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i think ive become addicted to playing the dog no other character feels as fun 💀
the game has no reason to be unable to handle it though...
arcane thunder exists so damage can easily reach tens of billions without issue
dog is peak
its such madness
what are good spiritual blessings for soul strike build, ive got painkiller and dimensional strike atm
It has no reason to be unable to handle it now, and that might still only be a possibility if crashes still happen.
Remember, they added in Thunderous Arcanum and increased the enemy max HP increase only after they added Endless, and they did the HP increase in response to Endless which was the first thing the game wasn't designed to handle.
So the only reason why the game might have a chance of adding in something it couldn't handle is because the devs added in something it couldn't handle then were required to fix it.
okay that is fair
lmao dog is my least played character together with tao
dog is fucking awesome
it's literal madness
also clash royale ass laugh when he kills an enemy
or play lei luo and press one button and everything is wiped
I don't like Dog or Bunny.
Dog because he relies on HP and I vastly prefer Shields/Armor, and Bunny because I'm not a fan of continuous firing weapons.
can agree on the bunny one, i like hp cuz funny resolute
if there was a resolute for shields somehow then i'd prefer shields
furthermore dog gets out dmg'ed almost everyone cuz he needs to aim
It's something more satisfying where you have to rely on your own strategy to survive effectively, rather than relying on something that doesn't care how you play.
yesn't there is so much stuff for survivability that it isnt hard to survive anymore
even doge and strafe spam keeps you alive 90% of the time
Talking about when not dying actually mattered.
true, just press that revive button on your friend
or get soul ferryman and get an extra revive solo
Or just shoot the enemy.
very true
or enhanced triple comeback
for that matter
tbh its kinda hard dying after desert 2 cuz everything dies in one hit
that is if you dont have a god run
And if you do have a god run, everything dies 0.1s after spawning.
the fucking pyro lanterns 😭
i play a lot of melee
so
You also play Nona. Dying is irrelevant.
tbf been running nona a lot less now
mostly just ao bai and cat
Painkiller, huh? Dying is irrelevant.
"Blessings, huh? Dying is irrelevant"
Start with Eye of Providence and Steady Profit, then say that again.
Unless you get Enhanced Mid-Air Strike, then congrats.
eye of providence is hella good wdym
but sure
will do
For endless.
+1 random set of choices at the end of each act isn't all that spectacular when you're starting out. Even Steady Profit gives you something random halfway through each act.
@soft jasper you know how much -less has warped your view, right?
the norm for most is stll just a run to monarch and end
boring
the only time where stress isnt at max is jokul and thats like 2 stages
boundless is fun the first few loops
endless is
uh
top 10 ways how to get carpal tunnel
fair enough
though you get another chance at getting an upgrade chest
The best you're gonna get out of that are enhanced scrolls or a goblet, maybe a couple if you're lucky, but for the price of an entire blessing is that really worth it?
fair enough
It's significantly better when you get countless bonus chests as you effortlessly tear through dozens of stages.
the worst thing i ever did was foundry only no blessings r9 wich was pure shit tbh
took me 3hrs
would never redo that shit
did i say nona
bird blessingless r9 :3
I loved the part where they said "It's paranormalitying time" and paranormalitied all over those guys.
what is the highest aoe weapon in the game
Tiger Cannon, both in shot and stats.
Deafening Mortar's weapon skill is also in shot, but not in stats.
hmm
now that I'm thinking, thunderstorm has the highest aoe
in area covered
cause it's a constantly active aoe that goes any distance instead of aoe being activated on hit
My successor has been chosen
quick question. if i lose a daily and then go back and beat it on my second try do i get progress towards the complete 5 different daily challenge achievement?
obviously
idk usually in my mind daily means one attempt
@soft jasper i dualwield combo'd every weapon to see wich is best
uh huh
Thunderstorm is the clear winner btw
uh huh
Pushed every skill to its limit, even all 3 seasonal thingies, all the dailies, speedrunning, glitching, breaking the game, you name it
uh huh
Atleast used every weapon for a full run (as in got the weapon before the first boss)
uh huh
And yea furthermore nothing left
Can say i enjoyed the 600hrs i put into the game but now its just a wait
If i need to do specific weapon combos with dual wield i need to put in 1000+ hrs, and all the results are the same cuz dog boring
dog boring lmfao
idk what you dont like about the madness but alrite
look, if the game's so boring to you, why not leave and play something else?
Click and shoot and thingy dies, either to an explosion, combustion proc, spores explosion regular hit
Did a while ago
why are you still here then setting elitist standards like "the unofficial standard for a speedrun is only under 10 minutes"
Last time i did more than 3 runs in 3 days is alteast 3months ago
Not really elitist imo
it is
uh huh
Simple guide for the easiest sub 10 possible:
R1
Spores
Lone wolf overconsumption
Any character and any blessing
No vaults
All you need
And dont backtrack, if you do these things you cant fail
You would need to throw on purpose no not get sub 10 with this piss easy braindead setup, you dont even need to aim
obv getting sub 10 with a piss easy setup is going to be easy
Exactly! So is the standard elitist? No
If you wanna make your own life harder, go for it but dont complain about "elitist standards"
Btw another trick to make it easier, use the pityfiles on speedrun.com saves you time on some bad layouts, and these days you even have the seasonal stuff to make it more trivial
For other difficulties sub 10 CAN be hard with bad rng but should be doable (with some exceptions)
nah fr tho thanks pie, appreciate for the info it gave me some ideas to do these runs.
go for it! i belive anyone can do sub 10
also looks good on profile stats if you care about that
u got any tips for endless journey to stage 100 tho? I think I heard someone did like 1000 plus stage using enhanced penetration bullet + paranormality Interdependent Fortune, but I think I wanna try to reach a hundred without using that strat.
