#Steam 2

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shell patrol
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melee gonna be uh

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painful

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i think

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could flamethrower tho

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what rework

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oh, oh okay what

fresh breach
edgy lodge
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Walking moment

fresh breach
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Having only the independent fortunes of paranormality and flesh and bones should be forbidden haha

edgy lodge
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Planning to get 1000 without any strat like that

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And it's going well lol

trim swan
fresh breach
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Nice, what strat are you using for it?

mellow bear
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im going for 10k

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shi no numa type beat

edgy lodge
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Probably might push above 1000

fresh breach
edgy lodge
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Crown Prince got a rework

fresh breach
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oh lol I didnt even see that

mellow bear
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elemental maestro

edgy lodge
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Yeah that got redone ๐Ÿ’€

mellow bear
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ignoring elemental dmg is very very good for shredding high dr enemies

edgy lodge
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Yeah it is dumb

mellow bear
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just gonna thunder storm it out?

edgy lodge
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Yes and no

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Thunder storm no longer does the funny

mellow bear
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no way....

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probably for the best that gun was the most braindead thing ive ever used in this game

edgy lodge
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Yeah you need some what of a brain to use it now

fresh breach
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Ah that's a shame, I havent played with the thunder storm much yet...

fresh breach
edgy lodge
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It is stilk good but it don't aimbot every thing in existence

fresh breach
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Okay, atleast still useable

mellow bear
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i stopped picking it up bc the gun wasnt even fun or challenging

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it had novelty the first few times bc it was funny but then it got boring

shell patrol
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with painkiller its such goofy shit

fresh breach
shell patrol
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fr

tulip steppe
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i might try foundry TAO

shell patrol
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ah yes

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10.2x crit fire dragon

shell patrol
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o emm gee

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what

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i killed ichy saurus in 2 seconds

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scrumptious 11.2x crit

trim swan
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I did it and I will continue

shell obsidian
dire jolt
shell obsidian
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That's why the 2 modes exist

edgy lodge
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I'm close to the 300s rn

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Crown Prince gaming

karmic vault
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Never knew Crown Prince was, uh. Viable by any measure.

edgy lodge
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He was still viable regardless
He's a pretty good character ore patch

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But for some silly reason he's buffed by a long shot

carmine ermine
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Because becoming a god isn't good enough anymore.

edgy lodge
carmine ermine
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(Nightmare difficulty)

mellow bear
plain sedge
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yo anyone having a bug with the rainbow where the rof infinitly goes up

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i was gonna make a post in the issues thread but idk if this bug has existed forever or somethng

carmine ermine
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Huh, so that's what that Sword Mastery buff meant.

Well, that's another hero frame that just got made easier to achieve. Now instead of level 3 of either Sword Shadow or Luminous Heart, and level 2 of the other...

Now you just need Sword Shadow 2 and Sword Mastery.

shell patrol
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with painkiller you melt shit

rustic falcon
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so i just saw patch notes. Li was op and now even more op? i did not test it yet tough

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isnt this a bit insane

carmine ermine
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The Raging Inferno one might actually be the "1 Nerf Quota" of the update.
It's the same bonus, but with a limited duration instead of a missing (somehow) penalty, and requires you to use energy to gain stacks.

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Flame Dance and Energy Draining definitely got buffed however.

karmic vault
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I dunno how b'ys are looking at the First Strike spiritual ascension like "yeah that's fine and fair and balanced"

carmine ermine
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No one looks at spiritual blessings and thinks they're fine and fair and balanced.

tall spade
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anyone know how to fix the screen res window mode issue?

summer igloo
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got to kill gluttony during his "invicibility" state

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I wish the enemy damage resistance would stack alot faster

shell obsidian
summer igloo
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I couldnt do it anymore

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it was just brainrot to the max

carmine ermine
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Thank the people who asked for it.

shell obsidian
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I mean people don't /have/ to play that mode

dire jolt
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i still prefer normal endless

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boundless is too easy

thorn socket
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Doing Boundless journey, at stage 49 and yeah.. i gotta say boundless is too easy

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ive yet to feel any challenge im so broken

carmine ermine
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Sounds like par for the course, to be honest. Exactly what people want.

thorn socket
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i aint complaining either

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Its basically the cloest thing to sandbox mode

shell obsidian
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^

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It is basically sandbox mode

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Which is what I wanted lol

umbral kite
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Can anyone explain this?

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How did I do 2.1 bil damage in 1 hit

carmine ermine
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You hit them really hard.

wet hatch
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but isnt cap 45m?

carmine ermine
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The cap is 10m. Some things bypass it.

tulip steppe
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how knows, at some point in endless you do 2.1b

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think its to much in a few frames

edgy lodge
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Idk if this was already figured but (for at least in boundless) bosses go past the health cap

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At roughly 311

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With 2.19 billion

fickle minnow
somber summit
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Giant slayer is one way to break the dmg cap in endless, its just magic

shell obsidian
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Isn't that the scroll that only does 2000 damage at most?

fickle minnow
somber summit
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Its supposed to cap at like 5k ye, but funky code lets it bypass that sometimes

somber summit
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Quite some more funky things i discovered

shell obsidian
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I thought it was only 2k (apparently it scales with number of players in the squad though from what the wiki says)

fickle minnow
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or smth like that

fickle minnow
shell obsidian
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2k single player, or 5x * squad number... which means even having one other player means it does 10k as a cap instead?

