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fallen escarp
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I know.

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Effects such as that used to be called "HP and Shield/Armor" instead of "Total HP".

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Was never reverted, despite the confusion the new version brought.

lucid coral
soft jasper
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yaaaawn

lucid coral
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the insanity that im upto

soft jasper
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smg BORING

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smgs if they were good

lucid coral
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well if total does count then i dont need to worry about it

soft jasper
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you should

lucid coral
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just need to get it enhanced before i see butt head again

soft jasper
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flesh n bones is awesome

lucid coral
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i already have 10000+ shield and 90% reduction and make the enemies do 60% less damage

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im functionally invincible

fallen escarp
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Pfft, if you're at the point where you've got 20000 total, you don't care about what your enemies are hitting.

soft jasper
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i got oneshotted by a pyro lantern while i had spirit feline

fallen escarp
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If that happened, you'd die regardless of F&B.

soft jasper
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"Pyro Lantern
Deals 1157 damage" i had like 300 total hp

fallen escarp
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If anything, using F&B would kill you faster.

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Because no Emergency Protocol (if it would even help) and Life Guardian is harder to use.

lucid coral
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not getting the shield back on hit from sword guard is the real kicker

soft jasper
fallen escarp
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You need at least 80% HP for it to trigger.

soft jasper
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oh

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shrug

fallen escarp
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If you take a lethal hit below that, Life Guardian says "Peace man, I'm out".

soft jasper
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i got to a point in boundless whre i

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literally could nott ake damage

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also, seems like the no bloody ammo damage bug is exclusive to nona in boundless?

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it works on dog

lucid coral
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i still have 2 revives

soft jasper
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HA LOSER I HAD 3

lucid coral
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this is only an r5 run because i wanted to donk around with octopus

soft jasper
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weak

lucid coral
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it a spray weapon so you can make it shoot really fast

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you can stack blade aura, light weight trigger and warlike

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ideally get qing yans rof ascension F&B and convert to fire

soft jasper
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those words don't mean anything to me

lucid coral
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and this

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  • this
soft jasper
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boooriiing

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you should see the wild hunt armor breaker dual wield

lucid coral
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i know, i just like using the octopus because i find it hilarious that i can finish r9 runs with it if i get lucky

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gonna fish for the thorny bloom ascension

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then ill see how big the number i can generate will be

fallen escarp
# soft jasper weak

Ok, stop belittling other people just because they use different strategies on different difficulties.

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Your own method is not absolute.

soft jasper
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im not serious

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but fair enough

lucid coral
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i should probably also replace first strike with skill freak

lucid coral
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sucessfully depleted his shield on r5

soft jasper
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also stage 123

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now do 1234

lucid nova
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damn only 3bil dmg at stage 600

undone mica
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can you save your progress on multuplayer endless

blazing summit
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If Iโ€™m using justice with the dog should I try and dual wield it with another justice or get a high corrosion chance weapon to pair it with

blazing summit
surreal adder
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Can someone give me a good lei luo sniper guide?

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I like him a ton but the latest guide posted is a year ago and idk if there were any changes to thunder kittys build or not

forest basin
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I'm trying to play multiplayer with my friend who's on steam deck (I'm on PC), and we can't connect to each other. Is connecting between platforms a known problem or should I logically just blame it on the hotel wifi he's playing from?

blazing summit
blazing summit
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should i replace one with this frenzied shark?

fallen escarp
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Only for the meme.

blazing summit
exotic cave
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Hey my game says save file got corrupted what do I do?

fallen escarp
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Almost anything is better than a Frenzied Shark.

lofty bay
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Especially that Frenzied Shart

soft jasper
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frenzied shark is fine on dog idk

fallen escarp
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Just like Birb being "fine" and Steady Profit being "fine".

soft jasper
fallen escarp
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It's diet Occult Booster.

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You sacrifice an enhanced weapon choice for an enhanced scroll per phantom peddler, but you also have to pay for it. You do get +1 refresh too, but...

Occult Booster affects any scroll, from any source, and even works in Hyperborean Jokul and Endless Journey where phantom peddlers don't exist.

soft jasper
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but yes

fallen escarp
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Only time I can think that Steady Profit would work better than Occult Booster is if you're doing speedruns, since you ignore most vaults where many of the scroll choices are, and so get less average enhanced scrolls.

soft jasper
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true

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but like

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peddlers can offer enhanced stuff :p

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as in normal ones

fallen escarp
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I know. You still get less enhanced scrolls on average though.

soft jasper
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true

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do speedruns do parkour vaults?

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theyre like, the fastest iirc

fallen escarp
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Probably not. They never appear in the first couple vaults, and those are probably the only ones you might enter.

soft jasper
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fun

elfin laurel
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When taking the elemental pulses from arcane ascensions, and using Nona's 'Elemental Link' with iron wing, does iron wing triggering an elemental effect proc Arcane Saturation?

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Also, does triggering to elements with the sharing elements gemini inscription in a single hit proc Arcane Saturation two time or only once?

elfin laurel
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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

cobalt dock
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i thought it was on weapon hit, canโ€™t say iโ€™ve read it well enough

elfin laurel
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Arcane Saturation reads as (for the first tier) "-3s cooldown for elemental pulses, bonus -0.1s cooldown when triggering and elemental effect"

fallen escarp
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Does anyone else think it's funny that one of the reasons you might pick Elemental Pulses is just to improve how powerful Painkiller is?

