THE ACOLYTE

[olive dust]

do u think they’re real

[weary sable]

I FUCKING HOPE THEY ARE

[cosmic siren]

my man pulled off the bull shit nobody well but oh my god the dark side has never been so attractive in a man

[olive dust]

like they gotta be right?

[silk jacinth]

What if he isn't actually a Sith?

[olive dust]

Dude same I was like no way he’s gonna call this bad too right.. right?

[olive dust]

Well he said it himself he’s not but the Jedi would call him one

[weary sable]

I would assume he says his line because the Jedi have no other name for darksiders.

[cosmic siren]

i legitimately hope hes only the apprentice

[olive dust]

Never would I have thought Jason from the good place would make me gay

[narrow lotus]

bro really just put his cloak on backwards like

https://tenor.com/view/drax-i-am-sure-invisible-gif-20449300

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/thirst-is-stong-darth-vader-gif-10940529

All of you today

[weary sable]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-in-black-shirt-thirsty-overflow-hexen-so-gif-11884310

[nova slate]

THAT’S WHO IT IS? I wasn’t paying attention to the cast so I thought it was Ben from Umbrella academy at first but then figured it was someone else

[cosmic siren]

night and fucking day oh my god

[cosmic siren]

there is no way these are the same people

[shrewd heron]

My wife and I yelled BORTLES when that mask came off

[olive dust]

HAHAHA same dude

[shrewd heron]

Duvaaallll

[olive dust]

My girl had no idea what I was talking about when I did that😭

He needs all the praise for this role for real

What a standout

[shrewd heron]

We really wanted it to be him, and we're not let down

[weary sable]

For this role? For his ARMS bro.

Honestly I need that Sith lord to take his shirt off, move over Yord.

Qimir really broke Yord's neck and was like "hey bitch, I'm the hottie now".

[weary sable]

LITERALLY THO

[cosmic siren]

qimir snapped yords neck and i legitimately felt like gagging for a good 2 minutes after

[potent cape]

So earlier in the press tour for acolyte

Jecki's actress was like "He's really good at his stunts"

and Qimir's actor was like "What stunts I don't get to do anything fun <.<"

[weary sable]

"I don't get to do anything fun,"
casually snaps Yord's neck

[olive dust]

snap my neck

[weary sable]

casually flexes his massive arms

"QIMIR COULD BREAK MY NECK TOO AND I'D THANK HIM"

"QIMIR STEP ON ME"

There are gonna be so many goddamn thirst tweets about Qimir in the weeks to come.

Frankly I'm here for it.

[potent cape]

Jecki's actress was also like "He does cool tricks with his lightsaber"

So it's been pretty known who he is lmao

[proud notch]

I'm so glad I didn't watch press shit

But it was pretty obvious Qimir was the Sith

[crisp ravine]

i am so here for the saber shank

that was filthy

[weary sable]

I'M SAYING

[potent cape]

Good, so much of the show has actually been spoiled lmao

[crisp ravine]

concept of this episode was great tho, i loved that old fan film of maul hunting jedi in a forest

damn bro qimir is fucking YOLKED

[olive dust]

HAHAHAHA

[cosmic siren]

straight up cock diesel

[weary sable]

I ACCIDENTALLY TRIED TO PIN THIS

THEN I REALIZED I DON'T HAVE PIN PERMS IN THIS SERVER

[cosmic siren]

DO IT!

[weary sable]

SCREECHING

[cosmic siren]

AVSATI! WE NEED YOU!

[weary sable]

AVSATI PLEASE YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO THE FUNNIEST SHIT RN

[shrewd heron]

29 minutes long

[olive dust]

https://tenor.com/view/so-hot-nigel-hazel-rachelle-first-wives-club-its-hot-over-here-gif-22342063

[crisp ravine]

okay lets be real, the hardest death in this episode was pips death

[olive dust]

Nah

Jecki

Pips not dead

Surely he’s not dead

[crisp ravine]

i knew she was cooked the second she had a scene w qimir

if they decided to let jecki survive an encounter with a sith lord i woulda waltered so hard

[weary sable]

Jecki's death was brutal but honestly Yord dying without a lightsaber even being involved was SICKKK.

[shrewd heron]

Dunno, when he stabbed through that chick then force pulled the dude on the same saber

[olive dust]

I really didn’t want Jecki to die yet bc she killed it so hard

[weary sable]

HONESTLY SO FUCKING SICK

[crisp ravine]

people were getting ragdolled this episode

[cosmic siren]

you dont see neck snaps often in star wars so when you do its fucking jarring in the most perfect way

[crisp ravine]

it wasnt a very well done neck snap but it still gets points

[tight sierra]

WHAT IS HIS WORKOUT ROUTINE

[shrewd heron]

It was brutal

[cosmic siren]

it legit made me sick XD

[proud notch]

I watched the trailers, which is annoying that a lot is in them, but I don't particularly care for cast interviews

[crisp ravine]

we need a verdict from @wild cove

[weary sable]

THANKS SEVEN

[cosmic siren]

YES!

[tight sierra]

This is MY SPOILER THREAD

NOT YOURS

[crisp ravine]

this episode gets bonus points for hand to hand combat and HEADBUTTING A LIGHTSABER

[weary sable]

SORRY

[proud notch]

Seven rn

[cosmic siren]

i love that yord used the cortosis helmet as a weapon against qimir

[crisp ravine]

hes smart asf for doin that too man

[weary sable]

I'm so used to pinning funny shit in my own server that I forgot I'm not a mod in this one LMAO

[weary sable]

Unfortunately for him, [sound effect of bone breaking]

[crisp ravine]

id beat the shit outta somebody if their helmet just blocked one of the deadliest weapons in the universe

[tight sierra]

I need his helmet just to hit people with

[cosmic siren]

ok legit noticing this now watching it again. i LOVE the sparks the saber makes deactivating after hitting the cortosis

[crisp ravine]

ngl bruh if they try to bring cortosis into the empire era im gonna lose it

[shrewd heron]

I am rewatching it as well

[weary sable]

Meanwhile I'm writing music lol

[hoary star]

Legitimately thought they'd be safe for the season

[crisp ravine]

i wont complain about main characters getting iced

[weary sable]

Everyone else: Talking about the Acolyte and rewatching the latest episode
Meanwhile me: Thirsting over a Darksider genuinely for the first time and struggling with lyric timing in the background

[crisp ravine]

after sabine survived being impaled we need sabers to feel like they are sabers again

[cosmic siren]

this mans work out routine rivals that of wolverine!

[weary sable]

Real.

But also, you leave my daughter out of this.

[weary sable]

QIMIR'S ARMS BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[cosmic siren]

i legit cant get over this fucker

[crisp ravine]

that looks straight up disproportionate

[hoary star]

The routine is steroids and it's not particularly a secret

[weary sable]

We gotta get Nightwing to weigh in on this.

[cosmic siren]

dont care. my man looks amazing

[crisp ravine]

i doubt hes in the spoiler channel

[tight sierra]

Are you making a fancam

[weary sable]

No I'm legit writing music rn LOL

Also, who makes fancams for Sith lords?

[potent cape]

Who doesn't

[cosmic siren]

better than fridge shaped ben solo

[potent cape]

Have you seen Vader

[hoary star]

Qimir being the sith lord is the lamest poorest written part of the show so far

[crisp ravine]

its not a criticism trust me

[tight sierra]

What's Qimir's fan club called?

[weary sable]

He's in the user list...?

[potent cape]

What, how

[weary sable]

Qiminions.

[weary sable]

DAMN I DID NOT REALIZE I WAS THIS DOWN BAD

[cosmic siren]

i subscribe to this!

[weary sable]

I need to be put down.

[tight sierra]

It's gotta be two words

[potent cape]

by Qimir?

[weary sable]

YUHHHHHH

[tight sierra]

Like Jecki Jam, Sol Patrol, Yord Horde

[hoary star]

Just like it was poorly done and overly blatant on who it was gonna be

[cosmic siren]

move over yord hord, the fucking qiminions are here

[weary sable]

Nah if we're making fancams of him we gotta go full K-Pop fandom mode.

[weary sable]

But those are all lightsiders.