Furthest I've gotten so far is stage 83 with cat and tiger and bird.
you should try piercing flame monkey, tho it does require a really really good piercing flame for it to pop off
i did it that way and it was pretty doable, i could have gone longer but got bored lol
the one i used
mind telling me why piercing flame? I'm not too familiar with monkey I just know his E is counts as weapon damage
very very broken interaction with its exclusive inscription
what the fuck
basicly exponetionally scales dmg the more you hit
exclusive inscription cap is 3
clearly you dont play monkey
monke things
welp looks like it's time for me to learn the ways of the monkey
and take it out as another character
i can teach u tmr if you want since there is quite some stuff you should know
in bed rn so yea
wait, so I should just focus on any inscriptions that boost the weapon damage right?
yeah, the one thats essential is this one
how is it not useful?
my justice does 8
we just count the weapon damage right, and cos snipers can cause the E to Crit
and has more rof
and? it doesnt kill bosses through invincibility and doesnt dmg cap at stage 1
how are you even going to get that piercing flame at stage 1
yep, your E is basicly shooting a weapon
also what is stopping it from killing bosses through invincibilitu
blessing
not cool enough
what fucking blessing
yeah I think I got the gist of it. and also cos I have a kink to min max weapons in boundless for my endless runs
uh huh
ultimate firearm
your piercing flame doesn't have aoe and isnt a fucking bomb shotgun
i run elemental advantage on it
spores are worthless
it nukes faster than ur justice
uh huh
it only does
at most
30m per shot
my justice can do 120 in a single shot
not counting bonuses such as elemental mag, explosive bullets, or fish and bear paw
wrong again buddy it instakills anything cuz funny piercing flame monkey, now pls stop yapping about stuff that you dont even know how they work
uhhh Hisami, I think his main dmaage doesnt come frfom shooting his weapon bnut from his E which gets buffed from the weapon he's holding?
what is stopping this justice from doing the same
if you're so knowledgeable then explain it
finaly someone with a brain lol
can you like, turn down the insults
my guy you are yapping and acting like you know everything but half the info you are giving isnt true
oh if you want to reach stage 100 in boundless you can run anything tbh, the dr doesnt scale fast at all
- prove that it isn't true
- you're "yapping" without explaining anything, insulting me for no real reason and acting like you are above all else
like you are saying stuff before you even consider something else
yeah I think it's just important to take breaks in between uless multiplayer cos I lose my attention span.
first of all,
you said flowing time procs when you get hit wich isnt true
justice does 120mil per hit, no the pyrodominance 3 cap is 90mil
saying ur justice nukes faster isnt true either, cudgel has homing and aoe and with painkiller and pyrodominance 3 i have around 6 instances of 15-90mil a hit on more enemies than you could hit
need me to say more?
this aswel btw
questioning why +1 projectiles is useful (you did not mean the question is was more like "what is this trash") but +1 proj is very meta
my justice does 120m per shot, regardless of elemental, as 8 x 15 = 120, i'm counting damage cap per projectile without even lava pool multihit
as for flowing time procs, the description is mistranslated so i was confused
i was not talking about +1 projectiles
i was talking about the weapon
+1 projectiles is very obviously broken
in boundless/endless, yes they are
at most an extra 10m per shot
complaining about sub 10 being "elitist standard" before you tried it is kinda funny
considering that the best speedrunners can barely do sub7, yea, sub 10 seems overkill for a standard
10 mil is 10 mil wich isnt something worhtless
when i'm proccing combustion a million times, doing 120m per shot and theres like a million extra other bonuses, yes it is
very very big difference between sub 7 and sub 10 its alot alot harder to get sub 7 cuz the room for error is smaller at lower times
compared to elemental advantage which doubles my dps on another type of health
false
true
dude
i
fucking said
15m per projectile
do i need to lay out the math for 8 projectiles for you
do i also need to explain justice lava pools
then say 15mil per projectile not 120mil
anyhow im done with you since there is no reasoning or talking with you
lava pools deal 15m per 0.5s for 3.5s and it also spawns multiple
blocked :D
I don't mean to interrupt y'all but
nothing to interrupt so go ahead
@lucid nova do the critX inscription do anything for the piercing flame?
for the E
yes, but its not the best in endless
the ele share is for the combustion procs wich gives an extra form of dmg wich is much needed in endless
is there something you wouold change int he piercing flame pic you sent?
instead of 15mil its 15mil + 45mil(combustion)
whar?
the inscriptions on the piercing flame, are there better rolls for the blues that you'd go for instead?
there is one that would be better and thats replace any blue inscription with +0.2 proj on kill
oh shit that'd affect the E too? dayyum
it should, yes, as it's an extra +2 projectiles
I thought just the weapon damage. That's good to know.