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With Elemental Fusion massively increasing damage vs enemies under all 3 effects, and Primordial Mastery being one of few things that affect fusion effects.

soft jasper
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utter obliteration

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i still think the thunder one is the most broken

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i love dealing 33 billion dmg in one hit

cobalt dock
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the moment they 10x the arc dmg it became real good

mellow cosmos
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floating cup ;3

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@soft jasper my bloody ammo worked in boundless

soft jasper
upbeat drift
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I'm hella excited, Just built myself a new pc 2 days ago and it's been BALLER

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I've been running most lower req games at 300+ fps like mc and such

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We UP

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Can't wait to be ballin in gunfire on the new setup

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(downloading all my games back is PAINFUL istg)

soft jasper
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my 3060 runs the game at sub 60 fps lmao

upbeat drift
soft jasper
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i7 13th gen

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lol

upbeat drift
soft jasper
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oh oops

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thought it was 3th for a sec

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i was like

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lol

soft jasper
upbeat drift
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so SURELY I can run gunfire at decent frames

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SURELY

upbeat drift
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(my ram has like 5,000MT/s, and I wanna get up to like 7,200MT/s)

random moth
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what a round number :0

soft jasper
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elemental can do 15m

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*per projectile

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therefore wild hunt is the highest dps weapon in the game

random moth
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Oh :0

soft jasper
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dual wild hunt dog is crazy

random moth
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Yes its some old screenshot with "bird build"

soft jasper
random moth
# soft jasper

Cool :0
I doing loop runs too but with lei luo
and with chain lightning build
Im too lazy for aiming

split plinth
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im just gonna steal this build idea here...

soft jasper
soft jasper
split plinth
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mayhaps

soft jasper
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make sure to get Multiple on both of em, elemental share with corrosion and fire conversion, and armor breaker spiritual link

split plinth
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yeah I'm probably just gonna try to get a good explosive dog run and the vault modifier and store the potential wild hunts there

soft jasper
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explosives boriiing

exotic cave
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Hey my game says save file got corrupted what do I do?

blazing summit
soft jasper
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the combustion cooldown is 0.12s

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literally the same as wild hunt rps

blazing summit
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But only 1 pellet gets the combustion bonus right?

soft jasper
deep ore
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and actually thats not even true because wildhunt can only put out 54 projectiles per second at base and to my knowledge can't actually get a good few of the RoF boosting inscriptions (half-mag and on-crit for example?)

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Illusion is the highest DPS potential shotgun with its exclusive as it has the same base RoF as wildhunt (4.5) while having 14 projectiles to WH's 12

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illusion can also obtain RoF boost inscriptions

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both are outclassed in potential hits per second by Scalpel and Angelic Aura though - exclusive Illusion with no RoF boosts can only do 63 hps, a figure both scalpel and AA can suprass with just one projectile boosting inscription, let alone both - and all of this assumes perfect aim

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Rainbow is probably the true king of deeps

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mostly due to its ability to instantly switch targets and never miss

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cant deal damage with missed shots

soft jasper
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because it fires twice per round

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for an effective 9

deep ore
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...hmm

soft jasper
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ive doen the math

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it outperforms a fish and bear paw + elemental mag + explosive bullets 4.5 projectile angelic aura

deep ore
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im not sure i buy that

soft jasper
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wild hunt on monkey has 3.5 billion dps at damage cap

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a 4.5 projectile angelic aura has 3.3

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if you want, you can search, im p sure i did the math here

deep ore
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a 4.5proj angelic aura has the same hps as a wildhunt at 9rps

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108 for both

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i guess armor breaker is the difference there

soft jasper
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yes, armor breaker, multiple, and generalist

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  • monkey's 3x generalist bonus
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let me do the math again

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assume damage cap is 15m

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base 12 projectiles

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x (1 + 0.2(armor breaker) +0.3 (multiple) + 0.6 ( generalist with weapon mastery))

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x 2.1 projectiles for a total of... 25.2 projectiles

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add 1 from elemental magazine

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so 26.2

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x 15 is

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393

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million

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per shot

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then x9 that

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for a total of 3537 million, then add 22.5 from explosive bullets cause why not

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as for the angelic aura

deep ore
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wait you should have mentioned you were including weapon mastery in your calculations

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lmao

soft jasper
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yes i mentioned monkey

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oops

deep ore
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i thought you meant like in general

soft jasper
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without it its 3 billion ish

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close enough

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as for the AA

deep ore
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and honestly it still doesnt matter because youre never going to get all of those pellets on target

soft jasper
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you will

deep ore
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whereas AA you have a chance to do that

soft jasper
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if its a boss

deep ore
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yeah but that's not what really matters tbh

soft jasper
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it is

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as normal enemies can be 1shot by anything if you have penbullet paranormality

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bosses are the only real dps issue

deep ore
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thats only if the modifier is there

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which it isnt always

soft jasper
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it is

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if you only add paranormality

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all enemies have up to 3 scrolls, elites having 5

deep ore
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wait, like you dont take ANY other ID's?

