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fallen escarp
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Wouldn't be surprised if they caved into removing the cap as well. Not like it's the first time they've caved into the demands of people for things the game was never designed to handle.

blazing summit
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i think ive become addicted to playing the dog no other character feels as fun 💀

soft jasper
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arcane thunder exists so damage can easily reach tens of billions without issue

blazing summit
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what are good spiritual blessings for soul strike build, ive got painkiller and dimensional strike atm

fallen escarp
# soft jasper the game has no reason to be unable to handle it though...

It has no reason to be unable to handle it now, and that might still only be a possibility if crashes still happen.

Remember, they added in Thunderous Arcanum and increased the enemy max HP increase only after they added Endless, and they did the HP increase in response to Endless which was the first thing the game wasn't designed to handle.

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So the only reason why the game might have a chance of adding in something it couldn't handle is because the devs added in something it couldn't handle then were required to fix it.

soft jasper
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okay that is fair

lucid nova
soft jasper
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it's literal madness

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also clash royale ass laugh when he kills an enemy

lucid nova
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or play lei luo and press one button and everything is wiped

fallen escarp
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I don't like Dog or Bunny.

Dog because he relies on HP and I vastly prefer Shields/Armor, and Bunny because I'm not a fan of continuous firing weapons.

lucid nova
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can agree on the bunny one, i like hp cuz funny resolute

soft jasper
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yea

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resolute and fnb

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so silly

lucid nova
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if there was a resolute for shields somehow then i'd prefer shields

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furthermore dog gets out dmg'ed almost everyone cuz he needs to aim

fallen escarp
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It's something more satisfying where you have to rely on your own strategy to survive effectively, rather than relying on something that doesn't care how you play.

lucid nova
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even doge and strafe spam keeps you alive 90% of the time

fallen escarp
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Talking about when not dying actually mattered.

lucid nova
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true, just press that revive button on your friend

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or get soul ferryman and get an extra revive solo

fallen escarp
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Or just shoot the enemy.

lucid nova
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very true

soft jasper
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for that matter

lucid nova
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tbh its kinda hard dying after desert 2 cuz everything dies in one hit

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that is if you dont have a god run

fallen escarp
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And if you do have a god run, everything dies 0.1s after spawning.

soft jasper
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i play a lot of melee

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so

fallen escarp
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You also play Nona. Dying is irrelevant.

soft jasper
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mostly just ao bai and cat

fallen escarp
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Painkiller, huh? Dying is irrelevant.

soft jasper
fallen escarp
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Start with Eye of Providence and Steady Profit, then say that again.

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Unless you get Enhanced Mid-Air Strike, then congrats.

soft jasper
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but sure

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will do

fallen escarp
cobalt dock
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@soft jasper you know how much -less has warped your view, right?

soft jasper
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yes

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my stupid ass cant beat longling 75% of the time

cobalt dock
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the norm for most is stll just a run to monarch and end

soft jasper
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boring

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the only time where stress isnt at max is jokul and thats like 2 stages

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boundless is fun the first few loops

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endless is

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uh

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top 10 ways how to get carpal tunnel

soft jasper
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though you get another chance at getting an upgrade chest

fallen escarp
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The best you're gonna get out of that are enhanced scrolls or a goblet, maybe a couple if you're lucky, but for the price of an entire blessing is that really worth it?

soft jasper
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fair enough

fallen escarp
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It's significantly better when you get countless bonus chests as you effortlessly tear through dozens of stages.

soft jasper
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i should try blessingless r9

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for the goofs

fallen escarp
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Should be somewhat difficult.

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Might even struggle with Nona. Emphasis on "might".

lucid nova
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the worst thing i ever did was foundry only no blessings r9 wich was pure shit tbh

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took me 3hrs

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would never redo that shit

soft jasper
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bird blessingless r9 :3

desert trout
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Just got paranormality and penetration bullet

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It’s gaming time

fallen escarp
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I loved the part where they said "It's paranormalitying time" and paranormalitied all over those guys.

soft jasper
fallen escarp
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Tiger Cannon, both in shot and stats.

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Deafening Mortar's weapon skill is also in shot, but not in stats.

soft jasper
soft jasper
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in area covered

soft jasper
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cause it's a constantly active aoe that goes any distance instead of aoe being activated on hit

primal dagger
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quick question. if i lose a daily and then go back and beat it on my second try do i get progress towards the complete 5 different daily challenge achievement?

soft jasper
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obviously

primal dagger
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idk usually in my mind daily means one attempt

lucid nova
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@soft jasper i dualwield combo'd every weapon to see wich is best

soft jasper
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uh huh

lucid nova
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Thunderstorm is the clear winner btw

soft jasper
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uh huh

lucid nova
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Pushed every skill to its limit, even all 3 seasonal thingies, all the dailies, speedrunning, glitching, breaking the game, you name it

soft jasper
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uh huh

lucid nova
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Atleast used every weapon for a full run (as in got the weapon before the first boss)

soft jasper
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uh huh

lucid nova
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And yea furthermore nothing left

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Can say i enjoyed the 600hrs i put into the game but now its just a wait

soft jasper
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justice prism dog.

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very silly build

lucid nova
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If i need to do specific weapon combos with dual wield i need to put in 1000+ hrs, and all the results are the same cuz dog boring

soft jasper
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dog boring lmfao

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idk what you dont like about the madness but alrite

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look, if the game's so boring to you, why not leave and play something else?

lucid nova
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Click and shoot and thingy dies, either to an explosion, combustion proc, spores explosion regular hit

soft jasper
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why are you still here then setting elitist standards like "the unofficial standard for a speedrun is only under 10 minutes"

lucid nova
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Last time i did more than 3 runs in 3 days is alteast 3months ago

soft jasper
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it is

lucid nova
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You never tried so how can you say that

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Try it out before complaining

soft jasper
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uh huh

lucid nova
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Simple guide for the easiest sub 10 possible:
R1
Spores
Lone wolf overconsumption
Any character and any blessing
No vaults

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All you need

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And dont backtrack, if you do these things you cant fail

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You would need to throw on purpose no not get sub 10 with this piss easy braindead setup, you dont even need to aim

soft jasper
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obv getting sub 10 with a piss easy setup is going to be easy

lucid nova
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Exactly! So is the standard elitist? No

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If you wanna make your own life harder, go for it but dont complain about "elitist standards"

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Btw another trick to make it easier, use the pityfiles on speedrun.com saves you time on some bad layouts, and these days you even have the seasonal stuff to make it more trivial

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For other difficulties sub 10 CAN be hard with bad rng but should be doable (with some exceptions)

lilac bramble
lucid nova
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go for it! i belive anyone can do sub 10

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also looks good on profile stats if you care about that

lilac bramble
# lucid nova go for it! i belive anyone can do sub 10

u got any tips for endless journey to stage 100 tho? I think I heard someone did like 1000 plus stage using enhanced penetration bullet + paranormality Interdependent Fortune, but I think I wanna try to reach a hundred without using that strat.

