Satyr typal is pretty goofy and fun
#General deckbuilding Q&A and Short Discussion
queen ivy
rotund forge
Red clones are obviously more like Kiki. So I guess looking at "We're here for a good time, not a long time"
queen ivy
Definitely a low power theme but a fun one
gray nest
....[[Gruff Triplets]] are satyrs?
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rotund forge
I'm not even talking about just going satyrs. Just, what are things that synergize with her
Yep
gray nest
Wow
rotund forge
So even if you make a clone of it, while it doesn't make more tokens it does at least give out counters when it dies.
gray nest
Also gets significant value from the lord effect
rotund forge
I call something pseudo-typal when there's a synergy developing but there aren't enough creatures to be a deck based around it.
But they give some direction to build around.
queen ivy
There are a good few Satyrs with a tap ability that ramps you so I see what you mean
rotund forge
This is the quick spitball of the things I"ve been thinking about wrt Gallia https://www.moxfield.com/decks/uv2c9Mpzyki-9OfnUUZ0CQ
I generously have 14 satyr in that + Xenagos
graceful knot
What are your "sultai superfriends must haves" that aren't planeswalkers? (Already have my 16 choices for those slots)
Bonus points for permanents, double bonus points if they somehow work well with Muldrotha as that's the commander
I have a WIP list, but I feel a little bit unsure.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/blHm8xrmgE6L3OREJK4BuQ
Ignore the landbase for the most part, it's just the cheap package.
Thinking of cutting some of the proliferate in favour of better protection but no idea what form that would take.
gray nest
What are your "sultai superfriends must haves" that *aren't* planeswalkers? (Alr...
[[bioessence hydra]] [[carth, the lion]] [[fallaji wayfarer]]
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Creature ā Human Scout
Fallaji Wayfarer is all colors. This ability doesn't affect its color identity. (It can be in any deck whose commander's color identity includes green.)
Multicolored spells you cast have convoke. (Your creatures can help cast those spells. Each creature you tap while casting a multicolored spell pays for 
or one mana of a color that creature is.)
2/4
rotund forge
I think [[Staff of Compleation]] has a point in this deck
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Artifact
, Pay 1 life: Destroy target permanent you own.
, Pay 2 life: Add one mana of any color.
, Pay 3 life: Proliferate.
, Pay 4 life: Draw a card.
: Untap Staff of Compleation.
rotund forge
Destroying a permanent you own means you can replay it with Muldrotha or trigger death/ltb effects without flickering.
I'd probably swap it with [[Throne of Geth]] even though the staff is one more.
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Artifact
, Sacrifice an artifact: Proliferate. (Choose any number of permanents and/or players, then give each another counter of each kind already there.)
At the heart of Ish Sah, Geth stokes the dark fires of Phyrexia.
graceful knot
Really? Throne being a 2 mana proliferate on my turn every turn is really nice to me, and a way to dodge exile removal on artifacts
Fallaji Wayfarer? Why?
I'm not sold on the staff. I've heard people say it's good but it's a lot of life to be giving up
Plus with kitten, Throne becomes repeatable (sac itself, cast, blink muldy, repeat)
Staff I get, and could feasibly make a cut for. But it likely won't be Throne
rotund forge
I found I would run out of artifacts with throne but Muldrotha's flicker reset helps a lot
graceful knot
You can just sacrifice it to itself, hard to run out
At least that's how I've used it in my current build (muldrotha poison)
rotund forge
Yeah, as I said Muldrotha's ability helps there. In a Naya golem deck, less so
graceful knot
Oh yea I see that
rotund forge
But triggering Carth's ability seemed like a good thing too.
I'd have to think more on suggestions for swaps though.
gray nest
Fallaji Wayfarer? Why?
Cos a lot of Planeswalkers are multicoloured and convoke is so much better than everyone thinks it is.
Yeah you aren't doing the big convoke turns but the card can do wonders for making wierd mana costs much way more castable and expensive things slightly cheaper
rotund forge
OH! [[Honor Worn Shaku]]
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Artifact
: Add 
.
Tap an untapped legendary permanent you control: Untap Honor-Worn Shaku.
Before being presented to its lord, each shaku is blessed by every hero of every region within that lord's domain.
rotund forge
You can tap planeswalkers to untap the shaku
That was the one that was bothering me because I hadn't seen in the list
graceful knot
I have one spare from dihada
I think i often forget I will want colourless mana cause walkers are intensive but like.. they also have generic costs lol
Yeah I'll find a space for that.
rotund forge
It just also helps on doing the recasting loop for the throne š
royal pewter
Do I cut Bloodchief Ascension or Exquisite Blood for The Meathook Massacre?
royal pewter
Ramp is only coming out for other ramp - 2mv or less ramping by an equal or lesser amount. Gotta keep mulligans smooth.
Iāve been leaning on yeeting Bloodchief, since it usually wants 2~ turn cycles to come online while Exquisite Blood twists the game immediately. So while Exquisite is the big spell for the turn, the impact is there immediately.
Iāll take out Bloodchief Ascension tomorrow.
tardy prawn
I don't love the design of Fallaji but damn do they pop off in my [[Aragorn the uniter]] soldiers list
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tribal jetty
I really like the new [[Virtue of Loyalty]] enchantment from WOE but I don't know if this deck really needs it. And when I say that, the decklist is very tight as it is so finding something to cut for it is almost impossible.
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Enchantment
At the beginning of your end step, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control. Untap those creatures.
Ardenvale Fealty 
Instant ā Adventure
Create a 2/2 white Knight creature token with vigilance. (Then exile this card. You may cast the enchantment later from exile.)
tribal jetty
And in addition, I'm sure we've all heard the discussion of [[Stroke of Midnight]] vs [[Generous Gift]], and while I would like to run both, I have lots of other removal in Orzhov that I don't think I can.
tribal jetty
So I run the borderless Generous Gift for the bling aspect, and if I really need to hit a Tabernacle or Glacial Chasm. But I am still open to considering cutting it for the new Stroke of Midnight.
But I still would like some advice on whether or not I can fit [[Virtue of Loyalty]] into my Karlov deck, thx
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Enchantment
At the beginning of your end step, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control. Untap those creatures.
Ardenvale Fealty
Instant ā Adventure
Create a 2/2 white Knight creature token with vigilance. (Then exile this card. You may cast the enchantment later from exile.)
graceful knot
I don't think it actually does enough for the deck as a whole imo.
Not at the level and gameplan it sits at
rotund forge
Quick opinion. [[Tazri, Stalwart Survivor]] food
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Legendary Creature ā Human Warrior
Each creature you control has ": Add one mana of any of this creature's colors. Spend this mana only to activate an ability of a creature. Activate only if this creature has another activated ability."
, : Mill five cards. Put all creature cards with activated abilities that aren't mana abilities from among the milled cards into your hand.
3/3
rotund forge
Does that at least sort of feel connected or does it feel too much like it's for color ID?
queen ivy
Does that at least sort of feel connected or does it feel too much like it's for...
This
Too much for color id
Not too many food synergy creatures have activated abilities
tribal jetty
I don't think it actually does enough for the deck as a whole imo.
Ok how about [[Virtue of Persistence]] then? Literally just [[Debtor's Knell]] with removal that also gains me life
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Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control.
Locthwain Scorn
Sorcery ā Adventure
Target creature gets -3/-3 until end of turn. You gain 2 life.
Enchantment
(
can be paid with either or .)
At the beginning of your upkeep, put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control.
One moment, conscious only of a sense of repose. The next moment, hearing the trudge of his own footsteps. He sighed and squinted into the glare ahead.
terse dust
What do you think about [[shakedown Heavy]] ? I'm wondering to give it a try in my [[Kamiz, Obscura]] deck ...
rotund forge
Shakedown heavy is interesting especially if you can keep the life pressure up so people start giving you the card draw to prevent attacks
queen ivy
What do you think about [[shakedown Heavy]] ? I'm wondering to give it a try in ...
Itās fine, they can still remove it from combat if you give it unblockable OR double strike, but I do like the ādamned if you do, damned if you donātā style of it
Itās always been a super interesting card to me
In control lists itās backbreaking
In aggro lists itās a lose lose for your opponent
rotund forge
If they use removal on it, its been a pretty low resource investment on your part.
Which is always win-win
queen ivy
Itās so good in every aspect, though giving your opponents a choice kinda sucks
rotund forge
I think there has to be a deck that's both fun and miserable to play in BX that's just choice for your opponents.
Not entirely a political one
queen ivy
Thatās how I built my [[Garna bloodfist of keld]] deck
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rotund forge
But like [[Protection Racket]]
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queen ivy
Make tokens with haste and they either take it or I draw a card
queen ivy
But like [[Protection Racket]]
Honestly very lackluster to me
This is my [[smugglers share]], it literally has never worked and has managed to exile about half my lands in one game before
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rotund forge
I know a lot of people have felt that way but its done well for my husband in his Henzie deck
But then the average mv of that deck is absurd.
[[Henzie, Toolbox, Torre]]
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Legendary Creature ā Devil Rogue
Each creature spell you cast with mana value 4 or greater has blitz. The blitz cost is equal to its mana cost. (You may choose to cast that spell for its blitz cost. If you do, it gains haste and "When this creature dies, draw a card." Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.)
