Steam 2

[gentle prairie]

i'd presumre rare is better late tbh, cuz iirc it would go

normal-rare-legendary with the upgrade system, right?

[carmine ermine]

It would, but the upgrade system can make Normal act like Legendary regardless. It just takes 2 upgrades.

Translation error tells you otherwise.

[gentle prairie]

oh ok.

so...would common be better? or epic

cuz i imagine common is more numerous, but rare is a bigger boost

[carmine ermine]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gentle prairie]

also

bows are the fucking worst weapon in the game

by a long shot

they suck SO much ass

not because you have to aim

but because they just...ugh

aim but no way to improve accuracy

im sure this is prob just a skill issue

but i was stuck on my run just now with only strike wing

[carmine ermine]

They have perfect accuracy when fully charged.

What you're probably suffering from is the slight arc caused by gravity.

[gentle prairie]

you try headshotting a grenadier thats running at mach jesus

[carmine ermine]

Same applies to pretty much all snipers except maybe Goshawk.

Want a clean shot? Wait until they're not moving much.

[gentle prairie]

FUCK STAGE 1

[gentle prairie]

"oh lets just spawn all the most annoying enemies in the game in the first stage, and make it so they two tap you but you hit them for pillows"

[carmine ermine]

You can thank rampant player scaling for making it feel like that.

Later acts would likely kick your ass just as much if it wasn't for how quickly you gain power.

[gentle prairie]

but no its literally unfair

grenadiers are cancer

the elites are cancer and take decades to kill if its the soldier or beetle

...actually wait those are the only two elites

nvm

[carmine ermine]

What difficulty are you playing on?

[gentle prairie]

reincarnation 9

cuz i may as well

[carmine ermine]

That's why.

You're calling the hardest difficulty... hard.

[gentle prairie]

its more that lvl 1 is unfairly bullshit

for being level 1

[carmine ermine]

Other way around.

It's more that later acts are absurdly easy, given it's supposed to be the hardest difficulty.

[gentle prairie]

but its literally so annoying

you find no good weapons

enemies take an eternity to kill, meanwhile they can oneshot you

grenadiers fucking EXIST

[carmine ermine]

If most runs can end with you murdering everything instantly despite it being the greatest challenge the game can offer, it's too easy.

[gentle prairie]

(Points at ror2)

guess thats too easy then

because thats how all runs go eventually

(...either that or you murder your pc

[carmine ermine]

You talking about RoR2 endless?

[gentle prairie]

yes

[carmine ermine]

Endless doesn't count.

It's literally designed for messing around and having fun in.

Difficulty is no longer a concern.

[gentle prairie]

then i should be abl;e to have fun here and not just

spawn

get gang raped by fucking cancer grenadiers

die

rince and repeat until i get lucky

[carmine ermine]

Because what you're dying by is not endless.

It's the first act, pre-endless.

Difficulty there is a concern.

[gentle prairie]

and act 1 should be "you establish your build and settle in"

not get gang raped by a fucking cancer enemy who can 2 tap you

[carmine ermine]

The solution to that is lowering the difficulty.

[gentle prairie]

its so bad i literally have to run battle scarred just to live more than 2 secconds

copycat is ass

[carmine ermine]

Don't want enemies to be hard? Don't play on hard difficulty.

[gentle prairie]

but everyone plays on r9

[carmine ermine]

Because they know they scale to instantly kill everything anyway.

[gentle prairie]

but i never get there because FUCKING GRENADIERS RAPE ME

FUCK

[carmine ermine]

And with certain starting options, act 1 becomes easy anyway.

[gentle prairie]

starting options i can never buy because im almost always out of jades from leveling/revives because

guess

guess what

grenadiers

[carmine ermine]

If you've got no soul essence to spend, have you considered (once again) lowering the difficulty so it's not so hard?

[gentle prairie]

but then i get no soul essence

and again

every

body

plays on r9

[carmine ermine]

Irrelevant.

Don't do what everyone else does, just because everyone else does it.

Play your own way. If the game is too hard, no one will laugh at you for lowering the difficulty.

[gentle prairie]

i got laughed at by 2 crown princes for not having high damage numbers

so

i probably fucking will

[carmine ermine]

Also, all difficulties give soul essence.

[gentle prairie]

yes

but higher gives more

[carmine ermine]

The Reincarnation levels barely give anything extra.

Like... +5% per level for only normal enemies.

Most of the increase actually comes from Elite and Nightmare difficulties.

+10% for normal enemies, +40% for elites, and ranging from +20% to +50% for bosses, each difficulty.

So you can safely play on Reincarnation 1 with all the super powerups and still get most of the soul essence gains.

[carmine ermine]

Oh and this would happen regardless of if you played on R9 or not.

Because if you don't have the soul essence to buy blessings, your damage output will suffer MASSIVELY.

Turns out, +1000% damage buffs have a pretty big impact on things.

[gentle prairie]

...anyway

why is it that the lightning sword is the only one that doesn't consume ammo?

now ive vented abit how fucking grenadiers can go die off a cliff

[carmine ermine]

Because Flowing Light's primary attack sucks. That's why.

Shorter range than the weapon skill, less damage per second even if you include the weapon skill's charge up time, has less synergy with bonuses that apply for a single shot, and only staggers on every second hit in quick succession, meaning your opening attack can get counterattacked.

[gentle prairie]

tbh i think that fire tower's is worse.

idk why

tbh i almost exclusively use shotguns and launchers

MAYBE pistol if im nona or its talisman

this fucking challenge is so challenged

"oh, beat the fucking game without interacting with a character's CORE MECHANIC"

jesus im so angry

[carmine ermine]

You mean Owl's frame?

[gentle prairie]

yes

thats what ive been going for the whole time

[carmine ermine]

That frame actually aligns perfectly with his core mechanics.

[gentle prairie]

no i mean the challenge

its like

[carmine ermine]

Because you want all your scrolls to give the exact same bonus so you have the highest chance of rolling that colour, which you need to exclusively roll to get the good effects.

[gentle prairie]

yeah, but i reset a scroll and just get trash, then im stuck scrolless or collecting fuckin legendaries

[carmine ermine]

So to cut it simply, you get all the scrolls of the exact same colour.

[gentle prairie]

but you just upgrade scroll anyway

so

its just annoying because like

you get a legendary scroll you gotta scrap it

you get a shit eppic or common, you scrap and are scrolless

or you just roll a shite weapon like fucking dragons light and die

fucking

god owl feels like ass compared to monke

[gentle prairie]

i dont get the corrosion sword

[versed fox]

smack stuff enough to get charge

charge sends out wave that does more damage based on enemy hp

[gentle prairie]

oh i get that part

but like...

why does it use ammo but i can swing without ammo

[carmine ermine]

Because it suffers without ammo.

Normally you have 30% Decay chance, with the 3rd hit in each combo having a 100% Decay chance and +60% total damage.

If you have no ammo, all hits get 0% Decay chance and the 3rd hit has no bonus damage.

(Weapon skill can still inflict Decay though, since it doesn't use ammo.)

[rich sierra]

i'm in a reincarnation 9 in endless run (forgot the name) and can't deal more than that damage no matter what i do it is a UI bug or something like that?

[carmine ermine]

Damage cap.

10,000,000 for weapons, 30,000,000 for skills. Modified by elemental effectiveness and Combustion.

[rich sierra]

oh first time i see that

so no way of going above without being a skill?

[carmine ermine]

Yep.

