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Did you know that gunfire is actually a walking simulator?
Walking moment
Having only the independent fortunes of paranormality and flesh and bones should be forbidden haha
I done that once, it's a bit silly
Planning to get 1000 without any strat like that
And it's going well lol

Nice, what strat are you using for it?
Crown Prince 2.0
Probably might push above 1000
And what is crown prince 2.0?
Crown Prince got a rework
oh lol I didnt even see that
elemental maestro
Yeah that got redone ๐
ignoring elemental dmg is very very good for shredding high dr enemies
Yeah it is dumb
just gonna thunder storm it out?
no way....
probably for the best that gun was the most braindead thing ive ever used in this game
Yeah you need some what of a brain to use it now
Ah that's a shame, I havent played with the thunder storm much yet...
sadly I dont have one
It is stilk good but it don't aimbot every thing in existence
Okay, atleast still useable
i stopped picking it up bc the gun wasnt even fun or challenging
it had novelty the first few times bc it was funny but then it got boring
i LOVE the hoops man
with painkiller its such goofy shit
It so much fun, makes me like I am a sort of avatar
fr
i might try foundry TAO
I did it and I will continue
Same, but with Lei Luo! Max all the things!
im still going to do endless =w="
That's why the 2 modes exist
Never knew Crown Prince was, uh. Viable by any measure.
He was still viable regardless
He's a pretty good character ore patch
But for some silly reason he's buffed by a long shot
Because becoming a god isn't good enough anymore.
Gunfire reborn character try not to be absolutely busted challenge
(Nightmare difficulty)
He was probably the easiest hero to clear the game, not including endless
yo anyone having a bug with the rainbow where the rof infinitly goes up
i was gonna make a post in the issues thread but idk if this bug has existed forever or somethng
5320 rof to 5410
Huh, so that's what that Sword Mastery buff meant.
Well, that's another hero frame that just got made easier to achieve. Now instead of level 3 of either Sword Shadow or Luminous Heart, and level 2 of the other...
Now you just need Sword Shadow 2 and Sword Mastery.
crown prince is straight up insane
with painkiller you melt shit
so i just saw patch notes. Li was op and now even more op? i did not test it yet tough
isnt this a bit insane
The Raging Inferno one might actually be the "1 Nerf Quota" of the update.
It's the same bonus, but with a limited duration instead of a missing (somehow) penalty, and requires you to use energy to gain stacks.
Flame Dance and Energy Draining definitely got buffed however.
I dunno how b'ys are looking at the First Strike spiritual ascension like "yeah that's fine and fair and balanced"
No one looks at spiritual blessings and thinks they're fine and fair and balanced.
anyone know how to fix the screen res window mode issue?
got to kill gluttony during his "invicibility" state
I wish the enemy damage resistance would stack alot faster
Huh, you ended at the same stage I did last night
Thank the people who asked for it.
I mean people don't /have/ to play that mode
Doing Boundless journey, at stage 49 and yeah.. i gotta say boundless is too easy
ive yet to feel any challenge im so broken
Sounds like par for the course, to be honest. Exactly what people want.
You hit them really hard.
but isnt cap 45m?
The cap is 10m. Some things bypass it.
Idk if this was already figured but (for at least in boundless) bosses go past the health cap
At roughly 311
With 2.19 billion
been grinding in endless for a while trying to get a good rainbow for le bunny, which of these should i keep and which do i reroll?
Giant slayer is one way to break the dmg cap in endless, its just magic
Isn't that the scroll that only does 2000 damage at most?
i thought giant slayer did like 2k damage max? are you thinking of final judgement, or am i schizophrenic?
Its supposed to cap at like 5k ye, but funky code lets it bypass that sometimes
that's so funky
Quite some more funky things i discovered
I thought it was only 2k (apparently it scales with number of players in the squad though from what the wiki says)
yeah its 2k x squadcount
or smth like that
anyway someone with more intelligence than me help me out here which of these rainbows is superior (for the arsenal)
2k single player, or 5x * squad number... which means even having one other player means it does 10k as a cap instead?
and 20k if 4 player game
Oh wait, non enhanced is 2k
enhanced is 5k * squad number
And the 20k CAN bypass damage cap
And fish and bear paw allows it to activate twice simultanously, essentially dealing 40k
Good thing I have enhanced giant slayer
Just having fun with Boundless
Idk if endless scaling has changed in anyway but you have to go a looooong time before you start seeing very funny boss health in R9 Boundless
I don't mind scaling happening slower but jeez, you don't hit the old health cap until the 300s...