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Furthest I've gotten so far is stage 83 with cat and tiger and bird.

lucid nova
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you should try piercing flame monkey, tho it does require a really really good piercing flame for it to pop off

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i did it that way and it was pretty doable, i could have gone longer but got bored lol

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the one i used

lilac bramble
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mind telling me why piercing flame? I'm not too familiar with monkey I just know his E is counts as weapon damage

lucid nova
soft jasper
lucid nova
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basicly exponetionally scales dmg the more you hit

soft jasper
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exclusive inscription cap is 3

lucid nova
lilac bramble
soft jasper
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oh

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does that mean

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i can get a 7 inscription weapon

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put it in my vault

lilac bramble
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welp looks like it's time for me to learn the ways of the monkey

soft jasper
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and take it out as another character

lucid nova
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in bed rn so yea

lilac bramble
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wait, so I should just focus on any inscriptions that boost the weapon damage right?

lucid nova
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yeah, the one thats essential is this one

soft jasper
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useful

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2 projectiles

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lmao

lucid nova
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how is it not useful?

soft jasper
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my justice does 8

lilac bramble
soft jasper
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and has more rof

lucid nova
soft jasper
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how are you even going to get that piercing flame at stage 1

lucid nova
soft jasper
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also what is stopping it from killing bosses through invincibilitu

soft jasper
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what fucking blessing

lilac bramble
soft jasper
lucid nova
lucid nova
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also ew..... spores

soft jasper
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i run elemental advantage on it

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spores are worthless

lucid nova
soft jasper
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it only does

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at most

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30m per shot

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my justice can do 120 in a single shot

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not counting bonuses such as elemental mag, explosive bullets, or fish and bear paw

lucid nova
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wrong again buddy it instakills anything cuz funny piercing flame monkey, now pls stop yapping about stuff that you dont even know how they work

soft jasper
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uh huh

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again

lilac bramble
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uhhh Hisami, I think his main dmaage doesnt come frfom shooting his weapon bnut from his E which gets buffed from the weapon he's holding?

soft jasper
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what is stopping this justice from doing the same

soft jasper
lucid nova
lilac bramble
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yeah2 thanks I think I get it now

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time to go boundless lol

soft jasper
lucid nova
lucid nova
soft jasper
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  1. prove that it isn't true
  2. you're "yapping" without explaining anything, insulting me for no real reason and acting like you are above all else
lucid nova
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like you are saying stuff before you even consider something else

lilac bramble
lucid nova
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need me to say more?

lucid nova
lucid nova
soft jasper
soft jasper
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i was talking about the weapon

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+1 projectiles is very obviously broken

soft jasper
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at most an extra 10m per shot

lucid nova
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complaining about sub 10 being "elitist standard" before you tried it is kinda funny

soft jasper
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considering that the best speedrunners can barely do sub7, yea, sub 10 seems overkill for a standard

lucid nova
soft jasper
lucid nova
soft jasper
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compared to elemental advantage which doubles my dps on another type of health

soft jasper
lucid nova
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send proof

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90mil is the max combustion cap

soft jasper
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dude

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i

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fucking said

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15m per projectile

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do i need to lay out the math for 8 projectiles for you

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do i also need to explain justice lava pools

lucid nova
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then say 15mil per projectile not 120mil

soft jasper
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120mil per shot

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without other bonuses or multihit

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as i said earlier

lucid nova
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anyhow im done with you since there is no reasoning or talking with you

soft jasper
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lava pools deal 15m per 0.5s for 3.5s and it also spawns multiple

lucid nova
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blocked :D

soft jasper
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awesome

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finally some peace of mind

lilac bramble
lucid nova
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nothing to interrupt so go ahead

lilac bramble
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@lucid nova do the critX inscription do anything for the piercing flame?

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for the E

lucid nova
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yes, but its not the best in endless

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the ele share is for the combustion procs wich gives an extra form of dmg wich is much needed in endless

lilac bramble
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is there something you wouold change int he piercing flame pic you sent?

lucid nova
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instead of 15mil its 15mil + 45mil(combustion)

lilac bramble
# lucid nova whar?

the inscriptions on the piercing flame, are there better rolls for the blues that you'd go for instead?

lucid nova
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there is one that would be better and thats replace any blue inscription with +0.2 proj on kill

lilac bramble
soft jasper
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it should, yes, as it's an extra +2 projectiles

lilac bramble
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I thought just the weapon damage. That's good to know.

lucid nova
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its like you shoot your piercing flame with ur E but the projectile is different

lilac bramble
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aye gotcha

lucid nova
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and for the launcher it needs to be corrosive, the remaining skilpoints can be spend on whatever, most likely ascension fusion stuff

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furthermore ofc all the weapon dmg you can get

lilac bramble
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also I'm not aware how good copycat is, I keep seeing everyone using it. is it that good?

lucid nova
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its extremely OP

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its better than overconsumption if you can keep up the stacks, idk how fast you play but as long as you are killing decently fast you will get alot of benefits

lucid nova
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if there are still things unclear feel free to ask

soft jasper
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also massive health boost n other stuff

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230k hp :)

lucid nova
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basicly copycat boosts ele chance aswel wich is really nice since your E benefits from it aswel, furthermore it gives a much needed cooldown reduction for your ability aswel

soft jasper
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wha

lilac bramble
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I was thinking of using First Strike cos 5%damage for every bullet in magazine sounds strong, but this set up trumps it?

