tats why she has 1 bil might tag and 200 mil might tag
#👾┊familiars
jolly nova
sonic bane
The titan i post yes I'm lying about that but the mu 221M have 23 max familiar not complete those tomes in research
jolly nova
still dont believe u buddy but sure
keep your secrets off discord
no one needs to hear it
sonic bane
Is up to you i can't blame you
jolly nova
i cant rally when i have no target -.-
dusk igloo
@sonic bane send her cords show her the black wing power if she doesn't attack she is the liar in here
jolly nova
keep lying cool story. we can read that in our game as well
jolly nova
jolly nova
until u post a ss like this u are lying
dusk igloo
Just burn here!!!!
sonic bane
I will not post and who you to do that for you
potent wagon
he's legit, i know him lol
sonic bane
Ok nevermind
jolly nova
why cant i crop it? atleast im not lying like you?
sonic bane
Hmmm
jolly nova
even if i'm lying. doesnt change the fact you are a blantant liar 
sonic bane
Oh come on
dusk igloo
sonic bane
@jolly novayou fight me here cause of that such low life person you are
dusk igloo
Yeah should fight you in the game...
Not scared to attack a 212 mm right ??!
sonic bane
dusk igloo
Liar liar your castle on fire
sonic bane
dusk igloo
I just want to see some reds
sonic bane
Hahaha
jolly nova
the only low life is u. trying to flex with acct seller ss?
sonic bane
Many you can see those people who send in report battle
jolly nova
LMFAO
yet you are the one saying im low life. lul
atleast put money where your mouth is
low
life
u cant even play a mobile game without lying
tats kinda sad
sonic bane
@jolly novabla bla you the one now annoying post again that such low life person you are
jolly nova
sonic bane
Go go post it again
jolly nova
jolly nova
says the one that spammed on all three channels
dusk igloo
@sonic bane @jolly nova what k are you from ?
sonic bane
Go spam again send to all server that I'm lying
jolly nova
i will regardless wat u say
sonic bane
62_
@jolly novago spread it lol like virus that im lying
Go go try to post again
Are you afraid now to post to whole server? Come on
@jolly nova
versed girder
Familiar discussion.....
upper moat
The real travesty is that he uses light mode discord
glossy zodiac
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705342131782287450/706532877046906880/
what the fuck is wrong with you Edit: edited out last part of the pic so my eyes can survive
light mode??
glossy zodiac
I've gotten 2 epic atk jewels
a few blues
but 99.99% of the drops are common defense jewels or something like that
sonic bane
@elfin fibernot really sometime that monster give me 2 gold infantry and range
elfin fiber
Ok
normal timber
you need to tap/click on an enemy castle to use your attack on followed by the red dragon head. Also, make sure you have merged the correct skillstone for the familiar attack skill itself.
merry swan
The red dragon head next to attack/rally button
dreamy rampart
No i mean is this necessary that monster training will be at max to active familiar ?
normal timber
Familiars doesn't necessarily need to be at the maximum level in order to activate the attack skills. It can be used at any time depending on the skill's level. It's true that you'll need to increase the familiar's level beyond lv50 in order to get the skill's level to increase much further than Lv3 but it still can be used even if the skill's level is much lower than Lv10. However, I don't suggest to use one unless the attack skill is at or above lv7 and familiar is at level 57 or higher as the cooldown time is still quite high at lv5.
bleak crescent
Is there any way to get more Gryphon runes?
upper moat
Merge more pacts
sonic bane
@bleak crescentlol common sense
dreamy rampart
Lol
bleak crescent
loud condor
sacred oracle
Whose Army Talent is better? Pyris or Tempestite?
elfin fiber
blackwing is the wae
fading kraken
Top 3 fams for wall?
loud condor
Pyris is not bad. It is a key familiar to use for high hp wall in level 5 darknests.
Is there a YouTube clip that show bon Appeti in war? I think she is the counterpart of blackwing in infantry attack.
sacred oracle
Which Familiars from Pact 1-3 are best for defending? (I can only put 3 on the Wall)
proud marten
depends how many troops you have 🙂
also depends on what are you defending against 🙂
vestal rover
Morning! 😊 Just wondering what F2p familiars everyone is using for battle? I've maxed pyris and unlocked my second battle slot so need to decide who to work on lol
I'm only up to pact 3 familiars though
proud marten
Tempestite is nice ... and from Pact 3 you have Gryphon that's general
but that one requires Brilliant
for specific troop type you have the trio: TRickstar, gemming and Goblin, pick whatever troop type you want to focus on and max that out
viscid pelican
pyris
is absolute dogshit
it lasts for 10 seconds, those 10 seconds are mostly spend walking to hit the enemy, then killing the buffer
you might get 1 squad attack off during the buff that actually does something
and its 60% increase. not not multiplicatively
nono additive
so its more like 30% more damage
its actual garbage
dotn get baited
glossy zodiac
if the time wasn't wasted walking to the enemy I think it could be quite decent
but since that's the case no good reason to use it
vernal warren
Hello fam'! Ayman 23yo doctor and businessman, love the vibes over here, please dont hesitate to reach out would love to talk!👌🏻
twin vortex
Hello, im F2P Just done my first familiar aquiris on elder lvl 60, and was thinking, which familiar should i go for next.. any tips please?
limber glen
Depends what you want, check out all the familiars
I would recommend researching pact 3 quick and get trickstar and both goblins
twin vortex
I unlocked pact 3 already, so i should first focus on trickstar then goblins?
viscid pelican
trickstar
twin vortex
Thanks!
plain void
@vestal rover u haven't being talking in general chat lol
vestal rover
Sorry for the late reply completely forgot I asked over here 😅 well shit! Lol to be honest I'm used to wasting things on lords before cracking on how to do it most wisely lol. I'll work on gryphon and tempesite next then! I have more brilliant orbs than bright ones right now anyway lol
@plain void I know I've not been on here much though lol.. You missing me over there? 😋
plain void
Pretty much 
woven dagger
hey guys, f2p here, should I work on aquiris battle familiar or the 40% hp debuff fams?
normal timber
Aquiris for sure.
plush stratus
Aquiris 100% sure
plain void
im thinking of maxing first 3 or 4 pact familliars before moving to pact 2 ... or would this be a mistake
coral viper
I’m not that experienced but I think it better to just max aquiris on pact 1 and just move to pact 2
wise hare
Trickster best f2p familiar in the game with hell drider being a super close second imo
viscid pelican
well by getting pact 2
you are not getting trickstar
so youre valueing some pact 2 familiar over trickstar
which i think is dumb
hollow prawn
Hi everyone! In your opinion, which familiars are better to put on the walls? 
