#Sin master race general

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grizzled current
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😂

dapper hornet
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for glads

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you probably beat the shit out of him and now he's spooked KEKLEO

grizzled current
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i also had zhue the other day (julian i was told)

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but sadly didnt have my aion on

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he didnt have enough crit

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barely did dmg

dapper hornet
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maybe he was an accuracy addict like @blissful harbor

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now that i think about it

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he's an accuracy addict, you're a crit addict and i'm an attack addict

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guess we're all shit

grizzled current
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i have 3 dupe pieces of 55e

dapper hornet
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master race

grizzled current
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and as soon as i get gbg sword

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socket evade into it too

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get to 13k

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i can finally resocket the 3 dupe pieces to acc

dapper hornet
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eric is doing his dailies

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casual

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so are you gonna grace a gbg dagger with that para

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?

grizzled current
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gbg dagger already has para

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im going 2x para

dapper hornet
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remove it and slap another para on it

grizzled current
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but im also gonna get another gbg sword at some point in 2.7 or 2.8 for acc with silence gs

dapper hornet
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5% godstones proc like garbage on off hands

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unfortunately

grizzled current
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the 2nd gbg sword ill only get if i have excess medals

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its least prio

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still alot to do before that

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130 more medals for goal this patch +-

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then 3x small egbg set pieces and wings for goal in 2.7

blissful harbor
dapper hornet
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move speed is really good

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I haven't played too much with it yet since I have only socketed it today but jesus christ it procs like crazy and you need no movement at all

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huge bonus it helps you bury silence or blind

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but it can cuck itself by just re-procing

grizzled current
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2x para gang gang

dapper hornet
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I'm gonna go 2x para

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but I have 2x ms for my extends

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movement retard deluxe KEKLEO

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less time on extendables = more time on big boy weapons

blissful harbor
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im unshure, but atleast i hve 2 freee paras xD

dapper hornet
blissful harbor
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whats your toughts on what he swapping for throw dagger opener kd into beastleap? i cant figure it out what he could have swapped to

dapper hornet
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what timestamp?

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right at the start?

blissful harbor
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start

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ye

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he opens up with throw dagger shadowfalll and beastleap

dapper hornet
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macro using fuck

blissful harbor
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but he prob synapse swap something for opener 😂

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i was just curious what he was swapping to

blissful harbor
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looked anoyingly good opener, throw~> shadowall~> beast

dapper hornet
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it was MA. he has a cloth set on his switch bar.
that's the most likely option anyway, since the throw dagger stun is magical

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he did crit 384 through a shock scroll, which is weak on itself

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that's not very much damage

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so he seems to have lost a huge bunch of attack there

blissful harbor
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opener force ppl to instant rs tho

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else just continue pop runes

dapper hornet
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shadowfall always does.
I can't get behind beast leap though when the enemy is already stunned.

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could have used something more disposable like pain rune

blissful harbor
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i wonder what prio beastleap stun have

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if its lower or higher then pain

dapper hornet
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yea

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I hope it's higher than ambush goddamnit kekw

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can't stun shit with active ambush

blissful harbor
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if beast is lower then pain

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i could understand that move

grizzled current
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its prob only lower then ambush

dapper hornet
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true, fair point

grizzled current
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did he beaste after enemy sr?

blissful harbor
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seems i need to make ma set before 2.8

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yea i think

grizzled current
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ye its gives you hide to wait out sr

dapper hornet
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at 1:54 he waited for beast leap to run out before he used ambush

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so beast leap might at least have a lower priority than ambush

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fuck

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oh no I mean higher?

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my brain is not braining

grizzled current
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i do hope ambush overwrites leap

dapper hornet
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guess the best move is using dash attack for the most part

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after beast leap

grizzled current
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yea

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or flash

dapper hornet
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because that stun actually lasts a few sec

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and you have enough time to get a few hits in

blissful harbor
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beastleap is gona be huge

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with beast and throw dagger, we have finally more stuns then sorc

dapper hornet
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still less damage cringe

blissful harbor
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hahaha yea

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stupid how much they do

grizzled current
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gonna be interesting

dapper hornet
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I wonder if the hide is applied right at skill use without an animation?
as in, does the enemy see in which direction we beast leap, or are we just gone

grizzled current
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in grp pvp its prob even better to go qd

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in that patch

blissful harbor
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for shure

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beastleap is good in group too

grizzled current
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like rn with a good cleric i already go qd

blissful harbor
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yea qd is good burst,ä

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burst and kd is S tier

grizzled current
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dns ambush qd ripclaw silence

dapper hornet
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bruh that sin in the video

blissful harbor
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ambush fail stun and they walk out of range😂

dapper hornet
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round 3, he killed the exe, spammed shards and went into shadow walk

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absolute EU behavior right there

blissful harbor
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yes he is toxic as hell

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i like him😂

grizzled current
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hahaha

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shadow walk just wins alot of arenas

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its fact

blissful harbor
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well, everyone else have better arsenal for arenas

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ofc we use shadowalk

dapper hornet
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I won arena against my static's cleric once

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he was seething because of shadow walk

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ofc he used a million sets

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and I was like

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you play like a bitch, I play like a bitch

grizzled current
dapper hornet
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lets see who's the bigger bitch

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like jesus christ if you make a million sets to be immune against literally everything that could possibly kill you and go pussy mode then why do sins have no right to go pussy mode too

grizzled current
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last time i tried to play fair in round 3 i got lolstoned 2x back to back losing on the spot

