#Steam 2
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Yes
i mean afaik the game is 64bit only anyway, why not commit to it?
what do you mean
if i'm not wrong, the game only runs on 64bit machines, so why not make the cap for both damage and health a 64bit integer? it would never be an issue, except for fixing bugs related to other stuff caused by the drastic increase
probably because its coded in 32 bit
i have no clue
probably also because 64 bit interger is uhhhhh..... a lot higher than the 32 bit interger
its not just take 32 bit and times it by 2
9,223,372,036,854,775,807 versus 2,147,483,648
that's the point... cap wouldnt even be REACHABLE
that's... not exactly how it works afaik
why the fuck would you ever want to fight an enemy with anywhere near that much health
... you never would
it's just to prevent it ever capping out
your damage wouldn't cap out either, yknow 😛
theres a guy on stage 5000+ by now in endless
wonder what number theyd be up to in that run
dmg would need to have a cap or else the entire run would be boring
u would 1 shot everything
u already practically do with some builds
.. who is it?
@modest spoke
or 459382843 shot everything, which sounds nicer?
last check in was 4000 few weeks ago
@edgy lodge you uhhh have a competitor
do show
hes aware of him
but then... stage 1000 endless..?
its a drag going that long
Jonwilbert makes sense tbh, he's like one of the best players in the game
getting to round 1000 isnt a skill thing as much as its just grinding out the stages thing
its incredibly repetitive and honestly mind numbing
it is i just do other things like afk runescape on the side to ease the pain
but ye im just over 5k now i took a break because i got bored https://i.imgur.com/sYbfdjP.png
i do not blame you
i come from long zombies runs and i know how boring it can get
except those runs usually reset at 50-60 hours
at least have an excuse to end it lmao
yes, i know
bosses have about 70 billion hp rn, so nowhere near the 64 bit integer cap
and i dont think itll reach anywhere close to that before im done
ill probably finish with ~200 trillion total damage
huh
what
the highest unsigned 32 bit integer is 4.2 billion ish
yea it must use 64 bit
thats funky. they should do it for the damage cap as well then
why did i read an entire discussion from reputable players that the max boss hp is 32 bit
with pics included
was this all an elaborate ruse
truly
it was at one point
@modest spoke are you using nona for it as well?
tao
oh, makes sense
rofl
angelic aura i assume?
rainbow xd
oh yeah fair nuff
miasma go brr
whats the dual edge stacks at
is miasma that insane
visually capped at 65535 but probably around 200k
never saw it do that much damage when ive played... what am i missing?
shoutout spirit feline
wait, is extravagant consumption capped only visually at 60k
that might be hard capped
funky
dual edge might be capped too but my dr keeps goin down so im assuming not
hwats your scrollset?
spirit feline do be cool
he could drop literally every scroll except extravagent consumption and dual edge and im not sure how much would change
he would be dead within 2 seconds 
Hello how yall doin?
400,000% dmg babyyyyy
what ab heavy shield? imo its more useful than lightless
isnt heavy shield the regen on break
i usually drop lightless if i get heavy to not trigger the Sacred Aura link
oh that one
cause its annoying as shit for painkiller
the -10% movement speed and 40% chance to immune dmg
changes to 50% immunity chance enhanced, with no debuff
lightless shield offers 100% immunity
25% for boss
... for 4 shots, every 30 seconds
how often do you get hit?
pretty often, as i go reckless once i have feline and flesh and bones/paranormality
oh yeah also
lightless shield's biggest shortcoming
is that it gets stacks removed when using bloody ammo
and yanno, i like ma always crits
are you confusing bloody ammo with something else
or are you also taking about holding deadly counter
both
bloody ammo triggers deadly counter
i assume you know how that ends up, right?
bloody ammo also breaks lightless shield stacks, making it pretty worthless
then dont take them together
exactly
u need lightless shield if ur DR is as low as his
besides, if you get hit often, heavy shield works better
or heavy shield
there are a ton of ways to get infinite ammo
bloody ammo is the coolest
why do you ping me when its just us two conversing
miasma on bosses (+ some scroll stacks ig) and on saucers
lol dont think ive ever seen an M in the damage before
if you get hit, say, every second, then enhanced lightless shield will block 4 out of 30 hits, enhanced but heavy shield will block 15, on average
holy FUCKING shit what
that is some brutal damage
also why its so boring
no joke
no idea
i speedrun this gamee which was just as pointless
i get bored before stage 200 in boundless, endless is even more restricted soo
except i get a small gold medal next to my name on speedrun.com
anyway do you actually play nona
oh lmfaoo
worth, thatll pay the bills!
every day i ask myself "WHY do i use strike mode instead of fire mode"
funny taunt
nona is fun until she isnt
dat soul essence bank tho
which happens pretty quickly in endless
iron wing revive simulator
no damage simulator
soul essence unironically the slowest part of making them lmfao
now its p easy tbh. you can jusr go into boundless and rack up 15k soul essence no sweat
not exactly
you'd unlock scrolls doing that
he doesnt know pepelaugh
these saves are all very specifically crafted to get certain pulls
you dont just boot up a run on your main save and do this
hm?
