THE ACOLYTE

[crisp ravine]

tbf who doesnt love himbos

they do be seemin pompous and stupidly arrogant

[narrow lotus]

That's the thing I think is going over a lot of people's heads. This is the Jedi at the height of their Jedi-ness.
The Prequel Era Jedi were on a decline of their values. Of course they're going to act different. Jedi are supposed to be stoic and not show emotion. The performances are absolutely reflective of that.

[crisp ravine]

prequel jedi werent jedi

[silk jacinth]

They aren't what a Jedi should be

[crisp ravine]

just generals in a huge army

[lone coral]

I'm really enjoying this version of the Jedi. I feel like they're doing a good job of planting the seeds that explain why the Jedi are the way they are in the prequels.

[crisp ravine]

+keep in mind with this era it has been thousands of years since the sith have existed so of course the jedi are sitting pretty

[green mountain]

Technically its the start of their fall.

[cosmic siren]

this is why i say to well with what george says about balance in the force. the light itself is not balance, the jedi of the prequels, and even the acolyte are what you get when you have a thousand years of unchecked light side of the force.

[silk jacinth]

But if you think about it even during the KOTOR era the Jedi were terrible

[green mountain]

Jedi = Space Cops in the High Republic Era

[crisp ravine]

the jedi are terrible in every era lets be real

[narrow lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-old-yoda-prophecy-misread-could-have-been-gif-15864682

[cosmic siren]

any time when the jedi are allied with a specific government is when they lose their way.

[crisp ravine]

the order is basically the stick that the senate wields

separation of church and state does NOT exist in star wars

[green mountain]

I mean you realize everything you are saying now is pointing to Luke being right in The Last Jedi ...LOL

[lone coral]

Aren't they completely separate and not beholden to the Senate here? Or is that more the High Republic books and comics?

[cosmic siren]

if the jedi are supposed to be peace keepers in the galaxy, then you keep the peace, not obey the whims of what this government calls peace

[nova slate]

I mean the Jedi basically are a Theocracy

[crisp ravine]

i mean theyre covering up jedi deaths bc if the high council hears about it then the senate hears about it and then the whole galaxy hears about it

[nova slate]

It’s like Couruscant is Italy and the Jedi temple is the Vatican

[cosmic siren]

theyre supposed to be separate. but essentially they do bow to the senate.

[hoary star]

Not basically, they are

[lone coral]

This is my intro to the High Republic, so I wasn't sure what the situation was. I haven't read any of the other stuff yet.

[crisp ravine]

the high republic books are some of the best star wars content ive ever consumed

ive read the mainline books and im reading the Eiram and Eron'oh books now

[cosmic siren]

they portray it as a partnership with the republic and say theyre separate. but time and time again some jedi on the council becomes the poster boy and is the right hand to the chancellor telling them shit going on

[crisp ravine]

its really polarizing reading those books and then turning on new SW shows

[cosmic siren]

in the high republic books it was stellan gios first, then elzar mann. then in the clone wars era it was anakin

[crisp ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

its more of a figurehead type deal

[cosmic siren]

idk about in phase 2 of the high republic. i havent read that yet

[crisp ravine]

kinda like why JFK profited on TV being as prominent as it was

conventially attractive and lots of charisma except for elzar

elzar just took it upon himself bc of his guilt

poor elzar

[cosmic siren]

hey now dont diss my man elzar. dudes attractive as fuck. especially after his whole broody moment and growing a beard

look at this fucker

[crisp ravine]

yeah but stellan is just so much better

[lone coral]

I haven't read any of those, but I can attest to having a beard makes one a more handsome dude. I'm not biased at all...

[crisp ravine]

i really meant that elzar has absolutely zero charisma

[cosmic siren]

stellan gios is intentionally attractive. even down to his damn lightsaber

elzar EARNED the attraction

[potent cape]

Stellan my beloved

[crisp ravine]

stellan is high republic obi wan

[cosmic siren]

i badly want his galaxys edge saber but i know realistically ill never get it

[potent cape]

I'm still waiting for pachstores lol

[cosmic siren]

holy shit! medival stellan!

medival star wars is peak but medival stellan breaks the fucking chart.

[tight sierra]

that reminds me, Jake Bartok is opening commissions this week

might splurge

[proud notch]

So like, if this dude is a sith and Ki-Adi Mundi is aware of the Mae plot, then how are they gonna justify him saying nuh uh with the sith coming back in 100 years

[crisp ravine]

huh?

[proud notch]

Or am I overthinking this

[nova slate]

early onset alzheimers or something idk

[tight sierra]

the jedi at the temple were wondering if mae was trained by a splinter or spinoff from the Order

[cosmic siren]

ki adi mundi doesnt know about any potential sith. remember they think its a fallen jedi or something

[tight sierra]

no mention or even thought about the Sith

[crisp ravine]

i think ur being racist and thinking that every cerean is ki adi mundi

[tight sierra]

no no

that one is ki adi

credits said so

[proud notch]

That was Ki-Adi Mundi though

[crisp ravine]

aint no way

[green mountain]

I dont think its "ACTUAL" sith. I think its a Dark Jedi or "An Acolyte" thats not a full Sith. Now Mundis words are facts.

[cosmic siren]

yeah legit

[crisp ravine]

this game sucks

[lone coral]

Yeah, that one's is proven to be Ki Adi Mundi.

[nova slate]

wouldn't it be speciesist?

[cosmic siren]

in the credits it says master ki-adi mundi

[tight sierra]

cheems i hope you have a 1-up

i'm gonna go build a gundam now

[proud notch]

I mean, if they go the whole season without any of the Jedi learning that he is a sith then cool, but if one of them learns that is a Sith and Ki-Adi is aware, then this might be an issue

[crisp ravine]

google says male cereans have a 50 yr life span WTF

[nova slate]

no wonder bro needs the wives

[crisp ravine]

his wives live twice as long

[cosmic siren]

guy is 4 years old there XD

[cosmic siren]

his wives bite it in a comic

[crisp ravine]

that has to be an error bruh

[cosmic siren]

in fairness the only thing we have for live spaces of cereans in legends material

[crisp ravine]

him being name dropped in credits feels like an error

[cosmic siren]

they can be retconning that

the only people who have any idea it could be a sith are the people in the part right now. and the only hint they got is the red saber. how theyre going to explain it away is beyond me. but im interested to see how they do it

[crisp ravine]

i guess its not out of the realm of possibility

yoda is alive for both eras

[cosmic siren]

yep ^

[lone coral]

It's like the opposite of Yoda's species.

[crisp ravine]

its not unreasonable for ki adi and yoda to just be arrogant and assume they murked all the sith

[green mountain]

Yoda was 900 when he died, this is only 100 years prior.

[crisp ravine]

since its a p common trend with the jedi

[proud notch]

I suppose

[crisp ravine]

i mean the same thing happened in kotor

[faint urchin]

I just want the next episode already smh

[green mountain]

I dont think in the end the Jedi Coucil is going to either A. Not find out about it, or B prove its not a Sith

[crisp ravine]

"oh yeah we killed all the sith" sith return and kill all the jedi

[proud notch]

Idk I've been like the hugest defender of this series but Ki-Adi being here might complicate things

[faint urchin]

Ep 5 better open with Darth Root Canal just slaying everyone

[hoary star]

I thought new Disney cannon was that only kyber crystals can make lightsabers work. Which would mean bleeding Kyber works across all eras for works

[green mountain]

Darth Root Canal ...LMAOOO!!!

[faint urchin]

I get the feeling he wants OSHA as well. He didn’t strike her down where she stood

[crisp ravine]

oh you guys know that dude is pulling a palps and killing all the no names 30 seconds into the fight

[green mountain]

I called him Darth Molar

[faint urchin]

That works too 😂

[crisp ravine]

i actually like his helmet ngl

[proud notch]

I've been calling him Darth Teeth lmao

[faint urchin]

It’s goofy. I love it

[lone coral]

Darth Teeth ftw.

[proud notch]

I like that it isn't just black, there's browns in there

[faint urchin]

Love the helmet

He’s also so edgy

[hoary star]

My favorite character name there is "Jedi Knight"

[green mountain]

Oh i dig it too it looks like that Droid that put 3p0 and R2 to work on Jabbas Sail Barge

[crisp ravine]

its goofy but to me it kinda reminds me of super stylized theater masks and oni masks

[faint urchin]

kILl tHe drEaM

[proud notch]

It's definitely a horror vibe and I think it's good

[crisp ravine]

10000% yes

[faint urchin]

It’s like a middle school fan fic I love it

[cosmic siren]

to be fair, the jedi do have red crystals in the archives. they make a point to explain how orla jareni purified one. maybe this "dark jedi" stole one

[faint urchin]

I really hope he’s not just some random Jedi turned Sith

[cosmic siren]

i kinda hope he is, just so people will shut up about the time line with plagueis and tenebrous

[crisp ravine]

adi gallia supposedly had a naturally red crystal and then had to swap it for a blue one when the sith officially returned

[faint urchin]

“Shit I loved that color. Awww mannn”

“It matched my nails”

[crisp ravine]

ngl i kinda hope hes removed from the sith lineage

[faint urchin]

Still want it to be Qimir

He too goofy

[green mountain]

Im all into the Orange blades right now Skol / Hati style!

[faint urchin]

It matches the edginess

[crisp ravine]

i might be in the minority here but as cool as the rule of two is, it makes the sith insanely boring as a whole

[faint urchin]

Hell yeah Shin Hottie

[cosmic siren]

could be a case like darth millennial

[lone coral]

How much of the Sith lineage is still canon?