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never again

blissful harbor
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i wish windwalk didint dissapear on taking a hit😂

dapper hornet
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also love the rage quit at the end

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glorious

grizzled current
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hiding out flight map and when ahead(only doesnt work on tog map or if not far ahead enough)

blissful harbor
dapper hornet
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yea that sin is an absolute nissan

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but whatever

blissful harbor
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i just gona stretch to 3 sets excluding pve

grizzled current
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i need to upgrade keyboard too

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with marco keys on the left

blissful harbor
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ah yea g keys

grizzled current
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then i can do macc and mboost

blissful harbor
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i will prob only use ma on binding and throw dagger

blissful harbor
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5 runes 2 sets = 10 buttons?

blissful harbor
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i miss my k95

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had a few G macro buttons

dapper hornet
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much better

blissful harbor
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my is always empty

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fan mail?

grizzled current
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well macc mainly 3 i guess

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needle should always hit

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blood is useless on macc

dapper hornet
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around 10 times a day

grizzled current
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so silence airbind pain

blissful harbor
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tbh i rather make dmg pop on radiant

grizzled current
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then silence wont hit

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only dmg part gets passive 500

blissful harbor
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yea, wish 500 internal ma would be on silence to

grizzled current
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on radiant

blissful harbor
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mr destoys to much haha

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wish poison stayed 30min duration 😂

dapper hornet
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ye

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retail has some awesome sin changes

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both poisons are passive, sprinting is passive too

blissful harbor
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yea crit+ flurry and double poison combind

dapper hornet
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crit and flurry are merged yea

blissful harbor
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flurry should be baseline haha

dapper hornet
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the only downside to this is that crit is 1min and flurry is 30sec, they cut that down to 30sec so you use half a min of crit

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and flurry is kinda useless since you have 60% attackspeed all day

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they added some attack to it but that doesn't help too much

blissful harbor
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wish i could have 60% now

dapper hornet
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nah dude

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I have logged on retail a week or so ago

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my brain can't process that shit

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you dont want 60%

blissful harbor
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60% d/d

dapper hornet
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and you don't want to rip 500k dps while spamming 10 skills a second

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I felt like a zoomer robot who completely lost touch, retial aion is hyperactive as fuck

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and not methodical at all

blissful harbor
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old school poison would be fine too

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not able to open wings while poisoned

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fly/glide

dapper hornet
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glide to cancel fear

blissful harbor
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that was balanced then

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sorcs was not fun back then, asmo sorcs

dapper hornet
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boon of quickness

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aw ye

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cast spells at the rate of melee skills

blissful harbor
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instant inferno and glacials

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we bareley had mb, or mb swaps back then😂

grizzled current
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macc wouldnt have helped retail 2.x

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macc boosts came 3.x

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composites came 4.x

toxic swallow
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Composites were the worst thing they added for 4.x tbh

dapper hornet
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nah full attack6/crit9 was the shit

grizzled current
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i had 2 sets in 4.x

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att/crit + macc and att/crit + acc

dapper hornet
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hope we get that feel back, dual wielding polearms with those 1k+ attack on each hand

blissful harbor
blissful harbor
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@dapper hornet so u thinking about double dagger pewpew anytime ? with your little calc🤓

dapper hornet
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and it's probably worse if you have to sacrifice attack for it

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if the next set of pvp weapons have attack and crit on the daggers I will absolutely go d/d

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my little test assumed a 50% crit chance against the target

blissful harbor
dapper hornet
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without any pvp atk?

blissful harbor
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atm yes

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i wont make gbg until better comes out, to far behind atm

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i rather get mb pvp weaps before that😂

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securing pve until 3.0 got 3 items left

dapper hornet
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ye idk

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I can't be assed to farm 2 more weapons and enchant and socket them

blissful harbor
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d/d we look like thugs with knifes

dapper hornet
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sounds good

blissful harbor
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your dummy parse was 10 min?

dapper hornet
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yes

blissful harbor
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wonder what back to back parses of ~30 sec would be

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rng burst with 2 strike comparison

dapper hornet
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the issue is that 30sec is a really small window so you'd have to do like 10 of them in order to get some proper tendencies at least

blissful harbor
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yea ofc

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fang chain must have felt amazing with d/d

dapper hornet
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sin feels amazing on d/d in general

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it feels like the class was really made for d/d

blissful harbor
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it does, one big reason why i wow want padma set for pve hero

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other is… i hate dp s runs

grizzled current
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dagger dagger is fine once pvp weapons have all stats

blissful harbor
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yea for shure

safe charm
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any new title coming with speed + attack speed ?

grizzled current
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i dont think any perma ones

safe charm
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damn sadge

dapper hornet
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get miragent/fenris

safe charm
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ye figured

blissful harbor
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seems we can use beast leap on wings too🤓

safe charm
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wait what

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huge tho but fly pvp limited now

blissful harbor
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yea but i saw one use it arena

dapper hornet
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yea, it's one good thing at least

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we'll also get +2m attack range on slayer for flight pvp to make it less shit

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but it's still gonna be shit.

neat mulch
dapper hornet
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but only for flight pvp

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ground range is still gonna be ass

neat mulch
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erffff faaaaaack

dapper hornet
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well at least it's something right

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if they brought the 5.0 slayer back (and its awesome appearance, instead of that balaur thing we got rn) with the actual added attack range then I would never bitch about sins ever again

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5.0 slayer/mist butcher looked soooooo sick

dapper hornet
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because flight pvp is amazing and they wanted focus on the good content

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nah fr sin is the weakest flight pvp class in the entire game, by far, I guess they wanted to make it less garbage so people don't just sw flight arenas

blissful harbor
dapper hornet
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ye because we are training dummies if we don't hug the pillar

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at least the pillar forces people into range

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and it's safe from the lava eruption bs

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so either become best friends with the pillar or go shadow walk, literally your only options

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we don't even have our speed advantage because everyone is capped on flight speed at all times.