viscid pelican
aquiris, evil weevil. the 3 15% attack ones. if you're f2p or low spender
obivously big spenders put t5 fams in there
hollow prawn
Yes, I'm f2p. Thank you. So it's better reduce the PF enemy army and increase our PF army then increase the Attack for our 3 types of troops?
viscid pelican
i havent tested it personally, but yea i would think it is
hollow prawn
Ok thanks!! If anyone else has tried, let me know 😉
pine prism
What's the best familiar building set up for ct 21? Like how many spring gym and the spire
heady basalt
3 springs 3 spires rest gyms end up with 1 spire 2 gyms
Once you have pact 3 you start dripping springs
dusk igloo
@pine prism I would say just keep working on the c25 focus on that
And save gems for the p2p buildings
You will need 600k .gems and yeah you need those building maxed as soon as possible
Familiar buildings. Are secondary at the point of c 21
And only focus on aquarius until you max him
spiral fable
scarlet tide
Hi which familiar shud I max out 1st from pact 3?
proud marten
depends what you need/want
tricstar = holy stars, gemming gremlin = gems or goblin = gold 🙂
err: trickstar
trickstar gives holy stars that you can use in labyrinth and get both gems and gold if you are lucky ...
plus it has that wide range of gifts .... you can get up to 30.000 holy stars in one go ...
scarlet tide
@proud marten thanks
plain void
@dusk igloo 600k gems for which building?
glossy zodiac
battlehall, altar & prison
200k+golden hammer each
you need those (and one of each other building (excluding familiar buildings iirc) at 25 for academy 25
and you need that for all the good research
strong frigate
Started with familiars some days ago and got aquiris lol 20 now, only way to upgrade it is by getting aquiris 10times from pacts?
Been doing so many of those pacts and got runes for everything else except aquiris still 0 runes
halcyon furnace
yep
glossy zodiac
you need runes to upgrade past 20 and even more to get past 50
Been doing so many of those pacts
Not yet
you're going to need to do thousands of pacts for some familiars
aquiris (iirc) shouldn't even be more than maybe a thousand max?
dreamy rampart
Tell me how much gym, spring, and mistic must we have
normal timber
depends on what pact you want to merge. For pact 3 and above I'd recommend 5 springs, 2 gyms and 1 spire. For pact 1 and 2 I recommend 3 springs, 2 spires and 3 gyms so that once you are ready for pact 3 and 4 you can change a gym and spire out for springs. Some may recommend a a 3rd spire rather than a 3rd gym for pact 1 and 2 but it's only recommended if you aren't going to be on all the time.
somber barn
Guide abiut Good familiars in war and trap
valid plank
.-.
quaint tangle
Depends on your troop comp. Different familiars give different troop buffs.
next sierra
I have Trickster unlocked now and aquris is at level 8 and requires upgrading. Whom to focus?? Should I need to max out aquris first or straight away start focusing on trickster
quaint tangle
Trickster is a hero, do you mean trickstar?
twilit lark
Dude you know he is talking about trickstar bc this is a chanel for familiars. Also I don't k ow i am new to the game I have only just started getting familiars
coarse dock
I would go for Pact4 research while working on any of them. Tho if it's between those two it depends, I'd work on Aquiris first so I can work on my Heroes a bit quicker
normal timber
I'd say go for Aquiris because it takes a while to get the runes for Trickstar and since the skill is lv8 rather than Aquiris being at that level then maxing that out first would be a good choice STA wise. If Aquiris is at level 8 instead of the skill, then you must be doing something wrong by rushing straight to pact 3 way too soon.
plain void
btw how do i get runes
to up my familiar
since when i open pacts 1b etc i only get xp shit
plain void
What're some good generic non situational familiar battle skills to get for defense? Evil weevil and aquarius? What about a third
Or would I be better off doing the 3 familiars that increase 15% troop attack at start of battle
viscid pelican
gryphon
halcyon furnace
- gryphon is good for fort defense, castle defense gryphon is pretty bad
since you need to lose 10% of your troops
and it's not a specific troop type, 10% of total
@plain void
plain void
@halcyon furnace that makes sense. I'm stuck between doing evil weevil and aquarius, or doing the pact 1 that give 15% troop attack each. I don't spend money on orbs so they're hard to come by and my stats are only in the low/mid 300s so I'm wondering if the later would help for making sure rallies cap
halcyon furnace
yeah, weevil and aquarius are a no brainer, 100% worth
plain void
Okay cool thank you. I'll save up for those. I do have gryphon skill at lvl 3 already though. So that's 80% army attack if I lose 10%. Could be a decent safegaurd if shit goes wrong
halcyon furnace
yeah, and gryphon is still pretty good generic familiar for offense
so no harm building him
plain void
True. He's probably the only one I'd spend my t4/t5 orbs on anyway. Thank you for help!
loud condor
Hey, is the shield war talent for saberfang, hoarder good? Are they worth spending your brilliant talent orbs?
uneven echo
which familiar is good?
vague dew
All the paid ones
vague dew
Hey, is the shield war talent for saberfang, hoarder good? Are they worth spending your brilliant talent orbs?
@loud condor only spend on gryphon
Thats the best if you dont spend a lot
junior echo
^
viscid pelican
hell yea they are insane for wonder wars
opaque plank
should i get pact 2 familiars on adult stage or go for the pact 3? mention me with anwser pls
halcyon furnace
pact 2 to adult is pretty fast
you unlock their skill, and move on to pact 3
but elder is not worth, elder pact 2 you only get skill to 10 from 8(?)
pure aurora
@plain void I'd say Trickstar, Gemming Gremlin, Goblin, Totempest, Bonehead, Boulder and Sorcerer. These are from pacts 2 and 3
They help out your turf immensely
normal timber
don't forget Aquiris in that list lara. It gives free stamina every 8hrs for hero stages.
plain void
Once he is on lvl 60... Hard enough to get there :)
Lvl 47 and still 52 pacts needed to upgrade him to elder...
night tapir
Pyris too
ornate barn
More f2p familiars would make the game more interesting
normal timber
We never had any new ones for quite some time. Wonder when they are going to add Terrorthorn or similar? Maybe that is something someone should suggest.
weary latch
what's the use of familiars?
coarse dock
Can someone enlighten me why are there people building more than 1 Mystic Spire. Shouldn't it be just 1 Spire, 1-3 Gym, and the rest Springs for more Pact Merging efficiency?
