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viscid sparrow Dec 8, 2022, 4:06 AM

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Lmk what you guys think, I have iron ball arboliva cause it’s zero speed when it’s tera ground it out speeds and OHKO’s torkoals in trick room. Thinking about swapping out black sludge for air ballon on glimmora and making its tera type flying instead but would like feedback thanks

wind mirage Dec 8, 2022, 4:12 AM

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Why are you running tera blast over earth power on arboliva?

viscid sparrow Dec 8, 2022, 4:19 AM

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i guess i didnt have another earth power tm and didnt realize he could learn that till now lol thanks

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i tend to work on pokemon individually alot and had glimmora longer so its had earth power prob even before i got arboliva if thats the case i may put energy ball instead of earth power on glimmora just to deal with ground types more

normal owl Dec 8, 2022, 10:17 AM

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how do you deal with armarouge+indeedee

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there's also a distinct lack of protect

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would highly suggest putting protect on many if not all of your offensive pokemon

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swap sucker punch murkrow to foul play btw

viscid sparrow Dec 9, 2022, 3:28 PM

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Usually just lose to them lol or I like to aqua jet my arboliva and swap terrain with priority so it less of a problem then usually if I tera water it won’t K.O. Quaquaval and with arboliva chip damage aqua step finishes it off or they’ll come back in later but I usually have boost by then they haven’t been much of a problem

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And the foul play ik better but the priority sucker punch on murkrow has won me a few games when murkrow was my last mon alive lol so I kinda want to keep it for now

warped kettle Dec 9, 2022, 6:48 PM

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Sucker punch is great for revenge killing.

untold cosmos Dec 10, 2022, 1:23 PM

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I feel like iron ball is helping less than it could be hurting. Also I see 2 pokemon that are trying to abuse weather with only one manual weather setter.

viscid sparrow Dec 10, 2022, 4:26 PM

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Yeah so the thing is at first I had sunny day murkrow but I felt tailwind was more important so now I swapped weather ball with protect on arboliva cause it’s not that often I bring both arboliva and scovillian unless the match up calls for it but that isn’t too often

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Here’s the updated team, I’ve been feeling pretty good about it on showdown. Lmk what u guys think, and do y’all think it’s worth to make glimmora flying tera or do u guys think there’s a better option?

echo flame Dec 11, 2022, 3:51 PM

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viscid sparrow Here’s the updated team, I’ve been feeling pretty good about it on showdown. Lmk...

btw can you explain to me opportunist

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is it just for the dondozo

viscid sparrow Dec 11, 2022, 3:58 PM

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Tbh it’s just something I’m playing around with it sounded cool like in theory but there isn’t as much boosting going on as in gen 8 or we’ll useful boost for espathra to copy usually they’re boosting their attack but I want to make it work so I haven’t switched it yet but speed boost does seem like it was the better option after some battles

untold cosmos Dec 12, 2022, 4:03 AM

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Ye especially with protect giving it a free plus 1

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And after that you just spam lumina crash and have your special attackers pop off from their

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And honestly imo I’d sack glimora for torkoal so you can have a decent lead with that and scovilian

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But that’s just me

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Since you have plenty of ways to wreck ground types and just straight up resist it

viscid sparrow Dec 12, 2022, 4:28 AM

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Torkoal was a heavy option I was trying to think about who to swap out if I lose glimmora I feel i kinda get ran over my flying or fairy types, and I felt the same with everyone else, scovillian usually lives one hit so self set up sunny day isn’t too bad right now in the future I’ll be using them 2 together tho for sure

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I’m building this new semi trick room team right now tho, I’ll post it when I get it done but I really like it hope you guys will see!