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we're literally pointless, useless and absolute garbage once our wings are open

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Winged Death, more like winged dead

blissful harbor
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i had chanter run me down when i had 5% ms title and candy😂

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he was fast as fk

dapper hornet
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yea chanters are almost as fast as sins

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the difference in those few % doesn't even matter at that point

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we still need ambush to work in flight as flash of speed too

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but even then, we'd still be hot garbage

blissful harbor
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yea but i even dashed and ambushed mob to get away fron zerg 😂 he still run me down, bit scetchy about his rundown

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sin life is hard

dapper hornet
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that shouldn't be possible, mathematically

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unless you forgot sprinting, which I don't think you did

blissful harbor
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i did not 😂

dapper hornet
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sprinting gives 20%, while the mantra only gives 10 (+5% title, +3% candy), so even without any title or candy you should at least be 2% faster

blissful harbor
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i catched me from 40m to 25 and slapped ranged stun 😂

dapper hornet
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xform?

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or wow maybe

blissful harbor
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tbh i didint look

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was micro sec from having hide up😂

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some sorcs are also having amazing trigger finger on either whrilwind or wintry too😂

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i personally hate wintry😅

dapper hornet
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lol true

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so many sorcs that see a sin and insta reaction is wintry and whirlwind

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lmao

blissful harbor
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slideshot beast and stuck in stun or have to gtfo😂

dapper hornet
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beast leap will counter those shitters

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hard

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god I want 2.7 NOW

blissful harbor
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but its hide I , they could pop eye or seed for it tho

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we might get shitty version first, where dmg cancels it 🥹

dapper hornet
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that's up to gf

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idk about the hide I thing

blissful harbor
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first version is hide I with ms and buff 2 times

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second is no buff, but unbreakable hide I

dapper hornet
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not gonna bash anyone but I have seen so many sorcs simply being borderline mentally retarded.
they see a sin go into hide 2 and pop their eye in desperate hopes to see us nonetheless.
on the other hand they're probably too dumb to realize that beast leap is hide 1 and just pop something big like boon of ironclad instead

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either way even if a sorc has an iq of above 60 they still would need to deal with the opened gap

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since it's hide + gap opener

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it's a god tier disengage, probably the best in the entire game

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  • stun KEKLEO
blissful harbor
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still dissengage 15m

blissful harbor
blissful harbor
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wonder if wintry counts a shield effect😂

dapper hornet
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wintry isn't a shield effect

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but boon of ironclad is

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I wonder if the shield or the stun res has higher priority

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if boon of ironclad gets dispeled, would the stun go through?

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I mean stun + dispel are the same hit, and boon of ironclad gives you 1k stun resist

blissful harbor
dapper hornet
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nah

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but we can dispel bodyguard

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and spirit sub

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and spellstopping

blissful harbor
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wont go on templar anyway solo😂😂

dapper hornet
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I was trying to say that it'll be ultra useful in group pvp aswell

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and people will hopefully not see us as dogshit anymore

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when we can kill an sm pretty much instantly even though bg and spirit sub

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that's huge

blissful harbor
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QD kd and shadowfall is amazing

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only problem is mr with dagger

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hopefully it got good internal cd, we need to test that as soon it comes out

dapper hornet
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wdym?

blissful harbor
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internal stat, if it have any +ma

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like radiant have +500 on dmg

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rangers confuse/dispell arrow have +1000ma

dapper hornet
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it's not fear

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idk about throw dagger, since in that one vid the sin switched to MA when using it

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but let's hope for the best

blissful harbor
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yea, legal swap going to be 1 sec swap😂😅

dapper hornet
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besides, rangers have to socket it and it has 1min more cd + no stun

blissful harbor
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yea, i just said fear, but its not fear per definition

dapper hornet
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and no damage

dapper hornet
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I know what you mean but I think it's important to differentiate, like we differentiate stun and knockdown

blissful harbor
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it first got advertised as fear arrow, it got stucked in my head😂

dapper hornet
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false advertisement

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it's not fear, it's confusion 😅

blissful harbor
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either way, hopefully throw dagger have internal ma

dapper hornet
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confusion is almost useless compared to fear

blissful harbor
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u could follow up sleep trap in close quarters

dapper hornet
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when would you have the time for that

blissful harbor
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seen that a few times in arena, totally busted having sleep and that dispel arrow

dapper hornet
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alright lemme get this straight

blissful harbor
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3 sec duration on confusion 1 sec deployment on trap xD

dapper hornet
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the confusion arrow confuses you, it does not fear you.

fear has 3 key things:

  • you run away from the caster in a straight line
  • you get increased elemental resistance
  • you can not do anything while feared

these things are different for confusion

  • you run into random directions, rather than away
  • you don't get increased elemental res
  • you CAN use dispel pots
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so if you don't get confuse covered then you can just pot out of it

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it's much much weaker than fear and has a huge 3 min cooldown

blissful harbor
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fear does not increase elemental def, wish it did🥹

dapper hornet
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you sure?