yeah E copies all the inscriptions, projectile count and criX from the weapon
its like you shoot your piercing flame with ur E but the projectile is different
aye gotcha
and for the launcher it needs to be corrosive, the remaining skilpoints can be spend on whatever, most likely ascension fusion stuff
furthermore ofc all the weapon dmg you can get
also I'm not aware how good copycat is, I keep seeing everyone using it. is it that good?
its extremely OP
its better than overconsumption if you can keep up the stacks, idk how fast you play but as long as you are killing decently fast you will get alot of benefits
massive speed boost
if there are still things unclear feel free to ask
basicly copycat boosts ele chance aswel wich is really nice since your E benefits from it aswel, furthermore it gives a much needed cooldown reduction for your ability aswel
wha
I was thinking of using First Strike cos 5%damage for every bullet in magazine sounds strong, but this set up trumps it?
oh yea
first strike is good, but copycat is better
first strike is great if you get absurdly large mags though
its shit, its additive dmg wich is useless since you wont see anything below 15mil dmg after second boss
haha yeah I should stop relying on in game explainations.
yeah they are vague at times
btw most of the effects are stackable up to 3 times
tbh i wouldnt ever recomend first strike since its basicly the same as a few stacks dualedge
that might have answered why I got stuck at stage 83 honestly. thanks a bunch mate hahahahaah
on a 100 size mag it's +500% damage
so like, solid early on but id swap out eventually
no worries, btw did you know that you can reset the blessing guy in solo?
you can literally rig the craftsman
yeah I just discovered that ytd lol. but most of the time I play with my partner so yeah.
ngl hard af in multiplayer hahahah
but hey it's more fun to beat the timer togehter y'know
yeah then its not possible, incase you dont get the correct blessings right of the getgo you can go for counterviolence or overconsuption(watch out with ur scroll count and dont keep it when going into endless)
its alot harder in multiplayer cuz you have one less blessing from lonewolf
only did it like once in multiplayer and it was way to close lol, like 45sec left on the timer
Yo is this inscription good for the Dual Fang(compared to other gold inscriptions)? I feel like the elemental chance isn't that hard to proc and 40% base weapon damage isnt that high? (I'm not sure if the weapon damage factors the weapon dmg as u lvl it up.
cos i'm planning to use it along with these blues
I'm using dual fang because I just like the gun btw.
I will say no.
hmmmm yeah I kinda feel the same just need validation hahaahhhah
That exclusive inscription is great on its own if you know the effective way to use it. Unfortunately it also is stuck on a less-than-stellar weapon and gets worse the more times you can hit enemies.
Using it effectively, you get pretty much a permanent 50% Burning/Decay chance.
if i get the projectile+1 gold and 0.2 projec inscription I'm gonna proc more element cos I am hitting them more right? Real question.
plus I got the rof inscription and it's an agile enhanced
also does the weapon damage increase percentage take into account when we increase the weapon lvl or no just like the demon lore gimmick?
Technically yes, but in reality it'll still be worse than usual.
Combustion has a cooldown. Once you hit the limit to how fast you can inflict it, it's not going to apply any faster.
No idea, it was buffed at a point where I didn't much care to check.
ait thanks for the input
what are some fun gradual improvement builds?
Pupil
thunderstorm
i should try gradual improvement melee
that would be uh
silly
I tried the Firescale Rifle it was pretty fun. plus we can use the right click with Lei Luo's E.
also I got a question. The Revealer rifle, if we hold the ADS long enough does that mean all our shots become Crits?
A beauty innit @lucid nova
kinda want the +40% dmg to elites/bosses but I'll stick to the lucky shot blue cos at least it affects the normies too.
thats very very crisp, most certainly will carry stage 100+
might even be better than mine
Crispy
crazy
I just wanna claarify tho, since the monkey's E counts as a weapon damage, does it also mean it does not benefit from Skill Damage buffs?
correct
ait thanks a bunch
so just ignore all the skill dmg on monkey unless ur doing a secondary skill build
For the gluttony boss, does Enhanced Penetration bullet ignore his blue Shield when he's sucking us?
no
It does with explosive weapons
his health bar has invincibility until shield is down
yea explosives benefit from skill
which raises a question
does justice benefit from skill dmg bonuses?
also holy hell is qian sui silly
first character i want to skill build on
I notice there's a moment where his health bar doesnt say invincible, and I could damage it a bit even with his blue shield is up cos i had the normal penetration bullet. But I'm gonna test it again when I do have it. Not sure if my mind was playing tricks on me.
no it's during the sucking. but yeah I gotta confirm it. his health was invincible when it has invincible on the health. I'll try it out when I got the time.
either at the very start or end of it then
if you use that piercing flame with monkey you can ignore him entirely, he just dies instantly
hell yeah
but yeah it's gonna be good info if I am using other characters
and here I tot the bear was the faster one to kill
he is, usuallu
Do you have monkeys built for endless. Does Piercing Flame work?
@lucid nova
sorry for ping.
I wouldnt say "killer", its got some good use cases
Im on endless run 💀
Yeah that's a run killer on endless.
Can someone help me out? I can't figure out why I am taking shield damage every time I dash at the start of this run with monkey. I have 3 scrolls, sanguine relic, elemental magazine, and magic watch and the 2 remnants I have are overconsumption and essence drainer. Am I dumb and missing something simple or why would i be taking random dash damage?
