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[gaunt blaze]

would help if i had better reaction time and focus.

[soft jasper]

normal -> elite -> nightmare -> reincarnation

don't just skip straight to reincarnation

[gaunt blaze]

why not? i get the same distance in the game either way

i'm not even joking

[soft jasper]

... because again, all the modes have different mechanics and expect a certain level of skill and knowledge when playing them

if the developers wanted you to jump straight to reincarnation without a care in the world, earlier difficulties wouldn't exist

go beat normal

[mellow cosmos]

And also how to get High DMG with Crown Prince 😗. What does it request.

[gaunt blaze]

but.... idc what the developers think.....

[mellow cosmos]

That is why you cant beat the boss on rein

[soft jasper]

painkiller

[fallen escarp]

At this point, if it wasn't so fundamental to the game's progression, the developers probably would make earlier difficulties not exist.

[soft jasper]

my man you cant get past stage 3 in desert

[soft jasper]

but it is so

[soft jasper]

essentially just painkiller blessing (i also like adding Elemental Maestro), all the Dominance ascensions maxxed, elemental rage maxxed, and a high elemental chance weapon like a justice, fire dragon, or any melee

oh yeah and elemental share gemini works well

[mellow cosmos]

Does Element dmg cap at 15m ?

[soft jasper]

yes, with advantage

however damage cap is per projectile

so a high projectile justice, or a Porcupine, would do v high damage

[mellow cosmos]

Then what does the Highest DMG Deal stat mean after completion. I have a 12,6 B

[soft jasper]

most likely the thunder arcane

fuck if i know

maybe they swapped it with actual max dmg dealt by accident

[mellow cosmos]

Ojay, Thank you

[mellow cosmos]

My Max DMG is 144,6 B

[soft jasper]

jesus fuck

[mellow cosmos]

They probably didn't swap.

[soft jasper]

ok i have no idea why are the numbers so big

[mellow cosmos]

It is in boundless mode. Maybe in boundless dmg scale with stage ?.

[gaunt blaze]

sooo.. full disclosure, i haven't attempted normal mode since actually farming up the resources to get lots of taletns.....

wow there's a difference

legit.... reincarnation feels like normal felt before i got almost a full talent tree

so just to be sure, this says "if you shoot a thing, then when ironwing shoots that thing, it will take 40 percent more damage", right? cause ironwing scales on skill dmg

[soft jasper]

OH YEAH

i see now

it probably uses dmg before cap

dunno

[soft jasper]

yes

and missiles from you or wing, or mecha drop etc will deal +40% damage

[gaunt blaze]

sooo since i'm not reloading,b tu instead grabbing ammo directly from reserve, that means that those projectivles can stack, right?

giving me a TON of multishot?

[soft jasper]

its only up to 2 projectiles

sadly

[gaunt blaze]

damn

[soft jasper]

good enough tho

triple dps

[gaunt blaze]

here i was hoping to go full on warframe mode

have like 500 percent bullet

curse you game balance!

[soft jasper]

you're on normal i hope?

[gaunt blaze]

yeah i'm on normal. but at the same time, the above thing nullifies this ability right?

[soft jasper]

yes

i recommend using bloody ammo instead imo

[gaunt blaze]

and yes, i'm fully aware that i'm asking lots of stupid questions also asking repeated questions. just trying to learn

[soft jasper]

as it triggers buffs like Deadly Counter, Stone Skin, Resilient Life etc

its fine. just dont aim for reincarnation when you havent beaten normal

[gaunt blaze]

well shit..... boss 2 is down..... in about 30 seconds.... since i'm treating everything like i'm playing on reincarnation

[soft jasper]

nightmare is the hardest diff in the game and imo you should beat it before ever trying reincarnation

[gaunt blaze]

soooo this, when combined with that thing that says "iron wing gains 1hp per kill" turns it into a nuke right?

[soft jasper]

in a way, yes

[gaunt blaze]

welll....

i've seen it get up to almost 2k hp

and that talent goes up to what was it... 70?

aaaand that's 140k dmg

which is a lot

is there somewhere i can see my lucky shot chance?

if i have more than 100 percent lucky shot chance. does that mean i can double lucky shot?