either running 4-1/4-2 over and over in normal since theres no unlocks in act 4 (alt f4 to start at campfire again when you reach monarch, old method) or spiritual assault (no unlocks)
i guess you could stand behind a wall and wait for iron wing to do the dirty work ig
but thats BORING
i run nona with melee instead
call me insane
how would you get to act 4 without unlocking stuff though
you do unlock some things but with careful planning you can avoid quite a bit
its a pretty intricate setup
daily challenge doesnt have unlocks either
its the essence method until SA is unlocked
should be easier because of quests now right
quests probably make it a lot easier yea
but most of them would end up unlocking an unwanted scroll so 🙃
hey 150 essence goes a long way when youre searching a red chest
this is essentially the routing i came up with https://i.imgur.com/GSqzymp.png
lots of resetting for all of this to line up
btw why do some endless players not just enhance every scrolls they get?
bro hes at like half a million in dmg amp percent
i mean sure but it gives that satisfaction of your whole scrollset being enhanced
and theres nothing else to do anyways if youre just mindlessly grinding
the point is to get to stage 10k
im sure hes already wasted enough time just doing this as a challenge lol
¯_(ツ)_/¯
no reason to spend more time finding red chests
wait, why not just unlock every scroll and weapon BEFORE the speedrun
so you dont get shit rng
because then your scroll pool is bigger
making odds of hitting scrolls that are actually beneficial lower
fair enough?
never had a run where you get dual edge or extravagent consumption 2 hours in?
its killer
have you ever went 16 hours without seeing merciless combo?
scary
tao normal speedruns are scary
buddy went 2 whole work days without seeing it
legit
nope
how many recycle stacks you got btw
lmao
i wanna try seeing how far i can get with a justice
with uh
stupid amounts of projectiles
somewhere between 6 and 33
why not?
doesnt shoot fast enough
yes, but if it has a buncha projectiles itll proc damagw cap fast enough
as every projectile can do damagecap separately
hm
do you perchance know how projectiles spread when there is more of them? @mellow bear
spread in what way
i mean you can't have 33 projectiles within the exact same position
so would it be say, stacking them vertically before shooting or spread in a fan pattern?
perfect
well uh
i doubt it will be 33
but who knows?
either way its a LOT of them
if i get a good roll
you can get even more explosions with the new gemini as well
so i need to somehow get, at the very least:
+0.2 proj for each shot till reload
+1 proj +100 consumption
+1 projectile when hitting 3 enemies in 1 shot
+? or +1 double projectiles after hitting 2 enemies
+? or +2 launch 3 grenades -40% dmg
- gemini, maxxing out inscriptions
@mellow bear
what do you think are the chances?
low, but not zero
would 100% need masterful craftsmanship
that secures at least 2 exclusives, and a frequent 3rd
enhanced, of course
nothing is likely in a roguelite
but hey, a god roll aint impossible is it?
does justice explode at all tho(
it has no AOE
except lava pool
dog
yes, iirc it does explosive damage
problem is
it has no aoe for the gemini
so idk how additional inscriptions would work
oops, explosions
should i try calculating the odds LOL
@mellow bear
no, def higher
its only 5 specific inscriptions
and ill take one wrong
as long as its say, just +1 proj for 3 enemies
hmm
guess its gonna be an enhanced weapon blessing weapon seeking run
boundless'll do
fun fun
how do i get skins
There is exactly 1 skin in the game at the moment and it's for completing 40/50 quests in Season 1: Arcane Ascensions.
how exactly does the new explosion gemini work
do u hold the bigger aoe and then a smaller aoe in ur offhand
and that makes the gun ur using explode multiple times?
How tf did u get this much soul essence
Also what dlc hero is the best
They were looping for 441 stages. The base run has 16 for the entire thing.
Considering how you seem to have a lot of issues of the skill variety, I'd recommend Nona.
The meat swallowing is insane
I know it's a flawed roguelite, and it's not even my favourite.
I also know that what you're complaining about is nothing.
What does it taste like
I refuse to play rir2 because of my anxiety
You say this buy altanna regularly states his opinions on the current state of the game
“Does not like”
Might be an understatement
finally beat the ship on solo
that fight is actually really fun
Elite unlocked on two consoles now. I didn't know it only goes up to stage three on solo...
Thats a lie
?
Beating act 3 unlocks act 4 on subsequent runs
Ohhhhh
I understand
When I was on console it just took me straight to act 4 but I guess that's because I was doing coop with someone who already beat it
Yeah
I'm still gonna count it as me finishing a run solo for the first time
Nice
3 hours on steam and I'm already higher level than 22h on console
before i go to bed-- what's the best way to farm soul essence? i was an idiot and spent like 500 on metaprogression tree cuz i forgot to buy new characters
Do the hardest difficulty you can clear without using soul essence to revive, or if you've unlocked Reincarnation, do Reincarnation 1 with some overpowered blessing at the start.
