Just turn on Boundless Dream. Easy to achieve with that.
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next cloud
hi if a scroll says it increases dmg dealt is that all dmg dealt or just weapon damage?
main forum
The scroll should specify if it affects a certain type of damage, E.G spirit bible increases skill damage but not weapon or elemental damage.
If it doesn't specify any type all damage types should be affected. E.G. double edge.
tropic kindle
languid ermine
Is there anywhere to look at builds?
warm iron
So when you transition stages, you auto collect and sell anything left behind..
Does it also sell weapons that are left in vaults?
coarse sundial
So when you transition stages, you auto collect and sell anything left behind..
Yes
Also I assume yes with vaults
coarse sundial
I love the quality of life but I'm always paranoid about vaults..
Nah it should do the same
warm iron
Just got a stage with a lot of weapon drops.. time to test once and for all
1968 gold and ~6 weapons in the vault
2650, yeah it definitively sells the vault stuff.
warm iron
Is there anywhere to look at builds?
To my knowledge, youtube has a lot of resources. Find a youtuber who has a similar playing style (eg. like aggressive player or sniper play, etc etc). Otherwise, you can probably just ask. Most of us has a lot of knowledge and are willing to help out.
Any specific character or style you're curious about?
half kestrel
cobalt dock
kinda use any, he has slight favor of using 1 mag weapons
delicate pendant
This is where the fun begins
languid ermine
Any specific character or style you're curious about?
I’m liking the fox chick
warm iron
Well, general tips for her would be that she's pretty squishy and doesn't exactly have any mobility to speak of. Her secondary can be used for stagger but other than that, you're either killing them quickly or struggling. You also don't need to use fire weapons since fusion effects are pretty consistent using her primary and secondary. Slap on some lightning damage and you got consistent perma stun in manipulation. Her primary is also stupidly strong. A very straightforward and effective way is just charge it up before you enter a new room, let it rip and meteor whatever is still alive.
The primary can be built up to easily carry you through the entire game. The most important ascension would be Firefox blessing level 2 since the evolution is a massive power spike due to flat damage but also increased aoe that lets you one shot most things. If you find Flare Calling, pick that since it's free stagger and energy without having you stop shooting at them.
Heat recovery is very nice since it will just passively proc over and over for "free" shield regen which offsets the shield recharge delay. If you're going for full skill damage, the primary is much easier to get going than the meteor but meteor is alright and provides a ton of energy build, so that's neat. She has a lot of internal synergy so as long as you balance your energy spending and don't get overrun, it should be fairly straight forward.
Like, she has so much internal synergy that it's hard to pinpoint exact which ascensions are best since having synergies between them.. like finding more firefox ascensions when you already have Firefox blessing might be straight up better than flare calling if it suddenly causes you to one shot enhanced mobs that you couldn't before.
I really like getting an aura of venom for elemental share gemini, especially if I have Fiery Heat which makes firefox guaranteed to trigger burning. Slap decay on them and the combustion bonus damage just.. deletes stuff. Other geminis, I think, aren't nearly as impactful unless you already have a good weapon going and if you do, you probably already know which gemini would suit it better.
gusty phoenix
in boundless dream when i rest i save the game, so i can quit and continue before?
im afraid to lose my run, so i didnt quit yet
nimble flint
boundless and endless are just like normal runs regarding saves
viscid adder
So like when using ao bai (the dog) the sharpshooter goblet upgrade says “-1 second cooldown for each remaining second of remaining duration”
How do i cancel it midway or is it just worded badly?
fallen escarp
Cancel charge button, default is middle click. Also switching to Foundry works too.
It is also worded... sub-optimally.
viscid adder
Im on steam deck so computer terms are lost on me lol
Is middle click bound to another action ingame like swapping weapons or throwing grenade?
Thanks (:
fallen escarp
It's the cancel charge button. Whatever you use to cancel a shot you've already charged up.
unreal horizon
I remapped mine but I think it was either a dpad direction or joystick button like L3/R3
vague plover
he hack my steam
let me guess he told u he reported u for scaming him and he needed u to add him as a friend
junior wave
instant reload
grand tendon
Can't wait till the nwe update!!!
analog arch
Man I just want my fourth Lv3, just finished my second loop in Boundless lmao
fallen escarp
Well you're still only at 20/30 ascensions for another quest anyway.
analog arch
Well you're still only at 20/30 ascensions for another quest anyway.
Still, not getting a fourth Lv3 in two whole loops is absurd either way
fallen escarp
Hardly, given the second loop and beyond you get to keep less ascensions.
cobalt linden
I got defeated by the ship boss.. what's there after that boss.. is there a 4th stage
?
nimble flint
just keep playing ;)
paper halo
how do i even use weapon skins?
cosmic palm
how do i even use weapon skins?
In the logbook
nimble flint
mental orchid
Hello 👋🏻 you have a tier list héros/weapon ,for me i am New player i dont now what play
fallen escarp
There's pretty much no solid tier list for heroes or weapons. Hero tier varies based on difficulty, weapon tier varies based on the hero used and the difficulty.
coarse sundial
Hello 👋🏻 you have a tier list héros/weapon ,for me i am New player i dont now ...
there will never be a 100% tier list if I am honest, as there are just so many ways to play the game
the only thing I can really think of that will have the slightest validity of a tier list to it would be endless performance, but that just pretty much boils down to pushing game limits...
I should really push the limits of each character, but I already know who the top 3 are without a doubt
coarse sundial
I am just rambling about endless, really you should find what your playstyle is and try the characters
as everyone is really different to how they play in the game outside of endless tbh
mental orchid
I have already tried almost all the characters I think that Nona is really very strong but apart from her I don't see anyone broken
coarse sundial
you need to explore the characters further then, because they are all broken
Nona is pretty much the most beginner friendly character
as you dont even need to play the game to win with her
let your big boi chicken do all your work
fallen escarp
you need to explore the characters further then, because they are all broken
Remember, it's not all the heroes themselves that are broken. It's what they get access to later that is.
Though some are still broken.
Like Nona.
coarse sundial
Ironic how Nona is probably the easiest broken character yet she is the opposite in endless lol
coarse sundial
Remember, it's not all the heroes themselves that are broken. It's what they get...
Yeah I can see that
cough Qing Yan cough
poor birb
fallen escarp
Ironic how Nona is probably the easiest broken character yet she is the opposite...
It's probably because to do endless perfectly you need to be in control. Iron Wing is not in your control.
coarse sundial
that and she doesnt keep up
at the same time, you have to have the most sweatiest setups to even see the "struggle phase" in endless
because the average round I see people end in endless is like in the 10s
coarse sundial
people would enjoy endless more if the timer was more fluent and forgiving by the tiniest bit
like, a nerf and a buff to the timer
Longling should give very little time back
whereas Jokul should give more time
fallen escarp
Well I had that idea where the initial time limit is increased massively, but time gains get smaller as you progress.
You inevitably fail, but if you suck you've got more time to suck.
Though that's technically not endless.
coarse sundial
nah
I think what I stated would work better
I think what would be real fun is that more and more enemies appear the higher you progress, but that might be difficult given that gunfire reborn uses fixed spawns in the main adventure
I think how it would work is that extra random spawn algorithms could be added in more as you progress in endless
spice wave
I ain't reading allat
coarse sundial
then dont, who is stopping you?
fallen escarp
I think what would be real fun is that more and more enemies appear the higher y...
That would just speed progress up. Dual-edge stacks.
coarse sundial
That would just speed progress up. Dual-edge stacks.
hear me out...
we nerf dual edge
A NERF????
NOOOOOO!!!!!!
fallen escarp
Give it the Merciless Combo treatment!
fallen escarp
The Merciless Combo treatment is just a cap. Pretty much.
coarse sundial
there is a hard cap of 60K that isnt mention for Dual Edge and EC
fallen escarp
+1% DMG, -0.2% DMG Resistance per stack (up to 200 stacks)
coarse sundial
eh, would be literally pointless for endless
fallen escarp
Exactly.
fallen escarp
And yet it would still be one of the most powerful damage scrolls.
coarse sundial
I mean Extravagant is much more reliable in endless, but that scroll dont need to change because without it you have no chance in endless
fallen escarp
there is a hard cap of 60K that isnt mention for Dual Edge and EC
Also we both know that this only exists due to coding limitations. If it wasn't for the bit integer limit, there would be no cap.
fallen escarp
I mean Extravagant is much more reliable in endless, but that scroll dont need t...
