No generic contracts populating

[subtle arrow]

While I have been receiving periodic contract requests from Ledger and the occasional urgent contract request I have not seen any generic contracts populate since I started fresh in v90.35

I have had the necessary tech and a landing pad built for some time now and they still have not shown up

[noble wind]

Same behaviour here. Urgent ones have also stopped, only have the green energy chain.

looks like once you finish the first quest moon mission it opens up additional options. You need a cargo truck and to deliver frames to complete it

[tight talon]

Glad I am not the only one with this problem. Here are my fies.

[flint silo]

thats rough, i dont have the cash for a truck or frames. Was looking to be completeing contracts for research and cash =/

bur yeah im in the same boat no generics. Urgent stopped as soon as I declined one, (for 500 nano tubes and 200 somethin frames, when I was still doing basic first 45 min stuff)

[subtle arrow]

Feel free to post a save here to help the devs figure this out!

[flint silo]

Oh yeah good call:

[flint silo]

Confirmed with a 2nd game this patch. That IF you Skip Ledger and say "NO" to his offer on contracts, you'll get All the Factions, and numerous Contracts available. However, I still had to research the "expand number of contracts" before they would show up.

[flint silo]

Bug Behavior Summary:

**Version: ** 0.90.63
**Issue: ** Availability of Faction Contracts on the "Available Tab" of Contracts.
Reproducing/Avoiding:

**Decision Point) **The first time Ledger pops up and offers the tutorial ACIL Contract.
a) Ignore Ledge
Outcome:
Contracts available after appropriate Social research (see Screen shot with Red arrow)
No Urgent Contracts begin
No "Mission" for Landing pad
No Alice/Ledge Dialouge
No restarting Ledges "chain" later

b) "Yes" to Ledge
Outcome:
NO AVALAIBLE Contracts (See second screen shot) despite Social Research
Tutorial Contracts begin from Ledger with Alice and Ledge Dialogue
"Mission" to build landing pad
Urgent Contracts begin
"Quest Chain" for Green or Corp Contracts.
If at any point you say "No" to Ledges offered quests - they stop with no way to resume.
If you say "No" to an Urgent - they stop with no way to resume.

[tall night]

I've finished 3 or 4 urgent contracts from Ledger and haven't seen any generic contracts either.

[subtle arrow]

Nice work putting this together! It appears like it's an either or situation with the script triggers huh? Either you lock yourself out of Ledgers contracts or you lock yourself out of the general contracts if I parsed this correctly?

[flint silo]

from what i was able to do today, yes.

[marble pollen]

Same on 0.90.36. Done all the starter ones - still no contracts

[trail tinsel]

I think this may be what I'm experiencing here: https://discord.com/channels/670425270615932951/1244351745057099796

[naive fjord]

Version 0.90.36
Fourth Ledger contract does not appear after completing third (silicon + smart concrete), had completed early.
No contracts are populated in available tab.

[ember isle]

I have had the same issue for three seperate saves. In all of them I accepted the Ledger contracts and normal generic contracts did not show up even after hours of play and follow the Ledger contracts. On my fourth new game I decided to refuse Ledger outright at the very first dialog box and after a few second all factions popped up with contracts fully populated. Saves available if still needed.

[dusty pagoda]

THIS BUG HAS BEEN FOUND AND A FIX IS IN THE WORKS. UNTIL THEN YOU NEED TO START A NEW GAME AND DO NOT MAKE ANY MANUAL SAVES UNTIL AFTER LEDGER GIVES YOU THE CONTRACTS. AUTOSAVES ARE OK JUST NO MANUAL SAVES/LOADS

[dusty pagoda]

Yes this is the first contract I saw from Ledger as well. Even if you can't fill the contract click the first option.

[marble pollen]

So it's series of like 3 contracts we have to finish before we can save, right?

Or is it enough to have gotten the first contract of silicon?

[dusty pagoda]

I'm not 100% sure of that, the only word we got from the devs was do not save before you get the contracts. I did make a save after I did some contracts and I still have a bunch of new ones.

[austere raven]

.... okay new save, then i'll click the top option.
for now i clicked bottom option - and i got a dialogue that if i change my mind, i can do a research and see the contracts in the control center ...... will keep my game now and progress to that to make sure

[dusty pagoda]

If he told you you can get them later you're probably OK. I was just going by the one that worked for me, because you can choose only once.