[faint urchin]

It does limit the plot yes

[crisp ravine]

enough to where the rule of two is established in canon

[potent cape]

A lot of it. The specific details aren't though

[faint urchin]

“I should’ve been born at the height of the high republic GAWD”

[green mountain]

All the Sith Canon is in The Old Republic Video Game, All of that is still Canon

[proud notch]

I kinda like the bare look this costume is going for

[faint urchin]

“I hate my generation”

[cosmic siren]

not a lot. mostly its names that are canon but not where they are in the time line

[faint urchin]

Definitely makes me think it’s Qimir now

Similar build

[crisp ravine]

someone do a frame by frame analysis on qimirs hands

[potent cape]

The game is not canon

[proud notch]

Real

[nova slate]

Is it bad my first thought upon seeing that helmet was that it looked kinda like Marvin the depressed android?

[hoary star]

Honestly I was hoping Sol was the sith

[green mountain]

Its Qimir or Indara those are the only ones it could be

[cosmic siren]

legit was just about to do this XD

[faint urchin]

Nahhh not my pookie

[proud notch]

He wasn't wearing that gauntlet thing but he could've added it on

[lone coral]

I guess I just wasn't sure who is still canon prior to Plagueis.

[crisp ravine]

but if this dude is part of the sith lineage(also if it ends up being qimir), it makes this whole universe seem really small

[proud notch]

Tenebrous's name is canon but that's it

[faint urchin]

Tenebrous is the only one I know

[silk jacinth]

And Plagueis

[cosmic siren]

tenebrous is still canon to be plagueis master. but we dont know what species he was in canon

[green mountain]

Darth Bane is Canon as is Malek

[silk jacinth]

He was a Bith in Legends

[faint urchin]

Don’t think it being Qimir would make it that small. But Sith lineage yes

[crisp ravine]

it so would though

[cosmic siren]

basically all we know his name was tenebrous, and he trained plagueis

[proud notch]

Darth Malak is not canon as far as I know

[crisp ravine]

we cant introduce any other characters? it has to be a twist of a character we already know?

[cosmic siren]

and a star destroyer on exagol was named after him

[lone coral]

Gotcha. I know I'd heard of Tenebrous, I wasn't sure if others were still.

[green mountain]

Hes in Galaxy Of Heros the game. Thats recent

[cosmic siren]

i would hope bane is canon he appears in the clone wars and hes legitimately on the series 1 sith holocron XD

[crisp ravine]

bane is canon

[proud notch]

That doesn't necessarily make him canon

[crisp ravine]

but all it is is he existed and made rule of two

[green mountain]

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-all-sith-lords-canon/

[cosmic siren]

i was just reading this XD

[green mountain]

LOL

[proud notch]

Can confirm this is true in wookieepedia

[cosmic siren]

im surprised andeddu is canon

[proud notch]

Desolous is as well

And Exar Kun

[cosmic siren]

naga sadow

of course nihilus was made canon

[lone coral]

I didn't realize so many of them made their way back into canon. Cool 🤘

[cosmic siren]

kinda surprised vitiate is canon

[hoary star]

The only thing that gives me pause about the sith being Qimir is that Sol's reaction makes it seem like he might know who it is (like Darth Vader sensing that Obi-wan was on the death star) which would make it weird he didn't recognize him earlier

[proud notch]

When was he made canon? He only has a legends tab on wookieepedia

[potent cape]

A lot of the characters are but at this point it's purely their name

[cosmic siren]

looks like theres a statue of him on exegol

[green mountain]

Im not sure it was a feelijng like "I know who" but more just a feeling of "darkness". Keep in mind none of these Jedi have ever seen or faced a Sith / Dark Jedi before. This is all new to them. Hell I dont even know if any of them have seen a red blade before.

[cosmic siren]

of all the canon sith lords the one im disappointed not to see is ajunta pall

[proud notch]

That's not a namedrop though

[cosmic siren]

dont got to be. there is no way that is not nihilus

i see malak and revan in there as well

maybe malgus as well?

[proud notch]

This looks like concept art

[green mountain]

There were rumors of mention of Malak and Revan for Rise Of Skywalker.,

[proud notch]

I've only seen TROS twice though, I am not a fan of that movie so I definitely missed things

[cosmic siren]

revan did appear in rise of skywalker in name only though

[green mountain]

Supposedly its on the cutting room floor. Scenes were shot mentionng them.

[cosmic siren]

one of the star destroyers is named after him

[proud notch]

And that one book that had Luke and Lando team up

[crisp ravine]

the whole issue this franchise has been having for the past 10 years is that everything ties directly into things we are already familiar with in one way or another. I want this franchise to feel like it takes place in a huge galaxy that has more than the skywalker bloodline going on. High republic books did a great job with this by limiting hyperspace severely. One guy moves between different planets at sublight speed to scavenge parts of the EX droids that used to send messages through hyperspace bc no hyperspace lanes really exist yet(and the nihil can just hijack you out of hyperspace) this show is the furthest that disney has ever gone outside of established canon(in terms of shows) and it still feels like we cant get away from the skywalker plotline. If darff teef is part of sith lineage, then that automatically means that all he is really doing is just existing so that palpatine can exist and the main 6 movies can happen. if teef is outside of the sith lineage, then that opens up a huge possibility of directions that the story can take itself in. we have a CENTURY of wiggle room to really flesh out an era of star wars that not that many people cared about. but they cant do that if theyre constantly having to check their work and make sure that whatever theyre setting up ties back into the main 6 movies

[hoary star]

This is how most legends Sith became cannon right? Like they're supposed to be named after famous sith

[silk jacinth]

Twitter going nuts over Ki-Adi Mundi

[cosmic siren]

yeah pretty much

[cosmic siren]

how many people confused about his age

[silk jacinth]

He would be more than 100 yo around ROTS

[hoary star]

This is supposed to be 150 years before PM right?

[proud notch]

100

[cosmic siren]

reminds me or mcgonagall being in fantastic beasts well before she was born

[silk jacinth]

Oh and "The Sith have been gone for 1000 years" line

[green mountain]

100 years and only reference I find to his age is he was "approximately" 96 years old.

[silk jacinth]

But no one says in the meeting that Mae is with the Sith

[crisp ravine]

fan service for the 4 people who really loved ki adi and the <30 min of screen time he gets

[hoary star]

Frankly a huge problem I have with the show is that it's so hard to tell it's supposed to be during a different era than the prequels

[proud notch]

Yeah that's my huge concern because he was the one you could just say he's the crazy one but now he might be possible to be fully cued in to the plot

[cosmic siren]

one of the major arguments against the acolyte before it came out was citing his "the sith have been extinct for a millennium" quote

[tight sierra]

Millennia is 1000 isn't it

[proud notch]

Mundi is the doubtful one and Yoda isn't dismissive of Qui Gon

[green mountain]

I still dont think we are getting a true Sith. I think the name the Acolyte refers to Darth Molar

[tight sierra]

Man, Darth Dentist can't see shit with that helmet

[green mountain]

Darth Floss Regularly

[proud notch]

You can see an eye through that slit but yeah he ain't seeing shit through that thing

[tight sierra]

I've tried a Revan mask and couldn't see shit, and that visor is bigger than Dentures'

[silk jacinth]

Darth Transoshan

[cosmic siren]

i ran into one idiot who genuinely believed that sidious was trained by a sith holocron after he became chancellor and that the sith actually did die out after the batle of ruusan

[proud notch]

Bruh

How

[silk jacinth]

The fuck?

[proud notch]

I've heard some wacky stuff in my time but damn

[silk jacinth]

Did he watch TPM?

[proud notch]

Yes

[cosmic siren]

yes. his main argument was the "the sith have been extinct for a millennium" quote

[proud notch]

Bro believed the Jedi wholeheartedly

[cosmic siren]

literally said "mundi says this because there ARE NO SITH"

[proud notch]

He would've needed Yoda to tell him that Darth Vader is in fact Anakin Skywalker

[cosmic siren]

oh oh! should i also say how dude believe that yoda and mundi were apparently around to help destroy the sith back during the battle of ruusan XD

[hoary star]

I mean Mundi could have been party to sweeping the sith thing under the rug here and just been keeping up appearances

[cosmic siren]

lets never mind that the 7th battle of ruusan was like 100 years before even yoda was born

[silk jacinth]

We also don't know how Yoda knows about the Rule of 2

[cosmic siren]

in legends a dark jedi told the jedi about the rule of two

[green mountain]

The Rule of 2 was Chronicled in the Jedi Archives

[hoary star]

Surprised that we haven't seen Yoda in the series though... He's like 750 years old at this point

[proud notch]

I think this canon also suggests that the Jedi killed Darth Bane instead of Zannah

[green mountain]

Hes rumored to appear in the next episode

[cosmic siren]

found it!

enjoy the lunacy everyone

[proud notch]

Bruh

[hoary star]

Oh fair enough because they're trying not to tell the council so far but a sith is probably not we can hide this from the council territory

[green mountain]

I want what this guys is smoking ....LOL

[proud notch]

Did he forget that Yoda missed the literal Dark Lord of the Sith in pissing distance of him in TPM, AOTC, and ROTS before he went mask off?

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/mysillycomics-yea-yeah-gif-24158576

[cosmic siren]

did he miss that yoda was born 100 years AFTER the "extiction" of the sith

[proud notch]

You think this dude remembered the line "for 900 years have I..."