Also, spending soul essence on talents is more beneficial, since most talents applies to all heroes.
And it unlocks heroes as you buy more talents anyway.
true
but qian sui is fire
i either cant find it or its gone but can some one direct me to the LFG channel?
#lfg-global #lfg-na
thank you.
441 levels
it caps at 25k
and gold caps at 65k I have learned
wish it didn't
gg dude
<@&715475210219815025> Hi men! ( sorry for tag). Will it be a new lvl or boss?
Becouse your game is number one in mode rogue that I could see. And I would really like more levels to be able to play, and not pass the same levels on a more difficult level of difficulty
boundless dream, if you have reincarnation
racks up stupid amounts of soulessence
Blud has no chill 
I get how you feel mate, I suffer with anxiety stemmed from autism
I can further explain in dms, it'll fill up the chat here
Sure thing :)
Oh boy, buffing Li's Q ability and then using the new season perk to make the corrosion spikes trigger your secondary feels like cheating
So what you're saying is it should get buffed, right?
"We Hear You!" Update
• Li:
[Spiritual Meteor]
Old: +100/200/300% Blazing Meteor Base DMG. Lv.3: Additional +1% Base DMG for every point of max energy.
New: +150/300/450% Blazing Meteor Base DMG, +25/50/100% Blazing Meteor Elemental Effect Chance. Lv.3: Additional +1% Base DMG for every point of max energy.
[Blazing Rain]
Old: When using Blazing Meteor to hit an enemy affected by Burning Effect, 60% chance to cast an additional Blazing Meteor to the enemy within 7m. The chance will decrease significantly when it is triggered repeatedly.
New: When using Blazing Meteor to hit an enemy affected by Burning Effect, 70% chance to cast an additional Blazing Meteor to the enemy within 10m.
[Accurate Crush]
Old: Blazing Meteor deals 200%/50% chance for 200% or 300%/80% chance for 300% or 20% chance for 400% DMG when hitting 1 enemy.
New: Blazing Meteor deals 200%/50% chance for 200% or 300%/80% chance for 300% or 20% chance for 400% DMG and +20/40/80% Total Burning and Combustion DMG when hitting 1 enemy.
• Qing Yan:
[Close Combat]
Old: +40/80/150% DMG against enemies within 7/7/12 meters.
New: +40/80/150% DMG against enemies within 7/7/12 meters, but -40/60/80% Elemental DMG.
• Nona:
[Pair of Us]
Old: Iron Wing will not be knocked down as long as Nona is standing. +1% DMG for each 1 point of HP capacity Iron Wing has.
New: Iron Wing will not be knocked down as long as Nona is standing. +1% DMG for both Nona and Iron Wing each 1 point of Total HP capacity both Nona and Iron Wing have.
I don't see lucky day needing a buff
I SURE DO LOVE A FREE 4600% DMG BOOST
Oops, my mistake.
• Zi Xiao:
[Lucky Day]
Old: +10/15/20% Weapon and Skill DMG for every Normal/Rare/Legendary Astroaspect obtained. Wild Astroaspects grant a random bonus.
New: +30% Weapon and Skill DMG for every card held at once. +10% Weapon and Skill DMG for every card in reserves.
doing that to qing yan is dirty 😭
no melee for his ass
ok but literally making melee worthless on him is brutal
There we go, free 10,000% skill damage right there
I hate how much I know Zi Xiao's system
Not enough it seems.
That's a free 300% weapon/skill damage.
600% with Under Control 3.
You can get up to 999 in reserves
10590% with max reserves.
macros when the:
based, which one tho?
i'm rocking a naga x that recently had to uhhhh
still works tho, so meh
If I use any Bizzare Dream will I still be able to progress normally?
yes
OKAAAAY, tyty
me when I just have programs to use macros instead of paying extra
the mouse is for other things lol
bbb
barbeque bacon burger
next gunfire reborn weapon?
explosive weapon that can bypass the damage cap
Can I right click to eat it
i fucking despise pyro lanterne
lol I won't do this ever again
ITS BUNNY TIMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Now left click and delete the whole screen in 2 seconds


Got divorced twice ditching everything to reroll this
duoyi devs mustve been smoking good crack
Bro
but what's up with justice?
theoretically you could have astronomical amounts of projectiles
like, 33
in practice itll either be somewhere around 7 or 20 i think
im tryna get one that could do that
Bro I got a good idea in jokul we get ICE LANTERNS that explode and freeze you for 2 seconds
In Anxi we will get sand lanterns who explode and slow you down with sand
In Longling the bombers now wear cute lantern hats :)
please die
"AH YES LET ME JUST MAKE AN ENEMY THAT SPAWNS IN HORDES OF 10 THAT ONESHOTS IRON WING"
is this the one? @shell patrol
one moment
.
one of them
It's one of the few R9 things that did its job correctly.
my run is still going, I'll keep an eye out for it
So they probably earned it.