[marble pollen]

I know rejecting it worked for me yesterday - but the contracts we get are too hard to fulfill early game.

[austere raven]

great info, i'll do a new game with your instructions after i verified the top option gets you the market

[dusty pagoda]

Try doing some of the ones on the surface they might be easier. I haven't done many contracts tbh, because I am pushing to find out why everyone's' colonists are dying and it 6;40am and way past my bedtime lol

BTW I have managed to keep 6 colonists alive for a month now here's one of them

[austere raven]

ℹ️ if you select "We don't have time for this." in the very first Ledger dialog (#1244078051776532480 message) then you can still get the contracts. In my save, i also did not need the +1 Contract extra research for that.

[flint silo]

Not discounting the Devs finding a bug - but I made a number of games testing this over the weekend, including some with no saves at all, just rushing to get to ledger to see what happens.

a) Clicking "We'll complete the contract" opens ledgers chain locks you out of all "Faction Contracts" in the "Available column" (may eventually come back after finishing ledgers chain i was never able to finish because he started asking for tings i was a LONG way form making.

b) Clicking "We don't have time for this" Closes out Ledgers chain, but immediately opens the "Avalaible Contracts" to all factions.

I was able to duplicate both scenarios without utilizing any type of saving and exiting across for games this weekend.

[storm robin]

Just popping in to clear things up a bit.

You were not supposed to receive the entire Ledger forced contracts chain in the Sandbox - this is part of the bug. So if you do receive the second contract in the quest journal for 'Million Opportunities', you won't see the active contracts tab filled.

The contract bug only appears if you load, so even if you manually saved before completing the first contract, you should be fine. However, loading this save will cause the same problem.

If you loaded before receiving the Ledger quest, I suggest you say 'NO' to Ledger. This way, you'll receive the message that if you change your mind, you can build a landing pad and conduct research. However, if it's bugged, it may take a while because Ledger will try to convince you to choose his contract after some time passes.

A fix is on its way, and this contract activation issue won't be so confusing in the next patch.

[flint silo]

Im not sure i understand what you're describing... I can start a band new game, never save, never exit, never load, and still trigger this bug based purely on what choice I make with Ledger.

Are you saying there is a 2nd bug where loading a game that previously had active contracts will now force this behavior?

Or that having 0 contracts if you say yes to Ledger was by design, and would last until Ledger's chain is done?

[runic kindle]

Refer to the new #1245022837564244119 message

[subtle arrow]

Yeah, I'm with @flint silo on this one, since I typically rush the market technology I get Ledgers mission prompts pretty early in my new game sessions and I can confidently say I have never loaded a save in the time it takes to arrive at this script trigger, I'm also not trying to discount the troubleshooting the devs have undertaken to arrive at this conclusion I am simply trying to provide more clarity to what may be causing this issue

[flint silo]

I jsut did, but that's talking specifically about loading a saved game before Ledger, same as Misakihime mentions above.

But my point is, this bug trigers WITHOUT ever saving a game. I tested it heavily this weekend with multiple play thoughts, I can make this effect happen without EVER saving the game.

So it may be the same bug, and the save game is a distractor, or where they are seeing the outcome in reports because people are sending the save games in, but missing actual cause in the code base before the save happens.
OR
There are two separate bugs causing the same outcome.
OR
It IS a Save game issue, but Autosaves ALSO trigger it, and the autosaves that happen for Randomnoun and me are breaking it.

I played 17 hrs this weekend across 7 games, including two sessions of 4hrs plus. I ONLY save the game manually when I am done for the day.

[runic kindle]

It can easily be related. Misakihime is all over those bugs. Let's see what comes with the patch... Ledger is a source of much pain and we will see what we see next round.

[flint silo]

RGR - just wanting to make sure they dont miss one bug becasue of a similar outcome caused by another bug, or a cause thats ealier in the decision tree

[runic kindle]

Yup and the thing is: sometimes fixing one bug starts three more. But I am fairly certain are related somehow.

[flint silo]

Oh totally tracking - I do UI/UX dev for my day job, and was the intial end user interface tester whent he project started (untilwe hired a proper full time tester)

partially why i try to add as much info as posible and make it "organized"

[storm robin]

Thank you for the detailed info! We'll look through it.

[tight talon]

There is a downside to getting the generic contracts. After the inital send silicon, you dont get any more easy ones. also, so far have not got my two extra drones. Not sure if a bug or not.