Ye, R9 Boundless is pretty easy, but it's also fun just using playing around with it
I do wish they kept the training master in, but I'm happy enough just being able to get every goblet lol
Maybe just have him be rarer to encounter ideally, but still possible
I maxed out my primary ascension last for Crown Prince
Don't even need it
Rn bosses are at 2.5 ish billion and I'm still destroying them in less than a second 
I like how on Lei Luo I don't even need to attack half the time, the passive lightning arcs just kill everything as I walk into rooms
Or thunder bolts rather?
My elemental ring scrolls are dealing busted damage lol
Yeah, don't they go up in damage per ascension level?
Base dmg yeag
There is 48 points you can put on ascensions in total, so that times the base damage of the rings... x3 rings
Plus miasma damage, explosion damage
54 if you include Ascension Fusion.
Yeah, that's gonna do a lot lol
And element nova moment
OH, good point
My rings are doing millions a tick
Cuz I'm definitely gonna have 2 ascension fusions now whenever I play this mode lol
enhanced also trigger on crits
meaning you can rapidly fire them with certain weapons
Probably don't even need that.
The spiritual link drops the cooldown from 6s to 1.5s, while the crit rings still have a CD of 1s.
Aah, so not quite so rapid, but still fast
i love the elemental rings
Most people do lol
with painkiller they FUCK
I love hitting Damage cap at round 20 
With both going at the same time at the fastest speed, you'd get an equivalent of 0.6s cooldown per ring.
Do you even need pain killer if you get all 3 rings?
yes
painkiller makes effects on you positive AND any effects you apply with weapond deal all
Fair point!
painkiller FUCKS
Eh, realistically Painkiller would only do something with the first 2 rings that hit an enemy, and Magnetic Coil.
also i love First Strike its so funky
The explosion damage is based off what applied the damage from what I was reading
From the elemental combo I mean
if you have Deft Hands you can max out the bonus most of the time
Meaning painkiller allows more damage than you can get from the rings
Why does flowing wind bring me from 60% - 73% dr?
you can stack Combustion so youd apply it repeatedly too, afaik
not fast enough
bro what ๐
youll get 80% with speed bonus scrolls
flowing wind grants up to 20% dmg resistance based on movement speed
don't you fucking dare ๐ me
Does player damage resistance cap at 90%?
I noticed last night I couldn't get it higher for some reason

yeah its 90%
what?
ok so
if you have 60 dmg resistance already
and get flowing wind
Then you need speed bonuses to go up to 80%
what daa heell
Yeah, it won't always provide the 20%
isn't dr multiplicative
so in this case, to max out the bonus, you need scrolls to boost the speed
no it isnt?
It is not
DR is a flat number which becomes a % as the stat
Did they change it?
My DR rn is -2588% ๐
It didn't get changed, just made more clear with a visible stat from what I read
no
BASED
No, it definitely was multiplicative before
It got changed.
Dual edge? lol
That reminds me, I need to update a wiki page at some point.
no, i have no idea what crack you're smoking but it was not
When was this?
Around when Endless Journey was added.
unless you mean the -X% dmg taken
Based giga chad?!?!?!? 1/#?!
those are different from resistance
Many bonuses went from -X% DMG Taken to +X% DMG Resistance.
why not enhance your fuckin dual edge tho ๐ญ
Some still remain, but most were changed.
Spirit Feline means it doesn't matter as much, assuming he has that
yea but still
the gaslighting is crazy ๐ญ
gaslighting?
I don't need to fam
i mean, if you don't like the answers, go test them yourself
It was still a percentage stat, it just got changed in how it was applied
It essentially serves same function
Gluttony has 1.9 Trillion shield in his ultimate attack on Round 354 ๐
o ma gawd
The suck?
Yeah the succ
the cap is gone
imagine in endless now
Oh god
faster scaling
BUT DAMAGE CAP ISNT???
Next wave of complaints: "Remove damage cap!!!"
I'm 1000 ing Boundless then after a break, going back to 1000 endless one more time with the New Crown Prince rework
IM GONNA FUCKING BURN DOWN DUOYI
Please explain to me, if i go from 60% to 73%, am i taking 1/3 less damage?
@tulip steppe
I'm not exactly that great at math, but you're taking an extra 13% less damage... on top of your already 60%? Are you asking how much that specific difference is in terms of being applied on top of the 60%?
I'm not quite sure what specifically was being asked
at 60%, you're taking 0.4x damage, if you're at 73%, you're taking 0.27x damage
so no
That means it's an effective 33% multiplicative damage reduction, which means dr is most certainly not functioning as it did prior.
