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#Steam 2
quick tree
trim swan
Truly funny
pliant oracle
i won a run with that mfer and still couldn't tell you what tf an astrohouse is
shell patrol
That's because he's overpowered.
when everything is overpowered, good things are bad and being broken is normal
magic geyser
LMAO
this work so well
paranomality and fresh and bones XD
jackpot
I just
oneshot everything
except the flying saucer
well also the boss
Just use a rainbow and it make everything disappear xD
raw merlin
Veteran is irresistible bait to me
storm haven
hold fire key on funny lanterns and afk for an hour
raw merlin
does that god spot farm still work? I thought for sure the pathing would have been fixed by now
stoic garnet
Question: A friend mine sometimes has bad connections. Do they have to host to progress or can someone else host and progress them past Nightmare?
silent magnet
What even is painkiller
versed fox
reincarnation blessing
makes elemental effects applied to you have a positive effect instead, and triggers every other elemental effect on an enemy when one is triggered
including fusions
tulip steppe
@tight bridge
shell patrol
Question: A friend mine sometimes has bad connections. Do they have to host to p...
someone else can host
you can also let htme skip all difficulties by doing a reincarnation 9 run
this is a bad idea
it is however doable
stoic garnet
Thank you! Appreciate the info!
gaunt fog
someone to play?
alpine oar
also yes why not in one run 🙂
fast parrot
we have peaked
Can i ask how
somber summit
Owl
shell patrol
@tulip steppe you should do a 1k RP100s thunderstorm with normal AAs
spice forum
Ahh you mean the random bonus from Bet it all
shell patrol
mainly from Bet it All
bet it all only adds lucky shot and base dmg tho, no?
or what are the options for the random bonus
sick reef
Hello
shell patrol
@storm haven should i go mad with repeatinf attempts of dual wild hunt dog or should i do a boundless run to look for good wild hunts
storm haven
wep farm
storm haven
endless a good wep can push you for 5-10 stages more
shell patrol
@storm haven how does a wild hunt with:
+65% elemental effect chance
+1.2% base dmg for each projectile hit
when firing at an enemy within 5m, +80% lucky shot chance
+100% accuracy +100% eff range
+80% stability +80% accuracy
sound
storm haven
sounds good
shell patrol
on another one replace the when firing at an enemy within 5m, with convert to fire dmg if i can manage it
storm haven
does accuracy help in tighter spread
shell patrol
i need conversion on at least one
storm haven
i need conversion on at least one
just spritual link
storm haven
i would say 80 lucky chance aint that good
shell patrol
fire conversion on one, corrosion conversion on another
tho then breaking gluttony shield will uh
not be fun
storm haven
what 4 blessings are you looking to use
shell patrol
counterviolence, painkiller, occult booster, copycat
storm haven
bro u have painkiller why care about converisons
shell patrol
replace occult booster with weapon genius if i can get all the scrolls i want enhanced soon enough
shell patrol
bro u have painkiller why care about converisons
2s cooldown to inflict all
storm haven
just have any element conversion
shell patrol
i want to proc combustion a million times
storm haven
nvm im using thunder storm usually lol
that shit hits a whole room
multiple times so the 2cd i kinda forgor about it
shell patrol
how do you hit the whole ass room with a thunderstorm
storm haven
longling moment
shell patrol
ah
storm haven
increased arc inscription
round thunder
I get it game lei luo is a shock character
shell patrol
I get it game lei luo is a shock character
LMFAOOO
granite brook
what is the longest endless dream level someone has reached?
carmine ermine
Ended on? About 1000.
Currently doing? 5000+.
granite brook
oh wow
regal crag
Ended on? About 1000.
Currently doing? 5000+.
lemme guess paranormality penetration bullet with 100% crit somehow?
carmine ermine
Dunno, probably.
raw merlin
Deadly Counter and Airbag to proc constant crits I'd wager
shell patrol
Deadly Counter and Airbag to proc constant crits I'd wager
bloody ammo :p
airbag can do it too?
fast parrot
airbag cant
fast parrot
also enhanced deadly curse can't too
fast parrot
what ?
shell patrol
bloody ammo
shell patrol
flowing time = -1s all cooldowns when you get hit (cd 2s)
shell patrol
oh
somber summit
LMFAO
sick reef
Hello
fast parrot
pliant oracle
okay dog's really fun.
i don't think that build was especially strong but i did get to blast everything with two tiger cannons
okay let's attempt bird victory!
i have no idea what bird does
carmine ermine
Birb is highly aggressive close range stuff.
He's also the hero with the lowest chance of becoming absurdly powerful and one-shotting everything.
fresh breach
yo
uhhh
what character is best with the new saw blade
turtle or bird
its just so weird its not like a shotgun or sword
carmine ermine
Birb probably, since he has ascensions that actually encourage use of weapons.
But overall, pretty much no one has genuine specialization towards it.
Bunny possibly comes the closest, thinking about it. High RoF and she gets movement speed and shield recharge on quick kills.
pliant oracle
elite spearman is dangerous.
pliant oracle
ahhh fuck this noise im just gonna play turtle instead
pliant oracle
...wow playing multiplayer actually makes the game a lot harder huh.
like not being able to just HAVE Overconsumption no matter what
carmine ermine
And then you realize that infinite revive chaining trumps stat boosts.
pliant oracle
right but like. not if you are playing with somebody who doesn't have their skill tree maxed out and thus takes a long time to pick you up
carmine ermine
They still get to pick you up.
As much as needed.