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and 20k if 4 player game

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Oh wait, non enhanced is 2k

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enhanced is 5k * squad number

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And the 20k CAN bypass damage cap

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And fish and bear paw allows it to activate twice simultanously, essentially dealing 40k

edgy lodge
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Good thing I have enhanced giant slayer

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Just having fun with Boundless

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Idk if endless scaling has changed in anyway but you have to go a looooong time before you start seeing very funny boss health in R9 Boundless

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I don't mind scaling happening slower but jeez, you don't hit the old health cap until the 300s...

shell obsidian
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Ye, R9 Boundless is pretty easy, but it's also fun just using playing around with it

edgy lodge
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Yea

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But a new mode = new 1000+ run

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Gonna get 1000 for both endless and boundless Troll

shell obsidian
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I do wish they kept the training master in, but I'm happy enough just being able to get every goblet lol

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Maybe just have him be rarer to encounter ideally, but still possible

edgy lodge
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I maxed out my primary ascension last for Crown Prince
Don't even need it

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Rn bosses are at 2.5 ish billion and I'm still destroying them in less than a second Troll

shell obsidian
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I like how on Lei Luo I don't even need to attack half the time, the passive lightning arcs just kill everything as I walk into rooms

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Or thunder bolts rather?

edgy lodge
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My elemental ring scrolls are dealing busted damage lol

shell obsidian
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Yeah, don't they go up in damage per ascension level?

edgy lodge
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Base dmg yeag

shell obsidian
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There is 48 points you can put on ascensions in total, so that times the base damage of the rings... x3 rings

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Plus miasma damage, explosion damage

carmine ermine
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54 if you include Ascension Fusion.

shell obsidian
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Yeah, that's gonna do a lot lol

edgy lodge
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And element nova moment

shell obsidian
edgy lodge
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My rings are doing millions a tick

shell obsidian
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Cuz I'm definitely gonna have 2 ascension fusions now whenever I play this mode lol

carmine ermine
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Total of 3050 base damage.

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Per ring.

shell obsidian
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enhanced also trigger on crits

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meaning you can rapidly fire them with certain weapons

carmine ermine
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Probably don't even need that.

edgy lodge
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Nah

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They trigger every 1.5 secs with element nova

carmine ermine
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The spiritual link drops the cooldown from 6s to 1.5s, while the crit rings still have a CD of 1s.

shell obsidian
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Aah, so not quite so rapid, but still fast

shell patrol
shell obsidian
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Most people do lol

shell patrol
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with painkiller they FUCK

edgy lodge
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I love hitting Damage cap at round 20 Troll

carmine ermine
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With both going at the same time at the fastest speed, you'd get an equivalent of 0.6s cooldown per ring.

shell obsidian
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Do you even need pain killer if you get all 3 rings?

shell patrol
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yes

edgy lodge
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Yeah

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Crown Prince is a god with painkiller lol

shell patrol
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painkiller makes effects on you positive AND any effects you apply with weapond deal all

shell obsidian
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Fair point!

shell patrol
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painkiller FUCKS

carmine ermine
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Eh, realistically Painkiller would only do something with the first 2 rings that hit an enemy, and Magnetic Coil.

shell patrol
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also i love First Strike its so funky

shell obsidian
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The explosion damage is based off what applied the damage from what I was reading

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From the elemental combo I mean

shell patrol
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if you have Deft Hands you can max out the bonus most of the time

shell obsidian
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Meaning painkiller allows more damage than you can get from the rings

twin kelp
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Why does flowing wind bring me from 60% - 73% dr?

shell patrol
shell patrol
twin kelp
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bro what ๐Ÿ’€

shell patrol
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youll get 80% with speed bonus scrolls

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flowing wind grants up to 20% dmg resistance based on movement speed

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don't you fucking dare ๐Ÿ’€ me

twin kelp
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dr is multiplicative

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it should be going from 60-68

shell obsidian
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Does player damage resistance cap at 90%?

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I noticed last night I couldn't get it higher for some reason

edgy lodge
shell patrol
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yeah its 90%

shell patrol
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ok so

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if you have 60 dmg resistance already

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and get flowing wind

shell obsidian
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Then you need speed bonuses to go up to 80%

twin kelp
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what daa heell

shell patrol
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the fucking scroll

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says

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UP TO 20%

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its based off your current movement speed

shell obsidian
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Yeah, it won't always provide the 20%

twin kelp
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isn't dr multiplicative

shell patrol
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so in this case, to max out the bonus, you need scrolls to boost the speed

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no it isnt?

shell obsidian
shell patrol
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who the hell told you that lmao

shell obsidian
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DR is a flat number which becomes a % as the stat

twin kelp
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Did they change it?

edgy lodge
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My DR rn is -2588% ๐Ÿ˜Ž

shell obsidian
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It didn't get changed, just made more clear with a visible stat from what I read

shell patrol
shell patrol
twin kelp
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No, it definitely was multiplicative before

carmine ermine
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It got changed.

shell obsidian
carmine ermine
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That reminds me, I need to update a wiki page at some point.

shell patrol
twin kelp
carmine ermine
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Around when Endless Journey was added.

shell patrol
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unless you mean the -X% dmg taken

edgy lodge
shell patrol
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those are different from resistance

carmine ermine
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Many bonuses went from -X% DMG Taken to +X% DMG Resistance.

shell patrol
carmine ermine
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Some still remain, but most were changed.

shell obsidian
shell patrol
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yea but still

twin kelp
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the gaslighting is crazy ๐Ÿ˜ญ

shell patrol
edgy lodge
shell patrol
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i mean, if you don't like the answers, go test them yourself

shell obsidian
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It essentially serves same function

edgy lodge
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Gluttony has 1.9 Trillion shield in his ultimate attack on Round 354 ๐Ÿ’€

edgy lodge
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Yeah the succ

shell patrol
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wait... isnt shield or hp capped at

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2.147 billion

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wuh

edgy lodge
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the cap is gone

edgy lodge
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Oh god

tulip steppe
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faster scaling

shell patrol
carmine ermine
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Next wave of complaints: "Remove damage cap!!!"

edgy lodge
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I'm 1000 ing Boundless then after a break, going back to 1000 endless one more time with the New Crown Prince rework

shell patrol
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IM GONNA FUCKING BURN DOWN DUOYI

twin kelp
shell obsidian
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I'm not quite sure what specifically was being asked

shell patrol
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so no

twin kelp
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That means it's an effective 33% multiplicative damage reduction, which means dr is most certainly not functioning as it did prior.