[potent cape]

So because you managed to see the hints given by the show, it's bad.

[tight sierra]

Do NOT call it the Qimir Quiver

[weary sable]

The darkside guy gets to have a one-word fanbase.

QIMINIONS

[crisp ravine]

realistically who else could it have been tho? i thought it would be lame but the alternative is so much worse. If its just some random fucker, then that means we are guaranteed another flashback episode that no one cares about just to establish a character that could have existed from the beginning of the show

[cosmic siren]

THIS!

[potent cape]

If it was some random, people would've been screaming plot holes.

[cosmic siren]

qiminions is too good to pass up

if marvel can have cumberbitches, we get qiminions

[proud notch]

If it was Koril or Aniseya...

The Internet would have a field day

[hoary star]

They weren't hints they were bold font here's the answer

[weary sable]

"DIDN'T WE SEE THEM DIE IN A FIRE??!!?!?!111!/1!?!!?1/!?!?!?!?!1/!"

[potent cape]

Do you know what dramatic irony is and its use in storytelling?

[proud notch]

Koril we didn't see a body

[crisp ravine]

ive never read a single thing in my life

[proud notch]

I was worried that was where the episode was going

[weary sable]

Yeah ik I'm just saying that's what people would've been screaming if that'd been the case.

[potent cape]

How are the HR books going

[weary sable]

Yo I gotta make Qimir's helmet though.

[proud notch]

Also, I feel like the Qimir line in the trailer made it more obvious

[crisp ravine]

just finished cataclysm. idk if there are any other novels left

[weary sable]

No EVA foam, I guess we're going the route of Cardboard.

[nova slate]

A member of the Qimir quadrant

[crisp ravine]

i think i need a qimir helmet ngl

[weary sable]

I'm sure Darth Papyrus has tips on working with papery materials.

[tight sierra]

Twitter has settled on QimirPeers

[weary sable]

Qiminions

[weary sable]

TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER.
WHERE TF ARE MY QIMIRQUEERS??

[weary sable]

FOUL

ABSOLUTELY FOUL

[crisp ravine]

thaats fucking wild

[olive dust]

😭😭😭

[proud notch]

Bro

[weary sable]

STILL FUNNY THO

[proud notch]

Very

[light ermine]

I really hope someone starts making blade effects for Proffie/CFX to imitate those cortosis hits, shut downs and blade restarts. Such a cool effect

[weary sable]

Closed my lyric-writing shenanigans to play Genshin but I'm still here thirsting.

[potent cape]

Acolyte haters be like "why didn't Bazil tell the council about the sith"

[crisp ravine]

"the liberal media is lying about the sith threat!!"

[proud notch]

The woke mob covered them up

[potent cape]

I kinda love Qimir's edgy sith voice modulator

[olive dust]

Or sol!!!

[potent cape]

It'll be okay, bud.

[olive dust]

I accidently spoiled myself early on because I liked the sound design of it in the trailer, so I was messing around with it and pitched it up and it sounded just like manny😭

[tight sierra]

Oof

[proud notch]

Omg

[potent cape]

Acolyte haters be like: How did Jecki arrest Mae when Mae was strong enough to kill Indara

[weary sable]

Acolyte haters be like: "Why did Qimir try to kill Mae??" when bro literally says exactly why.

[hoary star]

Okay but like that's kinda legit...

[olive dust]

To be fair they still did make it pretty obvious it was him on the 2nd and 4th ep

[lone coral]

Man, yall type too fast for me to read everything. Best episode yet, this shit was dope. And brutal.

[proud notch]

Neat detail, you can see straps on the armor

[potent cape]

Maybe Indara was old and actually kinda shit at her job. 🤷‍♂️

[proud notch]

How did Jecki go toe to toe with a Sith Lord who killed 5 Jedi single handedly

[hoary star]

Absolutely the best episode so far

[potent cape]

Same way Obi-wan went toe to toe with a sith lord who killed many jedi single handedly

some people just built different

[proud notch]

And then I say: suspend disbelief and consider the tension of a scene, hypothetical person

I love Qimir's hello before he grabs Mae

[olive dust]

Canon wise part of it could be showing Mae the lesson

[proud notch]

Can we make that a new meme?

[olive dust]

But jecki reallyyyy fucked em up so idk

[potent cape]

I love Jecki's make up

[olive dust]

He got real mad when she got his mask off

[cosmic siren]

jeckis make up was legitimately beautiful

[potent cape]

Real good character design

[olive dust]

Quimir really shanked her so fast

[lone coral]

I think Darth Teeth might be the first darksider I actually want to cosplay. Also, hell yes bringing cortosis weave armor back into canon.

[cosmic siren]

she was getting her ass beat the entire time XD

[potent cape]

This isn't the first time Cortosis weave is in canon, is it?

[cosmic siren]

in live action yes

[olive dust]

Could’ve sworn I’ve seen similar in Jedi fallen order

[potent cape]

ah fair

[cosmic siren]

its been in the comics in canon before

[tight sierra]

https://fxtwitter.com/ahsokasgoggles/status/1805796397880688799

[lone coral]

I think in live action it is. I don't recall it in animation either

[potent cape]

I think it was in a rebels episode.

but it has been in canon books/comics

[cosmic siren]

someone dueled vader with a cortosis blade in the comics. fucked with his head completely when his saber turned off. he still killed her though, i think with the blade itself

[potent cape]

I think Aphra(?) had some too

[lone coral]

Fair enough. I unfortunately don't have all of Star Wars stored away in my brain.

[potent cape]

Frankly not good enough tbh 😛

[lone coral]

And I haven't read any of the canon books/comics.

[lone coral]

Hey man, sometimes I need to remember stuff. Like.... uh.... damn it....

[bright token]

this was a fair step up from the rest of the show so far, super impressed with the choreography

[cosmic siren]

its been in acolyte, a new dawn, a rebels magazine, the new thrawn books, war of the bounty hunters, doctor aphra, hidden empire, and uprising

[tight sierra]

Was that with a woman who gave a monolog about how his saber won't work for minutes?

[cosmic siren]

i believe so

[tight sierra]

That's EU

[cosmic siren]

ah never mind then

[proud notch]

Yes

[cosmic siren]

well theres something they cant bitch about then at least XD

[proud notch]

Also another neat detail: Yord's saber shroud is more like bunny ears

Based off this 2nd pic, I thought it was a shroud, but it's not

[cosmic siren]

yords got a bunny fursona XD

[lone coral]

Isn't that Sol's saber?

[narrow lotus]

I just loved Yord's line "He doesn't even follow the rules of combat!"
like you knew he was cooked after that

[proud notch]

No, this one's sol's

[potent cape]

lmao, starlight beacon flashbacks

[cosmic siren]

honestly

[lone coral]

Ah, gotcha. There's similar design elements.

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/high-republic-the-fallen-star-the-high-republic-star-wars-star-wars-books-gif-24377644

[cosmic siren]

i dont remember him using trakata in that at all. anyone else?

[proud notch]

I agree, I'm glad that in motion there is some distinction, but the prop photos from a month ago didn't help the thought

[proud notch]

He didn't, he just had a very wild fighting style that probably wouldn't have registered with their forms of lightsaber combat

[cosmic siren]

i hope disney pushes some high republic hilts at batuu

[proud notch]

Also he straight up used the Saint-14 method of headbutting the blades

[proud notch]

I hope Hasbro shows off the Qimir figure soon

[weary sable]

I home the Qimir figure has arms...

And boulder shoulders,,,

[lone coral]

I have a theory that thats why they're ok with the thiccboi sabers in this show. They're basically first run new Gamaxy's Edge sabers.

[cosmic siren]

i get the feeling thats why as well

so as a hater of blue and green saber over use. am i the only one who thinks a blue saber has never looked better than on sol?

[proud notch]

I can't wait for the star wars fans to put it in a jar

[narrow lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-oh-scared-cat-animal-gif-21828684

[lone coral]

The shroud portions of both sabers have inverted design elements. Sol's cuts back, revealing more of the core structure. Yord's extends in, hiding more of what appears to be a similar core structure. I really like the visual language of these sabers.