Or whatever he said

[cosmic siren]

we know yoda was training jedi around the age of 90

[hoary star]

Look as good as me at 900 years old or something along those lines

[proud notch]

Especially if one of the dudes who was in Vernestra Rwoh's little posse becomes a member of the Jedi high council

[cosmic siren]

which honestly considering how innept grogu is at 50 surprises me.. but thats besides the point

[silk jacinth]

He hasn't been a Jedi in like 30 years

[hoary star]

I'm not saying that grogu is mentally handicapped but I'm also not, not saying it

[nova slate]

Experimentation will do some crazy stuff to ya

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/for-now-harry-potter-delores-umbridge-delores-umbridge-gif-19273338

[cosmic siren]

like grogu seems to be the rank under initiate. when children are still fucking infants but part of the order

[nova slate]

I mean probably hasn’t had any sort of education since infancy like right before the purge, and then how many years pass before Mando?

[hoary star]

It doesn't help that he's basically been in a cradle in darkness for 20+ years

[hoary star]

18 at least

[green mountain]

Isnt Mandoverse 20 years after RotJ

[tight sierra]

No

5

[hoary star]

I thought that was the sequels

[green mountain]

Ahhhh

[nova slate]

Google says 30 yrs between 66 and mando

[hoary star]

So for half his life Grogu basically has had no interaction with people

[nova slate]

So he’s definitely got developmental issues on top of CPTSD

[proud notch]

He's also smaller than Yoda was

Like significantly

[nova slate]

Probably due to neglect while under imperial holdings?

[green mountain]

I mean the reality is they just needed toys to sell thats why hes so small 😛

[proud notch]

Could be, but i figured intent was he was still a baby

[nova slate]

It could just also be that he hasn’t hit Yoda puberty yea

[proud notch]

That too

[cosmic siren]

i mean, infants to have a growth spurt before they get to toddler/child size

watch, mando season 4 comes round and grogu will be up to djarins knee and still babbling

[nova slate]

We also have no concrete idea how the species ages in relation to human lifespans

[cosmic siren]

well, we do have one comparison

[green mountain]

I want to see teenage rebellios Grogu ...lol

[hoary star]

Frankly they probably forgot that Yoda was teaching Jedi at 90 and said that'd be like being 5 in human age (which he still isn't)

[cosmic siren]

in comparison to humans, yodas species ages slowly

slowly

[silk jacinth]

His 900s is like a human's 90s

[cosmic siren]

yoda training jedi at 9 years old

[nova slate]

Yea, but I guess I meant more like how in fantasy stuff there’s sort of relative age marks that we can relate to our average lifespans so like for 80 is compared to a 16 y/o human for an elf

[hoary star]

If anything Yoda training Jedi at 90 seems to suggest they age faster through youth than humans comparatively

[green mountain]

its like the whole Dog Years thing ...LOL

[hoary star]

It just seems like Yoda's species has long life spans not that they age slowly

Unless they're Grogu so you can sell baby Yoda merch

[cosmic siren]

7 years packed into 1 until you reach your first hundred, then it slows WAY down

[nova slate]

Which they’ll probably hand wave by saying something like “he was experimented on so they somehow stunted his age growth”

[hoary star]

For sure

[cosmic siren]

ok legit though, that is kind of a good reason

[silk jacinth]

Somehow Grogu was experimented on

[cosmic siren]

i mean they pretty much show it in seasons 1 and 2

[silk jacinth]

Oh definitely

Thanks Dr. Pershing

[cosmic siren]

id imagine pershing even was more gentle on him. remember him begging saying "if it wasnt for me he would already be dead"

gidion looks to have done a number on him though

[nova slate]

It’s the most logical solution to that question around Grogu, they’d be dumb not to take that route

[hoary star]

it kinda feels like they're trying to tip toe around why there wasn't another Yoda in Luke's Jedi order... Which like there doesn't need to be a crazy reason. Saying the empire committed genocide of species making it harder to find force sensitives is a fine enough one

[cosmic siren]

well hell we know the empire committed genocide

multiple times over cultures and species

[hoary star]

Right, exactly

[cosmic siren]

effectively wiped out the jedi, mandalorians. and entirely wiped out geonosians

[orchid crown]

The Master is going to secretly be a third twin 😆

[hoary star]

Frankly anyone besides Qimir would be more interesting... But also you're no longer a twin at 3

[silk jacinth]

Twinrd

At least it doesn't end with k

[cosmic siren]

episode 5, how qimir met the master. end of the episode qimir asks "so what do i call you as a cover?" the master replies "Rugess Nome will do"

[silk jacinth]

I read it as collection fluid

[cosmic siren]

im not going to say what i read it as at first

[hoary star]

It's okay, we all know

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-grand-inquisitor-reva-sevander-darth-vader-gif-27188434

[cosmic siren]

im curious what you think XD

[empty minnow]

Lol so that was Ki-Adi Mundi?

xD

[vast plank]

WTF

[empty minnow]

Dude be cameoing

[wild cove]

I'm doing this. I don't really mind about spoilers and 30 mins a week is a bit ridiculous

[uncut kayak]

28 minute run time and how it ended was a bit frustrating

So if mundi’s species only lives 50 years, how’s he there 150 years before phantom menace?

[potent cape]

The force is known to extend lifespans

[wild cove]

£5 says it’s a flashback episode next week too

[potent cape]

It's not. Iirc

[vast plank]

Didn't the showrunner say that episode 5 would be the most talked about episode?

[potent cape]

the showrunner and the cast talked too much about the show.

[wild cove]

That’s a pretty vague statement which could mean literally anything

I’m sure they said something similar about the lizzo episode

[potent cape]

The cast have said some things about ep 5

Would using the force count as "killing without a weapon"?

[wild cove]

I really feel they need to start extending these shows though. 8 episodes of like 20-40 mins weekly feels pretty stingy

It’s essentially just a chopped up movie at that point

[potent cape]

yeah, that seems to be one of the major complaints

the pacing and spread

[wild cove]

I don’t think that’s unique to this show though. It’s really been an issue for years

Even Andor I feel would have been better in three episode drops if they’re insistent on the weekly schedule

[potent cape]

I don't even remember how TV used to be. Like cartoons n shit was one every day usually. But were more 'mature' serials one a week?

[wild cove]

My benchmark is BSG, which had like 22+ episodes per season

[uncut kayak]

weekly episodes can work as long as each episode has depth and there's enough happening

[wild cove]

Not sure what the release schedule was for that back in 2005 though

[uncut kayak]

i just feel EP4 was mainly characters walking through the forest

[vast plank]

sure, a couple of weeks ago,
Now? No, esp with the most recent episodes cliffhanger

[wild cove]

Idk man it sounds like just typical word of mouth marketing to me. Believe it if you want tho

[potent cape]

man, weekly game of thrones was so bad. Some episodes were literally nothing

[wild cove]

I’ve not watched but supposedly house of the dragon has a good balance

[uncut kayak]

this is why I didn't finish game of thrones tbh

[wild cove]

Probably better off lol. It got really really bad

[potent cape]

I didn't mind it so much, it was just a lil distraction every week

but I wasn't invested

[uncut kayak]

I was so fortunate to be clueless about andors release and found it just after the last episode aired

binged the whole thing over a weekend

[potent cape]

Is killing a jedi without a weapon just turning them to the dark side?

[uncut kayak]

does force choking them to death count as no weapon?

[potent cape]

I was also thinking that

or force lightning

I am a little annoyed at the cast/showrunners tho

they did speak so much about the show beforehand that you can kinda put things together

[wild cove]

Would be kind of neat if there was an actual big unexpected twist

Bit of misdirection

[proud notch]

These shows really suffer with that small of a runtime

[wild cove]

It just feels transparently like a business decision. I’m sure they have some market research that points to a greater number of shows with a smaller runtime keeps D+ subs higher. It’s just that the individual stories alway suffer

Personally feel we’d be eating a lot better with like 2 big full fat releases a year

[proud notch]

Agreed

[vast plank]

I thought the sith killed Ohsa

but then I was like hmmst

[proud notch]

This show would've done so much better if it had a longer run time, andor had close to 1 hour episodes

I wanna know why he didn't

Maybe he wants Osha more than Mae

[uncut kayak]

do we know who's directing the new films?

[proud notch]

The Rey movie we do

Mando and grogu is probably favraeu or however you spell his name and filoni will probably direct the heir to the empire movie

[potent cape]

Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy is the Rey movie director.

[crisp ravine]

Those upcoming movies completely drain any potential hype I could have for Star Wars lol

Wake me when the next high republic novel drops

[potent cape]

I'm pretty keen for a rey movie

[silk jacinth]

Me too

Mostly because of Daisy

https://tenor.com/view/loony-tunes-cat-stairs-melt-gif-16060363

[ocean jewel]

i thought it was a pretty good episode.

i think i'm on the odd side though and am enjoying the 30 min episodes and having to wait weekly

everything to me screams throwback to regular network shows.

[ocean jewel]

i think part of this is who the show is aimed at as well. adults want hour long. kids prefer 30 mins.

or maybe the parents prefer the 30 min shows for their kids

[silk jacinth]

Levitation
https://youtu.be/Af9a2Zd-1lI?si=JawM8VA-dixwCYio

[potent cape]

Was a very cool shot

Also an insane force push

[silk jacinth]

So this is his lightsaber

[ocean jewel]

him showing up was a surprise for sure.

i think the power of the push was unexpected as the jedi were all lets just rush this fool

[hoary star]

You have to do something different than the traditional style now (this problem isn't unique to Disney) traditionally you'd have filmed a TV show with the knowledge of where commercial breaks are. Now that you don't do that something like Netflix's binge drops would work great for Star Wars shows. Andor should have been dropping 3 episodes each time instead of one episode a week.

[proud notch]

Everything about this Sith's introduction was well done

Star Wars Explained has dropped his review

[ocean jewel]

my opinion on this is if you are dropping all of the episodes at once whats the point of doing episodes.

i do agree they should have more than 8 episodes if they are doing 30 mins each. this makes me worry though about filler we'd get.

i also think a lot of it has to do with subscriptions. if they spread it out they can get you to do 2 months vs 1 if you have fomo

[green mountain]

Seeing this it makes me think the Indara preview TXQ sent me was not taken by TXQ ....LOL The backgrounds are the same.