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oh

soft jasper
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yeah

deep ore
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i see

soft jasper
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you can also take flehs and bones

deep ore
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i didn't think about that

soft jasper
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and eliminate the penetration bullet req

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all enemies will have both, so 1hp

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anyway

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continuing my dps ramblings

deep ore
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i genuinely didn't know you could force consistent modifiers

lilac bramble
deep ore
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with ID

soft jasper
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an angelic aura has 24 rps

deep ore
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interdependent fortunes which i failed to acronymize for some reason

soft jasper
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4.5 projectiles + 1 from elemental mag

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5.5 projectiles

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x 15

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82.5million per shot

deep ore
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also you can ignore damage calc because i only really care about hits per second, its a much easier shorthand ol

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more manageable numbers

soft jasper
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which ends up with a solid

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1980 million

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which is btw a very similiar dps to porcupine

deep ore
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im pretty sure it is LITERALLY impossible to get all the dps out of porcupine isn't it

soft jasper
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now with fish or bear paw we can add... quite a bit to that 1980 million

soft jasper
deep ore
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because it's guaranteed that some of the projectiles will go the exact opposite way lol

soft jasper
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might be similiar wiht the weapon skill fired simultaneously though

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its impossible to get all the dps out of any weapon, its just theory

deep ore
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rainbow

soft jasper
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it will be either more or less bc elements and such, etc

deep ore
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which is probably why it's the only real weapon for endless lol

soft jasper
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resistances, elements, buffs, debuffs etc

soft jasper
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what the fuck are you on about

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teaa's stage 1000 endless run was angelic aura

deep ore
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and rainbow

soft jasper
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no, it was an angelic aura

deep ore
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which i presume the rainbow was used for clearing mobs

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ALL AA?

soft jasper
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pretty sure

deep ore
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jesus the amount of target swapping would make my head spin

soft jasper
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@mystic shoal

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was it all aa

soft jasper
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4.5 projectiles x 3.5 is

deep ore
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oh wait a minute

soft jasper
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-15.75 chance to double dps

deep ore
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did you properly factor fobp's reduced benefit to buff on wild hunt

soft jasper
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no i didnt factor in fobp at all in fact

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without fobp wild hunt wins against all even without monkey

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it has 3 billion ish on non monkey

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AA has 2

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anyway, again

soft jasper
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3650 million dps assuming im right

deep ore
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okay can i please beg you

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PLEASE

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just use hits per second

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i cannot work with these big numbers lmaoooo

soft jasper
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no i like big numbers

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okay a wild hunt monkey fobp would be like

deep ore
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it'd be 354

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on average

soft jasper
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3.914 billion dps if we use 3.5 as the base value for fobp

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25.2 projectiles x 3.5 is an 88.2 chance to not trigger

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so it's 3.5 billion x 1.18

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wild hunt beats AA dogesmoil

deep ore
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...did you factor in any rof-boosting inscriptions

soft jasper
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i did not

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because they woudln't apply to AA either

deep ore
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then that's probably where AA will pull back out ahead

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what the fuck are you talking about

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how

soft jasper
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as it has all projectile increasing inscriptions

deep ore
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?????

soft jasper
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obv

deep ore
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there's still room for one more

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and actually

soft jasper
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okay, sure, +25% rof

deep ore
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one of the projectile granting inscriptions is ALSO an RoF boost

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over-half-mag

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gives .2 proj and 50% rof

soft jasper
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can angelic aura have it though

deep ore
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yes

soft jasper
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okay, cool, you got me there i suppose

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but we're talking base with projectile boosts

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i have no doubt in RoF AA wins

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anyway

deep ore
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well then you can't call wild hunt the highest deeps in the game when something can beat it lmaoooo

soft jasper
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a non-monkey wild hunt has 3 billion dps ish

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with... uh

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+0.2+0.3+0.25 projectiles

deep ore
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that said, one must question if wild hunt can also get those inscriptions

soft jasper
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exactly

deep ore
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i dont recall if ive ever seen a wild hunt with any rof boosters

soft jasper
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im p sure it can get them

deep ore
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i'll be watching for any in future

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i cant find wiki information saying it can't but the wiki is... unreliable

soft jasper
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oh yeah

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also

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the over half mag inscription doesn't function if you want always crit

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as bloody ammo + deadly counter is a thing

deep ore
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while true, i'd argue that eventually you kinda dont need crits lol

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if we're talking ultra end game

soft jasper
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crits give some hella good effects with scrolls and such, plus, angelic aura has horribly low base dmg

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the critX is needed unless you level it over a thousand levels or more

deep ore
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which you can't

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unless they removed the +300 cap

soft jasper
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you can

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they did

deep ore
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pog

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now im wondering if the cap was a bug

soft jasper
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oh yeah if we talk about boundless

deep ore
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given you could accidentally break it

soft jasper
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it gets even worse

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boundless has 99% resistance cap

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endless has 95%

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so the critx is needed

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anyway what i was rambling about again? oh yeah

deep ore
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wait, boundless gets a higher cap now?

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lmao

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im behidn the times

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๐Ÿ‘ด

soft jasper
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very

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anyway

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a non monkey fobp wild hunt has 3.795 billion dps

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still more than AA

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and remember, wild hunt doesn't even need inscriptions to do that

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aside from the Multiple enhanced attribute

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but that aint an inscription

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so all others can go to RoF if wild hunt can receive rof bonuses

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which id be p sure it does

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and either way, RoF inscriptions make this even more confusing as we're comparing base rps + projectiles with all non-cap damage bonuses

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im gonna sleep bye

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one last thing

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dual wild hunt dog is the pinnacle of sillyness

deep ore
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this is why i stick with hits per second and ignore dps lol

soft jasper
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the largest issue with wild hunt is how fast you need to click LMFAO

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also i had elemental disadvantage

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still crazy

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@deep ore oh yeah also

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wild hunt can be stupid accurate

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so who said all pellets cant hit an enemy