Cap that one too. Up to 200 stacks.
cobalt dock
now we talkin’
fallen escarp
Still consumes your cash at max stacks.
Just like Dual-edge would still give -40% DMG Resistance.
coarse sundial
New update: endless is literally unplayable!!
The 10% of Gunfire fans who play endless:
fallen escarp
Correction: Endless is now much harder to last forever.
Because the intent for most games that have endless mode is, as far as I'm aware, to eventually lose.
coarse sundial
I do think that there should be challenge auras in endless that prevent any protection to lethal damage and disable spirit feline
or spirit feline and such should be banned if Endless is chosen
fallen escarp
I do think that there should be challenge auras in endless that prevent any prot...
Meanwhile in Anxi Desert - Endless Journey stage 13...
Challenge Event! (Ruined Safeguards)
"All death prevention and reviving is disabled! Spirit Feline has no effect!"
Casual Gamer: presses the quit button before raging that this game is totally unfair and completely stupid
coarse sundial
Casual gamers when they can't breeze through the hardest mode in the game:
cursive creek
thank god for rifle adjustments
fallen escarp
Only if they sucessfully fix stuff without introducing new problems.
I'm not hopeful that'll be the case, but I'm sure people will praise them regardless.
junior wave
main issue i saw with rifles is the roles/alt fire they have kinda suck
dragon chaser vs other weakspot weapons like revealer and rainbow
rainbow arch vs normal heavy hitters
fallen escarp
All weapon categories have weapons that suck.
Rifles you just don't have much benefit to using them despite that.
graceful phoenix
just that i understand this correctly. this means you can choose between booth seasons but not play booth at the same time? so it will not integrated into the base game how it normally works in season/league type games like PoE for example? why would you want such a system?
To ensure the experience of the seasonal gameplay, you can only choose one past season, and the current season's content will be temporarily disabled. Considering the maintenance challenges of integrating new version content into past seasons mode, we currently do not support experiencing new version content in past seasons mode.
cobalt dock
1 at the time
rotund timber
just that i understand this correctly. this means you can choose between booth s...
Why in the world would you not want such a system.
It sounds like the dream. The super simple answer that no one ever does
graceful phoenix
Why in the world would you not want such a system.
its not like i dont want it. i mean its something good anyway, BUT i would prefer to have to old season integrated into the base game
rotund timber
That sounds like powercreep
graceful phoenix
sounds like more powercreep = more fun -- for my taste
rotund timber
Like. We all expect the new mechanisms to be broken right? Combine that with arcane ascensions. Then with whatever they introduce next season.
We already expect powercreep. That just sounds like a recipe for them having to rebalance.
coarse sundial
Having both at the same time sounds dumb
graceful phoenix
Having both at the same time sounds dumb
you ever played any other game with a season system? games who dont integrate them into the base game are having way less players than games who have such a system. which gives me to idea that most people like having booth and dont want to loose content which they previous had in their game OR have to decide which one they CAN play.
rotund timber
The difference is that POE is 1. Willing to rebalance and nerf everything into the ground.
2. Willing to have an extremely cluttered game with a massive learning curve.
coarse sundial
you ever played any other game with a season system? games who dont integrate th...
I have played a lot of games with season integration...
junior wave
yall aint ready for the midnight built +1% damage on a tuesday evening
coarse sundial
you ever played any other game with a season system? games who dont integrate th...
You're not losing content as you can quite literally go back to replay it
rotund timber
Also its not just typical seasons. League has seasons technically. It updates over time. I have always wanted to go back and play on older versions of the game, but not everything that has ever been in the game is healthy
coarse sundial
^^^
Me personally I thought arcane ascensions sucked, they were very flawed
Fun, but wasn't really good for the game given how dumb they were
rotund timber
There are certain builds that are really cool with them. Im glad ill still be able to play them if i want to.
coarse sundial
Yeah and that's perfectly fine
But having both at the same time just makes the game pointless
Of course nobody knows how OP the next season things are until tomorrow, however having both could just make the game more of a walking simulator than it needs to be
nimble flint
Also if one wants to take the PoE compare
not all goes core
soooooo
Devs still can do whatever they want but having all seasons active at the same time would be too oppresive
that is as if you would constantly running heists with delirium in the mines
mechanical overload
thorny quiver
would also be difficult to implement two seasons due to how they are given. chests now = 1 scroll 2 seasons.
fallen escarp
sounds like more powercreep = more fun -- for my taste
You know, the logical conclusion to this sort of thought is that the game gets so overloaded with powercreep that, whenever you enter a room, all enemies die instantly without your input because all your super OP passive bonuses murder them.
If the game ever reaches a point where you win every battle but none of your decisions matter and you can't even do anything to contribute, would you still say it's fun?
graceful phoenix
You know, the logical conclusion to this sort of thought is that the game gets s...
You know, the logical conclusion to this sort of thought is that the game gets so overloaded with powercreep that, whenever you enter a room, all enemies die instantly without your input because all your super OP passive bonuses murder them.
sounds like a ton of fun to me (seriously! i love to be op and clear multiple screens at once... which is basically the endgame now anyway in r9 🤷♂️
fallen escarp
So you consider not being able to do anything because the game does everything for you... fun.
graceful phoenix
so if you reach this in endgame its fine for me, but dont need to be at start
graceful phoenix
So you consider not being able to do anything because the game does everything for you... fun.
you ever played nona rockets? its basically this
fallen escarp
Idle games also end up with bigger numbers too, so you'd enjoy it even more.
graceful phoenix
idle games are mostly the exact opposide. your a god at first lvls but then you hit a wall and the powercreep is gone into an endless w8ing room
fallen escarp
But the endless waiting where the game does everything is exactly what powercreep would do, which you find fun.
So you would find that in idle games fun. So go play an idle game.
graceful phoenix
ty for explaining me what is fun imho and what not. now i know what i had left in my life
fallen escarp
You're welcome. Now go enjoy your fun idle waiting!
vagrant stump
huge W update
proud shale
cryo quest
fallen escarp
Interesting they consider squishing 20 beetles as a hard quest.
Eh, maybe they're right.
Gotta get the kill without resorting to whatever skill your blessings are supercharging.
proud shale
wait did quests give different amounts of soul essence last season?
proud shale
its all 150 now
fallen escarp
Oh lol.
proud shale
fallen escarp
Free soul essence.
fallen escarp
Heh, the rifle adjustments are... exactly as I expected.
Majority buffs that just make them stronger and don't fix why no one uses them in the first place.
Particularly amusing how Big Hippo got the same as Crimson Firescale, despite still having a slower movement speed and a spinup time.
proud shale
coarse sundial
Rest in peace Xing Zhe
proud shale
also "optimized maximum weapon level in boundless dream"
fallen escarp
Huh. That new scroll "Scroll Enhancer" sounds like you literally cannot use it until you get the Golden Touch talent or activate Boundless Dream/Endless Journey.
Because unless it forcefully allows you to recycle scrolls while you own it, you cannot recycle scrolls to trigger its effects.
About as useful as Intimidating Presence being available to you on Normal difficulty.
clear edge
anyone else's ascensions not working? (also weird chinese 2nd goblet)
junior wave
so wait
dragon chaser basically got nerfed
+5 damage + 30%rof on mark but -.5 critx
fallen escarp
It got buffed.
It went from 85 non-crit, 212.5 crit, to 90 (117 with mark) non-crit, 180 (234) crit.
The only nerf here is critting without a mark, which good luck achieving that consistently.
junior wave
i guess its nice to play into the mark more but still outclassed by the other weakspot weapons
fallen escarp
Additionally, lowering the base CritX will make all bonuses to CritX more effective overall.
fallen escarp
i guess its nice to play into the mark more but still outclassed by the other we...
Yep.
Buffed the rifles to make the game even easier, but likely doesn't solve anything.