Blitz costs you pay cost less for each time you've cast your commander from the command zone this game.
3/3
queen ivy
The only good thing I hit off protection racket was [[beacon of tomorrows]] butā¦ I wanted to cast it, not hit someone for 8.
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queen ivy
The exile is probably the main egregious thing it does, if it was graveyard then itād be pretty good
Like a triple [[sin prodder]]
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rotund forge
Mm
queen ivy
But like I said before, youāll never draw a land from it and those lands are just gone
So good luck
Run [[Keen Duelist]] instead
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queen ivy
Or bob, or twilight prophet, or my favorite [[Duskmantle seer]]
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rotund forge
mm party bob
queen ivy
Or hell, run party [[Jace beleren]]
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calm tartan
He will last shorter than an arena, but I generally run him if I want to give everyone cards, which was my mono-blue deck
livid condor
Is there any way to get a list of all creatures with power/toughness defining abilities?
Like Ashaya or Scourge of the Skyclaves
gray nest
power=x or toughness=x gets a lot
pale monolith
https://scryfall.com/@Mirage872003/decks/ec05d1e7-68ff-4ba8-82db-52a34a1b8d76 could I possibly get some ideas with this deck
proud elm
I want to gift my godchild a deck, what do you think of this list? https://archidekt.com/decks/5386463/jonas_2
gray nest
Are there song of serenity type effects in orzhov?
Thinking of building an [[Eriette]] list and don't really wanna go whoops all pacifisms
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gray nest
[[Eriette of the charmed apple]]
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rotund forge
They can still attack, they just can't attack you.
gray nest
I have just read [[dragon shadow]] this will end badly
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rotund forge
[[Dragon Scales]] also exists
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gray nest
...and objectively the funniest way to use [[mantle of the ancients]]
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livid condor
power=x or toughness=x gets a lot
It doesn't really because it's just power=0 so it grabs everything that's just 0/0
shrewd spire
how do we feel about [[call of the wild]] and what does a deck need for it to be worthwhile? a lot of top deck manipulation for sure. but like a lot of big beaters?
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Enchantment
: Reveal the top card of your library. If it's a creature card, put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, put it into your graveyard.
From a whisper to a roar, the call is heard by all and refused by none.
gray nest
So it isn't good, but it is cool
To maximise value we need to think of what it's actually doing
We are paying 4 mana for an effect that either mills 1 or puts a creature into the battlefield from the top.
You make the card better in your deck by either:
- Maximising potential wins (running creatures that you gain the most from hitting)
- Mitigating losses (if you're deck wants to spend 4 mana to mill 1 you can laugh all the way to the bank with this)
- Reducing your odds of losing.
3 is easily done via scrying or other topdeck manipulation, 2 is usually done by having access to a lot of mana or some forms of gy recursion for non creatures, 1 is easiest done by running good high cost creatures
reef yacht
Based on what you said, you would need to make a deck with access to Black and Blue. Sultai would work well for it
gray nest
Selesnya big stuff with stuff like E witness would probably do it
graceful knot
Or hear me out just do it green only. [[Hau physician]]
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graceful knot
[[Hua tou]]
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Legendary Creature ā Human
: Put target creature card from your graveyard on top of your library. Activate only during your turn, before attackers are declared.
1/2
graceful knot
Enables a lot, including [[lurking predators]]
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wheat glen
I'd like some feedback to improve my decklist
The goal is simply to ramp and draw a lot in a turn to make many tokens and eventually attack with them or win because I drain life
trim rock
[[Raise the Palisade]] could be a great finisher or control tool depending on the match if you'd like to consider it.
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trim rock
Not sure if you really need Regna, since she is slower than this deck is looking to have and she also is the same mana cost as your commander.
[[Virtue of Loyalty]] could be a great asset.
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Enchantment
At the beginning of your end step, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control. Untap those creatures.
Ardenvale Fealty
Instant ā Adventure
Create a 2/2 white Knight creature token with vigilance. (Then exile this card. You may cast the enchantment later from exile.)
trim rock
Since it'll create a Knight token and then later become a powerful buffing anthem for your board.
Similarly, since you seem to have a decent number of ETB's [[Virtue of Knowledge]] could be useful as well.
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Enchantment
If a permanent entering the battlefield causes a triggered ability of a permanent you control to trigger, that ability triggers an additional time.
Vantress Visions
Instant ā Adventure
Copy target activated or triggered ability you control. You may choose new targets for the copy.
trim rock
Also might be a good idea to consider a [[Winds of Abandon]] as another mass removal spell that won't completely remove your board and also works well of your own ramping.
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Sorcery
Exile target creature you don't control. For each creature exiled this way, its controller searches their library for a basic land card. Those players put those cards onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Overload 
(You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change "target" in its text to "each.")
trim rock
And if you can afford her or have one, [[Sheoldred the Apocalypse]] provides great value for a deck that draws heavy like this and can also punish your own opponents.
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trim rock
And if you are up for a potential ramp option, [[Lilliana of the Dark Realms]] can pull you a Swamp each turn and it shouldn't be too hard to protect her with all your Vigilance and tokens and potential fliers. As well as providing very powerful tools in her other abilities.
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Legendary Planeswalker ā Liliana
+1: Search your library for a Swamp card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
ā3: Target creature gets +X/+X or -X/-X until end of turn, where X is the number of Swamps you control.
ā6: You get an emblem with "Swamps you control have ': Add .'"
Loyalty: 3
trim rock
Otherwise your deck is looking pretty good I think!
wheat glen
@trim rock I appreciate the help tho yea Sheoldred is really out of budget, I'll never buy it and the vertues a big pricy too but eventually why not
If you say the deck is pretty solid I guess I can go like that
Do I want counterspells
trim rock
One or two at least is safe.
trim rock
Hmm... tbh it seems like you have more knight synergies than vampire synergies.
Especially since most of your creatures are knights so if you can find more utility as opposed to the vampire synergy creatures maybe cut those?
wheat glen
Mmh right
gray nest
[[Alhammaret's archive]] [[ayara first of locthwain]] [[drogskol reaver]] [[exsanguinator cavalry]] [[herald of hoofbeats]]
Would be my recs
I'm not a fan of greyfax or ojutai and yeah I'm not sold on the vamp synergies in this deck or some of
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Legendary Creature ā Elf Noble
Whenever Ayara, First of Locthwain or another black creature enters the battlefield under your control, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
, Sacrifice another black creature: Draw a card.
Mourning shifts seamlessly to celebration as she chooses her next suitor.
2/3
Creature ā Vampire Knight
Menace, lifelink
Whenever a Knight you control deals combat damage to a player, put a +1/+1 counter on that creature and create a Blood token. (It's an artifact with ", , Discard a card, Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.")
2/3
wheat glen
[[Alhammaret's archive]] [[ayara first of locthwain]] [[drogskol reaver]] [[exsa...
I see, actually there's Ayara in the list, also I didn't know Exanguinator was a good card
Just did some cuts
I removed Ragna, Monastery Siege, Markov Baron
gray nest
I see, actually there's Ayara in the list, also I didn't know Exanguinator was a...
Sorry must have missed aryara in your list
Exsanguinator has a tendency to be the 105th card in a lot of knight lists
It's solid but doesn't quite do what most decks want
However it does exactly what your deck wants to do, it makes your small knights a bit bigger and gives you a load of stored up draw you can leave until you throw down a big piece and want to draw a lot (and your deck has enough mana to make that work)
wheat glen
I added Exsanguinator Cavalry, Syr Konrad
I'll cut Ojutai
Is it a good idea to add Narset, the one that restrict draw
For opp
I might add counterspells too
Like Negate and Wash Away
Idk if I want March of Swirling Mist and Unbreakable Formation in the list
After all I don't really care that much if my creatures die... I guess?
I personally like Greyfax a lot so i'll keep that one
dusk oasis
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ioCZMlWJQ0ussUQkVRgkLg need to make two cuts!
currently am considering survival so it's tutorless. bowmasters is another card that I'm wary about for the power level, but I also haven't seen the card on the table and am morbidly curious.
general approach: as little tutors, fast mana, free spells as possible; damage is the most common way games end
reef yacht
So I feel like this deck could be better but idk how to go about it. Was trying to make clues with the deck but i feel I need to drive it to a different direction and would like some feedback
rotund forge
I'm wondering about the two additional artifact ability related copy creatures
reef yacht
Which ones?
rotund forge
[[Tawnos|C18]] and [[Kurkesh]]
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Legendary Creature ā Human Artificer
Haste
, : Copy target activated or triggered ability you control from an artifact source. You may choose new targets for the copy. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
"My master believes anything is achievable."
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Legendary Creature ā Ogre Spirit
Whenever you activate an ability of an artifact, if it isn't a mana ability, you may pay . If you do, copy that ability. You may choose new targets for the copy.
The Onakke were masters of dark arts and artifice. Their creations continue to spread foul magic, paving the way for their return.
4/3
reef yacht
Oh those guys. I have them and I forgot
To put them in I mean
It always does the thing but rarely wins and I feel it will need to be focused
rotund forge
Mm
Arcum feels like he needs more artifact creature support. Without encroaching mycosynth you have like 8 sources of them.
rotund forge
I don't know if that just looks like [[Sai, master thopterist]] instead of the sage or if there are other things like [[Mirrodin Beseiged]]
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Legendary Creature ā Human Artificer
Whenever you cast an artifact spell, create a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying.