edgy lodge
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I'm taking whatever the fuck -2624% damage is purplefrancis

shell obsidian
shell patrol
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anyway, what in the living shit is enhanced mid air strike

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-90% dmg taken???

edgy lodge
shell patrol
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is it damage resistance or is it stacked on top of a 90% damage resistance

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so ends up being 99% or such

carmine ermine
shell obsidian
shell patrol
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thats

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incredibly silly

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so you take

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0.01x damage

shell obsidian
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Yeah, brief 99% resistance, cuz it scales on top

shell patrol
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with both

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in theory

carmine ermine
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""Brief""

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That's probably what the devs were thinking.

shell patrol
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thats so unfathomably fucking stupid i love it

shell obsidian
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you could bunny hop, yes, I realize

shell patrol
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wait

shell patrol
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does DMG taken cap at 90

dire jolt
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yes

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redux caps at 90

shell patrol
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not resistance, taken

carmine ermine
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DMG Resistance caps at 90%

shell obsidian
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Damage resistance caps at 90%, but can infinitely scale to negative I think

carmine ermine
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DMG Taken, being multiplicative, didn't cap.

edgy lodge
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If it was at 100% then you'd be taking 1s only

carmine ermine
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As far as we know.

dire jolt
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this was my best enhanced run in endless not BOUNDLESS. :v

shell patrol
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if it doesnt cap at 90 you could essentailly have 100 with midair strike + painkiller lightning

dire jolt
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coulda kept going but i died of boredom

shell patrol
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i ASSUME lightning painkiller is -10% dmg taken

carmine ermine
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Taken is multiplicative. It will never reach 100% unless something gives 100%.

edgy lodge
carmine ermine
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Resistance is additive, which would be able to reach 100% with smaller bonuses if it wasn't for the 90% cap.

shell obsidian
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I just use scroll wheel

edgy lodge
dire jolt
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thanks to enhanced dual edge, i never really got reduced in damage

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i was always at 90%

shell patrol
edgy lodge
carmine ermine
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Yes.

edgy lodge
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Because I'm fucking mad

dire jolt
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no u dont

edgy lodge
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Yes I do

dire jolt
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ur just coping

edgy lodge
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I'm mental

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SHISH

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SHUSH

shell obsidian
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I think the intent is eventually dropping spirit and dying to an enemy intentionally with a massive hit

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Again lol

dire jolt
shell patrol
shell patrol
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is it even possible to go the dmg resistance route instead of spirit feline

shell obsidian
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What is the max hp you can get from veteran? Assuming I just grinded until it hit the limit

edgy lodge
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Probably 60000

shell patrol
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then 65535

edgy lodge
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Since stack scrolls cap there

edgy lodge
shell patrol
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huh

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thats a weird limit

edgy lodge
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Stack Scrolls cap at 60k

shell patrol
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funky

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so, youll be able to tank, 600k damage

edgy lodge
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At least it's definitely the case for Extravagant Consumption

shell patrol
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yeah um thats not a very good prospect

shell patrol
shell obsidian
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I doubt I'd grind to get my hp that high, but I can imagine that would be a funny screen cap

edgy lodge
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It's pointless to rely on veteran when you can just get spirit feline

shell patrol
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yup

edgy lodge
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I'm at 10k health with veteran barely hitting 1000 rn

shell patrol
shell obsidian
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Cookie clicker logic

shell patrol
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i got oneshot by a pyro lantern at 600hp with spirit feline yesterday

granite onyx
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fuck lanterns

shell patrol
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can spirit feline bug out and not activate?

granite onyx
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thats my motto

shell patrol
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i feel like that happened

shell obsidian
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Or simultanous explosions

shell patrol
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i had painkiller

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if anything the fire effect wouldve healed me

shell obsidian
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the ground fire still does damage

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the effect heals you

carmine ermine
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You heal from Burning, not fire damage.

shell obsidian
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^

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That

shell patrol
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what

shell obsidian
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The ground effect from Pyro Lanterns is still capable of killing you even with spirit feline. That's usually how I die with spirit. Lanterns suck.

shell patrol
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so ground fire still does damage

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even with painkiller?

carmine ermine
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Painkiller only reverses the elemental effects.

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Not damage you take from hits.

shell patrol
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im gonna fucking kill myself i had that happen like THREE FUCKING TIMES at this point

carmine ermine
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The fire pools hit you with a chance to inflict Burning.

shell patrol
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ughhh

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how fast do they hit

carmine ermine
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Depends. How many did you kill in that one spot?

shell patrol
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at most two

twin kelp
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Elemental damage and elemental effects aren't the same thing

shell patrol
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yes, they are not

earnest minnow
tulip steppe
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hp is capped at 2.whateverBil as there was a bird bug that allowed for infinite health gain

shell obsidian
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Health cap is not the same as scroll cap

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Veteran's health increase is specific to the scroll bonus

tulip steppe
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doubt there is a cap

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the money one is 60k cap, maybe that goes for all buffs

shell patrol
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what was the bug

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and does it still work

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sounds funny

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i kinda wanted to pick up bird as a secondary

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he has some hella nice ascensions

carmine ermine
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Was a bug combining Flesh and Bones, Birb's Oppressor blessing and percent-based self damage like Bloody Ammo or Capacity Overdraft.

shell patrol
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whats oppressor

tulip steppe
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all sentences has WAS

carmine ermine
shell obsidian
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I only care for one birb, and that is Zi Xiao

shell patrol
tulip steppe
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owl AoBai_Gun

shell patrol
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i might possibly try owl

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he is funky with da scrolls

carmine ermine
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Basically, every time you took damage to HP, you gained max Armor.