Exactly as predicted.
Oh wait, it does have 1 other nerf that's probably not even intended.
If you miss the mark, you waste ammo faster.
junior wave
most rifles need a better gimmick/alt fire except maybe lightning blast
that thing just has a slow bullet velocity if i remember
fallen escarp
The gimmick it has got buffed a while ago where it speeds up projectile speed.
So if the bullet velocity sucks, it's the gimmick's fault still.
red glacier
SKILLFIRE REBORN BAYBEEE
ascension reset is wild
am i misunderstanding this?
shouldnt it be the other way around?
junior wave
typo prolly
fallen escarp
Probably is, but the in-game description doesn't help either. (It's the same for both unenhanced and enhanced)
That one requires either testing or translation fixing to find out.
fallen escarp
While celebrating OP builds getting destroyed is nice, realistically this is far from the best one to get shredded from existence.
red glacier
yeah 
fallen escarp
And on one of the tamest heroes too.
red glacier
just let me have this one boss
fallen escarp
Sure.
coarse sundial
Baby iron wing is so adorable 
fallen escarp
Excuse me my good sir, their name is Iron Winglet.
coarse sundial
~~Excuse me my good sir, their name is Iron Winglet.~~
it has new name now grrrrr!!!!!!111!11!1!
junior wave
i perfer shootymcshootface
coarse sundial
No one's gonna call it Hound.
Hound? what is this "hound"?
fallen escarp
Exactly. No Hound, only Iron Winglet.
lunar bridge
Probably is, but the in-game description doesn't help either. (It's the same for...
according to the CN description, it's 1 and 2 chances for normal and enhanced respectively.
coarse sundial
Exactly. No Hound, only Iron Winglet.
it is my little baby iron wingy
am going to keep it forever
cobalt dock
noone talking about Fortune challenge?
i live for that
also, Craftsmaninheritor + enchancer = capped weapon?
coarse sundial
ok I am making my Tao run with Baby Iron Wing
because I am having an issue where the whole game softlocks
posted in issues
fallen escarp
also, Craftsmaninheritor + enchancer = capped weapon?
😩
Infinite enhancements, cost increases but costs nothing.
This, fellow people, is why you give things a reasonable cap.
fallen escarp
You underestimate my power!
rugged snow
whoever the quarter 3 characters will be, the one on the left looks like some of "darkness" themed character while the one on the right seems like an ice character. No idea what animals they could be though
fallen escarp
Hmm...
I think the new Scroll Enhancer scroll finally gives a solo use to Evil Banishing Talisman's enhanced version.
Besides recycling the scrolls for copper, of course.
Because Scroll Enhancer would let you recycle the cursed scrolls to enhance another scroll you're holding.
unkempt portal
Anyone having an issue with the new "hound" and it now swapping to stationary mode?
unkempt portal
how do you get the endless journey achievements?
are you in Reincarnation mode?
median dove
im doing reincarnation 9 with endless enabled
median dove
oh so the loop itself is when i get the first achieve?
and then im assuming the second loop is when i get the other one
unkempt portal
are you using boundless dream? or endless journey?
median dove
bizarre dream with spiritaul link thats it
i simply enabled endless & rein-9
im on desert rn in first run
unkempt portal
are you using that one?
median dove
what does that mean
median dove
the infinite symbol yes i checked that
median dove
i have a time limit?
unkempt portal
once you beat boss 4, two portals will appear you want to interact with the one to loop
median dove
gotcha well.. I guess i'll update when I get there
unkempt portal
i have a time limit?
Endless journey gives you around 10 mins to get as far as possible. every team you complete a stage (IE get the portal open) then the timer gains time
every time sorry
median dove
so you said there is a way to disable time limit?
unkempt portal
so you said there is a way to disable time limit?
Yeah but thats its own gamemode. for now you want to at least do endless journey once
the other one is boundless Dream which is endless just every stage the enemies get stronger and stronger so its go till you die basically
coarse sundial
Mist dmg capping in fjord
Average gunfire update
fallen escarp
Despite all of Birb's rage, he's still getting almost beaten by a bit of funny air.
cobalt dock
BaseDmg*Pollen Status on all enemies
increased my dmg with x50
against a single enemy
so maybe its not like it should be 
deals 510k normaly, slap it on, 21mil
fartacus
hardy aspen
too lazy to go higher
median dove
Yeah but thats its own gamemode. for now you want to at least do endless journey...
I instantly died the millisecond I entered endless journey
hit by a stray something
and according to the steam achievement.. I have to beat the game 3 times in a row or something? to get both gluttony and pole monarch?
or does the first run count
unkempt portal
I instantly died the millisecond I entered endless journey
what achievment are you wanting? as theres an achievment called "endless journey"
coarse sundial
I instantly died the millisecond I entered endless journey
Endless scales like crazy
median dove
what achievment are you wanting? as theres an achievment called "endless journey...
I achieved endless journey.
All i need left is "Back to Back"
unkempt portal
I achieved endless journey.
All i need left is "Back to Back"
best to use boundless dream for that. its easier
and no time limit
little vortex
Nice 😄
wild ingot
i hope this season will let you buy rewards with essence later on
nimble flint
Rewards of current season are only rewards.
Past season are to buy
So you gotta wait for season 3 to buy this ones rewards
junior wave
new season is pretty cool
only problem i prolly have is just micromanaging mutiple things
adding manual deployment of the mechanisms puts it like right at the verge of being too much to remember
median dove
best to use boundless dream for that. its easier
Does it actually work for the achievement?
also wait, aren't boundless dream and endless journey similar?
im really confused ngl lol
grand tendon
Any thoughts on the new update?
coarse sundial
Pretty fun but buggy
grand tendon
I see
junior wave
it just gets better and better
next quest
Endless scales like crazy
yeah, I just went into an endless journey
and I only got through the first act on it by the skin of my teeth
wind god tornado is BS, ate so much of my limited time
unreal horizon
Reascend should be disabled for multiplayer
fallen escarp
What hilarity does it cause?
junior wave
inb4 someone else can pickup the goblet
unreal horizon
I mean, the entire concept of someone dumping all their levels and getting gold goblets to reroll all their skills wastes too much time in multiplayer
it just needs to not exist
junior wave
fallen escarp
Well sorry to say, but you're never going to be able to play multiplayer without wasting time, no matter what they change.
unreal horizon
"guys can we sit here and trade 50 scrolls so I can get my scroll combos" -game lasts over 2 hours
there's a limit
fallen escarp
Only way that would be possible is if every player literally had their minds sync'd together to only do lengthy things while others are also doing them.
unreal horizon
They could make it so sharing or trading scrolls was limited so you can't spend all game doing it?
fallen escarp
Wouldn't that just introduce a new way to waste time as people decide what limited selection of scrolls they want to give?
unreal horizon
no, because a lot of decisions are extremely obvious for certain characters
fallen escarp
What if you've got more scrolls to share than the limit allows?
You want to share them all, but you have to choose which ones.
So now you waste time deciding.
unreal horizon
does lei luo need deadly counter? no, but xing zhe sure as hell does
fallen escarp
For example, what if you wanted to give a Dog some scrolls you found like Flesh & Bones, Veteran, Gourmet, Fire Enthusiast, Sanguine Relic and Resilient Life, but you were only limited to 3 scroll shares?
Now you gotta decide which ones to give him.
Or if you want to not give him all the shares, in case you find a better scroll to give him later.
Lots more decisions, which wastes time.
unreal horizon
well if your character actively suffers from sanguine relic and flesh and bones then those two you'd want to remove anyways
and probably fire enthusiast if it doesn't suit your build
most people can use resilient life
fallen escarp
Removing the scrolls also wastes time, even if you can't share them.
So wouldn't solve anything in that case.
unreal horizon
let me pose an alternative, since we already have custom modes, you could just make another mode where there's a share lock competely, no sharing scrolls or weapons at all
fallen escarp
Thanks to the way the game is developed, that's not gonna happen.
unreal horizon
what does that mean? you can't make a bizarre dream mode with a toggle?
fallen escarp
It would nerf players. Players would cry at the nerfs (even if they're optional). Devs would listen to the players crying. Devs would remove or buff the toggle to a point it doesn't even do its intended purpose anymore.
