THE ACOLYTE

[narrow lotus]

Yes, and Kylo Ren was the last Ren. He still used a first name with it. Qimir could very well be, or become, Qimir Ren.

[potent cape]

yeah

I just feel like if it was a Ren at the time he would've said I'm called Ren, rather than I have no name

but he could become, so that's fair

[narrow lotus]

Having knowledge of the Sith code doesn't make any of that mutually exclusive either

[potent cape]

the knights also call the force 'shadow'

so some knowledge would've had to be lost

Ren is neat tho

would like to see more of him

and them

[tight sierra]

Repeated gauntlet punches and pommel whacks will do that

[light ermine]

the helmet is also clearly very old and repaired multiple times

[hoary star]

Star Wars discourse feels a lot like the discourse of people saying that speedrunners hate the games that they play

[proud notch]

"no one hates star wars more than star wars fans"

Also

Helmet is more bronze than black if the toy is to be believed

[hoary star]

it was more bronze in the show IMO, we've just only seen it in super dark scenes

[potent cape]

makes sense.

It looks familiar

but I can't think of what it's reminding me of

[weary sable]

It vaguely reminds me of Ultimate Sith Edition Starkiller for whatever reason?

[proud notch]

I can see that

I always like his sith stalker design

New merch guys

[hoary star]

ah damn, haven't beaten the game on PC so I can't grab the costume

[near hornet]

Abeloth maybe

[potent cape]

Oooooo maybe, but not quite what it's reminding me of

might not even be from star wars LMAO

[proud notch]

Yeah and his lightsaber has bronze specs in it, which I like

[proud notch]

Kinda reminds me of Payday masks

[proud notch]

YES

That one

That's the best costume by far

His Hoth design is cool too but his Sith Stalker design is superior in my opinion

[vast plank]

I FUCKING KNEW IT

[vast plank]

gonna go hit arms real quick

then gonna cosplay as this sexc beast

Qimir? More like Sexy, Stupid, Sith

[proud notch]

Qiminion rise up

[potent cape]

I'm assuming Qimir is a cover name, so I wonder what his real (and sith) name is

[proud notch]

I have a friend who wants to cosplay Jecki 😭

[vast plank]

Darth Swolus

[proud notch]

Good design, glad he has a hot toys figure, still wish that Sith Stalker armor had more love

[empty minnow]

Gonna be honest, I think I'm tired of Mae lol

[hoary star]

her entire characterization so far has been psychopathic murder child

[empty minnow]

Yeah I totally get that but she's just really not hitting it for me lol

[hoary star]

oh I wasn't disagreeing with you. it's extremely one note

[potent cape]

Very abusive dialogue she has

[empty minnow]

I do think Sol will realize she's not Osha

Like before she attacks him

[hoary star]

maybe, he was in total shock and didn't pick up on the very bad attempt to be Osha

[dusty condor]

anyone got a half decent pic at the strangers saber?

[weary sable]

#saber-showcase message

Here's most of the sabers we see in the show:

[honest portal]

Iron Man helmet meets xenomorph mouth?

It feels like Abeloth's mouth, too.

[hoary star]

Sith stalker needed to fuck up the arms more

[dusty condor]

is this his?

or is it kelnaccas

i think it’s kelnaccas ngl

[weary sable]

That's his I believe.

[dusty condor]

bet

[proud notch]

Imagine Manny Jacinto cosplaying the Sith Stalker armor

[proud notch]

We didn't get pics of kelnacca's in that case of sabers, but we can see the saber in a lot of cast pictures

It's got some like rose gold in it

[hoary star]

I just don't care... I'm not a horny teenager

[proud notch]

Valid

The arms would be so yolked though

[hoary star]

I thought Kelnacca's was the last saber in that collection

[proud notch]

The sabers on display are Jecki, Indara, Sol, Yord, Qimir, and Vernestra Rwoh's

In no particular order

In order: Jecki, Vern, Yord, Indara, Qimir, and Sol

Based on the linked chat Nonemi provided

[cosmic siren]

I’m kind of loving the thing people are pissed about this time around. A lot of people are showing they don’t know what cortosis is XD

[weary sable]

LOL

[empty minnow]

Damn even Carly King is calling the nitpickers out.
https://x.com/bigdaddyankee/status/1805815351416176942?t=LhClDvBG9n6iZDL-cv31SA&s=19

carly king (@bigdaddyankee) on X

“they couldn’t sense the sith????!!!”

obi-wan kenobi & qui-gon jinn couldn’t sense maul behind a DOOR.

Twitter · Jun 26, 2024, 4:08 AM

[hoary star]

there's no reason for people to know what cortosis is...

[empty minnow]

No but its cool as hell

[hoary star]

I agree, but assuming the vast majority of people are consuming every little star wars thing is folly

[empty minnow]

Now the real question is why there isn't a Cortosis 101 class in the Temple

[hoary star]

these are the real questions

[empty minnow]

Come on Yoda stop talking about how wonderful the mind of a child is and give them the Cortosis wisdom

[nova slate]

Sorry for late response to this, but if I’m not mistaken, the whole CGI department for a lot of film and Tv companies are really struggling right now due to lack of unions and poor payment on top of being expected to be able to change up a scene as soon as someone asks for a change. Things are being rushed and not paid well enough, and it shows. Part of it is to “save costs” but part is also because consumers now expect things to come even more quickly, and companies are trying to cater to that in order to max profits

[proud notch]

I believe the union thing is correct

[hoary star]

didn't they spend 180 mil per episode?

[proud notch]

I am astounded that they're more mad about how the didn't sense the Sith and not the force heal

[empty minnow]

150 went to the lightsaber size.
||I'm sorry||

[proud notch]

Like do y'all watch Star wars?

[nova slate]

Probably, but it could have cost even more if they paid everyone fairly and made sure the CGI people were able to do their jobs to the fullest extent

[narrow lotus]

23 per episode

[tight sierra]

https://fixupx.com/yak_face/status/1805981094128255090

[narrow lotus]

If you just divide the 184 mil total by 8 episodes

[tight sierra]

The premiere episode of Lost cost 13 million and involved bringing a 737 to Hawaii and blowing it up, do you really think they'll spend ten times the average movie budget on a single episode

https://tenor.com/view/locke-gif-14928866

[nova slate]

I didn’t read it correctly and just kinda waved it off lmao, sorry

[dusty condor]

kinda funny how the acolyte sabers have covertech wheels AND D-rings

[weary sable]

Whyyyyyyyy

You should ever only need one??

[dusty condor]

yeah its stupid

[proud notch]

I noticed that too

Was Qimir's covertec on the base hilt or the shoto hilt?

[nova slate]

Was PT only Covertech and OT only D-rings?

[hoary star]

eh whatever.

[proud notch]

Yes

[nova slate]

Ah. Well idk what the deal is

[proud notch]

I wish we had more leather holsters

If they do old republic stuff, I wanna see hilt holsters

[weary sable]

Honestly Qimir's hilt is the one instance where having both a Covertec and a D-Ring makes sense.

You know, with the whole splitting part.

[dusty condor]

the shoot

shoto

so they’re both on the same hilt

[hoary star]

maybe they just wanted to change how they mounted it based on their mood

[wild cove]

Alright I'm all caught up

that was great

[proud notch]

Odd

I need to look at his costume in more depth but he doesn't have a leather belt, just the cloth obi. Maybe there was a covertec clip or d ring clip but I didn't notice one

[wild cove]

man the jedi really got fucked up on that one huh

[uncut kayak]

yeah I knew some would die

but i did not expect sol to be the only surviving jedi out of that fight

[weary sable]

Jecki and Yord's deaths were so badass.

[uncut kayak]

they were pretty savage

and I'm glad they didn't hold back with that stuff

[wild cove]

qimir is great I'm dying to know more

[weary sable]

Qimir is hot, I'm dying to see more.

[frank bluff]

Iron man mark XVXVXV

[tight sierra]

Hi Aaron

[frank bluff]

Long time no see

[tight sierra]

How's business

[frank bluff]

I scrolled down from above, intensive lore discussion it appears

Am i the only one that just enjoys lightsaber goes zoom zoom, guns go pew pew

[nova slate]

That’s like 90% of SW fans

[tight sierra]

It's the 10 percent that don't are really, really loud when they cry

[cosmic siren]

Was there a force heal? I thought he just rolled osha over

[proud notch]

It looked like he heals a wound she has

[potent cape]

Kinda hard to see because of the lighting lol, but I thought it was force healing too

[narrow lotus]

It was. Healed the wound, but left the blood/dirt/whatever so it was hard to see.

[dusty condor]

yeah i was tweaking, only considered it because of how long it is

but that’s just because of the dual wield

[silk jacinth]

Don't twist your head too much when you see him

[lone coral]

I used a d-ring/covertech wheel combo on my personal saber. I just like it 🤷‍♂️

[proud notch]

Love the rose gold on it

[proud notch]

I was kinda expecting it to be a bigger saber blade because it's a wookie one, but oh well

Kelnacca's also has a d-ring and covertec. Maybe they just add them both and by the time of PT, the Jedi find the d-ring redundancy unnecessary

Are there covertec clips and wheels in earlier high republic stuff?

