#would I be a terrible person for doing this?

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serene drift
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My older brother has a dog that he does not take care of. He works nonstop and expects us to take a late of his dog. We have flat out said no and he gets pissed at us. The thing is, he brought the dog without asking for permission and had let the dog tear apart the house and had not paid for any expenses. The dog has chewed up my AirPods and my brother has refused to pay for them. My dad has yelled and screamed at the dog, but he lets my brother be so selfish and lazy and neglectful. My dad has gotten more mad at me for complaining when he can fix all our problems. I have video of the damage my brother lets the dog inflict. I’m this close to posting the dog for sale since nobody here will do it. I’m so scared that my brother will beat me up for it since he is a body builder and I’m much weaker than him.

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Video proof

frosty minnow
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Is the dog in your name?

slate parrot
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As a dog owner your not wrong for wanting to give the dog away, it’s your brothers dog so its his responsibility. If he can’t take care of the dog that he got on his own he doesn’t deserve the dog. If you decide to give him away you’re in the right to do so because if he’s not taking care of it then its not really his dog.

hard steeple
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Omg poor dog

serene drift
frosty minnow
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I think the dog would be happier in an environment he is loved and well cared for. If your brother does not take ANY responsibility for his dog then he shouldn’t have one. I’m also a dog owner, a 4 month old puppy. Dogs are a lot of work and while the family can help by bringing him out to potty or giving him food when your brother is not home is okay

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But not the whole raising being neglected because he can’t make time for it

slate parrot
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Just make sure the dog goes into a good home, and even if he tries to hit you call the popo because your brother is lazy and only has that dog because he doesn’t want himself to feel like he’s neglecting it but he is and if he can’t acknowledge that then the dog deserves better

frosty minnow
serene drift
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We have told him straight up that this is not our responsibility and he even said he agrees

hard steeple
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Post your brother for sale instead

frosty minnow
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@slate parrot they can’t sell the dog if it’s not in their name. Dogs, while they are animals, are actually seen as possessions in most countries

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You can call animal services on the dog though but you’ll probably pay a few

serene drift
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The thing is, he’s not a little kid that doesn’t know any better or something like that

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He’s a 23 year old man

frosty minnow
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The thing is you asked us if you should put the dog up for adoption

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You cannot

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Legally if someone takes the dog your brother can sue. And you cannot transfer ownership on paper without his signature

hard steeple
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Maybe you should talk to your brother first about the dawg

serene drift
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But we’re all tired of living like this, his girlfriend even got on to him and he refuses to take any responsibility

frosty minnow
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So you basically let the dog be stolen

hard steeple
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Could call PETA or animal rescue to take it

frosty minnow
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I get it, but it’s time to maybe sit him down or call animal protective services

hard steeple
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doesn’t matter who owns it

frosty minnow
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No it does, unless you’re calling it on him as a third party

slate parrot
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The dog looks like he want to run around and play and it seems like your brother can’t provide that for the poor baby, id say maybe call the animal shelter make a request say that he’s being neglected. Looking at the dog he looks like he’ll get adopted easily

frosty minnow
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The dog lives with the family

serene drift
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I’ve debated it, but my dad said “well it’s not really abuse or neglect. It’s just a lazy and selfish owner” and he’s worried about paying fees and tickets since it’ll go to him

frosty minnow
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It will go to you guys

hard steeple
frosty minnow
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Since it lives in a family home

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Abuse entails the dog not being fed, bathed or being beaten

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Animals causing damage isn’t exactly the family abusing him

hard steeple
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you can easily say that you just can’t and they will take jt

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Ive worked with those services before

serene drift
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I’ve even debated on going to social media with all the evidence to say “hey, this is what he’s been doing the past YEAR, and we are suffering with it”

hard steeple
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We used to have all sort of those situations

slate parrot
frosty minnow
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Yeah that would be grand but they cannot sell or adopt it out without the brother’s signature

hard steeple
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Once its taken by animal rescue its no longer his propert

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y

serene drift
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But he does have a job and I don’t want to ruin that opportunity for him

hard steeple
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its siezed legally

frosty minnow
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They have to do home visits and call him though