To add onto that, it isn't just shield damage, once my shield gets depleted, it starts to hurt my actual hp as well.
Did u take a task from the training master?
Nope and only had a scalpel and a angelic aura. I was had only gotten through a single level in the first act as well with one ascension that boosted my lucky chance
Was Jungle of Thorns active?
Nope, no level modifiers. I'm super confused. I have roughly 200 hours and I've never experienced that before lol
what weapon should i be carrying for a essence chain build?
not if i get it before any ascension
it cant drop, if dont have any ascension before
very slim chance 
I found out how to keep my normal save and endless, boundless save up at the same time, dont need to exit the game when i want to switch anymore.

Yeah! Dont worry about the ping cuz its a proper question
Below this msg are some extra notes that are useful
whatever you like, since you will be spamming Q for the majority of ur game. i like it use starring
this but with 0.2 proj on kill
proj +1
Thanks
Other rare inscription should be 40% total dmg on boss, elite, right?
anything will work, i like crit stacking
What’s a good bunny build for endless/boundless?
sword spam and any high RoF weapon
Awesome thanks for the quick in out excited to try a bunny build.
very boring to play imo but tastes differ
does the star ring thing work ?
it have very high Rof
You need range.
Also I'm pretty sure star ring only consumes ammo on hit which can hinder the build.
sword spam on her does not care, as you won’t have time to consume ammo between uses anyways
@lucid nova u still play?
Idk how this happened
You got money.
From time to time i do a run but not very actively anymore
Mostlikely you got lucky roulette and it bugged out and tadaaa
Didn’t have the roulette.
there are many ways to bug it out i guess, i had it happen a few times aswel but still dont know for certain whats the cause
Yeah, I've had a few games where I sudden;y had 65k for some reason
No idea what causes it.
But when it does, it's pretty funny.
what stage is it
This was at the rest area in Duo Ford (or whatever it's called).
what
the fuck
how does that even happen
thats so broken
i need
@thorny solar can you send your scrolls, weapons and blessings?
Uh, gimme sec
I think my money bugged out at around the desert stage when I got 65k
At least that's when I noticed it. Then I picked up extravagant consumption and then that happened.
only scrolls that affect copper that you have are: hidden treasure, extravagant consumption, on the house (sorta), extra surprise, and thats it
@thorny solar can you replicate the bug?
Lmao no
I have no idea how it happens
I only noticed that it seems to happen to me in multiplayer
then ask your teammate if they hack coins.
Lol
Someone's hacking bruh.
H
does turtle secondary use weapon elemental adv?
Why would it?
no idea, is there any way to make it elemental? would be nicwe
Nope.
sadge
Closest Turtle gets to doing elemental with his skills is weapon damage with his Aspis Slams.
yeah i figured thats elemental
whatd be the best blessing to buff punches?
oh fuck i just got enhanced untold effort 
Power of the Ocean.
Let me guess. You found out that pausing the Fist Sensation timer for well over triple its duration is slightly effective.
yeah... holy FUCK the damage
Fun fact. Just using Power of the Ocean and Overconsumption, you can get Turtle's exclusive frame in the starting room.
LMFAOOO
scary
anyway holy fuck im skill damage capping already
yusdgfyugzsdyufgs
crazy ass blessing
my pinky hurts
400 stacks of fist sensation
i just broke gluttony's sucking shield with fist
holy FUCK
700 stacks of fist sensation
i'm scared
To put it into perspective, before Power of the Ocean was added, the upper limit to how many stacks you could get was around 150.
damn
i just realized i can hold lclick to spam fist lmao
anyway one dash moves me 18 meters now in the shield mode
dash should be jump cancellable
would the +60% base DMG here be multiplicative?
Doubt it.
yea turtle has some hella good skill links
turtle is just, imo, the single most broken skill build like GOD DAMN
this stuff is scary
Dog's grenades, Birb's cleave, Bunny's fatal bloom, Monke's essence chain, Li's blazing meteor and Owl's Falling Star all get the same bonus, but without the +3 capacity.
lol
Monke and Owl get it especially bad, because Monke's essence chain gets +150% base DMG ascensions instead of +100%.
Owl... Ha.
wait do base dmg ascensions increase damage multiplicatively either? or nope?
+60% base DMG for a skill that gets up to +600% base DMG instead of +300%, and is his worst build.
Technically yes, but only with other non-base DMG bonuses.
got it
Same as other "buckets" for DPS bonuses.
whats a bucket
The pool of combined bonuses.
btw do weapon dmg bonuses that aren't multiplicative add up with each other?
Includes, but not limited to:
• Base DMG (integer)
• Base DMG %
• General DMG % (Weapon/Skill/Elemental/Fire/Lightning/Corrosion/Explosion all count)
• CritX
• RoF
• Lucky Shot Chance
• Technically Magazine Capacity
ioa
All of these are additive with themselves, but multiplicative with other types.
would the +60% base dmg bonus here be multiplied by general dmg
Yes, but not with other base DMG% bonuses.
It'll suffer diminishing returns when you pick Clenched Fist.
Because it's also base DMG%.
then the total multiplied by multipliers like fist sensation and general dmg?
or am i missing something
Yes.
If you had +100% Base DMG, +100% General DMG and +100% from Fist Sensation you would get:
2 * 2 * 2 = 8
or 800% total.