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maybe im mixing that one up with retail

blissful harbor
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sleep does

dapper hornet
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oh well, then scratch that

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either way you can just pot out of it

blissful harbor
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fear is random directions tho, confusion run away, atleast in this case

dapper hornet
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no, it's the other way around

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confusion is random, fear is away from the caster

blissful harbor
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yes u right

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confused there 😂

dapper hornet
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ofc I am
I only make shit up 50% of the time, but 50% of the time I don't

blissful harbor
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either way, seen some nasty combos in arena

grizzled current
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confusion is in the game

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like lephar lab boss

dapper hornet
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yes

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it's mob only tho

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for now

grizzled current
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you run into rando directions or not move

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its rng

blissful harbor
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wonder if we even gona use massacre when it comes :/

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feels so underwhelming

dapper hornet
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it's gonna be nice but it's definitely not gonna make up for what other classes get

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such as instant glacial or instant CL

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or withering gloom cringe

blissful harbor
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slow is nice and all, but every fking class get movement imparing dispels it feels😂

dapper hornet
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yea the best thing we can do with it is to quickly try and cover silence or something so they can't use those skills

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on the other hand they might pot it and just kite us to shit

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I got around to test the double movement slow extends btw, it procs like crazy

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like literally almost every time I hopen with a weave and skill they already ate a proc kekw

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shit's nasty

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gonna put another movement slow on my bow now

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:keekl

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^ look at my fuckup

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I won't correct that

blissful harbor
blissful harbor
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feel good having not taken out my paras from 13k gs and off quest

dapper hornet
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gonna be a while until that 13k

blissful harbor
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yea haha but i aim slapping para 3.0 pvp weaps😂😂

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get mb pvp weap is higher prio😂

dapper hornet
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not even KR has new pvp weapons

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so you'll sit on those paras for years

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they still have gbg/abg

blissful harbor
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its just how it is atm, well see

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going accs before anyway

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im enough confident i can kill like a glasscannon 😂 so i go accs first

agile chasm
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Just want to compare between you all; Stormwing fight
For example i do 100-75% with Tank on the pillar and swap to the back until 50% and stick to the side until 25% when i need to start running and focus on avoiding Tornados if rng is on my side.

Do any of you sit with tank for the whole thing or any little tricks that you find helps melee interaction on SW?

dapper hornet
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sitting with the tank worked until like 50% and then shit hits the fan and the entire fight devolves into pandaemonium.
I couldn't make out a proper strategy. Just dodge stuff and hope you don't get whirrr'd

grizzled current
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very important to not train tank with lightning so you at least have to leave tank spot when dragon thing casts

dapper hornet
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dragon quake

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I train him every time just because he keeps seething over it

agile chasm
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Ok nice to know there is a limit on how long you can be there

dapper hornet
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are you happy now

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@grizzled current @blissful harbor

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you bullied me into socketing crit

toxic swallow
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How much crit unbuffed now

dapper hornet
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542 and I'm not gonna socket any more

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I got so much shit from so many people not for being a full attack stacy kekw

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712 with food and scroll is enough for me, and if someone disagrees then choke on your manastones because I'm not gonna socket any more crit cringe

grizzled current
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ayeee

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chest +2 pants+1 5 slot sw full evade
shoulder hands boots 55e all 3 +10 full evade
gbg sword +7 with 4 evade stones
gbg dagger +12 full att

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+flying

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that got me to 13k

blissful harbor
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think i wait until it just pops in, that 13k😂

grizzled current
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somehow even sword in mainhand gives extra

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then other way around

blissful harbor
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wth

grizzled current
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also flying gives more

blissful harbor
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ah haha

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u better show us some good pair or para weaps

grizzled current
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yaya 2x gbg 2x para

blissful harbor
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hopefully 3.0 pvp dagger have crit

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auxi got me hyped on actually slappint double cutters

blissful harbor
dapper hornet
grizzled current
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the ranking is pretty useless anyway

blissful harbor
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para gs is not😂

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stupid with manastones as count tbh

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would be better if it was gear and enchantment only

dapper hornet
grizzled current
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flying counts

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its stats

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all you need is the 13k to show up

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and you get the gs box

dapper hornet
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thanks for the correction, appreciate it

grizzled current
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its kinda dumb that evade stones are needed

dapper hornet
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what do you mean

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evasion is the highest end stat possible

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evasion stones are the best stones in the game

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of course they should give the highest combat rating

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only beaten by MP

blissful harbor
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mp build would be insane

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imagine never need to pot

dapper hornet
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hey I'm glad they changed the % MP drain from sprinting to a flat value

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and once we got slayer, there won't be a need for pots anyway

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well, of course we will maybe pot from time to time, but slayer will be ultimate comfiness

blissful harbor
dapper hornet
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stop reminding me

toxic swallow
dapper hornet
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literally no

toxic swallow
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Yes

dapper hornet
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I'd rather be a desert fox than this weird ass anthro krotan beast balaur abomination

toxic swallow
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I despise candies and how they look

dapper hornet
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I hope they bring back the 5.0 slayer design

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even if it's not called slayer but Mist Butcher

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but again, looks much much better

toxic swallow
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Haven't seen that

blissful harbor
dapper hornet
toxic swallow
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That one is cool damn

blissful harbor
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as dw jedi is not possible

dapper hornet
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on mist butcher