[silk jacinth]

Previews already?

Oh those

[green mountain]

They sent 3d renders too but my guy at TXQ told me that photo was from the factory lol

[hoary star]

I like the emitter...

[green mountain]

Ya i am definitely a fan of his saber

Simple, to the point, and weathered AF

Dfinitely looks like something scavanged together from parts.

[potent cape]

yeah I'm pretty sure these were from an event that had them to show off the show

[hoary star]

The US road signage in the background being "from the factory" is laughable

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-sure-jan-sarcastic-brady-bunch-gif-11590179

[green mountain]

yup

[green mountain]

Yup .... damn ...lol

[urban locust]

Really liked this episode.

[proud notch]

Sol's lightsaber is still my favorite of the series

Also I think they confirmed that they're so big because they wanted practical lights instead of putting it in post

The things have a large battery for extended shoots with them I guess?

[lone coral]

They did, but consider they've also used practical lights for the sequel films, Kenobi, and Ahsoka, and those hilts weren't thicc bois. My theory is that what we're seeing are basically first run edition of new Galaxy's Edge sabers.

[uncut kayak]

They’ve done this in the past and the hilts weren’t anywhere near this level and chunkiness.

[lone coral]

Not to mention that when they're big like this, when Galaxy's Edge does sell theirs, they can be marketed as screen accurate.

[proud notch]

I think they said specifically it's the battery packs for extended shoots but maybe the info is false

[uncut kayak]

This is more likely the reason

[proud notch]

The activation switches are higher up on the hilt closer to the emitter while the GE ones are more at the middle of the hilt

If we're talking about Savi's specifically. I'm not sure where the activation switches lie on other legacy sabers besides Jedi Dooku's cause I own that one

[uncut kayak]

They did the Ahsoka props so well it’s just a shame these ones are so poor

[lone coral]

Thats an interesting wrinkle, then. I do still think they've basically manufactured their own hilts based off of the tech they use at Galaxy's Edge, and we know all of those sabers are oversized. Maybe they thought it'd be fine in universe because it's 100 years in the past? I don't hate that they're big, personally.

[proud notch]

Maybe

I could see that being a consideration. Most of 2019's Jedi Fallen Order saber parts were just ones from Savi's

[lone coral]

Thats true. I actually very much liked that, since I was able to use my own Savi's saber in game.

[proud notch]

Valid. I wasn't the biggest fan of the first iteration of the savi's pieces besides elemental nature

[lone coral]

Haha, I also went with elemental nature.

[proud notch]

Imo, the ones they added in 2022-2023 were all improvements with maybe an exception being elemental nature's pommel. You can't do better than a rancor tooth

[proud notch]

My mom and I did two last year and I unknowingly made the dark side one that they showed in a press briefing 😂. She did protection and defense

[lone coral]

For me it was my brother and I in 2021, I paid for us both as his best man gift after I got married. I did this one, and he did power and control.

[proud notch]

The build experience was really nice

[lone coral]

Hard agree. The theatricality of it all is why we wanted to go. I know the tech isn't up to par with current neopixels and everything, but the experience itself was worth it.

[proud notch]

The performance and the sets for me, Batuu was just brimming with detail in every corner

Batuu had me sitting looking at one greeble for a solid 5 minutes

[lone coral]

Oh, definitely. I could walk around that place for hours, just content to be looking at the set design.

[uncut kayak]

I’d love to visit one of the GE parks some day

[lone coral]

I hope some day you have the opportunity.

[green mountain]

They coudl also be making them larger so in teh future when they use the retractable blade technology they invented they can put it in on screen sabers

[potent cape]

Same. It's been a long time since I was in the USA

[lone coral]

I'm just lucky that Disneyland is only an hour and a half away from me.

[potent cape]

😭

[green mountain]

Im 4 hours from Disney Land

And I STILL havent been there 😛

[potent cape]

I'm a
... 16 hour flight from it?

[green mountain]

Been to disney world like 20 times as a kid, but never Land

Craziest part is I have stayed on property at a Disney hotel in Anaheim but never went to the park 😛

[lone coral]

Disney World once as a kid, then moved across the country to San Diego in my late 20s, now I've been to DisneyLand 4 or 5 times. Had I stayed where I grew up (MN), I likely would never have been to DisneyLand.

[ocean jewel]

i went to disney land like 40 years ago

lol

trips are just too expensive.

[green mountain]

Im in Vegas and profesionally I am a touring /. recording musician. Every january we have a big music convention at the Anaheim convention center. Been going since 94 and still havent made it acrosst he street to Disney lol

[vast plank]

why do these dogshit videos keep popping up in my feed

[potent cape]

NAMM?

[vast plank]

these people are actually nit picking now

[green mountain]

Yep 🙂

@vast plank this will explain it to you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI7As3rOogo

[vast plank]

episode bad cause character does shit

boo fucking hoo

[ocean jewel]

again people seem to forget its just a tv show

they have something like 20mil per episode to spend. things aren't cheap.

while i know it's not apples to apples a new episode of family guy is around 2 million give or take

[green mountain]

Family guy is also animated to the voice actors get a lot less than on screen actors

Not saying 20 Mil isnt alot, but it doesnt go as far as it used to

[ocean jewel]

exactly.

[green mountain]

I thought the ships in this episode look terrible against the backgrounds, but whatever small gripe.

[ocean jewel]

i did as well. but i'm not trashing the show for it.

[green mountain]

Exactly

[visual crater]

I doubt it. But he knows more than he lets on. I agree with Seven, he's the titular character. NOT Mae. She'll turn back good soon.

[green mountain]

OVerall I am enjoying it. Smal complaints but nothing to get irate over or make YouTube videos about raging about wokeness and diversity

[potent cape]

Nah
He's the apprentice and she's the acolyte

[ocean jewel]

or she'll sacrifice herself to save ohsa

[lone coral]

Is it bad that I really want Osha to be annoyingly insistent on everyone being safe?

[green mountain]

Im still on the idea that they arent "Sith" at all. I think the Jedi killed the Mothers for sure, and they happened to go to the planet Qiimir was from at some point in time and took him as a child trained him then something happened on his planet as well and Jedi killed his family. He sought revenge, found out about the sith and now hes hiding himself as a sith when hes really just a former Jedi seeking revenge. This will fix the whole Episode one Mundi thing about the Sith being extinct for a millenia

[visual crater]

I think that's turning good.

[green mountain]

No ... I 100% think they named her that for that exact reason ...LOL

[ocean jewel]

eh. i think she could save her sister without going good so to speak. at least from the jedi view

[lone coral]

I just want to see her handing out hard hats, steel toed boots, and eye protection. Though, I'd settle for a throwaway line about how she's died, and that's why there are no guardrails in the Star Wars universe.

[ocean jewel]

but it would be on par

[green mountain]

You cant have Star Wars without a bad guy turning good. Its literally the entire point of Star Wars ...LOL

At least in the Disney era ...lol

[visual crater]

I'm guessing no. But I was writing one other time in my life. It could happen again, I guess.

I'm still thinking Darth Teeth is the apprentice. Likely going against the master with a bit of Maul like enthusiasm to go kill Jedi.

But who knows.

[potent cape]

Oh ye
He's likely sith but the lil one not the big bad master

[ocean jewel]

he's mid 😄

the worst position in the sith hierarchy

[visual crater]

You think Qimir is helmet Sith?

[potent cape]

Yeah

[lone coral]

Maybe having acolytes is his way of trying to subvert the rule of two. He doesn't have apprentices,.

[green mountain]

I prefer calling him Darth Molar ...lol

[potent cape]

Like dooku with ventress

[ocean jewel]

he's gotta be him

[lone coral]

Exactly. Teeth is the apprentice, and the acolytes follow him of their own will, so it's not technically training an apprentice.

[ocean jewel]

he just vanished like clark kent ya know?

[visual crater]

I think she's 4th in the hierarchy. Sith Master > Teeth > Qimir > Mae

[visual crater]

Seems too obvious though.

Like it's a bit of subversion

[ocean jewel]

could be a red herring

[visual crater]

Yeah

[green mountain]

Teeth could be Indara she was the only Jedi asked for by name and "killed" in public.

[ocean jewel]

i don't think he's an igor to dr frankenstein though

[ocean jewel]

thats an interesting take.

[visual crater]

But they have her body

Right?

[green mountain]

We havejnt seen it, nor have they said

[potent cape]

There would be more talk about her corpse if it were her.

Pulling a 'she was alive all along!' Would be weird with no other threads to it.

[visual crater]

Like they would have made a comment about it being missing

[ocean jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/somehow-palpatine-returned-somehow-palpatine-poe-dameron-poe-gif-20849141

[green mountain]

Who knows, lots of plot holes in Star Wars.

[potent cape]

Or something like 'why are they delaying her funeral'

[visual crater]

Like Swiss cheese

[green mountain]

@ocean jewel thats LITERALLY what I was just about to reference HAHAHAHAH!!!

Jesus I cant type today

[ocean jewel]

i almost hope they just don't reveal him.

[vast plank]

Is that Kevin Smith

[ocean jewel]

never seen jay and silent bob?

[green mountain]

Yessir that scene is from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

[potent cape]

I can't take him seriously after his tweets about his wife lmao

[green mountain]

lol

[vast plank]

I am so glad I never got addicted to Twitter

[green mountain]

No we are just Addicted to Discord 😛

[potent cape]

It's fine if you curate your feed. Mines 80% cat pictures

[ocean jewel]

this the 10 year post?