With virtually no limit if you're quick or resourceful enough.
carmine ermine
Ah, they don't yet have The Revive Talents™️
Which is strange, given you're talking about Reincarnation difficulty.
shell patrol
Which is strange, given you're talking about Reincarnation difficulty.
my friend is on reincarnation at 40 talent level
fast parrot
How about using Nona. 
carmine ermine
Unless you pick The Bandaid™️.
stone yew
Is there a best inscription for explosives? I'm playing dog currently and found a pretty good Justice, only thing I can think of is magazine share I guess. Don't play dog that often
pliant oracle
okay i think i figured bird out a little
you ignore the melee attack completely, take all the stuff that makes shotguns good
and all the defensive kick stuff to restore your armor with
and then get a fuckin magazine share gemini inscription on your illusion or hell or wild hunt or whatever and just go ape shit
its kinda fun honestly
shell patrol
Unless you pick The Bandaid™️.
the what now
carmine ermine
Blessings that fix major issues with heroes that you'd otherwise have to work around.
shell patrol
Is there a best inscription for explosives? I'm playing dog currently and found ...
either multi-explosion inscription (not a fan of it on justice) or elemental advantage share (i recommend a corrosion weapon as secondary, e.g. prism, poisonous ghost, or aura of venom)
carmine ermine
In this case, Pair of Us fixing the possibility that Iron Wing could die.
shell patrol
Blessings that fix major issues with heroes that you'd otherwise have to work ar...
i mean, pair of us still lets iron wing die if youre knocked down
storm haven
Is there a best inscription for explosives? I'm playing dog currently and found ...
+65% total dmg when attacking enemies under elemental effect, pretty nifty for justice
shell patrol
one too many pyro lanterns and then its gg
shell patrol
+65% total dmg when attacking enemies under elemental effect, pretty nifty for j...
ehh
remember the Judge? :p
storm haven
Someone said lanterns!!????!?!? 
Annnnd a lot of projectiles
For the justice there’s the uhhhh
I forgot
The one that adds projectiles but lowers AOE
shell patrol
@stone yew the pinnacle of justice is having a Multiple Justice with shoot out 3 projectiles, +1 projectile, double projectiles when hitting two enemies in one shot, +0.2 projectiles for each kill until reload and an inscription of your choice
shell patrol
The one that adds projectiles but lowers AOE
the shoot out 3 bombs inscription
it also lowers base damage
not rlly an issue thp
storm haven
Frfr
pliant oracle
justice is really fun
i love how many of the weapons in this game are just silly little critters you carry around
shell patrol
@storm haven i did a sorta speedrun (19min 13s) with basically just a fire tower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXReZnHLwHM
lost so much time on ichty and gluttony tho
storm haven
All my homies hate gluttony
shell patrol
All my homies hate gluttony
fr
gluttony mid as FUCK
i got super lucky with a good fire tower xd
storm haven
Idk why they added him to rotation 😭😭
shell patrol
lol
stone yew
<@411966534446219275> the pinnacle of justice is having a Multiple Justice with ...
Oh true elemental share would be pretty good, I do have the 3 bombs exclusive
shell patrol
Oh true elemental share would be pretty good, I do have the 3 bombs exclusive
not bad
stone yew
Wait thunder step on dog basically perma imprisons when dealing damage with dual wield, that's kinda nutty
shell patrol
it doesnt, but close to it\
edgy lodge
flowing time = -1s all cooldowns when you get hit (cd 2s)
Pretty sure it's also when you hit them
I think it's both
But definitely when you hit them
edgy lodge
gluttony mid as FUCK
Gluttony was much better in Spiritual Assault
Why did they change it in Adventure? Idk
In spiritual assault, he has just 3 phasez
Phases*
shell patrol
Pretty sure it's also when you hit them
yeah i found out later
shell patrol
Gluttony was much better in Spiritual Assault
ye gluttony mid as fuck
never tried SA tho
shell patrol
well, tried once but didnt get far
carmine ermine
Why did they change it in Adventure? Idk
I assume they haven't changed him at all. Likely you're playing on Mysterious Jokul and/or Reincarnation 9 which buffs the act 4 boss.
carmine ermine
Theoretically.
edgy lodge
I assume they haven't changed him at all. Likely you're playing on Mysterious Jo...
hm probs
he is definitely different in SA
carmine ermine
Either that or it's a dev oversight and it should buff him anyway.
edgy lodge
Only has 3 phases in SA
I don't mind buffs to bosses, but another phase just to force his ultimate is a little lame
I literally roll my eyes when the Jokul boss is big fat purple man
shell patrol
invincibility phases are stupid
also the ship has dumbass hitboxes
like
holy fuck
hitting the cannons is annoying as all hell
lets fucking gooooo
im verified
tecjnically im wr for nona r9 :3
but not r8+
raw merlin
also, I've never bothered trying it, is that "homing shots after 5 kills" inscription worth chasing after over the stability increase?
edgy lodge
That inscription is pretty silly
raw merlin
in my experience with trying to focus on using the AA, without a stability increase, trying to maintain a killstreak with it is like trying to kill a mosquito with a water pistol
you swear you ought to be hitting it, but it just keeps dancing away and wearing you down into insanity
shell patrol
it's not *bad* is it?
pretty damn goo
d
@edgy lodge the ice cream is on fire https://youtu.be/kXReZnHLwHM
fast parrot
The POV killed my eyes.
shell patrol
ngl i thought elite was gonna be a difficulty where all enemies were gonna be elites
i guess not
trim swan
tecjnically im wr for nona r9 :3
Well R9 isn't a category aaaand I could probably beat that time tbh
But nice
shell patrol
Well R9 isn't a category aaaand I could probably beat that time tbh
r8+ technically is but r9 should be separate imo
as all r8+ runs are r8
trim swan
cuz it's just easier
round thunder
what the fuck do you do against elite arsonists as random spawn on RE9?
carmine ermine
Either have a plan, have an OP build already, or get obliterated.
round thunder
Either have a plan, have an OP build already, or get obliterated.
well what plan?
I was lei luo with corrosion enthusiast and corrosion shard and it's still not enough to circle camp them around the room while you take out other enemies.
round thunder
height advantages are quite rare in the early stages of anxi desert and staying on them without getting sniped by one of the tacticians is kinda impossible.
Also doesn't the beam just ignore walls?
carmine ermine
No.
Also if you've got a height advantage, you murder everything that can force you out of it.
round thunder
yeah well hard to kill people at range when you have a demonlore :I
somber summit
press E to delete
shell patrol
cuz it's just easier
yea
round thunder
not if you didn't get anything to increase the thunder damage
round thunder
Also yeah this is just me being salty but how the fuck does this hit me?