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how black do you even want it to be

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and please don't say malmö black because I'd lose my shit but it would also be too racist for this discord kekw

blissful harbor
#

wtf is malmö black

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never heard of that

dapper hornet
#

ever been to malmö?

blissful harbor
blissful harbor
dapper hornet
#

let's say

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I'm talking about the people, not about the city

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lol

blissful harbor
#

who tha fk cares about the ppl in a city

dapper hornet
#

man

blissful harbor
#

malmö is basically denmark anyway so

dapper hornet
#

I tried making a racist joke here because there's like 90% black people in malmö and you keep fucking it up to the point where my racism isn't even funny anymore

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why are you like this

blissful harbor
#

because iam a pianist

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i push down both black and white

blissful harbor
dapper hornet
#

you really wanna know huh?

blissful harbor
#

u prob from skåne or something, but 90% black ppl in malmö is a bit naive statement😂

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u have potato in your mouth when u speak?😂

blissful harbor
#

would made sense for slayer to give 300 ma AND acc also imo🥹

blissful harbor
#

@dapper hornet what was the atkspeed diffrence u had with d/d vs d/s in you little singel digit ping benchmark

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ingame it shows the same , but 0.xx does not show ingame right?

dapper hornet
#

ping doesn't matter for your theoretical attackspeed

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ingame it shows the attackspeed rounded up

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the formula is MainHand+(OffHand*0.25)

blissful harbor
#

atm i get 0.25 atks diff vs those 2 setups, fully slapped 50% atksp

dapper hornet
#

I only measured the dps, not the actual number of hits

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can do that later

blissful harbor
dapper hornet
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man

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get fiber

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you freak

blissful harbor
#

i have fiber 😉 1000/1000Mbit

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its not that, more like location and routing xD

grizzled current
#

@blissful harbor 🙂

dapper hornet
#

i can count the pixels

grizzled current
#

just a scrolled in ss

dapper hornet
#

my eyes hurt

blissful harbor
#

imagine if u could skin slayer to snowman 😄

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juicy para pulsing snowman

dapper hornet
#

sin bros

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we are not rerolling to executor once it comes out right?

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we are gonna stay strong right?

grizzled current
#

nah fuuuk thaaat

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we stay in hide

blissful harbor
#

we need to get ourself the new extendable

grizzled current
#

meh

grizzled current
#

im not gonna bother with these garbage extends

neat mulch
#

New extend in 2.7/2.8 ?

grizzled current
#

yea but not rly good and almost unoptainable

blissful harbor
#

non existent in NA i guess?

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seems like i envy KR, so many have it

neat mulch
#

Alukina 58 dont drop 58 extend dagger ?

grizzled current
#

its from vaile mast

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giga rng

neat mulch
grizzled current
#

luckily they can only underfuse 50 pvp

neat mulch
#

55 IS overrated

grizzled current
#

well if it was a 55 weapon you could underfuse gbg

blissful harbor
#

thats why i hated they took away the positive things with dw

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dual atkspeed 😛

blissful harbor
#

@grizzled current if i get u your extends needed in 2.7, u takem?

grizzled current
#

i wont get them xD

blissful harbor
#

i love this asmo Tixxler

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signet build slapping, i can barely live sometimes

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lost 4k ap doing dailys, worth it

lime badger
#

Guys I need an advice. Have 40e +13 Armour parts, and 55e accessories.
What abg would you go 1st in my place Armour or accessories?

grizzled current
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do you have a weapon?

lime badger
#

Yeah, both.

grizzled current
#

oh then id go accs

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i dont think its worth for you to go 40e into 55e set now

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better after accs to get a mix of egbg set and cavalier set

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for example ill do 3 pieces egbg and chest pants cavalier with 2.8

lime badger
#

Ok, thanks for an advice @grizzled current!

grizzled current
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that way you can also save kinah/enchan/manastones for a bit

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accs dont cost anything

dapper hornet
#

M-My Führer....

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nvm he actually used his asmo glad powers to train us

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not my führer anymore

random nova
#

oiiiii there is any stats calculate for classic ?

grizzled current
#

you mean like gear calc

random nova
random nova
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on the past livo was really good for formulas

grizzled current
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10phys deff 1 less dmg

grizzled current
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np

random nova
#

yoo assassin bros. i have only attack set. wanna do ma set for mr players but idk how much ma we need on this patch. i was usin 1.450 ma on 4.0 patch but idk about this patch. anyone calculated or tested ?

grizzled current
#

so wihtout buffs a few clerics reach little over 2.4k mr

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with 40e on macc 12 and macc 14 on 5 slot weapons you can get to 1800 macc (macc candy)

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which leads runes to have 2.3k macc

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i want to have 50e cloth on mboost and 40e cloth on macc

random nova
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yea i will do 40e ma

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but i have no another 6 slot weps

grizzled current
#

my plan is padma dirk and taha dagger offhand

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dirk is cheap and i have 2 taha daggers for such a purpose

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sorcs and sms will also be more and more with mres set

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and if they use their own buff we have to use one aswell

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like oath now or slayer in 2.7

random nova
#

before doin mb set should i do first ma set. ill do mb set on 2.7 patch when game give us free e50

random nova
grizzled current
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that will be stats of my mboost and macc setup

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you can get more macc with 40e

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if you go for pve eternal accs

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this is with pvp magic accs

random nova
#

im following some korean players

grizzled current
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what did they do

random nova
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idk why but their ma not that much good its like a hybrid

grizzled current
#

but then you will always have to rely on having a buff rdy

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and with a buff like oath rdy