soft jasper
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oh yea

soft jasper
lucid nova
soft jasper
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first strike is great if you get absurdly large mags though

lucid nova
lilac bramble
# lucid nova

haha yeah I should stop relying on in game explainations.

lucid nova
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yeah they are vague at times

lucid nova
# lucid nova

btw most of the effects are stackable up to 3 times

lucid nova
lilac bramble
soft jasper
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on a 100 size mag it's +500% damage

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so like, solid early on but id swap out eventually

lucid nova
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no worries, btw did you know that you can reset the blessing guy in solo?

soft jasper
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you can literally rig the craftsman

lilac bramble
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ngl hard af in multiplayer hahahah

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but hey it's more fun to beat the timer togehter y'know

lucid nova
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yeah then its not possible, incase you dont get the correct blessings right of the getgo you can go for counterviolence or overconsuption(watch out with ur scroll count and dont keep it when going into endless)

lucid nova
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only did it like once in multiplayer and it was way to close lol, like 45sec left on the timer

lilac bramble
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cos i'm planning to use it along with these blues

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I'm using dual fang because I just like the gun btw.

mellow cosmos
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I will say no.

lilac bramble
fallen escarp
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That exclusive inscription is great on its own if you know the effective way to use it. Unfortunately it also is stuck on a less-than-stellar weapon and gets worse the more times you can hit enemies.

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Using it effectively, you get pretty much a permanent 50% Burning/Decay chance.

lilac bramble
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plus I got the rof inscription and it's an agile enhanced

lilac bramble
fallen escarp
fallen escarp
blazing summit
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what are some fun gradual improvement builds?

cobalt dock
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Pupil

lucid nova
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thunderstorm

soft jasper
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that would be uh

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silly

lilac bramble
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also I got a question. The Revealer rifle, if we hold the ADS long enough does that mean all our shots become Crits?

lilac bramble
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A beauty innit @lucid nova

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kinda want the +40% dmg to elites/bosses but I'll stick to the lucky shot blue cos at least it affects the normies too.

lucid nova
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might even be better than mine

bleak quest
soft jasper
lilac bramble
lucid nova
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correct

lilac bramble
lucid nova
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so just ignore all the skill dmg on monkey unless ur doing a secondary skill build

lilac bramble
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For the gluttony boss, does Enhanced Penetration bullet ignore his blue Shield when he's sucking us?

soft jasper
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no

soft jasper
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his health bar has invincibility until shield is down

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yea explosives benefit from skill

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which raises a question

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does justice benefit from skill dmg bonuses?

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also holy hell is qian sui silly

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first character i want to skill build on

lilac bramble
soft jasper
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thats while he isnt sucking

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he has a small shield after it

lilac bramble
soft jasper
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either at the very start or end of it then

lucid nova
lilac bramble
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but yeah it's gonna be good info if I am using other characters

lilac bramble
soft jasper
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he is, usuallu

mellow cosmos
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run killer

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who even invented this scroll

mellow cosmos
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@lucid nova BlobRoll sorry for ping.

kind void
mellow cosmos
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Im on endless run 💀

glad iris
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Yeah that's a run killer on endless.

limpid ivy
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Can someone help me out? I can't figure out why I am taking shield damage every time I dash at the start of this run with monkey. I have 3 scrolls, sanguine relic, elemental magazine, and magic watch and the 2 remnants I have are overconsumption and essence drainer. Am I dumb and missing something simple or why would i be taking random dash damage?

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To add onto that, it isn't just shield damage, once my shield gets depleted, it starts to hurt my actual hp as well.

lilac bramble
limpid ivy
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Nope and only had a scalpel and a angelic aura. I was had only gotten through a single level in the first act as well with one ascension that boosted my lucky chance

wraith token
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Was Jungle of Thorns active?

limpid ivy
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Nope, no level modifiers. I'm super confused. I have roughly 200 hours and I've never experienced that before lol

blazing summit
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what weapon should i be carrying for a essence chain build?

soft jasper
mellow cosmos
soft jasper
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it did

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once

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got it in first vault

mellow cosmos
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very slim chance AA_Miyano_Hyped

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I found out how to keep my normal save and endless, boundless save up at the same time, dont need to exit the game when i want to switch anymore.

lucid nova
lucid nova
lucid nova
mellow cosmos
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@lucid nova what are the ideal scripts

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Does those exclusive enough

lucid nova
mellow cosmos
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I will roll on that one.

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Also perfect 1000 dmg

mellow cosmos
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Projects +1
or
+15% dmg when triggering elemental

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@lucid nova 😗

lucid nova
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proj +1

mellow cosmos
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Thanks

lucid nova
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proj +1 is one of the best in endless

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even outside of endless its great

mellow cosmos
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Other rare inscription should be 40% total dmg on boss, elite, right?

lucid nova
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anything will work, i like crit stacking

limpid ivy
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What’s a good bunny build for endless/boundless?

lucid nova
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sword spam and any high RoF weapon

limpid ivy
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Awesome thanks for the quick in out excited to try a bunny build.

lucid nova
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very boring to play imo but tastes differ

mellow cosmos
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it have very high Rof

glad iris
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You need range.

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Also I'm pretty sure star ring only consumes ammo on hit which can hinder the build.

cobalt dock
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sword spam on her does not care, as you won’t have time to consume ammo between uses anyways

void quail
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@lucid nova u still play?

thorny solar
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Idk how this happened

fallen escarp
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You got money.

lucid nova
lucid nova
thorny solar
lucid nova
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there are many ways to bug it out i guess, i had it happen a few times aswel but still dont know for certain whats the cause

thorny solar
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Yeah, I've had a few games where I sudden;y had 65k for some reason
No idea what causes it.