, Sacrifice two artifacts: Draw a card.
"Industry without artistry is just a fancy way to fill the junkyard."
1/4
rotund forge
I like how low to the ground the deck is
And I'm probably overly fond of KCI loops
[[Liquimetal Torque]] feels like it deserves a slot
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Artifact
: Add .
: Target nonland permanent becomes an artifact in addition to its other types until end of turn.
"Weaponized jewelry has a long and respected history." āErvos Trax
rotund forge
Just because it can make things like Daretti an artifact
reef yacht
Yeah. Just is stuff that I had laying about so I havenāt improved it.
reef yacht
I like how low to the ground the deck is
It was what I was trying to achive.
rotund forge
If you have a [[Thopter Spy Network]] that might be better than Efficient construction
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rotund forge
It's one of those things where I know you said you haven't had a chance to update it, I'm just trying to think of cards that you realistically may have as a "have an extra one" just because i know you like artifact decks as much as I do
reef yacht
Yeah. I have it. Just tends to not do as much when I use it lately.
reef yacht
It's one of those things where I know you said you haven't had a chance to updat...
Its weird that at this point you know this. (Sweats in extra Artifact Staples)
rotund forge
LOL. You've said it in other threads and both Breya and Drafna discussions.
Also, I point out even if I didn't know that, you said it was what you had lying around and you have [[Etherium Astrolabe]] in the deck
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Artifact
Flash
, , Sacrifice an artifact: Draw a card.
"Speculation is foolish when the tools of certainty are available." āCinna, vedalken consul
rotund forge
An uncommon from Shards of Alara that's a pretty deep cut for inclusion that you just have.
It's in 8% of Ashnod the Uncaring decks as surveyed by EDHRec
Though I'm shocked [[Retrofitter Foundry]] is as low as it is there...
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Artifact
: Untap Retrofitter Foundry.
, : Create a 1/1 colorless Servo artifact creature token.
, , Sacrifice a Servo: Create a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying.
, Sacrifice a Thopter: Create a 4/4 colorless Construct artifact creature token.
rotund forge
Yes I did read/watch a lot of Sherlock Holmes books/TV as a child...
reef yacht
Lol
Yeah. I had that Astrolabe almost 4 years now and just now found the right deck for it.
reef yacht
An uncommon from Shards of Alara that's a pretty deep cut for inclusion that you...
It is also a pet card
reef yacht
Though I'm shocked [[Retrofitter Foundry]] is as low as it is there...
Should probably get another one. I traded mine
rotund forge
Yeah, it's at least not the absurd prices it was at for a bit (when I sold the second one I'd bought)
It's still $10 though
rotund forge
Yeah, I got $30 for it at my store.
It was in the trade I did for the one dual land I have.
I paid 60 cents for it so it owed me nothing.
reef yacht
I get it. If youāre not using it, might as well get rid of it.
I won 2 lotus petals foil etched from the FNM and ended up trading one away.
reef yacht
It's one of those things where I know you said you haven't had a chance to updat...
Probs needs@more stuff that does things when they go to the graveyard like Ichor Wellspring and such. And a better recursion suite for the deck to get stuff back more often. Is where Iāve seen the deck durdle. I sometimes have a lot of sack outlets and nothing worthwile to sack or its all in the GY
rotund forge
[[Mirran Spy]] at least helps loop with Emry, but you need both at the same time.
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reef yacht
I keep forgetting about that but wont i run out of mana?
rotund forge
It depends what you're casting with Emry
reef yacht
Im back. I gave up on making a new Mono-White deck. Brain canāt compute to make something work, so I went back to some of the old āTo Doā deck lists I have and found this. Just want to run it through the wringer to have an extra set of eyes look at it and give me any ideas/pointers as to what should be swapped to make it better before I start buying the modifications to the Necron deck.
Its designed to run with Tormod or Imotekh at the helm.
reef yacht
this is the new thing I want to focus. Aside from Ashnod @rotund forge.
rotund forge
I've been looking at it and I'm having to spend some time on it just because most of the ideas I've had for the Necron are combo decks.
@reef yacht What are you finding about it that you think needs adjusting?
reef yacht
I havenāt built it yet. Just wanted someone to give it a second look before I started modifying thoid deck
As in the OG necron deck
rotund forge
Yeah
reef yacht
Probs it could use better recursion than what It has atm. But š¤·āāļø
rotund forge
I don't know if Imotekh does as much but one thing I found is the deck wants lifelink.
Or just incidental ways of gaining life like [[Scrapyard]]
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reef yacht
[[Scrapheap]]
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rotund forge
Thanks.
Lembas and the elixir help
I don't like the [[Scrapheap Scavenger]] here.
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Artifact Creature ā Construct
Scrapheap Scrounger can't block.
, Exile another creature card from your graveyard: Return Scrapheap Scrounger from your graveyard to the battlefield.
Some machines refuse to accept their own obsolescence.
3/2
reef yacht
Yeah. Hence why theyāre there.
reef yacht
I don't like the [[Scrapheap Scavenger]] here.
I added it mainly cuz it was a cheap artifact that would net me 4 cards if I had tormod on board.
Very limiting though so I see why
rotund forge
What about [[Codex Shredder]]?
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Artifact
: Target player mills a card. (They put the top card of their library into their graveyard.)
, , Sacrifice Codex Shredder: Return target card from your graveyard to your hand.
rotund forge
Other artifacts that might be useful. [[Blood Fountain]] [[Resurrection Orb]] [[Spine of Ish Shah]] [[Trading Post]] [[Vat of Rebirth]]
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Artifact
When Blood Fountain enters the battlefield, create a Blood token. (It's an artifact with ", , Discard a card, Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.")
, , Sacrifice Blood Fountain: Return up to two target creature cards from your graveyard to your hand.
Artifact ā Equipment
Equipped creature has lifelink.
Whenever equipped creature dies, return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.
Equip (: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
Artifact
, , Discard a card: You gain 4 life.
, , Pay 1 life: Create a 0/1 white Goat creature token.
, , Sacrifice a creature: Return target artifact card from your graveyard to your hand.
, , Sacrifice an artifact: Draw a card.
Artifact
Whenever another artifact or creature you control is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, put an oil counter on Vat of Rebirth.
, , Remove four oil counters from Vat of Rebirth: Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. Activate only as a sorcery.
rotund forge
Orb is expensive to equip. So that's an issue.
But the fountain and the vat are pretty low-maintenance.
reef yacht
My issue as to why I didnāt add Vat and Orb was because of how delayed the trigger was. I wanted to get more stuff back out as quickly as possible. Ish sah is something I should actually put in both in this deck and Drafna
I have some stuff in considering too that i didnāt know if ti was good. Changed the scrap dude for Codex Shredder
Like [[Scourge of Nel Toth]] and [[Raise the Draugr]]
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Creature ā Zombie Dragon
Flying
You may cast Scourge of Nel Toth from your graveyard by paying and sacrificing two creatures rather than paying its mana cost.
"May all the cairns of Jund be toppled." āMeren of Clan Nel Toth
6/6
rotund forge
I like [[Back for Seconds]] a little more than Raise the Draugr
hollow latchBOT
rotund forge
Even if it's a sorcery and costs 1 more.
It doesn't care about the types of the creatures and can put one on the battlefield instead.
And that includes your commander.
reef yacht
What ya suggest cutting for thst sorcery?
rotund forge
[[Haunted Crossroads]]?
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Enchantment
: Put target creature card from your graveyard on top of your library.
It seemed as if no one wanted them to reach the Henge of Ramosānot even the dead.
rotund forge
You don't have the mill->battlefield commander in the deck
I know Tortured Existence forces the exchange but that can be sculpted to your advantage.
And costs 2 less to cast.
reef yacht
Removed Haunted Crossroads
Added Back for seconds
Been on the fence if I want to keep Portal to Phyrexia in the deck and replace it for more Early-game gains
Same with Scarecrone
rotund forge
I'd keep them both in for now
reef yacht
Makes sense. I did get rid of my old scarecrone a few weeks ago before I remembered I had this list š«
What are your thoughts on [[Lifeline]]
hollow latchBOT
rotund forge
I think my thought on lifeline are tied up with [[Polukranos Reborn]]
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Legendary Creature ā Hydra
Reach
: Transform Polukranos Reborn. Activate only as a sorcery. ( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Freed from the Underworld, the World Eater resumed his endless feast with reckless enthusiasm.
4/5
Polukranos, Engine of Ruin
Legendary Creature ā Phyrexian Hydra
Reach, lifelink
Whenever Polukranos, Engine of Ruin or another nontoken Hydra you control dies, create a 3/3 green and white Phyrexian Hydra creature token with reach and a 3/3 green and white Phyrexian Hydra creature token with lifelink.
6/6
reef yacht
Gross. I love the synnergy
reef yacht
More battle cruiser type unless you ramp like a maniac but I can see it working
rotund forge
I'd probably take ramp like a maniac
And [[maskwood nexus]] to use the cards like [[Moonmist]]
hollow latchBOT
Artifact
Creatures you control are every creature type. The same is true for creature spells you control and creature cards you own that aren't on the battlefield.