[silk jacinth]

Qimir to Sol:

https://tenor.com/view/tobey-maguire-spider-man-my-problem-gif-24974999

[proud notch]

Sol: She was a child
Qimir: Did I ask?

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-stanley-stutter-serious-gif-13651284

[proud notch]

My force sensitive that is crazy, but I don't remember asking - Qimir, probably

[visual crater]

Loved the first 2/3 of the episode. Was gritty, action packed, suspenseful. Last 1/3 felt like the other 3 episodes. Which, while it's hard for me to pinpoint why, don't feel like Star Wars to me. Something with the tone or the aesthetic.....IDK.

But overall, I really liked this one. Best of the series, so far.

If I had to nitpick, I'm disappointed they gave away the Qimir twist last week. And this was the first episode I really noticed how huge the sabers were.

[hoary star]

Last week... It was pretty obvious week 2

[proud notch]

One thing I find kinda funny: Sol told Osha last episode "I'll tell you everything". We all thought that was his death knell, but then he was the only Jedi to survive

[lone coral]

Well, we know he's not making it out of this show alive, right? Like, all indications point to it.

[proud notch]

Yes, but we all thought he'd die this episode

The death knell is the Sith line

Sol's line to Osha is a cliche and it's neat that he didn't follow the subsequent cliche of dying after that. He probably won't be able to tell Osha what happened but he will tell Mae

[lone coral]

I think he knows it's Mae. He didnt ask about Mae, he asked about her sister. Not to mention, the tracker dude seems like he knows. My prediction is Sol manages to disarm Mae, Osha returns, Qimir gets killed by Sol, but Osha chooses to stay with her sister after hearing what Sol did on Brendok, and in doing so, kills Sol, either directly or indirectly. Osha then becomes Mae's acolyte.

[proud notch]

Interesting

I feel like Osha would need to be dealt with if she ends up learning Qimir is a Sith

[empty minnow]

Oh man I just realized that they did play Kylo Ren's theme at the end

Everything leads to the sequels mwahaha

[proud notch]

One of the music motifs sounds like a play on the Kylo theme

[empty minnow]

https://x.com/VadersOrder/status/1805792270232191155?t=tSRC3vDGa_S4cwOET4oUDg&s=19

Vader's Order (@VadersOrder) on X

HOLD UP....

Was that Kylo's theme playing?! #TheAcolyte

Twitter · Jun 26, 2024, 2:36 AM

[proud notch]

Oh damn

Maybe he is a Knight of Ren

[lone coral]

Ooooh, that actually makes some modicum of sense. The helmet looks like something the Knights in the sequels would wear, and his oblique "the jedi might call me Sith" line might speak to being a Knight, rather than a Sith.

[proud notch]

I kinda hope it's not, but if he is, then maybe the Sith kill him or something

If he is, then the Sith are still extinct to the Jedi because he wasn't one

[lone coral]

I imagine we'll see a Sith cameo by the end either way, but as of right now, the rest of the Jedi only think there's an assassin trained by a splinter order Jedi. As far as they know, the Sith are extinct.

[hoary star]

here I was thinking that maybe he is a sith but he's actually the apprentice and hasn't earned his Darth title yet

[hoary star]

but really these sound different to me but still trying to be in that John Williams styling for dark sided characters

[proud notch]

What a nice picture, I wonder how their futures will be

[tight sierra]

Jecki Lon? More like Jecki Long dead

[weary sable]

FOUL

[cosmic siren]

I love how qimirs robe made his shoulder were more feminine just to throw off the trail a little bit

Then you see his arms and it’s like either this dudes wolverine or a super jacked woman. Either way attractive as fuck XD

[weary sable]

VERY VERY JACKED I THIRST SO HARD OVER HIS SHOULDERS

[vast plank]

😳

[empty minnow]

Nonemi?!

[weary sable]

Y'ALL SAW ME LAST NIGHT AND Y'ALL GON' SEE ME AGAIN.

DUDE'S GOT HOT BOULDER SHOULDERS.

I'M DOWN BAD.

[empty minnow]

[hoary star]

y'all need to get laid

[vast plank]

https://tenor.com/view/vorzek-vorzneck-oglg-og-lol-gang-gif-24901093

[weary sable]

Where do you think I'm sending these messages from?

[vast plank]

@weary sable log off for a bit and go lift some dumbells

[weary sable]

I'm a permanent resident.

LOL

[empty minnow]

I get the feeling that Osha is gonna be the new Acolyte

This feels like the sort of thing that would happen lol

[vast plank]

I am gonna now do what is called a pro gamer move

https://tenor.com/view/shirtless-manny-jacinto-entrance-gif-13750676

https://tenor.com/view/nosebleed-gif-25292461
Nonemi rn

[hoary star]

or some shit like they use the witch magic together and get rid of Qimir at the end of the show

[lone coral]

Thats my thought too. Sol will come clean about what happened on Brendok, and Osha will feel so betrayed that she becomes the Acolyte, either to Darth Beef, or to Mae.

[nova slate]

Darth Beef?

[vast plank]

I feel like Sol has a history with the Darkside

[lone coral]

Since everyone is so thirsty for Darth Teeth, he's been renamed to Darth Beef.

[nova slate]

The new cow sith coming to a burger chain near you

[vast plank]

as for Qimir I do no think he is the master

showrunner did say there were multiple sith

so IDK

I think Qimir is the acolyte

could be wrong but that is what I am assuming

Probably towards end of show we will see who his master is in an end credits sequence

Darth Tenebrous

or whoever

[hoary star]

I had that thought in the shower earlier today. where when he said he has no name it means he hasn't earned his Darth title yet

[vast plank]

might be one of the acolytes he has throughout the galaxy whom he wants as an apprentice

and I wouldn't be surprised if we see a Hego Damask

😉

then again maybe I am too hopeful

what we know about the sith is that they plot and plot to kill their master

[weary sable]

Except for Dooku, apparently.

[vast plank]

my guess is that Qimir wants both Osha and Mae because they are part of a dyad to use them to kill whoever his master is and then take one of them as his apprentice

[weary sable]

Bro got questioned by Palpatine and attempted to off Ventress on the spot.

[vast plank]

D00kus was a pawn from the beginning

[hoary star]

I doubt anything actually happens like that though... the writing hasn't been fantastic (not awful but not great)

[vast plank]

He was more of a politician than a sitrh

[weary sable]

Dooku didn't even say "yo go into hiding" or some shit he just went "welp okay byeeee".

[cosmic siren]

If anyone needs evidence of nonemis thirst for qimir. Check the pinned messages of this sub

[weary sable]

Honestly his attitude is just as hot as his shoulders.

"Was that its name?"
"She was a child."
"You brought her here."

[cosmic siren]

Guy acts EXACTLY as I would as a sith honestly

[weary sable]

Bro is cold and I'm kinda here for it?

[cosmic siren]

The dark side has never been more attractive

[lone coral]

What, you're not into a 7 ft tall asthmatic, half robot burn victim in a black leather suit?

[bright token]

I don’t get why he’s trying to lie to Sol about simply wanting to exist in the galaxy when the Sith have very clearly never been content with just existing alongside the jedi

[cosmic siren]

That’s the thing

[vast plank]

All sith do is lie and manipulate why do you think

[bright token]

like do you think Sol would just say “ohhhh nvm bro you’re good you can go home now”

[vast plank]

I am 80% he has a master

[weary sable]

He might not be a Sith at all. There's some level of evidence that he might be a Knight of Ren.

[vast plank]

he is NOT the master

[cosmic siren]

When he says “might as well call me a sith” I legitimately don’t think he thinks of himself as a sith

[lone coral]

I agree.

[cosmic siren]

That’s just the only thing the Jedi would understand he is

[vast plank]

I think the title is also misleading

[nova slate]

https://tenor.com/view/maury-sigh-gif-5851133302025912289

[vast plank]

the Acolyte is Qimir not the sisters

[cosmic siren]

Remember when anakin called the father a Sith Lord?

[weary sable]

Qimir @ Sol: Y'all Jedi are too dumb to fathom the fact that non-Sith darksiders with knowledge of the Jedi arts are out there smh

[cosmic siren]

Because the Jedi teach they are the purest form of force users.

[vast plank]

no?

[cosmic siren]

Legit this is even written in the Jedi path

[vast plank]

Kel-Dor use force to tell weather

[nova slate]

Nuance? In my Star Wars?

[weary sable]

The Miraluka had their own Force-sensitive order, right?

[bright token]

I think every Miraluka has some kind of force sensitivity?

Don’t remember

[visual crater]

Unless he turns.