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But when it does, it's pretty funny.

soft jasper
thorny solar
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This was at the rest area in Duo Ford (or whatever it's called).

soft jasper
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what

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the fuck

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how does that even happen

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thats so broken

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i need

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@thorny solar can you send your scrolls, weapons and blessings?

thorny solar
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Uh, gimme sec

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I think my money bugged out at around the desert stage when I got 65k
At least that's when I noticed it. Then I picked up extravagant consumption and then that happened.

soft jasper
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only scrolls that affect copper that you have are: hidden treasure, extravagant consumption, on the house (sorta), extra surprise, and thats it

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@thorny solar can you replicate the bug?

thorny solar
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Lmao no
I have no idea how it happens

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I only noticed that it seems to happen to me in multiplayer

mellow cosmos
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AA_Blinking then ask your teammate if they hack coins.

thorny solar
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Lol

glad iris
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Someone's hacking bruh.

bleak quest
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H

soft jasper
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does turtle secondary use weapon elemental adv?

fallen escarp
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Why would it?

soft jasper
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no idea, is there any way to make it elemental? would be nicwe

fallen escarp
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Nope.

soft jasper
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sadge

fallen escarp
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Closest Turtle gets to doing elemental with his skills is weapon damage with his Aspis Slams.

soft jasper
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yeah i figured thats elemental

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whatd be the best blessing to buff punches?

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oh fuck i just got enhanced untold effort dogesmoil

fallen escarp
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Power of the Ocean.

soft jasper
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gotcha

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thanks

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was thinking of that

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JESUS

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT

fallen escarp
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Let me guess. You found out that pausing the Fist Sensation timer for well over triple its duration is slightly effective.

soft jasper
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yeah... holy FUCK the damage

fallen escarp
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Fun fact. Just using Power of the Ocean and Overconsumption, you can get Turtle's exclusive frame in the starting room.

soft jasper
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LMFAOOO

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scary

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anyway holy fuck im skill damage capping already

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yusdgfyugzsdyufgs

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crazy ass blessing

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my pinky hurts

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400 stacks of fist sensation

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i just broke gluttony's sucking shield with fist

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holy FUCK

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700 stacks of fist sensation

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i'm scared

fallen escarp
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To put it into perspective, before Power of the Ocean was added, the upper limit to how many stacks you could get was around 150.

soft jasper
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most broken ass skill build in the game

soft jasper
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i just realized i can hold lclick to spam fist lmao

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anyway one dash moves me 18 meters now in the shield mode

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dash should be jump cancellable

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would the +60% base DMG here be multiplicative?

fallen escarp
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Doubt it.

soft jasper
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oh, so worthless

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dang

fallen escarp
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Still better than various other links for skills.

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For other heroes, that is.

soft jasper
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yea turtle has some hella good skill links

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turtle is just, imo, the single most broken skill build like GOD DAMN

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this stuff is scary

fallen escarp
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Dog's grenades, Birb's cleave, Bunny's fatal bloom, Monke's essence chain, Li's blazing meteor and Owl's Falling Star all get the same bonus, but without the +3 capacity.

soft jasper
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lol

fallen escarp
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Monke and Owl get it especially bad, because Monke's essence chain gets +150% base DMG ascensions instead of +100%.

Owl... Ha.

soft jasper
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wait do base dmg ascensions increase damage multiplicatively either? or nope?

fallen escarp
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+60% base DMG for a skill that gets up to +600% base DMG instead of +300%, and is his worst build.

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Technically yes, but only with other non-base DMG bonuses.

soft jasper
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got it

fallen escarp
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Same as other "buckets" for DPS bonuses.

soft jasper
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whats a bucket

fallen escarp
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The pool of combined bonuses.

soft jasper
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btw do weapon dmg bonuses that aren't multiplicative add up with each other?

fallen escarp
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Includes, but not limited to:
• Base DMG (integer)
• Base DMG %
• General DMG % (Weapon/Skill/Elemental/Fire/Lightning/Corrosion/Explosion all count)
• CritX
• RoF
• Lucky Shot Chance
• Technically Magazine Capacity

soft jasper
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ioa

fallen escarp
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All of these are additive with themselves, but multiplicative with other types.

soft jasper
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got it

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so

soft jasper
fallen escarp
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Yes, but not with other base DMG% bonuses.

soft jasper
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got it

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so

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a +200% base dmg ascension would get +60% base damage added onto it?

fallen escarp
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It'll suffer diminishing returns when you pick Clenched Fist.

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Because it's also base DMG%.

soft jasper
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or am i missing something

fallen escarp
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Yes.

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If you had +100% Base DMG, +100% General DMG and +100% from Fist Sensation you would get:

2 * 2 * 2 = 8
or 800% total.

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If you added another +60% base DMG, you'd get

2.6 * 2 * 2 = 10.4
Or 1040% total.

soft jasper
#

hey, not bad

#

not as bad as it could be, at least

#

anyway, im p sure dog's and turtle's skills are the only ones that can open vaults

#

@fallen escarp is DMG Dealt (like from Bluff) multiplicative?

void quail
#

@fallen escarp why do u still mod forthis dog water game?

soft jasper
#

it's an okay game, people have fun with it although it has flaws, why not leave it at that? the world doesn't revolve around your opinions

#

crazy concept right

lofty bay
#

because of the meme channel

soft jasper
fallen escarp
fallen escarp
zinc frigate
#

How much dmg is this, outta curiosity?

fallen escarp
#

1 billion.

zinc frigate
#

Ah, neat, thanks

lucid nova
#

how did you beat r9 with 1bil dmg??? i always end up with 4bil at the minimum

#

adding the dmg of ur teammates and its still under 4bil

mellow cosmos
#

🤷

thorny solar
#

What if you wanted to do a spiritual flame build, but god said...

solid bone
#

I did an entertaining joke build on dog the other day. I call it Finders Keepers. The gimmick is that whenever a weapon drops, you have to use it (barring things that can't be dual-wielded).

mellow cosmos
#

Better call it Weapon Master

#

You must Master every weapon .

solid bone
#

Haha, true

#

It did provide me with some combos I never would have used otherwise

lucid nova
#

i dualwielded with every weapon (that is dualwieldable) and tbh 90% of the weapons are the same, point and click and enemy dies

#

tbh dragon breath the new launcher was the most fun

hexed lagoon
#

y'all, what is better (for endless)?

lucid nova
#

doesnt matter all that much

split plinth
#

wth

#

i was having a good run

#

saved and all

#

and when i came back warlike blade is broken now

#

wont proc

#

is there any fix or is the ascension perma bugged

#

well this is very annoying

split plinth
#

ah well would have liked to end it off with +170% firerate dual demonlores but what can i do