The beam is no where close to me
shell patrol
hitboxes my beloved
round thunder
well that's just bullshit
somber summit
Also yeah this is just me being salty but how the fuck does this hit me?
The bea...
probably you gave him some funky scroll that either boosts his attack speed or gives him a extra DoT or AoE attack
round thunder
probably you gave him some funky scroll that either boosts his attack speed or g...
They only have curses and airbag
somber summit
then idk
round thunder
well bad hitboxes is the only explanation
somber summit
yummy hitboxes
storm haven
what the fuck do you do against elite arsonists as random spawn on RE9?
Spore
Take any thunder storm you see
round thunder
Holy shit it's even worse!
I went through it frame by frame. This is the exact frame I got hit.
The flamethrower isn't even active yet. Who made those hitboxes???
round thunder
"Hey there's this enemy that deals massive damage, is fast, has absurdly big and bugged hitboxes which makes him a priority target you MUST take out first.
Let's give him damage reduction so you can't do that anymore eliminating almost all counterplay outside of 'just be op'"
somber summit
Holy shit it's even worse!
I went through it frame by frame. This is the exact f...
bloody ammo?
oh nvm ur ammo is at 38
round thunder
yeah
carmine ermine
"Hey there's this enemy that deals massive damage, is fast, has absurdly big and...
Theoretically the idea is you target his barrel instead.
round thunder
oh nvm ur ammo is at 38
in fact enhanced skateboarder is active. I consume no ammo at all
carmine ermine
Because there's the possibility that only hitting the arsonist himself results in reduced damage.
shell patrol
"Hey there's this enemy that deals massive damage, is fast, has absurdly big and...
the pengins:
ANYWAY
did you know
you can get 20%hp/s healing
from one blessing
round thunder
Theoretically the idea is you target his barrel instead.
Tbh if it's just one of em you could somewhat realistically do that but with two of them they are just so big that they cover each other's barrels so much.
And there's other enemies still
not like they like turning their backs to you
round thunder
Holy shit it's even worse!
I went through it frame by frame. This is the exact f...
but srs I'll submit this as a bug cause this is just an egregiously incorrect hitbox
goood start
shell patrol
I have 19 minutes on timer endless
kill
round thunder
Okay so I looked at it again and I think what is happening is that at the very start of the Arsonist's attack a bugged hitbox that hits everywhere in front of him exist for just a single frame.
fiery heart
what are the strongest inscriptions for the brick?
raw merlin
considering that the brick can be tap fired with no reload animation, rate of fire actually works really well on it
shell patrol
nona is really good with her reloading empty mag ascension
for brick, fire tower, some pistols, some bows etc
raw merlin
ideal Poisonous Ghost for me probably looks like:
- Weapon skill deals +45% damage for each enemy it passes through
- +65% damage versus any elemental effect
- 50% multihit chance against a single enemy
- +50% damage versus enemy in decay effect
- +25% Attack Speed
and then elemental effect/weapon element share gemini with fire weapon
shell patrol
sounds fun
raw merlin
shaving off all lucky shot inscriptions because for a Re9 run, enhanced evil devouring sword and every cursed scroll gives you more than enough to max that out
raw merlin
does enhanced casual gunmanship do anything for melee weapons and launchers that can't do crit damage by default?
shell patrol
it does
raw merlin
so what you're telling me is that with Hang Time Trick, Counter Violence, and enhanced casual gunmanship, a melee weapon has three seperate chances to crit in one hit
...they don't stack right?
shell patrol
so what you're telling me is that with Hang Time Trick, Counter Violence, and en...
nope
i mean
ye
they dont stakc iirc
but like
deadly counter and bloody ammo
quick tree
nobody is in matchmaking 😦
shell patrol
nobody is in matchmaking 😦
dont play matchmaking
you can play a few w me rn, am messing round
shell patrol
well matchmaking is where the fun is at
play with friends or people here
matchmaking sucks
shell patrol
and?
whats wrong with melee
also he has a fucking SHIELD
it ignores all damage
from the front
quick tree
well I mean, ranged is always superior to melee
thin epoch
Is it safe to assume season won't end this month? I won't have a lot of time to grind for the weapon skin
spice forum
A) its about quarterly time so 2-3 MONTHS
B) you will be able to get the rewards later
Right NOW is only if you want to do it via quests
of which the last reward is 100% soloable
round thunder
Lol
shell patrol
well I mean, ranged is always superior to melee
you can kill bosses in 3 hits
carmine ermine
You can do that with pretty much anything.
quick tree
yup
shell patrol
You can do that with pretty much anything.
not in first act
trim swan
I haven't played a sniper build in a while
tulip steppe
Rainbow arch 1 shot moment
trim swan
not in first act
You can one shot the boss with a few things in the first act lol
quick tree
thunder storm rules
shell patrol
You can one shot the boss with a few things in the first act lol
i mean yea but fire tower is the one that does it the easiest
doesnt need much setup
raw merlin
Lu Wu when he gets downed with one brick to the head
shell patrol
Lu Wu when he gets downed with one brick to the head
Bricked Up
carmine ermine
> Be a massive ancient creature who has been guarding these forgotten tombs for centuries.
> You've trained for years, honing your proficiency in close quarters combat, and even dabbled into alchemy and artifice to protect yourself and fire lasers at any foe foolish enough to intrude.
> Some dumb cat makes a mess of the tombs you've been guarding. Time to straighten them out.
> In the first moments of battle they toss a dumb piece of masonry towards you.
> You chuckle internally. Like that's going to do anything.
> You are taken out immediately. As you fall to the ground, you watch as the cat looks at the most precious scroll you had in your possession, say "Ew, Deflection Shield" and turn it into copper before leaving.
shell patrol
enhanced deflection shield is fire af
unenhanced... depends on the weapon but can be good
but lol
shell patrol
\> Be a massive ancient creature who has been guarding these forgotten tombs for...