, : Create a 2/2 blue Shapeshifter creature token with changeling. (It is every creature type.)
rotund forge
This is how my brain works (or fails to)
reef yacht
Yeah. I get it. Sometimes my brain canāt make ideas work and I just have to give up and pivot somewhere else
rotund forge
I'm just over here working but also thinking about what Columbo episodes are my decks
I realized that I think all of my decks that I like have a Columbo episode that they work with
So I've been on the process of matching them.
I got 2 more today, which feels good
reef yacht
<.<
rotund forge
Torbran gets to be "Short Fuse" and Shadowfax is "Strange Bedfellows."
reef yacht
Never saw the show myself but heard about it
rotund forge
Short Fuse involves small explosions on a mountain and Strange Bedfellows involves thoroughbred horses.
My favorite one is my [[Jinnie Fay]] is "How to Dial a Murder"
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rotund forge
Where a person trained his dogs to respond do a command to kill someone that he was able to deliver through the phone.
graceful knot
I'd love to say "spoilers" but that's not how columbo works š
rotund forge
Yeah, the spoilers are usually for how the murderer gets caught.
graceful knot
I always thought it was fun how much they reused actors
rotund forge
There weren't that many repeat murderers. But there were definitely some
graceful knot
More than most!
rotund forge
Yeah. We can move it to #tv-and-film for more discussion?
reef yacht
Lol.
I need to redo Jinnie Fay from the ground up but Iām not too keen on brewing at the moment. Ashnod and Imotehk are because I already have a list built and will just need adjustments to make them better
trim rock
I need to redo Jinnie Fay from the ground up but Iām not too keen on brewing at ...
If you need help, you can check out my Jinnie Fay list.
Just be sure to hit me up.
reef yacht
If you need help, you can check out my Jinnie Fay list.
Thanks. Not working on that atm but will try to remember when I get back to that deck
trim rock
Ofc! š
zinc minnow
Need to figure out best cards to break [[river song]]
hollow latchBOT
tardy prawn
[[Arjun, the shifting flame]] is funny, even if he doesn't do very much. Future sight effects are also improved with her.
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tardy prawn
[[Field of Ruin]] is essential, [[From the Ashes]] is fantastic
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Land
: Add .
, , Sacrifice Field of Ruin: Destroy target nonbasic land an opponent controls. Each player searches their library for a basic land card, puts it onto the battlefield, then shuffles.
rotund forge
Need to figure out best cards to break [[river song]]
[[Alrund, God of the Cosmos]]
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Legendary Creature ā God
Alrund gets +1/+1 for each card in your hand and each foretold card you own in exile.
At the beginning of your end step, choose a card type, then reveal the top two cards of your library. Put all cards of the chosen type revealed this way into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
1/1
Hakka, Whispering Raven
Legendary Creature ā Bird
Flying
Whenever Hakka, Whispering Raven deals combat damage to a player, return it to its owner's hand, then scry 2.
Alrund's raven soars between realms; no secret is beyond his grasp.
2/3
rotund forge
Though [[Timestream Navigator]] is the more obvious one
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Creature ā Human Pirate Wizard
Ascend (If you control ten or more permanents, you get the city's blessing for the rest of the game.)
, , Put Timestream Navigator on the bottom of its owner's library: Take an extra turn after this one. Activate only if you have the city's blessing.
1/1
rotund forge
[[Teferi's Puzzle Box]] is asymmetrical
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rotund forge
Anything that lets you put things on the bottom of your deck in any order is good.
[[Dig Through Time]] might be an exception though because it feels like a good way to put 5 cards you don't want where you're drawing.
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Instant
Delve (Each card you exile from your graveyard while casting this spell pays for .)
Look at the top seven cards of your library. Put two of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
rotund forge
It's worth noting she's a rogue too, so prowl works for things like [[Thieves Fortune]]
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Tribal Instant ā Rogue
Prowl (You may cast this for its prowl cost if you dealt combat damage to a player this turn with a Rogue.)
Look at the top four cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
prime snow
Need to figure out best cards to break [[river song]]
[[impulse]] effects.
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prime snow
it also lets you [[brainstorm]] and not nessicarly have a shuffle on standby too
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livid condor
Is there anything that does what [[Hive Mind]] does (force opponents to cast spells)?
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wispy sinew
[[Possibility Storm]] forces players to change whatever spell they cast from hand to the next spell from their deck that matches the card type. [[Knowledge Pool]] forces players to exchange spells they cast from hand to whatever is available in the pool. In both cases, players are forced to cast spells, but this affects everyone, not just opponents.
rotund forge
Demonstrate makes them copy
reef yacht
Found out I need Spot Removal in my Drafna deck and I have a [[Cityscape Leveler]] and a [[Meteor Golem]] I would like to include, but at this point, the deck functions rather well and its a combination of cards I:
- Want to play because I can't play them in any other deck I own
- Are good synnergistcally with Drafna's game/battle plan.
So I need help figuring out what to replace
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Artifact Creature ā Construct
Trample
When you cast this spell and whenever Cityscape Leveler attacks, destroy up to one target nonland permanent. Its controller creates a tapped Powerstone token.
Unearth 
8/8
rotund forge
Maybe one of the lattice effects?
nocturne imp
what feels more artifact to you guys? [[megatron, tyrant]] fling, or [[mishra, eminent one]] "fast and furious" vehicles
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Legendary Artifact Creature ā Robot
More Than Meets the Eye (You may cast this card converted for .)
Your opponents can't cast spells during combat.
At the beginning of your postcombat main phase, you may convert Megatron. If you do, add for each 1 life your opponents have lost this turn.
7/5
Megatron, Destructive Force
Legendary Artifact ā Vehicle
Living metal (As long as it's your turn, this Vehicle is also a creature.)
Whenever Megatron attacks, you may sacrifice another artifact. When you do, Megatron deals damage equal to the sacrificed artifact's mana value to target creature. If excess damage would be dealt to that creature this way, instead that damage is dealt to that creature's controller and you convert Megatron.
4/5
reef yacht
what feels more artifact to you guys? [[megatron, tyrant]] fling, or [[mishra, e...
To be honest, megatron. As an Artifact Player, I found it hard to get behind Mishra
nocturne imp
To be honest, megatron. As an Artifact Player, I found it hard to get behind Mis...
what was the reason?
reef yacht
For me, mishra is too slow, and requires you to set up a board that heavily depends on Mishra. Donāt get me wrong, you can make it work and Iāve seen it, but as far as mishra abilities are, there arenāt that many. Now, for Megatron, your commander is too expensive? Well, thereās other options out there and youāre able to work around it if youāre stuck without nothing to do. Yeah, tou want fo be throwing things at people, but you can also use [[Bosh Iron Golem]] or just your old regular [[Fling]]. All else fails, set up a combo and you donāt have to depend on Megatron so much.
Idk, i just had a bad time making Mishra work.
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Legendary Artifact Creature ā Golem
Trample
, Sacrifice an artifact: Bosh, Iron Golem deals damage equal to the sacrificed artifact's mana value to any target.
As Glissa searches for the truth about Memnarch, Bosh searches to unearth the secrets of his past.
6/7
reef yacht
I ended up using [[Kasla]] for vehicles tbh
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Legendary Creature ā Angel Ally
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
Flying, vigilance, haste
Whenever you cast another spell that has convoke, scry 2, then draw a card.
5/4
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Legendary Creature ā Elf Artificer
Tap an untapped nontoken artifact you control: Add .
Tap two untapped nontoken artifacts you control: Exile the top card of your library. You may play it this turn.
"Why fear artifice? Is it not also of this world?"
3/3
reef yacht
Has anyone had luck making Meria not stax central?
gray nest
you could do a solid equipment list if you felt that way inclined
reef yacht
Equipment is also expensive AF. I dunno. I just donāt like stax. My mind actually goes to Artifact Value
And big beaters
reef yacht
Maybe one of the lattice effects?
Added Cityscape Leveler to Drafna and I don't really enjoy it in the deck.
reef yacht
I can't bank on it by duplicating it. Yeah I will have two big face smackers but I won't get two removal triggers.
most of the jank stuff I have in the deck (Coveted Jewel, Powerstone Shard, Soul-Guide Lantern, etc) I can exploit by copying them. Cityscape Leveler is nice as a beater but not much else.
reef yacht
Heyo
I wouldn't use Danitha myself and I would add [[Inviolability]] and [[Entangler]] myself to the deck. Also more card draw would be nice.
reef yacht
can also add [[Mask of Law and Grace]]
My experience is mostly on Selesnya aura-tron
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wheat glen
I wouldn't use Danitha myself and I would add [[Inviolability]] and [[Entangler]...
Oh, what's bad about Danitha?
reef yacht
personally I never get any of the cards in the graveyard so it just sits on my hand doing nothing. But in general, you do need card draw.
wheat glen
I see
reef yacht
I tend to remove players by the time it becomes relevant
but yeah. those auras are some of my personal favorites
this is the voltron deck I have. and I hope it helps
reef yacht
The Reality Chip is also weird to see, but in my personal experience, only you will know what works or not. I have realized that when you play your deck, if you keep drawing a card and not playing it, it needs to be cut because it is not helping you advance your game plan.
The Auras I suggested are because i feel like you would benefit from having protection from several different sources. Also [[Dryad's Favor]] would be a nice addition with [[Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth]]
wheat glen
The Reality Chip is also weird to see, but in my personal experience, only you w...