Let's say if the player's new to Familiars, so they have zero progress on them
tender hinge
More anima ? Idk
abstract cipher
@pure aurora aquiris helps immensely as well, even if all your heros are gold and dont need the extra medals or anything for them, can get a lot of speeds from sweeping normal stage 7-18
pure aurora
Yep. 👍
plain void
Whether or not it is the norm, I personally found 3 spires, 3 pools and 2 gyms to work fine up until the middle of pack 3. 2 gyms exp cap'd my aquiris before I had the runes to move it to elder. 2 gyms also exp cap'd my trickstar, goblin, and gremlin, before I got the runes to move them to adult. 3 pools is sometimes in the red for max amount of lvl3 packs and I use a anima consumable.
coarse dock
@plain void If having 2 Gyms capped your Fams' level before getting the required Runes. Then it is and it should be better to have 1 Spire, 1-3 Gyms, & the rest are Springs for maximum/better merging efficiency for Pacts 
More anima ? Idk
@tender hinge I was trying to argue why people make more than 1 Spire
plain void
I fail to see how less pacts per day is more efficient when you need runes to advance stages before you need anima for skillstones
coarse dock
Uhh... actually you'll make more Pacts per day if you have more Springs cuz of their "Merging Speed Boost (Pacts)" stats
It's like Barracks x Manors... get more Manors for cheaper/lesser time to train Troops
Same as Spires x Springs... get more Springs for cheaper/lesser time to merge Pacts
To produce more in a day
plain void
Theoretically, I'm sure the extra 16% or 32% speed bonus would benefit someone, but for pact3 that puts it either when I am sleeping or when I am working, which means less pacts per day. 12 pacts in 2 days vs 18 pacts in 2 days. And 6 pacts doesn't reach hell tier 1 or solo tier 3 so it has even less of a benefit.
coarse dock
Ooh, so one of the reason why y'all make more than 2 Spires is just being busy in RL or just don't wanna be bothered to keep on loging in just for Pact merging, especially when it comes to Pact1s and 2s(?).
That's understandable then. I just thought that people thought making more Spires makes them more Pacts vs having more Springs
Tho I didn't understand the last bit you said, if you wanna do Solo and/or Hell (with/without Watcher) shouldn't you just work on them whenever they're available. If you're talking about like when the Pacts finished merging and the current task for Solo/Hell is Merge Pacts then get a random reward while you're away. That's just a 50/50 if the Solo/Hell is actually Merge Pact
hazy dove
Is it advisable to put all my heroes on one familiar while training or I should split the heroes?
hazy dove
Alright, thanks
molten girder
lucid cloak
What's the best f2p stage hero's
brisk sierra
Why my luck so shit
I finally need 2 more trickstar a till elder
The past 50 pact 3s I opened I got none
latent jewel
I still need 60 more for my pyris to be elder
plain void
Anyone know how much month research need to do for pact 4 ?
plain void
unless they changed it the base amount is 259 days 14:39:00 hours
untold junco
Which lvl 4 familiar is the best to awaken? I can only afford to awaken 1 familiar with brilliant talent orbs.
upper moat
Save your orbs for p2p familiars 
proud marten
not really ... saw Hoarder's attack skill at lvl 10 ... it's a beast
does a big diff. ...
and i'm sure same goes for Saberfang and Snow Beast
and they aren't p2p ...
untold junco
I see, how about gryphon? Is he any good compared to saberfang, hoarder or snow beast?
proud marten
it's apples vs oranges ...
if you're attacking with one troop type, saberfang, hoarder or snowbeast is the way to go ... depending on what troops are you sending
for defenses purposes for example, where you have all troop types ... gryphon is better ... but take into consideration in activates only when 10% of your troops have fallen ... so depending on how many troops you have ... it might not activate ...
delicate sapphire
apples vs oranges... cool
untold junco
Thanks for the useful information.
glossy zodiac
gryphon is, as far as I know, a great value familiar to awaken
compared to p2p familiars it's of course not nearly as strong but it'll work with anything unlike p2p familiars which only work with a specific troop types
coarse dock
Has there been an estimation on how many Tokens would it take to get a maxed out P2P Familiar from scratch?
viscid pelican
on bojangles acc i got 200 bon and bunny pacts from 7-8k ish tokens
pine prism
Basically,this skill allows you to get back the captured leader but you must use the skill in the first 30mins right?
upper moat
Yes, you have to get capped within 30 minutes of activating it for it to work
brisk sierra
i dont see how wasting 130k gems of chaos cores is a bad thing lol
heady basalt
Can you garrison troops and have gryphon skill work?
tiny python
i dont know anything about familiars.. is there a chart or guide on them somewhere
coarse dock
Yeah, but not here
glossy zodiac
Basically,this skill allows you to get back the captured leader but you must use the skill in the first 30mins right?
@pine prism The skill doesn't work if you use it after you get capped
It only works if it's used before
It's also pretty expensive to use which limits it for most people
pine prism
So i must to active this skill 30mins before the war ? Which mean the bad scenario is my leader get prisoned?
glossy zodiac
max 30min before you hit your target yes
Which usually means that if someone uses it and they don't get capped they'll go for a different target during the duration of the familiar
Since the 130k? gem cost means that not using the skill to the fullest is pretty wasteful
pine prism
@glossy zodiac yeah this skill cost too much lol
But kinda usefull for high profile player like baron emperor or overlords if they accidentally lose their leader
My bunny already max,i just wondering should i try the skill or better use other familiar skills
glossy zodiac
It's the single most powerful skill for leads
For anyone else it isn't too good though
nimble mauve
glossy zodiac
Just these and gryphon to go
Gryphon at 50 waiting for runes
*and p2p fams but we don't talk about those 
woven dagger
hey what would you max out first, goblin tier 3 skill or gemming gremlin tier 3 skill/
?
tight sandal
If not t4 then gems, if t4 and have enough troops, relos, etc then gold. You'll need gold to unlock t4 but if f2p you'll need those gems way more
deft egret
Man..those t4 researches finished all my gold. Just do as Carissa says
sinful widget
For good experience boost for familiar what do I need to do ? And also reduce time of training
crude sundial
glossy zodiac
If not t4 then gems, if t4 and have enough troops, relos, etc then gold. You'll need gold to unlock t4 but if f2p you'll need those gems way more
As mostly f2p the gold has been way more useful to me than anything else pact 3 has to offer
I'd go for gold, gremlin averages out to around 750 gems per day which isn't that valuable, especially after academy 25
familiar gear (?)
And gyms
For a second example
long surge
For a second example
Add Research to that as a third example, but gear by far is the answer @sinful widget is looking for
I'd go for gold, gremlin averages out to around 750 gems per day which isn't that valuable, especially after academy 25
Never thought I'd meet someone who thinks an extra 750 gems per day for free isn't "that valuable". Academy 25 is a milestone, yes, but anyone looking at the researches needed to unlock t4 and pact 4 knows if they're valuable or not 😜
Gold and Gems are both imp, but I'd probably focus on individual needs: someone might need gold more than gems, or vice versa, so act according to ur needs 😊
wise hare
I love my gemming gremlins I maxed him asap and he's paid me with over 300k gems so far
Sure it's not a lot each use but it only keeps adding up
glossy zodiac
Never thought I'd meet someone who thinks an extra 750 gems per day for free isn't "that valuable".