[lone coral]

Oh

[vast plank]

bbbBBando Gora

[lone coral]

Oh there's a thought

[vast plank]

Bando Gora not canon?

[lone coral]

Sol becomes the Acolyte

[vast plank]

Komari Vosa where

[nova slate]

Would that not increase the likelihood of death then?

[bright token]

I highly doubt Sol will live through the show, he’ll probably admit to some horrible Jedi wrongdoing and then die making up for it

[vast plank]

who is this?

[cosmic siren]

Sol is on the chopping block for the end of the series for sure

[visual crater]

Not if he's a sith moving forward.

[weary sable]

Even the Nightsisters worshipped the Force as twin gods right?

Or at least one sect of them, anyways.

[cosmic siren]

Don’t recognize this person at all

[bright token]

depends on which Nightsisters you’re talking about, but I think one of them did

Komari Vosa, one of Dooku’s Dark Side Adepts

[vast plank]

from Tales?

[nova slate]

Is this not an OC?

[vast plank]

IDK if the other sect was nightsisters

[bright token]

no?

[vast plank]

their magick didn't seem darkside

[bright token]

she’s from Bounty Hunter

[nova slate]

Ah

[visual crater]

Sol did something bad that we haven't seen yet. He also showed some anger in the last episode. I think him turning dark has some teeth.

[weary sable]

In Legends there were multiple sects of Nightsisters. I'm pretty sure one of them worshipped the Force as twin gods representing Light and Dark, even though they themselves were Darksiders?

[vast plank]

She was Dooku's Dark side adept and served as the boss of the 2002 game Star Wars bounty hunter.
She was killed by Jango Fett as a final test to be the template of the clone army

her sabers were later gifted to Ventress

[cosmic siren]

The Bando Gora do exist in canon. They were a force cult that turned into essentially the dark brotherhood from elder scrolls

[vast plank]

She also lead the cult called Bando Gora

[nova slate]

Weird. Seems like a lot of her characteristics are a proto-ventress

[cosmic siren]

They turned to assassinations and crime syndicate

[vast plank]

my 1st introduction to the nightsisters

extra points if anyone knows who this is

[bright token]

that’s the other main purpose she serves, Dooku gives Ventress her lightsabers in the Tartakovsky Clone Wars

[cosmic siren]

My only experience with the night sisters pre canon was mauls mother

And I don’t think she’s that

[vast plank]

Mine was from an old game called Star Wars Empire at War; Forces of Corruption

Nightsister's name is Silri

[cosmic siren]

My fucking dentist office just Rick rolled me…

[crisp ravine]

I KNEW THERE WAS A REASON I COULDNT TAKE QIMIR SERIOUSLY BRUH HES JASON MENDOZA IN THE GOOD PLACE

[frank bluff]

10/10 on the sith side now
Qimir is jaw dropping

DIE JEDI
I AM TEAM DARTH BEEF

[crisp ravine]

all I can think of when I see him is jacksonville Florida

[frank bluff]

I just watched ep5

Help me dude is 🥵

[lone coral]

Darth Jianyu.

[frank bluff]

I just want to see him kill more Jedi

[empty minnow]

Bruh why is everyone having the hots for Darth Diente xD

He does look better without the mask tho imo

[wild cove]

lifter representation

[vast plank]

wtf? Nightwing in the Acolyte?

https://tenor.com/view/snl-saturday-night-live-jimmy-fallon-too-sexy-too-hot-gif-4291077

[wild cove]

Nobody:
Absolutely Nobody:
Qimir:

https://tenor.com/view/only-chads-can-repub-this-no-anime-profile-picture-flex-muscles-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-17484981

[weary sable]

Yord flexing his bod in that one episode:
Qimir:

[wild cove]

Ignore caption we welcome all anime content in this house

[weary sable]

Lol, thanks.

[nova slate]

It’s the muscle mixed with the long-ish wet hair. It attracts both muscle heads and the “dark and brooding” fans

[weary sable]

YES YES YES

AND ALSO HIS COLD AF ATTITUDE

[nova slate]

Qimir is like what Kylo could have and should have been

[weary sable]

Ben Swolo?
Nah. Qimir.

[silk jacinth]

😒

[lone coral]

They are looking for reasons to dislike something. I just ignore them.

[weary sable]

Real.

Life is too short to be constantly angry.

[shrewd heron]

This may have already been answered. The actor was in The Good Place, his character Jason is amazing. He was from Jacksonville. He was a HUGE fan of Blake Bortles. He would yell BORTLES and sometimes yell Duval (think the airport in Jacksonville or maybe a neighborhood)

His character was very endearing and lovable. Just awesome to see him in this and slaying.

He was also in Maverick, but like had maybe one scene on camera.

[weary sable]

Thanks lol

[tight sierra]

Ignore Twitter embrace cutting episode down to just six minutes to learn their dueling

[shrewd heron]

I need to stop with the good place gifs

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/blake-bortles-bortles-the-good-place-jason-mendoza-jokes-gif-12529272

[silk jacinth]

Man I love this duel

[wild cove]

I only know of Jacksonville because I went down a YouTube rabbit hole and watched a 3 hour lore video about their crazy gang war

[shrewd heron]

I hear it is pretty true that in JVille they yell shit like that

[silk jacinth]

https://x.com/CultureCrave/status/1806059269625889171?t=o_ZbdovX2-DB-G6t-zJyJA&s=19

Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave) on X

Manny Jacinto confirms The Stranger in #TheAcolyte is a Sith Lord

The first new live-action Sith introduced since 2002

(via @EW)

Twitter · Jun 26, 2024, 8:17 PM

Reading the comments and holy fuck

[weary sable]

Huh. Interesting.

[silk jacinth]

How can people be so dumb?

[lone coral]

I shall not be doing this. Comment sections are cancer.

[silk jacinth]

I need his mask

I can do his saber

I'll have to train again to get his arms

[lone coral]

Hasbro already announced a helmet release.

[silk jacinth]

I know

I posted the pics before

But I need it now

[lone coral]

Haha, fair enough. I didn't see you had posted them.

[silk jacinth]

I wanted to take a break from building lightsabers after I finish Indara's

But Qimir is making me have second thoughts

[lone coral]

I'd really like to figure out a way to make his saber, but semi functional. Maybe the secondary is a baselit with a spring activated telescoping blade?

Idk, I just know I want one.

[proud notch]

This should be pinned

[proud notch]

And this

[proud notch]

Thank God I don't have a twitter and can't read it

[proud notch]

Also I figured given how strong he is in the force, but the speculation was fun

A knight of Ren probably couldn't do what he did

[silk jacinth]

Kylo couldn't

[lone coral]

Same here. Fully avoided Twitter.

[silk jacinth]

But probably because he doesn't have a lot of training

[lone coral]

Kylo did stop a blaster bolt in midair. He's not a complete pushover.

[silk jacinth]

That's true

[weary sable]

Unfortunately I feel like just having two hilts that connect at the emitter and pommel and using two separate blades would be ideal.

[foggy saffron]

he cant be one though ?

[lone coral]

Yeah, I know that's more practical. But there's a part of me that wants to figure out a way to get it as close to what we see on screen as possible.

[vast plank]

@weary sable We need to sculpt a marble statue of this pose and have it as the server pfp

what do you think?

[silk jacinth]

Because the Sith have been dead for 1000 years and magically show up in TPM

[weary sable]

I think you can do better than that.

[silk jacinth]

😉

[vast plank]

😳

[weary sable]

There are better poses and better shots that show his arms off better.

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-count-dooku-surely-you-can-do-better-you-can-do-better-christopher-lee-gif-19477753

[vast plank]

@weary sablePOV this is u

wyd?

[weary sable]

"Girl bye, you're dying!"

As disrespectfully as possible, Qimir can do w/e tf he wants with me.

[lone coral]

https://tenor.com/view/queen-riri-rihanna-riri-gif-12084368235027008459

Nonemi =

[weary sable]

YEHHHHHHHHHH

[tight sierra]

This is more for myself than the server

[weary sable]

Yeah that's a better server pfp.

[tight sierra]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8sMfS8NiXG/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

katiemcdonnell

Beyond grateful to have had the chance to play a Jedi! 🙏🏼

…And only slightly offended that out of all the stunt Jedi, they chose to hide my face. 😅

#theacolyte #starwars #ithiapaan #keldor #jedi

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[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/love-hug-safe-couple-sweet-gif-11456558834629491505

[vast plank]

such a cool shot

[tight sierra]

https://fixupx.com/mvdpire/status/1806014473091600868 fancam

[faint urchin]

Imagine a great saber that splits into two

[cosmic siren]

when does qimir lose his bracer?