[rich sierra]

wait does that mean the Highest damage possible in a single hit is 30m?

i think i have dealt way more than that

[carmine ermine]

No. Modified by elemental effectiveness and Combustion.

Also True damage has no cap, but there is only 3, maybe 4 sources that can achieve higher than the cap.

[daring berry]

How far have people gotten on endless? Seems like its getting easier and easier as we go

[carmine ermine]

Beyond 1000.

[daring berry]

stage 1000?

[carmine ermine]

Yes.

You'll never die or slow to a point it's not worth continuing.

[daring berry]

jesus lol

im surprised that the scaling on dual edge and the assassin scrolls outscale the increases in their resitences.

[cedar prism]

i think jonwillbert accidentally overwrote his endless save file at like stage 5300 or something

[topaz aspen]

True damage

[topaz aspen]

Wait, as in run over??

Human error is your biggest enemy sadly

[gentle prairie]

this owl challenge is makin me so annoyed.

even switched to reincarnation 1 and its still a pain

but like

owl and monke are the only 2 i have maxed

and i wanna play somethin other than monke for abit

[spice forum]

I went with R1 and legendary scrolls

Epic scrolls can be rerolled wihtout problem into legendary , legendary rerolls

and on R1 with a card build you barely need scrolls

just get overconsumption from lone wolf 2 and then explosive cards

[gentle prairie]

tbh i find epics better

cuz its like

middle ground

good scrolls with good chances

[spice forum]

Yes but with this challenge if you reroll an epic you have the chance of losing out on the scroll
Going for the legendaries you only need a few of them to really take off
only one even : Dual Edge

So I just rushed Act 1 with OVerconsumption and Explosive hands until I got Dual edge and then just finished the run

And now with the Season 1 its even easier than before

since you get special effects at the cost of no scrolls

5m after golem with a tiny bit of luck

All I need

And also this baby

makes the run WAY easier

[gentle prairie]

i just grabbed variable

[topaz aspen]

How to destroy all RNG in a game built on RNG:

[gentle prairie]

theres still rng getting legendaries from resets though

[gentle prairie]

tbh im considering Bible go mode rn

[spice forum]

from bosses and elites only

and I am not even using my weapon right now

Thats just how bonkers the cards only are

[gentle prairie]

ig if you arent like

doing this challenge, building star is good too?

[spice forum]

decent

[topaz aspen]

Nah, once you get any legendary then you can get any legendary you want

Enhance it even

[spice forum]

also as shown above

[gentle prairie]

i more mean like

actually getting a legendary

because ive just reset 2 chest scrolls twice and not 1 legendary

[spice forum]

Thats more common than you think

[topaz aspen]

Not really

[somber summit]

Really isnt rare, bosses also drop one

[spice forum]

^^

[somber summit]

And at the end of elite horde one aswel

[spice forum]

And with the thunder call Arcane you can easily steam roll Tomb

[topaz aspen]

You're more likely to get the legendaries you want than the rares you want

[somber summit]

Or just explosive hand alone

[spice forum]

Cards + Thunder Dashing is all the tomb done without shooting in just 5m after a while for you

runners do this in 2 mins and less with optimisation but even just 5m is hella fast then

and then you get 1 -2 scrolls at least

Only dashing and Cards

[gentle prairie]

kinda wish you didnt have to waste a reset if you wish to recycle

this is such a fucking pain

didnt get a SINGLE legendary last run

[spice forum]

If you made it to the Act 1 boss and defeated them impossible

Boss drops are guarantees

Getting to the boss with no legendary is indeed possible but after that you have to have 1

[gentle prairie]

guess where i died

fucking

4th area

because you get two shot by fucking

stupid fucking bullshit soldiers who just hide and spam everything

fucking can kill themselves

and i keep wasting my spiritual jades trying to get a good 2nd staring augment

[spice forum]

wasting ?

You know if you reroll and quit in the waterfall area you get all refunded , right ?

Its literally only time wasting there to get the blessing you want within 4-5 rolls

[gentle prairie]

no?

[spice forum]

roll up to 4-5 times and then quit out and do it again

[gentle prairie]

i assumed you lost them forever if you quit cuz its the same as losing

[spice forum]

no

[gentle prairie]

i also lose them because i revivew

[spice forum]

not there

[gentle prairie]

fuck it. im going to go play nona to farm jades.

could get her frame too while im at it

seems quite easy

[spice forum]

And then when I quit

[gentle prairie]

...

bruh

and nobody told me till now...

still. gonna go farm jades on nona and go for her frame

cuz it seems easy sauce

[spice forum]

Seems but random downs of your bot can happen

[gentle prairie]

i mean ye, but as long as you rez him

[spice forum]

You do you , it still has to be fun at the end of day

Just my last sum up of personal advice for Zi's frame :

On R1 and get Explosive Hand at the waterfall

Go into the vaults and go for legendaries

you will notice how fast the cards shred and how fast you can reset if you dont get what you want

[gentle prairie]

oh also, queston:

Does Mastery (the skill that boosts iron wing's power/AS) apply in missile mode? or just melee

[spice forum]

And goes without sayin : Only the ascensions from the left tree that are cards only

[gentle prairie]

what if you dont roll them in one particular goblet?

[spice forum]

just grab whatever

[gentle prairie]

ok

[gentle prairie]

and this?

[spice forum]

Iron Wings stats should be shared between his modes

[gentle prairie]

ah ok. cool!

[spice forum]

For Zi :
Yellow is pretty much useless in card only
Purple is the good stuff and blue marked is nice to have if no other option is there

[gentle prairie]

ye ok

fuck i forgot how fun nona is

[carmine ermine]

Scrolls and weapons auto-recycle when you leave a stage. You don't need to reset them to recycle them.

[spice forum]

That wasnt the issue

Yes they auto recycle but if you need the money in that moment you need to waste rerolls

[carmine ermine]

You rarely need the money in that moment though.

Yes it's an issue, but the game already compensates for not recycling it at all.

[gentle prairie]

I JUST PHASE SKIPPED BOAT BY DUNKING IRON WING ON HIM

JESUS FUCK

[gentle prairie]

...first owl run and ive got both explosive hand and a legendary scroll stage 1

its fate

[carmine ermine]

The legendary scroll: Break the Ice

[gentle prairie]

was advanced depot

but legendary is a legendary

[gentle prairie]

good news: i beat the run

bad news: i mucked up cuz i chose a cursed scroll on the rest area cuz i didnt know it would schorlp into me

[gentle prairie]

ok so...question

which of the 3 ascension powers (carapace, lightning and elemental burst) are best on which character?

ik lightnings the majority

[deft venture]

The advice that I was given, is it depends on which build you are going after
Are you doing a primary skill build? (Bird leap, turtle agis etc) You go for lightning.
Are you doing a secondary skill build? (Owl cards, dog atomic etc) You go for thorns
Are you doing an elemental build? (Catto, tiger, fox etc) You can go for element burst

This is the general rule of thumb, you can definitely choose others too, like use thorns on fox to spam meteors etc

Also I'm not sure how accurate this is so take it with a grain of salt

But so far it worked well for me

[gentle prairie]

ok

[deft venture]

Btw guys got a question about double tap + counter violence, does triggering a crit with a multi projectile weapon consider a crit for each projectile or is it just one instance of crit

[carmine ermine]

Whichever projectile triggered Double Tap, it takes all bonuses from that one.

So if the triggering projectile got a crit and lucky shot, but literally all other projectiles didn't, the Double Tap shot will be all crits and lucky shots.

[deft venture]

Awesome, thanks!