[potent cape]

Yeah lol

[ocean jewel]

rumor was that it was her that actually posted it

[green mountain]

Someone said Funerals for Jedi.... Dont they all just "become the force" like Yoda? I know they burned Vaders suit, but was Anakin actually IN it. #PlotHole

[ocean jewel]

i don't think they all become one with the force. i feel like thats something you have to learn to do

[potent cape]

Qui gon was cremated

[green mountain]

and if you think about it, its kinda fucked up they burned his body if he was actually in it considering how he came to wear the suit ...LOL

[potent cape]

And learnt to become one with the force after death

[empty minnow]

Yeah but he was one of the few

Not even Yoda knew how to communicate and become a force ghost

It was even shown that Qui-Gon perfected it. So I'm sure it has to start somewhere early

[oak sun]

not exactly, everyone that dies becomes one with the force, but not everyone can RETAIN their consciousness and individuality within the force

[green mountain]

So who did OuiGon learn it from?

[oak sun]

there's a whole arc in the second to last season of the Clone Wars about it

he was taught by the whills, powerfull entities in the force

[potent cape]

From a shaman of the whills

[oak sun]

in that arc he guides Yoda into starting the training

[green mountain]

I never got into the Clone Wars im not really an animation person. I watched they Cliff Notes version 😛

[oak sun]

well the summary is that qui gon was already learning in his private time in secret

but died before completing his training

he took a long time to learn how to manifest himself while already dead, although he had retained his consciousness and, although a bit hard, was able to communicate through his voice

he guided yoda into a journey where he started his own training, which is inferred he proceeded to complete fully while in Dagobah during his exile

[green mountain]

Gotcha, then he taught Obi and the rest is history

[oak sun]

basically

[potent cape]

And obi taught anakin post death

[green mountain]

right

[oak sun]

yup

[proud notch]

I always assumed Anakin got to be a force ghost cause he was the chosen one

[potent cape]

I believe there was a book where kenobi speaks to anakin after his death offering to teach him

Can't for the life of me remember which one and if it's still canon

[proud notch]

If that is the explanation, I accept it

[foggy saffron]

ep 4 is insanely good

[green mountain]

Yes A New Hope was Great ;P 😉

[empty minnow]

What's interesting is that it's shown in the newer comics that not only did Qui-Gon foresee what would happen in Episode 6 as a Force Ghost, but the longer he hanged out with Obi-Wan, the more of his humanity he began to recall

Kinda like Force Ghosts are detached

At first

[foggy saffron]

that too 💀

[silk jacinth]

My fav SW movie

[empty minnow]

A New Hope?

Oh you mean Rogue One 2

[silk jacinth]

Yes

Rogue Two Electric Boogaloo

[oak sun]

cant really remember where I read this from, so I might be off base, but I seem to recall that at some point obi wan explained that as a force ghost it feels almost unnatural every time they manifest themselves and their own will apart from the force

[empty minnow]

It's definitely something unnatural for sure

[tight sierra]

https://decider.com/2024/06/19/the-acolyte-dafne-keen-confirms-jecki-lon-queer-romance-with-amandla-stenberg-osha/

Wooo

[oak sun]

like, the "becoming one with the force" is so literal, their natural inclination is to simply flow with the events as the force wills them, and intervening or even doing anything that isn't simply exist as part of the force

[empty minnow]

I think in Legends it was considered a dark side technique mostly

Cause the Sith sure love trying to extend their lives lol

But the Jedi changed it for good

[oak sun]

well, I seem to recall that in legends it was explained that being a force ghost could only be achieved through the light side because the technique itself required you to be so in tune with the force in order to master it, and the dark side by definition required you to bend the force to your will

[empty minnow]

Yeah exactly. The opinion of it was initially considered a dark side idea

[oak sun]

any form of "immortality" through the dark side was merely an imiation in comparison, and would rarely truly preserve the minds of the dark side user in question, but merely a copy or echoes of their essence

[nova slate]

Force ghost seems to be a light side technique, but sith have been able to create similar techniques that some would combine with Essence transfer abilities

[oak sun]

yeah, imitations or halfbaked solutions

they all usually failed to fully preserve the person itself, or would do it in the most impractical and perverse way possible

look at palpatine and his batch of decaying clone bodies

[empty minnow]

My boy Qui-Gon doing awesome things even in death

[oak sun]

and his was probably the best solution of the bunch

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/the-amazing-world-of-gumball-gumball-and-darwin-scissors-cutting-gif-25912997

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-kid-miniklin-its-a-young-person-its-just-a-child-its-an-infant-gif-26252454

[silk jacinth]

Oh right

Fuck

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-fbi-open-up-fbi-open-up-gif-24469021

[silk jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-box-of-shame-peeking-box-punishment-gif-17791313

[tight sierra]

So how about those fake vampire teeth

https://tenor.com/view/want-to-fight-false-teeth-vampire-teeth-cute-gif-12818856

[silk jacinth]

Darth Molar's?

[tight sierra]

Lord Dentist

[oak sun]

Darth Cavity

[proud notch]

That scene they had definitely had that vibe

[silk jacinth]

Mouth of Sauron?

[empty minnow]

Darth Canalis

Root of all Evil

[oak sun]

anyone speaks spanish here? got a meme but it's no fun if no one can read it

[empty minnow]

Go for it. I'm sure many do lol

[oak sun]

aight

[silk jacinth]

But that was Legends

[empty minnow]

Ah yes Legends shenanigans

[tight sierra]

Ah, my high school spanish isn't enough for this

[silk jacinth]

We don't know his birthdate here

[oak sun]

well it's still funny for me until they have an official stance on the matter

xdd

[tight sierra]

I thought his species can be over 200

[empty minnow]

Ki-Adi Mundi confused on seeing himself in The Acolyte despite not being born yet.

[proud notch]

I still don't like that he's there but maybe it'll grow on me, and it's not cause of his legends age

Which is funny for me to say because he is my favorite prequel Jedi

[empty minnow]

Mundi is?

[proud notch]

Yeah

I liked him as a kid

And commander Bacara

[tight sierra]

The most dismissive Jedi? Your favorite?

[proud notch]

Of the prequel Jedi*

[empty minnow]

Eh we can have our favorites

[oak sun]

Im annoyed by it becasue of the entire "he is allowed to be married and have kids specifically because his species males die fast af and they are almost on the brink of extinction", it was a very fascinating angle on other jedi carrying out some sort of relationship outside of anakin. although I know that was legends, until now there was nothing contradicting it

[empty minnow]

So it's all good!

[proud notch]

I like Kanan Jarrus and Jaro Tapal more tbh

[oak sun]

It may grow on me

but it messes with my head canon sadly, so I'll just power through it for a couple days until I'm at peace with it

[empty minnow]

Personally I found THAT annoying lol. "Yeah i can marry and have sex but sorry Anakin you can't"

Especially with how dismissive he is

[oak sun]

for me it gave more depth to just how hypocrites the jedi were

[proud notch]

Mundi is definitely not a great Jedi, but I like that about his character, he's a living embodiment of the Jedi as a institution by the time of the prequels

[oak sun]

in legends even Kit Fisto had a secret relationship

[empty minnow]

Yoda: "Hey i think I heard Qui-Gon's voice"
Mundi: "Lmao Yoda's crazy sick"

[oak sun]

yesh

yes*

[proud notch]

Kit Fisto is also up there for me but my childhood bias can't shake Ki-Adi for me

[oak sun]

I am very fascinated by how although the jedi are in the "side of good", as an organization they were hypocrites, full of themselves and vey dismisive of any outside information that didn't align perfectly with their ideas

[proud notch]

I also like his costume, when I go for a Rebel Legion Jedi I want to take inspiration from his robes and Sarrisa Jeng's

[oak sun]

yocasta's "if it's not in the files then it doesn't exist" comes to mind

[empty minnow]

Kit kissing Aayla to help her breathe was such a moment lol

But I am glad that Legends and Canon both agree that the Republic Jedi were not the best at their jobs lol

[proud notch]

Same, it's especially an interesting idea when you go from the OT to watching the PT. Yoda definitely learned his lessons of the old order and tried to pass that on to Luke in ESB

[oak sun]

I'm not the biggest fan of the last jedi (not wanting to start ANY discussion about that movie here, just want to reference it), but the line luke tells rey

about how the jedi allowed the empire to exist

because of how innefective they were

it's spot on

he couldve spoken any language in the galaxy and decided to speak facts with that

and exploring those sides through different characters, like Ki Adi, it's alwasy been fun to me

[empty minnow]

I mean the vast majority agree that THAT part was spot on

[proud notch]

The Jedi also made their temple on top of a Sith shrine

[empty minnow]

So it's not a controversial take

[oak sun]

this is the star wars fandom, everything is controversial if you want it to be

😂

[empty minnow]

https://youtu.be/tp5x6qJcE6A?si=nFbabJnoRy66XK68

[proud notch]

Even friggin ESB was controversial when it came out

[empty minnow]

Luke name dropping Sidious was so cool

[oak sun]

one of the top moments of the entire sequel trilogy indeed

helped bridged the gap between OT and prequels a lot for me

for all the ups and downs star wars have had, that particular moment and the entirety of rogue one really helped all of star wars to feel way more narratively sound in my head

[proud notch]

Real

[silk jacinth]

Luke: Yes Rey you are a Sidious

[proud notch]

Rey: And I am the Rise of Skywalker

[hoary star]

Except for that part where rogue one kinda fucked up the Bothan spies line in the OT (like rogue one was a good enough movie but introduced its own problems with narrative)

[lone coral]

You're referring to the line "Many Bothans died to bring us this information?" , right? That was during the briefing before the attack on the second Death Star in ROTJ.