[faint urchin]

Yord

[cosmic siren]

thanks

[hoary star]

Yord tried so hard, honestly probably did the best of anyone in the fight

[silk jacinth]

Him and Jecki

[cosmic siren]

i think qimir is refreshing cus yeah hes dark but hes not a full on edge lord like say vader, bane, malgus or kylo ren. dudes not screaming in rage or going berserker or anything you would relate to the sith. for the most part hes collected and just entirely fucking with everyone

[tight sierra]

Jecki

[silk jacinth]

And she was a child

[cosmic siren]

was she though?

shes gotta be at least 18

[hoary star]

"she was a child"

[tight sierra]

"How can a Padawan nearly defeat a Sith??"
Me, an intellectual:

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-kenobi-maul-under10mb-discord-gif-25903992

[foggy saffron]

no but i thought that teneberous was plagueis's master and i would assume qimir is an apprentice

[cosmic siren]

my favourite still "a lightsaber can immediately melt through 6 inches of steel but this guys jewelry gives them erectile disfunction" like, yeah, welcome to how cortosis works

[hoary star]

still 3 episodes left to find out

[foggy saffron]

yeah true

ep 5 was very good

[tight sierra]

Didn't Tenebrous have a cortorsis mine?

[cosmic siren]

could still be a thing. the majority of tenebrous's media is subject to change. the only things we know for sure are his name and his apprentice

[foggy saffron]

maybe qimir is teneberous's first apprentice

or hes teneberous

[cosmic siren]

i think theres something more going on

[tight sierra]

https://vxtwitter.com/tommy_stella/status/1806081662247158118

[cosmic siren]

"might as well call me a sith" i dont think he believes hes a sith, its just the only thing the jedi would know.

[hoary star]

honestly was surprised that Yord and Jecki got offed, was defs expecting all the other deaths though. but was expecting them to make it to the last or second to last episode

[uncut kayak]

Jecki went out fighting though

[cosmic siren]

i fully expected for sol and jecki to get out of theis episode with yord getting out severely injured

[foggy saffron]

jecki shouldve survived :(

[cosmic siren]

didnt expect jecki to be turned into swiss cheese

[vast plank]

Stupid Sexy Sith

[hoary star]

I looked into it the mask is was inspired by Donnie Darko

[cosmic siren]

the neck snap genuinely surprised me

[vast plank]

https://tenor.com/view/station19-maya-bishop-hole-puncher-papers-hole-punch-gif-27142575

[hoary star]

mixed with vaders helmet

so this + vaders helmet.

[ocean jewel]

i think the thing that bothered me the most was the 100% of just leaving lightsabers behind when they left

[silk jacinth]

Grievous doesn't exist yet

[shrewd heron]

I didn't want Yord or Jeki to die. Like very much. Assumed they wouldn't

But they did

And it hurts

And it just makes it that much more awesome

[proud notch]

I believe so, but Darth Bane also was a cortosis miner

[proud notch]

I hope he's Venamis

[narrow lotus]

meh, they were ugly hilts anyway

[silk jacinth]

Sol's is cool

I need a good pic of the one Mae uses to cut her hair

[narrow lotus]

Sol's just needs to be shrunk like 30% lol

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/brandon-herrera-ak50-thicc-damn-rear-trunnion-gif-19257419

[tight sierra]

It's Yord's

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/861687105057849366/1255671070858674288/Screenshot_20240627_014825_Instagram.jpg?ex=667dfa50&is=667ca8d0&hm=47072080b0c1eaed590b1f1d1fadd7b5053f5273010876cdd122752f78d534c8&

[weary sable]

THEY FORGOT THE ARMS

[silk jacinth]

I NEED PICS!!!!!

[proud notch]

That's Yord's

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-the-acolyte-trakata-lightsaber-technique-canon/ my fellow lightsaber nerds, did we notice Trakata being used? Cause I didn't

[proud notch]

Ooh good shot of those boots

[hoary star]

only if you count him busting out a second unknown lightsaber

[proud notch]

Or at least the shafts lol

[proud notch]

But that's not Trakata

[tight sierra]

It was revealed here https://www.starwars.com/series/the-acolyte/season-1-episode-5-night-episode-guide which also confirmed that's Cortosis

[ocean jewel]

i always viewed it as dog tag like.

[proud notch]

Where? I don't see any mention of Trakata

Nevermind

It was in the gallery

[hoary star]

I mean I need to rewatch the episode but I didn't actually see it

[proud notch]

I did not notice him turn off his saber unless we're talking about the moment before Jecki dual wields

[weary sable]

It's definitely not Trakata.

Qimir's move relied entirely on the element of surprise.

And had nothing to do with Trakata techniques.

One of the few times we've seen Trakata used in canon is when Cal fought the Second Sister on Bogano.

[hoary star]

Trakata being mentioned just feels more like trying to appease legends enjoyers but not understanding what they actually put in the episode

[weary sable]

The concealed weapon was cool, but it wasn't Trakata. Not even close. There was no active, conscious thought that concerned the technique of manipulating the appearance of the blade.

[proud notch]

Yeah this must be a mistake on some team, Qimir may have used a Trakata technique once but none of that choreography registered as Trakata

[hoary star]

honestly they probably just cut the scenes where he used it

[weary sable]

Screenrant is just trying to appeal to Legends enjoyers and get attention.

[hoary star]

unfortunately that argument doesn't work with it being mentioned on the official website

[weary sable]

Wait. What.

Bruh.

[hoary star]

especially funny since they excplicity state what Trakata is

[weary sable]

Considering what happens in the show contradicts the description, eh.

Like, don't get me wrong, the move is definitely within the same line of philosophy as Trakata, maybe even taking inspiration from it. But it's not.

Qimir might use Trakata later on though. He seems like the type.

The Jedi didn't use Trakata because it was dishonourable, and the Sith didn't use it because they thought Trakata was for pussies.

I don't think Qimir cares.

[hoary star]

I just think they cut the scenes where it happened. like with the Kelnaca fighting

[narrow lotus]

I still think the Kelnacca thing is gonna be in a flashback from the other POV of the coven

[ocean jewel]

This is beyond me.

[narrow lotus]

cuz he was fighting Torbin

[silk jacinth]

I think we still have to see a flashback

[tight sierra]

I was hoping the episode would open with a brief flashback to Qimir hanging by the foot, and after watching Mae run off he'd sigh, pull his saber and cut the rope, get in costume and meet Kalnacca, and then finally the titlecard

[weary sable]

Me fr

[cosmic siren]

Yep.

Legitimately

[regal shell]

did Ren ever get a birth year? Could Qimir be Ren?

[silk jacinth]

He could be a Ren

A title more than a specific person

[regal shell]

I was thinking of this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren_(Star_Wars)

says he is human, so he would be rather old if he is alive the same time as kylo

maybe this one https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ren_(Ren's_predecessor)

[nova slate]

so this is why sol survived...

[tight sierra]

https://twitter.com/alexleonis/status/1806135263019544825

Alex 🖤 (@alexleonis) on X

Sweat it out! Join Qimir’s ARMy today! 💪💪💪 #TheAcolyte

Twitter · Jun 27, 2024, 1:19 AM

[vast plank]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-logan-i-want-you-back-i-can-do-that-sure-gif-24853558

[frosty meadow]

I still think the teeth look goofy tbh

[tight sierra]

Why is the helmet on preorder tomorrow but ships in Q3 2025

[regal shell]

That’s hasbro for ya. It’ll likely come out sooner than that.

[lone coral]

I think Hasbro has done that for a lot of their high end stuff. Helmets, proton packs, even their nerf mandalorian pulse rifle all were pre-order waaaaaay ahead of when it releases.

[regal shell]

If I recall correctly, their ahsoka saber was announced around this time last year and is just now finally starting to ship.

[lone coral]

Thats sounds right, but I wasn't following that one super close.

[regal shell]

Just looked it up. Announced July 2023 with availability listed as Fall 2024.

[cosmic siren]

im so glad that they flipped qimirs personality for when he went total dark sider

like in the first couple episodes dude was the perfect fucking loser no body side kick character

then this shit comes in and holy fuck my guy is a totally different person

[regal shell]

Good ole dark side deception.

Similar to Senator/chancellor palps vs sidious personalities

[cosmic siren]

palpatine though already had a sense of power behind him

guy was legit the head of the galaxy long before he revealed his sith side

qimir though pulls of rando fuck off the street to oh my fucking god this dude will kill every single one of you choke me daddy

[regal shell]

See, I think we watch ep1-3 without having the prior knowledge of who palps becomes, it would feel similar. A prim and proper govt figure who is actually a sith master and master duelist

[tight sierra]

my thoughts on qimir before he lost his sleeves and my thoughts on Qimir after he lost his sleeves

like what the hell where the heck was he hiding those guns

[regal shell]

That skit was and still is hilarious

[vast plank]

A lot of people who are ripped just look skinny wearing normal clothes lol

[regal shell]

Dark colored clothes hide a lot

[tight sierra]

i don't work out enough so i'm unfamiliar

[tight sierra]

https://imgur.com/ubLYjyQ

[tight sierra]

https://www.ddinstagram.com/p/C8s_nxJtCAu/?img_index=1

[small sphinx]

That was a dark episode, loved the choreography in the fights, especially the two Jedi force pulled onto that lightsaber.
Ok, must learn to not get attached to characters.
The sisters have swapped, right, or am I assuming that has happened?!