"hey guys yknow those new melee weapons we added? what if, we completely invalidate the playstyle"
@azure mango how long for that scalpel
I’m doing a weapon fun run rn need to prep mentally
honestly,. just a couple hours
Whew
btw you can swap weapond between players i think
which is silly
imo it at least should have its damage halved
like im SORRY but there are 38347 pyro lanterns rushing at me and even one means im dead
oh shiit... you can reroll etches
i just realized
thats so stupid
will try
credits to @storm haven
time to start grinding for it
tbf there are better ways to create difficulty than massive damage, and besides, you can completely invalidate that damage with one scroll
ill try grinding for it too
Good thing they did that with AoE abilties and increased enemy count.
fair nuff but nona has one real aoe ability and it will literally instakill iron wing if it goes into a pyrolantern horde lmao

Mecha Drop + Iron Wing Fire Mode + Hardwood Missile + Suicide Device = 1
is this a bug
im attacking ship rn and its not attacking even once
wow finally it attacked
What does it mean with defeating bear with energy fully charged?
I let the boss throw the sword at the crystal and killed him right after but nope
@shell patrol
got a candidate
+0.2 proj for each shot till reload (rare)
+1 proj +100 consumption (exc)
+1 projectile when hitting 2 enemies in 1 shot (exc)
+? or +1 double projectiles after hitting 2 enemies (rare)
+? or +2 launch 3 grenades -40% dmg (what's the rarity?)
the rarity of the 3 grenades one is exc
so we need 3 exc 1 rare 1 norm
wait no
2 rare 3 exc
and Multiple attribute, but that can be rolled
eh, should be easy enough imo
i wonder if 3 exclusives can be forced
with masterful craftsmanship + whatever is that blessing to enhance weapons
that's what I'm running on currently
do you have masterful craftsmanship tho
ah, okay
well, 3 is common enough
also, iirc the red chest that forces 1 exclusive on weapon adds it on top of masterful craftsmanship
it was blocked after I got 3 exclusives, isn't that the cap?
3 is the cap.
Yes
Want it filled? Get to testing.
You can test that too.
how would i see if it affects it or not
If the AoE gets bigger or smaller and you see more explosions. Easy.
justice has no aoe
only the lava pool
which is hte isuse
Test it anyway.
does it keep the number of exclusives and rares the same? fun
oh wait nvm
you cannot etch after storing it in arsenal right
has to do it in that run
im not sure, but yeah probs
@azure mango i wanna know
commence operation savescum
no, i mean if i reroll a weapon with 3 exclusive inscriptions, will it keep them exclusive
aw
best of luck
scalpelpoint
L
very silly
make it have the Multiple attribute
in between acts
then i exit and dont enter any portal
the idea is i enter jokul stage 1 go to craftsman for that big rng moment if it sucks ass (fuck you craftsman) i just alt tab, task manager and end gunfire
when i load up its gonna be at the inbetween zone again
alt+f4 works just as fine
Daily challenge is such a waste of time
You get more soul essence from a normal run in new adventure and that's only if you win, otherwise nothing of value is gained
did we get an update today?
Morning
gm
How yall doing?
I suck at r9 man
The furthest I reached was only halfway to stage 2 lol
pretty good got scalpel with 3/5 inscriptions that i want
its panda time
have you tried leaning heavy into Lightning Govenor Lei Luo?
thunderbolt spam is quite effective
Just need a good starting weap and pray your starts aren't bs
@dire jolt i am going to make the single most broken justice
as in, a carpet bomber 
ok so i got new info
+0.2 proj for each shot till reload (rare)
+1 proj +100 consumption (exc)
x2 projectile when hitting 2 enemies in 1 shot (exc)
+1 projectiles after hitting 3 enemies in a single shot (rare)
+? or +2 launch 3 grenades -40% dmg (exc)
if we assume launch 3 grenades is additive, this adds up to a total (with Multiple bonus, of course) of: 14.6 projectiles
@carmine ermine if the launch 3 grenades bonus is multiplicative, would it be x3 or x2? if it's x3, then that would be... 43.8 projectiles which doesnt sound right
are scrolls acquired from curiosity box disregard able or is it like effective split? 