I'm taking whatever the fuck -2624% damage is 
for the better, then
Now drop spirit feline and test it (don't actually do that though)
I did it at my 1000 endless run and a coyote did like 140k on me
is it damage resistance or is it stacked on top of a 90% damage resistance
so ends up being 99% or such
Been an unbalanced issue since it was added.
I didn't see my number change, so I assumed it was applied on top
Yeah, brief 99% resistance, cuz it scales on top
thats so unfathomably fucking stupid i love it
you could bunny hop, yes, I realize
wait
does DMG taken cap at 90
not resistance, taken
DMG Resistance caps at 90%
Damage resistance caps at 90%, but can infinitely scale to negative I think
DMG Taken, being multiplicative, didn't cap.
If it was at 100% then you'd be taking 1s only
As far as we know.
Pretty sure
this was my best enhanced run in endless not BOUNDLESS. :v
if it doesnt cap at 90 you could essentailly have 100 with midair strike + painkiller lightning
coulda kept going but i died of boredom
i ASSUME lightning painkiller is -10% dmg taken
Taken is multiplicative. It will never reach 100% unless something gives 100%.
I don't die of boredom
Resistance is additive, which would be able to reach 100% with smaller bonuses if it wasn't for the 90% cap.
enhanced brief respite swap spam
I just use scroll wheel
Windrider fans: 
thanks to enhanced dual edge, i never really got reduced in damage
i was always at 90%
so it'd be 91% with painkiller lightning and an enhanced mid air strike?
I WANT negative DR
Yes.
Because I'm fucking mad
no u dont
Yes I do
ur just coping
I think the intent is eventually dropping spirit and dying to an enemy intentionally with a massive hit
Again lol
endless enemies will eventually start doing 10k+ damage so youll need veteran to even work with that
is it even possible to go the dmg resistance route instead of spirit feline
i mean that's fine n all :v
What is the max hp you can get from veteran? Assuming I just grinded until it hit the limit
Spirit Feline: 
2.147 billion i assume
Probably 60000
then 65535
Since stack scrolls cap there
60000*
Stack Scrolls cap at 60k
At least it's definitely the case for Extravagant Consumption
yeah um thats not a very good prospect
might be more for others, who knows
I doubt I'd grind to get my hp that high, but I can imagine that would be a funny screen cap
It's pointless to rely on veteran when you can just get spirit feline
yup
I'm at 10k health with veteran barely hitting 1000 rn
6 million with mid air strike enhanced + 90% DR
I mainly use it cuz it's just fun to see the number go up
Cookie clicker logic
i got oneshot by a pyro lantern at 600hp with spirit feline yesterday
fuck lanterns
can spirit feline bug out and not activate?
thats my motto
i feel like that happened
More likely the fire effect on the ground killed you
Or simultanous explosions
You heal from Burning, not fire damage.
what
The ground effect from Pyro Lanterns is still capable of killing you even with spirit feline. That's usually how I die with spirit. Lanterns suck.
im gonna fucking kill myself i had that happen like THREE FUCKING TIMES at this point
The fire pools hit you with a chance to inflict Burning.
Depends. How many did you kill in that one spot?
at most two
Elemental damage and elemental effects aren't the same thing
yes, they are not
Shout out to @ruby token and @velvet ginkgo for the early carry
hp is capped at 2.whateverBil as there was a bird bug that allowed for infinite health gain
Health cap is not the same as scroll cap
Veteran's health increase is specific to the scroll bonus
o shit what
what was the bug
and does it still work
sounds funny
i kinda wanted to pick up bird as a secondary
he has some hella nice ascensions
Was a bug combining Flesh and Bones, Birb's Oppressor blessing and percent-based self damage like Bloody Ammo or Capacity Overdraft.
whats oppressor
all sentences has WAS
I only care for one birb, and that is Zi Xiao
how silly
owl 
Basically, every time you took damage to HP, you gained max Armor.
Max Armor would convert to Max HP. This would further increase the cap, letting you get even more Max Armor.
Oh, that sounds broken lol
Keep going and going with self-inflicted damage until you hit the integer limit.
I did say integer limit.
i mean, does it stay increasdd
I assume this was patched out long ago?
Pretty much.
Seems too busted to keep that, as fun as that would have been
Unfortunately, it was basically worthless on Birb unless you had Enduring Caster or Thorny Carapace.
why?
Because ironically, Birb is the hero who has the least trouble not dying.
oh
lmfao
i die but i (usually) have iron wing so like
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
... wait
what does Pair Of Us on nona do for damage again?
Iron Wing gets damage based on Iron Wing's max HP.