If you added another +60% base DMG, you'd get
2.6 * 2 * 2 = 10.4
Or 1040% total.
hey, not bad
not as bad as it could be, at least
anyway, im p sure dog's and turtle's skills are the only ones that can open vaults
@fallen escarp is DMG Dealt (like from Bluff) multiplicative?
@fallen escarp why do u still mod forthis dog water game?
if it's so bad, why not leave?
it's an okay game, people have fun with it although it has flaws, why not leave it at that? the world doesn't revolve around your opinions
crazy concept right
because of the meme channel
the meme channel isnt anything insane
No, that's general DMG.
Because I like the game, just not the gameplay.
When If the gameplay improves, then I might play it again.
1 billion.
Ah, neat, thanks
how did you beat r9 with 1bil dmg??? i always end up with 4bil at the minimum
adding the dmg of ur teammates and its still under 4bil
🤷
What if you wanted to do a spiritual flame build, but god said...
I did an entertaining joke build on dog the other day. I call it Finders Keepers. The gimmick is that whenever a weapon drops, you have to use it (barring things that can't be dual-wielded).
i dualwielded with every weapon (that is dualwieldable) and tbh 90% of the weapons are the same, point and click and enemy dies
tbh dragon breath the new launcher was the most fun
y'all, what is better (for endless)?
doesnt matter all that much
wth
i was having a good run
saved and all
and when i came back warlike blade is broken now
wont proc
is there any fix or is the ascension perma bugged
well this is very annoying
ah well would have liked to end it off with +170% firerate dual demonlores but what can i do
probably got bugged out of hell from boundless
final stats i got excluding warlike blade cause idk wth happened
not the best but i like it
yeah but i probably could have gotten a perfect one with projectile on kill
didnt wanna risk it tho (no balls)
actually not that great of a roll, doesnt have projectile stacking, doesnt have homing
but hey these days it doesnt matter that much what roll you have
Unless it's Endless Journey. Though that might be subject to change anyway.
hey, is this good enough for endless with monkey @lucid nova
hell yeah that would work great
if you find a red chest that can change expanded to fierce that would be even better, though its not neccesary
imo not a fan of homing cause it makes me lazy for a couple seconds
the whole game is lazy atm......
ok you got me there i just wanted the guns to have somewhat matching inscriptions
just rof on crit and projectiles
i wanna do a double brick dog build but ik full well its gonna end up killing way slower than demonlore will later in the run
yeah, but if you are playing with a "broken" weapon might aswel go full in with it
brick dog is one of the most fun dualwields i did
you think turtle or owl would work better with revealer
acttually
would bunny work better cause they got that firerate blessing
not like demonlore counts as the “broken gun” when you get into endless
its gimmick is strong prior to it
It's probably only broken on Normal/Elite/Nightmare.
With all the extra copper you can get for leveling up weapons on Reincarnation, other weapons just outscale it.
What's going on in boundless ? Last stage of normal I'm one tapping every mob with fatal current and first stage of boundless I need 10 lightnings to kill a normal crossbowman. Wtf is happening ? You can't convince me it's 1% damage resist per stage
Their health increases too.
Besides, you should definitely have the damage to cover it. If you don't, doesn't matter because you have all the time in the world.

I have been struggling with trying to get the endless achievement ever since the damn thing came out, so is there any way to easily go through it
I have been using monkey Q spam build
that does sound horrible for endless
I mean the build one-two shot everything until endless
If it two shot before endless, it's gonna take longer to kill in endless.
Because of dmg reduction.
If it two shot before endless, it's below average.
playing solo or duo
I only play solo
you want to do +10/20 mil dps at that point i believe
I mean I honestly don't even know how to do that much damage without getting lucky with scrolls and stuff of that nature
aigh i recomend you as an starting blessing "Counterviolence"
or "Overconsumption" or "Copycat"
or play "Lone Wolf" bizarre dream and grab "counterviolence" or "copycat" as initial blessing
it should be enough to make first rooms easier
I will give her a try
I have a question:,How does Fish os Bear Paw work
How do Tao weapon builds hold up in Reincarnation compared to her skill builds?
halves your damage but does the same hit one more time
for each projectile of your weapon, theres a chance to half the damage and deal extra damage once
good for when you hit beyond the damage cap, now when you shoot once you can deal damage cap twice
Sound goood.
yeah
theres no loss for that scroll
your dmg is still 100% even if the effect happens, cause its 50%x2
wep build with a focus on spamming swords is better than her pure skill builds imo
I'm confused; I just did reincarn 9 with every Bizarre Dream active (except boundless dream but I turned on Endless Journey) beat every boss but at the end, instead of it letting me continue... it just took me back to the inn?
What starting blessing should I take for that?
did you go to the wrong portal by accident
there was only 1 portal
was an insanely strong run to, so kinda dissapointed
lone wolf: counterviolence
longling: save quit till you get overconsumption
What if multiplayer?
anything that lowers countdown should be your first pick
if not, anything that increases your rate of fire
Well you just missclick the endless button.
is there even a difference between endless Journey and Boundless Dream?