When compared to ~9m gold per day if you're training lots of troops/etc. the gold is generally going to be more useful
Although to be fair the gems could buy more gold than that
But rss availability isn't guaranteed, especially for lower might players
Gems, holy stars and gold are all helpful to have
but in my opinion if I had to pick just one of the familiars and I was just getting to a point where I could choose (e..g. fairly new player with low might) I'd definitely pick gold over the others
at the current point in the game that I'm in trickstar > gremlin > goblin but none of them make a particularly big difference
Training T4 (& high level research) takes quite a bit of gold(and this figure is with max t4 subsidies so 30% discount) so if you can't easily buy it goblin is very valuable
^^training a single 375k march of t4 takes 187,5m gold without subs
and most people should get 1m+ of each type
Which adds up to 1.5 billion gold
glossy zodiac
this feels so efficient
upper moat
scarlet tide
Hi where does the gryphon's skill air support max allied army size work, I do not see any difference in my rally size?
normal timber
The air support skill is only for when people send you reinforcements.
scarlet tide
Got it thanks@normal timber
proud marten
@glossy zodiac more efficient if you train 6 at a time =)))
proud marten
last 3 ? really ? that's great
glossy zodiac
I do also have gryphon at 50 (missing 40 runes) & p2p at 20
proud marten
i actually have runes for all of them to get to elder ... but i'm still behind on training A LOT
and yeah, gryphon had a bad drop rate ... i think pact 4 had better drop rates then gryphon ..
glossy zodiac
I just switched to pact 4 as soon as I got pact 3 runes for level 3s
proud marten
yeah, did the same thing all the way from pact 1 to 4 ... after i got runes for all pact 4s i went back and got runes for the rest of the pacts =))
good journey, hope i never have to do it again =))
plain void
What should my pact 4 progression be? Hoarder -> saberfang -> hell drider?
inner kernel
hoarder -> hell drider -> saberfang
mint plover
Quick questions... Ive got my aquiris to adult and is slowing going up ... should I get the runes for him first and then concentrate on other familiar. ? Newbie here
I’ve unlocked pacts 3. Should I change to any of them ? If so what order ?
coarse dock
If you wanna work on your Heroes faster, then go for Aquiris.
If not, just work on your Pact 3s. You'll get more benefits with Goblin, Gemming Gremlin, & Trickstar's Fam Skills
Also what you can do is work on your Pact3s regularly, and when there's a Merge Pact GFest Quest you could switch to Pact1s
@mint plover
mint plover
Will do that thanks 😃👍🏻
plain void
Question here how should you push your research. Is it full economy then Max monster Hunt and then working on your familiar or What order should it be?
night tapir
@plain void that depends entirely on what your goals are. There's many paths and no one right way to do it.
lyric willow
How many runes do I need to take Huey pops familiar to elder
And also I kinda have familiars from pact one and two but I would love to deal with Huey familiar is it a great idea
Please tag me when replying
coarse dock
How many runes do I need to take Huey pops familiar to elder
@lyric willow all Rarity5 and P2P Familiars needs 226 Runes
keen flare
Lol
unborn surge
glossy zodiac
Why would you get those 
bright mantle
sonic bane
Lol that a fun made Photoshop
raw rune
Does anyone have a chart of how much experience is need to train up the rarity 5 familiars , I’m trying to some planning
normal timber
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nn5OEgXyeVeiGSQsgEYyoiw0KCMPNAyT9N5zB6QMj-4/edit?usp=drivesdk - There you go. I'm still trying to get permission before releasing a image-based one that I have made from it's creator.
thick marsh
robust bay
Could anyone let me know how much brilliant talent orb is needed to max Gryphon war talent??
Also is it worth more than pact 4 familiars? As f2p should I start using brilliant talent orb for Gryphon or pact 4 will be more helpful for me?
glossy zodiac
gryphon is great value
raw rune
Thank you very much
ruby widget
what does the prison break on Hell Drider do?
like does it get your leader to escape or what?
brave parcel
@ruby widget 1 out of 10 times ur leader gets captured while attacking, it will escape
ruby widget
Ahhhh thank you very much for your info
plucky flint
What's the most efficient way to use fragments?
coral shadow
Once a day
glossy zodiac
yup
Usually you'd want to use as many as you can sustain or alternatively save a bunch for some easy GF quests (although low points)
rapid moth
1 day left on pact 2
glossy zodiac
0 days left on pact 2
jolly berry
anyone know the quickest way to get a familiar to elder quick ?
brisk sierra
Buying the xp pack
Also buy tons of pact 5 and shatter the runes
Get a good bit of fragments that way
glossy zodiac
Also buy tons of pact 5 and shatter the runes
hmmmmmmm
brisk sierra
Never said it was cost efficient
bitter cedar
get territe maxed it helps in the long run
coral basalt
delicate sapphire
why do familiars hate me
tiny comet
Familiars hate everyone because they were hated at the start.
delicate sapphire
💯
elder trellis
What pact 3 familiars should I focus on
Currently thinking
Gemming > Trickstar > goblin > nocreos
I don’t really need gryphon so ima just skip him
kindred siren
trickstar > gemming > goblim > noceros
you need gryphon... not now maybe but later you will feel its need
mellow locust
gryphon is good when you need all troops back from long marches. Example troops returning from 5 forts, u can shave it to 6 seconds if you have to port and zero a target
tiny comet
Trickstar is best for sure out of those. Then gemming and goblin. If you have bad gold problems though do goblin before gemming. Then noceros and gryphon after that. Gryphon may seem kinda useless but there have been times where i've been glad to have that ability ready to go.
Reason why trickster
crude sundial
focus on this 3, max them before work in any other
bitter cedar
i beg to differ. focus on pact 1 territe and aquiris. then those 3.
glossy zodiac
Trickstar is best for sure out of those. Then gemming and goblin. If you have bad gold problems though do goblin before gemming. Then noceros and gryphon after that. Gryphon may seem kinda useless but there have been times where i've been glad to have that ability ready to go.
