To start my team is doing good but I'm having trouble with a couple things and want to make a couple tweaks, my team is rayquaza tera normal (my late game cleaner with e speed), corviknight tera flying (my hazard/screen remover), zacian tera water (my offensive lead to take out Ray's weaknesses), swampert tera steel( my hazards setter), miraidon tera electric with choice scarf (speed control/revenge killer), and ogerpon wellspring tera water (coverage support with knock off to deal with ghosts who are immune to e speed)
Now my problem is any time I have used ray in the end tera normal boosted e speed didn't finish my opponents like I thought it would, so should I go tera steel and can set up with dragon dance for a counter sweep after zacian has done the heavy lifting?
And with swampert I'm thinking of using the sitrus berry with 252 hp 220 def 36 sp def instead of swampert with focus sash 252 hp 252 def 4 sp def
The rest of the pokemon are good as is just those two, please someone help it's driving me crazy
#need help with my casual team
wide knot
haughty fossil
regulation H is coming out, where half your team will be banned
haughty fossil
i’m aware, but if you ever want to play ranked matches it would be convenient if your current team was allowed anyway
but if you’re just playing casuals
wide knot
Like I'm using ray as a late game cleaner but the tera boosted e speed isn't doing what it should
haughty fossil
what’s stopping you from bringing 6 legends
wide knot
Cause I want to use corviknight and swampert, great for using and removing hazards for ray
So I use a focus sash on swampert but can't help but think sitrus berry is better
And with ray the tera normal boosted e speed isn't doing what I thought it would, would tera steel be better so I could setup with dragon dance and counter sweep
haughty fossil
what is your team encountering problems with
there are much better rockers/removers in singles if you’re allowed to use legendaries
you could even argue that rocks aren’t viable in a format like that
wide knot
I know but I'm running those pokemon cause I'm bonded with em, so I'm looking for fun but to win some at least, mostly with the tera e speed not cleaning up it lost to a lokix
Other than that it does good just trying to fine tune
haughty fossil
if you’re using two mons out of three that aren’t legendaries you’re basically gonna be cooked every time by stuff like dusk mane necrozma and miraidon
wide knot
Miraidon isn't a problem for zacian so I'm good there
haughty fossil
it is difficult to improve your team without changing pokémon
but since your trying to win with your favorites, i would make sure you have u turn on corviknight and flip turn on swampert
wide knot
True but I'm mostly only needing to change a couple of things but I don't know if changing tera normal to steel will be better or worse
haughty fossil
so at least you can pivot out into your legendaries
wide knot
I have flip turn for sure and u turn although I was considering taking it out for taunt
haughty fossil
corviknight is too slow to use taunt in this format
wide knot
I considered it cause a lando used bulk up on and set up on it
And I'm running defog to get rid of stealth rocks for ray
haughty fossil
you could use a physdef hatterene to switch into certain stealth rockers
ofc magic bounce bouncing back rocks
issue is you’re weak to zacian and you might even get ohkod by specs miraidon
wide knot
Swampert is my zacian check
I've tested it in the damage calculator
And miraidon I have zacian or scarf miraidon
haughty fossil
yeah that works well, but it seems your team struggles to actually kill zacian bc your swampert is defensive
wide knot
With a sitrus berry it'll kill zacian
haughty fossil
if swampert takes any chip, +1 zacian can 2hko with play rough
wide knot
Plus wouldn't steel tera ray dragon dance then kill zacian?
haughty fossil
then run sitrus for sure, but if it teras you are in a lose position
haughty fossil
Plus wouldn't steel tera ray dragon dance then kill zacian?
from full i’m not sure you do
wide knot
Life orb earthquake could
haughty fossil
also if your opponent is running scarf miraidon you get drifted out of existence especially after rocks
haughty fossil
Life orb earthquake could
run a calc for that
maybe include flip turn chip from swampert on there
it just seems like misc legendaries roll over your team
wide knot
Ok I will, but while we're talking ray, is it better as a steel tera or normal tera better, and that's ok not all teams are legendaries the great thing with casual people run what they want
haughty fossil
it’s difficult to say for a non competitive format, i would keep tera normal bc tera steel has no offensive prowess and they’ll simply live your next attack and click a different move
wide knot
Are you sure if I tera steel then dragon dance after setting up rocks making their sashs useless I can sweep usually
haughty fossil
if they are using legendaries you aren’t gonna kill, especially if they have priority or a faster scarfer
+1 espeed isn’t gonna drop miraidon for example
wide knot
Remember in my strat zacian would take out those mons then ray comes in
haughty fossil
you could use a speed boosting booster energy iron treads to get up rocks, spin away rocks, earthquake zacian, and wall miraidons stabs
and you could even run that knock off coverage you wanted on ogerpon
haughty fossil
ogerpon is very bad in that format bc it gets outsped by every mon
the role compression of treads would be great for your team
no need for corviknight
you can set up and remove rocks, you’re faster than miraidon+zacian, and u can even use ice spinner to remove terrain
and ofc you could run knock off instead to hit ghosts switching in on a predicted rapid spin
you just need to run booster energy
that will definitely help your team
you can run tera ghost to be immune to zacian’s fighting moves
or just tera ground to keep your immunity to miraidon, and not be weak to zacian while also increasing earthquake damage
i would go with tera ground tbh
how’s that sound?
wide knot
It sounds good unfortunately for me ray/corv/zacian have to stay they are my spirit pokemon so I want to make it the best it can be with them
haughty fossil
hell you could even click volt switch on a predicted switch and bring in ray lol
wide knot
But I appreciate the advice
haughty fossil
It sounds good unfortunately for me ray/corv/zacian have to stay they are my spi...
i see
i respect you for trying to win with what you like
if only it worked that way 😭
wide knot
It has been doing quite well I just wasn't sure about Ray's tera
haughty fossil
stay with normal
wide knot
And swampert focus sash vs berry
haughty fossil
berry ofc
do swap out ogerpon if you can
or maybe make it fire type at least to help with zacian
in games you don’t use swampert for example
wide knot
You sure? It backs up my zacian and miraidon and corv
I considered the fire type first
But the water one also provides a check to kyogre
haughty fossil
fire type also gets an attack raise if you tera so you become super strong
keep in mind your fire one is faster than kyogre
and if it is scarf, you’ll need to tera something different
for example u could run tera water/grass on swampert
wide knot
Right and I reckon my scarf miraidon is a good kyogre counter
haughty fossil
but fire ogerpon is way better than water one in this format
alr man you have fun then
consider what i mentioned abt treads earlier
wide knot
Ok I will I'm gonna go play some other games while I think on it, bad anxiety and all lol but thank you very much
haughty fossil
no problem man