Iron Wing also scales off skill damage naturally
o shi
Self rez from iron wing is nice, but passively lightning shooting everywhere, rapid fire elemental homing cards and hellfire rain or shooting literal burning foxes is a ton of fun too
oh what, so skill damage bonuses give him more damage?
Only one ascension fusion?
Mhm
Even mentions in the character description
is there a way to give iron wing over 2k hp
i dont read those

i only picked nona bc funny mech
Iron Wing's hp is capped sadly
But damage is not
Err
besides the regular limit
Most of the fusion are peepeepoopoo
no they aint wtf you mean
fusion FUCKS
But you can cap 'em all. Wound up with bad ones?
Iron Wing's HP is capped at the talent bonus, the Wood Armor bonus and max ascensions.
There is 0 reason on boundless not to take 2 fusions lol
what you meaan same bonus am i reading it wrong? 15 per stack for 10 stack is 150% and 45% for per stack and 10 stack 450%
Side, i didn't aim to have all
ok so in endless ill need Counterviolence + Painkiller + Pair of Us
Just lucky enought to got carried throu
Endless still limits goblets, right?
Yes
Now decays on a timer instead of a missed cast (which is hard to do). Also no longer gains stacks when casting below 30 energy.
to be fair seems more fun and more powerful to me
it was 30 stack
The damage bonus is exactly the same.
how tough?
i hate this game
The one that game gave me aren't compatable with her
Sips
It used to be 15% * 30 stacks = 450%.
Not the Fusion are bad
Now it's 45% * 10 stacks = 450%.
oh sorry i'm blind XD
You just now have to cast good Spiritual Flames to stack it, and you can't just idle around anymore.
okay than it is good balance
oh fair enough, imagine getting elemental rage and pyrodominance tho 
as a Li player at least from teory i'm happy with it
thanks for correction i read it wrong
for skill builds, fusion acensions are rather useless
what i was unhappy about weapon based Li tough
weapon li is so strong
OH, okay so it is very tiny nerf... still means spirit flame can do the big hits, just gotta actually have energy built up to get that bonus now
i never able to make it as strong as skill Li
that how i already play so
depends... something like close call or elemental stuff (does li's skill cause fire damage?) could be helpful
oops
youโll figure it out
close combat*
Li's skills are all fire damage, and can apply burning effect
i love close comabt, such a silly ascension
Skill damage AND elemental damage bonuses help her skill
seems like Li not ment to play pure weapon tough
you can
you can do everything but that not what i'm talking about
use Fire wepons and its easy
seems like when you go skill Li you can just stack skill power but when you go weapon Li you stack both
do rainbow and kill everything
I play Li with pure weapon sometimes, I just play with one that triggers the secondary skill when you use the weapon
My friend plays pure Thunder Storm Li and he reached far in endless
Her lucky shot bonus ascension is also nice
that is what i'm talking about weapon Li is more like hybrid Li
All characters are
thats just how her kit works
no
He only quit because he got bored so I think Li only weapon is pretty good
weapon bonuses of other character is way superiour
owl can shoot cards, monkey uses skill to increase weapon damage, li calls down meteors, lei luo shoots lightning, etc
again you talking about what they can do
more like fire storm with da gemini honestly
i think the critX gemini is the most broken ngl
Okay yeah, so all characters CAN be hybrid of skill and weapon
true
its not
but what i'm saying character design of Li weapon part is looks like ment to play hybrid
Elemental Rage, Pyrodominance, Electrodominance, Adrenal Rush, Close Call, Close Combat, Last Stand, Shadow Knight, Wave Rider, Solid Shell, Aura Protection, Total Eradication, Furious Flame, Flame Talisman and Battle Pace can all still help with skill builds.
That's 15/29 Ascension Fusion choices.
then what is
Magshare
Wave rider is my favorite because I dash a lot
is it really?
It's not much of a bonus, but it's still more speed
yes
when i play other weapon character i give skill scrolls to my friends when i play weapon li i hoard everything XD
you get 3/4 of your magsize as dmg
see that is where i'm talking about she ment to played as hybrid
That reminds me I probably need to do my magshare build for endless when I get to it, don't really need shared elements if I'm running Painkiller
hmm i wonder how well does this work with First Strike
it does well
whats the biggest mag possible in the game?
as a stat stick its 250ish
i love the critx gemini on flamethrower tho
yeah, mag is better then
also also i'm super super glad for Smogbound Zone change
I've seen a 256 star ring before
i was trying to make it work so many times in our group i never able to deal good enough damage XD
its up to the Expanded % roll
new version seems quite good
My friend had 1024 in a magazine before somehow while we were playing together. He was playing the dog and dual wielding and each launcher had that. Not sure how he did that.