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look at the crosshair size in the vid

deep ore
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ok i confirmed that it can get LS+40 RoF-10

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wild hunt

deep ore
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got the illusion skin ๐Ÿ˜Ž

red glacier
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is sword water the opposite of gunfire

mellow cosmos
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SwordIce. Sound better

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I mean sounds more rhyming.

soft jasper
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swordice fr

unkempt portal
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Anyone know why I cant right click the radioactive gauntlet while holding fire?

mellow cosmos
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Which enhancement is best for lei lua in endless ๐Ÿค”

soft jasper
mellow cosmos
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so how to endless with taos

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I don't feel her strong.

soft jasper
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pick up an angelic aura then literally anything that says "RoF" or Attack Speed

mellow cosmos
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What makes she better, because if only Rof and AA,...
Her skill ๐Ÿค”?

soft jasper
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tao has stupid broken bonkers insane rate of fire

hexed lagoon
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Does anyone know if the "bullet on crit" inscription on shotguns is any good? Do those projectiles crit/have lucky shot?

soft jasper
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yes

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you can also force ALL projectilrs to crit

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with bloody ammo + deadlt counter

split plinth
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finally got the run with dual demonlores

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would have been ok but i got tao's firerate ascension

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the only good run ive gotten with dual weapons so far

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doesn't work if i have tao's firerate ascension?

soft jasper
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demonlore MID

glad iris
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Her primary isn't locked behind an animation so you can use it as quickly as you can press the key if your CD is low enough.

lilac bramble
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wohooo broke my own record (previous was stage 63 with cat) in lone wolf 4

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What build do y'all cat users use to reach stage 100 in endless journey?

desert trout
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take counterviolence

lilac bramble
soft jasper
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bloody ammo + deadly counter is good, but it doesnt ALWAYS work

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keep counterv

blazing summit
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if im doing a bird build with wild hunt what spiritual blessings should i go for and what weapon should i pair it with for gemini

lilac bramble
soft jasper
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the ones where bloody ammo bugs out and doesnt do self damage

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happens in boundless sometiems

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also, counterviolence adds 1x critx regardless

oblique abyss
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tbh I find deadly counter and fire enthus with fire convert better to use than bloody ammo, especially because that lets you use more versatile infinite mag combos, though it does take more investment to get going

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can be really nice into early endless because you can use something like magshare/first strike to ramp damage up a ton before you build up stacks of extravagent/dualedge/elite

cobalt dock
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its mainly that you can get Painkiller which makes you fire immune

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or accidently Copycat immunity

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i still count Fire enthu + Deadly before the other

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i still think of it as the version that only worked on automatic untill stopped firing

soft jasper
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enthu

soft jasper
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bloody ammo fucks

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besides i always get painkiller

lilac bramble
mellow cosmos
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Fandom has it.

lilac bramble
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how does the Multiple Enhanced Attribute affect thunderstorm? does it affect the arc lightnings or just the explosion?

blazing summit
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this might be the weirdest dog build ive ran

mellow cosmos
lilac bramble
mellow cosmos
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It will overlap each other,

blazing summit
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whats the best weapon types for soul strike builds?

fallen escarp
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Sniper, launcher, shotgun.

blazing summit
fallen escarp
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Shotgun is a bit worse because the bonus is weaker and sniper is great, if random, at dealing massive damage.

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Launcher is also specifically better at dealing with groups.

blazing summit
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and then is launcher more in the middle but more consistent damage wise?

fallen escarp
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Shotgun: Single-target consistency.
Sniper: Single-target high rolls.
Launcher: Groups.

blazing summit
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ah got it tysm

lilac bramble
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what are good blue inscriptions u guys think for an llusion for endless journey?

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Projectile +0.2 for every enemy killed (resets after reload). would this be good for illusion? (i suck at math)

fallen escarp
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It can't even get that one.

lilac bramble
fallen escarp
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For blue inscriptions, I'd suggest "+10% RoF for 2s on a crit hit. (Up to +100%)".

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Illusion has a piss easy time keeping that one maxed.

lilac bramble
fallen escarp
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It's alright.

lilac bramble
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which gold inscription is better for woodpecker? +10% Lucky Shot for 3s whenever u hit (up to 150%) or the 65% Damage to enemies in element effect?

gaunt blaze
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is there a way to reread the quest description aftedr i close the window from the training master?

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because killing things is not raising this counter so i am confused

fallen escarp
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Otherwise, its multiplicative nature often makes it very valuable.

lilac bramble
fallen escarp
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Usually, yes.

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Especially later in the run.

gaunt blaze
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does this affect turret mode?

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ah....

gaunt blaze
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does this work on bows?

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considering every shot is a reload

cobalt dock
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it might work

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bows donโ€™t reload

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i think nimble fingers is a exception tho

gaunt blaze
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considering this just says "when using primary skill" does this affect turret mode?

fallen escarp
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Yes.

cobalt dock
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the entire mech does skill dmg

gaunt blaze
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so does this say "40 percent dmg per curse as well as flat 20 percent lucky shot"? or "40 percent dmg per curse AND 20 percent lucky shot per curse"?

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also how high does lucky shot stack?

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oh... nvm

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can the mech get lucky shots or crits?

fallen escarp
lilac bramble
fallen escarp
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Probably.

soft jasper
soft jasper
fallen escarp
# soft jasper sorta can, from Surprise Bonus

Not a lucky shot. Just a chance for double damage.