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They still have to call the owner of the dog

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So things will escalate quicker than expected

serene drift
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Heck, whatever money I get if I sell the dog, I give my every word that the money goes to him. I don’t want the money, I just want my dad and I to finally be happy

frosty minnow
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And if he is aggressive then that is dangerous

frosty minnow
serene drift
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I love my dad a lot, but he really needs to grow some balls and put his foot down

frosty minnow
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And if he doesn’t take the warning of EVERYONE at once

hard steeple
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Why can't anyone just take care of the dog

frosty minnow
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The dog isn’t even potty trained to a pad

serene drift
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I nor my dad want a dog in the house. If he took care and actually trained him, I would definitely be more lenient and even grow to like him

frosty minnow
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The thing is, you guys are with the dog and while unfairly you still got yourself into the position of taking care of a living breathing animal

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Your house is literally contaminated by shit.

hard steeple
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Mhmm make sense maybe you guys should train the dawg first

serene drift
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And it’s been like this for over a year

frosty minnow
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This escalation with the dog should’ve happened

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In the first weeks

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Of the dog being there

hard steeple
serene drift
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I honestly don’t even know

frosty minnow
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I think all of you kind of neglected the dog other than feeding him from how it looks

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It destroys things without remorse, doesn’t listen to anyone and shits everywhere

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Your house is a literal health risk

serene drift
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I will admit I did, but my brother told us numerous times that he will take care of him and train him.

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And my dad hates any animals so there was just no way he would do anything for him

frosty minnow
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The thing is

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How did you live with the dog till now

hard steeple
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Maybe you could train him?

frosty minnow
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That’s highly irresponsible from every party. Yes, your brother is the main antagonist because he brought a dog and didn’t care for anything

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But neither you or your dad are very innocent. Instead of trying to train the dog as a puppy to at least pee and pop on pads you guys let everything go. You don’t play with the darn thing even if it really needs it and it’s showing you

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Dog needs a routine

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And while it’s alright to ask for help and have family members help your brother really messed up

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But everyone in the family did at some point

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Dog should’ve been gone more than half a year ago

serene drift
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I do take some fault to this situation I will admit that

frosty minnow
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The first thing you can do is sign up for classes. You can’t get rid of the dog immediately anyway. Try to buy those scented pads from Amazon that will attract him to do his business there

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For your own health

hard steeple
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It's not too late to train the dog

serene drift
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Family has actually bought him doggy diapers and potty pads

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He just never trains the dog to use them

frosty minnow
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Try training him to do his stuff there

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If he does his business there give him a treat and praise him

serene drift
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There’s legit a full pack in his room that he just doesn’t use

frosty minnow
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He doesn’t have to shit multiple times a day I assure you at 1 year old so take him on walks twice a day after feeding him

serene drift
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I guess so

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I just don’t want to take care of a dog that I don’t want

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I’m not a dog person ig you can say

frosty minnow
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I get it but it’s there and right now you can’t get rid of it

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Not today

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So do it a favour and your own health and take it on a walk

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After he eats

serene drift
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He actually doesn’t have a leash

frosty minnow
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Get him a leash then from the local pet store

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The thing is you just want to avoid responsibility because you don’t own it. It’s in the family

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You don’t have legal power to get rid of him unless you do something drastic

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So get everyone together and basically verbally start argumenting to get your brother on board to rehome the poor thing

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But until then someone has to bring him out so you don’t contaminate yourselves further

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It’s unhealthy to be surrounded by shit and pee all the time

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Get the dog a couple toys while you get the leash so it can actually chew something else other than your stuff

serene drift
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I guess

frosty minnow
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Try to find a home for the dog and present it to your brother

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Your brother is not attached to the dog otherwise he would do the basics at least

serene drift
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I’ve asked around if people wanted him, but I haven’t gotten any yesses

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And it’s not like if I got a yes, I’d sell right away

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I’d tell him about it and say the money is yours

frosty minnow
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Yeah no but it’s unsafe to put him online