Gryphon, imo, seems like one of, if not the most useless familiar
which is why it's the last familiar (outside of p2p ones) that I'm working on
i beg to differ. focus on pact 1 territe and aquiris. then those 3.
those 3 are better than those 2 and what you said doesn't answer the question asked at all
hallow glen
How many speeds does it cost to unlock 2nd fam slot
Never mind that shit is pinned my dudes
bitter cedar
those 3 are better than those 2 and what you said doesn't answer the question asked at all
@glossy zodiac
simple i wasnt answering the questions. i was just pointing out what should be focused on. instead of rushing pact 3. rush pact 1 those 2fam and you will get those 3 and other familiar even faster. why? because territe increase merge speed and gives fragments which are necessary for leveling familiar skill. whereas aquiris gives STA to level your heroes grade by sweeping medals. essentially helping in the training of familiar whereby you put your heroes to train the familiar in the gym. higher grade heroes help in every aspect of the game. but suit yourself if you wanna rush pact 3. its just a different playstyle.
glossy zodiac
simple i wasnt answering the questions. i was just pointing out what should be focused on. instead of rushing pact 3
The issue with this is that the pact 3 familiars are better than what you're suggesting
Even a maxed territe only gives minimal benefits and better grade heroes don't particularly help with leveling familiars after you can get 8h+ training time
bitter cedar
it depends on the number of gyms
also pact 3 is after so many research
if you have plenty of time and dont mind changing gears. you could build 4 gyms to train 4 familiars at the same time if you have the better grade /many heroes. you wont have to reset them as often.. but you can also do 2 gyms. where you only train 2 a time. or just 1 if you lazy to switch it often. but still more gym = faster training. because training in parallels yield more exp in total especially during the special event where exp is increased.
elder trellis
@kindred siren I thought Trickstar gives you 10 holy starts all the time lol
Does It actually give good drops?
kindred siren
yeah minimum is 100 stars and you get those most of the time but if you see and value the amount of holy stars you get monthly, that's always a lot
elder trellis
Oh thanks idk why I had the idea that it gives the 10 stars drop
Thanks
Ima start with Trickstar / gemming
glossy zodiac
Usually a max trickstar gives at least 1,2k holy stars in my experience
Not too uncommon to see 1k drops and even 10ks aren't that rare
I've only gotten 2x10k a couple times though so those seem to be quite rare
plucky flint
Is there a more efficient way to train familiars? Currently I only have 1 gym since the only heroes I have are the f2p ones including Boom, plus Dream and Centaur from limited challenges
proud marten
the more gyms, the better for training
the more you split heroes among familiars and train them at the same time the better
i'm done with shards so i demolished all the springs and i now have 6 gyms ... to give you a example, if i would assign all heroes to only 1 familiar i would get about 16330 EXP / day
if i split my heroes and train 6 familiars at a time, i get a combined ~ 37800 EXP / day
the times you need to restart the training will be more often but it pays out in EXP ...
plucky flint
I see, so time doesn't affect the exp gained?
past rune
i think it's more that the time used by training with split heroes is more effective
because i used to have just 1 gym as well and got like 1.2k exp for the familiar after the session was over. after i got a 2nd gym tho i split my heroes to about half and got rougly the same amount/day but for both familiars
plucky flint
Oooh I see, guess its time for me to knock down a spring before I get to the next castle level
glossy zodiac
I see, so time doesn't affect the exp gained?
Well 2x time = 2x xp
But since xp/hero is a logarithmic function splitting heroes to multiple familiars makes more sense than keeping them all in one
vivid remnant
thick marsh
kindred siren
does anybody know what is the minimum amount of tomes required to open familiar battle slot 4?
Also a screenshot of minimum amount of researches required for the same would be appreciated.
kindred siren
great thank you👍
surreal finch
Are the shield fams(saberfang etc) better than the 3 stacking ones(trickster etc) ?
mellow locust
different purpose
glossy zodiac
generally no
surreal finch
Thanks!
hallow glen
at which point should i go from 5 gyms to 5 springs? 
i still have a few familiars i need to level but the most important ones are all lv60
glossy zodiac
I'm running 6 gyms and I have 4 familiars left to work on
I'm gonna go full springs when I don't need xp
But before that the extra xp is helpful especially since the familiars aren't exactly low tiers
thick marsh
wintry valley
My familiar has reached adult but the system is still requesting for boost to get to elder, I got over a hundred ruins, yet it's saying I need more and occasionally they get reduced. Can anyone help me out?
brisk sierra
Help about
ember gulch
Then boost it when it’s reduced and get it to elder
mellow locust
what's the good comp for familiar buildings after you have all pacts maxed out in fragment?
eg: 3 springs, 5 gyms, 1 spire (just for fragment) etc
is it a good method to raise familiar skill xp from the gym?
coarse dock
what's the good comp for familiar buildings after you have all pacts maxed out in fragment?
@mellow locust you mean maxed out runes? and also you mean you have enough runes to upgrade to elder stage?
mellow locust
oh yeah, maxed out runes sorry
coarse dock
All ready to elder? also for Pact4s?
Well anyways, i did my Fam buildings set this way...
Getting Rune requirements for all Familiar (Pact1-4):
- 1 Spire, 2 Gyms, 5 Springs
Then i switched to:
- 1 Spire, 6 Gyms, 1 Springs
(just level them all upto Lv60)
Soon, I'm about to reach all Fams to Lv60 so i'll be switching to:
- 1 Spire, 0 Gyms, 7 Springs
(pretty much just to get extra Runes to level up their Skills, then will be focusing more on merging Skillstones)
@mellow locust
mellow locust
yes all ready to elder
pact 4
Then i switched to:
- 1 Spire, 6 Gyms, 1 Springs
(just level them all upto Lv60)
this sounds good
coarse dock
is it a good method to raise familiar skill xp from the gym?
@mellow locust iirc, merging enough Runes is better than using Fragments
mellow locust
@mellow locust iirc, merging enough Runes is better than using Fragments
@coarse dock yes, i also think so. thanks for the suggestion, i know which way to go now.
coarse dock
mellow locust
viscid moth
plain void
Thinking about getting the 3 15% attack familiars at the beginning of the battle instead of the 40% hp decrease. I wanna do this because when you get rallied, people only send one troop type, so if they send inf only, only the inf -40% hp familiar is getting used. The cav and range debuff is useless. When using the 3 attack familiars, you're stats are utilized no matter what is sent at you. Is this fair reasoning?
Tag me with what you think
night tapir
@plain void with everything I think? Or just relevant to your question? 😂
proper scaffold
I am F2P player.. With castle level 22..
How can I make my pact 3 familiars to max fast....
Any suggestions
glossy zodiac
stop being f2p 
night tapir
Watts on second
visual sluice
I have made all my pact 3 familiars to elders..
its waste for me to do pact 3 cost reduction research...
@proper scaffold keep training them.....
glossy zodiac
its waste for me to do pact 3 cost reduction research...