[proud notch]

Oooh good point

Also Azrael, are you in Rebel Legion/501st?

[lone coral]

No, I'm not. I've thought about joining Rebel Legion, but life has always seemed to have gotten in the way. I'm still interested, though.

[proud notch]

Valid

I'm currently still working on 501st approval and I also have a Sith for Dark Empire I'm working on

[cosmic siren]

ive gotten the 501st to attend two small town conventions before with a third in august XD

[proud notch]

And now.... Probably Qimir

[proud notch]

I love being a part of it, it's a good community

[lone coral]

For sure Qimir. I've gotta set up my 3d printers, and start working out again, haha.

[proud notch]

I might just keep the big cloak on so I can hide my smol arms

[lone coral]

Or, get just the arms of one of those muscle suits. Keep them hidden beneath the cloak until the opportune moment, then surprise! Darth Teeth becomes Darth Beef!

[proud notch]

Real

[lone coral]

I think I'm going to look into the Rebel Legion again. I realized that the last time I thought about joining, I had about a thousand other things going on.

[proud notch]

Do itttt

Also I think another thing that'll get brought up negativity is when Qimir Force Heals Osha

[lone coral]

I actually like that. It ties into the themes of this show where if the Jedi aren't all good and perfect, maybe the Sith aren't all evil.

I don't think it'll go anywhere significant, but it's an intriguing line of thought.

[proud notch]

Maybe

[weary sable]

"I've accepted my darkness... what have you done with yours?"

[proud notch]

I could see it getting brought up with relation to Qui-Gon

[hollow kindle]

This episode broke the cannon from the prequels. And not a word said about it.

[cosmic siren]

explain how so

[median ocean]

Is canon actually broken? We haven’t seen the ending

[cosmic siren]

lets have the conversation. explain your point of view

[hollow kindle]

The dude pretty much admitted to being a sith.

[median ocean]

They never ceased to exist though. They just hadn’t been seen so the Jedi thought they were gone

[hollow kindle]

This event is big enough to be remembered. Multiple Jedi were killed by one guy

[potent cape]

Considering the show hasn't finished yet, what makes you think there will be witnesses

[weary sable]

Jedi cover shit up a lot, too.

[hollow kindle]

Then they just forget a whole squad of Jedi just disappeared?

[cosmic siren]

5 jedi were killed on tython when bane and zannah were discovered there. their deaths werent even looked into until a team of jedi found their lightsabers later on ambria

[potent cape]

Absolutely not, but the only jedi who knows that it was a sith, were there.

[weary sable]

Also, the quote was "you might call me a Sith", i.e. implying that the Jedi would refer to him as such, despite him not being a true Sith.

[potent cape]

So a squad a jedi disappear.

How?

[weary sable]

Also, just because Jedi die doesn't mean it's a Sith outright, at least in the eyes of the council.

See: Ki-Adi Mundi.

Not to mention, it's the High Republic, where non-Force-sensitives have killed Jedi before.

[median ocean]

There’s so many ways this can play out but to assume there is a broken canon just seems a little presumptive

[hoary star]

Ki-Adi Mundi is the most canon breaking thing in the series so far

and only because we've gotten an age on him from before

[potent cape]

and funnily enough, doesn't break canon

[potent cape]

the same source listed Luke & Leia as different ages though

so like

[cosmic siren]

also. assuming that all the witnesses are killed. theres no reason why the jedi would assume sith. like its beens aying for how long now they believe the sith are extinct.

[hollow kindle]

From discarded legends.

[potent cape]

The surviving jedi have no reason to believe it's a sith.

[potent cape]

You mean from those wildly inaccurate topp trumps cards

[cosmic siren]

same source saying keldor live for 80 years despite plo koon being well over 300

[potent cape]

Same source saying xyz lives for zyx age despite the force extending peoples lifespans?

[proud notch]

Oh my god I just had an idea

What if Sol is framed as the murderer

[cosmic siren]

oh

that could work

they would have to play it VERY carefully

[potent cape]

He would also have to die.

[proud notch]

There's lightsaber wounds, and they could say he has a conflict of interest

[proud notch]

He's definitely dying

[cosmic siren]

but it could work
id much more prefer his death

sol is definitely on the chopping block before this series is done

[hoary star]

Mae is absolutely mercing Sol on the ship

[regal shell]

Mae 100% killing Sol

[proud notch]

But Sol could still be the fall guy

[cosmic siren]

i think shes going to play the role of osha for a bit, then bazil is going to give her back the piece of pip, she wont recognize it. thats when sol will be tipped off. thats when osha will try to kill him

[potent cape]

yeah everyone who knows about the sith are dying, or allied with the sith. It's not going to break canon

[cosmic siren]

weather she does or not is a different story

[regal shell]

Osha going to kill qimir and then no ones knows about him besides the twins

[hoary star]

I'm just curious on how Qimir knows all the people he's sending Mae to merc unless there's some crazy shit like Qimir is mother Koril but due to weird witch stuff is now Qimir

[proud notch]

I think it's gonna be revealed that the witch coven learned of the force birth from the Sith

[regal shell]

Or is qimir the father

[weary sable]

I wanna know what history Qimir has with Sol.

[potent cape]

or the other way around, but yeah

[weary sable]

Qimir is like "you don't recognize me" and Sol is like "hmm vaguely familiar" but ???

[proud notch]

Which is another reason why I think Qimir or the Sith are in on the plot with the witch coven

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-bonk-luke-last-jedi-last-gif-19427313

[proud notch]

Hey man, I won't do it

He'll go in a place of honor, the shelf

[lone coral]

That stick is better than bacon.

[tight sierra]

Join us

[hoary star]

well we got 3 more episodes... I'm assuming this show ends up being a single season long with them just mercing main cast members

[regal shell]

It’ll be like rogue one, everyone dies!

[lone coral]

Haha, I'm looking at the jedi costume standards right now. I don't know if I'd qualify, but I think I've got a good base.

[hoary star]

wouldn't shock me

[proud notch]

RL approval can be pretty tough

[hoary star]

I wanna make my own scout trooper armor... but like also don't want to put in that much work

[lone coral]

Yeah, the standards seem very tough. But I might be able to simply tweak what I already have to work.

[faint urchin]

WHERE IS MY EPISODE 5???

[proud notch]

They're not the most tough of the costuming groups, mercs are insane

[tight sierra]

Send me what you got so far

[faint urchin]

Not gonna read anymore of the chat but I'm dying for the website to update

[tight sierra]

It just released 3 hours 40 minutes ago

[faint urchin]

oh. Thought it released at midnight

[tight sierra]

Are you asking about episode 6

Ah

Yeah

[faint urchin]

No ep 5, 🏴‍☠️

[tight sierra]

Uh

Get outta here

[faint urchin]

LOLOL

[lone coral]

Sure, let me see if I have any photos that are framed halfway decently.

[tight sierra]

Spoilers are free

[faint urchin]

OKURRR

Just wanted to reeee about how I haven't seen it yet

[tight sierra]

This is the danger zone now

[proud notch]

Don't let yourself get spoiled for this one, it's good

Like damn, it was good

[tight sierra]

Get outta here you little scamp lol

[hoary star]

yeah defs the best episode by far

[cosmic siren]

i love it when people yell that the episode was shit and refuse to have a conversation about it

[proud notch]

Enters in, says Acolyte is shit, refuses to elaborate

[faint urchin]

NVM I FOUND ANOTHER SITE WITH IT

I"LL BRB IN 30 MIN

[lone coral]

Sent you a DM.

[hollow kindle]

Other than the fights the episode was nothing spectacular. I roll my eyes at the fact that Mae literally caused all of this but can't comprehend it.

I find it silly.

[lone coral]

It's Star Wars. It's all silly.

The best silly.

[hollow kindle]

Even more silly. No character has been this out of touch.

And that sith guy. His motive is power. How original

[hoary star]

we legit don't know his motive though...

[potent cape]

What's the Sith Code again?

[proud notch]

That is the Sith's MO though

[nova slate]

Takes a day min. For them to upload

[hollow kindle]

He said he wanted to show off his power.

[lone coral]

It's seemed more to me that his motive was to be able to do what he wanted, and teach what he learned.