[mellow cosmos]

Lucky shot increase dmg x2 x3 or x4

150% lucky shot is 100% x2 and 50% x3🤷 that is how i think.

[gaunt blaze]

soooo this says "owned"

i do have that scroll

so i'm guessing there's no point in picking up a duplicate is there?

[fallen escarp]

You literally can't pick up duplicates.

[gaunt blaze]

oh

booooooo

soooo that means that there is a power cap no matter how long you go in endless mode?

[fallen escarp]

Yes, but actually no.

Because Miasma exists.

[gaunt blaze]

so using these three things together should work provided i use the passive on the revealer, right?

[fallen escarp]

Yes.

[gaunt blaze]

and considering the infinite clip i have from the other scroll..... absurd amounts of damage are mine!

[gaunt blaze]

wow...... just completed normal mode. it was so easy. i legit could have possibly done it one handed

[gaunt blaze]

does this affect iron wing?

[desert trout]

Fire mode yes

Since its dmg is based on hardwood missile

[gaunt blaze]

could someoen eexplain this scroll to me? it's badly worded

[lunar bridge]

"Your weapon hits have a (100 - 3.5 per projectile)% chance to hit twice but at a cost of -50% Total DMG."
...is how i understand it.

[gaunt blaze]

oh..... that is utterly stupid

yas! first reincarnation victory!

onto endless mode!

[glad iris]

I think you mean boundless.

[gaunt blaze]

taht

yes

crazy what you can do with an irresponsible amount of missiles. 😄

[fallen escarp]

And an irresponsible amount of free revives. Assuming you've got that already.

[gaunt blaze]

oh.....

[green rampart]

Question. I'm playing and have a great run, decimating all that is in my path. Then suddenly, I'm now shooting out of my reserve most of the time, and I extensively checked all my scrolls. None make me shoot out of reserve.
I'm playing rein 3 and am currently in the Bizarre dream endless, how come I'm shooting out of my reserve?

[desert trout]

Who you playing as

[green rampart]

Bunny.

[gaunt blaze]

jeez. i just nuked hte dragon so fast it coudlnt' enter its invuln phase

[green rampart]

Sometimes it consumes both reserve and the mag

[desert trout]

So like when you fire you will see the left number and the right number both go down? At the ammo part of your screen

[gaunt blaze]

"recycle bonus +2" what does this do for me?

[green rampart]

yes. Both go down.

[desert trout]

Wep dmg skill dmg bonuses

Plus cooldown reduction

[green rampart]

I'm using the Scalpel, if that helps.

[wet barn]

bullet light?

[desert trout]

Do you have warlike blade maybe it’s just doing the not consuming ammo part in a funky way

[green rampart]

OOOH

yeah that's it.

thank you so much.

it was Bullet Light.

[gaunt blaze]

geez the "iron wing won't drop below 1 hp" is hilarious.

step 1: place down turret
step 2: hide in a corner
step 3: wait for everything to die

is there a cap on enemy damage resistance?

[fallen escarp]

Yes.

[fallen escarp]

So hilarious that it got buffed for no reason to what it is now.

[green rampart]

I have almost -500% DR.
Is this bad?

[fallen escarp]

Very bad. Though if you've gotten that far, it probably doesn't mean much.

[mellow cosmos]

upgarde the scroll to enhanced one.

[green rampart]

Immediately went down to -80%, thanks.

[cobalt dock]

which means you have Spirit Feline

then DR means nothing

[mellow cosmos]

My enemy has Sprir Feline
I totally regret that 😢

[soft jasper]

use a high rof weapon

and take advantafe

and next time you pikc scrolls, pick as many as you can to offset it

so that it spawns less

[mellow cosmos]

Thanks

But can you be more specific in "take advantage" and "offset"

I dont get it

[desert trout]

since the max dmg you can do is 14% of the enemy hp per hit, more rate of fire = more hits

lets say you take a weapon that fires slower but deals more damage in one hit usually like tiger cannon, but tiger cannon is not useful now since the dmg cap per hit is 14% of the enemy hp still, so use something fast firing like the scalpel to deal a lot of 14% hp hits within the same time frame

"offset" is since in interdependent fortunes enemies get effects based on the scrolls u pick, enemies can have 2-5 scrolls effect at any moment, the more scrolls u pick the lower the chances of the spirit feline buff being present for enemies

[soft jasper]

damage is doubled but you can't do more than 14%

so high rof beats all

[bleak quest]

My favorite blessing

[mellow cosmos]

I will take note of that. The whole time before, I thought the enemy had every scrolls😅

[soft jasper]

seems p weak to me idk

not worth the blessing slot it's in

now eye of providence...