You need that for pact 4 though
sinful timber
😭😭😭
plain void
Which is most usable familiar in pact 4
coarse dock
Saberfang, imo
normal timber
You'd use mostly Saberfang, Hell Drider or Hoarder the most however, you could use Snow Beast but it's not going to be used so much than the others if you are fighting. Grim Reaper is a no-no since it costs a lot to use a single skillstone.
plain void
@normal timber thanks
glossy zodiac
Snow beast is great when you need to send RSS
but Hoarder > Hell Drider > Saberfang > Snow Beast should be the usual order of doing things
maybe Saberfang before Hell Drider dependign on how long the runes take
brisk sierra
no love for reaper 
brisk sierra
eh only like $30 of gems
hybrid flame
Good night all. Do fam researches that gives attack, hp, defense also work for the defense of turf, when familiar are placed on the wall?
hybrid flame
Thanks @pliant plank
pliant plank
thick marsh
brisk sierra
Gryphon
elder trellis
coarse dock
Tempestite
brisk sierra
Gryphon is a pact 3 fam tho
glossy zodiac
Gryphon is a pact 3 fam tho
But not exactly a t3 one
dense hinge
Don't put gryphon on wall I took 3m red and it didn't proc
coarse dock
brisk sierra
elder trellis
Don't put gryphon on wall I took 3m red and it didn't proc:PepeLaugh:
@dense hinge don’t put any familiar that needs fallen troops to activate
dense hinge
Only one I have awakened
pliant plank
dense hinge
coarse dock
brisk sierra
thick marsh
thick marsh
coral basalt
pliant plank
coral basalt
thick marsh
Dammn when did you boost? You were 22m last time
glossy zodiac
Max this familiar. Worth it
@tiny comet you should max it yourself
celest eagle
Which familiar i need to use in my wall
coarse dock
quartz relic
build a wall
coarse dock
If you've got tons of troops
lunar stag
well, like their name states..... THEY COST ELEVEN THOUSAND FUCKING DOLLARS
brisk sierra
no ones going to pay full price
lunar stag
thats why now people just buy accounts with 11k heroes
(buying accounts is against TOS not saying that i ever bought one just saying that people do and theres no wat to stop it) 😉
upper moat
They're also not 11k to buy It's around 5k if you use amazon coins and then buy it on a bus and then sell the gems
It's only 11k if you're a 
pliant plank
thick marsh
hazy dove
They're also not 11k to buy
@upper moat Why do you need to buy it on a bus?
upper moat
people pay to be on the bus and you get more money back that way
thick marsh
coarse dock
With this Familiar Set and 1 Gym (just to focus 1 Fam) it'll take you roughly 2 months from scratch
@sick gale
And for it's 3rd skill... idk(?) probably another 2 months? with only 1-4 clicks?
I'm really sure about the Fam Skills
thick marsh
sick gale
1 gym? To replace for springs for merging speed? Cuz I have 3 gyms
That's sentence is so broken but I guess you understood it anyway xd
coarse dock
Having more Gyms would surely decrease the amount of days that you'll get it to Lv60... but back when i was doing my Hoarder only had 1 Gym, just because i wanted to get required Pacts for all the Pact5 Fams like Hell Drider
So not sure how long it would take for having more Gyms
coarse dock
Plus if you decided to have a full Gym but still focusing 1 Fam (inefficient, but faster)
sick gale
Does it make sense to go full springs and hardcore merge for some time?
sick gale
It's basically like barracks and manors
pliant plank
Yep
coarse dock
Went full Springs, 1 Spire, 1 Gym... just for the Pact requirements (and Watcher Merge )
Then now i'm in full Gyms working on all my Fams
I'm close to going back to full Springs tho, i'm almost done with my Fams
thick marsh
I think I took around 3 months total
You're 42m
sick gale
How long have you played?
thick marsh
coarse dock
Technically it's 4yrs, but i quit playing when i was still in early game
Then i came back for whatever reason
I shouldve stayed away, it wouldve prevent me from spending around $1k
I mightve been my part time job that made me play again and spend 
sick gale
Hehe
pliant plank
You're 42m
Shut up gen
sick gale
How long time does it take to merge 9 pact4? With max springs, in your gear @coarse dock
coarse dock
Oh, i dont have max springs anymore it's been half a year already since i had them 
Right now with Fam set, i takes me that much to merge 13 pacts
With max Springs maybe around 16-20 hrs(?)
I dont really remember
sick gale
I see you got magus
coarse dock
Yih
sick gale
I have slightly less merging speed than you
Got 107
Are all those jewels just for the heck of it?
coarse dock
Yeah they're just for the memes
But they could be useful if i'm away with fam gear, makes my wall and traps op
sick gale
True, true. In the future they might add jewels for the familiar section of the game
coarse dock
I doubt there would be any Fam related Jewels. Since i feel like having Mythic Fam set is enough for people to work on their Fams (even from scratch)
sick gale
Ye you're probably right, they shouldn't make it easier
coarse dock
Yeah the stats are quite good enough, idk
sick gale
Oh you use dressing room
Teach me pls I think the whole map is a mess
I don't understand
sick gale
Appf
App* dammit
Is it because the app is useless unless you buy it for 1buck?
I see no gear anywhere
coarse dock
You should be able to see half of the gear
The left side of the gear is open for free, and right side you'll need to pay for the $1 vip access
pliant plank
@sick gale
My gear is gold except mainhand
Yes gen
I have gold gear on a 43m acc
thick marsh
Shut up gen
True
sick gale
Noice.. Maybe I need to buy some voodo packs
thick marsh
sick gale
And how much time does it take to merge the same amount pact 3?
coarse dock
Wait are you in full Springs
sick gale
So it take more time than pact 2, that's nice
thick marsh
Pact 3 takes 1d 3h to merge for me
sick gale
9pact 2 take 9 hours for me, can't go any lower cuz I sometimes sleep longer
I'll tear down the gyms then. Don't need it anymore anyway, got all important ones already, territe aquarius etc
coarse dock
Oh i guess i only had 9 Pact Merging space at that time and that's why ive been remembering somewhere between 16-20hrs
My bad
thick marsh
Kapi, I can merge 18 pacts at a go.. is it bad?
coarse dock
It's fine for Pact1s
thick marsh
I do pact 3s
coarse dock
And Pacts 2 as well, i guess
pliant plank
coarse dock
Yea I'm in full springs
Oh
pliant plank
coarse dock
I do pact 3s
@thick marsh how long does 18 Pacts take
thick marsh
1day 4hrs
coral basalt
My gear shit 😦
elder trellis
16 hours for 11 pacts hehe
pliant plank
coarse dock
1day 4hrs
It's alright, but i would go for 1 Spire instead. I'm assuming once you take down that Spire and replace it with another Spring that may bring closer to roughly 13hrs per 9 Pact3s
thick marsh
sick gale
Wich is the most powerful familiar to use in dn?