Max Armor would convert to Max HP. This would further increase the cap, letting you get even more Max Armor.

shell obsidian
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Oh, that sounds broken lol

carmine ermine
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Keep going and going with self-inflicted damage until you hit the integer limit.

shell patrol
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thats so silly

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but like, is the increase forever

carmine ermine
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I did say integer limit.

shell patrol
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i mean, does it stay increasdd

shell obsidian
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I assume this was patched out long ago?

carmine ermine
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Pretty much.

shell patrol
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if the bug was patched, why have a cap

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lulz

shell obsidian
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Seems too busted to keep that, as fun as that would have been

carmine ermine
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Unfortunately, it was basically worthless on Birb unless you had Enduring Caster or Thorny Carapace.

shell patrol
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why?

carmine ermine
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Because ironically, Birb is the hero who has the least trouble not dying.

shell patrol
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oh

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lmfao

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i die but i (usually) have iron wing so like

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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... wait

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what does Pair Of Us on nona do for damage again?

carmine ermine
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Iron Wing gets damage based on Iron Wing's max HP.

shell obsidian
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Iron Wing also scales off skill damage naturally

shell patrol
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o shi

earnest minnow
shell obsidian
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Self rez from iron wing is nice, but passively lightning shooting everywhere, rapid fire elemental homing cards and hellfire rain or shooting literal burning foxes is a ton of fun too

shell patrol
shell obsidian
shell obsidian
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Even mentions in the character description

shell patrol
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is there a way to give iron wing over 2k hp

shell patrol
trim swan
shell patrol
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i only picked nona bc funny mech

shell obsidian
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Iron Wing's hp is capped sadly

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But damage is not

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Err

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besides the regular limit

earnest minnow
shell patrol
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so hes worthless in endless in terms of revives

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yay!

shell patrol
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fusion FUCKS

shell obsidian
carmine ermine
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Iron Wing's HP is capped at the talent bonus, the Wood Armor bonus and max ascensions.

shell obsidian
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There is 0 reason on boundless not to take 2 fusions lol

rustic falcon
earnest minnow
shell patrol
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ok so in endless ill need Counterviolence + Painkiller + Pair of Us

earnest minnow
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Just lucky enought to got carried throu

shell patrol
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could get First Strike too if i have cv in lone wolf

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could also get same boat idk

shell obsidian
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Endless still limits goblets, right?

trim swan
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Yes

carmine ermine
rustic falcon
tulip steppe
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it was 30 stack

carmine ermine
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The damage bonus is exactly the same.

shell patrol
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breh

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close call is worthless

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its only immune to non elemental

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thats so stupid

rustic falcon
shell patrol
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i hate this game

earnest minnow
trim swan
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Sips

carmine ermine
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It used to be 15% * 30 stacks = 450%.

earnest minnow
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Not the Fusion are bad

carmine ermine
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Now it's 45% * 10 stacks = 450%.

rustic falcon
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oh sorry i'm blind XD

carmine ermine
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You just now have to cast good Spiritual Flames to stack it, and you can't just idle around anymore.

rustic falcon
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okay than it is good balance

shell patrol
rustic falcon
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as a Li player at least from teory i'm happy with it

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thanks for correction i read it wrong

tulip steppe
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for skill builds, fusion acensions are rather useless

rustic falcon
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what i was unhappy about weapon based Li tough

tulip steppe
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weapon li is so strong

shell obsidian
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OH, okay so it is very tiny nerf... still means spirit flame can do the big hits, just gotta actually have energy built up to get that bonus now

rustic falcon
shell patrol
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oops

tulip steppe
shell patrol
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close combat*

shell obsidian
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Li's skills are all fire damage, and can apply burning effect

shell patrol
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i love close comabt, such a silly ascension

shell obsidian
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Skill damage AND elemental damage bonuses help her skill

rustic falcon
tulip steppe
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you can

rustic falcon
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you can do everything but that not what i'm talking about

tulip steppe
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use Fire wepons and its easy

rustic falcon
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seems like when you go skill Li you can just stack skill power but when you go weapon Li you stack both

tulip steppe
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do rainbow and kill everything

shell obsidian
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I play Li with pure weapon sometimes, I just play with one that triggers the secondary skill when you use the weapon

trim swan
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My friend plays pure Thunder Storm Li and he reached far in endless

shell obsidian
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Her lucky shot bonus ascension is also nice

rustic falcon
shell obsidian
tulip steppe
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thats just how her kit works

rustic falcon
trim swan
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He only quit because he got bored so I think Li only weapon is pretty good

rustic falcon
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weapon bonuses of other character is way superiour

shell obsidian
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owl can shoot cards, monkey uses skill to increase weapon damage, li calls down meteors, lei luo shoots lightning, etc

rustic falcon
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again you talking about what they can do

shell patrol
rustic falcon
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i'm not talking about it

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weapon bonus of other characters is superiour to Li

shell patrol
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i think the critX gemini is the most broken ngl

shell obsidian
tulip steppe
rustic falcon
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but what i'm saying character design of Li weapon part is looks like ment to play hybrid

carmine ermine
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Elemental Rage, Pyrodominance, Electrodominance, Adrenal Rush, Close Call, Close Combat, Last Stand, Shadow Knight, Wave Rider, Solid Shell, Aura Protection, Total Eradication, Furious Flame, Flame Talisman and Battle Pace can all still help with skill builds.

