep it in until you need to replace it

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they've always done that

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they missed lots of chances in the 2020 obuun precon

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like adding swiftfoot boots or lighting greaves

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or blackblade reforged

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supple knoll
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thats a very reasonable list to upgrade the precon

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and you can go further from there very easily

sour bough
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this is my list

waxen monolith
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Yeah I made that list up

sour bough
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more spellslinger/copy/burn focused

supple knoll
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you kept the beast in there notlikesinclair

sour bough
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but there are some good generic pieces

waxen monolith
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Did I miss it? Lol

supple knoll
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YES

waxen monolith
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Yeah take that our for like, [[counterspell]] or something

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supple knoll
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please replace it with The Great Train Heist

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arcane deinal

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better than couterspelll

supple knoll
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counterspell, delay, arcane denial

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denial is not better than counterspell

sour bough
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an offer you cant refuse

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an offer is already in

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[[The Great Train Heist]]

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sour bough
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i am blind then

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gives you an extra combat spell that's also a combat trick and/or a mana generator

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