glossy zodiac
it's the same as any other blast
So p2p fams + stacking + whatever else you use in blasts
viscid pelican
P2p, 100%, gryphon, shield fam
sick gale
how long time would it take to max gryphon as f2p?
glossy zodiac
how long time would it take to max gryphon as f2p?
you shouldn't be attempting it f2p
pliant plank
The $20 one with 100 brilliant orbs
sick gale
is there a chart somewhere that shows all the needed orbs for the different familiars?
brisk sierra
It’s ok hephbot
violet fulcrum
anybody have a list on familiars? like the attacking ability from best to worst?
upper moat
violet fulcrum
@upper moat do u have smth that involves with like the stats? like which ones are the best but a list
upper moat
except replace the hp familiar with the shield familiar
violet fulcrum
thank youuu
upper moat
also those aren't in any particular order...it's just what's most commonly used for 1-type hits
If you don't want to pay for shield fams, you can put in the hp fams instead
violet fulcrum
what abt mix?
upper moat
3x 600% fams, gryphon, and the 2nd p2p fam for your weakest stat
violet fulcrum
thank you
sick gale
is that something that comes in some update?
brisk sierra
how you play the game and not know pact5 fams
sick gale
is that some dollar only ones?
brisk sierra
$5 for 5 or tycoon
sick gale
I knew they existed but didnt know they were referred to as pact5
I even have some of them
glossy zodiac
I knew they existed but didnt know they were referred to as pact5
some refer to them as that yeah
I just refer to them as p2p fams
brisk sierra
thick marsh
tranquil hornet
Best familiars to defend with excluding aquiris and evil weevil ?
untold patio
HP reduction fams
brisk sierra
wheres songstress tho
coarse dock
Oh idk, it's not mine
coarse dock
I wish it is
pliant plank
coarse dock
It's not mine, it's flippy's 
coarse dock
Flippynips titties
pliant plank
tranquil hornet
@coarse dock thanks :)
coarse dock
thick marsh
glossy zodiac
why would pact merging speed III take less time than II
Because they're in different trees
research length growing as you go further only applies within a single tree, not between different ones
pretty simple
sick gale
Makes sense
jovial dagger
What's the best building layout for familiars?
coarse dock
Pact 1-2: 2 Spire, 1-3 Gyms, the rest Springs
Pact3-4: 1 Spire, 1-3 Gyms, the rest Springs
@jovial dagger
jovial dagger
Thanks @coarse dock
coarse dock
jovial dagger
Umm
I'm currently working on pact 1, 3× spire, 3× gym, rest springs and I can merge 22 in 15 hours, which seems perfect because it doesn't force me to log in too often🤔
coarse dock
If you can Lv25 Spires, then i'd go for just 2 Spires. I think that would give you like 18 Pact Merging in 12hours
So that still force you to login all the time, that could pretty much log you in 2-3 times a day
sick gale
Starting a new merge literally takes 2 seconds
jovial dagger
I can only get them to 24 for now
marsh bramble
How many archaic tomes takes to get familiar IV battle slot unlocked?
brisk sierra
Less than 10k
coral basalt
3k I think
coarse dock
3335 to be exact
digital ravine
What's better for training familiars? All heroes for 1 familiar or spreading the heroes out to multiple familiars?
pliant plank
I spread mine between 2
plain void
I use all my heroes on one familiar
To me it gets that familiar to elder quick and I can move to the next one
bleak crescent
Same.
elder trellis
Doing 2 at the same time is way better unless you want to train 1 very badly
For pact 3 I do gemming + trickster at the same time
hazy dove
I spread mine between 2
@pliant plank What are you spreading?
dense hinge
brisk sierra
śłüt
pliant plank
thick marsh
plain void
What familiars would you guys recomend for a t2 solo trap. Currently have 3 familiar slots unlocked but only familiars from pact 1, didn't unlocked pact 2 yet, trying to stay as low might as possible. Don't have many orbs since that's a f2p account. I plan on defending in range phalanx since most people in my kingdom tend to attack people lower than 100m with cav.
My gear is Mithic Lunar Scimitar, Purple Frostwing Sword, Blue Bumblehelm, Blue Firewall Plate, Blue Dragon Tallons, Purple Burning Scroll, Blue Cup and Green Cup, every single gear has blue mix jewels.
My comp is 9m t2, 3m each troop type.
plain void
I can only get a green blight ring atm... is still worth it ?
coral viper
Cup > blight ring at same tier
But I think u should just dismantle cup and work for 1 cup and 1 ring instead
glossy zodiac
and waste the 65 grey halos
there's the what, 25% chance to get those back
brisk sierra
or just keep the cup and work on it after
marsh bramble
but 75% chance to lose them
inner kernel
dont dismantle cups you need 9 mythic cups
brisk sierra
coarse dock
For F2P/low spender?
- Weevil
- Aquiris
- Stacking ones
- Tempestite
- the Troop ATK ones
- the Troop Debuff HP ones
- the Troop HP ones
Gryphon (whenever you have Yellow Orbs)
Pretty much what i think is good in order, someone might give a better advice
elder trellis
Definitely start with weevil / aqua they’re best for wall imo
tame blade
Troop debuff hp are best for the wall, esp if you can slot just the one that counters
Almost 3x as effective as aquirius. Half as expensive but youd want all 3
elder trellis
Why is Debuff better?
tame blade
Aquirius is a 15% army hp debuff
Jaziek magmalord are 40% hp debuff
Terraspike is the other
People attack with 1 type... so 40% debuff on that type is better than 15% on any type
Weevil is obv priority also. And if you can only do 2 then aquirius is more well rounded
elder trellis
Well I’d rather increase my own hp by 15% than decrease enemies hp since my stats will be less than the rally lead I’m facing
coral basalt
If I sit in ranged wedge aquiris and inf debuff good?
wary mantle
Are those hp ones really better than the attack stack ones like Trickstar?
coral basalt
Trickster is bad for wall
Only when 10% of ur troops die it activates
So basically useless
wary mantle
Only? That’s awesome. 100% stack each time at max
brisk sierra
Yea at the cost of 10% of your troop type
coral basalt
Only? That’s awesome. 100% stack each time at max
@wary mantle umm
When ur defending
U want to lose as less troops as possible
When ur attacking it’s different
coral basalt
Yeah I’m talking abt defending
coral basalt
Goodnight
brisk sierra
night night
tame blade
Well I’d rather increase my own hp by 15% than decrease enemies hp since my stats will be less than the rally lead I’m facing
@elder trellis
Yeah I'd do weevil first. I was just comparing them with aquirius
mighty wharf
For F2P/low spender?