Yess
whats the difference? besides one requiring you to be in reincarn 9 obviously
#gunfire-faq message
endless: 60 scrolls hard limit (cursed ones dont go to that count), hard limit on goblets (goblets obtained during endless can only replace old ones), no vaults
boundless: no scroll limit, act bosses drop goblets that gives you new acension, theres vaults
oh yeah endless is timed too
boundless you can just go at your own pace
boundless seems more fun, limitations are bleh but I can see the appeal of endless
endless has harsher damage scaling (starting at 20% DR and +2% every stage then its +0.2% past stage 40 or something)
boundless starts at 0% DR iirc
Just got out of a run with Qing Yan and a Thorny Carpace build, halfway through the carapace was doing all the workd
and adds 0.2% per stage
yeah beating the clock gives me a sweet rush
Would love to have an option to slap a timer into boundless but is what it is
just recently bought one of the dlcs, I wanted the brick
Here you go.
tryingh to get the brick to start a run, wonder hw long itll take me
Does it increase fivefold ?
does the "attack speed" from nimble finger affect rof?
They're the same thing, so yes.
thats the thing with Tao, she does both at the same time
whats the chance for wind god to spawn
i think 50/50
ive been playing for 3 hours and havent encountered him yet
have you defeated the other boss 5 times already and unlocked him yet?
if yes, then is your luck getting the boss up than anything else
well, i think it's your luck if is that so
i need new luck
sAME
well, i think that you can always ask somebody around here if it wants to play coop with you
How do you effectively use Star Ring? its so clunky
Dont use
Is dual wield brick good?
Or would dual wielding it with another weapon be better
what is better on the owl Q spam build or ult spam build
Q Spam imo
ty
finally got it after 4 hours and 30 minutes
Insane RNG there
yup i had time to get a lvl 866 weapon before he showed up
hmm
gamer scalpel
better with a different weapon but imo brick is more fun
?????
my weapon doesnt have element 

weapon cap is 10mil, and you get a 25% true dmg penalty cuz you are using the wrong element (probably shock on hp in this case)
right element = 50% multi and cap increase so that would be 15mil (if you hit a shield you would get that with shock dmg)
thanks
also explain how 7mil +5mil is 7500000
make that 300 stage xD.
There's a lightning symbol beside the number, that means it's lightning DMG.
What spiritual blessings should I take with thorny bloom?
My bad
I meant like the elemental made it 7.49 but even then im still wrong lol
Typed that in a rush so i didnt think
Sleep deprivation and its consequences
what does the shield under my hp mean?
I think that’s your damage resistance? Could be wrong
Yep its dmg resistance you are right
do we have a list of the best elemental ascensions for each character? cause thorns seems best for grenade builds
Monke should go with thorn
Because monke has an acension that procs primary school for x hits of secondary
And thorn can proc secondary skill
i can only agree to that if going an secondary skill run with xing zhe
I tend to just either go the lightning one if I’m playing for primary skill build and thorny if secondary (or just be tanky because thorn gear dog go haha)
If you arent focusing on procing skills then the elemental pulse is a good pick imo, reduced miasma intervals helps to increase your damage output
And also that thing can deal a lot of heavy damage when you pick the special effects one and the special effects just burst through 1 enemy
Cudgel can see some use too if that one acension that procs cudgel from x hits of secondary is picked, used that as a band aid for my low cudgel cooldown till i decreased it
Thorny bloom with carapace can literally play the game for you and you just have to walk around basically
Thunder step is generally cool too if you hate your fingers and just want to mash shift, its very effective to clear rooms instantly at low DR endless stages or pre endless journey acts
And you can pick thunderous arcanum to store damage to one shot bosses too
Honestly i cant imagine how they will make season 2 stuff more powerful
I picked the weirdest time to come back to this game and switch off being a bird main because I’ve never experienced stuff this op before 💀
Bird buff next season please 😭 hes so weak rn
Idek the meta for bird now i only remember easy kill cleave spam lol
as what i can tell, my burst damage with thunder hits like a nuke with strucked enemies
yes, its mashing shift but for me its not a big deal
but other than that i think every character its flexible with every arcane ascention
if you know what you're doing of course
Lantern farming 💀
Tried a concealed ammo build with the dog last night while doing boundless with my friend and suffered
Ammo burn time
I was struggling to kill jokul enemies on the first round through 😭
Yeah, we always do it just felt worse because he was melting with bunny
Aw hell nah
Bros playing meta queen
Meta DPS queen
Yeah you were bound to be left behind at that point
Just how the game works now unfortunately
It was my first time playing boundless too 💀
At that point just alt tab and watch a video essay
I get you tho concealed ammo is fun
I started just scrolling TikTok and then picking up the gold left behind
First time i got it i was like holy shit borderlands 2 tediore weapon is in this game wtf
He had 3 bil dmg by the time I hit 300m
Idk what dog build to run for endless
Boundless*
My fav is dual thunder storm
Gemini is both have mag capacity 1
Top acension to pick is the one reducing reload time
Painkiller id assume?
Yep that and counterviolence
Alternate gemini is literally anything else but you have the magazine capacity extending spiritual link
Then you pick first strike blessing
This gemini is better tho cause it increases total wep dmg
Because the damage bonus is multiplicative
With this you can keep up with bunny until the point where rof matters more
But you will still be a good dmg dealer to soften enemies a lot
Is there a way to block someone so I don't keep joining their lobby?