#

probably got bugged out of hell from boundless

#

final stats i got excluding warlike blade cause idk wth happened

#

not the best but i like it

desert trout
#

how long did you take for that wep

#

amazing roll

split plinth
#

yeah but i probably could have gotten a perfect one with projectile on kill

#

didnt wanna risk it tho (no balls)

lucid nova
#

actually not that great of a roll, doesnt have projectile stacking, doesnt have homing

#

but hey these days it doesnt matter that much what roll you have

fallen escarp
#

Unless it's Endless Journey. Though that might be subject to change anyway.

mellow cosmos
#

hey, is this good enough for endless with monkey @lucid nova

lucid nova
#

hell yeah that would work great

#

if you find a red chest that can change expanded to fierce that would be even better, though its not neccesary

mellow cosmos
#

okay, i will change the enhanced later

#

thanks

split plinth
lucid nova
#

the whole game is lazy atm......

split plinth
#

ok you got me there i just wanted the guns to have somewhat matching inscriptions

#

just rof on crit and projectiles

#

i wanna do a double brick dog build but ik full well its gonna end up killing way slower than demonlore will later in the run

lucid nova
#

yeah, but if you are playing with a "broken" weapon might aswel go full in with it

#

brick dog is one of the most fun dualwields i did

split plinth
#

you think turtle or owl would work better with revealer

#

acttually

#

would bunny work better cause they got that firerate blessing

cobalt dock
#

not like demonlore counts as the “broken gun” when you get into endless

#

its gimmick is strong prior to it

fallen escarp
#

It's probably only broken on Normal/Elite/Nightmare.

#

With all the extra copper you can get for leveling up weapons on Reincarnation, other weapons just outscale it.

rain vale
#

What's going on in boundless ? Last stage of normal I'm one tapping every mob with fatal current and first stage of boundless I need 10 lightnings to kill a normal crossbowman. Wtf is happening ? You can't convince me it's 1% damage resist per stage

fallen escarp
#

Their health increases too.

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Besides, you should definitely have the damage to cover it. If you don't, doesn't matter because you have all the time in the world.

mellow cosmos
meager nest
#

I have been struggling with trying to get the endless achievement ever since the damn thing came out, so is there any way to easily go through it

#

I have been using monkey Q spam build

cobalt dock
#

that does sound horrible for endless

meager nest
#

I mean the build one-two shot everything until endless

glad iris
#

If it two shot before endless, it's gonna take longer to kill in endless.

#

Because of dmg reduction.

fallen escarp
#

If it two shot before endless, it's below average.

meager nest
cobalt dock
#

you want to do +10/20 mil dps at that point i believe

meager nest
#

I mean I honestly don't even know how to do that much damage without getting lucky with scrolls and stuff of that nature

desert trout
#

Use bunny

#

If you just want back to back shes your best bet

junior lichen
#

or "Overconsumption" or "Copycat"

#

or play "Lone Wolf" bizarre dream and grab "counterviolence" or "copycat" as initial blessing

it should be enough to make first rooms easier

meager nest
mellow cosmos
#

I have a question:,How does Fish os Bear Paw work

blazing summit
#

How do Tao weapon builds hold up in Reincarnation compared to her skill builds?

desert trout
#

for each projectile of your weapon, theres a chance to half the damage and deal extra damage once

#

good for when you hit beyond the damage cap, now when you shoot once you can deal damage cap twice

mellow cosmos
#

Sound goood.

desert trout
#

yeah

#

theres no loss for that scroll

#

your dmg is still 100% even if the effect happens, cause its 50%x2

desert trout
solemn onyx
#

I'm confused; I just did reincarn 9 with every Bizarre Dream active (except boundless dream but I turned on Endless Journey) beat every boss but at the end, instead of it letting me continue... it just took me back to the inn?

blazing summit
desert trout
solemn onyx
#

was an insanely strong run to, so kinda dissapointed

desert trout
blazing summit
#

What if multiplayer?

desert trout
#

anything that lowers countdown should be your first pick

#

if not, anything that increases your rate of fire

mellow cosmos
solemn onyx
#

is there even a difference between endless Journey and Boundless Dream?

mellow cosmos
#

Yess

solemn onyx
#

whats the difference? besides one requiring you to be in reincarn 9 obviously

desert trout
#

oh yeah endless is timed too

#

boundless you can just go at your own pace

solemn onyx
#

boundless seems more fun, limitations are bleh but I can see the appeal of endless

desert trout
#

endless has harsher damage scaling (starting at 20% DR and +2% every stage then its +0.2% past stage 40 or something)
boundless starts at 0% DR iirc

solemn onyx
#

Just got out of a run with Qing Yan and a Thorny Carpace build, halfway through the carapace was doing all the workd

desert trout
#

and adds 0.2% per stage

desert trout
solemn onyx
#

Would love to have an option to slap a timer into boundless but is what it is

#

just recently bought one of the dlcs, I wanted the brick

mellow cosmos
#

Here you go.

solemn onyx
#

tryingh to get the brick to start a run, wonder hw long itll take me

rain vale
fallen escarp
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

It just increases alot.

blazing summit
#

does the "attack speed" from nimble finger affect rof?

fallen escarp
#

They're the same thing, so yes.

cobalt dock
crimson trail
#

whats the chance for wind god to spawn

junior lichen
#

i think 50/50

crimson trail
junior lichen
#

have you defeated the other boss 5 times already and unlocked him yet?

#

if yes, then is your luck getting the boss up than anything else

crimson trail
#

ive got every other boss

#

except the wind god

junior lichen
#

well, i think it's your luck if is that so

crimson trail
#

i need new luck

glad iris
#

I call that a win.

#

I'd fight sandworm over wind god any day.

crimson trail
#

i need him for the task

junior lichen
junior lichen
#

do other challenges

crimson trail
#

these are the only ones i can do

#

cus i dont have friends

junior lichen
solemn onyx
#

How do you effectively use Star Ring? its so clunky

mellow cosmos
#

Dont use

blazing summit
#

Is dual wield brick good?