That's 15/29 Ascension Fusion choices.

shell patrol
tulip steppe
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Magshare

shell obsidian
shell patrol
shell obsidian
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It's not much of a bonus, but it's still more speed

tulip steppe
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yes

rustic falcon
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when i play other weapon character i give skill scrolls to my friends when i play weapon li i hoard everything XD

shell patrol
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but why

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honestly

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don't focus on either scroll or weapon and use both

tulip steppe
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you get 3/4 of your magsize as dmg

rustic falcon
trim swan
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That reminds me I probably need to do my magshare build for endless when I get to it, don't really need shared elements if I'm running Painkiller

shell patrol
tulip steppe
shell patrol
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whats the biggest mag possible in the game?

shell patrol
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might try

tulip steppe
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as a stat stick its 250ish

shell patrol
#

i love the critx gemini on flamethrower tho

tulip steppe
#

yeah, mag is better then

rustic falcon
#

also also i'm super super glad for Smogbound Zone change

trim swan
rustic falcon
#

i was trying to make it work so many times in our group i never able to deal good enough damage XD

tulip steppe
rustic falcon
#

new version seems quite good

shell obsidian
tulip steppe
#

its now his strongest blessing

trim swan
rustic falcon
#

"+50% Elemental DMG taken and +100% elemental effect chance of enemies when they are in the area of smoke grenade." that part sound so good

tulip steppe
rustic falcon
#

i dont think gurantee

trim swan
shell obsidian
#

Launchers generally have small magazines

rustic falcon
#

because it say +100% not 100%

shell obsidian
#

Like the gemini doubled over itself or something

tulip steppe
#

i am unsure, canโ€™t check atm

rustic falcon
#

also doesnt matter both way is good XD

#

even just doubling elemental chance is huge

trim swan
#

1000 stacks for shared mags is broken

tulip steppe
rustic falcon
shell obsidian
#

I love when I find weapons with over 100% elemental affect chance lol

shell patrol
#

whats the highest critX possible tho

tulip steppe
rustic falcon
shell patrol
#

no fucking way

#

what

#

how

#

i thought my 10.2x crit flamer was good ๐Ÿ˜ญ

rustic falcon
#

how ? more like why XD

rustic falcon
tulip steppe
#

funny

rustic falcon
#

when i go armed caster at least 12x is bare minimum XD

shell patrol
#

how in the living name of fk

rustic falcon
#

easy actually

shell patrol
#

i mean ig you can have 2 bricks

rustic falcon
#

you have two bow

#

with high base crit

shell patrol
#

brick has the highest critx, no?

rustic falcon
#

i think you need to hit things with it

#

to have high crit

#

i dont have time for that XD

#

and get a few crit scroll

#

and get crit gemini and you done

shell patrol
#

no, i mean base crit

rustic falcon
#

and you need to find enchanted bows with enchanted crit

#

no

#

brick base crit is 4

shell patrol
#

i swear i saw one with 6.6x

rustic falcon
#

you can

#

weapons have thins to increase their base crit

shell patrol
#

o ye

#

the enhancement

rustic falcon
#

Glazed Sight + Hawkeye Sight what you need

shell patrol
#

yea

#

question is how to not get hit 50 times lol

rustic falcon
#

by not taking hp damage

#

you can get hit but not hp damage

shell patrol
#

mfw i play flesh and bones

rustic falcon
#

than enjoy free 0.5x

#

if you go that way you probably high have hp and Enduring Caster

shell patrol
#

what's enduring caster

rustic falcon
#

hp to skill power. Bigger muscle you have better fireball you cast XD

carmine ermine
#

Gain skill damage based on your max HP and Shield/Armor.

shell patrol
#

oh yea that

rustic falcon
#

in Turkish we have a saying healthy/sturdy brain belong to healthy/sturdy body XD

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so if you wanna be mage go to gym my friend

shell patrol
#

i just realized

#

enduring caster helps iron wing a ton

#

wasnt a big fan before

carmine ermine
#

Probably not as much as other heroes.

shell patrol
#

also i love Fight for Immortality with flesh and bones

shell patrol
rustic falcon
#

iron wing fire version is waaay to strong to the point last time we played my friend bored

carmine ermine
#

Nona doesn't really have much of an incentive to increase max HP and Shield/Armor.

rustic falcon
#

so that how i stop playing it XD

shell patrol
#

if i have say 500 hp itll double his damage

carmine ermine
#

Why make yourself tougher when you can just revive?

rustic falcon
#

my skill bases fire turret nona was literally deleting everything before we see them of 4 team max difficulty

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so that how my group bored and decite to not to do that again XD

shell patrol
#

dont like turret mode tbh

rustic falcon
#

yeah my friends are not fan of it either XD

shell patrol
rustic falcon
#

seems like they wanna play too

shell patrol
#

strike mode is funnier

rustic falcon
#

oh hell no

#

strike mod is bad

shell patrol
#

is fire mode THAT good

shell patrol
rustic falcon
#

that good? bru we ban that character because of me XD

carmine ermine
#

3 words. Shoulder Cannon Upgrade.

shell patrol
#

mecha drop si one of the silliest thingy

rustic falcon
#

i'm not joking it literally delte everything

carmine ermine
#

I've never played Nona and I know that Fire Mode is absurd.

shell patrol
#

might try it

#

but like

#

i want my mecha drop ๐Ÿ˜ญ

rustic falcon
#

i play with that on solo for farming when watching youtube

shell patrol
#

the stun is horribly funny

#

mecha drop is literally "stand by for titanfall"

rustic falcon
#

shoulder canon is extremly strong

#

and it is almost feels like bugged

shell patrol
#

alrite

rustic falcon
#

because everytime you drop your turret it trigger it and when you have good cooldown reduction oh boi XD

shell patrol
#

do i have to spam hardwood missile with it?

rustic falcon
#

also after you stack enough skills and perk or however it was written it go crazy

shell patrol
#

wait i just realized, resilient life is hella good with capacity overdraft or bloody ammo, no?

rustic falcon
#

better if you do

#

but no XD

#

turret mode is basically where you can use hardwood missiles without use it

#

turrent use it for you

#

so you dont have to deal secondary usage problem

shell patrol
#

wait do hardwood missile buffs for nona also apply to missiles launched by iron wing?

rustic falcon
#

hell yeah it is

#

that is why it is abusrtly strong

#

it melt things so fast you dont even need to shoot hardwood yourself except bosses

#

and some high hp enemies

#

there were some enemies have higher hp than bosses XD

#

or felt like it

#

even Mastery help fire mod (60% attack speed) not that great compare to others but good when you dont have other options