[potent cape]

It appears they have swapped.

@weary sable https://x.com/CATD3MON/status/1806027207719932284

[small sphinx]

This could make for a very interesting set of episodes, does Osha now become the apprentice and go Sith, whilst Mae, who’d been having a change of heart join the Jedi.
Could they both now become Sith sisters.

[potent cape]

Oh Mae isn't joining the jedi. Due to her knowing the Sith exists, she either has to die or be allied with them

[small sphinx]

Aye, of course.

[potent cape]

I have no idea what her plan is though lmao, sabotage Sol? frame him somehow?

Because Sol has to die too, unfortunately.

[weary sable]

HECK YEAHHH

[hoary star]

Cloud everything the dark side does

[light ermine]

have a feeling Osha's final test to join Darth Qimir is going to be killing Sol after she learns the truth, and killing Mae to cement her loyalty to the Sith in some way

[narrow lotus]

I feel like if Osha goes that way, it's not going to be intentional. She's just gonna do all the things he's looking for inadvertently lol.

[light ermine]

idk I get the sense that whatever she's going to learn about Sol is going to completely shatter her trust in him and her worldview of the jedi

[wild cove]

he listens to Drake

[potent cape]

That'd do it

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/not-drake-drake-wow-wow-drake-not-drake-wow-gif-1992828786724823159

[weary sable]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[regal shell]

So they are calling him “The Stranger”?

[weary sable]

I guess so??

[nova slate]

"while some may call him a sith" "this darksider" so is he a sith or not at this point? getting mixed messages from the promotions

[regal shell]

Also looks like his lightsaber is rather long when it’s not split. Maybe the one we saw pictures of from the early screening was just part of his hilt and not the full one.

[nova slate]

they could be like how Cal's are in Survivor where there's parts that can recess to fit together? I think that's the right wording?

[regal shell]

Possibly, need better shots of it

[regal shell]

What I’m getting from that is that he is not a sith, just a darkside user. But Jedi and others would assume he is a sith until they know better?

[nova slate]

but then also this?

this is why I'm more confused now

[regal shell]

Yea, that’s from an actor. I don’t trust what they say lol

Remember the one actor said Anakin blew up the Death Star.

Most actors don’t have much knowledge of the lore. He probably sees that he is wielding a red lightsaber so he calls himself a Sith Lord

[nova slate]

Guess we'll see how it'll all play out eventually, and i gotta just stop worrying about it

[silk jacinth]

My guess is that they name him The Stranger because we don't know his Darth title

Or if he is a Darth yet

[hoary star]

This feels more like tom Holland spoiling shit than someone saying Anakin blew up the death star though

[weary sable]

YEAHHHHHHH

[weary sable]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[regal shell]

It’s live for anyone who is interested https://hasbropulse.com/products/star-wars-the-black-series-the-stranger-electronic-helmet

Says shipping September 2024

[lone coral]

There's a part of me that want to take a crack at making that helmet out of metal.

I'm not a great welder, but that will add to the overall look, I think.

[weary sable]

Bro that'd be crazy. I'm all for it though.

[lone coral]

The teeth, aside from the very front, look like lengths of flexible cable conduit, 2 on each side.

[crisp ravine]

It’s only $100??? Frothing at the mouth rn trying not to buy it

[cosmic siren]

just ran into someone saying the episode was bad because killing jecki and yord was wasteful

[weary sable]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Star Wars fans try not to complain about shit challenge: INSTANT FAIL

[cosmic siren]

they legit didnt even install the game before failing it.

[lone coral]

Because they tried to install it on a toaster.

[nova slate]

Hey I mean if you can run doom on bacteria cells…

[narrow lotus]

Well. At least Dafne can come back as a human character.
Charlie would need to be an alien the next time lol.

[lone coral]

I'm really hoping she continues her career in action oriented roles. Between this and Logan, she's got such a great ability to make elaborate combat believable.

[small sphinx]

Her fight with The Stranger was nuts, it was absolutely brutal.

I’d really warmed to her character too.

[weary sable]

Her character wasn't the only warm thing.

The lightsaber that went through her three times was pretty warm, too.

[vast plank]

💀

hmm~1

[narrow lotus]

This would make sense. If Sol was taken by the Jedi before Qimir was born, and he grew up jealous.

[weary sable]

"It's like poetry. It rhymes."

Sol training Osha and Qimir training Mae.

The sun and the moon, training the light and the dark.

[lone coral]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-shock-shocked-otter-utterly-shocking-huh-gif-26697050

[lone coral]

Ooh, I really like this idea. It would also help explain the near obsession Sol has concerning Osha and Mae. They mirror his own experience.

[silk jacinth]

Please no

One family drama is enough in the show

[narrow lotus]

Lmao "family drama" is just classic Star Wars at this point

[small sphinx]

Aye lollolooooololol

[small sphinx]

That ties in with the sun like eclipse logo in the word Acolyte.

[cosmic siren]

this entire channel is the kind of thing i expect to see from a channel called star wars theory. meanwhile the actual channel is just filled with hate

[lone coral]

The whole story of Star Wars is one dynastic family making all of their personal struggles everyone else's problem, haha.

[silk jacinth]

Maybe Sol and Qimir are the Sun and Moon to OSHA

OSHA feels the temptation of the dark side

[narrow lotus]

He needs to just rebrand as "Star Wars Complaining" or "Star Wars Whining" 😂

[lone coral]

Star Wars Teary

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-11437316614611695342

[proud notch]

Interesting

[nova slate]

Could work? Age difference might be a bit wonky but you can probably wave that off with the whole “Asians don’t raisin” thing or the force.

Or their potential family raises Qimir with hatred for Jedi for taking Sol away, even though it’s like technically a choice?

[cosmic siren]

by his own words he straight admits he hasnt enjoyed star wars since mando season 1 and is just going to get more hateful the longer he goes on about it.

[lone coral]

To be fair, there is now a financial incentive for him to be hateful about it, so I'm willing to bet that even if he enjoys something, he's only going to nitpick and complain about it to drive views.

[cosmic siren]

hes large enough to actually enjoy it and make videos that arnt toxic about it. i know because generation tech is doing just that and theory has FAR larger an audience

[lone coral]

Good point. Maybe it's just that driving engagement via outrage is the easier path. You know, giving in to emotion in order to gain short term power faster. I think this franchise has a term for that...

[cosmic siren]

i truly believe its just outrage media

[lone coral]

It's exhausting. If I'm going to watch a review of anything, it's going to have to come from a positive place. Screencrush and CinemaWins are both great for that.

[cosmic siren]

generation tech is the best for me right now because allen is legitimately going to call out faults and rave about the best shit. he actually feels like a proper review

and star wars explained

[modern nexus]

man i am not going to be having a good time when they kill sol

fuck

[cosmic siren]

no fucking word of his work out routine is criminal

[modern nexus]

fr give us the arm day list

ngl they dropped so many kylo motifs in this episode too LMAO

[plucky sigil]

Damn

First time in a while I’ve seen saber combat that is like super fluid and smooth

I’ve only seen the out of context sequel stuff

[modern nexus]

i think the average quality of this duel's choreo was better than the average quality of the anakin v obiwan duel

anakin v obiwan duel reached higher highs and lower lows

and was shot/directed better in terms of lughting

*lighting

however there were a few camera angles and shots here that really had the sauce in it

just didnt like the blue grayish lighting all that much

also qimir ran away off screen a suspicious amount of times for plot purposes?

maybe he was just chasing mae

[nova slate]

It also helps probably that some of the people fighting were “nameless” so they could easily just be played by stunt performers

[hoary star]

Hate absolutely can lead to gains, defs saw it a lot in the military

[modern nexus]

in which case he comes off as more literally genuinely insane as opposed to trained sith master

[lone coral]

I think that's probably closer to the truth. He stops just short of calling himself a sith, and even Yord mentions that his fighting style and movements don't make sense. I think he's some other darksider, and that by the end of the show, he'll be killed by the true Sith, for daring to appropriate their order, and risk exposing them.

[modern nexus]

knight of ren is something id bet money on

[ocean jewel]

i agree with this

[modern nexus]

i also like to think that i could see forms of saber combat there

sol looks very soresu

jecki ataru

qimir juyo with a touch of djem so

[hoary star]

Same

[modern nexus]

there are three episodes left right

[lone coral]

I believe so, yes.

I know there's a flashback in at least one of those episodes.

[modern nexus]

i have my gripes with the show as a whole but i like that they are at least trying new things

[lone coral]

And we still haven't seen Master Vernestra in combat

[modern nexus]

doubt we will ngl

[lone coral]

There was a quick shot in one of the trailers.