[bleak quest]

It's really good on owl

[soft jasper]

ok i suppose thats the exception

[gaunt blaze]

wouldn't that make enemies immortal tho?

[soft jasper]

that's... on the player

also, no, that'd make them take 6x damage

[gaunt blaze]

wouldn't this mean that they take 13 percent less dmg?

[cobalt dock]

thats not what he referred to, but yes

[soft jasper]

yes

[gaunt blaze]

oh

[soft jasper]

but the player has his own damage resistance as well

look below the health bar

that shield reflecting a projectile thingy with a number next to it is the damage resistance of you

[gaunt blaze]

yeah i know about that

[lunar bridge]

idunno, having your secondary skill dealing double (with a chance to triple) damage is kinda pog to me.

though i doubt it'll be useful in both boundless and endless bcuz of enemy scaling.

[bleak quest]

Skill damage isn't that useful in boundless/endless because of the scaling but it's pretty good if you're doing normal runs, or if you're speedrunning and need a blessing for good damage

[soft jasper]

my fav blessing is counterviolence

its so silly

"RAHH FUCK AIM I'M CARPET BOMBING YOU WITH A 6X CRIT JUSTICE"

[bleak quest]

If you like crit so much then run gradual improvement on Thunder Cat

[soft jasper]

what's gradual improvement

[desert trout]

tiger spiritual blessing

[soft jasper]

what does it do

[desert trout]

each crit hit adds +0.3x crit

for a max stack of 30

[soft jasper]

thats

silly

[desert trout]

so +9.0 crit

[soft jasper]

cat?

[desert trout]

yep

[soft jasper]

but thats a tiger blessing

[desert trout]

pair it with lightning messenger also a tiger blessing which applies lightning on a crit hit and enemies around that enemy

[bleak quest]

Thunder Cat is Tiger lmao

[soft jasper]

OH

i just realized

whoops

[desert trout]

and here the kicker all enemy with lightning gets dealt 200% wep and skill dmg

[bleak quest]

I call him Thunder Cat

[soft jasper]

i like mechs more so nona it is

mecha drop too silly

[bleak quest]

Anyways this is on the phone website so it's cropped badly

[soft jasper]

"STAND BY FOR TITANFALL"

[bleak quest]

I ran it with a sniper build

[soft jasper]

sniper boring imo

[desert trout]

just use counterviolence to reap all the crit bs tiger can do

[bleak quest]

Piercing Flame with the Blue Bow, I forgot the name of it

[soft jasper]

strike wing

[desert trout]

like a chance of doing chain lightning on a crit hit

[bleak quest]

And both had the shared Gemini, and both had the critical enhancement

It was nuts

[soft jasper]

what if

tiger counterviolence with a flowing light

[desert trout]

what about radiation glove

[bleak quest]

Ew flowing light

[desert trout]

you can shit out lightning

[soft jasper]

flowing light haters smh

[bleak quest]

I don't use it that often but that auto targets right

[soft jasper]

it has hella high base damage for most weapons

[desert trout]

yep

and refracts to hit 3 targets

https://tenor.com/view/ggundam-anime-gif-5180932

[bleak quest]

Yeah but it's slow

[desert trout]

me when i find radiation glove

[soft jasper]

2rps seems ok to me

[bleak quest]

A similar thing can be done with rainbow and magical supply

[desert trout]

wont my rainbow hit be weak tho

[bleak quest]

With magical supply not really

[gaunt blaze]

ngl the dark faced bandit is kinda super op

[soft jasper]

don't tell him

[bleak quest]

Based, tankier than normal

[soft jasper]

so is a sniper... so like ?