Because you already factor the 0.2 per kill wrong
That is a chance to fire an identical shot again
if your weapon fire 3 projectiles per shot and you have 10 kills you fire 6 projectiles per trigger
and Girlboss : Effective is no drop
Box is 1-3 with drop option
Thats the trade off for getting guaranteed 2 scrolls
its +2
at max
also yea its per kill oopsie
oooo this is v close
sigh…
Its lumped into the projectile inscriptions
if you get a weapon with single shot , the +1 projectiles and the 0.2 per kill
base=+1
+2 from 0.2 for each kill till reload
+1 from +100 consumption
+2 from launch 3 grenades
+0.3 from Multiple
x2 total
ypu start with 2 projectiles per shot
then after 10 kills ypur weapon shoots 4 and then at 20 6 shots
...oh shit?
but the cap is 10 stacks, no?
sorry numbers too high
what I mean is 0 , 1 and 2 total for the bonud
#1055550986292297838 message
what
the stages of the bonus
0 : no extra shots/ proj multi
1 : 100 % chance for multi / extra
2 : 200% chance
it doesnt add flat it adds a CHANCE for its effect
200% chance to add 2 projectiles? or 1?
whoops, wrong reply
200 % chance to multipy the base
same as lucky shot 200% just means 2 times the base
ok i just saw the rest of this message
so its fuckin
DOUBLE the projectiles?
Or tripple
but i thought the cap is 10 kills.. huh
wait
how much is 5 times 0.2
whoops
soooo
I think now it clicked
so... let me try the calculation again
base=+1
+1 from +100 consumption
+2 from launch 3 grenades
+0.3 from Multiple
x3 total from 0.2 projectiles per kill
x2 total from double projectiles after hitting 2 enemies in one shot
which is... 4.3 x 6
25.8 projectiles
what the fuck
@spice forum is this right
@storm haven @azure mango
can somone give me a challenge my friend and i can do on R9?
Foundry Only
Enjoy The Game As It Comes challenge
i have accidentaly gaver the enemies heavy shields, and now i cant kill them that fast (was already struggling before)
that is one of the things to never give enemies
thing liek heavy shield, evil banishing talisman, livesaver, triple comeback, lightless shield etc.
I was a dum dum and was loike oh cool scroll, guess i pcik it upo, then i realized it applies to enemies
:0
My friends saw me playing gunfire reborn and shouted "ayo this man's playing a furry game"
get better friends
Am i supposed to be fighting 2 pole Monarchs at once? like one ice looking one and a normal one?
That's like saying pokemon is a furry game because characters are anthropomorphic
A person I know says the exact same thing of "Gunfire Reborn is a furry game"
i call this game a furry game and i play it
I just ignore the insults n such but it's interesting to put that title on someone from a nonfur
Even if it is, nothing wrong with it
Yeah there's nothing wrong with it
You're talking to one
Mhm :)
I'm not exactly a furry myself as mentioned to you before lol
I think furries are really really sweet individuals
Like I said, I'm friends with a lot of furries
if all furries die then we lose a lot of technological advances and we lose some military troops
that first point is a good one

I know it's not the strongest, it's not the majority iirc
But a lot of furries have well paying jobs in some tech industry stuff
Funny
i have two brothers in different military branches, i can assure you maybe a fraction of a percentage of them are furries lol
not a common thing
Yep, not common
The thought of furries in the military though is funny and will get an anti-furry triggered
Anti-furries are those kind of people who just hate for the sake of it lol
What's funnier is that sometimes they become furries themselves
Or they're just trying to impress their fellow 14 year old friends in a discord meme server
I've never hated furries myself personally
Lol
I've never hated them to begin with
If I compare my realization date of when I was a furry to the date I did become a furry
The gap is like 7 years
Dang
I became a furry the moment I was introduced to a game called "Animal Jam" in fourth grade and didn't think anything of it
And then I realized that furries are actually a thing later
Oh cool
HOLY FUCK
closest ill get for now, will keep grinding for da perfect one
@storm haven @mellow bear @azure mango
...
the proj double inscription doesnt even work
this is so stupid
Are you hitting 2 targets in a single shot
yes
either way i only launch 5 projectiles
or am i supposed to hit them with one projectile?
i can send a screen recording if you'd like /shrug
how does Riches Privlages work?
when you deal skill dmg, it will additionally deal the same amount of dmg as the amount of copper you have
oh, so bad?
hell no its not bad
idek, im going monkey right now and was wondeirng if iu should save my gold for it or soend it
i suk at the game, and im new, seems bad to me when the bosses have like millions of hp, and im doing an extra 5k? maybe im not understanding it tho?
you should be gathering scrolls that increase copper gained during the run, so even if you have EC, its still helping out a lot for skill dmg
too much work.... looking for good scrolls
yeah ive tried to but my luck aint to ggod lol
unfortunately the 3 grenade split doesn't get multiplied by the projectile inscriptions, you still only shoot 1 extra bomb to the left and right of the original one even if the middle is shooting like 6
oh. i see
fuck now i have to redo the math AGAIN
ok so
all the projectile inscriptions are additive iirc
so double projectile on hit will add 1
+1 exclusive +2 from rare
also, the +0.2 on each kill until reload is a multiplier as well
it triples projectiles
according to cryorus, at least
and it seems to be true
I know for sure the +0.2 on kill doesn't multiply with +1 exclusive, cause a wep with +0.2 on kill caps at 3 proj and a wep with both caps at 4 (if it starts with 1)
hmm
and my +0.2 justice that I use shoots 3 bombs in middle and 1 on each side (3 spread exclusive)
@spice forum
yeah mine does the same atm
ill see what is possible to do about it
I think the only projectile mod that multiplies is scalpel's double shot setting since it basically just shoots two attacks
Do keep in mind that one hasn't been tested in a loong time.