This has been what happens for 2.5 years.
unreal horizon
I don't think optional modes nerf players, they just give hosts the freedom to play how they want
fallen escarp
Did you know Mysterious Jokul, an optional mode that made the game harder, was made easier due to complaints?
Did you know that Reincarnation 8, an optional difficulty that made the game harder, was made easier due to complaints?
Did you know that Spiritual Assault, an optional game mode that was hard to begin with, was made easier due to complaints?
unreal horizon
spiritual assault was hard if you didn't use the mechanics it gave you to make it a joke
fallen escarp
Doesn't matter if it's optional. People will complain. Devs will listen. It will become easier.
And easier in this case would mean it loses its entire reason to exist.
unreal horizon
I stopped playing spiritual assault a while ago so I don't even know how they nerfed it
did they make gluttony able to be crit without having to wait for the stomach to pop out?
fallen escarp
Heavily buffed spiritual jades, added spiritual seals which are powerful temporary items, nerfed certain enemies that have crowd control, AoE or lifesteal effects, added challenge events that give you rewards which increases your power when completed.
unreal horizon
oh, so the version of spiritual assault I first played was the version post nerf
fallen escarp
If when you played Chromatic Magazine lets you apply all 3 elemental effect at once, that's post nerf.
unreal horizon
yep
fallen escarp
That jade is the best example of what they did to make Spiritual Assault easier.
You can win by doing literally nothing but reloading.
unreal horizon
make it so you can perma CC to win by default with any build? yeah
fallen escarp
So that sort of fate? It would happen to a Bizarre Dream which disables sharing between players.
The moment people realize it makes them weaker, the devs will do something like give every player +200% total damage for each player on the team, or something.
unreal horizon
have they nerfed reincarnation 9 though? seems like tons of people bitch about the shield guys
fallen escarp
Surprisingly no.
Doesn't stop them from constantly making Reincarnation difficulty itself easier.
Like with blessing buffs, new Bizarre Dreams and the current seasonal mechanics that you can't turn off.
unreal horizon
you can't turn off seasonal mechanics? I thought they were optional last season
fallen escarp
Nope!
There is no option to select "no season".
If you start a run and avoid choosing one of the options, the game forces one on you at random.
Literally the only way to not use seasonal mechanics is to play on Normal or Elite difficulty.
Or Daily Challenge, or Spiritual Assault.
unreal horizon
yeah that's a bit annoying
fallen escarp
Nightmare and Reincarnation difficulty are permanently affected.
So honestly it doesn't matter if Reincarnation 9 isn't specifically made easier. The entire difficulty is being made easier regardless.
fallen escarp
No idea if the Revealer change is actually an overall nerf or not. I've never used it, and don't plan to.
unreal horizon
the new season has way too much shit in it
wait... middle mouse is to activate the season ability? but that's my keybind for other things?
so this is like... a meta progression throwable gadget
unreal horizon
that was... an odd mechanic
median dove
Similar but different
Thank you for the clarification.
Knowing that I NEED to do Endless Journey to get the achivement is important
nimble flint
This isnt to sound condescending
It just literally says so on the achivement
yet so many ask
Endless Journey, not Boundless Dream
But glad it could be of help anyway
have fun trying
median dove
Wish me luck
on my second attempt to get this
so far the run is REALLY promising, i am spamming Mecha-drop with the invincible ironwing spiritual thing
and making sure my mecha drop does the most damage
I killed Pole monarch in 10 seconds counting the invincibilty phases
do you think I'll survive the second run of endless?
coarse sundial
do you think I'll survive the second run of endless?
Depending on your character and build as it scales a lot faster than endless
median dove
OKAY I'm gonna share stuff
Should I replace Same Boat with Fake Death just to be safe?
I feel like not dying is incredibly important here
coarse sundial
Depends on what you have
median dove
i dont have any revive scrolls
coarse sundial
Show your scrolls and builds
median dove
yep doin it now
coarse sundial
Also what round you at?
nimble flint
This is for the achievement
coarse sundial
Or stage (I call it round because I'm mental)
nimble flint
so 1st loop
coarse sundial
Earliest round Jokul can appear is 9
coarse sundial
You just started endless?
median dove
also I enabled to task-master guy so i could get more bonuses, he's useful
and yeah im in the desert waiting to begin
median dove
oh, forgot to mention: My spiritual bonuses are:
Pair of Us | Copycat | Same Boat
coarse sundial
But earliest round you can get jokul is 9
median dove
i was thinking of replacing same boat with the revive every 45 seconds
copycat and pair of us are way too useful
coarse sundial
I wouldn't sacrifice it
median dove
so keep same boat?
coarse sundial
Yeah
median dove
aight.. executing now lol
coarse sundial
If you get spirit feline you're all good
median dove
MAN I wish 😩
coarse sundial
Heh
Don't worry I still don't have it in my current endless run
Sadly I don't think Nona is that good in endless 
Just not enough Hero DPS
But for the achievement you gotta hope jokul appears as early as possible (so 9 or 10 depending if tomb or fjord is next in the rota)
median dove
ive beaten the first two zones
in about 1:30 each
FIRST BOSS here I go
wish luck
i killed the boss in 10 seconds again is that good?
just letting you know the next zone put me in the 1st area
UPDATE: I'm going to stage 10, beat the 9 boss really fast.
it's the Fjord!!! is that good?
coarse sundial
it's the Fjord!!! is that good?
did you get desert then tomb then fjord?
by the sounds of it
median dove
yep
the first level of fjord done, i noticed enemies took a bit longer to beat there- hoping stage 2 is good as i got 6 minutes remaining
coarse sundial
if you are only going for the achievement, that is not good
if you are going for high stages, good
median dove
i mean i can still do it right? just 1 more stage then beat gluttony (got pole first
coarse sundial
you will either get desert or Jokul
and the game will give the opposite boss... until about the 20s
then it just randomises it regardless
coarse sundial
i mean i can still do it right? just 1 more stage then beat gluttony (got pole f...
if you dont get desert
because it is either that or jokul in the rota
median dove
So quick question before i go..
does the back to back literally need to be in a single run?
or could i beat one endless boss, then get lucky starting a new run to beat the other
fallen escarp
Single run.
median dove
I DID IT
I GOT THE ACHIEVEMENT
So it is true: The boss you kill before starting the endless run DOES count in back-to-back
Thank you for your assistance gamers, we are once again back in 120/120 100% Achivement zone 
nimble flint
Why would it be true ?
Thats how it was designedu
you technically start the endless run from the waterfall
and you are guaranteed to have the other act 4 boss on the second time you get to yokul
median dove
Oh, the way the achivement was worded- my thought was you'd have to
- First start endless journey (so everything before doesn't count)
- Then beat the Duo Fjord during the endless stages twice, meaning 3 total Fjord bosses
Especially when you're on the first run and it says "Your Journey hasn't begun yet." I think some people might also get the wrong idea
but overall I'm happy with how things turned out. I'm no hardcore player so this was easily the strongest run I've ever had with Nona
coarse sundial
and you are guaranteed to have the other act 4 boss on the second time you get t...
unless the game hates you and gives you jokul in the late 20-30s
nimble flint
it says to beat Gluttony and Monarch in one Endless journey
coarse sundial
then for some reason the game disregards giving the opposite boss around there
coarse sundial
Yeah I suppose
but part of me thinks it is something else
but I can see it definitely for the jokul bit
nimble flint
And yokul is the only constant in the runs
nimble flint
what is between each yokul boss instance can be random
so tomb , fjord, tomb yokul is possible
coarse sundial
fair
nimble flint
But it will be theee acts at random and the 4th will be yokul
coarse sundial
you usually get jokul 3rd or 4th act in endless
nimble flint
4th
coarse sundial
yeah the rota system in endless is weird
coarse sundial
after doing 1 act you dont see that act for 2 more acts then it is put into the rota
median dove
Also the weapon skins are really neat. Does this mean further down the line we could get character skins?