[spice forum]

Actually on the Arcane

you can go thunder on all and forget about any build semblance

[gentle prairie]

i mean...maybe?

but i imagine mileage varies

like, i found thunder on Nona wasn't all that good.

especially if you pair it with IW'S missile mode

[spice forum]

The issue is

Thunderstep is good on its very own

The thorns really need you to go into a secondary use build to become decent

They can be strong but for example dont profit from Ao's ascensions for double casting or atomic Dog

And with Atomic Doc the thorns are useless

[topaz aspen]

Pretty sure thorns dont benefit massively from Zi Xiao, if not, at all

[spice forum]

as there is nothing left to hit

[gentle prairie]

tbh thorns is hot garbo

like

i agree with that

i think elem is decent/

i just think elec gets alotta mileage when you have skills that pierce/ hit large areas (e.g. monke, firefox)

[coarse parrot]

r9 act2 worm boss, do I remember this correctly, you have to dodge through the breath attack because it's too fast to dodge away without big enhancement scrolls right

[spice forum]

too fast period

the full attack cycle is less than half a second ( or around that)

R9 you either kill it before it reacts to anything or dodge through it

[coarse parrot]

makes sense, got back into the game and this ended two runs in a row by just getting hit with the first attack so was not sure if I rememberd it correctly that you need to dodge through, guess my timing is just off

[carmine ermine]

It's not too fast period. You just have to get stupidly close to the worm to avoid it.

Y'know, "I should immediately back away before it attacks again and decides to melee me" kind of close.

[versed perch]

Im almost done getting al the achievements, but I really dont understand Xiao and the cards.
Could someone explain me very easy what exactly I need to do for this achievement: Destiny's Choice Using 200 times of [Falling Star] of [Legendary Astrohouses].
I dont like this complexity so I just wanna rush it asap

[tulip steppe]

get as many legendary scrolls as possible (and epics), swap to mainly legendary in the scroll page in inventory, then spam primary ability

[versed perch]

Ok, ill try that, just to be sure, only elgendary and epics, nothing else right?

[tulip steppe]

you can have normals, just not like 30 normals and 4 legendary (i believe)

its a very easy one to do

[hasty cape]

Matching cards with your secondary gets you a better special attack so try use it when you get a match as often as possible some Goblet upgrades give you a more likely chance of doing so more often, basically try to reduce the rng of getting lower rarity astrospects when selecting upgrades and try to re-roll lower rarity scrolls into higher ones if they don't assist your build

[regal crag]

0% = No bonus
20% = 20% chance of 2x
100% = 100% chance of 2x (2x bonus on every hit)
120% = 2x on every hit, 20% chance of 3x instead
200% = 100% chance of 3x
220% = 3x on every hit, 20% chance of 4x instead

[tulip steppe]

thats +20 days old btw

[stable nova]

Could someone explain to me what made the infinite HP oppressor build for Bird not work anymore? Maybe I'm reading the wiki wrong, but it would seem that the max bonus up to max HP cap would be irrelevant if the max armor is being converted into HP anyway, effectively increasing the max bonus cap too, right?

[carmine ermine]

Something about the game now ignoring percentage max HP bonuses, which is the whole reason it could scale infinite.

Something like that.

[rustic nova]

In "infinite journey" mode, how do you get to the end if you only have 10 minutes? play and end up with a weapon that did hundreds of miles of damage and advance as fast as I could, but only get to the second boss.

[somber summit]

build issue

[carmine ermine]

Shoot faster.

Hit more often.

Run quicker.

[topaz aspen]

Also there's no end

[ivory parrot]

You weren't advancing fast enough

Damage doesn't mean jack shit if you can only hit 1-2 enemies at a time

[trim swan]

Hi, I still exist

I'm just waiting for more content

[regal crag]

how do you get that youtube rich presence

[trim swan]

my status?

[topaz aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/yipee-meme-gif-25350387

me too ngl

havent touched gunfire in ages

[trim swan]

I'm playing the game once that roadmap hits

[topaz aspen]

yeah next update is new occult scrolls

wonder which one will completely ruin the game

[trim swan]

and new characters

[topaz aspen]

that is later this year

I think Quarter 3

Quarter 2 is new occult scrolls

[regal crag]

yes

[trim swan]

PreMid

[trim swan]

can't wait for jonwilbert to get sub 6 with them

[topaz aspen]

that will be funny

[regal crag]

do you guys wanna hyperanalyze these pictures

weapons looks like 2 staffs, a pistol, and something else

dont know what that could be exactly

the characters i dont really know what they could be like

[tulip steppe]

you can see their themes

[gentle prairie]

Lei Luo is so fuckin fun

holy damn

[stable nova]

Two words. Painkiller cat. Thank me later

I also still extremely disagree with the terminology they used for endless journey and think it should be name swapped with boundless dream, which is currently ACTUALLY endless as long as you don't die

Endless Journey isn't too fun imo when you're having to speed run every single stage in under a minute if you want to not lose time and they take out half of the interactive things in each stage

[carmine ermine]

Both are endless. Endless Journey's name is still accurate.

Only thing limiting you is the timer, which you can be faster than.

[regal crag]

endless is accurate for both, boundless is only accurate for, well, boundless

[carmine ermine]

Boundless is a synonym of endless.

They mean the same thing.

[stable nova]

Unlike endless journey, boundless dream never forces you to go back to the inn. That's what I mean by endless not being accurate because it's not truly endless

[regal crag]

i thought boundless meant unlimited, as in no limits such as scroll cap and time limit

[carmine ermine]

Endless doesn't either, if you're fast enough.

[stable nova]

if

[carmine ermine]

You'd be correct if all you got was 10 minutes and that's it.

[stable nova]

there's like 4 builds in the whole game that actually accomplish that consistently

[carmine ermine]

But you can increase the timer faster than it decreases.

Therefore, endless.

[carmine ermine]

By this logic, Nightmare difficulty shouldn't be called that either because some heroes like Fox and Red Panda can easily tear through it, so it's not a nightmare to get through.

Did they just leave...?

Huh, they did. Oh well.

[gentle prairie]

question, when you're doing boundless/endless, and you recycle a golden goblet, what does it mean by "recycle bonus"?

[topaz aspen]

Recycle bonus is a stacking buff
Each stack grants 1% weapon damage, 10% Skill damage and -1% primary cooldown

Primary cooldown bonus caps at 90%

[gentle prairie]

Ooooh

[digital notch]

Man being new at this game is kinda scary while everyone talks about all this powerful stuff in the late game lol

Picking up the game out of nowhere ain't easy apparently

[gentle prairie]

Tbh i find it easy all the way up to noghtmare

Then it gets unfairly hard and the. Back to decent with reincarn

[digital notch]

Don't even know what reincarn is lol but I'll eventually get there I suppose

[hasty cape]

Just experiment and have fun, games are supposed to be fun. Though the idea is different between everyone in video games, some enjoy the idea of a ball bustingly hard difficult challenge, and others just enjoy taking it easy

[digital notch]

I'm new enough that my biggest achievement so far was learning that the pirate ship boss has a full row attack and I wasn't getting instant killed by Zeus' might

Just unluckily standing in the range of 2 cannonballs at the same time

[hasty cape]

Nice! Funnily enough that's one of the harder bosses (imo)

[digital notch]

Only way I learned that was getting lucky and kind of cheap strategies

Got that thing that makes you get +1 max HP when you kill enemies close to you

And started farming one of the monks on the third level

So I had like 320~ HP by the time I got to the ship

Managed to live the "insta-kill" (I thought it was an instant kill at the time) and saw that

Fun stuff

[jaunty ivy]

Honestly, reincarnation is so much easier than nightmare.. especially when you’re in boundless now.