Otherwise stuff like Untold Effort, Skill Freak, Accurate Crush 2/3, Furious Wave and maybe other things would also be considered lucky shots.

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Furious Wave is the closest the game has to giving skills lucky shots because it uses the colours, but it's still not quite accurate.

soft jasper
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it also seems to use the color? ikd

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ive seen iron wing do orange damage numbers

fallen escarp
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Dunno about that one. I've never played Nona.

soft jasper
soft jasper
lucid nova
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it works

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this was when endless first released

soft jasper
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madman

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im gonna go try stage 200 with dual wild hunt dog

lucid nova
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too little aoe

soft jasper
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6 billion dps at damage cap

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so like

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eh?

lucid nova
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where is the aoe tho

soft jasper
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who gives a fuck about aoe

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also, combustion exists

lucid nova
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the game

lucid nova
soft jasper
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literally nobody cares about aoe in endless

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lmfao

lucid nova
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everyone does lmfao

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its meta

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aoe, and firerate and king

soft jasper
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are you trying to gaslisght me

lucid nova
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no im spitting facts

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@cobalt dock

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we have a severe case of someone who doesnt belive facts

soft jasper
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we have a severe case of gaslighting

lucid nova
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we have a severe case of cluelessness

soft jasper
#

never in a million years had aoe ever mattered in endless

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teaa's stage 1000 endless run was done with an angelic aura

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joewillbert's stage 5000+ endless run is being done with a rainbow

lucid nova
soft jasper
#

yes

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i still don't get how aoe matters

#

multihit does, projectiles do, so does RoF

#

if you want to carpet bomb an area you'd be using a justice

lucid nova
#

ok if you dont belive me go try it out

soft jasper
#

thanks

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also, arcane thunder IS aoe

#

dog dual wield launches it every shot

#

although it doesnt store as much damage

#

besides, wild hunt spread

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ok ima go setup a run bye

#

might stream

cobalt dock
soft jasper
#

oh

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it was>

#

alr

#

still, whats with aoe @cobalt dock

cobalt dock
#

AA was for bosses

#

you need AoE

#

Rainbow is a form of it

#

mainly via para cheese tho

soft jasper
#

i see

#

well, im gonna try wild hunt anyway

#

the stupid dps and thunder should make up for it

#

@cobalt dock does spirit feline interdep fortune apply per projectile?

lucid nova
#

so i wasnt gaslighting....

soft jasper
#

just aim

soft jasper
#

guess ill ifnd out

soft jasper
#

LMFAO

#

failed within the first loop cause i couldnt get fire conversion

#

and was at elemental disadv always

#

ow my right arm hurts

soft jasper
#

what

#

the fuck

soft jasper
#

im going to kill somoen

#

i got a perfect run then turns out i forgot to enable endless

lilac bramble
soft jasper
lilac bramble
#

The lightning can break normal enemy's Shield and +100% final DMG of explosion. is this worth it for Thunderstorm inscription?

soft jasper
#

however only the ball can break the shield

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the arcs cant

#

so better aim

lilac bramble
lilac bramble
soft jasper
#

RoF, lightning acquisition range, final explosion dmg, +100% elemental chance

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if i get lucky then +65% in elemental as well

lilac bramble
#

I was gonna go for Multiple, but I guess I'm keeping the elemental.

soft jasper
#

multiple is good, if it can even get that

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whihc im unsure about

lilac bramble
soft jasper
#

use bloody ammo

lilac bramble
#

usually the insane runs like 100+ do they do it lone wolf or just the standard solo?

#

which one would be tougher? cos lone wolf we get an extra blessing which is pretty strong

soft jasper
#

lwolf

lilac bramble
lilac bramble
#

Angelic aura can get the blue inscription that adds 0.2 projecties and resets on reload right?

glad iris
#

All smgs except star devourer can.

lilac bramble
#

nvm my english took a while to process that

gaunt blaze
#

15 mil crit on the top there. ๐Ÿ˜„ btw is this 64 bit or 32 bit?

proud shale
#

15 mil isnt even close to either

gaunt blaze
#

oh i'm aware

#

i'm just wondering if it's possible to hit the overflow

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32 is possible

#

but 64.... i'm pretty sure the game will break before i hit that 4 trillion something

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that's the 32

#

that's doable

#

i think.....

#

that is definitely not doable

proud shale
gaunt blaze
#

10 mil base? does thast mean 10 mil with crits?

#

or crits go over that?

proud shale
#

iirc no

gaunt blaze
#

oh..... well that's no fun

lilac bramble
#

Projectile +0.2 for every enemy killed (resets after reload) and +10% RoF for 2s on a crit hit. (Up to +100%) blue inscriptions,

#

is it possible to get both on an angelic aura at once? just wanna make sure

lilac bramble
desert trout
#

make sure RNG gods are on your side

gaunt blaze
#

each individual shotgun pellet can deal that 10 mil damage cap right?

lucid nova
#

ye

soft jasper
#

hi nihao

desert trout
#

whats up hisami

soft jasper
#

dual wild hunt dog endless

gaunt blaze
#

whiiiich means that this weapon can deal up to 120 mil a shot

soft jasper
#

fucked up a run bc of a curiosity box ๐Ÿ”ฅ

lucid nova
soft jasper
#

the stream's in #stream-announcements

gaunt blaze
#

hey, i'm just saying i wanna one shot bosses......