[hoary star]

he seems to have some connection with the jedi that Mae was sent to kill.

[proud notch]

He also wanted an apprentice

[hollow kindle]

It is but not enough to structure a whole ass show around it.

[potent cape]

He said he wanted to show off his power without it being a crime

He wanted his chains to be broken

[cosmic siren]

have you read literally any sith story.

[potent cape]

I thought the show was structured around two twins.

[proud notch]

But that's the motive of Palpatine in the PT though

[nova slate]

SW canon has always had the same consistency as a mirror with a hammer thrown through it

[hollow kindle]

He does so much manipulation which lends to a lot of story happening.

[proud notch]

I suppose but it's still a motivation of power for power's sake

[hollow kindle]

This guy shows up and says he wants a to display power. Boring.

[proud notch]

Qimir is also manipulating Mae for some end, we can't say for certain till the show is over

[faint urchin]

OH SHIT HE KILLED THEM ALL

[potent cape]

That's, not what he said

[tight sierra]

GET OUTTA HERE YOU'RE NOT DONE YET

[faint urchin]

THIS IS A LIVE REACTION HAHAHA

[proud notch]

Not Ithia Paan

[hoary star]

not that this is related to the convo at hand... but the PT novelizations were actually really good.

[cosmic siren]

ok so this is something thats been bothering me. generation tech has been calling vernestra rwoh the grand master. is there actually any media confirming this or is allen just being a ditz like normal

[potent cape]

If you listen to the dialogue, he says he wants freedom to wield his power the way he likes, without having to answer to the Jedi.

That's not 'displaying power'

[potent cape]

Nowhere has stated she's grand master.

or a grandmaster for that fact

[cosmic siren]

so allen just being allen. thanks

[hollow kindle]

It hints at it. He is aggressive which aggressive people want to dominate.

[nova slate]

Force anarchy more like

[faint urchin]

HOL UP DOES JECKI HAVE A CORRAN HORN?

[nova slate]

Not in the chaos sense but the “no gods no masters” kind I bet

[hollow kindle]

My point is really isn't how he wants to use it. It's that no story happened before we got here. He pretended to be a guy who sources items. Then all of a sudden comes out and has a speech about power. No story what so ever with him.

[tight sierra]

No

[lone coral]

It's almost like the story isn't over yet...

[potent cape]

He's a guy who pretends to source items, hiding his true identity

because he has to hide his true identity

& the show isn't about him lmao

[hollow kindle]

I hope there is more. But 5 episodes in. More then half way and not much happens. Underwhelming to me.

[cosmic siren]

we still have a flash back kelnacca duel to look forward too, and vernestras duel with something ive got hopes

[potent cape]

yeah vern still has to show up and use her whip

[cosmic siren]

and likely the heracy of the jedi with sol or his team burning down the brendok cult

[potent cape]

What's really funny about Vern though

is her species has a lifespan of 70ish

She's like 116

and yet Mundi is the problem 🙂

[hollow kindle]

This show should have used Yoda instead of Mundi.

[potent cape]

except yoda is on the council

is a grand master

and defeats the entire purpose of that scene

[hollow kindle]

I don't mean directly in this scene.

[lone coral]

Not to mention, every time a new Star Wars shows has legacy characters, everyone bitches about how "they don't do anything original"

[potent cape]

that's the only scene Mundi is in

Where else would he be replaced lmao

[cosmic siren]

potentially not the grand master yet. havent seen him get the role as of yet.

[potent cape]

Yoda was a grand master many years ago, I think?

[hollow kindle]

They used Mundi because Yoda was rejected. Thus that scene was created. I mean not replace him there but a different scene involving Yoda.

[cosmic siren]

at least that i know of. havent finished the high republic books 100ish years before hand he was only on the high council, with ry ki-sakka as the grand master

could be possible that hes been ellivated at the end of phase 3 idk yet

[potent cape]

There were many grand masters in the HR. There's a difference between Grand Master, and head of the order

Xo Lahru, Pre-Tre, and Yoda were grand masters

[nova slate]

What a nightmare of a hierarchy

[potent cape]

Yoda was grand master in TPM and mace was head of the order 🤷‍♂️

[hollow kindle]

Sol and others could have simply approached the council about this guy, do we even have any sort of name?, and they reject his existence and Sol goes Rogue.

[nova slate]

I can only imagine the confusion that comes up with paperwork (holo-work?) and Jedi bureaucracy

[cosmic siren]

from what ive been reading in the high republic yes they were all grand master but none of them were grand master at the same time. technically pra-tre veter and ry ki-sakka were at the same time but that was only because pre-tre was lost inside nihil space and killed

[hollow kindle]

Thus Yoda appearance instead of Mundi.

[potent cape]

All three were at the same time

[cosmic siren]

ight. just seen that on the wiki page. the books made it seem different

[potent cape]

"During the High Republic, the 12 seats on the Council consist of three Grand Masters, including Yoda, Lahru, and Pra-tre Veter."

https://www.starwars.com/news/high-republic-jedi-council-revealed-and-more-from-star-wars-the-high-republic-show

[cosmic siren]

^

[potent cape]

yeah just providing a source lol

[cosmic siren]

if they council found out they would have to share it with the senate. if the senate knew a potentially rogue jedi was out there murdering people the faith in the jedi would be shaken and potentially cause panic.

[weary sable]

Jedi covering shit up and not wanting to get the Senate involved go brrr

Unfortunately for them Palpatine had other plans.

[nova slate]

Idk how it all worked out but maybe Yoda was rejected cause for the team, having him be the one to sorta wave off this situation would be against some kinda characterization bible for someone like Yoda?

[cosmic siren]

and when your only source is "we dont know their name, we dont know their motive, we dont know where they are, or who they are, we only know an accomplice but dont even have her in custody yet" its not worth the risk of saying anything

now IF sol survived his way back to the temple he would absolutely have every justification to tell the council about it, but i get a strong feeling thats not going to happen

[hoary star]

I just wanna know his Darth name

[weary sable]

I wonder if either of them will survive.

[weary sable]

We don't even know if he's a true Banite Sith.

[hoary star]

Everyone is dying IMO

[weary sable]

He says the Jedi would refer to him as a Sith, not that he is one.

[hoary star]

Trueee...

[weary sable]

Because what the fuck else would the Jedi of that era call him.

[hollow kindle]

Sol is strong enough to handle Mae. How can he not survive? They were in the ship by the time the episode ends.

[weary sable]

Hell people back in the day called Ventress a Sith when she wasn't even close.

Just because you call someone one thing doesn't mean they are.

[hollow kindle]

People call all red bladed characters sith.

[potent cape]

weird, because they're not

[hollow kindle]

Hell tie fighter pilots are apparently another look for Vader.

[weary sable]

That's exactly the point.

[cosmic siren]

even a jedi is not immune to a well placed knife in the back

[hollow kindle]

And Stormtroopers are apparently Jedi as well. Seen it in person.

[nova slate]

Who’s to say Mae is the problem for Sol? Maybe he’ll become isolated from his allies somehow due to lies and deception

It’s not really the best look for him to be alive while everyone else he was with is now dead, especially if he’s the one in charge of the group

[weary sable]

Bro watched his Padawan get stabbed three separate times,,,

[cosmic siren]

lets also not forget, mae could very well have a lightsaber now

[weary sable]

Nothing like looting a dead body lmao

[cosmic siren]

with how often she was going for sabers before i dont see her throwing yords away now that shes got it

[tight sierra]

He just watched his friends all die

He's emotionally unbalanced

[cosmic siren]

not only that

his past has been brought to the surface

dudes definitely about to confess his sins of the past

[hollow kindle]

He almost killed no name after all of that soo.

[cosmic siren]

exactly the point

[nova slate]

Lightsabers aren’t exactly common weapons, and with the unwillingness of the council to investigate Sith…

[tight sierra]

What do you do when you see your friend's neck get snapped and your second space daughter got stabbed right in front of you, then have to fly back home?

[cosmic siren]

you fucking break down XD

[tight sierra]

And Mae is there ready to strangle him

[nova slate]

Become a convenient scapegoat? Or die, either is a good option

[faint urchin]

I KNEW IT WAS QIMIR

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

Also his saber cool af

I want it

[weary sable]

Have you seen his arms.