#

Heat Core, Missile Storm, Shoulder Cannon Upgrade are what you need

#

on top of that you can get mastery, Nimble Finger for extra damage

shell patrol
#

skull

#

thats disgustingly funny

rustic falcon
#

and that how you get weapon of mass destrucation

#

aka fire mode

#

also that how your friends get bored from game because they cant see enemies XD

#

enemies what is that XD

#

gunfire reborn the walking simulator XD

shell patrol
#

wait

#

dealdy counter + bloody ammo is wicked good

#

wtf

#

hm

rustic falcon
#

deadly counter is alone is extremly strong

shell patrol
#

eh

#

i have counterviolence already

rustic falcon
#

i had a run where i keep constantly attacking with two shotgun with ao with infinite dual wielding duration and non stop self buffs because of self harm

#

dealdy counter + bloody ammo was part of it

#

also because i were self harming i had crazy high hp regen and hp XD

#

in poe it is called self cast loop XD or something like that where you hurt yourself and because of that tons of things happen

shell patrol
#

i thought bloody ammo was kinda ass lmao

#

dk if it still is, or no

rustic falcon
#

it is good

shell patrol
#

without other buffs from damage

#

fun

rustic falcon
#

there was a shotgun for that

#

i forget it name wild something

shell patrol
#

wild hunt

rustic falcon
#

yeah

#

also normally i use that weapon with my auto clicker mouse XD

#

my mouse have a button on it that basically when hold spam left mouse click

#

good to use with weapons you need to click lmb constantly

shell patrol
#

cheater! /j

rustic falcon
#

skill issue get a good mouse XD

#

also work on others games too

#

if i remember there is even a disasese caused by excess usage of finger like that XD

#

better protect your finger

shell patrol
rustic falcon
#

that a bit excessive but okay that sound good too

shell patrol
#

i have a mmo mouse

rustic falcon
#

that make way more sense now

#

you need all the buttons for mmo

#

get a pedal too

shell patrol
rustic falcon
#

so you can use your foot

shell patrol
#

silly

rustic falcon
#

i mean we pianist do that already

#

you can have a feet controller XD

#

to trigger more stuff

#

hand eye coordination old you also need hand eye feet coordination XD

shell patrol
#

your x and d keys are gonna wear out soon

rustic falcon
#

they already worn out

#

my keyboard have barely have any labeled key anymore XD

tulip steppe
#

@shell patrol Bet It All on owl and spam primary

#

T3 makes the wild cards give crit

shell patrol
#

thats so silly

#

its only for 5s tho, no?

shell patrol
tulip steppe
#

think i had it at 66x or something

#

can try and find it

shell patrol
shell patrol
#

you can do more???

twin kelp
#

Did they add an extra 0 for skill dmg on recycle or something

trim swan
shell patrol
#

it seemed weak to me

hoary badger
trim swan
hoary badger
trim swan
sand bobcat
#

current boundless dream run using the Atomic Bomb build, which at this stage is kind of redundant, but i am now just getting repeated scrolls and slowly getting all my scrolls to their enhanced version.... the game still refuses to give me Dual Edge.

trim swan
sand bobcat
#

they need to scale the enemies a bit better in boundless dream for each stage you get passed

sand bobcat
tulip steppe
#

i just gave a fire trap 100% fire procs and it combusted the room to smithereens

#

Smogbound is indeed 100% flat chance to proc elements

shell patrol
shrewd meadow
#

okay so theres another thread ok

#

can someone explain what in the seventh hells is endless journey ?

#

before the recent update it would have a portal in the last stage to loop
now it does nothing and i wasted 2 runs a total of nearly 3 hours wanting to loop to get teh achievements but the gate dont spawn in the end

tulip steppe
#

did you have it turned on?

shrewd meadow
#

yes

#

we thought maybe we messed up

#

so we did another run with it on and we checked carefully

#

we go to the end

#

nope

tulip steppe
#

not tried endless now, only done some boundless

shrewd meadow
#

it worked b4 the last update

tulip steppe
#

ye, played it

shrewd meadow
#

i swear its broken now

#

its useless

edgy lodge
#

I haven't tried endless since this update lol

shrewd meadow
#

dont

#

the loop portal dont show up ....

edgy lodge
#

I wasn't gonna

shrewd meadow
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ im so mad

edgy lodge
#

I'm in the middle of a Boundless run to 1000

shrewd meadow
#

i just want the last 2 achievements

edgy lodge
#

It sounds like people can't play endless journey?

shrewd meadow
#

can i get the same achievements by doing boundless?

#

tho the text in them says endless so i guess not

#

hhhhhhhhhh im done wiht this game for a while now

tulip steppe
#

i guess you can

#

doubt that it wouldn't work

#

@edgy lodge Li gets to keep injectors as the 100% from smogbound doesn't apply to them

#

classic injector jank

spice forum
#

Endless is for the achievements

#

Meaning R9 and the extra modifier on

#

BUT not the boundless on as well

#

that can mess with it

edgy lodge
#

Welp, just got a screenshot of 2 guns at 360% elemental effect chance lmao

shell patrol
#

like, do they fuckin proc e.g. combustion 3 times

shell obsidian
sand bobcat
trim swan
#

H

shell obsidian
trim swan
#

I don't mind getting extravagant consumption at a later stage

#

I can just upgrade it to an enhanced if that's the case

shell patrol
#

is extravagant consumption that good?