desert trout
lucid nova
#

no 10mil per pallet needed, r9 serpent only has 8mil hp

soft jasper
#

take it all

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then i was at scroll cap

#

and like

#

missed all the godly scrolls

#

timer was at 3min and i jusrt

#

gave up

blazing summit
#

What ascensions for dog should I prioritize for survivability

soft jasper
gaunt blaze
#

i notice things have damage resist

#

assuming that goes up to 99 percent

lucid nova
blazing summit
lucid nova
#

best survivability are scrolls, spirit feline, lightless shield

soft jasper
#

at lvl3

desert trout
soft jasper
#

enhanced it fucks

desert trout
#

sometimes i take it thinking maybe a longling chest will bail me out and grant me the enhanced

#

worst ever draught was like 4 loops and i was panicking ๐Ÿ˜ญ

soft jasper
#

that was like that

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i just gave up

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praying for spirit feline

desert trout
#

the funny cat

soft jasper
#

btw ya watching?

desert trout
#

no i gotta sleep soon its 4am here ๐Ÿ˜ญ

soft jasper
#

a

blazing summit
#

just got flesh and bones in the first vault on my dog run ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

#

for dual wild hunt dog what geminis and exclusives should i look for?

soft jasper
#

elemental advantage

#

exclusives dont matter

blazing summit
split plinth
#

does the master craftsmanship (2 exclusive inscriptions minimum) scroll take effect when you reroll all inscriptions or only when the weapon drops?

soft jasper
#

drop

split plinth
#

damn

#

well guess im just gonna Have to get lucky and hope i get the right inscriptions i want

blazing summit
#

why could the game only give me this at jokul ๐Ÿ˜ข

soft jasper
#

good rolls

blazing summit
#

my scrolls arent great sadly but pole monarch time

soft jasper
#

make sure to use bloody ammo

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and deadly counter

#

magshare is mid as fuck

blazing summit
#

i didnt see either my whole run sadly and I dont play endless

soft jasper
#

you shoudl try boundless

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its fun the first few loops

#

endless is stress and arm pain

#

this shit gonna give me carpal tunnel

blazing summit
#

i tend to play a lot of multiplayer with my friends so i dont do boundless

soft jasper
#

do boundless with friends then

rain vale
#

The fact Flame Dance now works with Spiritual Flame is kinda crazy

mellow cosmos
#

Tiger is so cool. Especially the roar when using skills.

lilac bramble
#

what does the Thunder Step event do to Lei Luo's E skill? how does the buff work?

blazing summit
split plinth
#

what gemini should i use for dual demonlores?

fallen escarp
#

Magshare.

split plinth
#

dunno if magshare is good or not aside from the qol of potentially less reloading

fallen escarp
#

Everything else is pretty much worthless due to improper synergy between weapons or major downside with the gemini.

blazing summit
# fallen escarp Magshare.

If you managed to get deadly counter + bloody ammo would that work well on crit share or does bloody ammo on such a fast weapon do too much self damage

#

I only recently was shown what bloody ammo can do so Iโ€™m not too informed

fallen escarp
#

Stability issues. Even with guaranteed crits, you'll probably miss more anyway.

#

Also you'd only get like, +1.5x CritX anyway unless you get other scrolls and stuff.

pearl garden
#

Bloody Ammo can also lead to funny things with other scrolls like Thunder Screen at times if you get certain synergies just right: #gunfire-videos message

fallen escarp
#

Read above.

topaz turret
#

every so often u get a melter of a build and u have to farm soul essence ๐Ÿ™‚

blazing summit
#

is combat elite ever even worth it or is the lucky shot from weapon genius just better

fallen escarp
#

When doing explosive builds.

zinc frigate
#

Outta curiosity, when was the last time they did a balance patch? I'm curious if the plant spores gemini is still wickedly powerful

cobalt dock
#

doubt they would change it

fallen escarp
#

The last time they did a balance patch? Hmm...

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I'm gonna have to go hunting. Brb.

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Welp, I found one that adds a reasonable amount of both buffs and nerfs, without making something absurdly powerful or weak in the process.

On 07/30/2021.

#

Hello, everyone~ In this update, we have added several spiritual blessings and enhanced occult scrolls, and tweaked the difficulty of the boss [Abyssal Serpent]. Meanwhile, weโ€™ve also improved the game experience when using controllers. The optimization of controllers is a long-term mission for us and we will spare no effort to further polish th...

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(There are probably other updates more recent that add an equal amount of justifiable buffs and nerfs to the game, but I automatically ignored anything post-Atomic Bomb buff.)

zinc frigate
#

Oh damn, that was a hoooot minute ago, haha

lilac bramble
#

+40% total weapon DMG against elites and bosses / +0.4x CritX for 4s when make 4 Crit in 1s (bonus can stack) / +0.2x CritX on each Crit Hit. (Up to +4.0x and will be reset on a normal hit/miss)

#

which of these 3 blue inscriptions is best for an angelic aura?

#

i went for +10% rof for my first blue, and i am not getting the 0.2 projectile cos it seems non existent for me.

#

I was gonna opt for the 40% bosses cos it's multiplicative but im not sure bout the math for the other 2.