> Be a giant ancient stone creature who guards the exit of the tombs
> You posses all-powerful lasers, meteors and can kill anything with your slam
> Some annoying turtle turns the tombs into complete and utter ruins. Time to kill.
> In the first moments of the battle they take a hot metal pipe into their hands
> You think "That's not going to do anything"
> Die
> "Ew, Deadly Curse"
raw merlin
not even going to acknowledge the fact that you're perfectly capable of hitting the guy while being nowhere near him because there's an invisible wall preventing you from going right up to its body
How it FEELS to play Demoknight TF2
edgy lodge
you can kill bosses in 3 hits
You can kill things in 1 hit 
shell patrol
yes but firey ice cream 3 shot is funnier
raw merlin
"The sharpness of my blade is such that its edge turns the very air around you unto a knifes edge"
is using the fire tower
shell patrol
fire ice cream too funny
shell patrol
yo what if turtle had a synergy with lightning
like cmon
its WATER
i want my flowing light to shock shit to death
edgy lodge
My current pfp is the visual presentation of what happens when you lick it
shell patrol
My current pfp is the visual presentation of what happens when you lick it
yum yum
fast parrot
Just looked into my static. 33% using Cloud Weaver
raw merlin
yo what if turtle had a synergy with lightning
wouldn't that electrocute himself then?
shell patrol
anyway turtle is the only character that makes me want to make a skill build
shell patrol
wouldn't that electrocute *himself* then?
obviously
some self damage
but
horribly high lightning damage to enemies
shell patrol
Just looked into my static. 33% using Cloud Weaver
the clouds are NOT weaving
edgy lodge
Crown Prince is the only character that makes me wanna nuke things
Wait
MONKEY
edgy lodge
the clouds are NOT weaving
Lies, yes they are
raw merlin
anyway turtle is the only character that makes me want to make a skill build
fox and rabbit in shambles
shell patrol
crown prince is so stupid i love it
edgy lodge
crown prince is so stupid i love it
He is smart you meanie
shell patrol
and tank a god
raw merlin
Crown Prince is a certified war criminal
shell patrol
crown prince is a certified mustard gas user 🔥
edgy lodge
Crown Prince is a certified war criminal
He's responsible for chemical warfare
raw merlin
"generally speaking, putting someone through the periodic table is a big no no"
- a bumbly fumbly dude
edgy lodge
There are some things I can say about Crown Prince that will most surely get me banned so I won't
shell patrol
WHAT
edgy lodge
We all know Ao Bai was at the Vietnam war
edgy lodge
Vietnam is a cool place tho
raw merlin
I wonder what it says about me that the first things that come to mind when I think Vietnam is Pho and Bahn Mi
shell patrol
crown prince top 10 war crimes
10. energy orb
9. fire
8. combustion
7. manipulation
6. lightning
5. painkiller (illegal ones)
4. miasma
3. elemental orb
2. elemental rage (unnecessary suffering)
- mustard gas bombs
discord what the fuck
why is it counting up
raw merlin
where do we even begin to rate how Aciodominance makes every crit a smoke bomb explosion?
shell patrol
top 0
edgy lodge
Gunfire reborn but for every war crime each character is capable of committing, a cursed scroll is given at the start of the game
(Nona is not as innocent as you think)
shell patrol
We all know Ao Bai was at the Vietnam war
remove the i and replace the nam with a eran in vietnam and you get veteran
coincidence? i think not
raw merlin
if you attached a Rainbow marker to a mobs head with Aciodominance going, I feel like that's essentially turning that mobs head into a continuous mustard gas pustule you pop at the speed of laser
raw merlin
that is so many levels of Effed I don't even know how to express it
shell patrol
(Nona is not as innocent as you think)
i LOVE intercontinental ballistic missiles
raw merlin
ICBM? more like ICDM (Intercontinental Death Match)
shell patrol
death match? like the quake?
i love deathmatch
best gamemode
i love killing shit
edgy lodge
If Nona can make a wooden mech capable of taking down monstrosities piloted by a chicken with wings for arms, she can surely make a M. O. A. B
raw merlin
If Nona can make a wooden mech capable of taking down monstrosities piloted by a...
that is some Kids Next Door levels of wood and chewed up bubble gum tech
edgy lodge
Hey Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today!
edgy lodge
Nona
edgy lodge
Nona is capable of ending the world ngl
shell patrol
Nona is capable of ending the world ngl
I LOVE NUKES AND MISISLES AND MECHS
yo guys i think armored core 6 was made by nona
edgy lodge
Probably
edgy lodge
I LOVE NUKES AND MISISLES AND MECHS
shell patrol
i love how nona's primary
is literally
"STAND BY FOR TITANFALL"
this is why strike mode is 10x better than fire mode
edgy lodge
shell patrol
Nona when she's all grown up
are you sure she isnt
edgy lodge
are you sure she isnt
Nona is a small innocent panda, but when she grows up, the world will suffer
edgy lodge
she made a wooden mech for a chicken that has no hands
which it can either easily control and destroy, or it is on auto pilot and the chicken is there to merely mask her intelligencee
shell patrol
as i said
the "small and innocent" part is a facade
she is actually building a fleet of nukes
@edgy lodge what if nona had a glock 17
edgy lodge
<@814225447369310258> what if nona had a glock 17
she dont need that lol
shell patrol
she dont need that lol
ok but
pistols
n shit
kinda cool
nona with a glock 17 would be mass destruction
anyway time to die repeatedly in a turtle run again
till i get da paranormality 🔥
edgy lodge
nona needs an RPG
shell patrol
nona needs an RPG
can an rpg be built to launch icbms
@edgy lodge wanna play gunfire btw
edgy lodge
cant bc I am in call
somber summit
nona needs an RPG
doesnt she have one already?
shell patrol
cant bc I am in call
a ok ping me when you down
am free almost all day today
sick so off school
edgy lodge
doesnt she have one already?
idk knowing her she probably has an arsenal of firearms stored somewhere
carmine ermine
Her secondary skill is literally a shoulder-mounted rocket launcher.