I'd love those
median dove
It's good to show off to friends. I'd actually pay money for skinpacks on characters! If anything just to support the devs more
coarse sundial
it is an act rota system
An endless run I quite literally went 30 ish rounds sometimes without seeing a certain act
fallen escarp
It's good to show off to friends. I'd actually pay money for skinpacks on charac...
Hero skins would have a use exclusive to multiplayer.
Weapon skins are useful for everyone.
median dove
I understand that! But even in the lobby it's fun to play dressup haha.
I know how much I take care of my appearance in Deep Rock Galactic even though I mostly play it solo
grand tendon
any thoughts on the new update?
coarse sundial
any thoughts on the new update?
funny craftsman and baby iron wing go brrrrrrrrr
unkempt portal
Does it actually work for the achievement?
Hey I'm so sorry I went to bed at that time yesterday, to answer your questions:
- They are similar just boundless dream is the easier one as it gets harder the further you go and its not instantly a ton harder
- Yes boundless dream is the best way to get both pole monarch and gluttony in the same run as there is no time limit.
nimble flint
Except the Achievement isnt for that and you are too late to the party
proven kiln
pine oxide
how do the destiny things work
cobalt dock
try it
red spear
does reascend work on boundless dream or do you just lose all of your ascensions?
mint kiln
what is the most broken build for qian sui
red spear
up to interpretation, but imo melee based
muted night
anyone know why my save data is GONE
muted night
ugh.. there goes well over 600 hours of a file
wait thats wierd, it changed the name of my save file........ i changed it back and its fixxed ..
all good now
rotund timber
anyone on controller having troouble with datura not deploying
it works like 1 out of every 3 times
is this because I have a concealed ammo and it uses the same button for the weapon skill?
cobalt linden
finally defeated pole monarch, that too under a min. #gunfire-videos message
coarse sundial
finally defeated pole monarch, that too under a min. https://discord.com/channel...
Very nice!! :3
nimble field
So question about the new season thing, are you able to use a different season mode from someone else if you are both in the same Lobby?
Example: Someone wants to use Thorns from season 1, but someone else wants to do the Shield from season 2.
coarse sundial
I don't think so, no
I don't really play multiplayer, but I think there's some stuff that prevents season 1 having in the run
I'll have to double check
nimble field
If it isn't a thing, I think it would be a cool thing to add for a fun mode
coarse sundial
I think it would be too much
Both seasons have OP things, put them together and you may as well get the win screen
Without doing anything lol
nimble field
Well I do think a mode to turn it off is likely something that would be a good idea
coarse sundial
to have it entirely turned off would be a good feature
delicate pendant
fallen escarp
135 total downs (33.75 avg) without a Nona to artificially boost it.
Classic "We're on a difficulty that's too high" outcome.
delicate pendant
I'm only like lvl 124 rn
obsidian sun
Am I doing something wrong or is the dimensional portal just too tanky?
fallen escarp
At this point in the game's development, if pretty much anything survives longer than a few seconds, you're doing something wrong.
fallen escarp
Act 1 is always an exception.
split plinth
oh new update
shrewd carbon
any crazy fun builds the new mechanic enables or do o just use shield on monkey and pf it
coarse sundial
any crazy fun builds the new mechanic enables or do o just use shield on monkey ...
shrewd carbon
PF Monke doesn't work anymore.
damn ig uess thats why i dealt no damage
guess ill have to look for new playstyles
fallen escarp
You're going to have to use the stuff that is actually intended to be completely over the top OP with 90% of the power being completely pointless.
fallen escarp
Exactly. 😎 👉 👉
shrewd carbon
sadly i mainly play 2p cop and i cant reroll a lot
fallen escarp
DLC heroes that aren't Monke are also acceptable substitutes.
shrewd carbon
DLC heroes that aren't Monke are also acceptable substitutes.
monkey just doesnt work anymore 💀 huh
ig i could see nona with turret being pretty aight actually
fallen escarp
Nona's main draw is the fact she's borderline unkillable.
She's like the Birb when it comes to OP heroes.
shrewd carbon
the funny blessing that gives iron wing like 10 million bazillion damage for his health
bird is good????
since when
fallen escarp
Birb is the Birb of non-OP heroes.
shrewd carbon
i though owl is the only good avian in this game
fallen escarp
And given Birb is the low damage character, being the Birb and non-OP means no, you're not good with damage at all.
But if you're the Birb of OP heroes, like Nona is, it means she's hard to kill and doesn't have damage that sucks, just is slightly worse damage than the other OP heroes.
shrewd carbon
owl sucks ass stage one and then skyrockets into a nuclear bombs (last time i played him)
depends on how early u get his ascensions from what i remember
and i never actually made fox work ever
fallen escarp
Owl is the Bunny of OP heroes.
Starts weak and ends strong, but does better.
At least until Endless, which Bunny takes full advantage of.
shrewd carbon
what are fox and monke then
shrewd carbon
what no PF does to a monke
no longer a monkey main it seems (i am too bad to not abuse OP interactions)
coarse sundial
Xing Zhe went from 2nd most viable character in endless to "I don't wanna play with you anymore..."
shrewd carbon
shields feels the best from playing
flower seems good in terms of upgrades it has?
and turrets seems kinda mediocre tbh
tho its probably very hero specific
shrewd carbon
idk what to really build for on nona
since it seems like i either do melee, ranged wing or pistol crits
and secondary fits somewhere in there
delicate pendant
I remember during the R9 run I did yesterday, we made it to Abyssal Serpent and the dude dies within 1 second...
I assumed it was the dog who did it bc he had 2 octopi and was pretty crazy but I also had a slight feeling it was my Swords Out that did it.
Like how tf did the Abyssal Serpent get deleted
rotund timber
Still havnt been able to play. My current hope is that there is a way to bind the mechanism button combo to one of the buttons on the back of my controller
As it stands, it feels terrible
graceful phoenix
which weapon am i missing ?
nimble flint
Injector
nimble flint
Gloves , Dragon , etc
graceful phoenix
k
errant condor
I remember during the R9 run I did yesterday, we made it to Abyssal Serpent and ...
I did a dual joctopus run and if I could hit the serpent it would die instantly but it took a while since low range
errant condor
since it seems like i either do melee, ranged wing or pistol crits
why melee?
if your talking about battle pace
that's a single ascension
if you want speed = damage, play libra warrior turtle and don't apsis
graceful phoenix
fml i accidently picked up lucky roulette at ~80k gold and now i have 10k again
graceful phoenix
can you get one of the new scrolls only in multiplayer? because i have over 120 scrolls, only get the same over and over again, but still 10/11 new ones
cobalt dock
1 of them is only multi
graceful phoenix
i see
graceful phoenix
1 of them is only multi
errant condor
ah
bitter schooner
wanted to check out the new update somehow its even more auto-play then before got bored and quit sigh
fallen escarp
The funny part here is this season was supposed to be more manual than the last.
But manual overwhelming power is still overwhelming power.
split plinth
does the wall one for turtle actually dmg enemies multiple times if you have wave breaking blows
or is it like the last season's thorns where it just does skill dmg
graceful phoenix
typical nona run
graceful phoenix
is there a bug that i never found this scroll "greedy choice" in my runs ?
errant condor
is there a bug that i never found this scroll "greedy choice" in my runs ?
have you unlocked it
if not thats why
if yes youre unlucky
graceful phoenix
have you unlocked it
yes ive unlocked all scrolls
errant condor
how do you destroy a scroll?
you open your inventory
and...
click the discard button
or recycle
clear edge
i guess that didnt count before the latest patch since i discarded/recycled a ton after a couple runs
clear edge
towards the season task of destroy 20 scrolls
clear edge
i mean the patch notes said that "some seasonal quest didn't work correctly" so who knows
all i know is that i've recycled/discarded more than 20 but only have 14 registered
viscid adder
So why not have a normal chat channel?
Anyways i come here because im curious what builds do you go for on the hound drone?
meager nest
what is the best way to do the "get a health cap of 500" season challenge
fallen escarp
- Get Veteran.
- Brutally slaughter everything at close range.
- (Optional) Get any other bonuses to HP.
- If you're still under, do Boundless Dream.
meager nest
ty
errant condor
what is the best way to do the "get a health cap of 500" season challenge
play dog
fallen escarp
Dog alone doesn't get you close.