[modern nexus]

huh

nvm then

[hoary star]

Yeah and assuming we're not getting a second season right?

[modern nexus]

ive been avoiding trailers for the most part

[lone coral]

Thats fair, my wife does the same.

I on the other hand want to watch all trailers and speculate, haha.

[modern nexus]

Disney gonna take one look at the reviews and stamp it with a “nuh uh” if they were thinkin abt a season two

which is doubt they were anyways

[modern nexus]

fair enough LMAO

i like to be surprised so

[hoary star]

It's also possible that they just cut those parts of the show too

[modern nexus]

im avoiding any andor s2 trailers for a similar reason

trusting diego luna to bust it down on that one

[modern nexus]

it would make sense given that they relegated the entire matter to a lower council anyways because

yknow

senate

corruption

politics

hooray

i love the jedi order becoming a bureaucratic mess

[hoary star]

Honestly wish they would have just released the Acolyte as a film instead of a TV show... Every episode just feels like the parts where a TV network decided to insert an ad break

[modern nexus]

and that gives them an out to not report darksider findings ig

[modern nexus]

yeah

really dislike the eight part movie format

[lone coral]

They did that specifically because Solo got such a bad return. Boba Fett, Obi-Wan, and the Acolyte were all originally meant to be films.

They were re tooled into shows to avoid theater fatigue and help boost Disney+

Ironically, I think Solo would have been better as a show.

[ocean jewel]

eh. i think solo was perfect the way its was set.

[lone coral]

At least I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

[modern nexus]

sometimes it surprises me how much star wars under disney is under the yoke of what they perceive to be fandom sentiment

[hoary star]

Honestly i think the Jedi would have worked better being more Samurai (OT inspiration) rather than Buddhist monks (PT onwards) but whatever I'm not George Lucas and what's done is done

[lone coral]

Thats not new, though. I think the Darth Jar Jar theory was closer to what George intended than not, but everyone hated Jar Jar so much that he changed plans.

[modern nexus]

buddhism was a major part of samurai culture but yeah i think i get what u were tryna say

[modern nexus]

LMAO

[hoary star]

After a certain point yeah, but yeah it's why I specified monks

[modern nexus]

im not sure how much George let the fandom sway his thinking process but my impression was always that he didnt much care what they thought that much

i could be wrong

[hoary star]

He didn't, he had investors who didn't like his ideas

[modern nexus]

yeah thats fair
i do like what lucas did with the force in the pt but it would have benefited from those films being better executed as a whole

as would many things

[lone coral]

I feel like I remember an interview where he acknowledged how disheartened he was at the backlash to TPM.

[modern nexus]

yeah

[nova slate]

He let it sway him enough to where people said he “killed and did unsavory acts to their childhood” which is to say pretty much not at all

[modern nexus]

ig he did also end up selling sw in no small part due to fan backlash too

[modern nexus]

ah i remember seeing that

i was not alive at the time but yeah

[nova slate]

It’s certainly… a take, I’ll give them that

[hoary star]

And Jar Jar was always intended to be comedic relief. But they didn't like his original sith witch idea and that it might scare kids, and then they just made a new sith every movie instead of sticking with Maul the whole PT until the end.

[modern nexus]

i will say i care about star wars a lot but making statements as extreme as that is

hm

maybe ones life should not hinge on a franchise managed by those outside your control

[lone coral]

Thats fair. I just felt like the Darth Jar Jar theory fit the "rhyming" type structure he likes in his writing. He'd have been like an inverted Yoda.

[nova slate]

Probably, but we like to care too much about trivial things

[modern nexus]

LMAO

[modern nexus]

ill have to do some research into that when i get home; id never heard of the darth jar jar stuff for the original pt plans before

[hoary star]

It was just Internet forum ideas from people who hated Jar Jar with no real merit

[nova slate]

Darth jar jar as far as I can tell has always been a meme

[lone coral]

It was a big reddit theory a number of years ago. They cite Jar Jars bizarrely good luck, some background shots where it appears he could be doing a mind trick type thing, and honestly, he was the one who ended giving Palpatine emergency powers.

Maybe I'm just hopeful that a silly idea was real, haha.

[narrow lotus]

its possible
https://ew.com/the-acolyte-creator-leslye-headland-season-2-exclusive-8664848

[nova slate]

Hey there’s people who thought Jar Jar could be Snoke at some point

[hoary star]

Pretty bad idea to be offing main cast if you want a second season...

[nova slate]

MORE VICTIMS YAYYYY

[lone coral]

Depends on who survives through the end. It is titled the Acolyte, not Sol's Lament.

[modern nexus]

i remember darth jar jar as a meme and never as a genuine theory LMAO

[narrow lotus]

its almost as if you can create new characters and hire new actors

[hoary star]

It has always been a meme

[modern nexus]

thats crazy
what a strange idea, not sure what delusions are going on in there chief /j

[lone coral]

It got super memed, but I remember reading a really long post that actually laid out some good points, that sort of swayed me into believing it a bit more.

[modern nexus]

LMAO

interesting

ill look around on reddit when i get back from my job

[narrow lotus]

the jist of it is that everything that happens is Jar-Jar's fault lol

[lone coral]

I'd like to find that post as well. I that it would have been a kind of neat storytelling device. Take bumbling Yoda from ESB, make him tall, keep him talking weird, and make him evil.

[modern nexus]

tbf if that hoe didnt give palpy emergency powers things woulda been different

[lone coral]

Everything being your fault when you're one of the good guys is bad. Everything being your fault because you are an evil mastermind is another thing entirely. I like the idea, and I can't wait to see it in Lego form in Sept, hah.

[hoary star]

Someone else would have done it even if Jar Jar didn't, he'd been lobbying for it

[modern nexus]

thats true

but jar jar is there for me to conveniently blame

and who am i to ignore low hanging fruit

[wild cove]

it's a little concerning there's only 3 episodes left ngl

I'm not really sure how satisfying a story they're going to be able to tell in that little time

[silk jacinth]

Because we'll have a season 2

More seasons

[wild cove]

thats what I assumed

[ocean jewel]

with all the backlash/hate the show has gotten its hard to say if disney would greenlight a 2nd season even if the story could use one

[small sphinx]

Are there any ratings on the amount of overall viewing numbers it has achieved per episode, how is it actually doing as a show?

[narrow lotus]

well there is this https://screenrant.com/star-wars-the-acolyte-viewership-data-real-indicator/

[small sphinx]

Thanks!

[proud notch]

So SWT recently posted a video saying that hate isn't what gets you money, but shilling. What is everyone's thoughts on it? I don't agree but I'm curious how everyone would contend or agree with him

[lone coral]

It depends on how he's defining "shilling." If he's using it as a catch all term for folks that like the Disney stuff, then he's being dishonest, and likely knows it. If he truly believes that the people who post positive reviews and videos are being paid by Disney to do so, then that's actual shilling, and is also dishonest, but on Disney's side.

[proud notch]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8tJ-1stSqk/?igsh=MWNod2JkM3Zsd2tzdQ==

star.wars.theory

Cent
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Mints

Likes

4064

Instagram

This is the vid btw

[lone coral]

The greater point is that the algorithms that serve places like FB and YouTube thrive on emotion, anger in particular. Studies have been done that show that people engage more on social media when they're angry.

[hoary star]

It's whatever gets you more views to get more ad revenue or sponsorship money

[proud notch]

He basically said his most viewed thing was Mando s2 stuff when he was crying about Luke (no hate, was a good moment). Buttttt, then I looked at his recent content and all the acolyte stuff performed better than his bad batch stuff

Also his content about anti Disney was his most viewed content so that's why I want to say he's bs-ing but I like to have other opinions too

[silk jacinth]

He is a moron

[narrow lotus]

nah he's just a hypocritical grifter

[lone coral]

The anti Disney stuff was bound to get more views, for 2 reasons. 1) There is a built in audience for that, from the day they declared the old EU as no longer canon, and 2)Being angry is physiologically addictive, so the more you feed into it, the better it feels. We as a society have a lot of latent anger roiling around, some for good reasons, others less so. Folks looking to make a quick buck capitalize on that, and I believe that's a large part of what we're seeing.

[wide bronze]

Finally caught up on all the episodes

[narrow lotus]

And I'll admit, I was halfway onboard that train for a while. I thought the sequels were boring and the writing/directing lacked a clear focus.
But then people kept getting mad about things that weren't actually problems and I hopped off lmao.

[wide bronze]

Episode 4 I thought was mediocre, but 5 I thought wasn't bad

The fights were good

[wide bronze]

He became a dropshipper so like... kinda hypocritical in a way?

[narrow lotus]

and he shills his shop link in just about everything he posts now too

[wide bronze]

Yes lol

[lone coral]

So yeah, it's classic projection. Everyone who disagrees with him is a shill, not like the true fans who agree and buy stuff from him.