You just go wild bananas everywhere with reincarnation blessings

[gentle prairie]

Yeah

Like. Nightmare is so unfairly difficult for no reason

[jaunty ivy]

Took me like 30 tries before i ended up using mr bird

[gentle prairie]

I just got carried in multi

[carmine ermine]

Fun fact: The higher Reincarnation levels used to be harder than Nightmare, because, y'know, they were supposed to be the harder difficulty.

[jaunty ivy]

bro you lucky. i've watched tutorials tryna beat that shit. 😭

Happy with my current progress. Stage 200+ on boundless, 2 trillion damage total right now. 🤝

[gentle prairie]

i mean ye. i just dont really get why nightmare is such a spike.

[carmine ermine]

It used to be the hardest difficulty.

Before Reincarnation.

[jaunty ivy]

with the Arcanes, R9 became 100% more easier....

[carmine ermine]

So being advertised as the super tough new difficulty, it was made to be hard.

[jaunty ivy]

R10 when

[carmine ermine]

Never.

Because either it won't solve anything or it will solve something but piss people off, get nerfed and go back to not solving anything.

[jaunty ivy]

fair enough

[carmine ermine]

At this point any higher difficulties is just meaningless stat inflation.

[jaunty ivy]

R9 still has some challenges to it anyway.

You don't always get "what you want" in a normal run

[carmine ermine]

Because it makes one of the problems worse.

That being "Longling Tomb is super hard compared to everything else".

The only impact R10, R11, etc, will have is making that problem worse.

[jaunty ivy]

I guess.. that defeats the purpose.

Still fun though.

[carmine ermine]

You can have the same amount of fun with less of the sudden death on R1.

And if enemies die too quickly, well that's no difference from the current R9 in later acts, so yeah.

[jaunty ivy]

Mind me asking, but is there a hard cap on soul essences?

[carmine ermine]

25,000

[jaunty ivy]

Ah, that explains it.

Thought the guys on reddit and youtube stopped at "25,000" for perfection and aesthetic stuff.

Also, the weapon gems i get on boundless won't save the levels right? only the weapon inscriptions are kept to themselves??

[carmine ermine]

Weapon gems...?

[jaunty ivy]

yeah i call them "gems"

like souvenirs for running x amount of floors

i don't retain the levels, right?

e.g if the weapon i put on the arsenal guard is +50 i don't get to use it for future runs as +50?

[carmine ermine]

Yes. Weapons you store in the arsenal don't keep their levels.

When you pull them out they match the level of the weapons found in the current stage.

[jaunty ivy]

Okay. Thank you for the info! i should keep running i guess till i find the ones i really am eager to keep.

[rustic nova]

Do you know if there is a record for maximum damage in a game?

[carmine ermine]

Infinite.

Or the closest to infinite without crashing the game.

[jaunty ivy]

i think its inf

or close yeah. highest i saw was 999999999 i think lol

[carmine ermine]

That's the soft damage cap, which is nowhere near what you can actually reach.

[tulip steppe]

last highest i’ve seen was 120bil or something

[jaunty ivy]

guess i still have long ways to go

[jaunty ivy]

per hit, no?

[tulip steppe]

in one hit, yes

[teal basin]

For the sniper inscription: +1.0x critx for next shot and drops ammo for current weapon when defeating an enemy with crit hit

is the critx applied on my next attack regardless if i hit something, or only applied the next time i do damage

[tulip steppe]

🤷‍♂️ doubt anyone has tested it

[teal basin]

i tested it, it applies the next time i do damage 😄

[jaunty ivy]

Ok, I will try this out. So far mine is still weak. even with 10,000 dual edge, my gauntlet deals about 50mil per trace + ewd bonus. Will figure out what's wrong with it i guess

[tulip steppe]

na, it’s purely the Arcane ascension Thunder Step

@jaunty ivy

[fast topaz]

[tulip steppe]

1trill when

[jaunty ivy]

yo wtf lol

that's wild

[somber summit]

Clearly new player lol, there is alot of gamebreaking stuff

[jaunty ivy]

nah not really. the arcanes are new to me. but i havent realized their full potential as i've not played often haha

I have already about 200h gameplay on steam

[somber summit]

Rookie numbers, even before arcanes you could hit past dmg cap with things like spirit argus and miasma or pf

[regal crag]

arcanes:

they are way too op

[elfin oak]

How are you supposed to beat endless mode. I can only make it halfway through act 2 before time expires

[carmine ermine]

Shoot, move and kill faster, typically.

[topaz aspen]

you need the sweatiest builds unfortunately
and not every character is capable of the mode sadly

[balmy zephyr]

hey anyone knows when the season ends?

[topaz aspen]

not long now, but no correct answer or rough estimate

[elfin oak]

what would said build be

[spice forum]

It will be soon that the season ends ( since we started mew spoilers that should be obvious)

[languid hamlet]

I deleted my save file since I thought it jut was some random run that got saved, is there any way to recover it by any chance, would suck to redo everything.. :/

[spice forum]

Unless you have Steam cloud save enabled you deleted your save file

[languid hamlet]

Should have it enabled yes

[languid hamlet]

Tried searching up posts on reddit or youtube but none seemed to work

[somber summit]

Womp womp

[languid hamlet]

I just started a new playthrough 😂

Only 50 hours of waste so not that bad

[ionic linden]

Does anyone know what happens when you have a gun with over 100% elemental effect chance? I have a Ksana and art of decay and (ideally a piercing flame) with it.

[topaz aspen]

if it is over 100% it will act as if it is 100% meaning it is guaranteed to trigger elemental effect

[ionic linden]

Cool. I will keep farming out the piercing flame with over 100 then as well

i find them set up with ele share are a great way to use the arsenal but it only hit me yesterday that you could get to 100 by gettting elemental base + 100% elemental increase

[languid hamlet]

Should be an achievement for accidentally deleting your save file lol

[balmy zephyr]

Damn I'm missing the last reward but can't complete some of the last challenges sadge 😦

[topaz aspen]

I think they are gonna be purchasable with soul essence once it is over so dont worry :)

[carmine ermine]

How much do you think the most expensive thing will be to buy?

My money is on 250 soul essence.

[tulip steppe]

skins 500 🙂

[topaz aspen]

hmmmm yeah around there I believe

probs stickers and such 100

[spice forum]

Which cant complete? the whole 40 rewards are doable solo

[topaz aspen]

Actually I reckon he might be on about the last soul essence reward?-

or that they are struggling on the last missions for the illusion skin

[spice forum]

Last rewards sounds more like the skin

if not… its just essence ..

[topaz aspen]

Me personally I left it at 40 lol

I only wanted the illusion skin

[spice forum]

same for me but also because of the reason of not playing with mp a lot

[topaz aspen]

yeah I like, never play with people on this game

I dont enjoy it tbh

[balmy zephyr]

yeah I am at 39 of 40 rn, I suppose I'll do the last one needed this afternoon x)

[spice forum]

it just sounded like you cant because you cant complete as in "too hard"

[round thunder]

hey @spice forum you got a moment?

It's rather important

[spice forum]

Yes ?

Also you if you all really have important stuff.. just DM us directlywith the questions or such, back and forth takes time so it cant be that "important"

[ionic linden]

which one are you having trouble with?