[oak sun]

the bothan spies were the ones who delivered the plans for the SECOND death star, in Return of The Jedi, the same plans that palpatine himself admits to Luke of having leaked to bait the alliance into attacking the moon of endor. Rogue one shows how they got the plans for the FIRST one, back in A New Hope. there's absolutely no narrative problem here

[nova slate]

have bothans ever been actually depicted ?

[hoary star]

Ah shit was that ROTJ my B

[silk jacinth]

Not in Canon I think

[proud notch]

I was hoping the bothan would be in acolyte but her comments of the legends species being canon was the Tynnan thing in this episode

[wild cove]

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Manuel_Both-Hanz

[proud notch]

No fucking way that's a real character in legends

Oh nevermind, it's a Tag and Bink thing

[silk jacinth]

Manuel Ambas Manos

Oh it's a nod to Bothans

[cosmic siren]

i legitimately love the detachable hyper space engines the jedi seem to use so much

[silk jacinth]

Like the rings from AOTC and ROTS

I swear to God that the Ki-Adi Mundi thing is annoying me

iT bREakS CaNOn!!!!!

[green mountain]

It doesnt his age is a legends thing.

[oak sun]

Yeah but then again there was absolutely nothing in the new canon that contradicted that until now and it was a pretty solid and even liked part of the character by some people. We talked a bit about it earlier today

It’s more than reasonable that some people find the change frustrating since, so far, it amounts to nothing

[light ermine]

People liked and thought his age was solid? It's def a weird change but by no means did anyone give two shits about Ki Adi Mundi's birthday before today except for his harem of 5 wives

[green mountain]

I just dont understand why people are so beholden to legends. Sure the stories were better, but Disney when they took over told us all they were gonna change things.

Better or worse is a matter of opinion not fact.

[oak sun]

The whole harem thing has a reason to be that’s straight up related to his age. The males of his species age quickly, and he is an exception within the Jedi because his species was almost extinct

[lone coral]

Is the harem thing still canon?

[oak sun]

He was another example of the many relationships that existed within the Jedi order, both sanctioned and unsanctioned, which to me was an interesting thing to see exploring how hypocritical the Jedi were

Anakin was SURE to fuck up by having a love life, meanwhile half the order was doing the same, each of them for their own reasons

[green mountain]

The Jedi have ALWAYS been hypocritical. George designed the Jedi to be fallable from day one. The entire Story od Star wars is predicated on the Jedi being fallable and making mistakes. They never should have brought Anakin in to start with.

[light ermine]

Only in my heart

[oak sun]

Yeah no one is discussing that, we are just talking about one of the many examples

[green mountain]

Everything they do is an example is all I am saying. There isnt a single anything thats been made by George or Disney where the Jedi are "perfect"

[oak sun]

And I’m still not discussing that

[green mountain]

God you just want to be argumentative. Ill see you all later. Here we go with another one of these guys where only his ideas matter.

[oak sun]

Jesús fucking Christ I just said that I’m not discussing that

And I’m being argumentative

[lone coral]

I don't know if Ki Adi Mundi is written about a lot, but in live action, pretty much all we know about him is that he's surprised a Jedi may have trained a murderer, he thinks the Sith have been extinct for a millenia, and he's very concerned about the separatist attack on the Wookiees.

[oak sun]

I agree with everything you said, about the Jedi and George

How on earth am I being argumentative?

I don’t speak English as my first language, am I saying something that’s not being understood or something?

[light ermine]

Don't forget he wants his troops to "come on!" important bit of his character

[green mountain]

Its just something else for the "Star Wars Fans" to complain about. Its cool to shit on Star Wars nowadays. So people do it.

[lone coral]

And he can't block blaster fire to save his life...

[oak sun]

Im not shitting on Star Wars… all I’ve said myself is that it is frustrating. I never said I hated it or that Star Wars is ruined or something like that

I came here explaining that it’s reasonable to not like a certain change, and you are going on like I’m on the extreme side

[light ermine]

Don't forget that he also doesn't think Dooku is dangerous and couldn't possibly be a murderer (examples of arrogance and just being flat out wrong lol)

[oak sun]

Yeah I’m not a fan of it, doesn’t mean all of a sudden I hate Star Wars because of a single thing I would’ve preferred to be different

[lone coral]

This all got really heated.

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-day-chill-sit-back-and-relax-gif-10680871

[oak sun]

I’ve been here since yesterday calling out that having extreme opinions isn’t right, and the only thing I said now is that I’m personally not a fan of the Ki adi mundi change and I can see how some people might have preferred the old backstory. You said I was argumentative because of it and that it was just another thing to complain about and that it’s cool to shit on Star Wars for some fans

I love the franchise, and I dislike it when I see people shitting on it for the stupidest reasons too. But that doesn’t mean I can’t say one day “hey that wasn’t my cup of tea personally, but alright”

That’s all I was saying

[bright token]

I agree that Ki-Adi Mundi was a bad choice for a prequel Jedi to put in as an Acolyte cameo

yes, nothing contradicts it in new canon but there are plenty of other Jedi who have been established in both canon and Legends to have been alive around that time

this is a direct clash between canon and what legends established as a pretty big part of Mundi’s character over a few seconds of screen time

[narrow lotus]

The stories in Legends/EU were a complete mess in regards to who did what and if another author remembered that for their project or not. It's honestly a trade-off, imo.
There was a ton of whacky weird crap in the EU that if Disney did it, they'd be made fun of for it just like they are now for the things that they're coming up with on their own.

Oh wait, they already were

https://tenor.com/view/somehow-palpatine-returned-somehow-palpatine-poe-dameron-poe-gif-20849141

[bright token]

Dark Empire isn’t exactly a well-regarded story and wasn’t taken very seriously when it came out lol, doesn’t discount Legends as a whole

[narrow lotus]

EU stans: holds EU up on a pedestal while crying that Disney canon sucks
"No wait, not that part... or that part.... or this... or that... only the, uuhhh the good EU stuff"

[nova slate]

That’s literally every Star Wars fan if you want to get technical

[silk jacinth]

Han Solo and Empatojayos Brand ruined the Chosen One thing in DE

(Despite coming before TPM)

[bright token]

it’s almost like you can acknowledge that not EVERYTHING in a fictional universe is well-written or thought out… crazy idea considering you get tarred and feathered for saying you disliked something Disney’s made

[silk jacinth]

The problem (for me at least) is how people transmit those thoughts

I like more things about Legends than Canon but I don't consider that Canon is a POS

[bright token]

when you generalize any criticism towards a show, movie, or whatever as hostile, you’re employing the same train of thought that the people crying about bricks and screws in Andor are

[tight sierra]

I agree the show's writing is mid but I disagree with those who say the show sucks because they cast Asians and black women and gays

[oak sun]

For the record, I agree wholeheartedly with this. You can like and dislike things from anything, doesn’t mean you hate something or think it’s a piece of shit

[bright token]

no one seems to realize anymore that criticism and attention to detail aren’t just saying “this thing is bad”.

if you can back up your dislike of something and explain how it can be done better, that’s being constructive

like it or not, lore is important to a lot of fans, not just of Star Wars

[narrow lotus]

I have plenty of issues with most of the new stuff (and the Prequels lol).
TFA was too much of a rehash of ANH, TLJ wasted Finn and the entire Canto Bight sequence was stupid, and TROS just felt like Twilight With Lightsabers and the "ancient map dagger that perfectly matches recent starship wreckage" was idiotic.
You can see what my issues aren't about. There's the difference.

[oak sun]

That’s the thing, sadly so many actual POS have been using the fact that the show is just mid as a way to yell for attention and say “hey see how I was right? Minorities = bad!”. And so many different voices expressing dislike for different reasons are getting thrown into the same bag because frankly it’s just hard to tell apart sometimes unless you actually engage and read what every single one is actually saying

[bright token]

and the reason they’re still doing it is because people are engaging with them

[tight sierra]

That right there is legit criticism. This, however? This isn't:

[narrow lotus]

Lore that was never canon in the first place. George had said multiple times that he never considered the EU to be canon.

[bright token]

if the “fandom menace” hadn’t made so many people butthurt enough to go on Twitter and yell about it, they probably would have gone away instead of increasing in numbers

[narrow lotus]

If the Fandom Menace would stop brigading, harassing, and sending death threats then sure, people would stop calling them out for being the douchebags that they are.

[bright token]

did you not read where I said “like it or not”? the EU was a part of Star Wars since the very beginning. George doesn’t like a lot of things, and they’re still a part of the franchise

[cosmic siren]

no no. the most valid argument you can give is "THIS IS BAD AND YOUR NOT A REAL FAN IF YOU LIKE IT!"

[tight sierra]

Would you rather us quietly discuss the show over tea and crumpets while the Menace doxxes people and send death threats to the point that Ewan McGregor had to step in and tell them to shut up

[oak sun]

If I may get a chance to explain my pov, to that my reply has always been “yeah, but there’s nothing contradicting X thing so far so we can just be happy and assume that’s the official canon for that part, because it was pretty good”. If something new comes up that completely contradicts it, I am at peace with it. I will interiorize it and embrace it. But that doesn’t mean I have to be happy right away and say “yeah! New canon! Screw what I’ve been taking as reference for the past 10 years”

Like yeah, I will accept it at the end of the day

But like, cmon can’t I just say “huh, I liked the other one better” first?

Is that really that bad of a thing?

[bright token]

yes actually, the block button exists. there is no need to interact with anyone doing that. be the bigger person

[narrow lotus]

Except for the fact that when Disney purchased Lucasflim, they specifically designated only the 6 films and The Clones Wars show as canon prior to publishing new material.
Doesn't matter what you "like better", it is what the company that owns the IP says it is.