fair nuff
back to testing and grinding it is
lets see if i can get another one that is closer to perfect
LMAO I JUST ONESHOT THE SERPENT WITH A MECHA DROP
HOW THE FUCK
the thunder arcane is too broken
Got complaints about something? Buff time!
now does +1200% damage with Overcharged Thunder instead of +400%.
I have a complaint about fate thread and arcane shot
altanna writing up patch notes for an apology update again i swear
Crying? That means you're upset about something. I'll apologize with these buffs!
Thunder Step (Arcane) now releases thunderbolts onto 5 enemies per dash, instead of 2.

Also Overcharged Thunder is +1500% DMG instead of the previous +1200%.
This is amazing
what the fuck
*Overcharged Thunder instantly kills any enemy it hits
** Thunderbolts from dashing instantly kills any enemy it hits.
*** Enemies spawning instantly kills them
When enemies die, they also explode into a dazzling firework display, complete with complimentary phrases such as "You rock!" and "You're so good at this game!"
When they die it also adds x1000 times their max HP to your total damage score, so you can get the big number at the end of the run.
Is +0.2 Proj on kill at maximum power?
yes, but that totaled to 3x
oh yeah 4x gone now
mustve been double
wasnt an extra projectile tho so 
So I guess double explosions is now additive after all.
Because "double" the base of 1 is +1.
we'll see if it doubles while i have a +1 projectile +100 consumption
am just grinding for it
If it was multiplicatively doubling it should've been x6.
it depends
Wouldn't matter what other projectile inscription you have, because they're pretty much all additive.
some bonuses, apparently, don't get taken into account
we'll see, gimme an hour or two to roll a good one
anyway
imo the chance of parkour vaults spawning should be doubled
like holy fuck they never spawn lmao
That's because there are barely any of them.
there should be more. shooting enemies all the time is boring
~~You have angered the "it breaks the game flow and I can't do parkour" player mob, and in turn, you have forced the devs to apologize with more buffs.
Elemental Pulses now has 1200 base DMG instead of 600 and 50% elemental effect chance instead of 30%.~~
the game flow of mashing shift and left click, peak
like im sorry im mindlessly grinding endless for a cool weapon i want a break from mashing left click at least for a minute lmao

ngl this game needs a damage rework
damage numbers are astronomical and you need to have either spirit feline or 90% DR to deal with it
which is just stupid and is a horrible way of creating "difficulty"
Normally said horrible way of creating difficulty is compensated by having enough skill to avoid getting hit.
Unfortunately, you're not exactly encouraged to be skilled in this game.
One-shot them before they can even attack is encouraged more.
Usually easier too.
And solves more problems at once.
that would still be a thing- i'm just thinking of halving damage completely, removing spirit feline and capping DR at, say, 70%
you'd still be killed easily, you just wouldn't be completely obliterated by a stray retainer bullet
removing spirit feline and capping DR at, say, 70%
Sounds like nerfs.
We all know how we treat nerfs 'round here. cracks knuckles
I know. There are many many many problems that could be fixed if they just... did nerfs.
it's the fact that any run that wants to survive past duo fjord depends on spirit feline alone that bugs me
But they don't do any nerfs that matter.
yep, unfortunately
if parkour vaults are too hard for the playerbase something went uh
horribly wrong
if enough people complained im sure they would do nerfs, it's just that the majority likes the horribly simple way it is right now
they also don't do any actually important buffs... melee is almost unusable outside of reincarnation and they are doing nothing about it lmao
70% dr cap? That’s literally nothing lol
This game is not meant to be one where you’re being very skillful and maneuvering around enemies to avoid damage
there's also heavy shield, lightless shield, and damage would need to be halved eitherways
If you want to do that, play roboquest
you don't even have to
.
That game is amazing for people that are seeking difficult in that form
the amount of regen and damage immunity scrolls in the game would still allow for a tank build
just not as simple as just picking up spirit feline lmao
This game is meant to be simple tho
Pretty counterintuitive
Myself and many, many others enjoy it because you can turn ur brain off and run around nuking things
yeah uh
issue is
it doesn't even allow going another way
you need the "brainless nuke" scrolls to play it at all lmao
That’s not true
No it isn't.
as enemies will eventually outscale any sort of defense you can get otherwise
in damage
You need to know what hero works well with what weapons that have what inscriptions, what occult scrolls to pick when using what ascensions and blessings for best fighting what enemies that might change priority based on what enhancements they get...