[keen rune]

Question the lone wolf player count, does it drop more rewards / soul essence since the mob count is higher as well?

[hasty cape]

i would think so

[keen rune]

if i keep going for the act 4 and i lose, do i lose the soul essence that i should have got if i won act 3?

[spice forum]

if you loose you take with you the soul essence earned in the run so far

doesnt matter where you die

if you earn 20 essence in the first level and die the second room in the next.. thats 20 essence
If you earned a total of 349 in the whole run and die t the last boss

thats 349 essence

[keen rune]

I see, thank you, regarding the interdependent fortunes, does it stay through all the acts including bosses and it can stack ?

[carmine ermine]

The choices made with Interdependent Fortunes are permanent for the entire run, but enemies have a limit to how many scrolls they can have at once, so it randomizes per room.

Act 2 gets 1 scroll for normal enemies, 2 scrolls for enhanced enemies and 3 for elites. Bosses are unaffected entirely. Each enemy gets +1 scroll in act 3, and +2 scrolls in act 4.

If you take all 4 options at all 3 acts, by the time you're at the final act enemies will have 12 scrolls to choose from, and hold 3-5 of them at once.

[mint whale]

what is the best fox build?

[carmine ermine]

Spiritual Flame.

Unless you're doing endless/boundless. Then it's the worst build.

[mint whale]

whats best for boundless

[carmine ermine]

High RoF Weapon build, same as pretty much anyone.

[mint whale]

also whats best build for bunny

is card build on owl not good for boundless?

[carmine ermine]

High RoF Weapon build. Though as bunny you also get Swords Out to use as well.

[carmine ermine]

Not as good as high RoF Weapon build.

[mint whale]

ok thanks for the help

[regal crag]

falling star build almost oneshot everything for me but I ended the run pretty early like stage 40 so idk.

only tried falling star

[empty plank]

whats the point in daily challange?

is there a reward ?

[regal crag]

100 soul essence

it's a single act

pretty quick

[empty plank]

Ahh okay thank you

[carmine ermine]

It's pretty much just for the steam achievements or curiosity playing around with game modifiers.

The soul essence reward is so low that doing a single act normally earns you more. Plus you need to succeed to get anything with failure giving nothing. Normal runs you at least keep what you collected.

[empty plank]

What achievements ?

[carmine ermine]

Complete a daily challenge.
Complete 5 different daily challenges.

[empty plank]

Oh brilliant thank you

[ionic linden]

I am working on trying to craft weapons for my arsenal and theres been a LOT of RNG for doing it.

Is there any way to possibly use the save/continue feature to attempt rolls multiple times to try to get favorable results?

[carmine ermine]

Not really.

Even if you do use that, each stage gets re-randomized.

[ionic linden]

hm do you have any tips to attempt to get more favorable outcomes or tips/tricks?

Ive been going on deep boundless runs with enhanced + supreme crafter + eye of prov to hunt for rerolls and using the chests to refine inscriptions past that/get correct enhancements.

[carmine ermine]

Nope.

[ionic linden]

if say i saved and then i used a red chest to put on a green to blue change and it was an unfavorable outcome, would say quitting out allow me to go back to my old save with the unbricked weapon?

or even something as simple as an etch that was an unfavorable outcome

[carmine ermine]

I dunno, probably.

I neither do boundless nor save scum.

[ionic linden]

I wouldnt be thinking about save scumming if the weapon crafting rng wasnt so brutal XD

[carmine ermine]

And I don't care for the stuff that would require getting perfect weapon RNG in the first place.

[ionic linden]

Seeing it was possible made me excited, I wanted to try to get a close to perfect aura and a firescale and some other ideas. its pretty unique to be able to save weapons so i figured filling my vault with really special stuff like 100% ele weapons and weapons for builds that are more weapons centric would be really neat to have

[ionic linden]

Bummer. did a few run tests and the save system seems very fragile at keeping the save

[tulip steppe]

some guy before knew a little trick that helped, took a long time anyways

[tulip steppe]

i got a peak crimson still

[carmine ermine]

Can't you duplicate arsenal weapons by going coop, giving the arsenal weapon to another player, then Alt+F4ing to force the game to forget the "progress" you made?

Or does that only work on save states?

[tulip steppe]

you can, yea

[carmine ermine]

Nice.

[ionic linden]

What was the trick?

[ionic linden]

If you don’t mind us duplicating it at some point I’d very much appreciate that

[tulip steppe]

#1055550986292297838 message #1055550986292297838 message
this guy was farming them

how he did it #1055550986292297838 message

[spice forum]

Basically

Arsenal and take the gun in your backpack all the time with you rerolling at the Missions or chests until it fits

[ionic linden]

Oh so basically what I’ve been doing

[spice forum]

Yeah , no special trick to it other than if you want to dupe it

[empty plank]

Is there a time left for the season pass ?

Like do we know when the season will end

[tacit pine]

Maybe 1 week-2 weeks

[ionic linden]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-tm-soon-space-gif-23401891

[median sun]

how popular is spiritual assault?

[carmine ermine]

Not very

[median sun]

yea i thought so since i legit never bother doing match making anymore

waited 30mins and no one lol

[hard dock]

That just sounds like match making in general these days.

[carmine ermine]

It's both.

[median sun]

understandable, I'm just getting back into the game so i didn't know if things were still the same.

[ionic linden]

Does anyone know if theres a pattern to how the red chests spawn their modifiers or if theres a limit of how many X to exclusive ones can spawn per run? Im in endless pushing stage 100 with eye of prov checking every single chest and ive gotten 1.

[tulip steppe]

i don’t think anyones tried to figure that out

[spice forum]

In run its random

Only exception is a vault

As far as I know the red chest in the desert boulder vault is the same every time

[carmine ermine]

It isn't.

Sometimes it's weapon boost selection. Sometimes it's scroll searching.

Unless it actually is the same always, just with different room variations.

[topaz aspen]

me trying to figure out if they mean the actual endless or boundless

[carmine ermine]

If they're checking every single chest, it's probably boundless.

[topaz aspen]

most likely

[carmine ermine]

Endless you probably reach a point you just don't care. Can't get any more scrolls or goblets, only weapon levels.

[topaz aspen]

In actual endless you would be at a point where EoP would most likely be swapped out

aka round 1

endless you have to be at a point where you need as much damage as possible, or that timer will drain fast

[carmine ermine]

And how long does it take to cap damage?

[topaz aspen]

you are only looking to damage cap with Xing Zhe in early rounds

unless you are Xing Zhe, you are not gonna comfortably damage cap until the 90s

and most characters wont get there, because the "struggle phase" will already end their run

[spice forum]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/CV64WOpfdntyaUvLR5vLThMbDnd5zrALDLi6CJiaaGk/https/media.tenor.com/ypNhZenQoUUAAAPo/kasik.mp4

[topaz aspen]

spoon

[spice forum]

spoon indeed

[topaz aspen]

you put it on multiple channels-

have you been hacked by the spoon man??

[spice forum]

Just a spoon

beware the spork

[topaz aspen]

you have been hacked by the spoon man!!!

https://tenor.com/view/comically-large-spoon-real-how-gif-24041374

[ionic linden]

Boundless. Thanks for the correction. Yeah I was running with the specific intention of crafting. Trying to change a certain affix on a gun in my vault from 1 to another. My friend and I had duplicated it a few times so we had multiple attempts before save resetting. Just seemed crazy that only one was found when going that long.

Eventually we did get 2 more but had to roll all the way to 150 to see them.