Dudes sitting afk in r1 and every time I search for a game, I keep getting connected to theirs
We run ascension fusion just to spice things up so hopefully I get some rof ones
Oh wait nvm thunder storm isn’t really affected by rof right so ☹️
You can fire a bit faster
WAIT EXPLOSION DAMAGE IS INCREASED BY SKILL DAMAGE?
Get the dog sharpshooter acension that boosts rof by 30%
Yep
I’m low key pissed I didn’t know that 💀
I found out some time ago in this server too 😭
Do buffs to weapon damage improve it too though or only explosive damage?
So this just continually stacks up % dmg?
and since it says "all" that applies to skills to right?
5 achievements left til 100% :)
yes
neat
the 500 copper can be kind of annoying tho
i wish there was a way to see how much % its stacked
I'm doing a run where I don't even need to shoot a gun so upgrading weapons isnt an issue 😛
like, i was trying to engrave one of my weapons and it took me like 3 scenes before i got the money for it
gotcha
then ball out
Lightning cat pure skill dmg build
same but this build is mad fun and Its not even high rolled yet, I only have 1/3 chain lightning dmg bost and I don't have lightning shard
Lightning tiger, mb
the sniper guy
i like the turtle the most tbh
i love getting so fast that i cant even tell whats happening
he hurts my hands tho, so i dont play him often
i could never get into the turtle
but I've managed to just now clear reincarn 9 with this mage build essentially
nicee
oh thats fun
boss kill time is a bit slow, so hopefully i can get the dchain lightning dmg ascension soon
my luck has been horrible
So does this have any actual benefit? Its the one scroll I just don't get
Did they remove the scroll for HP on kil? I swear ive never seen it
veteran? nope
Ah so 10 recycles max
and ooh scrolls givee more skill dmg...
The game refuses to give me veteran and lightning shard ;-; it doesnt want me to become a true god
I don't think my crit.x can get any higher at this rate
It can.
how?
Gradual Improvement blessing.
doesn't that go away when you shoot tho?
hm
You only lose stacks if you don't make a crit hit.
ya thats better then counter violence
gain 8% more
which nets me 400% more skill dmg
Well I'm running High Powered Arc, Armored Caster/Counterviolence
Chain Lightning build
does this entail using your primary 500 times, or taunting 500 enemies? little confused on the wording
I wish I had a way to track my % like Lucky chance/crit/skilldmg etc
like in the C side menu maybe
How many stages of Boundless Dream will it take to find Veteran; ;-;
its p low
damn thats pretty
mid
mid? what's great then ?!
that was i thinkkkk 400ish? forgot
Damn, the 2nd one i what I'm running with right now hen the lightnig bolts aren't enough
weak
yea, keeping an eye out for a better bow; Like bows the best
or a Brick if there better
Actually a good roll ngl
Got projectiles, homing and its exclusive will shred anything
Hope you didnt discard that one...
I did; the guy to save it wasn't anywhere near and I didn't wanna give up my other bow for the crit x
You can store it in your backpack....
Hover over the weapon, it gives a prompt to store it
Also that reavealer would have done way more dmg than strikewing
with 1 shot?
Strikewing sucks in endless cuz its to slow and lacks aoe
Also would recommend not taking advice for rolls from randos, not everyone knows what they are talking about
Decent, though without abusing piercing flame with monkey i would go for a bloody drill on lei (or woodpecker)
this builds potential is still lacking hardcore
still missing 2 scrolls to get 120% more skill dmg pmuch
Looks like a poor choice of ascensions tbh
Counter violence + caster isnt that great
I'm running a chain lightning build
Then its even worse
Its only 50%, not a multiplier, and it locks you from using good weapons in endless
And counterviolence on skill builds is always a no
so the wording is wrong?
Furthermore, chain build in endless isnt very viable unless you use t&g
Nothing wrong about it
Yeah
isnt it 50 x 18?
Yeah
No, considering its general dmg and not a multiplier
For example, t&g gives a (i think) 1200% multiplier on your thunderbolts
Also the thunder bolts you get from bolt from the blue
I'm only early stages stage 23; but reincarn 9, It clears things pretty effortlessly so far atm
Anything clears r9, no build required for thay
I do wanna switch to T&G, it just hasnt been offered to me yet
That
I used to struggle with Hard dificulty when I first got this game, I'm pretty shit lmao
Being shit is fine tbh, as long as you are learning
And taking advice (from the right ppl)
If the game doesnt give you t&g go for skill freak, im 99% sure its a multiplier
Ill keep that in mind, I plan on pushing this as far as I can as im having a ton of fun with this build
Atleast you picked copycat as lone wolf thing and not overconsumption wich is great
just dropping lightning all over the place is so much fun
Copycat is so strong imo , always go with it
Trust me it can be terrible aswel, im not epileptic at all but my lated lei build made me question that
haha sometimes it goes wild, so i can see that
Most of the times yeah, if im not looping i prefer overconsumption sometimes
Nothing beats the satisfaction of thundernemesis spam imo
Damn. Veteran, Elemental Relic, or Rich's Privileges
Riches is meh since you have extravagant consumption, normally its really good tho
So it sets the digit furthest to the left to 1 and rerolls all the other digits following everytime you leave a level
Very potent with extravagant, it can also bug out extravagant and give you 60k stacks instantly wich is fun (dont know how it triggers, sometimes it just happens)
Ima sleep now
neat
thanks for all ur info
super helpful; I only came back recently as i saw it got updates and been having so much fun
f break the ice removed my bolt from the blue
doesnt woodpecker have a chance to get homing?