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With your brother and all

serene drift
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And he does follow my instagram and Facebook

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I could have it so he can’t view the story

frosty minnow
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Yeah you guys have to sit him down together

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And tell him he either starts training and picking up shit

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He has to rehome

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Feeding a dog once a day when your brother isn’t home is one thing

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Having to raise it all by yourselves is another

serene drift
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Yep

frosty minnow
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My mother wakes up earlier than me now that I have a school break

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She brings my pup out to potty

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That’s it

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If I’m not sleeping I’m with the dog all the time

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The only time she takes him is if I fall asleep while he naps and don’t wake up with him

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And it’s a wanted dog

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That is legally mine

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So I take responsibility. I bring him to classes, to play dates, I feed him most of his meals (unless I arrive late from classes) and walk him at night and in the morning

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My mother joins me at night often cause she likes it not because she must

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I potty trained my 4 month old WITH the help of the people in my house because we all want a clean home

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Doesn’t mean they had to do it in my stead

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That’s what young owners do and families

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If someone owns the dog they take most of the work and the rest help

serene drift
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Yeah, he said that it’s my responsibility to clean up the messes he did and I legit laughed in his face

hard steeple
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Maybe she hates dogs

serene drift
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I’m just not a dog person at all

frosty minnow
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Yeah and I get it

serene drift
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More of a cat person lol

frosty minnow
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But it’s a living being

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That relies on all of you

serene drift
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I do believe the dog is the victim in all of this

frosty minnow
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So all of you should help in but MOST OF THE WORK like 80% should be done by your brother

hard steeple
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Dress him up as a cat lol

frosty minnow
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The thing is

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You all have to take care of him

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That dog will be unwanted the more he ages and the less he knows

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Not everyone will have the patience to potty train a 1-2 year old dog who doesn’t even know how to sit when asked

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And can’t walk on a leash

serene drift
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I will happily help take care of him, but I’m not training him

hard steeple
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Why not

frosty minnow
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Don’t have to, you have to force your brother to train him if he wants to keep him

frosty minnow
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It’s not her dog

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I wouldn’t want my family to train him either and neither do they want to despite LOVING my dog

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Because it’s my responsibility

serene drift
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It’s not legally mine

hard steeple
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Then the dog will still shit all over the place

frosty minnow
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Yeah that’s the thing

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Brother had to put his pants on and start training the dog

hard steeple
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Poor dog nobody wants him

serene drift
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So, something I actually have thought about but it’ll be very toxic if I do

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I have often thought about taking a piece of his droppings and putting it on his bed so he can know how it feels

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I’m petty but not that petty

frosty minnow
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Yeah I mean he won’t learn he’ll just go somewhere else to sleep

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Dogs don’t do their shit where they sleep

serene drift
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Yeah

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But it’s like he doesn’t listen to us at all

hard steeple
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Does the dog destroy your brother's things too

serene drift
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Yep

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Not as bad as our things tho

hard steeple
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Maybe let the dog destroy all of his things lol

serene drift
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I have thought about maybe “accidentally” leaving his door open and “not noticing” that the pup took his shoes

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Like

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I didn’t see anything 🤷‍♀️

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Maybe that will wake him up some

serene drift
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So, I talked with my dad and he agreed that it’s not ours to sell ourselves. I will admit I was mad during the original post, so I have calmed down now

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But he said nothing about letting the puppy ruin my brother’s belongings

deep plinth
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he deserves a better life than this

serene drift
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So, that’s actually happened once

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Funny enough, he has no collar either

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But he did run out and for some reason my dad had to go get him back

deep plinth
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nooo dad why would u do that😭😭

serene drift
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Like dang it, we were on a roll

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But like

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Winter is coming, and I can’t control the wind that happens

deep plinth
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yea that’s true.. it would be bad to leave him in the cold all alone

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but winter isn’t here yet so maybe a family will take him in, or animal control will find him before then?

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if where you live is already v cold tho…idk

serene drift
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Well, he’s an inside dog currently

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But like….. you can’t control the wind inside a house

deep plinth
serene drift
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No

deep plinth
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then I would just let him out