It only looks simple because you can pretty much do "get damage, get immunity of some sort, win".
Im at the point in play where I’m literally picking random blessings scrolls ascensions and weapons to see what does and doesn’t stick cuz I’ve tried most of it all
Because so many buffs to what players get has now allowed that.
And I’m still doing fine in damage and sustain
The game is not meant to be super complicated, unless you make it so
See the post directly above.
too many buffs. way too many
It's only simple because you don't need to go any further to win.
If things were harder, you just might have to use your brain to win.
^
So you’re saying… you don’t need to use your brain?
Yes.
So then it’s a simple game
Because it's been buffed to be that way.
Dont get me wrong, you can get very, VERY detailed
Not because it always was.
not really
But if you just want to beat the game, it’s not overly complicated
??
Homeboy, you’ve seen the setup for Tao endless runs
It’s a multiple hour process just to begin the run
It's only simple because it's piss easy. It's piss easy because players kept getting buffed.
If it wasn't for the buffs, the game wouldn't be piss easy, and therefore wouldn't be simple.
yeah, and what does that process consist of?
If you had played the game 2 years ago, you had to actually do something beyond the simplest things in order to win.
getting spirit feline, dual edge, extravagant consumption and an smg?
- indep fortune
since when does an endless run care about unlocks
That’s literally the meta posted by Jon, who’s currently on stage 5100 with bunny
You were literally there for the entire convo he explained it all
if my memory is not failing me, he was also talking about speedruns
No, he’s talking about setting up Tao runs for endless
#1145862164951879750 message
my ass
That’s an entire different thing
You look at the convo 😂😂
We don't even check vaults and just kill normally in speedruns, idk what you're on about
That is the exact route you follow to setup the optimal scrolls so you don’t screw yourself
Read the post 😂
That I sent ^
the vault check is for unlocking curiosity box
also, endless doesn't explicitly require ostrich rider as far as i know
yet this includes unlocking it also
yanno what
@modest spoke is this for endless or for a speedrun save file?
That looks like endless in my eyes tbh
idk what to tell you man
I've never seen a curiosity box unlock during a speedrun
the ENTIRE convo we had with him was setting up endless
hence why we started it with me telling you hes on a long run, which then got into details.... then he shared how he sets it up for optimal pulls....
... no?
look at the goddamn convo down from the message i linked
i asked about soul essence
you look up from the message you sent 🤣
in a speedrun save file
look down
like if that is not obviously talking about speedruns i dunno if i'm sane
bro he literally says he cant play boundless and get essence for an endless run because he'll unlock non-optimal scrolls like 7 messages down LOL
FOR A SPEEDRUN
then i asked about soul essence etc
which he replied to
about SPEEDRUNS
you have a dude who literally speed runs this game @trim swan just tell you its not for speedrunning
he even explains why its not for speedrunning
I'm trying to cook fries
This?
yes
it was about setting up a save file for either a speedrun or a endless run
Endless
i'm pretty sure it's the former but ill just wait for him to respond
We don't check vaults for speedruns and the file was already made for speedruns lmao
why would you check all vaults for dragon in a speedrun LOL
If I'm wrong then I'm leaving this server as punishment but that does not look like a file for Speedrun setups
u know how much time you'd waste
i mean i know its not this kid is tweaking about speedruns for some reason
the entire convo leading up to john posting that is for setting up endless runs
Iirc the speedrun file was based on what the of rooms you got so they wouldn't in appear in the run
Not doing all of that precise stuff
oh, i think i know what the hang up is
i honestly don't care which of them is which, but when i was talking to him i assumed it was for speedruns ¯_(ツ)_/¯
as the world has it im probably wrong but at this point i share the sentiment where i no longer care rofl
most pointless argument of all time
fo real
anyway, what was that convo about the game being piss easy again?
@carmine ermine the funniest shit ive ever heard is that apparently there are fucking CHEATS for gunfire reborn lmap
like
christ
why
i was just saying that if you want you can get super detailed in this game, like the speedrun? endless? image i posted
speedrun file, endless doesnt matter since u end up unlocking everything anyways
I'm leaving now
well, if it was endless it'd regardlessly be mindless nuking
as endless always is, always was 
speedruns are prob the only really complex part of the game, and they aren't even a part of the game LOL
im so sorry
Im glad we got to this bottom of this so we can all move on
Shoutout Jon for answering quick
Yep, but they were around back when the game wasn't so easy you could do nothing and it would win for you.
fo real
So there was legitimate reasons why people would have enough of a skill issue to want to cheat.
fair enough
still
The real funny part is how some cheaters still exist.
yknow that one guy, forgot his name, who was complaining the game is too hard here recently and frequently
Because there’s still a large portion of the playerbase who either aren’t mechanically inclined enough to avoid damage or are just not ready for the difficulty they’re playing at yet
theres nona
Whether that’s a skill tree issue or zero knowledge of syncing builds issue
do people like
not know how to strafe
like, just strafing and bhopping will avoid 95% of damage
Not everybody who plays this game is like you, believe it or not. People of all backgrounds play video games, and some are better than most
You don't even need to be a master ninja to play this game.