Sadly all 3 bricked

Yeah I wasn’t sure if there was some logic to how the red chests spawned since the dry spells for hitting random to exclusive can be really long

[tulip steppe]

well, when you have perfect; you have perfect

[topaz aspen]

All I can say is I am hyped for Friday like crazy!!

[ionic linden]

thats fair haha

[tulip steppe]

that goes hard

Rifle Adjustments

[spice forum]

yes

they will fire slightly to the right where you aim

you all wished for adjustments

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-paw-simpsons-wish-gif-22682473

[topaz aspen]

they will shoot behind

you

[tulip steppe]

HD2 expereince

Revealer comes as a suprise to me

[jade valve]

I think revealer hasn’t reached the point where it needs to be adjusted yet.

[tulip steppe]

Cavalry wasn't mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/malcolm-x-angry-mad-upset-hit-gif-5005267

[jade valve]

Hexagon

[tulip steppe]

it now never loses its absorbed dmg, scaling infinitely

[topaz aspen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751520514446458920/969295734618869910/redditsave.com_h1440vj6q2w81.gif

[jade valve]

That isn't good enough cause damage cap is still limited

[versed fox]

-Restored hexagon to its state when it was added to the game

[tulip steppe]

its changed?

[versed fox]

It was bugged to scale really REALLY fast

[storm haven]

yooo season 2 drops in a day or two cant wait

[topaz aspen]

Welcome back Nihao!

[storm haven]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-true-smoke-gif-23157983

holy shit the pf cult still strong

[storm haven]

still shredding lanterns as monke???

[topaz aspen]

heh! you bet!

I am saving a really cool Tao run for friday tho

[regal crag]

doesnt everything shred lanterns

unless your a close range build

then lanterns shred you

[jade valve]

Nah, windrider can hold this

You can even walk on the lava

[regal crag]

when i looked at this message minecraft crashed

witch

burn them

[carmine ermine]

Good luck burning them. They can even walk on lava.

[hasty cape]

they float tho

[regal crag]

boy do i love dying in longling tomb

[regal crag]

every single fucking time i try to play dog

i die in longling tomb or desert

[carmine ermine]

Sounds about right. Dog has numerous flaws in his character.

[regal crag]

i get burst down so easily

its so hard to find good weapons at the start

[storm haven]

I just reset until it’s a weapon I’m cool with

Or starting spiritual blessing

[gleaming rover]

nothing better than getting double edge soon

and just going, fuck it we ball ( I got one shot by the time I reached worm boss )

[regal crag]

especially enhanced

[inland spade]

he goated tho

[carmine ermine]

If you bandaid his flaws he is.

Luckily the game offers you several bandaids, including Spongebob, Dora the Explorer and Adult varieties.

[gleaming rover]

ngl but I feel like the tiger is literally easy mode

[ionic linden]

Tiger and panda are easy mode at reincarnation

[inland spade]

Simply follow torgues advice

[topaz aspen]

Lei Luo just auto kills things and Nona's mech plays the game for you

[ionic linden]

I mean yes hence they are easy mode XD

[topaz aspen]

May as well play as Iron Wing

[wet hatch]

new update 2morrow? :O

[tacit pine]

yep

[topaz aspen]

Absolutely! :)

[wet hatch]

heckin yea.

[spice forum]

Yup

[gleaming rover]

Nice I got the last level of the pass right on the last moment then

[wet hatch]

i cannot wait to see the details of the new season. it seems to be activated abilities?

i really hope they are as fun as some of the season 1 passives.

[ionic linden]

Just gotta do gemini and enhancement but i finally have a porcupine im happy with

[ionic linden]

Not sure if I should do fierce lucky or multiple. I’m kinda leaning multiple

[carmine ermine]

If you aren't hitting the damage cap, Fierce. If you are, Multiple.

[ionic linden]

Fair I just made it so no idea

I just know I really like the weapon so I figured I’d do it justice

[tulip steppe]

its stronger on consol

[ionic linden]

Yeah but consoles are basically not getting updates to my understanding so a fair trade off haha]

[maiden warren]

My kid accidentally deleted his save he’s so crushed. Is there anything I can do to fix this for him?

[carmine ermine]

Aside from getting a save copy from someone else? Nope.

[ionic linden]

people from the discord could help him rebuild it

jumpstart his progression by doing multiplayer with someone who can carry the run so he can get to the difficulty he was on

What mod should i finish this with?
I was thinking either ele spread or acc/stab. What do yall think?

[tulip steppe]

spread i’d say

[ionic linden]

thanks

[ionic linden]

I was aiming for ele spread, do i keep or revert? .-.

[dreamy marsh]

UPDATE IS HERREEEEE

need a run asap

[restive fern]

Anybody having issues with "ascension"? Not sure if it's character specific, but playing Zi Xiao, after you pick up a goblet, a "second" one appears with Chinese text and a clock icon and you don't get an upgrade to the ascension that you pick.

[ionic linden]

It is done

Just needs an enhancement

[rocky cliff]

Translated with Google Lens. Try it yourself!
https://g.co/lenstranslate

i have no idea that this is

un translated text

[nova loom]

THAT RAINBOW SKIN IS SO FIRE

[tulip steppe]

and they made a skin for it

you know this, didn’t you

[ionic linden]

I acttually didnt

I just happened to hit a cracked 4 mod base and then spam etched it for the 5th

#buildyourownrocketlauncher

[ionic linden]

Should i do nimble for reload or elemental for #moreelemental? or something else haha

[tulip steppe]

just normal Fierce or multiple i suppose

[wheat dome]

Tutel shield

[topaz aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/calor-quente-banho-agua-sabado-gif-14771166

[wheat dome]

It can go to 20k(but I can't capture it also I send the wrong pic)

[topaz aspen]

Tutel is just a big boi

[balmy zephyr]

Hey can anyone explain to me the difference between these?

[versed fox]

#gunfire-faq message

[raw merlin]

can you not switch modes with Hound if you're playing as Nona?

because mouse 3 also toggles Iron Wings firing/strike mode?

YOU CAN APPLY THE LIGHTNING KSANA SHIELD TO IRON WING WHAT

[spice forum]

He is an ally

[empty plank]

Not always 😈

[raw merlin]

full wrangler engineer playing: spamming lightning ksana and hardwood missles at fire mode iron wing

[ionic linden]

Very much not a fan of the mechanism keybinds on controller

not sure why they thought L3 combos were a good choice that you cant change 😦

[jaunty ivy]

i'm on a boundless dream run. should i restart to get the new scrolls for my runs?

nevermind - just appeared on my run lol

[thin epoch]

Wait, I just got the news about season 2

How does Scroll Enhancer work? It made no sense to me reading the patch notes

[ionic linden]

Recycle a scroll

It has a chance to upgrade another scroll and delete itself

Chance to delete self is based on how many enhanced vs non enhanced you have

[regal crag]

lower with more scrolls, 100% with no scrolls

[topaz aspen]

Increases chance by 20% automatically for every successful enhance

[ionic linden]

I just use it as a 1 off upgrade to any 1 scroll I want by dropping everything else

[carmine ermine]

I see you think that Scroll Enhancer is just Enhanced Dual-edge in disguise.

[ionic linden]

I mean you can take the rng or just take the best option haha

I use it for enhanced dual edge or enhanced master craftsmanship depending on if I’m doing a crafting run or not

[regal crag]

can matrix buff melee if you have combat mode?

or without

is the cat hero core a dmg buff to all damage or to projectiles passing through the matrix?

[carmine ermine]

Test it and find out.