At best his base stats and ascensions get you 275.
Even including Flesh and Bones and Sanguine Relic that's still only 445.
So at that point you pretty much need Veteran or some even bigger combos, at which point you might as well just get Veteran as any hero.
errant condor
I swear I've gotten to like 1k without veteran
errant condor
when did you last play
soft jasper
it has
soft jasper
been a while
whats new in the more recent updates? is the season thingy still not optional?
coarse sundial
whats new in the more recent updates? is the season thingy still not optional?
unfortunately yeah
cobalt dock
but its better then S1 in that if you don’t use it, its not involved
soft jasper
ah
cobalt dock
in-game its a optional use
soft jasper
sick
cobalt dock
also whats the mini iron wing thing
1 of the Devine Mechanisms
soft jasper
now i cna finally gamble scrolls at full speed 🔥
errant condor
you get to choose between:
a smoking flower
a baby turret
a shield
then you get to pick up "almighty cores" and put them in upgrade slots to make a build for that mechanism
torpid wedge
But, you can always just throw flowers at enemies
it has a certain vibe to it
junior wave
Zaza flower
Don't touch me or my son ever again
Deploy countermeasures
tepid jungle
Did you know that Spiritual Assault, an optional game mode that was hard to begi...
they just needed to give some space in time. I liked the difficulty
tepid jungle
Did you know that Reincarnation 8, an optional difficulty that made the game har...
It's sad. I wish they have a super hard mode modifier to those who wanna test themselves
errant condor
is dog with ascension fusion warlike blade better for high rof build than bunny?
fallen escarp
No.
Bunny has Swords Out for even more hits, and Sword Enthusiast to remove any damage issues.
junior wave
only one who matches bunny in ROF is energy draining fox
fallen escarp
Nope, she's still worse.
errant condor
Bunny has Swords Out for even more hits, and Sword Enthusiast to remove any dama...
i want the weapon to do damage. i dont want skill damage
i dont care about swords out hits
sword enthusiast is additive right
fallen escarp
Yes.
But since you can get thousands of damage bonus and lucky shot chance, you don't care.
fallen escarp
i want the weapon to do damage. i dont want skill damage
You use both.
That's part of what makes Bunny so powerful in RoF. Swords Out is the only skill which has no casting animation.
errant condor
isnt life power a bigger bonus than sword enthusiast
fallen escarp
Hell no.
errant condor
?
i see sword enthusiast stack to like 1-1.5k
and you can get that much hp
the only bunny blessing that even buffs weapons is sword mastery isnt it
fallen escarp
You get +4% damage and +2% lucky shot chance per sword, you get up to 54 swords per cast (30 is more likely), and you can cast like, 10 times per second with enough cooldown reductions.
And stacks last for 10 seconds.
errant condor
more rof
fallen escarp
So you could end up with like, 3,000 sword stacks for +12,000% damage and +6,000% lucky shot chance with those numbers.
errant condor
but if your going boundless dog will stack veteran higher eventually
itll take a while tho
fallen escarp
It's the multiplicative nature of DMG and lucky shots that make it even more powerful.
Just those 2 numbers alone you're doing about 738100% damage.
errant condor
ok but what if I do a 50 hour boundless run and get to 500,000 hp
fallen escarp
Dog would need to kill 369050 enemies at close range to match it.
errant condor
Dog would need to kill 369050 enemies at close range to match it.
half with enhanced paranormality enhanced veteran
fallen escarp
If you're 50 hours into a run, damage stops mattering because of the cap so maybe dog has a chance.
But you have to slowly build up to that point, while Bunny gets there way faster. Plus she doesn't have to get lucky with Ascension Fusion, and if she does she can get even more RoF stuff from that.
But at the point you only care about RoF, Swords Out basically acts like a second weapon for Bunny anyway.
errant condor
how much dps boost is spores?
fallen escarp
how much dps boost is spores?
Depends on the weapons used, but usually it's "a lot".
errant condor
pick it up, if you discard (not recycle) it from your inventory, it makes you lose a level of the lowest level ascension (random choice between them if theres a tie) and then makes you gain a level of the highest level ascension (level 1 or 2, random between them if tie)
viscid adder
pick it up, if you discard (not recycle) it from your inventory, it makes you lo...
Thx
analog arch
Which Mechanism do y'all prefer so far
errant condor
matrix
dapper tartan
Did the devs mentioned anything about losing save files on steam or am I just getting shagged by this update?
elder ridge
oh i forgot hopw weird messages in this server were
its all the way at the corner
anywhosers to my question
oes anyone here know if there is any form of hard save file?
i kinda want to start from scrach whilst still keepng a copy of my current save/progression somewhere
it would also be nice in case steam cloud or the files ever brown themselves
fallen escarp
Click the top-right in the main menu. That opens the Archives which lets you select and create different save slots.
Those files are also found in a folder... somewhere. I forgot. You can copy those elsewhere.
elder ridge
Click the top-right in the main menu. That opens the Archives which lets you sel...
Ooo is that new?
fallen escarp
Not at all.
elder ridge
i swear that wasnt a thing a while ago
this def feels new
i mean the hover over text and woprding at the to
p
fallen escarp
It's been there forever. Maybe even since the game was released to early access.
elder ridge
so if i create new save data
i keep my old data and nothing gets overwritten?
fallen escarp
Yes.
elder ridge
It's been there forever. Maybe even since the game was released to early access.
maybe the text above it is new or i was just somehow blind lol
cursive lance
what has everyone been running on Tao this season?
errant condor
anything
clear lodge
I've barely touched this game since there was only 2 characters and I have no idea what to do rn....
fallen escarp
Explore the new stuff, probably.
Or start a new save file so you can begin from scratch instead of trying to remember where you left off. That might work too.
clear lodge
Took your advice and started a new save (very proud of myself for clearing the boat on my 2nd run :p). Curious what the meta is these days though. I remember the last time I played, concealed ammo was super broken compared to everything else
fallen escarp
The meta is... umm...
cough
Very different since Concealed Ammo was king.
...God, that's the understatement of the century...
clear lodge
Is demonlore at least still a prince? Lol
clear lodge
Feels so weird having things to learn about the game again lol
fallen escarp
When people were impressed they got 42 million for a single hit from an entire run of preparation.
You get 45 mil now just by breathing on something.
clear lodge
Currently getting my butt kicked in elite, found that lightning orb gun rather nice. Does playing with a team still make enemies ridiculously strong?
nimble flint
never did ?
fallen escarp
^
It made them real tough, but players usually got an advantage anyway where they didn't care if the enemies killed them.
Plus scroll sharing and stuff.
Oh wait, earlier than I thought. Players didn't care as much.
clear lodge
I only ever played pubs, so it was basically just a good way to buff enemies and have a few mindless zombies "supporting" you lol
fallen escarp
Well in any case, nah. Playing in a team is now a bigger advantage than it used to be.
clear lodge
Admittedly, I was occasionally one of those zombies if I got trash rng :p
fallen escarp
In fact it's so big that sometimes you end up not even needing your teammates at all.
Or maybe that's just player scaling putting in the work? Not sure on the specifics.
clear lodge
I think I might just suck at the game... 8 runs on elite and most ended in the desert, only 1 made it to the snow stage, and I got destroyed by the boss 😅
viscid adder
Just gotta get those levels up
violet kiln
since when did iron wing barrage start randomly spinning around?
fallen escarp
Well there was something about Iron Wing's (and Hound's) shoulder cannons being adjusted.
In the latest update.
sacred stump
just getting back into the game after a while and checking out some builds...does painkiller cat favor skill damage or weapon damage?
fallen escarp
just getting back into the game after a while and checking out some builds...doe...
Neither.
You'd only use one of them when Painkiller is not being effective against an enemy.
sacred stump
so most of the damage is pretty much still just miasma build from before?
cuz combustion is based off weapon damage right
fallen escarp
Combustion is based off the hit that triggered it.
Either weapon or skill damage by proxy.
unreal horizon
the internal combustion timer is per enemy right? so that means painkiller on crown prince with smoke grenades is taking procs away from your weapon?
is that timer shared with all 4 players or local?
fallen escarp
It's per enemy, so yes Smoke Grenades will take procs away from your weapon, whether you have Painkiller or not.