#

OH NVM I JUST GOT THE 0.2 PROJEC

mellow cosmos
#

SK_priest_crying luck issue

#

And how to reroll only the blue script but it does not affect the orange one.

desert trout
#

played gunfire after sometime and first run i get owned by rng

#

thats the gunfire i know

lilac bramble
#

so beautiful

mellow cosmos
#

And how to reroll only the blue script but it does not affect the orange one.

lilac bramble
#

I used to reroll everything again and again until i found u can quicksave etch spam the craftsman

#

boring ass process tho

soft jasper
soft jasper
soft jasper
fallen escarp
soft jasper
#

during dual wield it will have a 50% chance to heal HP equivalent to damage recieved

#

so BA still triggers on damage bonuses but isn't an issue

mellow cosmos
lilac bramble
#

yeah just the campfire

soft jasper
#

save at desert

#

first stage almost always has craftsman

mellow cosmos
soft jasper
#

jokul works as well but more annoying

#

as scenes are long

#

if you dont get the inscription you want from etch, close the game (altf4, not quit) and try again

mellow cosmos
#

thanks

lilac bramble
#

yo the demonlore's weapon skill. the 990% does it take into account when u lvl up the wepon or just the weapon's base damage?

nimble flint
#

Base damage

#

Basically its at maximum "just" a +66 Level boost

lilac bramble
nimble flint
#

But again for everyone to keep in mind :
With each upgrade it becomes less and less efficient

#

And fast

#

Each level increases the weapons dmg by 15% of the base value
+1 thats a 15% increase to the previous level
At +20 that is already down to 3.9% increase for the upgrade

#

At +200 that 0.49%

#

Thats why Demonlores buff is strong in a normal run but in regards to endless it falls off hard

fallen escarp
#

Heck, it's not even that strong in a normal run anymore.

#

Now that stuff like Hidden Transaction exists along with powercreep for other weapons.

#

Still great, but "great" is average in this context.

soft jasper
#

made a small writeup on elemental effects and damage

#

:D

nimble flint
#

Which is missing other infos

#

Which are displayed on our wiki

#
Gunfire Reborn Wiki

Damage is done by hitting enemies with weapons, using skills or triggering effects from scrolls and ascensions. If the target has Armor? or Shields?, damage is usually applied to them first before...

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What you wrote is more an elemental dmg write up

soft jasper
#

i probably did miss some stuff

#

anyway i just realized

#

Giant Slayer deals damage directly to health

#

knockoff penetration bullet

nimble flint
#

,,

#

No

#

Thats the 5th Dmd Type

#

True Dmg

#

which isnt affected by defensive modifiers of the target hit

nimble flint
#

it deals that to health yes

#

but the dmg type it deals is True dmg

soft jasper
#

yes

fallen escarp
nimble flint
#

two separate things

soft jasper
#

isn't true dmg just non-elemental

nimble flint
#

no

soft jasper
#

huh.

#

what is the difference then?

nimble flint
#

I already said that

#

It is true damage

soft jasper
#

OH

nimble flint
#

it isnt affected by defense

soft jasper
#

so it doesn't get affected by resistance?

#

holy

nimble flint
#

100 true dmg is 100 dmg

#

Thats why I said that

soft jasper
#

okay

nimble flint
#

while your write up is a nice attempt

soft jasper
#

a little confusing

nimble flint
#

it is missing a lot of things

soft jasper
#

fair

nimble flint
#

and is more just elemental dmg

#

And for the whole thing we have the wiki page

soft jasper
#

true

#

guess ill just make it elemental dmg

lucid nova
# soft jasper

even this isnt completely true, it can bug out and break the game wich is pretty fun

soft jasper
#

what

#

what the fuck

soft jasper
#

is it even giant slayer

lucid nova
#

yeah, i tested it and it doesnt really work without giant slayer

soft jasper
#

okay what the fuck

lucid nova
#

what i think that is causing it is the extreme amount of dmg (would be 100bil+ if dmg cap didnt exist) and giant slayer being able to hit through invincibility and the large amount bugs giant slayer out and makes it deal a true % of their hp (not capped at 2k)

soft jasper
#

oh

#

int overflow?

#

wait

#

no

#

the damage cap is 64bit... when not 10m

#

how the fuck

lucid nova
#

and miasma cant hit through invincibility soooooooooooooooo those bleed numbers are giant slayer since at that time i didnt have any other true dmg besides miasma and giant slayer

soft jasper
#

okay

#

uh

#

but why does it bug out

#

and why the fuck does it hit through invincibility

soft jasper
#

it shouldn't break at all unless you can do 18446744073709551616 damage

lucid nova
#

wouldnt surprise me if i bypassed that number already but i will never know cuz funny dmg cap

soft jasper
#

no

#

you can't

lucid nova
#

i can

soft jasper
#

like its fucking impossible

lucid nova
#

ez

soft jasper
#

if it's unsigned it's double that

lucid nova
#

fun fact, rainbow arch can do it aswel (if dmg cap didnt exist)

soft jasper
#

so no

#

you can't

lucid nova
#

@cobalt dock we have a severe case of cluelessness here show him the rainbow arch calculations

soft jasper
#

or at least the boss would need to have like 7 times that hp lmao

soft jasper
#

neither is boss hp

lucid nova
#

yes. if dmg cap wasnt there i would

soft jasper
#

uh huh

#

sure

lucid nova
#

you fool you dont know my powers

soft jasper
#

i can understand hitting for billions

lucid nova
#

the games powercreep powers******

soft jasper
#

but you aint hitting for 18 quintillion

#

or even 9

#

and giant slayer wouldn't even be doing that

lucid nova
#

pretty sure with just rainbow arch and enhanced normal ammo you can hit 1.5quintillion without anything else

soft jasper
#

as bosses just... don't have that much fucking health

lucid nova
#

thats with 2 things

#

no luckyshot or critx included

soft jasper
#

1.5 quintillion is not 18

#

also what the fuck is rainbow arch

#

oh

lucid nova
#

found it

#

oh a little more dmg

#

woops

soft jasper
#

what

#

what the fuck

lucid nova
#

(not my calculations btw, credits go to walta)