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or even both oath and slayer you can just stay full mboost

random nova
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ma 1440 mb 674 on his set

grizzled current
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but its leather

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no mboost stats on leather

random nova
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why he made like this set 😄

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i will ask him what he usin for maa and mb set seems like this maa + mb hybrid

grizzled current
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1440 macc with runes bonus macc is 1940 with slayer 2240

random nova
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skill ma isnt better on next patches ? still 500 ?

grizzled current
#

but is that 130 macc rly so much better

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50e full mboost you get to 1310 macc

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while having 1600 mboost

random nova
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he is online on stream ill ask him now

random nova
#

@grizzled current this one his ma set

grizzled current
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prob 50e with pve magic accs

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or even gbg magic

random nova
#

ill check it now

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taking clip

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if i can

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he is every season master on korea even on new server with second acc

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killing plates like a clocth

grizzled current
#

could you link the stream pls

grizzled current
#

ty

random nova
#

yw

grizzled current
#

after 30 sec it ends wtf

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i refresh

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after 30 sec ends again

random nova
#

idk but i cant open now

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sec ill change my ip and comin back

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i cant open stream for now idk why

grizzled current
#

lol

random nova
#

oky working now

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he doin arena with alt now

grizzled current
#

hes on sin

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for me

random nova
#

its male sin his alt

grizzled current
#

lol

random nova
#

not stopping stream for me

grizzled current
#

made an account and it works since

random nova
#

ah yea maybe about it

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i have acc

grizzled current
#

well im not at his speed haha

random nova
#

this afreecatv really amazing for aion since 2013 im following koreans for aion news

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also he usin keyboard macro

grizzled current
#

ye thats fine

random nova
#

so fast

grizzled current
#

unlike some elyos sin on atreia with ahk

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synapse seems to be alot faster then icue tho

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i only have corsair

random nova
#

i have asus

#

that new flying skill amazing

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like a second ambush

grizzled current
#

yea

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also sin step is so good

random nova
#

that jumping back skill really amazing

grizzled current
#

ye assasin step

random nova
#

3 sec hide with max speed + 1000ma

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he is draining %50 hp lol. im really need to do mb

grizzled current
#

it also gets buffed soon

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its not that much yet

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but its still like 3k rn

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wiht mboost

random nova
#

on 4.6 patch i was draining %100 hp with mb set

grizzled current
#

yea

random nova
#

it was really got when doin 1vX

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that shadowfall skill my fav skill

grizzled current
#

im rly hyped for the next few patches and assa changes

random nova
#

i loving really much

grizzled current
#

ye it also resets fe

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so good

random nova
#

assassin will be really good

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on this patch sin like a oky

grizzled current
#

and it grp you can go qd for a even better knockdown

random nova
#

but after 2.8 patch really great

grizzled current
#

yea

random nova
#

at least ely sin have silence + 2 mr asmo even worst

grizzled current
#

you get elyos silence

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i get 2nd 100%

random nova
#

yea on 2.7 patch

grizzled current
#

2,8

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so in summer this year

random nova
#

are you sure ? 2.7 isnt balance patch?

grizzled current
#

ye the fraction skill changes are 2.8

random nova
grizzled current
#

2.7 we get slayer and sin step

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hmm even the dmg buff to blind seems to be 2.8

random nova
#

sad

random nova
grizzled current
#

happens to the best

random nova
dapper hornet
random nova
#

@grizzled current mb set 1529mb 1603ma armors elite cavalier

grizzled current
#

ya cavalier is crazy

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i want it for acc mainly

random nova
#

better for ma

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but i dont like leather. cuz losing much ap

grizzled current
#

my main att set is gonna be cavalier chest and pants, and small parts egbg

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then 3 small cavalier parts on acc

random nova
#

ABG will be my main attack set. i think ma or mb set enough for magic skills

grizzled current
#

dont forget its normal on kr to have everything

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like balic accs

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its rare here

random nova
#

its oky i can use 50lvl items for mb enough for me

grizzled current
#

ye my next plan is getting 50e cloth

random nova
#

prolly game will give 50lvl full set slowly

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with events or event pass

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like 40lvl set

grizzled current
#

ye im buying chest pants

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and wait for 2 more small parts

random nova
#

i have no any ma or mb set thats why ill wait a bit more for mb set

dapper hornet
#

do you guys know how much damage a 10/20% general godstone deals without magic boost?

grizzled current
#

you can test with lethal venom and calc it down to gs value

dapper hornet
#

im not buying lethal venom for this

grizzled current
#

i can look at it tomorrow xd

dapper hornet
#

legend. much appreciated

safe charm
#

with 0 mb it does the damage it says at least for 10% i can tell u

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189 10% gs does 169 on dummy actually

blissful harbor
#

and then roughly 9 mb per 1% dmg

grizzled current
dapper hornet
#

need confirmation

random nova
#

what i heared gliding skill is not bilind its silence

dapper hornet
#

it's blind

random nova
dapper hornet
random nova
#

na givin wrong info ?