[cosmic siren]

in all honesty. star wars has always been presented as if theyre stories being told in universe by the people. and if if you can count on people for anything you can count on them being fucking idiots. the unreliable narrator is strong in star wars and more people should be open to it. in some stories cereans live for half a century. in others they can live for well over 200 years

[bright token]

no fun allowed, you can’t say you don’t like something

[oak sun]

Sigh, and like I said, I will happily accept whatever lucasfilms deems the official answer in the end

I am not gonna fight then

Them*

But it’s about having a conversation

[tight sierra]

And let them piss all over us like they've been doing to wookiepedia the last 26 hours? https://x.com/WookOfficial/status/1803504798492487705

Wookieepedia🏳️‍🌈 #YordHorde #SolPatrol (@WookOfficial) on X

@DistantEchoesSW Oh so much. We've seen vandalism on the site, and so many personal attacks in our dms. Here's a small snippet of the sort of messages we've been inundated with the last 24 hours.

Twitter · Jun 19, 2024, 7:07 PM

Nah.

[narrow lotus]

My favorite parts of Star Wars, KOTOR and SWTOR, are no longer canon. Doesn't bother me or stop me from enjoying them, and if Disney does their own Old Republic stuff who gives a shit? I'm not going to cry about "wahhh they ruined Revan" when the character is 90% headcanon anyway.

[silk jacinth]

I mean Shadow of Revan exists

😏 /s

[bright token]

posting about them, responding to them, and platforming them is exactly the wrong move, especially as such a big part of the community

just block/ban them and move on

[oak sun]

I feel like every time I explain my point the message gets lost in translation.

I have no issues with what Lucasfilms decides it’s the official answer. I just like to talk about what the other possible storylines could’ve been and which ones I liked the most

It’s make believe in the end, I’m not fighting anyone at Disney for what they say is the official story

Yes, other people ARE going nuts about it

I’m not in that bunch

[tight sierra]

You can't do that when all you need is another email and two minutes to send death threats on a new account

[narrow lotus]

and they cried about that too, because it ruined their headcanon fantasies lol

[cosmic siren]

its all star wars its all made up. believe what stories you wanna believe and be done with it.

[tight sierra]

The amount of bullshit Jordan's going through....

[bright token]

and if they’re threatening people, doxxing or whatever, report it to the authorities. it’s not as big of a deal as anyone’s making it out to be

[oak sun]

Yeah that’s just twitter and every Star Wars creator every time something new drops

[bright token]

people talk shit and say horrible things on the internet all the time, you have to give them the time of day for them to get anything out of it

[oak sun]

I mean not even twitter, back in the prequels day people were giving hell to everyone involved through other means

[cosmic siren]

exactly this

[tight sierra]

As if the cops can do anything with internet threats these days

[cosmic siren]

ahmed best and jake lloyd are perfect examples of this

[narrow lotus]

Daisy even deactivated her Instagram over harassment

[silk jacinth]

Kelly Marie Tran

[silk jacinth]

She is back

[bright token]

I mean people joke and say “turn the computer off” as a response to cyberbullying, but it really is that simple. No one is forcing anyone to interact with these people

[oak sun]

Yeah to be fair this is not really exclusive to Disney Star Wars

The fandom has been like this for a LONG time

[cosmic siren]

the vocal part of the star wars community is extremely toxic. its seriously sad that it takes 20 years before shit starts to be accepted

[oak sun]

Literally why I prefer to be in groups about lightsabers except of everything Star Wars groups 💀

[cosmic siren]

my man kelleran legit tried to kill himself because of jarjar hate

[oak sun]

Things are just a bit more chill

[narrow lotus]

might as well log off forever, because once you log back in all the shit will just have piled up on replies and DMs

[nova slate]

Except it’s really not, especially when part of expectations of actors these days is to promote their work online

[potent cape]

Because it's the victims responsibility to not listen/leave a community rather than the bully's responsibility to stop. I see.

[bright token]

I never said it was a responsibility, but it’s inevitable on the internet that you’re going to face some sort of harassment eventually

[narrow lotus]

one of my friends woke up to about 500 harassing and threatening DMs just for posting "I love the Acolyte"

[tight sierra]

And no one is forcing them to dox people and yet here they are hacking into iclouds and leaking nudes for revenge

https://x.com/StarWarsLawyer/status/1800173694955987317 https://fixupx.com/emkenobi/status/1800527637179400672

StarWarsLawyer (@StarWarsLawyer) on X

So over the weekend people have been attacking @emkenobi for calling out a racist YouTuber who analyzed the race of every child in the youngling scene of the acolyte. If that isn’t weird enough, people then stooped to revenge porn as an attack on Em. 1/5

Twitter · Jun 10, 2024, 2:30 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093963148987473960/1250534138822397972/image0.jpg?ex=667484ac&is=6673332c&hm=c2639ceecb04a460a4d78d979fdb85b9b3b9449666a128bc8abd7953f5820ff8&

[oak sun]

Yeah ngl the “walk away” or “just block em” solution maaaaaaaay work when it’s on a very small scale. Like, if there’s this 1 or 2 guys being a pain in the ass

But when it’s as massive as an entire audience

[bright token]

you can turn off comments on just about any social media platform, even hide likes/dislikes if it affects you that much

[oak sun]

And the whole hacking and leaking personal data a nudes is something to consider as well

You may walk away, but what do you do when they still go to those lengths?

[bright token]

when it’s harassment in your real daily life, emkenobi did the right thing in getting professionals involved

[cosmic siren]

just ignore it has never been a valid approach to any kind of bullying, weather it be in the school yard or over the internet. unfortunately you cant exactly knock a kids teeth in over the internet like you can in the playground

[tight sierra]

You know why they did it? Because she asked someone to do an actual critical takedown of Acolyte episode 1 instead of going through the Padawan meditation scene to determine the skin color of each child actor

[nova slate]

Yea but the thing is, they’re lucky enough that professionals were even willing to help to begin with. It’s hard to say that anyone else getting this kind of hate will be able to get that kind of help, especially that quickly

[narrow lotus]

Then they screenshot your posts and tag you in their post making fun of you for shutting off comments, so you still get the dozens of notifications about bullshit

[tight sierra]

It's easier to hate, that's why there's so many of these guys

[narrow lotus]

yeah, fortunately she had the funds to do that

[tight sierra]

And they scream VICTORY when you block them

[oak sun]

Or they do a dozen videos about how shit you are, and let’s be fair. These are real people at the end of the day, they go into YouTube every now and then. They get blasted with a dozen thumbnails of videos making fun of them too

[cosmic siren]

no one remembers that hate leads to suffering. and quite obviously the community is suffering through only their own fault

[oak sun]

It’s not like they can escape it unless they straight up abandon the internet

[nova slate]

Realistically after a while it takes more effort to do what they’re doing than to just move on

[narrow lotus]

oh yeah, some guy posted a 5 minute video rant into someone's replies calling her a fake fan because he read more Legends books than he thinks she did
these people are just unhinged

[lone coral]

I want to stay out of this, but I wanted to drop in and say this. Treating these kinds of self righteous hateful assholes with kid gloves, or walking away, or turning the other cheek, is a good principle. But ignoring the real issues with that kind of hate en masse is why we have Nazis marching openly in 2024.

[narrow lotus]

It's perfectly okay to not like things.
It's not okay to harass the people that do like the thing, just because you don't.
You hate Disney Star Wars? Cool, good for you. I don't give a shit.
Stop fucking harassing and threatening the people that do like it.

[cosmic siren]

^ this exactly

kelborn please never change

[tight sierra]

https://fxtwitter.com/lauriek_a/status/1803592242138960230

[cosmic siren]

just fucking found out this girl has the same birthday as me just 2 years later

[tight sierra]

Their greatest mistake was angering a theater kid

[silk jacinth]

I always forget that she was the kid from the first Hunger Game movie

(Haven't watched it)

[oak sun]

Just learned that this morning and still processing it

[silk jacinth]

And one of The Boys dudes was in it too

[tight sierra]

So much bullshit the last 26 hours over the birthdate of a really mid Jedi

[nova slate]

Jack Quaid, aka Hughie was the guy that killed Rue

[oak sun]

Mid? He dropped the most important line in all of Star Wars

[tight sierra]

Also, for people who thought the courtyard from episode 2 was the Volume: it's an actual set

[silk jacinth]

So he killed Mae

😕

[tight sierra]

Superman kills Osha??

https://tenor.com/view/looking-at-the-mirror-superman-jack-quaid-my-adventures-with-superman-looking-at-myself-gif-263278391058216736

(yes, he is the lead in My Adventures With Superman)

[silk jacinth]

OSHA

[lone coral]

https://tenor.com/view/osha-gif-13410721

[tight sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-star-wars-guard-rail-railing-gif-472911928458429146

[cosmic siren]

So as much as the the community clowns on the power of many scene in episode 3 it’s actually a pretty damn good allegory for the fan base being a toxic pile of shit

Of course that shit levels me up

[tight sierra]

Haven't looked enough for a gif of the Mando S2 railing

[tight sierra]

We have a level bot?