[regal crag]

is mechanism damage skill damage?

[carmine ermine]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Probably is.

I'm not gonna test and find out though.

[shell obsidian]

It is, there is an upgrade that makes the turret swap from skill damage to weapon damage

[arctic spire]

anyone know if skill freak works on acidominance 3?

[carmine ermine]

Yes.

[steady bay]

What's yall fav hero?

[regal crag]

i think i like matrix

it only took a 30 second clip so not the full fight but i think this is enough to see the power of matrix

holds up in endless (atleast at the start it is) too

[regal crag]

finally got back to back

[ionic linden]

The more I have played the more I see the value in every hero. I only don’t like turtle and monkey

[regal crag]

i went back to inn after i got back to back achievement, i didnt feel like going farther

i didnt really know what blessings to take, i had copycat, armed caster, ultimate gambler, and ice blade

ice blade i got intending to use to kill normal enemies faster since i was summoning tons of swords for skill damage buffs

[regal crag]

does matrix hero core for bird just increase the range and nothing else? or does it do like another damage so doubling the damage

does the matrix buff cleave?

or punch

[misty torrent]

Where do I message about my save file being corrupted

[carmine ermine]

#1060159100006178816 Create a channel here.

[steady bay]

I like the bird and ao bai (i forgot the birds name : /)

I did also JUST unlock the lighting tiger, so Ill try him out soon

Im bad at remembering names : (

[topaz aspen]

I can for some reason remember them all perfectly

but dont worry

everyone just calls them by their animal

(except me because I am weird)

[heavy bridge]

they kiss

[topaz aspen]

Baby iron wing is growing up!!

[carmine ermine]

The Iron Winglets will soon have an Iron Wedding.

They will be gifted many skill damage scrolls.

[topaz aspen]

So cute!!!!

[heavy bridge]

next season we'll have the hounds' children

they're named bark bork and berk

[spice forum]

I still by giving it the wrong name

Should have been Bronze Titan

Our own BT

and these now would be

BayBT's

[tulip steppe]

Winglet

[topaz aspen]

my little baby iron wing

[thin epoch]

That is the smart way but the dumb-fun way would allow me to get like 3 enhanced scrolls on average, right? And it seems like it is destroyed so you might find it again and again and again, right?

Legit fun for dumb people like me

[ionic linden]

Ye it’s got more fun uses

If it was a lower rarity I might use it in the same way

[formal oar]

I just can't stop giggling at this

[round thunder]

Does greedy choice just not have an enhanced effect? I think that would be the first scroll to do so.

[cyan ice]

It does, the update notes said it's supposed to let you use it twice

so it might be a translation mistake

[spice forum]

not might

is

[cyan ice]

I didn't say for certain in case the base language they copy pasted the non-enhanced and forgot to change it or something

[heavy bridge]

why am i such an idiot

[regal crag]

for lei luo sniper build is it better to take lone wolf counterviolence or copycat?

is gradual improvement still worth taking if using a high critx sniper?

or is it better to take something else

like lightning messenger

[shell obsidian]

Counterviolence the blessing? One of my favorites

[steady bay]

Ok phew lol

[regal crag]

crown prince
ao bai
qing yan(g?)
lei luo
tao
qian sui
xing zhe
li
zi xiao
nona

I memory them

[shell obsidian]

I only ever remember the names of the four I play as and crown prince cuz starting character/easy to say name

[carmine ermine]

• Clown Prints
• Ow Buy
• King Yarn
• Lay Low
• Towel
• Quill Suit
• King She
• Lee
• [Error: Cannot Find Good Stupid Nickname]
• Iron Wing's Sidekick

[steady bay]

Yep that's the only one i remember, lol

[steady bay]

Should i get The rabbit or the Water bird

[shell obsidian]

Water... bird?

[carmine ermine]

That's a turtle, m8.

[shell obsidian]

OH, I was so confused lol

Was thinking there was a new character or something

[steady bay]

OOOOOH

I saw a beak and wa slikw "mm bird"

But right turtles got mouyths like that too lol

Also i ment grind i almost got 400 and i know the turtle is 600

So should i buy the rabbit or save for turtle thats what i ment but srry for being dumb lol

[carmine ermine]

Really depends what you value more.

High RoF hero, fast melee hero, or getting talents that benefits everyone else.

[steady bay]

Hmm

K got tao

Read what they did so ima try em out now

So fa rim really liking herA! just obliterated a elite!

[inland spade]

Rabbits cool

You weren't in the trenches of original release

It still keeps me up at night

[versed fox]

human face rabbit

[steady bay]

Wh- what was it like on original release?

[carmine ermine]

This.

[earnest minnow]

4 Lone Wolf i guess?

[nova loom]

disrespecting my owl

toxic

[regal crag]

greg over there with the holy brick sacrifice

[topaz aspen]

that aura of venom is about to have a ritual circle appear beneath it

[earnest minnow]

Man is summoning the holy Venom

[regal crag]

for ao bai is it better to run dual of one weapon/type or one fast one slow

[formal oar]

How many more DLCs gonna be made?

[thin epoch]

Well

New stuff works so fucking poorly on controller I tried M+K

M+K plays like ass I have no idea how this game is even successful

[topaz aspen]

no definite amount

[thin epoch]

either you guys are masochists or I just suck on m+k games except Counter Strike

[formal oar]

So we get that infamous endless DLC stuff again?

[topaz aspen]

When I mean no definite amount, I just mean there isn't an amount of DLCs that are confirmed

[formal oar]

Oh ok

I just hope Diyu won't become like a Paradox

[regal crag]

you just suck

is ao bai better dual launcher or dual auto weapon?

[empty plank]

Has anyone here got all the steam achievements?

[shell obsidian]

Yeah I do

Many do I think?

[empty plank]

How many hours do you have ?

[shell obsidian]

Like 500 ish?

I had less when I got the last achievement though

I think I had around 300 then, and last achievement was just doing dailies

[regal crag]

i have 112/122 with 178.7 hours

[empty plank]

The exclusive frame for crown prince what did you do

[regal crag]

splinter orb

a couple ascensions

[empty plank]

I feel like I have them stunned for over 10 seconds but no luck

[regal crag]

like more freeze time

and power source

and i spaced out my skill use

i think i got it on act 1 or 2

[empty plank]

Yeah I get the spacing I’m doing the right stuff just gotta actually do it 😩

[shell obsidian]

I used the blessings and did it to the spinny dude in the first area. Got lucky with ascensions.

[steady bay]

Huh, eh not that bad, all thouhgh i satill perfer the new face

Sorry it took me a bit to repond, i was sleepin

[regal crag]

lightning messenger or gradual improvement? for high damage build

why does lei luo die in 3 hits to everything

[carmine ermine]

Lowest HP + Shield/Armor of anyone.

He's a sniper, not a tank.

[regal crag]

i mean yeah

[shell obsidian]

Grab the plus 5 shield for each elite one. I've ended runs with 230 plus shield, and on boundless over 2000

[regal crag]

id rather +damage per far crit kill

[carmine ermine]

Juggling between the 2 worst Gifted Man choices, huh.

[regal crag]

why is it the worst?

[shell obsidian]

I just like seeing the number go up lol

[regal crag]

it will scale past the other weapon choices wont it

i dont even look at the defense ones lol

[carmine ermine]

+damage per far crit kill gives you a miserably tiny bonus, even if you play it perfectly.