- Weevil
- Aquiris
- Stacking ones
- Tempestite
- the Troop ATK ones
- the Troop Debuff HP ones
- the Troop HP ones
Gryphon (whenever you have Yellow Orbs)
@coarse dock tahnks :)
Going through all messages
coarse dock
thick marsh
coral viper
I just maxed aquiris first because of the extra stamina
coral basalt
I maxed aquiris first it took me 2 months lmfao
I don’t have many orbs prob not gonna do weevil for a while
thick marsh
sick gale
kapitan why didnt you list territe on that familiar list
brisk sierra
army defense is useless
quartz relic
dense hinge
Army defense is great use a 70% when getting rallied
brisk sierra
thick marsh
coarse dock
peak flicker
fading marlin
Harpy is thicc
@peak flicker ah, I see you are a fellow connoisseur of fine women
glossy zodiac
green moss
I would slap harpys ass my guy
unborn surge
coarse dock
Idk what's so special about Terraspike, but you should work on getting Pact 3s & 4s
And/or atleast actually work on Familiars that would actually benefit you in Pact 1s & 2s
unborn surge
I use rAnge a lot n often hit inf
coarse dock
unborn surge
TwT I need help with which ones I should work on
coarse dock
unborn surge
.-. Gonna take me a few months just to get blackwing lv3
thick marsh
2 years to get 30 medals
thick marsh
XD
tiny siren
nice XD
glossy zodiac
quartz relic
are those pact one familiars that give the 15 percent atk for each troop type worth to spend red orbs on
or should i save those for better fams
coarse dock
Use them on Weevil & Aquiris first
quartz relic
ok
coral basalt
Depends @quartz relic
If ur gonna do pact 3
U can use them for the stacking ones if looking for attacks
If defending then aquiris and weevil
tame blade
If you have 4+ slots consider terraspike jaziek magmalord or whatever the -40% hp ones are
tame blade
I have 4 slots
3 can swing it also it just can be a little more awkward bc you will want to swap out for the one that counters
Dedicated low might traps may still want them even at only 2 slots
cinder pulsar
brisk sierra
buy the $20 pack
coral basalt
Oof not even one 34? Lol
quartz relic
Btw I doubt chus got 2nd slot
@coral basalt that may be true
coral basalt
tame blade
Just in case this matters, your familiar level is capped by player level also. Any chance you arent lvl 34 yet? 
quartz relic
coral basalt
Just in case this matters, your familiar level is capped by player level also. Any chance you arent lvl 34 yet? :FrogeConcern:
@tame blade I doubt he will have fams lol at lvl34
thick marsh
hazy dove
Might purchase T5 fams
viscid pelican
plain void
dim escarp
shut meteor
any suggestions on how many spires, gyms and springs i should build and what are the best familiars?
i'm a f2p player
shut meteor
at the beginning 1 gym 2 spires, rest springs
thats what I built
@tired shore ok thanks
glossy zodiac
build as many gyms as you can use
you don't want to have training take like 2 hours but you don't want it to take days either (since it's way less efficient), generally having 9 or so heroes per familiar is a good split if you can 1. train that many familiars and 2. do that while not having the training time be too short
15 runes to go 
hazy dove
Noob
glossy zodiac
I know, not having these maxed by now is so bad
coral viper
I forgive you for not having them maxed but make sure to get it maxed soon next time I might not be as nice
thick marsh
Blackwing
glossy zodiac
I barely remember to train my familiars every few days I'm not making much progress
tame blade
I'm bad about refreshing fams on time but a few days?!
And you said don't have the train times too short in your advice. I think maybe you'd benefit from only 1 gym
tame blade
Idk if you're being sarcastic but there is a point where 1 spire 1 spring rest gyms is ideal
coarse dock
I'm currently on that stage
Hopefully by the end of year i'll be able to finish leveling up all fams
Except P2Ps 
tame blade
I'm also on that stage 
If you do p2ps with tycoon you will get enough elixirs to level them quite a bit
coarse dock
GFest + Bargain store is my only source for getting Elixirs, i cant rely on Tycoon anymore
dense hinge
tame blade
My last tycoon run of 2500 tokens gave 115 elixirs
I mean its not a ton but I'm not done with the pacts anyway. I'm just leveling huey and bon in gym to 50 and hoping the elixir drops carry me the rest
I checked in the other discord and only need about 150k from lvl 50 to 60. My 4354 tokens have given me 420k. More than enough already
twin vortex
Is it better to unlock pact 4 and Max TT deposit or go for t4?
coarse dock
I'd go for Pact4s first, just because it takes so long to level them up
coral basalt
He doesn’t even have t4
Dude if he’s not done pact 1&2&3 Atleast the important ones
Pact 4s a waste
glossy zodiac
pact 4 is better than everything except maybe pact 3 depending on if you need the things (like gold) from it
sinful widget
What does pact familiar holds?
brisk sierra
What?
glossy zodiac
^^
sick gale
its hard to resist the urge to click use fragments more than once a day
thick marsh
Meh I uses mine till I'm out
Then trash some pact 3 familiars medals to fragments and continue
willow dew
hey guys i have a question
which familiar (other than pyris) give permanent kills to enemy troops even when your enemy is shielded? Is there any?
thick marsh
Oh wow
glossy zodiac
which familiar (other than pyris) give permanent kills to enemy troops even when your enemy is shielded? Is there any?
Grim reaper does, the problem is that the ability costs like 190k gems to use and it doesn't kill that many troops even when maxed. Queen Bee (which is a p2p familiar) can also send enemy troops to the infirmary but that also costs around the same to use
are pact 3 worth going for
Yes? Pact 3 is like the best value pact there is
glass mist
Yes? Pact 3 is like the best value pact there is
@glossy zodiac okay, should i boost to it? i have 18 days speed ups rn
im like lvl 2 anima harvest lvl 1 pact merge discount for pact 2 and anima 2
so im like a quarter there
i also have like 100 1 hour merge pacts
glossy zodiac
For someone your size boosting research probably isn't a bad idea
and 18 days isn't that much even if it wasn't worth it which it should be
glossy zodiac
That's your decision to make
glass mist
ok
i feel like its going to profit me
im gonna do it
:))
should i pop a research boost @glossy zodiac ?
glossy zodiac
I'd recommend waiting for helps between each research assuming you need to do multiple
in which case a research boost isn't that helpful
hazy dove
Just search for open Chinese guilds with similar names in your kingdom. If they are open, free helps in seconds
thick marsh
Like guild OOOOOOO
glass mist
Smart
shut meteor
guys where do i hired familiars? I have Engineer at level 20 adult stage but i don't understand how can i use his skill