its now his strongest blessing
I think so, I have a Big Hippo with 251 and it's not expanded
"+50% Elemental DMG taken and +100% elemental effect chance of enemies when they are in the area of smoke grenade." that part sound so good
its a multiplier of dmg and a guarantee of procs for all

i dont think gurantee
I don't play dog that much but that sounds like an ascension
Launchers generally have small magazines
because it say +100% not 100%
That, or it was some weird bug that gave him a massive magazine size when dual wielding
Like the gemini doubled over itself or something
i am unsure, canโt check atm
also doesnt matter both way is good XD
even just doubling elemental chance is huge
1000 stacks for shared mags is broken
well, a laser glove going to 10% or 105% matters a little
doesnt matter in context of both 100% and +100% is good
I love when I find weapons with over 100% elemental affect chance lol
whats the highest critX possible tho
Owl, i had 60x something
imagine armed caster with that
WHAR
no fucking way
what
how
i thought my 10.2x crit flamer was good ๐ญ
how ? more like why XD
that is barely good you not even trying XD
funny
when i go armed caster at least 12x is bare minimum XD
how in the living name of fk
easy actually
i mean ig you can have 2 bricks
brick has the highest critx, no?
i think you need to hit things with it
to have high crit
i dont have time for that XD
and get a few crit scroll
and get crit gemini and you done
no, i mean base crit
i swear i saw one with 6.6x
Glazed Sight + Hawkeye Sight what you need
mfw i play flesh and bones
than enjoy free 0.5x
if you go that way you probably high have hp and Enduring Caster
what's enduring caster
hp to skill power. Bigger muscle you have better fireball you cast XD
Gain skill damage based on your max HP and Shield/Armor.
oh yea that
in Turkish we have a saying healthy/sturdy brain belong to healthy/sturdy body XD
so if you wanna be mage go to gym my friend
Probably not as much as other heroes.
also i love Fight for Immortality with flesh and bones
quite a bit
iron wing fire version is waaay to strong to the point last time we played my friend bored
Nona doesn't really have much of an incentive to increase max HP and Shield/Armor.
so that how i stop playing it XD
if i have say 500 hp itll double his damage
hm okay
Why make yourself tougher when you can just revive?
my skill bases fire turret nona was literally deleting everything before we see them of 4 team max difficulty
so that how my group bored and decite to not to do that again XD
dont like turret mode tbh
yeah my friends are not fan of it either XD
down penalty stacks ;-;
seems like they wanna play too
strike mode is funnier
is fire mode THAT good
mecha drop.
that good? bru we ban that character because of me XD
3 words. Shoulder Cannon Upgrade.
mecha drop si one of the silliest thingy
i'm not joking it literally delte everything
I've never played Nona and I know that Fire Mode is absurd.
i play with that on solo for farming when watching youtube
alrite
because everytime you drop your turret it trigger it and when you have good cooldown reduction oh boi XD
do i have to spam hardwood missile with it?
also after you stack enough skills and perk or however it was written it go crazy
wait i just realized, resilient life is hella good with capacity overdraft or bloody ammo, no?
no
better if you do
but no XD
turret mode is basically where you can use hardwood missiles without use it
turrent use it for you
so you dont have to deal secondary usage problem
wait do hardwood missile buffs for nona also apply to missiles launched by iron wing?
hell yeah it is
that is why it is abusrtly strong
it melt things so fast you dont even need to shoot hardwood yourself except bosses
and some high hp enemies
there were some enemies have higher hp than bosses XD
or felt like it
even Mastery help fire mod (60% attack speed) not that great compare to others but good when you dont have other options
Heat Core, Missile Storm, Shoulder Cannon Upgrade are what you need
on top of that you can get mastery, Nimble Finger for extra damage
and that how you get weapon of mass destrucation
aka fire mode
also that how your friends get bored from game because they cant see enemies XD
enemies what is that XD
gunfire reborn the walking simulator XD
deadly counter is alone is extremly strong
i had a run where i keep constantly attacking with two shotgun with ao with infinite dual wielding duration and non stop self buffs because of self harm
dealdy counter + bloody ammo was part of it
also because i were self harming i had crazy high hp regen and hp XD
in poe it is called self cast loop XD or something like that where you hurt yourself and because of that tons of things happen
it is good
wild hunt
yeah
also normally i use that weapon with my auto clicker mouse XD
my mouse have a button on it that basically when hold spam left mouse click
good to use with weapons you need to click lmb constantly
cheater! /j
skill issue get a good mouse XD
also work on others games too
if i remember there is even a disasese caused by excess usage of finger like that XD
better protect your finger
im happy with my 16 buttons thanks
that a bit excessive but okay that sound good too
i have a mmo mouse
so you can use your foot
silly
i mean we pianist do that already
you can have a feet controller XD
to trigger more stuff
hand eye coordination old you also need hand eye feet coordination XD
your x and d keys are gonna wear out soon
can it go over 60
is that the crit cap
you can do more???