#

Or would dual wielding it with another weapon be better

meager nest
#

what is better on the owl Q spam build or ult spam build

meager nest
#

ty

crimson trail
mellow cosmos
#

Insane RNG there

crimson trail
#

yup i had time to get a lvl 866 weapon before he showed up

mellow cosmos
desert trout
#

gamer scalpel

lucid nova
mellow cosmos
#

do i hit dmg cap

#

i have fish or bear paw

desert trout
#

yes

#

thats the dmg cap for a wep projectile

#

7mil, the extra 5 mil is from element

lucid nova
mellow cosmos
#

my weapon doesnt have element Z_cryy

lucid nova
#

me when spreading misinformation

#

both of you lol

mellow cosmos
lucid nova
#

weapon cap is 10mil, and you get a 25% true dmg penalty cuz you are using the wrong element (probably shock on hp in this case)

#

right element = 50% multi and cap increase so that would be 15mil (if you hit a shield you would get that with shock dmg)

mellow cosmos
#

thanks

lucid nova
mellow cosmos
#

make that 300 stage xD.

glad iris
blazing summit
#

What spiritual blessings should I take with thorny bloom?

desert trout
#

I meant like the elemental made it 7.49 but even then im still wrong lol

#

Typed that in a rush so i didnt think

#

Sleep deprivation and its consequences

sly mountain
#

what does the shield under my hp mean?

blazing summit
desert trout
sly mountain
#

do we have a list of the best elemental ascensions for each character? cause thorns seems best for grenade builds

desert trout
#

Monke should go with thorn

#

Because monke has an acension that procs primary school for x hits of secondary

#

And thorn can proc secondary skill

junior lichen
blazing summit
#

I tend to just either go the lightning one if I’m playing for primary skill build and thorny if secondary (or just be tanky because thorn gear dog go haha)

desert trout
#

If you arent focusing on procing skills then the elemental pulse is a good pick imo, reduced miasma intervals helps to increase your damage output

#

And also that thing can deal a lot of heavy damage when you pick the special effects one and the special effects just burst through 1 enemy

desert trout
blazing summit
#

Thorny bloom with carapace can literally play the game for you and you just have to walk around basically

desert trout
#

Honestly i cant imagine how they will make season 2 stuff more powerful

blazing summit
#

I picked the weirdest time to come back to this game and switch off being a bird main because I’ve never experienced stuff this op before 💀

desert trout
#

Bird buff next season please 😭 hes so weak rn

#

Idek the meta for bird now i only remember easy kill cleave spam lol

junior lichen
desert trout
#

Yeah i love upgraded thunder step a lot

#

The finger pain is real lmao

junior lichen
#

but other than that i think every character its flexible with every arcane ascention

if you know what you're doing of course

blazing summit
desert trout
#

Real

blazing summit
#

Tried a concealed ammo build with the dog last night while doing boundless with my friend and suffered

desert trout
#

Ammo burn time

blazing summit
#

I was struggling to kill jokul enemies on the first round through 😭

desert trout
#

Did you tick mysterious jokul

#

Buffs their hp and shields more

blazing summit
desert trout
#

Aw hell nah

#

Bros playing meta queen

#

Meta DPS queen

#

Yeah you were bound to be left behind at that point

#

Just how the game works now unfortunately

blazing summit
#

It was my first time playing boundless too 💀

desert trout
#

At that point just alt tab and watch a video essay

#

I get you tho concealed ammo is fun

blazing summit
#

I started just scrolling TikTok and then picking up the gold left behind

desert trout
#

First time i got it i was like holy shit borderlands 2 tediore weapon is in this game wtf

blazing summit
#

He had 3 bil dmg by the time I hit 300m

#

Idk what dog build to run for endless

#

Boundless*

desert trout
#

My fav is dual thunder storm

#

Gemini is both have mag capacity 1

#

Top acension to pick is the one reducing reload time

blazing summit
#

Painkiller id assume?

desert trout
#

Yep that and counterviolence

#

Alternate gemini is literally anything else but you have the magazine capacity extending spiritual link

#

Then you pick first strike blessing

desert trout
#

Because the damage bonus is multiplicative

#

With this you can keep up with bunny until the point where rof matters more

#

But you will still be a good dmg dealer to soften enemies a lot

balmy vapor
#

Is there a way to block someone so I don't keep joining their lobby?

#

Dudes sitting afk in r1 and every time I search for a game, I keep getting connected to theirs

blazing summit
#

Oh wait nvm thunder storm isn’t really affected by rof right so ☹️

desert trout
#

You can fire a bit faster

blazing summit
#

WAIT EXPLOSION DAMAGE IS INCREASED BY SKILL DAMAGE?

desert trout
#

Get the dog sharpshooter acension that boosts rof by 30%

blazing summit
#

I’m low key pissed I didn’t know that 💀

desert trout
#

I found out some time ago in this server too 😭

blazing summit
solemn onyx
#

So this just continually stacks up % dmg?

#

and since it says "all" that applies to skills to right?

primal dagger
#

5 achievements left til 100% :)

primal dagger
solemn onyx
#

neat

primal dagger
#

the 500 copper can be kind of annoying tho

solemn onyx
#

i wish there was a way to see how much % its stacked

#

I'm doing a run where I don't even need to shoot a gun so upgrading weapons isnt an issue 😛

primal dagger
#

like, i was trying to engrave one of my weapons and it took me like 3 scenes before i got the money for it

#

gotcha

#

then ball out

solemn onyx
#

Lightning cat pure skill dmg build

primal dagger
#

i never super liked the cat tbh

#

oh wait

#

cat or tiger?

solemn onyx
#

same but this build is mad fun and Its not even high rolled yet, I only have 1/3 chain lightning dmg bost and I don't have lightning shard

#

Lightning tiger, mb

#

the sniper guy

primal dagger
#

yea yea

#

i like cat

#

not tiger

solemn onyx
#

same way until i put this build together

#

no sniper needed, just lightning bolts

primal dagger
#

i like the turtle the most tbh

#

i love getting so fast that i cant even tell whats happening

#

he hurts my hands tho, so i dont play him often

solemn onyx
#

i could never get into the turtle

#

but I've managed to just now clear reincarn 9 with this mage build essentially

primal dagger
#

nicee

solemn onyx
#

doing boundless dream, as I don't like the scroll cap

#

i wanna have it all

primal dagger
#

i just finished a bird boundless dream kick build

#

i was immortal

solemn onyx
#

oh thats fun

#

boss kill time is a bit slow, so hopefully i can get the dchain lightning dmg ascension soon

#

my luck has been horrible

#

So does this have any actual benefit? Its the one scroll I just don't get

#

Did they remove the scroll for HP on kil? I swear ive never seen it

solemn onyx
#

I can't kill him, lmao he heals to fast

#

What does recycle bonus even do

primal dagger
solemn onyx
#

Ah so 10 recycles max

#

and ooh scrolls givee more skill dmg...