No idea about if it's shared or local, because I don't play multiplayer, and no one who does has done enough research.
unreal horizon
is it worth getting spiritual link* to make your primary fire type despite the cap on something like angelic aura?
fallen escarp
It's always worth choosing spiritual link. There are literally no downsides to having it.
unreal horizon
no I meant, I would have considered sacrificing scrolls in scroll selection to chase after it because the combustion damage
fallen escarp
You're only sacrificing 2 scrolls that may or may not be better than the fire-based scrolls.
unreal horizon
but blazing hoop takes a proc, flame shard isn't particularly strong, and fire enthusiast is nice with deadly counter, and I'm too lazy to use elemental weave most of the time
also I thought the idea of Sanguine Relic and Fire Enthusiast was that lifesteal was made into a cooldown but could also regen shields? Isn't Fire Enthusiast super bad without Flesh and Bones?
or sacrificing the Deadly Counter synergy by using Flame Shard or other immunity
do we have numbers on the typical amount of shield/armor/raw health you typically see in the game to determine which elemental type is the best overall now?
or is it conditional like having penetration bullet or something
fallen escarp
Fire best for damage, corrosion best for elemental effect variety. Lightning best for disappointing you.
unreal horizon
so the answer sounds like it's not as obvious of a pick as it used to be
but it's still a global multiplier so it's worth something
covert perch
Me no smart brain man can someone explain the gemini inscription of the AoE thing to me
unreal horizon
if I wanted to main a wild hunt, would I be better off going wild hunt + argus spore gemini and replace the secondary with whatever weapon level I find natively / from shops, or is there a better option?
like focus the wild hunt upgrades and then swap out the secondary with whatever raises the spore damage? or use a different gemini?
assuming I can get spiritual link fire element and deft hands / enhanced skateboarder or something
fallen escarp
Never use spores when using a shotgun as your main weapon. It shreds the spore's damage and you rely on being accurate with the shotgun to get any real benefit to spore procs.
fallen escarp
Element share or mag share.
sacred stump
is there any sort of repository for builds and what to look for in each build or is it just kinda play and figure it out?
rotund timber
is there any sort of repository for builds and what to look for in each build or...
The wiki is cool and has some. Sometimes people here mention broken stuff.
trim sparrow
Anyone know what is the highest dmg someone got in a whole run?
I am atm at 400B+ overall dmg with Li on R9
I gonna continue this run and see how far I can go
fallen escarp
Anyone know what is the highest dmg someone got in a whole run?
Virtually infinite.
Boundless goes on forever, and there is nothing which can stop you.
Doesn't matter what people have achieved already. Just a matter of patience before someone beats them.
sacred stump
man i remember getting a 24 million run when the game first released and that was aboslutely insane
dire monolith
pulled off a good 2 hour or so run, might do a longer one once i reach re 9
the monke dude is straight up really good when it comes to weapon dmg with certain upgrades
errant condor
or it's the fact your on r2
valid zephyr
Anyone know what is the highest dmg someone got in a whole run?
easily a few trillion as endless mode exists
split plinth
I've only managed to get a trillion on dog once
took forever though because it took 300 stages
boundless/endless still has the 150k dmg cap?
glad iris
150k?
fallen escarp
I doubt many people know the true cap, due to how often it gets bypassed by modifiers.
valid zephyr
took forever though because it took 300 stages
mainly because you were on boundless compared to endless. you dont even have to hit stage 100 to get a trillion in a game of endless
I got to stage 69 and was well over a trillion damage on endless mode season 1
split plinth
gonna try endless dog next time then
is there any major difference between boundless and endless?
like scroll limitations or is it just faster dr scaling
fallen escarp
is there any major difference between boundless and endless?
#gunfire-faq message
dire monolith
or it's the fact your on r2
that too to be fair, i gotta get to r9
unreal horizon
does deadly counter work on wolf gaze's voracity or howl stacks
fallen escarp
Theoretically yes.
Unless they did what they did to spores and just prevent crits with them.
unreal horizon
https://i.imgur.com/HwJToLn.png does this work with deft hands / enhanced skateboarder?
fallen escarp
Doubt it, but no one knows for sure.
unreal horizon
Is my math right? Without talents or crits, Wild Hunt with infinite mag is 8640 DPS, Rainbow Arch with exclusive + TAS execution of charged shots is 7040 DPS, Wolf Gaze with no inscrip is about 3296 DPS? and aura of venom is 2530
obviously with crits those numbers change
and rainbow arch and aura of venom don't scale with rate of fire so they're limited in scaling methods
man that rainbow arch number looks good though
clear lodge
Would anyone mind explaining the difference between reincarnations? In the middle of my first r1 run, ways into the endless stuff farming them blue boogers. Wondering if there is any reason to end my endless run before I have enough to max talents
unreal horizon
https://gunfirereborn.fandom.com/wiki/Reincarnation boundless dream* doesn't give as much essence other than boss kills, so R1 speedrunning would be best I guess
fallen escarp
• Reincarnation 1: Get access to overpowered spiritual blessings, overpowered bizarre dreams, powerful enhanced scrolls, mediocre enhance weapons, enemies get slightly tougher and deal slightly more damage.
• Reincarnation 2: Enemies get slightly tougher and deal slightly more damage.
• Reincarnation 3: Enemies get slightly tougher and deal slightly more damage.
• Reincarnation 4: Enemies get slightly tougher and deal slightly more damage.
• Reincarnation 5: Enemies get slightly tougher and deal slightly more damage.
• Reincarnation 6: Enemies get slightly tougher and deal slightly more damage.
• Reincarnation 7: Enemies get slightly tougher and deal slightly more damage.
• Reincarnation 8: Several new challenge events and more appear. Bosses always have a challenge event.
• Reincarnation 9: Enemies get boosted stats or new abilities. Some are devastatingly powerful, others are so weak they help you instead. Some new challenge events.
frail hemlock
After season 2 update, me and my friend experiencing extreme lag when server host is switching world like get in and out from vaults.
It happens no matter who is hosting the server, joined player will have those lags.
I think it is game problem and I can not fix but is there any workaround?
ember lintel
does justice count as fire damage or explosion for achievements?
fallen escarp
Both.
proven isle
How it started:
Where we ended up:
Tbf it’s only Reincarnation 2– I was hoping to just do a quick and chill run
gloomy carbon
does anyone have an idea when the update for quarter 3 is said to drop?
rotund timber
Season 2 dropped on 4/26 as the quarter 2 update. I would assume the quarter 3 update would be at least 3 months from that point.
gloomy carbon
alright cool
graceful phoenix
finally
finite parrot
I think I made a tiny mistake
unreal horizon
https://i.imgur.com/G0rVrLL.jpeg mortar qing yans not too bad
thankfully I got tons of infinite ammo options instead of hail of bullets that I usually went for
vale anchor
When the conditions are just right and you find 2 perfect scapel
fallen escarp
Neither of those look perfect. At least not for endless.
coarse sundial
Definitely missing vital ascensions
vale anchor
oh my bad, let me recorret myself, perfectly fun scapel, +projectiles and dual weidling with Dog
coarse sundial
fringe crystal
Well in any case, nah. Playing in a team is now a bigger advantage than it used ...
Who wouldve saw this coming 
mellow cosmos
yooo
runic geyser
hey all, i've seen some posts in the issues area but no responses. i have over 100 hours in the game, but recently lost almost all progress with the update. I say almost cause when i logged in it gave me the rewards for killing certain bosses for the first time. Is there any solution to fix this?
errant condor
hey all, i've seen some posts in the issues area but no responses. i have over 1...
steam cloud
runic geyser
steam cloud
The cloud data is overwritten when the game is closed, so my steam cloud save is the same as my local one, which is the same problem the others have mentioned. I wish it was as simple as just loading the cloud data
mellow cosmos
foxxy
fallen escarp
Fox or Turtle, because you can use their skills while still using the weapon. Though it's technically a skill build with a bit of extra damage.