Did they add an extra 0 for skill dmg on recycle or something
Speedrunners love fire mode
got it, guess ill try it lmao
it seemed weak to me
The new boundless mode lets you pick all of your ascensions plus the fusion ones, you get an ascension every time you kill a boss in it
Seriously? although why when i pick up a goblet it requires me to giveup one talent to level up another one
Are you referring to a goblet that is specificlaly dropped?
Yeah, elite boss goblets and end of the act goblets still require you to do that, it's only the goblet that the boss drops
current boundless dream run using the Atomic Bomb build, which at this stage is kind of redundant, but i am now just getting repeated scrolls and slowly getting all my scrolls to their enhanced version.... the game still refuses to give me Dual Edge.
Yeah, same thing happened to me and now it's just white noise to me
they need to scale the enemies a bit better in boundless dream for each stage you get passed
i was just able to forcefully lower Gluttony's shield and kill him when he was in his vacuum mode XD and i did this with the grenades XD
my highest from a while back
i just gave a fire trap 100% fire procs and it combusted the room to smithereens
Smogbound is indeed 100% flat chance to proc elements
ioa
okay so theres another thread ok
can someone explain what in the seventh hells is endless journey ?
before the recent update it would have a portal in the last stage to loop
now it does nothing and i wasted 2 runs a total of nearly 3 hours wanting to loop to get teh achievements but the gate dont spawn in the end
did you have it turned on?
yes
we thought maybe we messed up
so we did another run with it on and we checked carefully
we go to the end
nope
not tried endless now, only done some boundless
it worked b4 the last update
ye, played it
I haven't tried endless since this update lol
I wasn't gonna
๐ญ im so mad
I'm in the middle of a Boundless run to 1000
i just want the last 2 achievements
It sounds like people can't play endless journey?
can i get the same achievements by doing boundless?
tho the text in them says endless so i guess not
hhhhhhhhhh im done wiht this game for a while now
i guess you can
doubt that it wouldn't work
@edgy lodge Li gets to keep injectors as the 100% from smogbound doesn't apply to them
classic injector jank
Endless is for the achievements
Meaning R9 and the extra modifier on
BUT not the boundless on as well
that can mess with it
Welp, just got a screenshot of 2 guns at 360% elemental effect chance lmao
do they apply elemental effect THRICE
like, do they fuckin proc e.g. combustion 3 times
I didn't get extravaganza consumption until stage 97 but had dual edge since 40. Even with repeating scrolls sometimes it doesn't always give new ones first.
yeah, game refuses to give me Dual Edge XD
H
So opposite scroll same issue
I don't mind getting extravagant consumption at a later stage
I can just upgrade it to an enhanced if that's the case
both is kinda... eh?
There is a money cap
And rich privileges
Bro is saying extravagant is meh?
Extravagant consumption and dual edge goes way further than rich's and unfettered will
Due to the money cap
I have every cursed scroll
im saying BOTH unfettered will and extravagant consumption is meh
on their own theyre nice
bro is on the spiritual link grind
Oh you mean I'm combo. It's still extra damage even if greatly reduced.
now engance your ostrich rider and fleshnbones
i'm getting about 30,000 copper in each stage so having unfettered will, Rich's privilidges and Extravagant consumption is nice
yeah, just gotta kill enough bosses
but extravagant consumption spends your copper once you switch stage...
yeah, but that's fine
since there is a cap of 65,500 copper that you can have on hand it's fine
You earn money fast by recycling in later stages. Weapons are high level.
yeah, each recycled weapon is like 2000 and the scrolls are around there as well
plus i have jackpot
Money scales with level on dream (possibly also endless?) which makes it easier to handle later.
this was my count
uh oke
dang
Repeating cursed scrolls was nice
now drop evil banishing talisman
At best it would like
Decrease my movement speed by trifold
And get rid of my elemental
does this also share the elemental mods or just elemental hit chance?
like dmg agains burning enemies etc..