Reality cheap filter lands
On the top
reef yacht
Reality cheap filter lands
I figured it was the reason why you had it there. Same reason why I have it on my Elsha of the Infinite deck
reef yacht
Thats why you use YAviyama, cradle of growth. It becomes to situational to By Force
it also somewhat fixes your mana a bit.
reef yacht
Im just talking about Danitha that lets you cast auras/equipments from graveyard.
but thats just my opinion
wheat glen
Oh that one
reef yacht
you can add [[Knickknack ouphe]]
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reef yacht
Lightpaws is weird to run personally
wheat glen
I see, I take notes
reef yacht
unless you focus on it, for me it feels like a waste.
wheat glen
Aight, any enchantements you think I'm missing or should cut
Besides the ones you mentioned
And is Ellivere of the Wild Court weird here?
reef yacht
no. But in all honesty, If I was to actually cut cards, Danitha is a "EH, it could help" because I don't know how your playgroup works and it could help you in the long run.
But Light-Paws and Ardenn would be instant cuts for me.
because I asume you will be equiping your commander with the auras/equipments right?
wheat glen
because I asume you will be equiping your commander with the auras/equipments ri...
Indeed, and copy them
Thoughts about Tanglespan Lookout?
reef yacht
Tbf, games are long in my playgroup
then keep it indeed. my games tend to be over quicker so she's kind of useless for my tron deck
reef yacht
And is Ellivere of the Wild Court weird here?
this seems ok.
wheat glen
Maybe I've too many creatures that can draw
5 creatures does basically the same thing
reef yacht
card draw is always good.
wheat glen
Right
reef yacht
unless it becomes too much. only you can tell. im just spitballing
wheat glen
Any equipements/aura you think I should cut?
reef yacht
Sword of Light and Shadow can backfire on you FWI
wheat glen
Oh? It can???
reef yacht
since you wouldn't be able to target your creature with white spells. unsure if attach gets aroud it
reef yacht
i would check ruling on that
wheat glen
Fair!
reef yacht
just keep that in mind.
wheat glen
Sigil of the Empty Throne good idea?
reef yacht
Another good Aura (IMHO) is [[Ancestral Mask]]
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reef yacht
Sigil of the Empty Throne good idea?
I run it myself so its good.
wheat glen
Oh, forgot about that one
reef yacht
im only going to suggest the good auras that will make your commander a problem/protect it.
Also Karmic Justice is weird and useless for me but if it works for you, then keep it
wheat glen
Rancor weak?
wheat glen
Also Karmic Justice is weird and useless for me but if it works for you, then ke...
I tried and yea, it's not great
reef yacht
then cut it for something better
reef yacht
the good part of it is the ward
wheat glen
Lion Sash seems to be just good stuff no?
reef yacht
is good to have a bit of redundancy.
reef yacht
Lion Sash seems to be just good stuff no?
depends on your playgroup. Do you have a lot of graveyard recuring players?
wheat glen
Mmmh, just one player but in fact, not much
reef yacht
[[Aqueous Form]] only suggesting it for the scry ability only.
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wheat glen
I've this
Last time to told me to cut Armadillo Cloak, no? You told me it's not great
reef yacht
was that me? I don't remember
wheat glen
Yes
reef yacht
I am sorry.
reef yacht
ok
wheat glen
reef yacht
cuz i was going to say. that would be hypocritical of me. I run it.
My recommendation is to always build a deck that works but that doesn;t end up being dead draws in your playgroup.
karmic guide is good but if its a dead draw, then its useless for you.
reef yacht
also Armadillo Cloak stacks with Lifelink
reef yacht
up to you. Do you want to win the game faster or last longer?
reef yacht
then yea. add it. (Then again Lifelink plus Armadillo Cloak you would gain twice whatever damage you deal)
wheat glen
Aight
reef yacht
I DO recommend you add [[Entangler]] because most likely commander will be the only creature you'd have on board and it will help you against token decks
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reef yacht
also, if you want to remove Winged Boots for another aura, [[Combat Research]] is a neat alternative. VOltron commanders will make you the target.
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Enchantment ā Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature has "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, draw a card."
As long as enchanted creature is legendary, it gets +1/+1 and has ward . (Whenever enchanted creature becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays .)
reef yacht
:š:
reef yacht
lol yeah. im just making suggestions. you don't need to add them to the main deck š
wheat glen
Oh, I didn't add everything
Also I don't just add because you told me
I like the cards
reef yacht
okay just making sure.
wheat glen
I love the idea of Dryad's Favor + Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth
Entangler is wonderful, I had it in my mind but wasn't sure
reef yacht
I mean you can cut the sword.
wheat glen
Ancestral Mask is defo something I considered, it's good
I did
Just refresh the page
reef yacht
also [[Inviolability]] for preventing deathtouch damage or Blas Act damage
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wheat glen
Mask of Law and Grace is relevant because my group often play those colors
wheat glen
also [[Inviolability]] for preventing deathtouch damage or Blas Act damage
Not a big thing in my group, so I think it's fine
I don't need that one
reef yacht
yeah. One of my favorite "I will become a problem now" cards is [[Pollenrbight Wings]]
wheat glen
Dunno what to think about Timber Paladin but I was told it's very good
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wheat glen
https://scryfall.com/card/pca/103/pollenbright-wings
Looks fun, tho it's costy to cast
reef yacht
Dunno what to think about Timber Paladin but I was told it's very good
Ivy can make copies. Never used it myself.
reef yacht
Looks fun, tho it's costy to cast
By then you either ramped to high heaven, or the game took too long and now you need extra blockers
reef yacht
Unwind is probably useless there
I would swap it for counterspell or add more spot removal
wheat glen
I feel like, I lack removals
reef yacht
Also at least one good Boardwipe would be neat. Also depends on what your playgroup plays usually and what the deck lacks in games, which I won't know that
wheat glen
Bant Charm seems underwhelming
wheat glen
Also at least one good Boardwipe would be neat. Also depends on what your playgr...
I've 3 boardwipe
reef yacht
replace it with something like either Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Winds of Abandon (Boardwipe or spot removal)
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reef yacht
its not good for the total gains you're getting.
wheat glen
I see
reef yacht
also, [[Blanchwood Armor]] is another good to add with the combo for Dryad's Favor + Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth
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wheat glen
Yup, tho I'm not guaranteed to hit Yavi
wheat glen
Dryad's Favor is cool because 2 of the friends I often play against play forest
So even without Yavi it's good
reef yacht
but even if you have 5 forests, thats +5/+5 right out of the bat
wheat glen
But Blanchwood is too inconsistent
wheat glen
I mean, I already have All That Glitters, Ancestral Mask, Ethereal Armor and Sage's Reverie
That all mega boost
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wheat glen
If I rmb that card cost a bit
reef yacht
yeah, its a bit pricey
reef yacht
[[Shielding Plax]] feels kind of a waste IMO
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Enchantment ā Aura
(
can be paid with either or .)
Enchant creature
When Shielding Plax enters the battlefield, draw a card.
Enchanted creature can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control.
wheat glen
https://scryfall.com/card/afc/192/shielding-plax
Oh?
reef yacht
you can just remove it for something else but thats just me
wheat glen
Was reco on EDHREC that's why
reef yacht
up to you. You have copy enchantments on your list, so if you can get to copy it like 3-5 times consistently, then go for it
wheat glen
Well, last game I could copy easily 2 or 3 times
Each aura
I didn't have that card but I had Angelic Gift
And could draw extra cards every single turn
reef yacht
yeah if it works, then ok.
Angelic Gift for me doesn't do it (remember, its for my tastes, I personally want the most value for what I play in auras)
so I recommend for you to look at [[Asha's Favor]]
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reef yacht
as I said, depends on you and how the deck works for you.
wheat glen
mmmh
wheat glen
Yea
reef yacht
just keep it in the back pocket I guess
wheat glen
I mean, my deck specifically easily copy aura
reef yacht
yeah. Also good removal I like is [[Lignify]] and [[Song of the Dryads]] which you can copy
reef yacht
also [[Darksteel Mutation]] and [[Probation]]
wheat glen
[[Giant Inheritance]] looks good, no?
hollow latchBOT
reef yacht
yeah. I also made note of it for my Sythis deck.
If you need proection, consider [[Flickerform]]
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Enchantment ā Aura
Enchant creature
: Exile enchanted creature and all Auras attached to it. At the beginning of the next end step, return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control. If you do, return the other cards exiled this way to the battlefield under their owners' control attached to that creature.
wheat glen
What I noticed with my list is that, I've indeed Hexproof and Robe of Stars to protect my board but
Even if I get boardwipe, I don't really care
Unfinished Business, Retether and Mantle of the Ancients fix all
This is one of the first impression I had with my deck, is that I'm not afraid of being wiped
I simply comeback easily
reef yacht
okay. if that works for you, then thats fine. just offering my limited experience with voltron aura commanders
reef yacht
cools
but yeah, the enchantment removals are because you may be able to copy it and nothing is worse than casting Frogify and copying it times
so this is my Sythis deck.
hope it helps tbh
wheat glen
I looked at it!