She's got one.
somber summit
if thats not good enough just grab a tigercannon
shell patrol
imagine if thunderstorm was still a pistol
storm haven
Thunderstorm with the rof of a smg when
shell patrol
Thunderstorm with the rof of a smg when
do iy
carmine ermine
imagine if thunderstorm was still a pistol
Then you probably wouldn't use it. Because it would still be its old non-super-zappy version.
shell patrol
Then you probably wouldn't use it. Because it would still be its old non-super-z...
aw
yknow whats sad
theres no fire shotgun
carmine ermine
It would probably be the worst shotgun in the game.
If its stats or gimmicks didn't keep it standing.
shell patrol
It would probably be the worst shotgun in the game.
why tho
it would be
🔥
literally
carmine ermine
Burning: Only cares about the highest hit. Would do worthless damage.
Fusions: Manipulation only needs 1 trigger to work. Combustion is capped to a single trigger per shot.
As said, its stats and gimmicks would be the only reason it wouldn't suck.
shell patrol
hm fair
illusion should be fire though imo
it certainly looks like a fire shotgun
shell patrol
Burning: Only cares about the highest hit. Would do worthless damage.
Fusions: M...
what if the weapon's gimmick is that burning is inflicted for total shot damage?
:)
carmine ermine
Would be more useful, but equally worthless in the long run.
Burning is nothing in the grant scheme of things.
carmine ermine
As a stat.
carmine ermine
But if its damage sucks or it's hard to use, that +50% isn't going to mean much.
shell patrol
But if its damage sucks or it's hard to use, that +50% isn't going to mean much.
true
carmine ermine
does penetration bullet inflict elemental effects direcrly onto health?
No.
raw merlin
all enemies have flesh
how much does the 1 point of flesh health really matter for some of the amoured enemies though
shell patrol
fair
carmine ermine
Alot, because it's the only thing you need to hit with your Penetration Bullet.
quick tree
i need to try the tiger I guess
but sniper rifles sounds not fun though =/
tried the pink furry girl - kinda meh =/
owl is the best so far
carmine ermine
DLC privileges.
edgy lodge
getting Acidominance III at longling tomb is like the best feeling ever
edgy lodge
This start is golden
4 jades at longling tomb, about to get 7 ascensions, acidominance 3
shell patrol
holy fuck
raw merlin
ditto
carmine ermine
Congrats, you won. Time to start a new run, because that one's a forgone conclusion.
round thunder
How does primary skill cooldown reduction affect LI?
fast parrot
Nothing
edgy lodge
How does primary skill cooldown reduction affect LI?
it doesn't
round thunder
it doesn't
wack
quick tree
nobody on again 😦
round thunder
🔥 
round thunder
Wait why did they change the magazine gemini?
It's just worse now.
tulip steppe
its for fast hitting weapons
fast parrot
oof what
tulip steppe
🤷♂️
quick tree
oof 273 minutes and 64 stages
fast parrot
Looking normal to me.
pliant pivot
Ooo I see. Noice, we should play sometime. There's so much new stuff, I feel like a noob again XD
Yooo Cryo, nice to see you still play too 😄
somber summit
Ooo I see. Noice, we should play sometime. There's so much new stuff, I feel lik...
there is no being noob in this game anymore, once you reached reincarnation its all joever
pliant pivot
there is no being noob in this game anymore, once you reached reincarnation its ...
I've been piledriving through R9 runs with porqupine dash build XD I feel like it won't hold up as well in endless or boundless tho
raw merlin
I've been piledriving through R9 runs with porqupine dash build XD I feel like i...
Properly kitted out Wild Hunt (i.e. with the stability incscription at least) works exponentially better
pliant pivot
My other favorite build to run was sniper tiger, is that still relevant?
carmine ermine
Not really.
Skill builds usually end up killing more things faster, and snipers are too slow for endless/boundless.
pliant pivot
Did they make it so skill builds now scale over time? Cuz you can't really craftsman your skills right
pliant pivot
I get what u mean about the sniper tho
pliant pivot
They just gave them absurdly overpowered buffs.
ah, makes sense. I was doing 1 million damage per dash in end game.
somber summit
it still works but its slow, most things in the metah are aoe and self targeting things
somber summit
ah, makes sense. I was doing 1 million damage per dash in end game.
rookie numbers these days xD
power creep is real
pliant pivot
XDD figures
somber summit
even glimmering and frenzied shark are useable now
carmine ermine
Not because they're good weapons, mind you.
Because players are just so powerful it doesn't matter.
pliant pivot
I loved the mechanics of glimmering, glad it's usable if ur stupid strong now
Is there a scroll limit now or with endless can you technically breakfast yourself in isaac terms?
carmine ermine
No scroll limit unless you're playing on Endless Journey.
And for anyone who doesn't want the limit, Boundless Dream exists instead.
carmine ermine
And no, you can't breakfast yourself either.
pliant pivot
What happens if u get every scroll in boundless mode?
carmine ermine
You just get every scroll.
Once you reach enough scrolls held, the game throws all scrolls at you once more, instead of just the ones you don't have.
That merely slows you down, however.
pliant pivot
So you just cant pick them up anymore
carmine ermine
Yep.
pliant pivot
Fair enough
carmine ermine
You can recycle them for a stackable buff instead.
So even when you've got nothing more to gain, you can still gain more.
carmine ermine
Same thing with ascensions.
You can get them all. No more build diversity. You just have everything.
tulip steppe
What was the highest RoF someone got on their weapon with the bunny bug?
(teas illusion not included)
shell patrol
What was the highest RoF someone got on their weapon with the bunny bug?
like 6k on a rainbow iirc? not sure
i saw that here
tulip steppe
i think someone said 12k, but never saw a photo 🤷♂️
shell patrol
is the bug related to sword mastery?
ye
storm haven
yeah had that rof with sword mastery lmao
idk how it bugs out but bigger number is good make brain go dopamine
edgy lodge
Illusion was fucking funny with the glitch
storm haven
Illusion was fucking funny with the glitch
how much rof you got?
edgy lodge
rubberbanded the hsit out of the game
storm haven
to the point walter said not to include your illusion 😭
edgy lodge
how much rof you got?