[cosmic siren]

were a little hot and bothered over those arms XD

[nova slate]

Who needs a lightsaber at that point

[weary sable]

I mean Qimir clearly doesn't. The way he snapped Yord's neck?

[cosmic siren]

my mans just having fun at that point

i keep hearing vegeta in my head, couldnt resist

[hollow kindle]

Now that's a pretty cool comparison

[tight sierra]

The fandom menace: this show is obsessed with pronounces
The sith: uses the sickest pronoun-related burn you can make about a child you just murdered

We gotta hire more woke writers, this shit rules so hard.

[weary sable]

"You want me to use pronouns? How about 'it's/dead'?"

[tight sierra]

Thank you Leslye for making Dafne Keen play an alien. This means we can get her back in Star Wars as a human character at some point. It would be a crime for her to go the rest of her life without doing more lightsaber fighting

[cosmic siren]

girl is an amazing martial artist

[nova slate]

Like the Boys hiring actors who might as well be the exact opposite of their characters. Stormfront being played by a Jewish actress and Firecracker being a lesbian irl

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/laura-xmen-spanish-x23-gif-8716101

[cosmic siren]

heard antony starrs actual accent today, i cant recognize him as homelander

[nova slate]

He truly feels like 2 different people, his acting skills are incredible

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/lucas-hood-banshee-antony-starr-gif-18976242

[faint urchin]

He kiwi af

Ok done w episode

Overall pretty solid, liked it more than the last 2, probably because it was mostly action

Qimir goes hard, I remember reading about the material that makes sabers fizzle out, glad they made use of it

Feel like Osha should've just let Sol kill him right then and there tho

[cosmic siren]

the cortosis is brilliant. including that on any sith cosplay i do

[faint urchin]

Idk wtf Mae's plan is but ok

[faint urchin]

Yes that

[faint urchin]

I was wondering why tf they don't use that more often

[cosmic siren]

seven no XD

[faint urchin]

He didn't even go out by saber

That neck snap was clean

8/10

[tight sierra]

It's rare and can break from punches

[faint urchin]

Maybe alloys?

[tight sierra]

Might be as strong as aluminum soda cans

[cosmic siren]

the neck snap legit made me want to gag for a good couple minutes

[faint urchin]

It made me wet

[cosmic siren]

i LOVE how their blades practically explode on contact with it

[tight sierra]

Qimir Peers all Qimir Quiver

[cosmic siren]

fuck off. its qiminions

[tight sierra]

Twitter has decided otherwise

I don't make the rules

[cosmic siren]

twitter cant even decide its own name. they dont get to decide this one

[lone coral]

Qimir Qrew

[tight sierra]

The Elongated Muskrat does not speak for us

[weary sable]

REAL

If you scroll up you'll see that I've been thirsting over Qimir for several hours now.

[faint urchin]

Qimothy

Qimotheus, even

WHY IS EVERYBODY SO SWOLE IN THIS SHOW?

[faint urchin]

Oh dude is good looking but I meant his technique

Also gonna geek out over his saber just one more time

Like yeah it's not practical but as a surprise weapon it fucking rocks

I love how they always give the Sith unique sabers

Also I'm guessing it's confirmed that he's Sith?

[weary sable]

Eh, I didn't see it as such.

He said something along the lines of "you Jedi would call me a Sith", implying that he's not and that the Jedi just don't have a name for people like him.

[potent cape]

or he's being enigmatic and he is the sith

[nova slate]

It’s the woke agenda clearly/s

[faint urchin]

SWOKE AGENDA

[cosmic siren]

if hes legitimately a sith i say hes only the apprentice.

[faint urchin]

Fair assessment

[cosmic siren]

imagine how badass the master is if this is just the apprentice

[faint urchin]

He spoke like a wannabe parent too 💀

"I want a pupil... an acolyte"

He also told Sol "You don't recognize me?" I wonder if he meant as in the Sithy sense or he actually knows him

[nova slate]

I really really don’t want to sound racist as fuck but relations?

[faint urchin]

What kinda cool saber would he have? Shuriken saber? 😂

[faint urchin]

That was my first thought too and I'm Korean

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-ill-allow-it-allowed-gif-4468552

[potent cape]

I believe this has been said somewhere... someone said an acolyte is the apprentices apprentice.

[cosmic siren]

here i am hoping for a duel phase saber

[nova slate]

The funny thing is I am too…

[potent cape]

not in the show, but one of the staff

[faint urchin]

lmao then we aint got no problems

Yeah I was under the impression that Acolytes were the absolute bottom tier apprentice

Probably way off, but maybe he's looking for an Acolyte so he can succeed his own master in the near future

[cosmic siren]

i will fucking defend this for ever. lightsabers blades have NEVER looked so good

[faint urchin]

Like he can secure the legacy of the rULe of TwO

[nova slate]

I doubt Sol would be a dad of any sort, so that’s out of the question. Long lost brother due to Jedi stuff? Maybe. Other idea could be Sol saw young qimir during the fire and didn’t rescue him for reasons unknown?

[cosmic siren]

i seen someone saying the episode was garbage because "where was sol in the duel, why was yord running with his saber out, how coupld jecki handle a sith that just decimated 3 masters, and where did mae get long hair"
like idk where sol was, yord was running with his saber because fun fact, they are also glow sticks and you can use the light while running in a jungle at night, jecki wasnt handling the sith she was getting her ass beat the entire time and mae has had long hair since the start of the series.

[weary sable]

Who tf knows? Maybe Sol trained Qimir before he trained Osha. More will be revealed in the coming episodes.

[nova slate]

That def seems like it could be an option, just theory crafting a bit

[weary sable]

I don't care as long as we get more of his arms tbh.

Wookiepedia currently describes him as being of the Sith Order?

So oof.

[potent cape]

yeah he's most likely the sith unless he was being deceptive

[lone coral]

Remember, wookieepedia only knows what we the audience know about this show. They update as the show goes on.

[cosmic siren]

"might as well call me a sith" theres definitely more to this statement but for the time being its just easier to say he was

[weary sable]

Idk the way he worded it makes me feel like he's more Sith-adjacent than anything else.

[nova slate]

Qimir be like:

[weary sable]

But we'll see.

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-i-lied-gif-21836345

The opportunity was RIGHT there, Cruise.

[nova slate]

What can I say? I’ve been on a smosh binge recently while waiting for more Dropout content

[weary sable]

Fair.

[wild cove]

Broccoli and nofap

[lone coral]

Ooh, that reminds me, I've got to sign up for Dropout.

[weary sable]

It's 2am. I'm gonna hit the sack.

See y'all in a few hours.

[cosmic siren]

dont have too many wet dreams over qimirs arms

[lone coral]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-tell-me-what-to-gif-18578932

[cosmic siren]

"i dont know star wars so im going to blame disney and call them bad"

[potent cape]

that's basically the gist of a lot of the complaints

[cosmic siren]

did inform them it was cortosis and that it was a legends thing before hand so disney is not to blame for this.

[cosmic siren]

i love that this is the thing people are complaining about but then we can sit here like "no this is a legends thing. who doesnt know star wars again?"

[potent cape]

it's also a canon thing, for awhile lol

[cosmic siren]

i mean it started off as a legends thing. they cant blame disney for this idea

[hoary star]

TBF to them unless you're a super nerd you probably don't know about cortosis but also TBF you really couldn't have the same suspension of disbelief as you do for lightsabers in the first place that there's a material that'd counter them

[lone coral]

Sure they can. "Oh, Disney brought in the wrong legends stuff. They don't know what they're doing..."

The only "good" Star Wars for a lot of these people is the version that only exists in their head.

[tight sierra]

Fans run the wiki

So who knows

[potent cape]

fake fans amirite

[cosmic siren]

Nah

Theres definitely more going on but for the time being it’s better to go with all that we know

[tight sierra]

Ur mum's a fake fan

[cosmic siren]

If he says might as well call him a sith then we might as well call him a sith

[lone coral]

With those arms, I'll call him whatever he wants.