I picked some ideas
But yea copy "removals" is a good thing
I might add Emprisoned in the moon
reef yacht
I knew I was forgetting one. Is one, if not my favorite. XD
wheat glen
I play it in my Alela lol
reef yacht
Like I said, My thing is keyword soup. I hope it doesn't mess your deck too much
reef yacht
new additions can be a bit tricky.
reef yacht
I listen, take in count and make my choices
true true
wheat glen
I removed Starfield of Nyx and Court of Grace from my Alela list
And added Misleading Signpost and Dawn of a New Age
Tho I'll probably Dawn of a New Age somewhere else, in a deck without blue
reef yacht
never used it myself so I can't speak for Dawn of New Age
wheat glen
In blue decks you don't need it at all
reef yacht
Dawn NA works best as a Lord
wheat glen
Tocasia's Welcome is better
I've it
reef yacht
Welcoming Vamp?
wheat glen
From what I understood Dawn of a New Age is good in non blue decks
wheat glen
Welcoming Vamp?
nope
wheat glen
I mean...
Not like I really need Daw of a new age anyway
It's because it was 2 mana
easy trigger
reef yacht
lol
the new faerie deck brough with it a card that copies your faerie spells and wizard? spells. (Only played it once)
wheat glen
I'll replace it by The One Ring
wheat glen
the new faerie deck brough with it a card that copies your faerie spells and wiz...
Idk, I don't have the precon
reef yacht
just saying. its a CMC 5 card though. 4U
wheat glen
What is CMC 5
reef yacht
[[Archmage of Echoes]]
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Creature ā Faerie Wizard
Flying, ward
Whenever you cast a Faerie or Wizard permanent spell, copy it. (The copy becomes a token.)
"The High Fae are capable of magics that would make even the great Gadwick himself seem little more than a clumsy apprentice." āChulane, Teller of Tales
4/4
wheat glen
Oh that one
reef yacht
yup
wheat glen
It's cool but totally whatever in my deck
I don't have many faeries
I've 8 faeries
Not the theme of the deck
reef yacht
oh yeah. just came to mind is all so I thought id mention it
reef yacht
if you can keep it from killing you, yes
I do like your alela deck. I could never make a list work
wheat glen
What do you like about it? And why you could never make a list work?
reef yacht
idk. My brain didn;t click with the way alela works.
and just looking at it is pleasing to me is all I can say. I am unable to provide better feedback unless i personally play against it.
reef yacht
oh meant it as in what I liked but yeha'
wheat glen
It's fair
Like, yes it's strong but it's not cedh and not super stax
Like most alela
or super control
reef yacht
yeah
you just gave me an idea. I have a breya deck bordering cEDH, and I will probably break it down to make cEDH alela.
wheat glen
It works lol
reef yacht
it was my first deck
reef yacht
The only issue is that the mana base cost a lot
lol just look at mine XD
wheat glen
Yea lol, your mana base is insane
wheat glen
My first deck is Alela
reef yacht
WRONG EMOJI SORRY
wheat glen
Lol
reef yacht
yeah. Just considering now the swaps I can make to i
to make her cEDH (I would rather not break breya apart)
molten crystal
Hey everyone! I'm looking into building a new budget deck, which is something I haven't really tinkered with yet. I want to keep it to around $50 and I'd like to use a 
commander. [[Elas il-kor, Sadistic Pilgrim]] definitely interests me.
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queen ivy
Could always make it a [[Lurrus]] companion deck haha
hollow latchBOT
Legendary Creature ā Cat Nightmare
Companion ā Each permanent card in your starting deck has mana value 2 or less. (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for as a sorcery.)
Lifelink
Once during each of your turns, you may cast a permanent spell with mana value 2 or less from your graveyard.
3/2
molten crystal
I read that card and was very confused by it haha
I've not played a partner commander either
queen ivy
Theyāre less like partner and more like āa commander you can get and cast only onceā
rotund forge
Hey everyone! I'm looking into building a new budget deck, which is something I ...
What sort of thing are you looking to do with it other than just for the color identity?
molten crystal
I haven't dabbled in these colors much yet, so I want to get a bit more familiar with them. It seems like making tokens should be decently accomplishable with
And then I suppose you board wipe and deal a ton of damage to everyone?
molten crystal
Theyāre less like partner and more like āa commander you can get and cast only o...
Oh that sure does say companion and not partner. My b
queen ivy
Regardless of what you do, I recommend my boi [[Reassembling Skeleton]] for Elas
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Creature ā Skeleton Warrior
: Return Reassembling Skeleton from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
"They may show up with the wrong thigh bone or mandible, but they always show up." āZul Ashur, lich lord
1/1
queen ivy
But yea, tokens that you can board wipe is a pretty fun way to do it
Thereās lots of good ways to make lots of bodies
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queen ivy
[[Denethor, ruling steward]]
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Legendary Creature ā Human Noble
At the beginning of your end step, if a creature died under your control this turn, create a 1/1 white Human Soldier creature token.
, Sacrifice another creature: Each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
"Much must be risked in war."
2/4
queen ivy
[[Thallise Rev]] is really good in general for tokens
hollow latchBOT
queen ivy
[[Thalisse]]
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molten crystal
I saw that one when looking for a commander and that definitely caught my eye!
queen ivy
Every orzhov inclusive token deck should run her
queen ivy
Yes
= Azorius
= Orzhov
= Boros
= Selesnya
= Dimir
= Izzet
= Simic
= Rakdos
= Golgari
= Gruul
trim rock
The Guilds of Ravnica colors.
queen ivy
Ye
molten crystal
Thanks!
rotund forge
Elas Il-Kor has a combo I use in the deck I have her in, but I don't know if you want those.
molten crystal
My group mostly plays precons rn, but we're toying with making decks on a $50 budget and bringing those together
We're casual for sure. So I don't want to try to build anything overtly oppressive
molten crystal
Is it OK to post moxfield links here? Or is this an archideckt house?
manic bear
people use what they want to use
still hemlock
Is it OK to post moxfield links here? Or is this an archideckt house?
Any deckbuilding site is kosher
Automod will 100% flag a plaintext decklist though lmao
molten crystal
molten crystal
was finally able to get some time to put a list together! trying to keep it budget friendly, but suggestions are welcome!
reef yacht
Just looking for feedback on this. I made it mostly from the carcass of Breya's deck
rotund forge
Just looking for feedback on this. I made it mostly from the carcass of Breya's ...
URza in addition to Drafna?
reef yacht
URza in addition to Drafna?
I didn;t know what else to do with the surplus and I was not even having fun playing breya anymore. so š
rotund forge
I mean, I get that feeling
reef yacht
to say it was hard tearing apart breya after so many years would be an understatement. I will be trying out this deck today, but I wanted some feedback. Drafna and Urza are two different beasts.
(I am missing an Unctus)
rotund forge
I keep looking at Skystrike Officer. I both like it but I want to recommend [[Retrofitter Foundry]] and want to have a suggestion in hand for a cut.
hollow latchBOT
Artifact
: Untap Retrofitter Foundry.
, : Create a 1/1 colorless Servo artifact creature token.
, , Sacrifice a Servo: Create a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying.
, Sacrifice a Thopter: Create a 4/4 colorless Construct artifact creature token.
reef yacht
IDK if I have one and if I do, is just laying about somewhere in one of my other decks.
reef yacht
I keep looking at Skystrike Officer. I both like it but I want to recommend [[Re...
I'll probably move him later to UW Artifact Creatures [[Urza Kroog]]
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Legendary Creature ā Human Artificer
Artifact creatures you control get +2/+2.
: Create a token that's a copy of target artifact you control, except it's a 1/1 Soldier creature in addition to its other types.
The prince consort was happy to let Yotia's coffers fund his extravagant research.
2/3
rotund forge
I can see that. I've been wanting to try to build that Urza but did Hylda instead.
reef yacht
Hylda seems like a fun commander to try with all the tap cards that have been printed over the years.
rare parcel
Whatās the best green card draw and black card draw?
reef yacht
Black would be Necropotence? Green? Theres a lot so it depends on what youāre playing but I would say The Great Henge & Guardian Project
reef yacht
Whatās the best green card draw and black card draw?
Hope that helps. Also, ive not used Necropotence.
queen ivy
Whatās the best green card draw and black card draw?
Sylvan Library
As a fun fact, Sylvan library + [[Abundance]] is a combo that lets you draw three cards with no downside
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queen ivy
Black card draw has a lot of different flavors, depends on what you want with ābestā
Arguably, [[Ad Nauseam]] is the best card draw because for 5 mana it can draw like 30-40 cards
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reef yacht
I forgot that card exists.
gray nest
There's a strong argument for [[braids, arisen]] or [[grim haruspex]] being the best mono black card draw
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Creature ā Human Wizard
Morph (You may cast this card face down as a 2/2 creature for . Turn it face up any time for its morph cost.)
Whenever another nontoken creature you control dies, draw a card.
"We all want to know what's going on in someone else's head. I simply open it up and look."
3/2
royal pewter
Necropotence can be used in a large burst for 20+ cards, or to keep refilling your hand if your deck isnāt trying to win off a large burst. For creature-based card draw, I recommend Vilis, Broker of Blood.
Ad Nauseam wants a lower average cmc and has an expectation that youāll win shortly after or die.