No
I wish we could refresh the spiritual remnent in boundless dream
should i reroll these?
Why is it capping at 4 projectiles?
+0.2 cap at 2
Luck issue
So.... the mobs have spirit feline active
and all of my spells oneshot
but instead of oneshotting ,they're doing 0 dmg...
nvm they started taking dmg now thank god
Is there anything that needs to be changed?
Thats a good acension setup
Honestly im not sure abt this one
Guys! Good news!
After tomorrow, i can finally play Steam games again, which also means i can finally play the new season thing :D
Hopefully i'm not late yet :'D
i did this myself https://gfrbuilder.com/Tao?bl=41%2C43%2C5&sc=148%2C153%2C143%2C146%2C86%2C13&sk=101100133010311013&lw=8&w=12%2C21&g=172&g2=172
to shove it somewhere
it doubles its dmg
wouldn't be better blade of bloom?
that would mean you don't shoot
it works with sword enthusiasts, you get a bit more of bonus
doesn't it pop blade of bloom with blossom enthusiast?
well but it does with flower chain doesn't it? you can get not the full boost but a big one
all for the sake of never stop shooting
nope
How about the gemini inscription
this
aww
i just did mag for dmg
imagine
seriously tho I would run with crit damage on nona or lei luo
for some reason I get consistent crits with this weapon
Actually, my pic is endless, I hit the dmg cap every hit. That's why i asked.
Which weapon in the off hand is the best, for spore.
Argus
Argus or hell with extra projectile inscription
and porcupine?
porc for specificaly hitting as frequently as possible, shit dmg tho
that true
Same as the weapon damage cap.
Thanks
just got reminded that Bet It All says nothing about crit, yet it gives
Yeah wanted to ask that when you were showing the high crit owl weapon
as it increases crit damage aswel?
got hit with Interdependant fortune
oh no
Bloody Ammo bugged out and doesn't work after i pick up Deposit Ammo and drop it.
idk is it true or not, but that's the only thing i do before BA broken.
?
mag capacity
What is that
I have nothing to increase mag capacity
I picked up Deposit ammo and something wrong happened. Ammo capacity increases to 999 then reset back 0, and the loop continue
Increase with each shot..
Random bonus for Wildcard
unironically deserve #hall-of-fame for this
How much does multiplayer scale up enemy health?
It goes 100%, 300%, 500% and 700% for 1, 2, 3 and 4 players respectively.
On Reincarnation 8+, that becomes 100%, 500%, 900% and 1300%.
So that’s why me and my friend felt so weak on like the second boundless loop 💀
Once i can play GFR again, i'll begin asking everything about this seasonal thingamajic something, as i currently don't understand anything from outside sources.
basically it turned thunder step, elemental pulse and thorny carapace scrolls into another ascension (ig)
dash spam
cooler elemental effects
thorny carapace on steroids
simply put
i was scammed by thorny carapace cause i thought it was "cause you to use secondary skill" not "proc secondary skill"
wanted to go full on star platinum turtle
Anyone know about this?
And then...you have new objectives you have to complete before thecurrent seasonal is over?
How do you use thorny bloom nowadays ? You just spam the fck outa your swords ?
mash q
or whatever you bound secondary skill to
I think you missed the latest rework
and yep make swords go inside enemy too
not a fan of it
i have to press a button now instead of letting blossom enthu proc it
Before the rework, they would've been wrong.
Because before the rework, how you'd use it is "get Blossom Enthusiast first, then shoot everything."
new one has higher dmg potential though if im not wrong
Before the rework I went with thorny first because you got so much damage at max stacks you didn't even need to use a gun
I think I even did gunless tao this way
yeah
though its mostly for the season pass rewards
unless you're low on essence
Best monkey build for boundless?
That looks cracked, haven't really got around to using this weapon yet
You came at the right time
Piercing flame with the “◈ +100% Weapon DMG for each enemy the ammo pierces and an additional damage is applied to all enemies it has passed through” inscription
Take It All blessing and an offhand corrosion launcher
Ultimate Firearm makes it easier for you to find a piercing flame with that inscription
If you dont want to find a corrosion launcher then just use any launcher as the offhand but take painkiller too
I'm in literal pain, over the game refusing to give me veteran
What should be my starting blessing? Take it all? Or like overcomp for early damage
If you are solo lone wolf counterviolence if not then overconsumption
The goal is to survive till duo fjord stage 3 to withdraw the piercing flame
Yeah I’m gonna be duo so I’ll overcomp
Or ultimate firearm but play more carefully
Withdraw?
From the transdescent arsenal
We don’t play with that on normally I’ll check it out though lmao
Ah no worries one of you have ultimate firearm then
And just share piercing flame with that inscription
Wait do you mind if you overshadow your friend by a lot
Cause this build will leave anyone else in the dust
He runs thorny bloom bunny he’ll be alright being the weak one for once 💀
VETERAN FINALLY
Hahaha let them bunny mains know
Rng finally smiles upon you
only required stage 85 of boundless dream

appreciate it.