[narrow lotus]

and like

if shill, why my bank account so empty?

[wide bronze]

How does disagreement make you a shill

[narrow lotus]

because it means you like Disney SW and you can only like Disney SW if you're a Disney shill
checkmate, shill!

[lone coral]

Thats SWTheory's claim, not mine.

[wide bronze]

||I'm just happy that one guy died, I couldn't stand him I thought his acting was AWFUL||

Acolyte spoiler above

[crisp ravine]

Which one

[foggy saffron]

who

[lone coral]

I was gonna say, that has to be narrowed down 😆

[wide bronze]

Crap what's his name

[narrow lotus]

the fact that he props up all the villains of the series on a pedestal really shows where his mindset is at
he simps so hard for Vader, the guy you're not supposed to like

[wide bronze]

The prominent side character that couldn't act for shit

[wild cove]

I don’t think it needs to be one or the other. You can like some stuff and not others. Which is why I find the hate train really stupid. I absolutely despised kenobi and ahsoka and most of mando, but I gave this show a shot anyway and found I liked it quite a bit

[wide bronze]

And the one that said things like anakin blew up the death star

[nova slate]

Yord?

[wide bronze]

Yeah him

[foggy saffron]

WHAT

[silk jacinth]

It's Yordver

[lone coral]

Exactly. I liked all the shows you despised, and that's fine. People like different things. But there's a problem when you're inciting further and further anger and obsessing over how it ruined this or broke that. It's not that hard to say "I didn't care for it" and move on.

Not you specifically, @wild cove, but in general.

[wide bronze]

You can dislike whatever you dislike but shoving it down other people's throats or blaming it on the wrong reasons is just... blegh

Though the diehard fanatics are also not helping things either

[crisp ravine]

How about this

I hate all of you equally

Is that acceptable

[wide bronze]

Labeling anyone who dislikes the show as a white supremacist... like what

[nova slate]

people will say "not every media should be made for everyone" and then go on to bitch about how something doesn't cater to their exact wants for a series

[foggy saffron]

real

[small sphinx]

There is a weird thing where people are drawn to bad news/negative things. I just think about a couple of characters at my workplace and what they do daily for example, sharing and spreading lies/negative things for their own betterment, it’s like they feed off of the energetic buzz it gives them.

[crisp ravine]

Let’s not act like there aren’t mfs in this server who were complaining about a lack of white people tho

[wide bronze]

Lmao yeah...

[wild cove]

Most of them left now

[crisp ravine]

I wanna tag them so badly

[wide bronze]

I personally am not really liking the show, I'd give it like a solid 5.5/10

[crisp ravine]

I like it more than ahsoka but that’s a low bar to set

[wide bronze]

Lazy storyboarding/writing, poor acting, too many marketing/product placement schemes

[crisp ravine]

That’s Star Wars for you

[wide bronze]

Fantastic setpiece designs though

[wide bronze]

I feel like it's even worse than normal

[narrow lotus]

George just designing the entire prequels to sell toys lmao

[crisp ravine]

I think that’s a symptom of them using savi workshop hilts

[wide bronze]

That and them CLEARLY FLASHING AND SHOWING THEM

[silk jacinth]

Getting angry at a show because it has people of colour is so dumb

[wide bronze]

screams

[wide bronze]

Agreed

[wild cove]

The bit where they stopped for an ice cold can of Diet Coke was a bit weird in hindsight

[crisp ravine]

I had a customer come in who disliked the show bc the actors weren’t Star Wars fans

But like

Can you fucking blame them

[narrow lotus]

though they were probably told to do that by marketing
so I can't really blade the director or anyone, but some dumb suit in an office somewhere

[silk jacinth]

Dude Harrison Ford could care less about SW

[crisp ravine]

Being cast in a Star Wars thing is like being marked for death

[silk jacinth]

And he played fucking Han Solo

[narrow lotus]

like I always remember the movie Grandma's Boy and the fucking Vitamin Water placed conspicuously in every scene lmao

[narrow lotus]

wait until you hear how Alec Guinness felt about it

[wide bronze]

Fallout actors didn't know anything about fallout for the most part and that show wad amazing

[wild cove]

Ever seen Demolition Man?

[crisp ravine]

Like I’d rather be publicly executed than cast in live action Star Wars

[wild cove]

That movie has the best product placement I’ve ever seen

[crisp ravine]

Anyways I’d love to stay and shit but the new deep rock season calls

[wide bronze]

Nah it's definitely Mac & Me

If anything I kind of wish that acolyte was either better than it is or worse, because if it was worse it'd be entertaining bad, but right now it just feels meh, outside of the fights in 5

[silk jacinth]

The directors and writers (specially writers should know about SW)

Not being hardcore fans but know the basics at least

[wild cove]

My main complaint is honestly the pacing

[uncut kayak]

I think that's been the problem with all of their series

[wild cove]

It feels like we’re just getting started and it’s more than halfway over

[nova slate]

writers and directors should absolutely care, but if an actor can play the role well while also not giving a shit about the series (lookin at you Harrison) fuck it, they got the best performance

[small sphinx]

Yeah, I feel that too, the cliffhanger in 4 was weirdly paced.

[wild cove]

They either need to move a lot fucking faster or start having 12+ ep seasons

[uncut kayak]

apart from andor lol because that had 12? episodes

[cosmic siren]

Is it bad of me that I find it hilarious that individual people seem to think they have the final say in what is or isn’t Star Wars?

[wide bronze]

I just think the story isn't great, and waaaaay overly predictable

[narrow lotus]

in some interview they said it was cut off from where they intended to end it

it definitely feels like it was intended to be a binge release show
probably meant to be 6 episodes originally

[nova slate]

I think it's funny how many people have assumed that a single person in the company is supposedly to blame for an entire ip apparently going to shit

[small sphinx]

It just felt really weird, like whooooosh…. the end.

[uncut kayak]

Does anyone else find the endings of each episode weirdly cut?

[small sphinx]

Yep, my biggest gripe.

[wide bronze]

Yes

[wide bronze]

WELLLLL

That's a discussion for another chat lmao

[wild cove]

I miss the days of 22 episode seasons

[uncut kayak]

each episode being an hour long too

none of this 28 minutes business

[narrow lotus]

saaaaaaame

[small sphinx]

Yeah. It was nice that Andor had time to breathe and allow us to soak up the dystopian Empiric atmosphere and tone.

[ocean jewel]

i was there too. i had this happen with other shows as well. being nitpicky to the point of forgetting why i enjoyed the series/story in the first place

[small sphinx]

32 minutes of weekly product placements and horrible advertising would like to have a word with you 😂

[ocean jewel]

i personally like the shorter episodes. although wish we'd get more of them

[small sphinx]

It must be my age, I grew up watching old sci fi shows that were about an hour long, sometimes these modern shows feel chomped or often rushed.

[wild cove]

Rushed is a good word for it

[wide bronze]

I miss the expanse

Such a good show

[ocean jewel]

i just want to be able to watch shorter episodes. sometimes its hard to find an hour uninterupted to watch

[wild cove]

I don’t really mind the shorter runtime. Just when it’s only 8 episodes it feels stingy

[regal shell]

we just need 10 hours of content for a season. 10 1 hour eps or 20 half hour eps

[wide bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/expanse-smiley-gif-15197964

[lunar pebble]

I wonder how sabersmiths will create qimir’s saber because both blades come from the same side. The emitter of the 2nd is buried under the 1st

[weary sable]

Honestly the pacing is a huge issue that I see in both Ahsoka and The Acolyte.

Ahsoka is also suffering from a massive lack of context tbh.

I get that Filoni wanted Ahsoka to stand as its own show, but it really shouldn't have.

Everything that happened in Ahsoka aside from Sabine getting Qui-Gon'ned was actually pretty reasonable given what happened in Rebels.

But none of that was mentioned or shown.

[wide bronze]

Not easily. It's two separate sabers with a twist mechanism to split it. Basically a staff with one side being a dagger. Issue is it's length is like... shorter than a Yoda hilt?

[weary sable]

The Acolyte feels too slow as well. We're on episode 5 of The Acolyte and just now getting our first large-scale action scene.

[narrow lotus]

have you read the books? they go so much further
the show basically ends in arc 2 of 3

[weary sable]

Was the action scene some of the best dueling we've gotten in a while? Yes.
Was it worth waiting 5 episodes for? I'm not sure.

[silk jacinth]

https://x.com/StarWars0nly/status/1806450630107508991?s=19

Star Wars Only (@StarWars0nly) on X

Manny Jacinto (The Stranger) training for #TheAcolyte EP 5 🔥

Twitter · Jun 27, 2024, 10:12 PM

[narrow lotus]

well, it was pitched as a "murder mystery" show not an "action combat" show so I'm okay with it

[wide bronze]

It's a really bad murder mystery though

Like really bad

[lunar pebble]

Yeah it’s gonna be tough. I mean, yes they can do a longer hilt with 2 crystals (1 each split hilt) but the 2nd hilt won’t have a blade unless you attach it after disconnecting. So unlike a conventional staff where both blades are coming from opposite ends, with this either you have to use the connected hilt and only have 1 blade attached or disconnect them from the beginning and attach the blades as one would normally do.