[bleak quest]

But it has high damage

[desert trout]

wait so the build is rainbow auto aim kill guy then i recast

[soft jasper]

so does a FL

550 base damage

[bleak quest]

And tiger specializes in snipers

[gaunt blaze]

it's like "lol i charge you and 1 shot you while my weakspot is my back. oops you died"

[soft jasper]

he also specializes in lightning

and crits

and melee FUCKS with crits

[bleak quest]

It autoaims and refills the primary skill cool down

[desert trout]

gotta try that one day

[bleak quest]

Snipers fucks with crits, those weapons have the highest crits in the game

[desert trout]

reminds me of bl2 zer0

[soft jasper]

btw chatot idk if i told you but boundless dmg res cap is 99%

[gaunt blaze]

it's... interesting. but the rainbow cannot crit. it aims for the chest

[desert trout]

3-4 of them is like doing a virtual bull run

[soft jasper]

zer0 😭 that was some dirty sniper shit i loved it

[gaunt blaze]

wait can it crit the thingw ith the x on its back?

[soft jasper]

Point & Click Adventure

[desert trout]

yep

[gaunt blaze]

if you fire at its back, the center point that it fires at would....

nice

[desert trout]

infinite range

[bleak quest]

It can crit if you mark an enemies weak spot with it

[soft jasper]

it can also crit with deadlt counter or counterviolence

Bloody Ammo FTW

[desert trout]

imagine if theres no draw distance or stage separation and you just hit pole monarch with rainbow from longling

[bleak quest]

If you want to see it in action then I'd recommend watching a speedrun of it

[soft jasper]

bloody ammo is so badass

compared to adv depot

[desert trout]

how do i get rainbow to do crazy dmg tho

such that it can ohko

[gaunt blaze]

i do not understand the appeal of bloody ammo unless you are using a launcher

and also have some way to heal yourself

[soft jasper]

theres a scroll called Deadly Counter that makes all hits crits for 3s after damage

[bleak quest]

I would rather take advanced depot for shared magazine build

[soft jasper]

theres also Resilient Life that heals 5% of hp over 3s when taking damage

[gaunt blaze]

oh..... that counts..... okay that would be interesting

[desert trout]

wow i always skipped this

[gaunt blaze]

could see that working on certain snipers too

[desert trout]

cant believe theres a synergy for that

[soft jasper]

it counters bloody ammo and spirit feline in a way

at least offsets feline

[desert trout]

my only use so far is making sure i can get bluff topped up thats all lol

[soft jasper]

theres also Vindictive Nature but idk if bloody ammo triggers it

oh yeah also

bloody ammo uses no ammo

unlike adv depot which melts yo reserves

[gaunt blaze]

since double caliber fires twice with one click, does that mean that you lose 2 hp or just 1?

[soft jasper]

AND it has an enhanced version that can +100% damage

[desert trout]

i miss the old depot the double consumption is hell on high rof stuff

[soft jasper]

nope

you can conusme 5 ammo in one shot but it will only take 1% of hp

[gaunt blaze]

that... would make that the most effective sniper for use of this strat

[soft jasper]

not exactly, but in a way i suppose

[gaunt blaze]

i guess the next best would be the lightning ksana since it's got a 4.5 crit multiplier

[soft jasper]

theres an exclusive inscription that adds 1 projectile but doubles ammo used

OH YEAH

bloody ammo also keeps the Magazine Modification ascension always on

if mag is smaller than 10

[gaunt blaze]

adds one projectile but doubles the ammo consumption doesn't matter to the double caliber tho

[soft jasper]

yea

[gaunt blaze]

when it crits with both shots it refunds your bullets

[soft jasper]

lmao thats silly

[gaunt blaze]

oh... wait.... no...