[cosmic siren]

XD god damn it

[lone coral]

🤣

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/bjj-jiu-jitsu-takedown-chokehold-martial-arts-gif-26300970

[cosmic siren]

I swear the lot of you want to be mae in this scene

[lone coral]

Hey man, I'm straight (mostly). He's just in really good shape, and he's confident.

[cosmic siren]

I will fully admit I’m bi though I’m far more picky about men than women and married to an amazing gremlin of a woman but fucking damn this man does it for me

[frosty meadow]

cool choreography

the show's definitely got that over the other disney star wars shows

[cosmic siren]

He goes from the nervous no body side kick to an amazing fucking beast of a man

[frosty meadow]

thought it was weird Sol just stood there when Yord went to attack Qimir

[tight sierra]

Kenobi did have choreo, it's just that they didn't have a steadycam

https://tenor.com/view/kenobi-darth-vader-lightsaber-fight-lightsaber-duel-lightsaber-gif-26037820

[frosty meadow]

kenobi's choreo didn't look as fast and fluid as the acolyte's does

granted the camerawork really isn't helping kenobi

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-obi-wan-lightsaber-star-wars-anakin-skywalker-gif-25967890

[urban locust]

Jecki and Yord... fuck.

😭

[tight sierra]

I did some timing. The redshirts had their sabers shorted out for 15 seconds Jecki had hers out for only 8 seconds

can't time the shorting for Sol, Qimir, or Yord's sabers because there's a bunch of dialogue

best to say it's up to the story to dictate how long it lasts

but currently the longest is 15 seconds

[frosty meadow]

I thought yord using the helmet against qimir was clever

[potent cape]

the helmet in general was just a cool thing

[frosty meadow]

I'm not sure about jecki just smacking it off qimir's head though

[wild cove]

I know we’re kidding but I’d say def not steroids. I just looked up the actor and I’d call that a good natural physique.The camera also tends towards making people look much bigger than they are irl

[frosty meadow]

the point of the helmet is kinda to stay on when you take a blow to the head

[wild cove]

Whoops sorry, replying to @weary sable

[potent cape]

Cortosis is notoriously fragile so maybe it just broke

[frosty meadow]

he put the helmet back on though

[potent cape]

Did he?

I only remember him picking it back up.

[frosty meadow]

maybe not

I might have misremembered

I'm pretty sure the helmet was intact though

[potent cape]

nah it does break

hang on I'll get some screenshots

So here is the helmet intact,

fuck that looks terrible quality lmao

Jecki just about to smash

and there it is in two pieces

[frosty meadow]

yeah I just rewatched a clip online

soundfont makers gonna go crazy with all the lightsaber sounds to draw from

[uncut kayak]

💀💀💀

[frosty meadow]

wouldn't qimir be the hole punch?

[uncut kayak]

That was a pretty good episode

But damn the Jedi got slaughtered

Jecki and Yords deaths had me like

[frosty meadow]

choreography looked great but I remember at least two instances where the jedi just stood around doing nothing while their colleagues were getting their asses kicked

once when yord was fighting qimir and the two other jedi had their lightsabers deactivated

again when yord jumped qimir and sol just stood there

[wild cove]

If you watch obi wan real close during duel of the fates most of the time he’s just twirling around by himself off to the side

[frosty meadow]

yeah that's not great either

[uncut kayak]

The choreography from EP5 was actually really damn good, a lot better than I was expecting it to be

[wild cove]

I haven’t watched the last three eps yet, need to catch up but I’m happy to hear they have de-sanitised the lightsaber

Was getting silly watching people get stabbed and walk it off

[frosty meadow]

watching indara die from that knife stab in ep 1 just highlights to me how dumb it was watching characters walk off lightsaber injuries

[silk jacinth]

So you aren't talking about Qimir anymore

[frosty meadow]

so nobody else was surprised qimir was the sith, right?

[silk jacinth]

No

[potent cape]

I assume not

[frosty meadow]

would've been nice to learn more about him first

establish a bit more character

[potent cape]

can always learnmore about him later.

[frosty meadow]

he's probably related to the witches

[potent cape]

yeah I wonder, cause he seemed to know sol?

but the witches are all ladies.

[frosty meadow]

dude was probably present as a kid when the coven was destroyed as seen in ep 3

[uncut kayak]

I heard rumours it was qimir but I assumed it was another “marrok is star killer” type theories

[frosty meadow]

seems the narrative is trying to set up sol did something bad that we didn't see in ep 3, qimir is probably involved somehow

[potent cape]

yeah

I assume it's the same reason why Torbin took the barash

and why Kelnacca exiled himself.

[frosty meadow]

wish qimir would've had more characterisation before though

[wild cove]

They out pizza’d the Hutt

Couldn’t live with themselves

[frosty meadow]

qimir didn't really come across as anything other than some guy

[potent cape]

That's kinda the point

[frosty meadow]

yeah but we barely have any connection to the guy and neither do the other characters

[potent cape]

from my understanding, Qimir, is meant to be a nobody.

[frosty meadow]

that doesn't mean you can't give him character or interesting interactions to work with

[potent cape]

but Qimir is just a nobody side character

that you're not meant to have interesting interactions with

His Sith persona is the actual character.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think Qimir, the weak tagalong, is meant to be anything or anybody to anyone.

[frosty meadow]

shouldn't the reveal that the nobody character is actually a sith lord carry some weight to it though?

[empty minnow]

Finally got to watch it.

Yeah I knew who was gonna die xD

The moment that the whole "Yes they like each other" thing was revealed it was all over

RIP Yord Nation tho

[frosty meadow]

qimir's reveal doesn't carry any weight since we already knew it was totally him

he's just there

and all of a sudden, oh, he's a sith now

[empty minnow]

I mean no? We all know that Anakin will be Vader. Doesn't make the moment any less impactful when he goes rogue

We know Qui-Gon isn't gonna make it cause he's not in the OT

His death still sucks

[frosty meadow]

with anakin it's about the journey and not the destination

the prequels show us how and why he became vader

[potent cape]

https://youtu.be/nl9LltXH6fg

[potent cape]

Have you seen the film rashomon

[empty minnow]

But his turn was also a sudden thing being a complaint. People have argued that Episode 2 should have been Episode 1 and a Episode 2 be all about the Clone Wars lol

[frosty meadow]

nope

[potent cape]

it's a film with like 7 different perspectives of the same thing and most of it doesn't make sense until you've seen all the different perspectives

It was listed as a big inspiration for this series

Not everything is going to be explained or revealed when it happens

[near hornet]

Daren Nop is the fight arranger. He did the choreography for the Kingsman movies

[frosty meadow]

I’m not saying they need to give us qimir’s life story immediately

just like

give him some kind of character to bounce off the others

have some kind of character dynamic that the sith reveal can upend

[potent cape]

yeah which is fair

but I think the point of his character is that Qimir isn't meant to be anything at all

he goes on his spiel about wanting to be free to be himself, and says he has no name

[empty minnow]

I do think that it was a mistake calling him Sith

Not cause I think its bad writing, but cause the usual people will overreact lol

[potent cape]

apparently it's already broken canon. :^)

[empty minnow]

Well now its broken it THRICE

ruined forever

I do like his lightsaber more now though

Especially cause it splits apparently

[frosty meadow]

maybe, but the reveal falls flat in the end anyway since it doesn't change any character dynamics and the audience wasn't surprised to begin with

[empty minnow]

We literally had like 80 percent of the cast die. It changed a LOT of character dynamics xD

[potent cape]

He also said that showing his face meant that he had to kill everyone

lol

[empty minnow]

I wonder how it feels as an actor seeing everyone gush over your character unexpectedly.

Knowing that they aren't gonna make it xD

"Yord Nation forever!"

Also that was brutal wth

A neck snap

like whaaa

[frosty meadow]

dude could've passed himself off as a darksider rather than outright confirm he's a sith

[uncut kayak]

well he didnt actually say he was sith

he just said thats what the jedi would call him

[near hornet]

Just wait for the next episodes

We don’t have the whole story yet

[frosty meadow]

...so basically he's a sith?