Braids and Grim Haruspex want expendable fodder in the deck. Theyāre premium options in a certain kind of deck, rather than a color per se.
reef yacht
Yeah. mono-black card draw that is universally good would only Phyrexian Arena and Black Market Connections.
graceful knot
Braids so gooooood.
tardy prawn
Braids is crazy
queen ivy
Braids is pretty darn good, yeh.
young patrol
Tentatively exploring not really having wincons or removal and just being easy to kill and using my turns doing fun silly things until someone else ends the game. Already very close to that with my Nashi list.
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tardy prawn
What is there to explain?
wheat walrus
Looking to make my first commander deck. I have a lot of white phyrexian cards from mom. So I thought bout a deck with elesh norn as commander. I know it wouldn't be great but might be fun. Any opinions?
This what I have as a base atm
wheat walrus
https://edhrec.com/deckpreview/yQNtnGj9E3sWidHWYMbI3Q
I was talking this one
tardy prawn
Oh that one slaps
wheat walrus
I just think it might could be a cheap fun first deck
tardy prawn
I have a build of it as phyrexian tribal for a friend
wheat walrus
I have a build of it as phyrexian tribal for a friend
Is it fun?
tardy prawn
Yeah
wheat glen
Mono white is pretty bad tho for low power
tardy prawn
He loves it, doesn't tend to ruin games even though it's strong
my build is pricey but the commander should work on any budget
wheat walrus
Thanks ill look into getting it built
wheat walrus
Mono white can get pricy pretty fast
Yea I'm worried it will get too expensive for me
wheat glen
I honestly wouldn't advice building a mono white deck if you want to go on budget
Unless you wanna play something that'll get shit on pretty often
wheat glen
What can get pricy in white is the ramp and finisher
tardy prawn
This list is 300, but there's a lot of easy cuts
wheat walrus
Ouch
wheat walrus
Ok thanks for the help!
wheat glen
Looking to make my first commander deck. I have a lot of white phyrexian cards f...
So far, imo the 2 colors are already cheaper to build
If you really want budget you can look for green
Decks with green can be pretty cheap to build
terse dust
That's a pretty nice start !
royal pewter
What are people's thoughts on a Thrasios deck? Just thrasios, not optimized, but I want to get infinite mana fast
queen ivy
What are people's thoughts on a Thrasios deck? Just thrasios, not optimized, but...
I mean if youāre getting infinite mana it doesnāt matter what deck youāre building people arenāt gonna like it in anything other than high power or cedh
royal pewter
Thats fair
I just don't want to have itbe a cEDH Deck
which it cant if I'm not running it with a partner
queen ivy
I mean, it can, just not a high tier one
royal pewter
What are people's thoughts on a Thrasios deck? Just thrasios, not optimized, but...
Thrasios packs a lot less oomph if the rest of your deck has a higher cmc, and results in turns spent activating Thrasios or playing other cards.
As a standalone card, [[Gretchen Titchwillow]] gets more mileage off the activated ability. Thrasios paired with Kydele is something Iāve seen occasionally.
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Legendary Creature ā Halfling Druid
: Draw a card. You may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield.
"Plant what you wish to see grow. Listen for the stories you want to hear told."
0/4
reef yacht
Sooo anyone got feedback to make it better? It plays like a baby deer attempting to walk.
queen ivy
Sooo anyone got feedback to make it better? It plays like a baby deer attempting...
[[Bastion Protector]] is just kinda fine here.
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reef yacht
[[Bastion Protector]] is just kinda fine here.
Trostani tends to get axed a lot.
queen ivy
Is it just too slow of a deck?
You might try adding some big token cards to play into the populate more
Like [[rampaging Baloths]]
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queen ivy
Then thereās also good anthems like [[thunder foot baloth]]
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queen ivy
And [[Loyal Guardian]]
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reef yacht
I can do thunderfoot. Usually avoid many landfall strategies unless I lean into landfall
queen ivy
Rampaging makes 4/4s with trample which works great with populate
Also.. you do have scute swarm in the deck
reef yacht
Usually i tend to have card draw issues. I havenāt played the deck much but it tends to be derpy to pilot. Different from my other token decks
queen ivy
I see
reef yacht
Also.. you do have scute swarm in the deck
Yeah. Been thinking on cutting it. (And scute swarm makes itself a problem quick)
queen ivy
People tend to underrate rampaging baloths in the light of scute swarm nowadays
reef yacht
I like baloths, but I just like to be able to abuse abilities as well. (Hence why i play artifact decks so much)
queen ivy
Well, for one thing, youāve only got 7 sources of card draw and most of them are either one offs or donāt synergize with the deck
[[Welcoming Vampire]] [[tocasiaās welcome]] will do wonders
reef yacht
[[Welcoming Vampire]] [[tocasiaās welcome]] will do wonders
Ueah, those are on my eternal to buy list. I have several decks that need them
queen ivy
Also [[Glimmer Lens]], [[Staff of the Storyteller]], [[Ohran Frostfang]] are great
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Artifact ā Equipment
For Mirrodin! (When this Equipment enters the battlefield, create a 2/2 red Rebel creature token, then attach this to it.)
Whenever equipped creature and at least one other creature attack, draw a card.
Equip
Artifact
When Staff of the Storyteller enters the battlefield, create a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying.
Whenever you create one or more creature tokens, put a story counter on Staff of the Storyteller.
, , Remove a story counter from Staff of the Storyteller: Draw a card.
queen ivy
I would bump the draw density up to 12-15
reef yacht
FML. Those are cards I have spread out. I also want to get a Loran of the Third Path for this deck.
queen ivy
Loran smooths out decks so well
reef yacht
Yeah. I have three copies already butā¦ as I said, spread out across several decks
queen ivy
Mind making your own thread or post in your mega thread if you have one? Donāt want to flood this chat too much
reef yacht
Usually token decks donāt give me issues, just this one. And its fine. Just wanted general feedback for the time being.
Made post
royal pewter
Thrasios packs a lot less oomph if the rest of your deck has a higher cmc, and r...
My goal would be trying to get infinite mana as soon as possible
So I would basically never be using mana to activate thrasios unless I've already gone infinte
tardy pebble
https://archidekt.com/decks/5709414
I want to cut one card to replace with [[Akroma's Will]]
And potentially a second one to put [[Lethal Scheme]]
Any suggestions? Don't know what to cut
hollow latchBOT
Instant
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. Each creature that convoked Lethal Scheme connives. (Draw a card, then discard a card. If you discarded a nonland card, put a +1/+1 counter on that creature.)
stable gate
has anyone tried to build [[wild pair]] secret commander with dash effects?
hollow latchBOT
stable gate
it seems strong to tutor every turn
royal sail
The Reality Chip is also weird to see, but in my personal experience, only you w...
i think it depends on how reactive the card is, if itās something like mass recursion or protection i think itās usually fine as a held card in hand for full games because if youāre not using it youāre probably either winning fine without it or losing badly enough that itās not hurting you
like i won a game where i had [[deflecting palm]] in my opener against 3 opponents trying to win with damage and never cast it. doesnāt mean it was it dead because it could be held up if i needed extra insurance and it never hurt because i was fine without it
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reef yacht
i think it depends on how reactive the card is, if itās something like mass recu...
I just tend to play a lot of artifact combo decks and usually if something keeps popping up in my hand and I choose not to cast it (mainly cmc) i tend to cut it
opal roost
I need to make 2 cuts from this Rocco deck. The goal is to cascade into Worldfire with [[Sibylline Soothsayer]].
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reef yacht
Got a Jeweled Lotus for Urza and I need help on what to cut.
queen ivy
Got a Jeweled Lotus for Urza and I need help on what to cut.
https://www.moxfie...
Skystrike officer doesnāt seem to do anything for your deck
young patrol
I am thinking about cutting Boros Charm for Swerve in my attacky I'm the threat deck as a second copy of Bolt Bend
reef yacht
As someone who won thanks to Boros Charm, I would advise against it
young patrol
Oh it's definitely very good, but I have a two counterspells and two creatures that already protect from board wipes and am feeling like I want more ways to protect my all-in turns from disruption which tends to be spot removal like swords and path. I've also just been generally liking how Bolt Bend has played in protecting my big threat while answering another. It's kind of a go tall deck that just sometimes ends up going wide and Boros Charm doesn't always actually protect from boardwipes people play. It's not a clear decision. I might just make the swap to see how it feels.
reef yacht
Been having issues with my angel deck where I always get mana flodded and not draw more angels. Also due to this Deep Gnome Terramancer ends up being useless in the deck.
Which is weird in mono-white
Just need someone to give it a look and give me some feedback.
trim rock
Well if you need more Mono White draw engines, try [[Four Knocks]]
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reef yacht
Well if you need more Mono White draw engines, try [[Four Knocks]]
Thanks. Angel deck works fine. Just tend to get too many lands and is weird for thst to happen in white
tribal jetty
Okay so I did a slight rehaul of this deck adding more synergistic pieces with tokens and treasures and removing generic cards and some removal spells, because I'm intentionally making this deck less powerful overall and more focused on the things I want to do with it. Any and all recommendations are welcome, thanks.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/kHtRKImI2ESHJSZaR7chwQ
young patrol
Just need someone to give it a look and give me some feedback.
https://www.moxf...