[shell obsidian]

I usually choose the 50% lightning effect one

Works nice with painkiller and that one lightning in crit talent

[carmine ermine]

+shield per elite kill only really starts going when you've killed several elites, but by that point you're probably in act 3 and nothing can kill you through your godlike offensive power anyway.

[regal crag]

after 167 kills (probably able to achieve easily if you distance yourself from most enemies) it is better than the +50% lucky shot and +30% to high health enemies

[carmine ermine]

Not really.

Not only is 167 kills about 1/4 of the entire run's enemies, but the weapon damage you get per crit kill is additive with the most common source of damage bonus.

Lucky Shot is less common, giving it an edge over it because it doesn't suffer from diminishing returns nearly as much.

+30% to high health enemies is multiplicative. It never gets diminishing returns.

[regal crag]

oh

i did not know its multiplicative

[regal crag]

well what if your going endless

[carmine ermine]

Not many do. Thanks translations.

If you're going endless, lining up every enemy so you can crit them at a distance is going to cost you significantly more time than the damage bonus will save.

And if you're going boundless, who cares.

And for both cases, you'll end up with Dual-edge and Extravagant Consumption, which are significantly faster scaling.

In Dual-edge's case, it's +233% scaling and works on every kill.

[regal crag]

what weapon is best for gradual improvement high damage build?

[carmine ermine]

Something with low CritX, because it gets a bigger overall bonus from Gradual Improvement.

Pupil and Shrieker are often good choices.

[regal crag]

alr

i dont think i really want to use pupil since then i cant get fire+corrosion combustion

would sunder work?

[carmine ermine]

Maybe, but it's got a high CritX.

[regal crag]

it has like 3

and a good damage amount

[carmine ermine]

3.5

[regal crag]

is that base or including the talent

[wide sail]

the ridiculous aoe spam after this update is annoying asf so many cheese deaths u cant do anything about

[carmine ermine]

Base. With the talent it's 4.0

[regal crag]

is this a mistake?

[carmine ermine]

Is what a mistake?

[shell obsidian]

When energy is below 20% you gain 3 extra per second. What would the mistake be?

[regal crag]

it says it goes back down to +30 at level 3

[regal crag]

it says it goes back down to +30 at level 3

[carmine ermine]

Oh that. Yeah most likely.

Probably a typo. My money is on it's supposed to be +100 energy cap.

[regal crag]

yeah that would make sense

for fully in control achievement can you use lone wolf still?

[carmine ermine]

No.

[shell obsidian]

Oh, didn't even notice that

[noble bronze]

Hi guys! im new here. im just wondering if anyone knows what this reward is for?
I've been looking for it for 20 mins and i couldnt find it.

[shell obsidian]

It's an idle animation for the prince

[noble bronze]

I see, thank you very much!

[fickle sequoia]

Lost my savefile in this last update....anyone had this and managed to fix it?

[dapper hound]

Capped 😢

[dapper hound]

Copmleted missions look like +150(+0)

[wind pawn]

yea you get used to it

[pure shard]

whats the best hero to use bow with?

[tulip steppe]

Lei Lu

[cyan ice]

I've been avoiding Qian Sui since the rework, I hate that they removed Hostile Gift

[tulip steppe]

he won't be forgotten

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055550986292297838/1095710539918880819/Supreme.png?ex=6631a2b6&is=66305136&hm=84fed63552b2a0c749cd3d0079a316cbf9687f496e648175726044f7da228106&

[carmine ermine]

@tulip steppe Speaking of Rainbow Arch, with the "much needed buffs" that just happened recently, I wonder what the new theoretical maximum damage would be if the cap didn't exist.

Because Rainbow Arch did just receive 85 -> 100 base damage and whatever the increase to "+DMG% per bullet charged" is.

[tulip steppe]

its 4 for charge instead of 8, and seemingly same dmg output

so double dmg + 17.6% dmg

should be 10 Quintillion

oh yeah, + mechanism of matrix for +50%

so 15

[carmine ermine]

4 for charge with the damage of 8...? Wow. Primary fire has literally no reason to exist now.

Especially given the charge was pretty fast already but apparently got made even faster. You just spam that instead of shooting properly.

[tulip steppe]

correct

[tulip steppe]

my calc had it as 80 lol

[carmine ermine]

Oh hold on...

[tulip steppe]

i never tried it, but i made a calc for if Depot triggerd its 50% consumption

[carmine ermine]

Hmm. Update note said 85, but wiki said 80. Must be 80 then.

The powercreep grows further than expected.

[tulip steppe]

hum, old math didn't take endless into account, could coppy and do that too

someone screenshot a shricker BaseDmg cap at 100k flat, right?

found it, yeah

so 100k it is then

at weapon lvl 6250.. do you think that its still capped at lvl 5000?

[carmine ermine]

The level cap was apparently raised even further this update.

At least in Boundless Dream anyway.

Well, it merely says "Adjusted" but since when has that resulted in a nerf?

[tulip steppe]

the cap seems to be 100k BaseDmg instead of lvl 5000?

[pure shard]

is act 3 still final zone?

[spice forum]

no

[heavy bridge]

this run can go on for literally forever because leap is giving me infinite i-frames

the skill cooldown is basically how fast i can hit my F key

[tulip steppe]

yupp

you can basicly reach that in tombs with bird

[heavy bridge]

balanced character

i went back to the inn tho the run is getting boring and i'm getting hungry

[tulip steppe]

the Boundless experience

[spice forum]

Nah

you gotta go to an all you can eat buffet after that

for the true boundless experience

[heavy bridge]

boundless stomach

god i fucking hope our plumbing is also boundless

[fallow hound]

anyone knows how to complete mission 31 and 50?

[tacit pine]

For mission 31 you only need to kill 100 enemies with lighthing blast, revealer, rainbow arch, and dragonchaser for mission 50 is just playing arcana ascension from the past pass

[fallow hound]

tyvm

[tacit pine]

np

[heavy bridge]

is it 100 for each weapon or 100 amongst them in total

and for mission 50 do you have to complete the run

[tacit pine]

That's with any of those weapons.

[tacit pine]

It is not necessary to do the complete run, you just start the game from the past pass and abandon it and complete it that easily

[heavy bridge]

thank you

[tacit pine]

np

[cobalt grove]

Has anyone seen an issue where you get revived and all of the sudden your controller will not shoot?

[rustic nova]

Hello, I have a question about the new powers (the shooting robot and the two "flowers"). When I used the guardian of righteousness the first time, it threw a rectangle that did damage as it advanced, but now I use it back and it is an immobile shield (I clarify that the first time I used this power and it was the shield that did damage while moving , I did it from the beginning, without improving anything). Sorry for my english

[topaz aspen]

the shield normally is immobile and blocks damage, you picked up the core that converts it into a large rectangle projectile, hope that helps

[tulip steppe]

its in a new page in your inventory

they get auto equipped when you pick them up with a empty slot

[violet shadow]

This is very well rolled Illlusion? Yes?

[tulip steppe]

its just ok

would never have upgraded it

[thorn robin]

Currently getting Gunfire Reborn on a USB!

[thorn robin]

Downloading NEW UPDATE!

[thorn robin]

Come on!

[regal crag]

ok?

[thorn robin]

And it installed.

[ancient cradle]

has anyone else found the flower is just insanely op?

seems to do way too much dmg

[carmine ermine]

If something is insanely OP, it's par for the course nowadays.

[ancient cradle]

fair enough

[severe cape]

Does anybody know what the destiny mechanism scales off of? is it only with the power cells that you receive or does it go with like weapon/skills or anything?

[heavy bridge]

the game really wanted to stop cursing me