[potent cape]

tbh I think that was just him saying he's a sith

in a cunty way of saying it lmao

[frosty meadow]

yeah like how else are you supposed to interpret that

[potent cape]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-tim-call-me-name-gif-25991618

[frosty meadow]

I like this one

[potent cape]

Does it mean his name is tim though?

[frosty meadow]

I mean he accepts and associates with the name

[potent cape]

I'm pretty sure the showrunner has confirmed there is a sith in the show so like

[frosty meadow]

so I guess yeah

[potent cape]

yeah

[empty minnow]

"THEY CALL ME, MR. SITH!"

https://tenor.com/view/mr-pig-lion-king-gif-25423134

[light ermine]

yeah i was wondering about that, does he not have a darth name?

[empty minnow]

He's probably Sith in name only

[light ermine]

darth sino

[empty minnow]

Dude did a good job acting out as a big bad

[frosty meadow]

probably does but he doesn't have a reason to reveal it

[empty minnow]

Manny. that's his name. Great job acting as the bad guy

[frosty meadow]

darth manny

[light ermine]

I also thought that, but then again why does he need to reveal that he's a sith at all?

[frosty meadow]

yeah he doesn't

that's bad writing if you ask me

[empty minnow]

Probably cause he assumes everyone will be dead in moments

So why not gloat

https://tenor.com/view/you-sly-dog-pointing-at-monologue-gif-12390392

[light ermine]

eh the sith are always arrogant that's not exactly out of character for any of them

[frosty meadow]

yeah but not arrogant enough to run the risk of exposing themselves to the jedi like that

sith shouldn't take any chances

[empty minnow]

Again though, he was going to kill everyone. Including Sol. Sith are arrogant as hell. They drop the ball every time lol

[light ermine]

again he just finished killing 8/10 people there why would he have any reason to assume that Sol would be any different

[empty minnow]

Besides the Jedi just don't get it. Oh look a Sith. Eh probably just kidding

[wild cove]

This is the same mf who lit his lightsaber standing on the beach for no reason

He’s just edgy

[light ermine]

Sol doesn't even seem super phased when he tells him, but weirdly does wonder why the sith "would risk discovery"

[empty minnow]

Sol is probably dealing with the death of his apprentice and the death of a friend so a little dazed

But whatever this secret is, its apparently so bad that the reveal of Qimir is making it a necesity for every Jedi to die

This secret that has something to do with Mae and OSha

[frosty meadow]

I thought it was hilarious he states you can't kill a jedi with a weapon but mae kills indara with a small knife

clearly he wasn't being literal but it sounds really funny

[empty minnow]

Mae got called out for doing that which I thought was hilarious lol

[light ermine]

I think he's talking more philosophically there, you can't kill jedi ideals with a weapon.

[frosty meadow]

hence I said he clearly wasn't being literal

[light ermine]

yeah the second part did not load at all for me my bad lol

[empty minnow]

“Was that it’s name?”

That was cold

Like ice cold mocking

[light ermine]

"she was a child" "you brought her here" BRUTAL

[frosty meadow]

fair point honestly

she was a trained warrior

[vast plank]

Didn't the showrunner say there was going to be multiple sith in the show?

[potent cape]

I think she said over the series, not just this season?

I can't remember though

[vast plank]

I still think that Qimir is the apprentice, looking for an acolyte

Even though he said he was the master

Could be wrong

[light ermine]

I mean he would still technically be Mae's master

[vast plank]

I feel like people will be pissed if they shoehorn a human I to becoming Darth plagiueus

Or Tenebrous

[light ermine]

I have a feeling it's gonna happen, it'd be hard to make general audiences identify with either of their legends species IMO

[vast plank]

It's one of my moan gripes with Disney Star Wars, they just make every character human

[empty minnow]

I mean as you can see, we got more aliens and suddenly it's "woke" lol

But I don't think they're gonna touch Plagueis

I think he might stay as an enigma in the current canon

[light ermine]

Muun Plagueis I could maaaaaaaaybe see because that's a face that could emote decently (but CG would be pricy if he's a consistent reoccuring character) but Bith Sith Tenebrous I don't think is gonna happen. too weird for normies

[potent cape]

Bith or riot

[empty minnow]

I'm gonna be that guy and say that I just can't deal with Legends Bane's helmet

I prefer the new Canon helmet

[potent cape]

That's not a helmet

[empty minnow]

Bruh that's his face?

I was lied to

[potent cape]

Growing on him iirc

[empty minnow]

Sith should really include free health care in their apprenticeship

[wild cove]

It’s a dark side parasite covering his skin

He eventually has to get rid of it because it’s interfering with him creating a sith holocron but it nearly kills him

[empty minnow]

Yeah definitely should get that looked at and removed

[wild cove]

If you look at his chest it’s made up of wood louse looking things

[empty minnow]

Yeahhhh I did think it looked a little organic

[potent cape]

you should read the books!

[wild cove]

they are excellent and well worth the read

[frosty meadow]

I don't think I've seen anyone complain about too many aliens

I've heard people saying with the budget that went into the show there'd better be aliens

[vast plank]

orbalisk

[vast plank]

I don't really give a shit about normies and it seems Disney doesn't either with what they are doing with the show

my assumptions are they don't do many aliens in action because of costs

idc if its cgi, I want Bith Sith and Muun sith

90% of all characters in action in Live-Star Wars shows are human

they even butchered the pykes

lets give them a humanoid build and call them pykes

[narrow lotus]

At least in the Old Republic / Legends, an Acolyte is to the Sith as Younglings are to Jedi.

[light ermine]

this isn't even a live action problem this has been prevalent in the franchise since day 1 lol

[vast plank]

I feel like now Disney would literally be Kaminoans? Yea lets give them a human build with a long neck

[vast plank]

not really

the prequels aliens were amazing

only OT had humanoid aliens

Kaminoans, Geonosians, Nautolans etc

[light ermine]

were any of them lead characters that carried a scene on their own?

[vast plank]

does it matter?

technology has advanced much

[narrow lotus]

Which was the trick on him by Zannah, as the orbalisk armor basically made him invulnerable

[light ermine]

for the purposes of what we're talking about yes, if we have Plagueis or Tenebrous I don't want them to be a shitty two second cameo where they have no depth to speak of

[vast plank]

I don't either

[crisp ravine]

It is though right? He had to wear a special helmet so the beetles didn’t cover his face right?

[vast plank]

but I'd rather they invest into good CGI and make the characters look good

instead of lets do human and put a long head on it ezpz

[crisp ravine]

It’ll be the final scene in the show and it’ll say “it’s acolytin time”

[vast plank]

btw we have seen Muuns and Bith before in live action

we have thanos kicking ass

[light ermine]

good cgi is expensive and time consuming and everyone's already complaining that these shows take too long and are too expensive.

[vast plank]

they are just too lazy

[light ermine]

thanos has a near human face with relatable facial expressions

[vast plank]

yea, no shit cause shows are written poorly and expense goes to shit things

[vast plank]

His black order

like the money is going to the wrong things

[light ermine]

are 1 dimensional characters with at most 2 mins of screen time

[vast plank]

ok and?

they still have combat scenes?

you need to hold em to a higher standard

the studio i mean

They are just lazy when it comes to aliens

[crisp ravine]

I’d rather just have shit animated ngl

[vast plank]

also they cgi'd a ton of droids in the prequels all of em who had a ton of screentime

[light ermine]

I'm not talking about combat lol I'm talking about having character driven dialogue scenes where I actually feel something about the character I see on screen.

[vast plank]

we haven't had that for years lol

[crisp ravine]

You’re asking too much from Disney

[light ermine]

I do, but I'm just realistic about it lol

[vast plank]

The world realistic doesn't go well in imagneering lol

corny I know

but isn't their job to make stuff not feel realistic

their production value feels lower than what George did with the prequels

[crisp ravine]

The problem is that a good story will have characters that have depth and goals and different views and then the story sorta builds up around them

But Disney writes shows with the logic of “this is happening and our characters just happen to be in it because they have to”

[light ermine]

George had years, his own money , and autism to work on the prequels lol

[vast plank]

and Disney doesn't?