It would be amazing to be able to do it like he did but idk how that will work

[weary sable]

It's definitely a murder mystery.

I'm slowly warming up to The Acolyte (y'all can thank Qimir for that) but if we don't get a second season then it's yordver.

[wide bronze]

I studied noir

So it's especially painful

🤣

[weary sable]

Like, Film Noir?

If that's the case then I could see how you'd be frustrated lol

[wide bronze]

Not just film, as noir's also in literature

[weary sable]

Ahhhhhhhhh

Sorry you have to see this then.

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-noir-rain-gif-22257900

[weary sable]

Honestly I don't think the bare bones (like, just the premise) of The Acolyte are too bad, but as usual, the execution falls flat.

[small sphinx]

Yep, Poirot would’ve given up.

[wide bronze]

@weary sable have you seen LA Confidential?

One of the best.

[weary sable]

Unfortunately no.

I don't really watch movies. Heck I barely watch Star Wars episodes.

I watched the Acolyte in small chunks like a degenerate.

[wide bronze]

I'd recommend it sometime!

It's a classic

[weary sable]

The last time I was able to sit through long episodes was actually the Ahsoka series.

[wide bronze]

Ahh

[weary sable]

And y'all know how I am about Rebels.

[narrow lotus]

So you know exactly what happened on Brendok, then? Do tell.

[proud notch]

Sorry I was gone for a bit but I like y'all points on Theory. I also would say his dropshipping shit makes me doubt his statement

[weary sable]

Also, for the record: I do think Ahsoka was a huge disappointment. But it's my disappointment, and I liked Rebels too much to hate it.

[proud notch]

I personally liked Ahsoka but I can see why people don't

[silk jacinth]

Don't forget his horrible lightsaber

[proud notch]

Which one?

I haven't seen any of them, but I know he's a TXQ reseller

[weary sable]

Ahsoka did many things wrong, including the absolute blasphemous depiction of Sabine that lacked details about her past.
But I've chosen to enjoy Ahsoka, and I think from now on, I'm just gonna enjoy The Acolyte as well.

[weary sable]

Which one? The Tactical Warhead one?

[proud notch]

Valid

[narrow lotus]

the turd saber

[proud notch]

Pics?

[weary sable]

The Acolyte has been a mess up until now, and I agree, but the mess is slowly cleaning itself up, just as it did during Ahsoka.

[weary sable]

The trend with Disney Star Wars shows seems to be "bad at first, good or even amazing by the end of it".

[lone coral]

That last sentence is how I approach almost all media now. I choose to like the things I watch.

[proud notch]

What the fuck is this

[silk jacinth]

I just want to poke my fucking eyes out when I see that thing

[proud notch]

This is a Jedi's weapon?

[narrow lotus]

and he skimped out on fabrication of it so the shroud thing started breaking and people gave SP Sabers (who handled the modeling and machining) enough shit over it that he quit the hobby

[proud notch]

Oh my god

[cosmic siren]

pretty much. i didnt much care for andor and skipped it until my fiance asked to watch it with me

[narrow lotus]

(trying to find the other one since idk if/where I saved any pics of it)

[lone coral]

That is horrendously ugly.

[regal shell]

I want to see it in real speed

[proud notch]

Yeah I was going through some videos of his and I'm just extremely disappointed he's the most subscribed SW YouTuber

Fuckin Ray Park comments on his Instagram videos and it's sad

[silk jacinth]

Nick Gillard too

[proud notch]

That's the Cin Drallig guy right?

[silk jacinth]

Yes

[lone coral]

Yep

[proud notch]

sigh

[weary sable]

Also, for me personally, one of my favourite parts of any piece of media is the visuals.

Disney Star Wars, if nothing else, has absolutely god-tier visuals.

[proud notch]

Like the dude agrees with Andrew Tate, why do people defend his ass

[small sphinx]

Aye, me too. I always get the art books as accompaniments, like a good sauce on your favourite burger.

[weary sable]

This is gonna be a very controversial take, but Admiral Holdo's Hyperspace Ram was one of the single coolest shots in Star Wars history.

Argue with a wall.

[proud notch]

Real, and costumes

[lone coral]

It's super disappointing that SWTheory has the reach and platform that he does.

[proud notch]

So disappointing

[lone coral]

I totally agree. My jaw dropped in the theater.

[weary sable]

One of my favourite parts of the saber hobby and Star Wars in general is the design aspect.

[small sphinx]

Especially that Anime sound edit version 😂

[weary sable]

Like, I'm gonna throw my heart on the floor.

[lone coral]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-disgusting-david-david-rose-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20256047

[weary sable]

I don't care how bad Star Wars' writing gets from hereon out.
If it remains visually appealing, I will still pay attention.
I may be pirating the Star Wars. But I'll still be around.

[narrow lotus]

Ahh here's the original griftsaber
$800 for a Xeno2 core 🤣

[wide bronze]

He dropships, not resells. He doesn't quality check the hilts and keep them in hand, he dropships them straight from the txq factories

[wide bronze]

And that was 850$

[silk jacinth]

That one doesn't look bad

But the price

The fuck?

[wide bronze]

Ikr

[proud notch]

You're right, I spoke quickly

[lone coral]

But remember, according to him, the ones who like the Disney stuff are the shills...

[proud notch]

Agreed, I actually do like this one, but not for that price

[narrow lotus]

If you enjoyed that scene and the implications of using that as a weapon... I urge you to check out Ryk Brown's "The Frontiers Saga"

[wide bronze]

https://youtu.be/f1TFYzYects?si=sdE-wJBAMN83wnET

[weary sable]

Duly noted.
But I will say that I've already used it as inspiration to take it a step further in my own fictional universe.

(One of my main characters in my universe blows up a planet by ramming a starship into it at "post-light speed")

[silk jacinth]

I like the emitter, tsuba and pommel

The middle part not so much

[proud notch]

And then he speaks out of both sides of his mouth, encouraging peace and civility while mocking wookieepedia and JJ for doing their jobs

[weary sable]

I've seen this video probably a million times.
Sad face emote.

[proud notch]

One thing I wish more companies would do is have more greeblies that look like buttons, like how the prequel sabers are

[silk jacinth]

Exactly

Add stuff to the saber

Don't make it look empty

[lone coral]

Exactly. Having strong feelings one way or the other isn't inherently a bad thing. But being so transparently dishonest is shameful, especially for someone with that kind of reach in this space.

[proud notch]

Context for last part: when he said JJ sucks because he wanted to blow up coruscant instead of hosnian prime

[nova slate]

a true palpatine move if I've ever seen

[weary sable]

The phrase "Niatoos Palpatine" came into my mind in response to this comment.
What have you done??

[proud notch]

Or just never encouraging a welcoming and inclusive space. Eckhart's Ladder is critical of the Disney stuff, but he's super welcoming and shit, and if I remember correctly he's apart of the same book club Alex and Mollie from SW Explained are on

[nova slate]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-skywalker-what-have-i-done-confused-sad-gif-3575836

[proud notch]

Which, btw, SW Explained is like just the best, he was my first star wars YouTuber back in '15 when I was getting back into the fandom as a teen

[lone coral]

I like Eckhart's a lot, for those exact reasons. You can dislike something without being a dick to the people who do like it.

[proud notch]

You turned them against me???!

[weary sable]

See, even Eckhart's Ladder isn't always critical. He still has his moments of praise.

I've never seen SWT say a good thing about Disney SW.

[proud notch]

Mando s2

That's like the only one

And Tales of the Jedi

[weary sable]

I think I literally just saw Eckhart's Ladder say Ep5 of Acolyte was cool.

Like deadass I'm so sure I saw it pass me by on my feed.

[proud notch]

He liked it but didn't like the directing, saying he didn't like how Qimir scampered off several times, which... fair criticism

[weary sable]

Indeed.

But it's not even a backhanded compliment.

It's straight praise and straight criticism.

The way it should be.

[lone coral]

Yeah, Eck is really measured in his videos. They're about what he likes and didn't like. What they aren't about is why you shouldn't like it, and how everyone involved is insulting the "real fans"

Thats my main issue with the hate train. I like debate. I love explaining how I saw this scene or that movie, and why I like or dislike that. But I don't try to dictate what you should or shouldn't like, or insult anyone involved in the creative process, even if I didn't like it.

[silk jacinth]

Eck and Generation Tech are the top for me

[lone coral]

Eck and Screencrush are my go to review/easter egg channels. Other than that, my whole youtube is gamers and makers.

[weary sable]

There's this one guy, I think his name is Bombastic Clips?

He seems chill.

The rest of my YouTube is crafters.