RoF seemed to cap at 2.5k
storm haven
hell yeah
shell patrol
RoF seemed to cap at 2.5k
with infinimag thats a lot more probs
also jesus fucking christ
edgy lodge
with infinimag thats a lot more probs
I was shooting infinitely
storm haven
if im lu wu i will just let you pass to the next stage bro dont shoot me with that
edgy lodge
but the actual weapon RoF capped at roughly 2k-2.5k
I didnt notice really any difference in RoF after that point
shell patrol
rounds per 100s takes into account reload time
shell patrol
if im lu wu i will just let you pass to the next stage bro dont shoot me with th...
fr
shell patrol
i wonder how much rps would that be
edgy lodge
2.5K
edgy lodge
that was when I noticed there wasnt much difference
shell patrol
what the fuck
edgy lodge
Fire Tower capped in RoF so quick
edgy lodge
Justice got rinsed
this boi goes through endless torture
storm haven
wait so i can theoretically can bug thunder storm rof too
edgy lodge
not really
shell patrol
bug got fixed
storm haven
edgy lodge
Thunder Storm charge time has nothing to do with RoF
you can enter and exit charge time quicker
but doesn't hugely impact the RoF to that scale
it would lock itself to the initial charge time
shell patrol
@edgy lodge that illusion does 56625 hits per second with fobp and elemag
shell patrol
Thunder Storm charge time has nothing to do with RoF
it does actually
storm haven
zamn my dream of rapid fire thunder storm will have to wait
shell patrol
charge time shortened by rof
edgy lodge
I never noticed any difference myself personally
shell patrol
i have
storm haven
<@814225447369310258> that illusion does 56625 hits per second with fobp and ele...
wtf bruh
edgy lodge
so I cannot confirm or deny it
storm haven
alright time to rev up the illusion
edgy lodge
Arsenal Guard execution
storm haven
whats the best inscriptions
shell patrol
Arsenal Guard execution
firing squad
storm haven
need to rock my new skin
shell patrol
also how do you like
edgy lodge
whats the best inscriptions
for what gun?
storm haven
+1.2 base dmg on hit?
storm haven
for what gun?
illusion
edgy lodge
Blud needs Prohectiles +4
edgy lodge
fire weapons like justice and foundry by holding down
no
you can just hold down the button
they are auto
edgy lodge
they are?
shell patrol
is it a tao thing
edgy lodge
no
shell patrol
oh yea foundry is
storm haven
justice is auto bro
shell patrol
justice isnt
storm haven
iirc
edgy lodge
justice is auto my G
shell patrol
it isnt
edgy lodge
It is
edgy lodge
If it aint auto I will personally change my pfp to Squidward Twerking
shell patrol
blud didnt realise
ive been using a justice for 700 endless stages 😭
next thing youre gonna tell me is porcipine is auto
shell patrol
ok phew
shell patrol
blud please tell me you realised Justice is auto
im gonna have to check
storm haven
If it aint auto I will personally change my pfp to Squidward Twerking
brb emailing devs rn to make justice not auto
edgy lodge
brb emailing devs rn to make justice not auto
tulip steppe
+1.2 base dmg on hit?
worst exclusive in the game
that patched fixed the elemental dmg on proc (150%) cap from worst to one of the best, but also added a new worst
the games gotta have one i suppose
tulip steppe
its akin to 8 weapon levels
shell patrol
damn
shell patrol
same with the 40% base dmg -50% acc
what
i thought it increases base damage...
for multipliers...
why do reductions of base damage function properly then?
storm haven
worst exclusive in the game
thanks i thought its still goated :(
shell patrol
these are the only exclusives wild hunt can have
which ones should i aim for if im running inf mag
shell patrol
yes, but i need 3
storm haven
yes, but i need 3
sounds like a 10h boundless run time
shell patrol
no
tulip steppe
and decay
shell patrol
not easy when most weapons have 3
storm haven
+65% dmg vs any elemental
+50% dmg against decay/burning/shock
shell patrol
besides, doesnt matter if i damage cap
tulip steppe
besides, doesnt matter if i damage cap
ye, quite sure nothing would help on shotties then
shell patrol
these are the only exclusives wild hunt can have
ig then 5m +80%, +65% vs elemental, and +1.2% base dmg each hit
tulip steppe
sure
shell patrol
twoshot mag is worthless
tulip steppe
wont you BA at 0 for infinite +200% luck?
shell patrol
and then +80% acc +80% stab and +100% acc + 100% range
shell patrol
wont you BA at 0 for infinite +200% luck?
wha?
infinite +200% luck?
but yes ill BA
and no that dodsnt work
it doesnt take the bonus after its fired once
shell patrol
sad i know
shell patrol
ah
ok it only works if mag capacity is 1
so technically if i had enhanced dormant bullet
tulip steppe
when you get to 60k Extravagant stacks, about how high is:
Stage
Elite Assassin
Dual Edge
Weapon lvl
? (avarage)
shell patrol
when you get to 60k Extravagant stacks, about how high is:
Stage
Elite Assassin
...
in boundless id say stage is:
300ish
elite assassin at about... 500-700 maybe?
dual edge at 10000 ish
weapon level at 300-500
i could be wrong
storm haven
Now that’s what I’m talking about
Wait wtf is that my screenshot
The range didn’t work tho sadly iirc
I wish it did
tulip steppe
i walked back to check stuff and found it
most times when stats go funky it can't really be used
fast parrot
Does owl make that explosion range possible?
storm haven
If it did i will be getting 45 range explosions for 5 times in each shot 🥹
God that will be so funny
storm haven
Ammo extractor stonks
shell patrol
https://i.imgur.com/z5Js81c.png
what
why does
that exist
i just realized
you can get more copper and dual edge stakcs by increasing lone wolf to 4
carmine ermine
One of two reasons it's not actually a downside to pick.
shell patrol
Fun Gunfire Reborn Fact:
melee players get more copper and health than you.
this is fact. you should play melee.
carmine ermine
Fun Gunfire Reborn Fact, ep. 2:
Copper has a low cap (relatively speaking) and health doesn't matter if you murder everything instantly at a distance.
shell patrol
Fun Gunfire Reborn Fact, ep. 3:
extravagant consumption exists. crazy, right?