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hahahaha

dapper hornet
#

that's weird

random nova
#

prolly wrong info

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cuz icon seems like blind

dapper hornet
#

KR pvp videos show a blind, which would also be more fitting for sins themtically

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guess NA just screwed up

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yea NA screwed up

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why would a ranger "slash" anything anyway

random nova
#

im a bit confused cuz icon was seems like blind

dapper hornet
#

but at least we know that sins blow KEKLEO

random nova
#

btw when korean players attacking with that skill

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they r hiding also

dapper hornet
#

yea thats the most recent change

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which sucks cock but whatever

random nova
#

fe reset is amazing also

dapper hornet
#

shit, I should have sold it for 150

random nova
#

ely side so exp

blissful harbor
dapper hornet
#

bought 5 of them for 40kk each, now selling for 120+

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holding them like stocks

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free money

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wait a few months and youre rich

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when exe hits europe, you can probably sell those for 150+

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I'll try going for 200mil because it takes only one single rmt god to do 2 clicks

dapper hornet
#

what the hell is this

#

no I mean what the fuck is this shit

#

dagger and sword both attack only, NO crit

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I mean 42 attack is huge but we have to supplement more crit worth of stones than the attack it nets us

#

at least it has giga accuracy I guess...

grizzled current
#

those are the non elite

dapper hornet
#

there is no elite

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just like gbg

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weapons

grizzled current
#

there will be at some point is my guess

dapper hornet
#

gbg didn't get elite either

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idk

grizzled current
#

ye but 60 had elite back then

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gbg didnt

dapper hornet
#

be honest

#

is this an actual assumption or is this plain cope

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because if I were to cope I'd tell that myself

grizzled current
#

anything else just doesnt make any sense

#

so

dapper hornet
#

I wouldn't get my hopes up

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it's not OG aion

#

at least it won't make a difference whether you go 2d or ds now

#

sub stat wise

blissful harbor
#

wth no crit

#

nasty pfp @dapper hornet

dapper hornet
random nova
#

maybe someone here can help me. How is it, that in a fight with some assas, when they are using the beast swipe chain, you cant move away and by other sins u can move away?
And why is it, that some sins, dealing over 5k dmg with painrune without any runes stacked up?

grizzled current
#

you sure its painrune and not the chainskill

#

your ingame chat can show info which skill delt the dmg

empty bronze
#

i would say they swap to mboost and swap back for rune dmg

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i tried mboost set and even with shit 800 mboost it deals like 3 k dmg from painrune

#

and beast kick normally pulls back

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if there is no shield like stoneskin or something else

grizzled current
#

thats a given ye

dapper hornet
#

remove shock also grants immunity to the beast kick pushback

grizzled current
#

but still painrune needs a crit to do 4k in pvp

empty bronze
#

ye rs grants immunity true and like sins have also the deaggro skilll calming whisper

grizzled current
#

shh

empty bronze
#

should also count if im not wrong

grizzled current
#

dont tell them about that one

dapper hornet
#

calming whisper only gives you a certain chance

#

unfortunately

#

200, was it?

grizzled current
#

250 resi ye

dapper hornet
#

ah 250

#

25% basically

empty bronze
#

calming whisper rng duells i love it XP pluss mress buff sin vs sin

dapper hornet
#

idk sin vs sin duels are weird

#

especially when you're elyos

grizzled current
#

they are indeed so many tools, and its all about who reacts faster

dapper hornet
#

it's all just a damage race because it's impossible to stunlock someone with a brain through 4 resists and RS

empty bronze
#

XD all are almost stun immune jsut burs tor kite

#

and pry noone uses mboost

dapper hornet
#

everyone does

#

I know it's not everyone

#

but MANY sins have mb sets just because the damage is nuts

grizzled current
#

troll is you dont use mboost

empty bronze
#

i litterally tried mine 40 e but its to low and i rlly cant afford to work for mboost gear

grizzled current
#

you need it for macc

empty bronze
#

and im to lazzy to swap

dapper hornet
#

radiant rune crits for like 5-6k

empty bronze
#

with buff last few weeks i ate a 9.3k crit las ttime from someone i forgot the name

dapper hornet
#

depends on the pve def ofc

empty bronze
#

i was like yea fuck mboost tbh nothing to do with sin

dapper hornet
#

idk if I can agree on that

#

mb is bullshit broken yea

empty bronze
#

XD

dapper hornet
#

but jumping out of hide and destroying a single target to fuck off again is pretty much the assassin type class fantasy

#

the playstyle itself fits the class more than the "fighter" type we have if we socket a ton of utility

empty bronze
#

i jus thope pvp gets better with garnissions

#

now its just run to fort and back disgusting zerg

dapper hornet
#

it's gonna be a zergy shitshow regardless.
people are too scared and insecure to do them without their 5 boyfriends.

#

don't get your hopes up

empty bronze
#

since loot is out of game almost noone grinds or anything harder to gank

#

yea but it splits i guess always splitted more dont destroy my illusion XD

random nova
random nova
#

and if beastswipe chain pulls you back, why doesnt it do it allways? agaisnt some ass you cant get away, agaisnt som eother assas you can just walk away. even when im using the chain, sometime players get pulled back sometimes not. its just kinda stranger that many of those mighty sin players killin u un that 3 seconds because of reasonens

grizzled current
#

wasnt me couse im not on signet

random nova
#

shoch remove when u dont get stuned?

#

i was walking around, sin came with besatswipe out of the hide, i couldnt move, and get killed in 3 secs

dapper hornet
#

that sounds like it did exactly what it's supposed to do.