#

The game refuses to give me veteran and lightning shard ;-; it doesnt want me to become a true god

#

I don't think my crit.x can get any higher at this rate

glad iris
#

It can.

solemn onyx
#

how?

glad iris
#

Gradual Improvement blessing.

solemn onyx
#

doesn't that go away when you shoot tho?

glad iris
solemn onyx
#

hm

glad iris
#

You only lose stacks if you don't make a crit hit.

solemn onyx
#

ya thats better then counter violence

#

gain 8% more

#

which nets me 400% more skill dmg

glad iris
#

It's good with counterviolence

#

Unless you're playing a skill build

solemn onyx
#

Well I'm running High Powered Arc, Armored Caster/Counterviolence

#

Chain Lightning build

primal dagger
#

does this entail using your primary 500 times, or taunting 500 enemies? little confused on the wording

solemn onyx
#

I wish I had a way to track my % like Lucky chance/crit/skilldmg etc

#

like in the C side menu maybe

#

How many stages of Boundless Dream will it take to find Veteran; ;-;

solemn onyx
#

damn thats pretty

soft jasper
solemn onyx
#

mid? what's great then ?!

soft jasper
solemn onyx
#

+1000?

#

What level are you on? lmao

soft jasper
#

that was i thinkkkk 400ish? forgot

solemn onyx
#

Damn, the 2nd one i what I'm running with right now hen the lightnig bolts aren't enough

soft jasper
#

weak

solemn onyx
#

yea, keeping an eye out for a better bow; Like bows the best

#

or a Brick if there better

lucid nova
#

Got projectiles, homing and its exclusive will shred anything

#

Hope you didnt discard that one...

solemn onyx
#

I did; the guy to save it wasn't anywhere near and I didn't wanna give up my other bow for the crit x

lucid nova
#

You can store it in your backpack....

solemn onyx
#

what?

#

huhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

lucid nova
#

Hover over the weapon, it gives a prompt to store it

#

Also that reavealer would have done way more dmg than strikewing

solemn onyx
#

with 1 shot?

lucid nova
#

Strikewing sucks in endless cuz its to slow and lacks aoe

#

Also would recommend not taking advice for rolls from randos, not everyone knows what they are talking about

solemn onyx
#

pewpew

#

Lucky shot % for days

lucid nova
#

Decent, though without abusing piercing flame with monkey i would go for a bloody drill on lei (or woodpecker)

solemn onyx
#

this builds potential is still lacking hardcore

#

still missing 2 scrolls to get 120% more skill dmg pmuch

lucid nova
#

Looks like a poor choice of ascensions tbh

solemn onyx
#

the game REFUSES to give me Hyper Current

lucid nova
#

Counter violence + caster isnt that great

solemn onyx
#

I'm running a chain lightning build

lucid nova
#

Then its even worse

solemn onyx
#

50% skill dmg per 1x crit

#

hows that bad?

lucid nova
#

Its only 50%, not a multiplier, and it locks you from using good weapons in endless

#

And counterviolence on skill builds is always a no

solemn onyx
#

so the wording is wrong?

lucid nova
#

Furthermore, chain build in endless isnt very viable unless you use t&g

lucid nova
solemn onyx
#

50% for every 1x critx

#

so if i have 18 crit x

lucid nova
#

Yeah

solemn onyx
#

isnt it 50 x 18?

lucid nova
#

Yeah

solemn onyx
#

so wouldn't that be great for a skill build?

#

900% skill dmg

lucid nova
#

No, considering its general dmg and not a multiplier

#

For example, t&g gives a (i think) 1200% multiplier on your thunderbolts

#

Also the thunder bolts you get from bolt from the blue

solemn onyx
#

I'm only early stages stage 23; but reincarn 9, It clears things pretty effortlessly so far atm

lucid nova
#

Anything clears r9, no build required for thay

solemn onyx
#

I do wanna switch to T&G, it just hasnt been offered to me yet

lucid nova
#

That

solemn onyx
#

I used to struggle with Hard dificulty when I first got this game, I'm pretty shit lmao

lucid nova
#

Being shit is fine tbh, as long as you are learning

#

And taking advice (from the right ppl)

#

If the game doesnt give you t&g go for skill freak, im 99% sure its a multiplier

solemn onyx
#

Ill keep that in mind, I plan on pushing this as far as I can as im having a ton of fun with this build

lucid nova
#

Atleast you picked copycat as lone wolf thing and not overconsumption wich is great

solemn onyx
#

just dropping lightning all over the place is so much fun

#

Copycat is so strong imo , always go with it

lucid nova
solemn onyx
#

haha sometimes it goes wild, so i can see that

lucid nova
#

Nothing beats the satisfaction of thundernemesis spam imo

solemn onyx
#

Damn. Veteran, Elemental Relic, or Rich's Privileges

lucid nova
#

Riches is meh since you have extravagant consumption, normally its really good tho

solemn onyx
#

Can you explain this to me

#

I legit don't understand its use or function

lucid nova
#

So it sets the digit furthest to the left to 1 and rerolls all the other digits following everytime you leave a level

#

Very potent with extravagant, it can also bug out extravagant and give you 60k stacks instantly wich is fun (dont know how it triggers, sometimes it just happens)

#

Ima sleep now

solemn onyx
#

neat

#

thanks for all ur info

#

super helpful; I only came back recently as i saw it got updates and been having so much fun

#

f break the ice removed my bolt from the blue

solemn onyx
#

doesnt woodpecker have a chance to get homing?

glad iris
#

No

solemn onyx
#

I wish we could refresh the spiritual remnent in boundless dream

glad iris
#

You can

#

save before taking a blessing and quit out

#

the blessings will refresh.

solemn onyx
#

oh thats genius

#

thank you

blazing summit
#

should i reroll these?

solemn onyx
#

Why is it capping at 4 projectiles?

mellow cosmos
#

+0.2 cap at 2

solemn onyx
#

lame, was hopnig it'd just go forever

#

wish the game woudl offer me veteran

mellow cosmos
#

Luck issue

solemn onyx
#

I legit have almost every scroll in the game

#

except veteran

solemn onyx
#

So.... the mobs have spirit feline active

#

and all of my spells oneshot

#

but instead of oneshotting ,they're doing 0 dmg...

