So I think it would be nice to have a perrserker only group for the raids
#Perrserker ONLY raid group channel
woven forge
sturdy charm
Why?
halcyon mist
Hard agree with this. Some people were talking about this already. Turning raid chat 2 into a perrserker raid chat or making a chat specifically for perrserker raids. The reasoning being now you have people looking to do raids the normal way mixing in with those wanting to do it the perrserker way. And some people expecting the perrserker strat join normal raids, or normal raiders joining perrserker raids. People do advertise most of the time if they are doing perrserker but I think a separation like with ditto raids would help a lot with organization, flow, and prevent and mishaps. Got a thumbs up from me
Plus, doing it the normal way is an experience, playing the game (imo) as intended while the perrserker strat is a cheese to get results, the raid be damned. So if people want to experience raids as intended, they can have a chat for that while the people who just want the results or the rewards of the raids ASAP can have a channel for it
tough slate
Big agree, lots of people think of it as "cheesy" and would rather not play with Perrserker players (I myself am one), makes sense that we separate the two
sinful gyro
We can't control what people bring into the raid though. You'll always have people just going through all the raid channels, see something they want, and bring whatever they can -- not necessarily a Perrserrker.
halcyon mist
We can't control what people bring into the raid though. You'll always have peop...
Right but people bringing whatever to a raid is different from people specifically trying to cheese the raid vs people playing it normally
sinful gyro
But
How are we going to stop them from bringing whatever
you don't. you can post ''perrserker only'' and people will still join with anything they have. a specific channel won't stop that
besides, there are several more strategies than just perrserker.
halcyon mist
It will though? It will help a lot with having normal raiders in the normal chats and perrserker strat in its own channel. I dont see how it wouldnt help. Ya you would still have people not following the guidelines and going to the wrong channel but you cant say it wouldnt make it happen WAY LESS by having them separated
Besides, ditto raids are just normal raids too. Less special and restricting than whats required for perrserker strat and yet that got its own channel, even though its just a normal raid.
sturdy charm
Ok
halcyon mist
Read and understand the conversation
sturdy charm
Ok my b
halcyon mist
Having a channel to separate the perr strat and the normal raiders so people are getting mixed up offers more benefit than having a channel just for ditto, which is just a normal raid just like anything you find in the raid channel. And yet, it was deemed different enough that it needs its own channel. Perr strat is FAR more restrictive, requiring a plan, specific mons, teamwork, etc. Compared to a ditto channel there is no possible way you cant justify not getting one if a ditto one is justifiable. It will minimize confusion, minimize clog where you have two groups of people looking for two entirely different things, all forced in one channel, and will make raiding for both parties much smoother
Plus, with two different suggestions about it, one with the MOST supporting reactions out of any suggestion thread, you can safely say its a desired concept by the community as well. Not even counting the discussions I have seen people have in chats about wanting more organized raid channels
And lastly, to touch on your last point, perr strat is far more popular and prominent than any other strat you or anyone might be aware of at the current time. I have yet to see anyone talk about any sort of strat other than perr. And if someone has, its few and far between. Perr is prominent. Theres no comparison to be made to say that if you did one channel, you would have to do it for all of them. Thats just not true at all lol
viscid lintel
Maybe a raid threads? Make a perrserker thread to have people seek out perrserker and it’s away from the raid a
halcyon mist
That could work as well. Just some sort of separation would really help. It has desire from the community
tawny kite
I know there’s a desire but there’s also a huge amount of elitism and toxicity going around. I’m all for supporting the communities needs, but this isn’t something we can moderate or enforce. People are free to raid with what they like. The difference between this and dittos is this is forcing a strategy and dittos is a community need.
I feel like it’s so early within the raid experience people are latching onto perrserker without understanding why. I’ve been doing 6*s all day just using various strats that do the job perfectly without fail. I don’t think encouraging more elitism and segregation is a good move. I don’t want to see people get dogpiled for it.
As for forums, we have #1040555642668199936. People have used that to organise perr groups
That’s my own personal thoughts.
We could try a channel for perr but if it gets toxic and people fail to understand that this is 130k server then it’s going in the bin
<@&663762019182182400> can weigh in
unreal harness
It's just going to encourage even more toxicity and elitism than there already is. Pretty much all the points seal made stand for me
hybrid ocean
Same, agree with everything here. One thing I will add (tangentially related); we have already made a second tera raid channel. People are constantly asking for more raid channels, and there is nowhere near the same amount of traffic in #wo-chien_raids. You guys are free to meet up there or something, but idk why people are always asking for more raid channels when one is barely even being used
sinful gyro
Plus, with *two* different suggestions about it, one with the MOST supporting re...
Nowhere did I state that if we did one channel, we'd have to do it for all of them. I'm saying there are many many many more strategies out there that are just as consistent as Perrserker and it's something the game literally gives to you. That set aside, as proton said, it would just invite even more elitism and toxicity.
hybrid ocean
The reason why we are avoiding threads in the raid channels is because moderator tools can't keep an eye on those, so we wouldn't be able to step in nearly as quickly if something happens
viscid lintel
The reason why we are avoiding threads in the raid channels is because moderator...
Ohhh I didn’t know that! Ignore my suggestion then lol
halcyon mist
All fair. The last thing anyone wants is for that to happen. If that's already the case then I'll stand down on the idea
hybrid ocean
All fair. The last thing anyone wants is for that to happen. If that's already t...
That being said, #wo-chien_raids doesn’t have nearly as much traffic, so you could encourage people to even out so it’ll be potentially easier to coordinate raids
halcyon mist
I'll do that for sure! Thank you all for your time, I appreciate the open discussion
hybrid ocean
Mhmm! Thanks for being open for discussion, too
bleak smelt
What's the best moveset for perserker