@sand bobcat just curious why dont you have a higher ele chance weapon on side
In my experience I never saw things like x element orb on crit, it was only the effect being applied. I can't confirm anything about the damage buffs to specific elements though I'm feeling they likely also don't apply.
this only gives the % chance to deal the element of the other weapon and its effectiveness against their respective defense to the other weapon
If you have no element on weapon A and share element with an Aura of Venom , weapon A now has increased effectiveness against armor instead of reduced and 40% chance to cause decay
Thats it
IE makes weapons act like fire against hp, lightning against shield, corrosion against armor?
It isnt a corrosive weapon suddenly and still deals normal weapon dmg and wont benefit from increased elemental dmg
Yes it would do that Javeloz
Aah so elemental advantage is the type of effectiveness but without the element change
They dont gain the element but only its debuff and its offensive bonus
I forget... is the sand worm boss the only one with armor?
so far
because i've been murdering mobs just fine so it hasn't really been a concern tbh
xd
i'll find a corrosion weapon with higher elemental effect chance and swap it just to test out if there is any change with this build
almost maxed out my copper in a single stage
gonna test now
i can't tell if it's making a difference having teh higher chance on the off side weapon
i did 4 endless runs ina row
and no polar monarch
is there a secret to getting him ?
just random
endless or boundless ?
boundless
thats random
(endless is broken it doesnt loop anymore and the devs dont know)
endless guarantees the other boss the second time
does the boundless work for the last 2 achievements for endless ?
yeah except endless is broken :)
3 times so far wtih endless journey mode
the loop doesnt show up in the end
that doesnt change the fact
so u cant loop
Yes
but not being able to loop doesnt change the fact that thats one of the differences between boundless and endless
I figured out how to tell what boss it'll be during the 4th act
would the achievement work in boundless
Its endless
Probably not, the achievement only says Endless
They always find a way
to break things?
Mhmm
also man
iv had
so many runs lately and the end never polar monarch always the other guy , even without endless just normal with friends
finally got it after killing the Polar Monarch
Nice
Spores is so ridiculous
loop number like
10
and no polar monarch
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another loop, nope
i gave up lol
i like how after my buffs for dual edg en other things got 1000+ all text became chinese
Is Porcupine not the more efficient offhand shotgun? I know Hell has the exclusive projectile inscription but I thought Porcupine was higher, still.
yeah but hell has 2.625 times the damage
Does the damage off the offhand matter for spores?
Yes
Argus is the best for that
porcupine is down the list compared to other shotguns
Porcupine is like... 2nd worst in terms of damage.
Hell (exclusive), Argus, Wild Hunt, Hell, Wheel Saw, Pupil, Porcupine, Illusion.
that element chance though
o. I thought it was just the sum of projectiles.
P= projectile count
D=weapon damage
Spore damage=
((D1 * P1)+(D2 * P2))/(P1+P2) * 20
If you do a bit of mathing around then on average spores adds
2/3 * (P1 * P2)/(P1+P2) * (D1+D2) damage to every shot on average
Here's a detailed breakdown for the one of the most common spore builds Rainbow + Argus
notably it doesn't matter which of the two weapons is the one to have a high damage as they both will always contribute the same % of their total damage (including projectiles) to the spore proc damage
If only the enhanced bonus was also lucky shot lol
Very informative. More so than what the game itself conveys. The fandom wiki seems to be a bit spotty on details like this, as well. Is there a copendium of mechanics knowledge out there or is it just bits and pieces worked on throughout this server's life?
tbh I learned most of it just by playing and picking up bits and pieces on discord, reddit and the wiki
the wiki does have the formula for spores but not a detailed breakdown of how weapon choice affects the behaviour
That is crazy the gun has max lucky shot on its own
Not cap but max as in red
Oh the red numbers mean lucky is maxed? I was wondering what that was
It means you have triple lucky shot or higher.
I thought red meant it was quadruple
Ah
it's too cool to just let go off. But now it takes up a space in my vault.
Man I wish we had more vault slots
I'm dying for an expanded arsenal, too.
Expanded arsenal would be nice. No reason there can't be a scroll bar to get more. Could add that as a suggestion?
Taking the screenshot sounds like it would achieve the same result in this case.
AKA the weapon is cool, but you're probably not gonna use it because it's a gimmick.
That reminds me, I think the arsenal bugged out and removed one of my weapons when I ended my boundless mode
I only took out two weapons and gave both of them imprints, and I don't know which one it bugged out
I just now read the change log. Why did they nerf R9 Lu Wu? He was pretty easy already
Probably the same reason they buff blessings.
People complain, they change random things.
People are also complaining that a sandbox mode exists now. Some people just don't want others to be happy.
Those people won't be heard.