#

nvm they started taking dmg now thank god

mellow cosmos
#

Is there anything that needs to be changed?

desert trout
#

Thats a good acension setup

desert trout
somber solar
#

Guys! Good news!
After tomorrow, i can finally play Steam games again, which also means i can finally play the new season thing :D

Hopefully i'm not late yet :'D

mellow cosmos
#

A_love5 appreciate it.

#

Why there is 1 point in 100% fatal bloom base dmg

remote olive
#

to shove it somewhere

cobalt dock
#

it doubles its dmg

remote olive
#

wouldn't be better blade of bloom?

cobalt dock
#

that would mean you don't shoot

remote olive
#

it works with sword enthusiasts, you get a bit more of bonus

#

doesn't it pop blade of bloom with blossom enthusiast?

cobalt dock
#

nope

#

requires a actual cast

remote olive
#

well but it does with flower chain doesn't it? you can get not the full boost but a big one

#

all for the sake of never stop shooting

cobalt dock
#

nope

mellow cosmos
#

How about the gemini inscription

cobalt dock
remote olive
#

aww

cobalt dock
remote olive
#

run star ring with the 1 bullet in mag

#

just for funsies

cobalt dock
#

imagine

remote olive
#

seriously tho I would run with crit damage on nona or lei luo

#

for some reason I get consistent crits with this weapon

mellow cosmos
cobalt dock
#

gemini doesn't matter to much

#

spore maybe if you wanted

mellow cosmos
#

Which weapon in the off hand is the best, for spore.

cobalt dock
#

Argus

desert trout
#

Argus or hell with extra projectile inscription

remote olive
#

and porcupine?

cobalt dock
#

porc for specificaly hitting as frequently as possible, shit dmg tho

remote olive
#

that true

desert trout
#

Off tangent but whats spore dmg cap again

#

I forgor

fallen escarp
#

Same as the weapon damage cap.

desert trout
#

Thanks

cobalt dock
#

just got reminded that Bet It All says nothing about crit, yet it gives

desert trout
#

Yeah wanted to ask that when you were showing the high crit owl weapon

remote olive
cobalt dock
remote olive
#

what

#

-4?

cobalt dock
#

got hit with Interdependant fortune

remote olive
#

oh no

mellow cosmos
#

Bloody Ammo bugged out and doesn't work after i pick up Deposit Ammo and drop it.

#

Z_cryy idk is it true or not, but that's the only thing i do before BA broken.

mellow cosmos
soft jasper
mellow cosmos
#

What is that

#

I have nothing to increase mag capacity

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I picked up Deposit ammo and something wrong happened. Ammo capacity increases to 999 then reset back 0, and the loop continue

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Increase with each shot..

nimble flint
desert trout
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unironically deserve #hall-of-fame for this

blazing summit
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How much does multiplayer scale up enemy health?

fallen escarp
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It goes 100%, 300%, 500% and 700% for 1, 2, 3 and 4 players respectively.

On Reincarnation 8+, that becomes 100%, 500%, 900% and 1300%.

blazing summit
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So that’s why me and my friend felt so weak on like the second boundless loop 💀

somber solar
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Once i can play GFR again, i'll begin asking everything about this seasonal thingamajic something, as i currently don't understand anything from outside sources.

split plinth
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basically it turned thunder step, elemental pulse and thorny carapace scrolls into another ascension (ig)

desert trout
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simply put

split plinth
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i was scammed by thorny carapace cause i thought it was "cause you to use secondary skill" not "proc secondary skill"

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wanted to go full on star platinum turtle

blazing summit
somber solar
rain vale
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How do you use thorny bloom nowadays ? You just spam the fck outa your swords ?

desert trout
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or whatever you bound secondary skill to

rain vale
desert trout
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and yep make swords go inside enemy too

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not a fan of it

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i have to press a button now instead of letting blossom enthu proc it

fallen escarp
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Because before the rework, how you'd use it is "get Blossom Enthusiast first, then shoot everything."

desert trout
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new one has higher dmg potential though if im not wrong

rain vale
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Before the rework I went with thorny first because you got so much damage at max stacks you didn't even need to use a gun

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I think I even did gunless tao this way

split plinth
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though its mostly for the season pass rewards

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unless you're low on essence

blazing summit
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Best monkey build for boundless?

solemn onyx
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That looks cracked, haven't really got around to using this weapon yet

desert trout
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Piercing flame with the “◈ +100% Weapon DMG for each enemy the ammo pierces and an additional damage is applied to all enemies it has passed through” inscription

Take It All blessing and an offhand corrosion launcher

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Ultimate Firearm makes it easier for you to find a piercing flame with that inscription

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If you dont want to find a corrosion launcher then just use any launcher as the offhand but take painkiller too

solemn onyx
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I'm in literal pain, over the game refusing to give me veteran

blazing summit
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What should be my starting blessing? Take it all? Or like overcomp for early damage

desert trout
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If you are solo lone wolf counterviolence if not then overconsumption

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The goal is to survive till duo fjord stage 3 to withdraw the piercing flame

blazing summit
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Yeah I’m gonna be duo so I’ll overcomp

desert trout
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Or ultimate firearm but play more carefully

desert trout
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From the transdescent arsenal

blazing summit
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We don’t play with that on normally I’ll check it out though lmao

desert trout
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Ah no worries one of you have ultimate firearm then

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And just share piercing flame with that inscription

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Wait do you mind if you overshadow your friend by a lot

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Cause this build will leave anyone else in the dust

blazing summit
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He runs thorny bloom bunny he’ll be alright being the weak one for once 💀

solemn onyx
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VETERAN FINALLY

desert trout
desert trout
solemn onyx
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only required stage 85 of boundless dream