Red Panda, because she gets bonuses to pistols.
tepid pulsar
thank you
cobalt dock
do more damage
coarse sundial
do more damage
coarse sundial
resetting run, werent entirely happy with all my choices
cobalt dock
funky flat dmg hit
coarse sundial
funky flat dmg hit
Very very silly
Not really enjoying the mechanisms, so my next run will be with thunder step
Gonna make the silly cat nuke
jade quartz
Is there some sorta movement speed bug? I just got done with a run where I was slow asf, even with 2 of us having core member (and I had a melee weapon, but even with a pistol I was abysmally slow). I didn't have any cursed scrolls either
mellow cosmos
It happened to me, too.
strange mountain
i still don't know how to do mechanisms good...
mellow cosmos
It isn't good. It's not your problem.
fallen escarp
You're talking about the things that allow you to win by using nothing but those, on the hardest difficulty.
mellow cosmos
Ok, it's my problem.
fallen escarp
Very similar to last season's stuff. You can win the entire game with them alone.
fallen escarp
I've heard Datura is the best if you want to exclusively use it and nothing else.
But Hound is probably better if you have no idea what you're doing, because it's the only one that partially works passively.
mellow cosmos
I will say lei luo. He has high movement speed, to run 🤨
If you only do datura, ofc
fallen escarp
If I had to guess, Dog, because he can repeatedly stack pollen just by exploding everything and it doesn't cost him anything.
icy bronze
Fee fye foe fum
feral fable
how does anyone even do solo R9 without painkiller, if the enemies have Second Wind, it just feels like a death sentence
Nona notwithstanding because Iron Wing just draws all the aggro
fallen escarp
Step 1: Git gud at beating act 1, the only hard part.
Step 2: Business as usual.
All those things you learned about surviving on Normal, Elite and Nightmare difficulty? Yeah, you need those once more.
Unless of course you Nona'd it, in which case you probably didn't learn much.
pine ibex
A lot of time passed since i played at this game x)
New mechanisms, something new finally
Funny to see another game with battlepass, meh
fallen escarp
The battlepass is barely a battlepass. Pretty much just a regular big update with a fancy name attached to it.
pine ibex
Anyways
fallen escarp
There's no cost to play with it, the tasks are often short or easy, you don't have to do every task for all rewards, previous season rewards can be bought with soul essence, and previous game mechanics can be switched to whenever.
pine ibex
Reincarnation 9 run time. And spending 11k souls for rerols
fallen escarp
The only thing it doesn't have is the ability to turn it off.
mellow cosmos
You can just skip choosing mechanical
mellow cosmos
What 🥺
fallen escarp
The closest you can get to turning it off is by picking a completely manual mechanism, and just never using it.
But even with that you're still interrupted by dimension portals appearing.
Which are designed to be painful to destroy if you're not using mechanisms.
coarse sundial
and the fact the modules and such auto recycle adding to your power and cooldown reduction iirc
fallen escarp
Yeah that too.
coarse sundial
I guess they didnt consider disabling them entirely lol
fallen escarp
Definitely didn't, and I'm sure they know about people wanting it.
They could've added the ability to disable seasons when it was halfway into Season 1.
And given they now have a season selector and pre-season gameplay hasn't changed, they have literally nothing difficult that is stopping them from adding a "none" option.
pine ibex
Endless huh
feral fable
"everything you learned about surviving on Normal, Elite and Nightmare" sounds a bit disingeneious when there's definitely more of everything going on at R9, particularly when elemental grenadiers are throwing splitting, persistent aoe bombs over cover, melee enemies run at you faster, and the suicide bombers are so numerous and come staggered instead of all at once, all at the same time
there's knowing how to bait the suicide bombers and melee rushers into doing their thing and hiding behind cover, and then there's "the spear and swordsmen are out running the conga line of suicide bombers that drop persisting elemental AOE cutting off the amount of space you have to work with in an already cramped space, and two crossbowmen just flanked around your cover to shoot at you"
fallen escarp
Endless huh
If you want true endless, do Boundless Dream instead.
Endless Journey has a timer you must constantly add time to, or you can't continue.
feral fable
"and the grenadiers threw splitting elemental grenades behind you that also leave persisting aoe fields"
fallen escarp
"everything you learned about surviving on Normal, Elite and Nightmare" sounds a...
Well the alternative to not remembering what you learned from those difficulties is simply standing there like an idiot and not refining your playstyle based on what you find, instead expecting to rely on that one completely overpowered thing you guarantee at the start.
Reason why you have to remember them is because of the sudden surge of splitting grenades and bombers, while you don't have a "stop now" button.
feral fable
Well the alternative to not remembering what you learned from those difficulties...
I disagree with the notion that it's a binary case of "standing there like an idiot and not refining your playstule based on what you find" and "being able to reasonably fight around all the enemy attack patterns" between pre reincarnation difficulties and high reincarnation difficulties.
Played a few reps of Nightmare and pure reincarnation without any of the modifiers, and without any of the broken setups I'm used to, and the difference in both the relentlessness and speed of attacks coming out between them is sufficient enough that it'll take more than just "everything you learned about surviving on Normal, Elite, and Nightmare", especially with how enemies start to have more serendipitous instances of making you pick between different types of shit situations as their rate of attacks coming out overlap with other enemies downtimes
now granted, I accept that learning how to force some particular attacks to happen in your favour alongside others, is a skill in and of itself to learn
fallen escarp
Remember, the moment you step into Reincarnation, you can throw a lot of the skills you learned out the window because you just become too powerful.
Reincarnation 9 act 1 is just so difficult you need to remember them again.
feral fable
I'd argue it's not so much a case of relearning as it is needing to learn to adapt the basics into the sheer wildfire chaos of R9
fallen escarp
Don't need to dodge if enemies die instantly from offscreen because you sneezed in a direction.
Don't need to aim for the above reason.
Don't need to find good weapons because your damage bonuses take care of that, or you just don't use weapons at all.
But if suddenly enemies don't become useless or die instantly from your flailing about, you have to remember those things that happen when you get shot at or can't effortlessly annihilate everything.
Heck, even multiplayer is a good showcase of this effect.
feral fable
and my point is that "remembering" those basics don't help you much in the context of R9, because the gulf in intensity and attack intervals is so vast that you need to adapt specifically to what its throwing at you
fallen escarp
Why bother remembering how to dodge if you can catch several bullets and then get revived by your friend?
feral fable
and sometimes even thats not enough because you're just not fast enough to get to the safe spots in time
I have a rough sense of when the DOT AOEs from suicide bombers dissapear now, but the fact of the matter is that there are times in solo when I've been backed into a corner from trying to work with the enemy attack patterns just spiral into getting metaphorically put into check over and over again
fallen escarp
because the gulf in intensity and attack intervals is so vast
If you're using Painkiller, what attacks?
feral fable
when in hindsight, there were times that I should have been identifying the routes that lead to me taking the least damage into a position where I can avoid certain death
feral fable
> because the gulf in intensity and attack intervals is so vast
If you're using ...
that was me talking in the context of not using any of the broken things I'm used to
fallen escarp
Sure.
Regardless, my point no matter what extra stuff R9 throws at you, is if you're using those stuff, you don't need to remember anything.
If you aren't, you suddenly do.
Doesn't matter if grenades split into 3 more grenades, you still gotta remember that the enemy throws grenades.
Doesn't matter if the melee enemy moves faster, still gotta remember that they will melee you.
Doesn't matter if bomber heads more often reach you, still gotta remember that those heads explode.
So regardless of R9 or not, you still gotta do more than if you used Painkiller.
So you still gotta remember what you learned in Normal, Elite and Nightmare difficulty.
End of.
feral fable
not it isn't. all those things don't happen in a vacuum, it takes more than remembering all those things to deal with R9 act 1
fallen escarp
Missed the point, again.
R9 adds onto what Normal/Elite/Nightmare did.
Still gotta know what to do on Normal/Elite/Nightmare before you can add extra from R9.
feral fable
add extra as in the innate increased damage, spawns, and decreased attack intervals, or as in the extra optinoal modifiers?
fallen escarp
It's like building a house.
You can't set up the attic without first laying down the foundation, the first floor and the second floor.