Yeah, they've been getting ratio'd from what I saw too lol
Because the entire reason endless or sandbox exists in the first place is because other people are complaining.
People are happy to play the harder mode and sandbox mode depending on the level of challenge they want
Many people play exclusively on creative mode on sandbox games
Well this game isn't a sandbox.
It's a roguelite, one of the traditionally harder genres.
I mean it is SORT of now? Or at least has a mode with sandbox elements
It became equivalent to a sandbox when people kept complaining X Y Z was too hard or too weak, and the devs kept listening no matter how many times they appeased the players.
I play Noita like a sandbox, and that's also a rogue lite. It's got infinite scaling and you can crash it by bypassing the interger limit. I think I just enjoy the procedural worlds/layouts
Things have changed so much that now pretty much the only roguelite left of the game is the first 3 difficulties. That's it.
If they erased Normal, Elite and especially Nightmare difficulty, I wouldn't be surprised if it was met with applause for getting rid of the tedious stuff that is before the fun casual sandbox.
Also Noita is very, very different to Gunfire Reborn. That game is designed to be a sandbox because there is literally nothing stopping you from going anywhere except what is in your pockets. It's also designed to be broken because it's got many things to counter broken builds. Heck, the biggest counter to many builds is the player themselves.
I usually just die to polymorph since there is no way to be immune to it. Kinda like how on gunfire I end up still dying to pyro lanterns even with spirit feline and other immunities just by being dumb.
But you are right
Noita is still better at countering that than Gunfire.
sorry for this being my first post but is endless mode broken for anyone else? like the portal not showing up? ):
Noita you gotta do specific things like checking the world's seed with external tools so you know you can fungal shift away the polymorphine liquid.
Gunfire Reborn? Any death immunity will do.
I forgot that was an option on noita... guess you can become pretty busted on any rogue like that let you use it like a sandbox ๐ค
I usually just start random ones and look to make broken wands on noita
weapon lvl cap is 300 in endless/boundless right
the cap bugs at some point lol https://i.imgur.com/yQ6ckdO.jpeg
noticed it around ~1100 stages
Lol
bruh, lol wot
oh you mean my star ring :3c

das alotta Miasma, batman.
Slap some Bloody Ammo on that and go to town.
4,454 million is 4.45 billion
Nope
this is not confusing at all
Itโs not. 4,454 million is 4.45 billion
I can see how it might be confusing if the person doesn't bother to easily math out the format
< is literally a math teacher
but yeh sure all video games that did this in the same system for the past 3 decades were just wrong.
Youโre a math teacher and didnโt know 4,454 million is 4.454 billion?
I disagree with the usage of this cuz its confusing for 0 reason, especially with how US/EU have different uses for , and .
so saying B instead of M would solve that but yknow im not gonna argue
not gonna start saying Jeff bezoz networth is 4,454 million 
yee
I love this gun gotten a lot of funky builds with different characters
Ive been playing mostly solo for awhile anyone down to run some tomorrow? Iโm getting off for the night
Aura of Venom is one of my two favorite pistols. Far from my favorite weapon though.
Hexagon and mortar all the way
Also, can't join any games cuz gotta wake up early to work Christmas Eve at the store I work at. Been wanting to play Boundless with a friend, but everyone is busy with Holidays too.
I got to the middle of the second world tonight on boundless reincarnation 9 with lone wolf p2 count
Was fun as heck
I havenโt really been active in here for a while but ill try to start dropping in to grab teammates and talk more, disabled vet dad with joint custody so I game a crap ton.
A tour of my arsenal. Some weapons are for business, others for funny. I'd like to make funny guns out of Woodpecker, Bloody Drill, and just most of the shotguns but real estate is at a low.
Holy shit
lol you guys are having too much fun with boundless. meanwhile I'm rocking another endless run and now im at 25minutes at level 64
fast
is there a channel for support that i could go to?
#1060159100006178816 ?
I'm at stage 450 of Boundless. I hear the enemy damage resistance cap is 90%, but does health of regular enemies and bosses also get capped at some point?
Was 90%, supposedly it goes up to 99% now
Oh hype.
is still 90%
but enemy hp is now uncapped
if it was 99% then we'll be dealing 1 each
Fair
My two favorite weapons!
Painkiller + Elemental Maestro + Smogbound + Pyro 3 + Acid 3 + Talisman 3 and a Flame Conversion Revealer
Its nuts
Well
There is the elemental power scroll
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I like elemental builds, who should i be playing, im always li zi xiao and i feel i do alot of elemental
Prince (all three elements), Li (fire is her primary but she can work with any for elemental combos), Lei Luo (lightning and crits are his main thing)