[desert trout]

so bloody and resilent will always keep your hp maxed

[soft jasper]

oh yeah

that would fuck it up

[gaunt blaze]

return 2 ammo, would only return 2 ammo

[soft jasper]

depends on RoF but yep kinda

[gaunt blaze]

thus you'd still expend 2 ammo

[soft jasper]

with other methods of healing it fucks

[desert trout]

nice gonna actually use scalpel now

[soft jasper]

also heavy shield makes only 50% of shots take dmg

if enhanced

otherwise, 40%

[desert trout]

time to remove my scalpel hater title

[gaunt blaze]

sigh i wish i liked more of the weapons

but i dislike 90 percent of the weapons in this game

[soft jasper]

bloody ammo can +100% damage if enhanced too

p silly

[desert trout]

i only use like 5 nowadays

radiation glove, thunder storm

argus hell and striek wing

thats it

[soft jasper]

the only weapons i like are:
flowing light
fire tower
thundrstorm
justice
fire dragon
porcupine

in order

i dont really like more generic weapons like shotguns, smgs, rifles etc

[desert trout]

where poison sword

[soft jasper]

funny bomb lizard, cool lightning sword and flamethrower slippery dragon is peak

[soft jasper]

nowhere, it feels mid

[desert trout]

damn

[gaunt blaze]

hmmm the goshawk might work well too

[desert trout]

use it with tiger you can be zer0

[soft jasper]

it has shitty sfx and a mid secondary imo

[gaunt blaze]

especially if you get this

[soft jasper]

well, mid secondary in MY opinion, people say its the shit

fire tower is cool metal pipe

or uh, hot metal pipe for thta matter

the funniest shit is when you run it on Cat and 3shot golem

[desert trout]

neeed this

i hate aiming

[soft jasper]

try multiproj justice

its a bomb shotgun

you literally just have to aim in that general direction and it gets wiped

[desert trout]

pov you are golem

[soft jasper]

when i get home ill try to save my endless run and see if i can give you my 2nd justice

oh wait, idk if itll still be in vault..

oh it should be

wait

wait

hold the fuck up

i just realized i can dupe weapons

... fuck

@desert trout wanna know a cool trick

[desert trout]

wait how

[soft jasper]

ok so

i copy my savefile

save it elsewhere

then use the one that its copied from

end the run

take the weapon

give it to a friend

then switch back to the other savefile

boom

2 copies of same weapon

lol. lmao even

[desert trout]

yooooooooooo

who has god scalpels here

[soft jasper]

i do

two

[desert trout]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

need one with all the projectile stuff

[soft jasper]

ill show em once i get home

yeah i think i have one close to that

[desert trout]

+1
55%
65% elemental
+0.2
20%

my dream scalpel

[soft jasper]

i have something.. similiar i think

ill check

[desert trout]

7.75 projectiles at maxed lmao

[soft jasper]

how you gonna apply elemental tho

[desert trout]

pew pew pew

conversion

[soft jasper]

thats what YOU think

[desert trout]

hoard all elemental

prerabbly lightning

[soft jasper]

its gonna be like

5

i bet yo ass

projectiles work weird af in this game

anyway

[desert trout]

nah bro scalpel dual mode 2 + 1 from orange + 4 from blue (no reload)

[soft jasper]

i think porcupine might JUST be the highest dps weapon in the game

dunno tho

it can have like

55 projectiles? or something

[desert trout]

i wish porcupine can have the autoaim inscription

[soft jasper]

if each one damagecaps

thats

825 million damage

+45 from explosive bullets

• 7.5 from elemental mag

[desert trout]

bruh

now imagine dog dual wielding

[soft jasper]

BILLIONS MUST DIE

fuck now i wanna try that

[soft jasper]

or with Tao RoF

@desert trout oj fuck i just realized

its only 55 projectiles with monkey

[desert trout]

wait monke can up projectile?

[soft jasper]

cudgel or whatever

@desert trout ok oops it cant be 55

it doesnt have the +30% inscription @oblique abyss

ok so gimme a moment

[desert trout]

oh yeah shotgun cudgel

[soft jasper]