#

id rather go for Unfettered Will

trim swan
#

I had extravagant and unfettered during my boundless

#

And had premium membership

shell patrol
#

both is kinda... eh?

shell obsidian
trim swan
#

And rich privileges

edgy lodge
shell obsidian
#

Extravagant consumption and dual edge goes way further than rich's and unfettered will

#

Due to the money cap

sand bobcat
shell patrol
#

im saying BOTH unfettered will and extravagant consumption is meh

#

on their own theyre nice

sand bobcat
shell patrol
#

bro is on the spiritual link grind

shell obsidian
shell patrol
#

now engance your ostrich rider and fleshnbones

sand bobcat
sand bobcat
shell patrol
#

but extravagant consumption spends your copper once you switch stage...

sand bobcat
#

since there is a cap of 65,500 copper that you can have on hand it's fine

shell obsidian
sand bobcat
#

yeah, each recycled weapon is like 2000 and the scrolls are around there as well

#

plus i have jackpot

shell obsidian
#

Money scales with level on dream (possibly also endless?) which makes it easier to handle later.

trim swan
shell patrol
#

uh oke

sand bobcat
#

dang

trim swan
#

Repeating cursed scrolls was nice

shell patrol
trim swan
#

Decrease my movement speed by trifold

#

And get rid of my elemental

teal fossil
#

does this also share the elemental mods or just elemental hit chance?

#

like dmg agains burning enemies etc..

#

@sand bobcat just curious why dont you have a higher ele chance weapon on side

shell obsidian
spice forum
#

If you have no element on weapon A and share element with an Aura of Venom , weapon A now has increased effectiveness against armor instead of reduced and 40% chance to cause decay

#

Thats it

shell obsidian
#

IE makes weapons act like fire against hp, lightning against shield, corrosion against armor?

spice forum
#

It isnt a corrosive weapon suddenly and still deals normal weapon dmg and wont benefit from increased elemental dmg

#

Yes it would do that Javeloz

shell obsidian
#

Aah so elemental advantage is the type of effectiveness but without the element change

spice forum
#

They dont gain the element but only its debuff and its offensive bonus

shell obsidian
#

I forget... is the sand worm boss the only one with armor?

spice forum
#

so far

sand bobcat
teal fossil
#

xd

sand bobcat
# teal fossil xd

i'll find a corrosion weapon with higher elemental effect chance and swap it just to test out if there is any change with this build

sand bobcat
#

almost maxed out my copper in a single stage

sand bobcat
#

i can't tell if it's making a difference having teh higher chance on the off side weapon

shrewd meadow
#

i did 4 endless runs ina row

#

and no polar monarch

#

is there a secret to getting him ?

sand bobcat
sand bobcat
spice forum
#

endless or boundless ?

shrewd meadow
#

boundless

spice forum
#

thats random

shrewd meadow
#

(endless is broken it doesnt loop anymore and the devs dont know)

spice forum
#

endless guarantees the other boss the second time

shrewd meadow
#

does the boundless work for the last 2 achievements for endless ?

#

yeah except endless is broken :)

#

3 times so far wtih endless journey mode

#

the loop doesnt show up in the end

spice forum
#

that doesnt change the fact

shrewd meadow
#

so u cant loop

spice forum
#

Yes

#

but not being able to loop doesnt change the fact that thats one of the differences between boundless and endless

trim swan
#

I figured out how to tell what boss it'll be during the 4th act

shrewd meadow
#

would the achievement work in boundless

spice forum
#

Its endless

trim swan
shrewd meadow
#

so achievements are disabled

#

until devs fix this lol

#

rip

trim swan
#

They always find a way

shrewd meadow
#

to break things?

trim swan
#

Mhmm

shrewd meadow
#

also man

#

iv had

#

so many runs lately and the end never polar monarch always the other guy , even without endless just normal with friends

trim swan
#

Oof

#

Sorry to hear

sand bobcat
#

finally got it after killing the Polar Monarch

trim swan
#

Nice

round thunder
#

Spores is so ridiculous

shrewd meadow
#

loop number like

#

10

#

and no polar monarch

#

๐Ÿ˜”

#

another loop, nope

#

i gave up lol

#

i like how after my buffs for dual edg en other things got 1000+ all text became chinese

karmic vault
round thunder
karmic vault
#

Does the damage off the offhand matter for spores?

spice forum
#

Yes

#

Argus is the best for that

#

porcupine is down the list compared to other shotguns

carmine ermine
#

Porcupine is like... 2nd worst in terms of damage.

#

Hell (exclusive), Argus, Wild Hunt, Hell, Wheel Saw, Pupil, Porcupine, Illusion.

sand bobcat
#

that element chance though

karmic vault
#

o. I thought it was just the sum of projectiles.

round thunder
#

Here's a detailed breakdown for the one of the most common spore builds Rainbow + Argus

#

notably it doesn't matter which of the two weapons is the one to have a high damage as they both will always contribute the same % of their total damage (including projectiles) to the spore proc damage

#

If only the enhanced bonus was also lucky shot lol

karmic vault
#

Very informative. More so than what the game itself conveys. The fandom wiki seems to be a bit spotty on details like this, as well. Is there a copendium of mechanics knowledge out there or is it just bits and pieces worked on throughout this server's life?

round thunder
#

the wiki does have the formula for spores but not a detailed breakdown of how weapon choice affects the behaviour

umbral kite
#

Not cap but max as in red

shell obsidian
#

Oh the red numbers mean lucky is maxed? I was wondering what that was

carmine ermine
#

It means you have triple lucky shot or higher.

trim swan
#

I thought red meant it was quadruple

carmine ermine
#

Quadruple damage.

#

Triple lucky shot.

#

Because the bonus is 300% to guarantee.

trim swan
#

Ah

round thunder
karmic vault
#

I'm dying for an expanded arsenal, too.

shell obsidian
#

Expanded arsenal would be nice. No reason there can't be a scroll bar to get more. Could add that as a suggestion?

carmine ermine
#

Taking the screenshot sounds like it would achieve the same result in this case.

#

AKA the weapon is cool, but you're probably not gonna use it because it's a gimmick.

trim swan
#

That reminds me, I think the arsenal bugged out and removed one of my weapons when I ended my boundless mode

#

I only took out two weapons and gave both of them imprints, and I don't know which one it bugged out

shell obsidian
#

I just now read the change log. Why did they nerf R9 Lu Wu? He was pretty easy already

carmine ermine
#

Probably the same reason they buff blessings.