okay i admit im an avid player of games on the quake engine, but like, wow
the movement is piss easy in this game
Just... if you don't want to get hit, move out of the way.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
If hit is big, dash and move out of the way.
my only complaint about difficulty is close range weapons vs pyro lanterns
like fuckin hell man my ENTIRE PLAYSTYLE is GONE 😭
Why don’t you just use a long range ability, say maybe your rocket to kill them
tbf, some moves are too big to be dashed out of, but they usually don't even do that much damage either way, and they're also on bosses, arguably the easiest part of the game
if i mecha drop iron wing gets his ass instakilled, if i use hardwood missile i find out i shouldve put in some ascensions into it as i'm doing a total of 3 damage
There seems to be an apparent issue in your build here lol
i mean yeah i am not tailoring my build to survive pyro lanterns
The only move that is too big to be dashed out of is Gluttony's Devour attack and maybe Golem's homing rock attack. The former because it covers the entire arena and isn't meant to be dodged, the latter because it's meant to be shot down.
What do you do against elite gas dudes
go around them lol
or instakill them with a mecha drop, but that needs at least stage 40
fair enough lmao
ngl it would be great if this game had more complex movement
but im asking too much, we need basic nerfs first lol
Closest thing that exists to more complex movement is Birb's Leap and the Air Surfer Spiritual Jade.
One is hero-restricted, the other is gamemode-restricted.
Oh I suppose there is the negative effect of self-exploding yourself in the Explosive Carnival daily challenge, but who cares about that one.
at the very least some sort of momentum would be nice
@carmine ermine what i don't get is if players are struggling, why not use more indirect buffs, e.g. an increase in base movement speed, instead of making everything horribly broken?
Because not only are they still direct buffs, but it also wouldn't make the game as easy as the horribly broken buffs do.
much less direct than whatever the hell was done
If people are still complaining the game is too hard even now, smaller buffs would just end up with more people complaining the game is too hard, increasing the number of buffs next update.
The end result will be the same where everything reaches broken levels of power. It would just get there slower.
yea
Oh yeah and another thing. Increases to base stats would be unescapable.
At least with buffs for blessings and weapons and stuff, you can avoid the good ones... mostly.
If your movement speed for every hero went up? Can't avoid that. Permanently easier even if you don't want it.
fair enough
And not just movement speed either. Max HP, Max Shield/Armor, Cooldown Reduction, Secondary Skill recovery, ammo capacity, damage in general...
Or just doing what they've done with Arcane Ascensions where you just get basically a 3rd skill permanently.
oh yeah, if movement speed would be added all hell would break loose now that im thinking about it
i really hope they make them optional
People would have to be really loud about it.
Is 91millon damage in a single hit (without boundless and without the most optimal build possible) a lot for bird
Hi, I'm trying to go for the Crab Buffet achievement. I'm doing a normal run, and alt-F4'ing at the end of Act 3 if I don't get the crab event. I've done like 10 runs and haven't seen it a single time. Am I doing something wrong, or am I just getting shafted by RNG?
are you getting an event in the 3rd stage of act 3
Sometimes, I've seen the "turn everything into catfish warrior" event 2 times
Oh sorry I misread that, no I'm not getting an event in the 3rd stage
then you'll have to start another run
the stage you get an event will stay the same if you're alt f4ing
i dont quite know exactly why but its how it works
welp, that sucks :(
Another question: can more than 1 event show up in Act 3 in normal? Like if an event happens in stage 1, can another also happen in stage 3?
No.
Multiple events per act only happen on Reincarnation difficulty when Mysterious Jokul or Royal Guard is active, or at Reincarnation 8+.
Exception being vaults.
But no vault has the fiddler crab event.
What is the largest magazine weapon for a magazine size gemini?
Could be around 300
Currently found a stormchaser that has 180 magazine size
It's situational
250-255
989ish
Crab Vault...
imagine a "little pests" vault
That just swarms you with Beetles , Crabs and Boars
Also perfect for introducing Elite Boar and Elite Crab
Ironically, act 2 and 3 are the ones that need new elites the least.
it would also include a horde of 100 pyro lanterns
Gimme Elite Lantern
does skill damage boost dual wield dmg ?
Elite Lantern just nukes you when it self-destructs or dies, literally.
You get hit with a heavy dose of radiation if you survive, which constantly lowers your max HP and max Shields/Armor. Eventually you'll be stuck at 1 HP 0 Shields/Armor and die in a single hit.
Skill DMG does not affect Dual-Wield by default. Weapons with explosions benefit from Skill DMG though, so it can work there.
That'd be cool lol
Just lots and lots of mini type enemies