They were literally printing money pre-pandemic

they can hire the best talent, best writers and best visionaries

yet we get poorly written messes with set decor and cgi that looks like it is a fan film

[light ermine]

not if they don't want to work on the franchise for fear of the online mob tearing them up for the slightest transgression lol

[vast plank]

I thought the shows that we got from Disney+ would have CGI that were better than the prequels if not rivaling them

Look, they don't give a shit about the online mob

[light ermine]

TV budget over 5-7 hours is far different than film budget for 2ish hours

[vast plank]

it's been years

[vast plank]

not an excuse

they need to be held to a higher standard

if even shitty fanfilms look better

[light ermine]

how is it not though? you're having to create more content for less money

[vast plank]

1. They are watering down the story with pointless episodes,
2. Production value feels shit
3. Their run-time is even lower than previous shows from 40-50m to now 30ishm
4. They cut corners on Aliens, locations and props

[light ermine]

I think people just do not understand what is actually happening with the money on these shows lol

[vast plank]

People don't need to, and people shouldn't care

but when you have flop after flop after flop

it is an issue

[light ermine]

then why complain about it lol

[vast plank]

because it is what we do lol

[light ermine]

sounds exhausting

[potent cape]

you can choose to not complain

[vast plank]

I mean it is the Internet right?

look at the end of the day, I don't really give a shit

but it gets old real quick

it's not like me some random nobody can do shit about it

paired with the fact that you get some bait videos reccomended to you why said show is bad parroting the same points over and over again

also the locations in this series feel like they were legit pulled from galaxies edge lol

[potent cape]

I quite liked the sets

[light ermine]

like there are legit criticisms about the show and yeah they should and could do better, but I think expectations are way too high and people need to lower them to a realistic level. disney is historically a very cheap corporation (take this from someone who worked for them for years) if they can find any way to cut corners they will, but this is not really different from any other corporation, this is just the world we live in lol

[vast plank]

Seeing what the IP is expectations are going to be high

it's the years of subverting them is what lead to this

[light ermine]

now that's a parroted talking point lol

[vast plank]

but y'know b1tching about it on Discord isn't going to do anything

[vast plank]

oh yea 100%

[light ermine]

then why keep going lol

[vast plank]

lol, it is what the online brainrot is

brainrot has gotten to me too

but if it matters I do enjoy the show

grifters aside

[potent cape]

I think the show is average, but it's enjoyable

I do like the characters a lot though

[light ermine]

def below what I expected or wanted but these last two episodes had me really invested

prob because the original selling point of the series finally made a substantial appearance

[light ermine]

same, the ones that are left at least lol

[vast plank]

There is like 3 or 4 lmao

[crisp ravine]

The funny thing is I don’t really give a shit about osha and Mae

[light ermine]

yeah I think this ep is one of the reasons I don't know if this was envisioned beyond this 1 season. there's just not going to be any characters left to carry over to future seasons lol Sol is a dead man walking, one of the twins is probably going to die, and Darth Qimir is a coin flip

[narrow lotus]

This is truly lost on most people

[crisp ravine]

Riddle me this though Batman, when was the last time you saw someone H E A D B U T T a light saber?

[crisp ravine]

I mean the money isn’t going to the writers, and I’m not saying that just cuz the story sucks

[light ermine]

that bit of choreo really got me, some really creative stuff with that and the bracer

[crisp ravine]

I was waiting for the helmet to disappear in someone’s hands tho

[light ermine]

people want everyone to be paid fairly and then are shocked when this balloons up budgets and cuts have to be made somewhere because the corporation needs to make money

and even then people are still paid pennies lol

[crisp ravine]

That’s the issue tho

Not only does the quality of the show suffer, but those who worked on the show get nickel and dimed and then get less money to work with

[light ermine]

that's life in the studio system baybee

[crisp ravine]

Def a capitalism problem

[narrow lotus]

What flops? The ones that were review bombed into oblivion?
Like, you do realize this episode was knocked down to a 2.6 on IMDb an hour before it aired right? And the show in total has more RT "audience" score reviews than multiple past shows combined... and more than TROS, right? The feedback on it being a "flop" is false, inorganic, and manipulated.

[light ermine]

I think the only legit flop in the disney era is solo (which I genuinely love, it just got screwed by TLJ backlash and releasing like 2 weeks before Avengers ), everything else is in the top 40 highest grossing films of all time

[crisp ravine]

That’s the other thing too

The quality has consistently been shitty and only gone down, yet Disney is still raking in tons of profit

And they can continue to cut corners and put out worse and worse stuff because they know it’ll still make money

Honestly they probably have more incentive to make it shit, since that generates discussion and drives people to the show

[light ermine]

this is the case for like everything though? everything now is more expensive, lesser quality and sold to you as the same thing, this isn't just exclusive to star wars

[crisp ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[vast plank]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-drumpf-trump-stupid-gif-6220235

[vast plank]

I thought I'd never have to do it but I have been budgeting since late last year

all my expenses lol

you don't know how quickly you burn through a paycheck

[light ermine]

lightsabers also do NOT help with that lmao

[weary sable]

What the fuck is "bortles" lol it's been brought up like 3 times.

Somebody please explain (I just woke up).

[weary sable]

Correct.

[vast plank]

such a powerful scene

[vast plank]

https://tenor.com/view/horny-gif-18405691

[weary sable]

Also, I know nobody's asking for my 2 cents but I'll throw it in anyways:
I think the Acolyte and Ahsoka both suffer from this problem where the show isn't good until deeper into the series' release.

[vast plank]

Yea I've limited myself within the last year

I more or less have what I want

[proud notch]

Also an inspiration to TLJ

[weary sable]

Ahsoka didn't pick up steam and get real good until Episode 4, and here we are with The Acolyte being mostly decent until Ep 5.

[light ermine]

Oh I think I can agree, it feels like Ahsoka found it's footing a little quicker but this show did not hook me until the last 5 mins of ep 4 lol

[weary sable]

I've heard this is a problem of "the show doesn't get steam until deep into the series" is also a problem with anime?

To be fair, that's also how I've structured my own story.

[light ermine]

I think it's a bigger issue with these 6-8 episode 30-50min max run time shows IMO, you have so much less time to really grab your audience

[weary sable]

I think people have a problem with a lack of a hook at the beginning and tbf I can see why?
But I guess to me it's not much of a problem?

[light ermine]

yeah like I enjoy the characters and was intrigued enough to continue but did not have the "OH WOW I GOTTA SEE WHAT'S NEXT RIGHT NOW" feeling that some of the other shows had off the bat

[weary sable]

Like genuinely I don't care how boring the plot is for the first bit if I like the characters. Which I did.

And of course now I really like one of the characters,,,

I have never found myself attracted to any darksider until Qimir, bro is built like a Greek statue HOLY FORCE

[vast plank]

https://tenor.com/view/manny-jacinto-the-good-place-jason-mendoza-gif-25775951

[proud notch]

We really need longer runtime in these shows, more runtime could've given us more time to explore these characters

Maybe had time to look more into Qimir

[light ermine]

easily my biggest criticisms of disney+ as a whole

at least stuff like bad batch or clone wars got a pretty solid amount of episodes

I think even 10 episodes with bare minimum of 50 min run times would do wonders for the pacing, story and characters in these shows

[proud notch]

Agreed, even 40 minute runtimes or just be greater than 30 minutes

[light ermine]

this ep in particular you can just FEEL (aside from confirmation from the writers) that it was just bisected in half

[narrow lotus]

They could have even released them all at 60 mins as a miniseries

[light ermine]

the 8 episode thing also just feels arbitrary when they do these 2 episode premieres

[narrow lotus]

Rewarding old syndicated TV shows with 24 episode seasons ...

Also, a thought:
||Qimir Ren||

Very similar wardrobe choices

[cosmic siren]

Nope it was a helmet, he got a helmet, boots, and gloves that the orbalisks wouldn’t grow over.

[light ermine]

also a bracer only on 1 arm

[potent cape]

I thought about that, but Ren is called Ren.

and Qimir did recite part of the sith code early in the show

unless it's very very very early ren which is possible

[narrow lotus]

Ren is a title, and taken from the one before.

[potent cape]

Ren is a name that is passed like a title

[narrow lotus]

There's no date given for the origin of "Ren", just that it's "old"