#

next time have some more faith....

soft jasper
#

... per hit?

lucid nova
#

yeah

soft jasper
#

why rainbow arch specifically

lucid nova
#

more the combo of its exclusive inscription and enhanced normal ammo

soft jasper
#

... oh

#

and how long do you need to charge it?

lucid nova
#

also i tested the combo out in game and it worked, managed to get both before the first boss and it was a easy 15mil oneshot

soft jasper
#

do you just stand in the pre-boss spot for like an hour or what

lucid nova
soft jasper
#

also

#

how fucking big is the mag

#

lmao

#

989?

lucid nova
#

look in the doc

soft jasper
#

oh

#

is it adv depot

#

nvm

lucid nova
#

yesnt

#

you need a magshare weapon, in this case its a big hippo with 288 mag and i think rainbow arch has like a 45mag?

#

so would be like 320 ammo in a mag

soft jasper
#

star ring can do more iirc

#

but like

#

what

soft jasper
lucid nova
#

starring cant do more, same ammount

#

80 base mag is the most you can get

lucid nova
soft jasper
#

someone did a 989 mag wep

lucid nova
soft jasper
soft jasper
# lucid nova cap

can't search in thread on mobile, but someone did manage to do 989 mag

lucid nova
#

even double 288 mags doesnt get close to 989

soft jasper
#

don't believe me? too bad

#

... what about retain additional mag on reload

lucid nova
#

...?

soft jasper
soft jasper
#

show me the search button

lucid nova
soft jasper
#

ive seen it on other weapons

#

unless memory is fucking wiv me ive seen a fire dragon with it iirc

#

i havent used shotguns except for liek

lucid nova
soft jasper
#

the past 2 days

#

yknow what

#

lemme get back onto pc and search

lucid nova
#

go for it

soft jasper
#

cause some madman DID do a 989 star rinv

soft jasper
lucid nova
#

kinda yeah

soft jasper
#

what about advanced depot

lucid nova
#

wont let you reload

soft jasper
#

just... don't use it then

#

fuck adv depot anyway lmao

lucid nova
#

advanced depot = more ammo consumtion

soft jasper
#

just pick up the adv depot once you get 989 mag

#

like

#

drop it

#

get to 989 mag

#

then pick it up

#

simple as

#

it still retains current mag

cobalt dock
#

hi

lucid nova
#

hi

soft jasper
#

hi

cobalt dock
#

Arch hits very hard

soft jasper
#

true

lucid nova
#

wont work since magshare will half the stacks on reload

soft jasper
#

improved clip

lucid nova
#

cuz you need to reload for the inscription????????????????????????????????????????????????

soft jasper
#

yes

#

get to 989 mag capacity

#

get enough mag share stacks

lucid nova
#

? ? ?

soft jasper
#

get ammo back from improved clip

#

am i missing something

cobalt dock
#

can you still Surplus in off-hand?

#

i know it got removed

soft jasper
#

what's surplus

cobalt dock
soft jasper
cobalt dock
#

sure, the +100 from the link stacks with it, so makes sense

soft jasper
#

i'm not a big sucker for magazines, if my magazine capacity goes over 0, then something is going very wrong

lucid nova
soft jasper
#

right

#

that is

#

true

#

holy hell

cobalt dock
soft jasper
#

but like, the less mag the better :3

lucid nova
#

yeah i said that

lucid nova
cobalt dock
#

ah, alot of text

soft jasper
#

so that i have to shoot less for bloody ammo to trigger if i reload by accident

lucid nova
#

yeah xD

#

i might mess around a bit with some incriptions and monkey later

soft jasper
#

whats wrong with spores btw

#

valid gemini

lucid nova
soft jasper
#

not so broken later

lucid nova
#

very very onsided inscriptions

soft jasper
#

its a very silly +10m per shot inscription

#

worthless tho

#

elemental share better

lucid nova
#

in endless yes, regular gameplay no

soft jasper
#

elemental share best gemini ๐Ÿ”ฅ

lucid nova
#

spores is probably the most no skill thing in the game

#

and there are alot of things competing with it

soft jasper
#

damn

#

whats so bad about it

#

oh yeah

#

rainbow + shotgun

lucid nova
#

ye

#

and you can get is as early as stage 2

#

after that its game over

soft jasper
#

what

#

but

#

don't you need 5+ weapon levels to inscribe gemini

lucid nova
#

yeah

#

monkey exists

soft jasper
lucid nova
#

give extra weapon levels when you hit someone with ur secondary ability

soft jasper
#

to get gemini before 2nd stage

#

oh

#

what

#

the fuck

#

permanently?

lucid nova
#

no?

soft jasper
lucid nova
#

yeah'

#

weapon level is a weapon level

soft jasper
#

got it

graceful phoenix
#

the luckiest blade ive ever seen

soft jasper
#

for the love of god

#

also that is like

#

eh

split plinth
#

you think they'll ever remove the damage cap?

#

iirc its 150m rn (someone correct me if isnt) and enemy hp keeps scaling while you're stuck at 150m

#

like for more build variety for example

proud shale
#

10 mil base for weapons, 30 mil for skills

#

higher with element/ combustion

#

iirc