#

opening with kicks is one of the best things you can do from stealth

#

it's a mini stunlock without actually stunning

#

one of the bullshit "undocumented CCs" in the game

random nova
#

so if i do the same against other players and my beastswipe isnt pulling them back, i can say they cheating? or how should i understand your: its supposed to work like that? i know many sins who arent triggered from that

dapper hornet
#

I can only copy and paste checka's message.

#

UD, BOIC, etc.

random nova
#

and whats that?^^ i never heared of that and im sure backt in retail it wasnt working like that^^

dapper hornet
#

shields like stone skin also prevent the pushback

dapper hornet
empty bronze
#

shields calming whisper removeshock stats its not only not stunnable it boosts resistances

dapper hornet
#

it's either shields, resists, or shock resistences

empty bronze
#

thats also in 4.6 sins with atack macc stones could stun trough rdg and all resistances

#

bec rs gives resistance only

random nova
#

well that i know, but ranger and sins dont ahve a shield. do u know how big the chances are, that everytime u attack the same sins and rangers that pullback never works?^^

dapper hornet
empty bronze
#

they could i could stun trough rdg

dapper hornet
#

anyway UD has had an 800 stun resistance tied to it

empty bronze
#

ud mb XD

dapper hornet
#

which means you've always had a 20% chance of stunning

#

also killer's eye gave 500 stun res pen

empty bronze
#

okay then i didnt say anything

dapper hornet
#

fact is, magic accuracy has never had any impact on stun resistance, because stun resistance only gets countered by stun res pen

empty bronze
#

just really somehow felt way better stun pen wise

dapper hornet
#

people did feel like it that way, but we do have 4.6 server emulators and people did datamine formulas a long time ago, magic accuracy has never had any impact on stun res

#

trust me I would have loved to just use an MA set and shit all over plates

#

but that's just mathematically not true

empty bronze
#

oka ythen i learned somting mb for missleading calls

dapper hornet
#

it's always the best to just test things out

random nova
#

taht with MA i know, that was tested back then^^

dapper hornet
#

thing is, people back then didn't bother running tests, and just stuck to whatever "good" players told them

#

it's always been like that

#

but questioning your idols is how you eventually surpass them

#

keep testing, lads.
do independent research, do some math

#

stop following, start leading

random nova
#

i keep testing, but sometime it just feels od.. players with same gear dealing twice the dmg, resisting every stun etc...

empty bronze
#

ik the frustrating feeling with stunresist but its for sure a buff they used mostly

dapper hornet
#

we need to test whether MR impacts the beast kick pushback

#

safe resists and the stat itself

random nova
dapper hornet
#

this is useless

empty bronze
#

ambus has a chance to stund if im not wrong

random nova
#

yeah it has a chance.. if it wouldnt stun, the messege resist wouldnt show or not?

dapper hornet
#

it's a bad translation

#

ambush stuns

#

not with a chance, but as a normal mechanic

#

but it can get resisted

#

it does not have an MA modifier

#

so even with +500MA you can still get resists

#

which sucks major donkey doodoo but that's how it is

blissful harbor
#

i cant trust servers, just slideshot those beast chains for follow🙈

grizzled current
#

right now rs gives 1000 which is why glads can go through

#

later patch it will be 2000

random nova
#

well with killerseye and macc buff u get 2k macc

#

the chances that someone has that much mress is crazy 😮

grizzled current
#

i still havent seen how much stun pen we get on killers eye

#

on retail it was 500

#

which vs ud would be 50%

#

vs rs 0% (with the change of rs beeing 2000)

dapper hornet
blissful harbor
dapper hornet
blissful harbor
#

xD

dapper hornet
#

dumdum

blissful harbor
grizzled current
dapper hornet
#

man how is a pastebin more reliable than datamined skill assets

blissful harbor
#

its datamined and tested 😂

dapper hornet
#

they all claim to be

#

which one can we trust

blissful harbor
#

above is from khana

dapper hornet
#

ok so fuck above

blissful harbor
#

🥸

#

xD

dapper hornet
#

best skill in the game

#

change my mind

blissful harbor
#

if we get better skin

dapper hornet
#

but we dont

#

slayer 2 is on KR

#

looks like shit too

blissful harbor
#

worst skill from sins is throw shuriken😳

#

follow by break Aetherhold

grizzled current
#

sin step and shield removing throw dagger Eresh_the_Pepe

grizzled current
#

so much dmg

#

just look at its base dmg

blissful harbor
#

wish we had spammable aetherhold skill, like sorc🤓 throw shuriken 0.3 sec cooldown or something

grizzled current
#

we get assasination chain

dapper hornet
#

only works on stun, not airbind

#

yes yes I know poison

#

just trying to disagree for the sake of it

blissful harbor
grizzled current
#

ye

dapper hornet
#

you can use it during mvement

#

but only the chain itself, not assassination per say

#

that skill becomes mobile later on though

grizzled current
#

no

#

ye

dapper hornet
#

no

#

ye

#

let me finish typing

grizzled current
#

same with ln slash

#

go finish miragent instead so i can give you kinah

dapper hornet
#

no

grizzled current
dapper hornet
#

I have actually managed to AFK myself into an AP bottleneck

#

bros how do I cope with this miserable existence

safe charm
#

same here tbh

#

bored to farm ap xd

#

i hate the ow ap gain kinda sucks

#

got more in flying abyss then shit patch idk why

grizzled current
#

@safe charm;)

safe charm
#

good one tbh i am just doing chill daily

#

might as well keep farming me xD

grizzled current
#

nah its fine

#

to many rangers around haha

#

someone with eye rdy every 20 sec