#

People complain, they change random things.

shell obsidian
#

People are also complaining that a sandbox mode exists now. Some people just don't want others to be happy.

carmine ermine
#

Those people won't be heard.

shell obsidian
#

Yeah, they've been getting ratio'd from what I saw too lol

carmine ermine
#

Because the entire reason endless or sandbox exists in the first place is because other people are complaining.

shell obsidian
#

People are happy to play the harder mode and sandbox mode depending on the level of challenge they want

#

Many people play exclusively on creative mode on sandbox games

carmine ermine
#

Well this game isn't a sandbox.

#

It's a roguelite, one of the traditionally harder genres.

shell obsidian
#

I mean it is SORT of now? Or at least has a mode with sandbox elements

carmine ermine
#

It became equivalent to a sandbox when people kept complaining X Y Z was too hard or too weak, and the devs kept listening no matter how many times they appeased the players.

shell obsidian
#

I play Noita like a sandbox, and that's also a rogue lite. It's got infinite scaling and you can crash it by bypassing the interger limit. I think I just enjoy the procedural worlds/layouts

carmine ermine
#

Things have changed so much that now pretty much the only roguelite left of the game is the first 3 difficulties. That's it.

#

If they erased Normal, Elite and especially Nightmare difficulty, I wouldn't be surprised if it was met with applause for getting rid of the tedious stuff that is before the fun casual sandbox.

carmine ermine
shell obsidian
#

I usually just die to polymorph since there is no way to be immune to it. Kinda like how on gunfire I end up still dying to pyro lanterns even with spirit feline and other immunities just by being dumb.

#

But you are right

carmine ermine
#

Noita is still better at countering that than Gunfire.

clever folio
#

sorry for this being my first post but is endless mode broken for anyone else? like the portal not showing up? ):

carmine ermine
#

Noita you gotta do specific things like checking the world's seed with external tools so you know you can fungal shift away the polymorphine liquid.

Gunfire Reborn? Any death immunity will do.

shell obsidian
#

I usually just start random ones and look to make broken wands on noita

modest spoke
#

weapon lvl cap is 300 in endless/boundless right

modest spoke
#

noticed it around ~1100 stages

trim swan
#

Lol

dire jolt
trim swan
dire jolt
#

das alotta Miasma, batman.

karmic vault
#

Slap some Bloody Ammo on that and go to town.

dire jolt
#

for THAT?!

#

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

#

im using Thunder Storm >:3

mellow bear
#

4,454 million is 4.45 billion

shrewd meadow
#

...

#

can just change it to saying B

mellow bear
#

Nope

shrewd meadow
#

this is not confusing at all

mellow bear
#

Itโ€™s not. 4,454 million is 4.45 billion

trim swan
#

I can see how it might be confusing if the person doesn't bother to easily math out the format

shrewd meadow
#

< is literally a math teacher

#

but yeh sure all video games that did this in the same system for the past 3 decades were just wrong.

mellow bear
#

Youโ€™re a math teacher and didnโ€™t know 4,454 million is 4.454 billion?

shrewd meadow
#

I disagree with the usage of this cuz its confusing for 0 reason, especially with how US/EU have different uses for , and .

#

so saying B instead of M would solve that but yknow im not gonna argue

#

not gonna start saying Jeff bezoz networth is 4,454 million Dog_KEK

teal elbow
teal elbow
#

Ive been playing mostly solo for awhile anyone down to run some tomorrow? Iโ€™m getting off for the night

shell obsidian
#

Aura of Venom is one of my two favorite pistols. Far from my favorite weapon though.

teal elbow
#

Hexagon and mortar all the way

shell obsidian
#

Also, can't join any games cuz gotta wake up early to work Christmas Eve at the store I work at. Been wanting to play Boundless with a friend, but everyone is busy with Holidays too.

teal elbow
#

I got to the middle of the second world tonight on boundless reincarnation 9 with lone wolf p2 count

#

Was fun as heck

#

I havenโ€™t really been active in here for a while but ill try to start dropping in to grab teammates and talk more, disabled vet dad with joint custody so I game a crap ton.

karmic vault
#

A tour of my arsenal. Some weapons are for business, others for funny. I'd like to make funny guns out of Woodpecker, Bloody Drill, and just most of the shotguns but real estate is at a low.

earnest minnow
#

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

#

Shout out to @ruby token

ruby token
#

The All Ascension With @earnest minnow

earnest minnow
true ivy
#

Holy shit

dire jolt
#

lol you guys are having too much fun with boundless. meanwhile I'm rocking another endless run and now im at 25minutes at level 64

true ivy
#

fast

glad iris
#

is there a channel for support that i could go to?

spice forum
#

#1060159100006178816 ?

karmic vault
#

I'm at stage 450 of Boundless. I hear the enemy damage resistance cap is 90%, but does health of regular enemies and bosses also get capped at some point?

shell obsidian
karmic vault
#

Oh hype.

tulip steppe
#

but enemy hp is now uncapped

shell obsidian
#

Oh, I misunderstood then, sorry

#

I haven't reached the 90% cap yet

trim swan
#

if it was 99% then we'll be dealing 1 each

shell obsidian
#

Fair

carmine ermine
#

Not that this would stop us.

#

We'd be hitting the damage cap despite it.

shell obsidian
spice forum
#

Painkiller + Elemental Maestro + Smogbound + Pyro 3 + Acid 3 + Talisman 3 and a Flame Conversion Revealer

#

Its nuts

#

Well

#

There is the elemental power scroll

#

๐Ÿ™ƒ

granite onyx
#

I like elemental builds, who should i be playing, im always li zi xiao and i feel i do alot of elemental

shell obsidian
#

Prince (all three elements), Li (fire is her primary but she can work with any for elemental combos), Lei Luo (lightning and crits are his main thing)