[cosmic siren]

Yep

[tight sierra]

Must have blocked it

[oak sun]

I mean sure, it wasn’t the best scene. But if people think that was the worst thing, they sure haven’t seen this gem

“I’ll try spinning, that’s a good trick” moment

[cosmic siren]

I get the Jedi spinning in their swings looks goofy but you can explain it as momentum for their swing. This shit does nothing but unbalance you and throw off your shot XD

And yeah it may have been a bit cringe in the episode but ya know what else tends to be cringe? Culty witch bull shit XD

[tight sierra]

Robert Rodriguez is not a great director anymore

[oak sun]

I haven’t seen most of his latest stuff, but at least in Star Wars his style doesn’t translate well

The show always looked like it had cheaper props and just less budget whenever he was the director

[tight sierra]

Hes passionate for sure but he's the wrong guy to have

[oak sun]

That Vespa scene would be right at home if you dropped them in the middle of that Spy Kid 3 racing level

[cosmic siren]

Well I mean the beta tester actors were on book of boba fett as some of the mods

[narrow lotus]

He's building up momentum to curve the bullet blaster bolt, obviously

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-angelina-jolie-wanted-gif-13058825

[oak sun]

Huh, would’ve never known

[narrow lotus]

relevant
https://youtu.be/UePwnz4Xp7Y

[cosmic siren]

did not know what tie stood for

now i do

girls got her head on right

i know this dudes being sarcastic but god damn

[narrow lotus]

(I don't think he's being sarcastic)

[cosmic siren]

i know hes being sarcastic because i refuse to believe someone is genuinely this stupid XD

[cosmic siren]

legit absolutely agree. thats probably the only "your not a true fan" argument that i will 100% agree with

[potent cape]

Good video. Never seen one of hers before.

[oak sun]

Wtf

[tight sierra]

i should have shared that earlier when posting how Wookieepedia was being vandalized

[cosmic siren]

legitimately hate people like this

[green mountain]

The sheer amount of lunacy out there is amazing. This is the world technology has created. Jesus fucking christ.

[tight sierra]

Qimir, totally not being Lord Dentist while asking Mae what she thinks the Master's rule of unarmed killing means:

[potent cape]

I'm still curious as to what it means, I'm in the "turn a jedi to the dark side" camp atm

[vast plank]

LOL

[vast plank]

💯

Pump out negativity and brain-rot and act like you are a kino conniesuer

[covert portal]

not enjoying the show so far TBH, but one thing i am grateful for is this discourse

purge these MFs

[vast plank]

Hey, to each their own

we are all welcome to have our opinions

show seemed kind of a weak start to me too

but ep 4 felt good

[covert portal]

it was a step up, i'm still holding out for the 2nd half of the episodes

def had a slow ramp up imo

shot of the dude floating down silently was creepy as shit

[ocean jewel]

i still don't care how old mundi is. was. can be.

it doesn't matter to this story at all

[potent cape]

The force is known to extend lifespans 🤷‍♂️

[ocean jewel]

it is. he's also a background character. if they hadn't put his name in the credits nobody would have known it was him.

i only know because this is the new thing for people to get mad about with this show

[light ermine]

so many people are choosing to die on this hill too, had no idea Mundi had so many "stans" before yesterday lol

if you had told me a year ago that the biggest source of controversy for this show would be fire in space, lesbian witches, and ki adi mundi's birthday I would've burst out laughing

[ocean jewel]

its typical of things though. while you are allowed to like/dislike things for whatever reason. trying to hide why you actually dislike something behind another flimsy idea is whats happening more often than not recently.

[light ermine]

like we've said in the chat, there's legit criticisms and discussion of the shows actual flaws (poor/weird pacing, odd writing and editing choices, lack of budget affecting some scenes, etc) and yet we can't discuss it half the time because of imagined slights over the stupidest things

[ocean jewel]

agreed. i am overlooking most of the flaws as i don't think they are enough to make me legit not enjoy my time watching the show

i also grew up in the 80's and know what shit tv is haha

[light ermine]

like I wasn't even really into the show until literally like the last 5 mins of this last ep but have felt this need to be on the defensive for it because because so many of the negative takes are in bad faith or over the stupidest stuff

[ocean jewel]

i think my biggest gripe about shows recently. helmets for baddies.

just stop. go back to shrouds

[vast plank]

been waitin for a chance to use that

lmao

[ocean jewel]

hahaha

[narrow lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-vader-star-wars-hello-hi-gif-9312920842067857903

[cosmic siren]

Hear me out. What if qimir is the apprentice and Mae is essentially what ventress was to dooku.

[tight sierra]

That's the popular theory

[silk jacinth]

What if Mae is...........Mae?

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-boom-duh-no-obviously-gif-17835271

[narrow lotus]

What if Teeth is....

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-and-the-flying-circus-john-cleese-witch-witches-burn-gif-15349953

[potent cape]

They're fucking kyber crystals aren't they

[uncut kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-errol-special-ops-lioness-fascinating-appealing-gif-8682873216709276108

[silk jacinth]

Of each Jedi he has killed?

[proud notch]

Moving helmet might be a cool idea

Like the mouth moves when he talks or something

[silk jacinth]

Kelnacca's saber

[potent cape]

Oh that's neat

[tight sierra]

I have a sudden idea for a caramelldansen edit

Shot of Mae staring out of the hut with the song fading in faintly
Jecki hears it first and asks What is that
Shot of Mental Dental descending with RGB going off as the music increases
Reverb increases as he turns on his saber
Reverb intensifies more when he uses the force

[green mountain]

https://reportultra.com/quanghuy/the-acolyte-secretly-revealed-theres-a-sith-traitor-among-the-jedi/

Whatever ... that link is about the Acolyte not Fallout ...lol

Ummm why does it look like there is a titty in this pic ...LOL https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1093963148987473960/1253380114939641897/20240620_124854.jpg?ex=6675a4b2&is=66745332&hm=de6af959c52a1038b2d828da20f59847dfd765b2976df1cc3a901971f915811f&=&format=webp&width=530&height=910

[cosmic siren]

Part of me wonders where yords padawan is. The whole Mission to kelnaccas world would’ve been perfect for training

[tight sierra]

Because this is from one of the press tours that had an actor in the suit walking around the carpet

[cosmic siren]

Then too they could’ve had the dentist side of the force kill her off. Get some development for yord

[silk jacinth]

Because that's a titty

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-wanna-see-one-titty-just-wanna-see-titty-sleep-jenni-farley-gif-15447394

[narrow lotus]

It's cropped from the red carpet premire

[proud notch]

Sol Wojak if anyone wants

[silk jacinth]

The ladies love Wookiees

[tight sierra]

💀 https://twitter.com/clairekiechel/status/1803326591168303389

“CK” Kiechel (@clairekiechel) on X

@GYannick76 we called them red shirts in the script ha

Twitter · Jun 19, 2024, 7:18 AM

Apparently you can't use emotes when hyperlinking on discord....

[narrow lotus]

Those generic Jedi gonna get bodied 😆

[proud notch]

What's this replying to? I don't have twitter

I'm assuming it's someone saying those Jedi are dead

[proud notch]

Bro I am not looking forward to seeing a Mauler 10 hour breakdown of acolyte on my YouTube feed

[cosmic siren]

Cus there was

[tight sierra]

Yep

[proud notch]

Noooo

Not... Ithia Paan

(that's the Kel Dor btw)

Also that shot is so good ugh

[lone coral]

It really is. Having lighting for the sabers on set really helps with scenes like this.

[cosmic siren]

Star Wars theory up here saying literally every single Jedi seen on screen up until this point needs to die so no lore gets broken, cus apparently Jedi have some fucking hive mind

[narrow lotus]

They're also really really good guys who absolutely tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth all the time forever and ever

[lone coral]

You know what I just realized? This rhetoric about how it's insulting that the Jedi could be imperfect, and how this show ruins the good and just Jedi, is really similar to the rhetoric you hear in the US anytime you criticize police.

[green mountain]

Star Wars Theory used to be a great channel until he realized that if he conformed to the masses and just talked badly about star wars all the time he would make more money.

[cosmic siren]

And have a totally infallible view of the force right

[nova slate]

Seeing that it’s a religion… not for nothing but people in the US can really get away with a lot while being a member of a religious group…(this is not towards any specific one, just more a generalization)

[lone coral]

You're not wrong.

[proud notch]

This is absolutely by design, the Jedi are both a religion and essentially a police force at this point

[lone coral]

I get that, for sure. I more meant that the meltdown in real life very closely mirrors the meltdown concerning police brutality. Like, how soon before we start seeing "Thin Gold Line" merch, and "Support The Jedi" bumper stickers?

[proud notch]

Thin Gold line 💀

Thin Saber line

[lone coral]

Getting the Punisher logo etched on their lightsabers.

[narrow lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[cosmic siren]

Thinner than the rebels sabers?

[proud notch]

Fayroth I kid you not I was also thinking of the rebels blades when I wrote that 😂😂

[crisp ravine]

I’m a firm hater of the dude on the far left I hope he gets murked first

I just think he looks dumb

[silk jacinth]

Poor Jedi

[cosmic siren]

Nah my man is great

I’m totally not biased because of the yellow saber

[proud notch]

Yellow lightsaber fans are winning this month

[silk jacinth]

Hope purple lightsaber fans too

[cosmic siren]

We’ll definitely get at least one purple saber user

https://www.facebook.com/ogrevanite/videos/1164226254779584/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

[silk jacinth]

Master Vernestra

[cosmic siren]

Meh hilt designs

[silk jacinth]

A shame it's near the end of THR because it'd have nice to see more elaborate designs

(But it'd have been a nightmare for me to paint because they have so much gold)

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-ralph-wiggum-happy-and-angry-gif-19979471

[light ermine]

I even wish we got more stuff that looked like the more simple prequel hilts but more gold, copper accents

A sort of halfway

[proud notch]

We sort of have this with Indara's but yeah I wish more of these hilts weren't just cylinders

[light ermine]

Yeah I was hoping Indara's would be the baseline but all the others are pretty much just black and silver/chrome. Except Kelnacca's too but we haven't seen that super close up yet

Has a cool emitter

[proud notch]

I like that specifically Kelnacca's is big

Also

Random shit tier meme I found on a Facebook comment section

[green mountain]

I dont get it ...lol

[proud notch]

Idk I just liked the caption

I think it's an old trend