/j extravagant consumption is a hoax and isnt real do not believe the endless players
shell patrol
What’s that
nothing, it isnt real it doesnt exist do not believe the endless players
it isnt real
novel hare
group hallucination
trim swan
I have zi xiao now
have fun with owl boi
novel hare
I have perished
quick tree
tiger seems to be stronger than zi xiao
silent magnet
What’s the difference between Boundless Dream and Endless Journey? Which one should I use?
carmine ermine
#gunfire-faq message
silent magnet
Which one is better to use?
carmine ermine
Depends on what you prefer.
silent magnet
I want training masters all the time…
carmine ermine
Well luckily for you, neither mode does that!
silent magnet
Oh 😦
raw merlin
the training masters is a seperate add on from endless or boundless
aka you can have them in reincarnation without having to enable endless or boundless
unless you mean having them within the endless/boundless sections of a run, in which case, yeah, no luck there
quick tree
if you enable boundless/endless, then training masters will still appear but only before the endless mode starts
round thunder
Is the damage bonus from fierce enhancement additive or multiplicative to base damage boni such as weapon level?
carmine ermine
Multiplicative.
signal lotus
how do you save the progress of endless so i can still play with my friend while not losing it ? what files do i copy
shell patrol
you don't
steep creek
<@238996493409714176> l bozo lonely loser
._.
fast parrot
earnest minnow
fast parrot
my eyes
round thunder
Anyone know what the formula is that the game uses to list the fire rate in the inventory?
carmine ermine
It's something very close to this formula, but slightly off in some way I'm not certain of.
100 / (1 / RoF + Reload Time / Magazine)
round thunder
Like this, no?
carmine ermine
Pretty much.
round thunder
Pretty much.
It's close but always off by ~1-4%
Damn, I need the exact formula so I can calculate the magnitude of the enhanced boosts of dropped weapons
shell patrol
It's close but always off by ~1-4%
Damn, I need the exact formula so I can calcu...
the enhance boosts are listed by the wiki iirc
including magnitude
round thunder
the enhance boosts are listed by the wiki iirc
the maximum possible ones, yes. But I want to be able to just type in the name and stats on the card of a found weapon and have the excel doc spit out how high the bonus of that particular weapon is.
Like this one for example:
round thunder
the range of them is listed as well
how does that help with figuring out how high the boost of the weapon in my game is?
shell patrol
ok so
take Multiple bonus as an example
wiki lists range as 21-30% more projectiles
you can literally just 1.21-1.3x the dps of your weapon
round thunder
You misunderstand.
Situation:
A multiple weapon drops in my game.
Question:
How high is the projectile increase from the enhancement of that particular weapon?
i know it can be between 21-30% but I want the exact number
i want to know how much %projectile increase did the random enhancement of this particular weapon roll.
and for that you gotta compare it to the base values
which I want to automate with my excel sheet.
But the Agile and Nimble enhancements are difficult because unlike with dmg, crit, mag and element chance, rof&rld speed aren't listed directly but rather hidden in the shots/100s stat.
Hence me needing to calculate that
carmine ermine
Oh here's something that might help you figure out what is wrong about the in-game calculation.
Weapons that shouldn't reload also have a slight deviation, if you didn't already know.
round thunder
hmm
carmine ermine
Most obvious are the melee weapons (not sure about Storm Chaser), which don't even consider their reloads anyway.
round thunder
I already got my sheet set up so I can just hack in the name and it pulls all the relevant stats. Maybe if I try to get an expected vs real reading on all weapons I can figure out what it is
round thunder
Most obvious are the melee weapons (not sure about Storm Chaser), which don't ev...
storm chaser is difficult anyways because the wiki doesn't have the RoF yet.
How'd they figure those out anyways?
round thunder
Oh
carmine ermine
And so it turned out, Fire Tower, Flowing Light and Poisonous Ghost's rounds/100s stat doesn't care about reload time.
Even though the latter 2 still reload.
round thunder
And so it turned out, Fire Tower, Flowing Light and Poisonous Ghost's rounds/100...
So they have a different formula from the rest? 
Who's to say that other weapons with wacky reloads don't either?
that just makes things so complicated
to figure out I mean
carmine ermine
It's easier to find out of the other non-reloading weapons don't, because they actually have a RoF stat in the Armory.
Reason why melee weapons were such a pain to discover is because they didn't.
round thunder
It's easier to find out of the other non-reloading weapons don't, because they a...
oh yeah true I completely forgot it's straight up written in the arsenal lol
carmine ermine
And still don't, if I recall.
round thunder
I can already tell it's going to be a headache to put together a sheet which can deal with all these exceptions
round thunder
I'm collecting data on the expected and actual shots/100s stats and there's so much that seems inconsistent.
Cloud weaver for example seems to actually be calculated with a reload time of 0
round thunder
Well I can say for sure there's plenty of weapons that seem to have a custom formula for their shots/100s
south root
Ok, I can't seem to find the answer to this question anywhere - does element share gemini work with 2 weapons of the same element? Such as double fire tower for 100% burn chance?
round thunder
Ok, I can't seem to find the answer to this question anywhere - does element sha...
Yes.
But the chance to proc an effect would not be chance weapon 1 + chance weapon 2
It would be: 1-[(1-chance weapon 1)*(1-chance weapon 2)]
Because of how probability works.
south root
Thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for
flint gate
came back to this game for the first time in a year
was hoping r9 would make the game fresher again
but its even more stupid than the game was when i stopped playing
except now i cant even attempt to make the game fun with self restriction because almost every choice in the game gives you broken stats
flint gate
i shouldve seen this coming when people suggested nerfs to certain things that were instantly run winning
and the devs were like "we would rather balance things by buffing them"
round thunder
except now i cant even attempt to make the game fun with self restriction becaus...