viscid sparrow Dec 12, 2022, 5:58 AM

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Okay guys got another team here, lmk what u think. Skeledirge dondozo slowking all 0 speed to take advantage of trick room been playing it on showdown a little but what’s really fun is using soak then tera blast electric to pick up super effective OHKOs 😅😂

untold cosmos Dec 12, 2022, 7:58 AM

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All maushold sets should have wide lens no exceptions

viscid sparrow Dec 12, 2022, 3:42 PM

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Look I feel that but it’s not really for damage hes support really, I lead slowking Maushold follow me trick room so Maushold gets hit and I can bring in dondozo or tatsu and next turn swap slowking out with the others counter part and they’re in trick room with double omni boost

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Although 2 of the 3 times I did use population bomb my Maushold hit the 10 without the wide lens but that 3rd one that kinda mattered hit 3

echo flame Dec 13, 2022, 1:18 AM

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viscid sparrow Okay guys got another team here, lmk what u think. Skeledirge dondozo slowking a...

Couple things:

Get maushold to have friend guard, for additional support. Or use it offensively with wide lens instead.
Toxic orb tats so it dies while in dondozos mouth and it's a 2 on 2 but dondozo is omni boosted, rather than a 1 on 2.
I'm not confident but regenerator wlowking I'd say is your best bet.
Also idk what the tatsugiri color is, but if its not red make it red so you get an attack boost when you use order up

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In my opinion

viscid sparrow Dec 13, 2022, 1:23 AM

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Yeah so the thing is I only use shiny Pokémon so I need to hunt for Maushold in the wild cause I don’t want to wast a ability patch when it’s HA already I rather get a second but the toxic orb only works if I can get tatsu to die in there so he’d need to be lowkey HP I thought about doing that but then tatsu is just there for the boost alone when after dondozo dies he’s quick enough with sash to get a nasty plot and atleast 1 k.o. Before dying but it is the attack boosting one

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And that’s one reason why I made slowking tera deal incase I was to switch off oblivious I can still be immune to prankster taunt

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Tera dark*

echo flame Dec 13, 2022, 1:25 AM

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Eh I see what your saying about tatsugiri but if you protect dondozo every other turn I think you would be able to kill it in the mouth

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But yeah, I see why you use sash

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Also I have no idea what your saying about slwoking bc I have small brain

viscid sparrow Dec 13, 2022, 1:26 AM

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Yeah I’ve seen the play and that a valid point I didn’t think about protect stalling but right now I kinda like how it’s rocking maybe when i get higher up in rank I’ll have to swap haha

echo flame Dec 13, 2022, 1:27 AM

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Ok

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👌

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Btw do you consistently get trick room up bc 1 setter seems a little bit fishy even with maushold

viscid sparrow Dec 13, 2022, 1:28 AM

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And so oblivious makes me immune to taunt so I can’t be taunted outta trick room but if I went regenerator I’m not longer immune but most taunt mons I feel like are prankster right now so tera dark would make it so they can’t use prankster on me cause dark types are immune to prankster

echo flame Dec 13, 2022, 1:28 AM

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Fair

viscid sparrow Dec 13, 2022, 1:28 AM

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Yeah I’ve yet to have a problem gettin it up yet

echo flame Dec 13, 2022, 1:28 AM

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But then you use up your tera

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So oblivious is ok

viscid sparrow Dec 13, 2022, 1:28 AM

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Yeah that’s why I haven’t swapped it yet

echo flame Dec 13, 2022, 1:29 AM

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I see your point

viscid sparrow Dec 13, 2022, 1:29 AM

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Yeah maybe if it was for singles regen would be better but for doubles taunt is around a lot

echo flame Dec 13, 2022, 1:30 AM

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Yeah murrow and taunt is around a lot more than swsh

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Was murrow even in the game

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Murkrow

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Auto correct I love you

viscid sparrow Dec 13, 2022, 1:32 AM

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I think it was, if not def DLC the thing is in SWSH we had whimsicott for prankster tailwind and better stats then murkrow then we got tornadus I think is the with prankster tailwind too so by then murkrow wasn’t even considered lol especially with talon flame too

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But as of right now only 2 Pokémon with priority tailwind are murkrow and talonflame at full hp meaning if he gets fake out turn one it’s not longer priority

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