I would HIGHLY recommend [[Thespian's Stage]] for white and white-X decks. It can copy Emeria or a plains to flex with the board state of those plans, but it also copies your own Lotus Fields for big ramp.
hollow latchBOT
Land
: Add .
, : Thespian's Stage becomes a copy of target land, except it has this ability.
Amid rumors of war, the third act of The Absolution of the Guildpact was quickly rewritten as a tragedy.
trim rock
Will check it tomorrow!
rotund forge
Been having issues with my angel deck where I always get mana flodded and not dr...
Have you looked at [[Collector's Vault]] [[Peace of Memory]] or [[Ceremonial Knife]]
hollow latchBOT
Artifact
, : Draw a card, then discard a card. Create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any color.")
Beluna makes a habit of "liberating" valuables from the world below, from priceless artifacts to historic buildings.
Artifact ā Equipment
Equipped creature gets +1/+0 and has "Whenever this creature deals combat damage, create a Blood token." (It's an artifact with ", , Discard a card, Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.")
Equip (: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
rotund forge
[[Peace of Mind]]
hollow latchBOT
Enchantment
, Discard a card: You gain 3 life.
Not all minds touched by the Eldrazi turn to raging psychosis. Some simply withdraw from this world into memories of a better one.
rotund forge
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/jNjWi0Em3UWtnTwBgLqG1A
I like it but I almost want to suggest [[Reveillark]]
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Creature ā Elemental
Flying
When Reveillark leaves the battlefield, return up to two target creature cards with power 2 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
Evoke (You may cast this spell for its evoke cost. If you do, it's sacrificed when it enters the battlefield.)
4/3
trim rock
@wheat hill [[Retribution of the Ancients]]
hollow latchBOT
Enchantment
, Remove X +1/+1 counters from among creatures you control: Target creature gets -X/-X until end of turn.
Abzan ancestors died to protect their Houses, and they protect them still.
trim rock
It'll let you use Amalia's ability again and also potentially get rid of a big threat that's hard to get rid of normally.
[[Nykthos Paragon]] could also be helpful since you are going more of a pure Lifegain route.
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queen ivy
[[Riot Control]]
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reef yacht
[[Riot Control]]
Thanks for this idea
queen ivy
I was recommending it as a cut but sure lol
terse dust
riot control was already in th chopping block. But I need more cuts š
reef yacht
I was recommending it as a cut but sure lol
Im always looking for more shenanigan ideas for some of my decks. Already known as the āSettle the Wreckageā guy
vivid pulsar
Has anyone here tried building Elenda and Azor? How did it go for you?
rotund forge
I worked at it for a bit but never got a functional draft
But that was due to dying to scope creep
reef yacht
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Ci7xJc7q20mXbK15kZu5lw
I would like help streamlining this. I am not used to this style of play and I feel like I'm doing something wrong.
reef yacht
it used to be teysa karlov but works better with bartolome and i run out of card draw or bodies
rather quickly or not have enough sack payoffs
i think what I want to do is do sack stuff and recur things more often than it does now.
rotund forge
I wonder if [[Prowling Geistcatcher]] would work.
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rotund forge
Or [[Teysa, Orzhov Scion]]
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rotund forge
To help with the bodies
reef yacht
i considered it too. I also considered using my [[Coffin Queen]] which would help me a bit
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Creature ā Zombie Wizard
You may choose not to untap Coffin Queen during your untap step.
, : Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. When Coffin Queen becomes untapped or you lose control of Coffin Queen, exile that creature.
1/1
reef yacht
also get [[tormod the desecrator]]
hollow latchBOT
rotund forge
If you had a token doubler [[Mite Overseer]] would work.
hollow latchBOT
Creature ā Phyrexian Soldier
First strike
As long as it's your turn, creature tokens you control get +1/+0 and have first strike.
: Create a 1/1 colorless Phyrexian Mite artifact creature token with toxic 1 and "This creature can't block." (Players dealt combat damage by it also get a poison counter. can be paid with either or 2 life.)
4/2
rotund forge
I'm annoyed at how much stuff gets gummed up at 4
reef yacht
yeah.
rotund forge
Teysa and Coffin Queen being 3 seems meaningful
reef yacht
indeed.
good thing about queen is that it only exiles if queen stops being on my board
or she untaps while I have control of it
reef yacht
I wonder if [[Prowling Geistcatcher]] would work.
i considered this but it can backfire hard
rotund forge
If it gets exiled
You hopefully could sacrifice it in response to the spell. But yeah.
Oh [[Elenda's Heirophant]]
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reef yacht
i need to get that tbhj for several decks. is on my to buy list
young patrol
It's been a hot second since I've built for sunforger. Is there anything better than [[Mistveil Plains]] yet?
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Land ā Plains
(: Add .)
Mistveil Plains enters the battlefield tapped.
, : Put target card from your graveyard on the bottom of your library. Activate only if you control two or more white permanents.
young patrol
I was really hoping there would be an instant or an equipment that could selectively tuck my graveyard.
trim rock
I think there certainly should be an instant or sorcery at least.
young patrol
unfortunately the only instant is in blue
trim rock
Tragic.
hollow latchBOT
Artifact
: Put the top card of your graveyard on the bottom of your library.
"This ceaseless device has helped uncover marvels unreachable by mere flesh." āArcum Dagsson, Soldevi machinist
rotund forge
[[Ardent Dustspeaker]] will do it for instants/sorceries on attack
hollow latchBOT
rotund forge
[[Epitaph Golem]] will do any card
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Artifact Creature ā Golem
: Put target card from your graveyard on the bottom of your library.
Many names and many memories bound together in grim purpose.
3/5
reef yacht
[[Phyrexian Archivist]]
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Artifact Creature ā Phyrexian Construct
Reach
, : Put target card from a graveyard on the bottom of its owner's library.
Silence quickly went from an annoying library rule to an imperative for survival.
4/5
rotund forge
Yep. To clarify, the ones I suggested either were free or can do it multiple times a turn. [[Tel-Jilad Stylus]] also works
hollow latchBOT
Artifact
: Put target permanent you own on the bottom of your library.
Etched on Tel-Jilad's trunk is an entire history of Mirrodināexcept for an expanse near the ground scrubbed smooth by an unknown hand.
rotund forge
Wait just saw it's permanents
I don't have it in decks, it just kept being suggested for the decks I run that function along similar lines of needing to get cards back into the library. I didn't like that it tapped
reef yacht
Looking got someone to give me quick feedback on probably adding Gandalf the White to this deck. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/S1fGu2dq0k-opZS85JKyvw
slate sluice
Looking got someone to give me quick feedback on probably adding Gandalf the Whi...
Personally I'd take out Keleth it's the only one of two cards that really care about counters in the entire deck, however rise and shine can be an instant win while Keleth needs build up
wild trail
I'm converting the Necron Warhammer to Silas Renn and Armix, has anyone done this? Any tips?
slate sluice
Yep. To clarify, the ones I suggested either were free or can do it multiple tim...
transplant theorist is repeatable but it's blue.
Reito Lantern is the best colourless artifact though for this. @young patrol
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Artifact Creature ā Construct
Defender
When Reito Sentinel enters the battlefield, target player mills three cards. (They put the top three cards of their library into their graveyard.)
: Put target card from a graveyard on the bottom of its owner's library.
3/3
slate sluice
Oh and a new one from Ixalan [[Hoverstone Pilgrim]] I actually prefer Reito Lantern because creature's tend to be too vulnerable.
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Artifact Creature ā Golem
Flying
Ward (Whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter it unless that player pays .)
: Put target card from a graveyard on the bottom of its owner's library.
They scour for secrets in places too distant or dangerous for humans to tread.
2/5
rotund forge
Yes, I was saying they did a call back to the card
The new one is 5 but at least has ward
shrewd kiln
https://archidekt.com/decks/4075303/save_room_for_us
I am 2 nonland cards away from finishing this, please help
it's a proliferate/charge counters deck
slate sluice
What I do when I'm stuck on which non land cards to remove is to remove 2 lands and goldfish, play a couple of turns and see which cards you wish were lands.
Those cards get removed and set aside. After i play a couple of real games I can ask myself which cards I didn't like seeing in those games and decide to replace them with the other two.
last wind
slate sluice
Do you guys have any general tips on balancing your decks? My playgroup tends to play decks where it's heavily focused on building their board state with little to no interaction and games tend to drag on quite a bit. However I either stomp with too much disruption or decks that are too quick, or lose because of not having enough interaction.
A good example is my yuriko deck. I've never won a game because I rely on sort of chance for the yuriko triggers which either wiff or deal heavy damage which gets me targeted. I know I could optimise it more but then it'll just stomp.
Another deck I have for example is Codie with [[Hyper Genesis]] and [[Inevitable betrayal]] which is highly optimised to always hit those two cards by casting a two cost spell and has aftermath sorceries that will trigger Codie to hit 3 cost spells that will get those two suspend cards back in my deck.
hollow latchBOT
Sorcery
Suspend 3ā
Starting with you, each player may put an artifact, creature, enchantment, or land card from their hand onto the battlefield. Repeat this process until no one puts a card onto the battlefield.
Sorcery
Suspend 3ā (Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay and exile it with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, cast it without paying its mana cost.)
Search target opponent's library for a creature card and put that card onto the battlefield under your control. Then that player shuffles.