Personally I find it very easy to loose on re9
flint gate
Personally I find it very easy to loose on re9<:sadthumbsup:782335391280660552>
how is this even possible
even with R9, MJ, and 2 player Lone Wolf with Peculiar Chest is win 90% of the time
round thunder
how is this even possible
when that 30% damage resistance elite arsonist that is faster than you can run and dash, walks up to you and hits you with the bugged instant hitbox triggering a corrosion status effect making it impossible to escape his beam for example
flint gate
the 10% are from getting really bad choices in the first three scenes or so
flint gate
when that 30% damage resistance elite arsonist that is faster than you can run a...
idk at this point you should really have the damage to annihilate any elite in like half a second
round thunder
idk at this point you should really have the damage to annihilate any elite in l...
Not if you play sniper Lei luo and all the game gives you is chain lightning ascensions and rapid fire scrolls
carmine ermine
Extremely bad RNG at the start of a run is the only time the game is actually hard on high difficulties.
And even that can be avoided just by picking some of the "you win" buttons, like Cat Painkiller or Nona.
round thunder
I find RE9 just simply not fun to play because I like to pick spiritual ascensions like ultimate firearm, occult booster or ultimate gambler first and then you're just missing so much damage
carmine ermine
Oh yeah, there's that too. Despite the devs doing balance by buffing everything, everything is still hilariously unbalanced.
somber summit
Instead of 20% its 80%
south root
Probably not an opinion shared by many hardcore players on the discord, but the buff based balancing makes this one of the most fun roguelikes my friends and I have ever played
somber summit
Makes it fun if you dont like challenges
storm haven
been sleeping on elemental pulse
brutally strong especially that upgrade that gives special effects
also i dont need to kill my finger over mashing shift
silent magnet
Is it just me or has the game got much harder recently?
versed fox
just you
south root
It's not so much not liking challenges, it's more that there are countless other games out there that get overly balanced into oblivion, with nerf after nerf after nerf. As if they're looking for a magic formula that makes everything exactly as strong as everything else instead of focusing on what makes their games enjoyable. I can pick up a thousand other games that do that - but this one occupies a niche all its own! It is bonkers, we've never seen anything like it, and we love this game for it. We can't get enough, if I want a strugglebus I'll play darkest dungeon
light meadow
Is it just me or has the game got much harder recently?
eh, 50/50
south root
Plus it needs to be remembered, like with all games - the opinions of the most hardcore who frequent a discord after putting in thousands of hours likely don't reflect how a wider playerbase feels about a game
versed fox
It's not so much not liking challenges, it's more that there are countless other...
it's not even "Wanting a strugglebus"
it's not wanting the hardest difficulty(ies) in the game to keep being diluted by an ever-increasing pool of items, characters, forced modifiers that make the game easier, to the point where its harder to not win, or just be incredibly unlucky
not feeling like you're being listened to at all doesn't help either
south root
What can I say? We love it 🤷🏿♂️ and looking at steam reviews etc it seems most can't get enough! But I will agree that it would be nice for the seasonal uber ascensions to be optional
I love the idea of an increasing pool of items and characters though! That's a great idea!
versed fox
I love the idea of an increasing pool of items and characters though! That's a g...
strawman
south root
?
?
versed fox
?
not wanting the hardest difficulty(ies) in the game ... to the point where its harder to not win
south root
Oh right OK, guess I misread. I would love more items and characters though! Just more of what I love. Like maybe a character who's based around poison moreso than the cat, like the tiger and fox lean so much into their elements. That would be fun!
light meadow
eh, i think liking a game about how difficult can be, its trivial tbh because people can enjoy challenging games and other peorple just want a casual experience in low difficulty, i think GR has a good balance between those players
i mean, is has like 12 different difficulties
versed fox
9, creeping on 10 of those feel the exact same
light meadow
9, creeping on 10 of those feel the exact same
counting normal, elite, nightmare and all reincarnation levels
quick tree
they really really need to add list of multiplayer lobbies to the game
versed fox
counting normal, elite, nightmare and all reincarnation levels
yes
quick tree
current state of matchmaking is so bad, and discord lfg is trash 😦
versed fox
reincarnation 1-9 are all "hold w and press like 1 other button lol" because of stuff like nona, painkiller, overconsumption, bizarre dream, and the devs buffing everything for no reason (except qing lmao)
light meadow
removes secondary skill infinite scaling
fast parrot
die for insanity
versed fox
the game doesnt know what killed me
death
nova loom
I got death for not playing my baby
im sorry gunfire gods, ill go back to my king after
carmine ermine
What can I say? We love it 🤷🏿♂️ and looking at steam reviews etc it seems mos...
"It seems most can't get enough!" Heheh... lol.
The overall positive reviews have gone down over the years. It's still high, but not as high as it once was.
It used to have an overall positive review score of 94%, now it's 93%. The recent reviews are 86%.
If that isn't a clear indication that less people are enjoying having the game become absurdly easy, I don't know what is.
storm haven
i used to read negative reviews and set it to all languages and a lot of them are in chinese which i can understand
lots of dissatisfaction with r9 and/or endless being tough
ivory parrot
Yeah
My gripe with R9 is it doesn't allow anything but metas
Even if you have a strong build, if it sucks earlygame it's pretty much ggs
carmine ermine
The good is too good for late game. The bad is too bad for early game.
ivory parrot
The good is too good for late game. The bad is too bad for early game.
Uh... yes
tulip steppe
can’t say i have any grip with R9 that is different from R8
maybe that Serpent disappears even more for melee builds
not done one in a while but i assume it will feel worse
fast parrot
i dont like that scroll, especially in x-less
edgy lodge
i dont like that scroll, especially in x-less
fast parrot
its the strongest scroll in x-less
but if I already hit dmg cap without it
edgy lodge
Extravagant is goated 
edgy lodge
but if I already hit dmg cap without it
Even if you hit it, you gotta keep increasing to contest the DR
fast parrot
and at max DR
fast parrot
it make my coin like 500 every time i look at it xD
edgy lodge
Because then you can increase all miscellaneous damage lol