@desert trout ok so it has 21 projectiles, +25% from generalist (+5.25) + 20% from Armor Breaker (+4.2) +30% from Multiple(6.3) for a total of 35.75, with Monkey the Generalist bonus would be +15.75 for a total of 46.25

cudgel... can only do 10 hits apparently @desert trout

so 46.25 projectiles it is

693.75m on average, +15million from elemag, +45million from explosive bullets (only every 2 secs tho) @desert trout

also oops i calculated elemag as 7.5 last time but its actually 15 if your damage before cap is high enough

same applies to Fish or Bear Paw

it can double damage if you deal 30m before cap

also would need eleshare to deal those bigass numbers per hit, for elemental adv

that is, 753.75 million damage

damn good if you ask me

3.50 rps too

@mystic shoal porcupine can have 2.638 billion dps

on Monkey

wait no

a little lower

on non-monkey that is 1.95 billion ish per second

on Monkey, that's... 2.5 billion dps

@desert trout

scary shit

angelic aura can do uhh 1.62 billion

holy fuck

[cobalt dock]

i got my AAs dps to 8bil

[soft jasper]

porcupine might be the highest dps weapon in the game

[cobalt dock]

idk my math then

[soft jasper]

at base

[cobalt dock]

won't lie, i have not read that wall

[soft jasper]

with rof boosting inscription i suppose

[soft jasper]

wait what's the math

i'm doing like

oh yeah i missed a little oops

[cobalt dock]

Fish and Bearpaw is not active with that many projectiles

[soft jasper]

OH YEAH

fish and bear paw

forgot that exisrs

[desert trout]

will bunny finally get her rest

[soft jasper]

okay so

angelic aura with elemag and explosive bullets has

2.0025 billion dps

[cobalt dock]

Explosive bullet has no reason to be accounted for, does it

[soft jasper]

with fish and bear paw that's uh... 4 billion ish?

god damn

[soft jasper]

why not? 45 million

that's

an extra 22.5 million per second

[cobalt dock]

🤷‍♂️

does elemental mag not proc multiple times from one shot?

[soft jasper]

elemental mag procs once per shot for 15 million extra

so

an angelic aura can have 4.5 projectiles

x15 from elemental adv

67.5

+15 from elemag

x24 for rps

1.98 billion

• 22.5 million from expl bullets

2.0025 billion

dps

on AA

@cobalt dock okay so

2.0025×(2×(((100−(4.5×3.5))÷100)))

for fish and bear paw

wait

ok too many brackets oops

2.0025×(2×(100−(4.5×3.5))÷100)

if the AA has 4.5 projectiles

from Multiple, 20% to gain 1, +1proj +100consump, +0.2 per kill

3.37 billion

@desert trout i guess Tao AA aint getting her rest but its damn close

lemme see how much dps my justice has

[cobalt dock]

try making this into 1 line

[soft jasper]

okay so

[grand tendon]

anyone wanna join r9 run? we need 1 more ik we have to ask in the lf for groups but we need one more

[soft jasper]

(((15x4.5)x24+15)x24+22.5)x(2x((100-(4.5x3.5))/100)) @cobalt dock

should work idk

[cobalt dock]

i just meant spam less

[soft jasper]

ah ok

nobody's really talking anyway ¯_(ツ)_/¯

@cobalt dock though that's for a godroll AA... you can get that 2-2.5 billion out of any Multiple Porcupine that damagecaps

also AA can only do like 1.4 billion without multiprojectile

and like half of rhat without elemag lol

@desert trout wanna try the weapon dupe trick in a bit

[desert trout]

Can’t bro I gotta sleep

It’s 2am where I’m at lol

[soft jasper]

ah ok

anyway

seems like justice's pool does 30% of damage every 0.5 seconds for 3.5 seconds

lemme test

ok around that yeah

that's... 7 damage procs

jesus fuck

lets see how much damage my justice does

okay my justice has a solid 500 million dps from initial hit

like 300ish million dps from the lavapools

funky

not bad at all imo

wait thatd be even more

since i make a shitton of lava pools

jesus christ

oh god

is this a good rainbow

[desert trout]

You have the wep exclusive stuff so it’s good

Swap out last 2

[soft jasper]

what the fuck

why am i not taking damage

likei literally cant selfdmg

im spamming left click and bloody ammo wont damage me

this is bad

WHY

what is going on

why am i immune to damage

please help

it is not heavy shield or windrider btw

i love how enemies kill themselves from shooting me

bloody ammo itnerdep fortunes moment

also thunder screen does hella dmg what

@desert trout yo check this

i just killed gluttony with a foundry

[soft jasper]

comical

@desert trout a

fuck did i just recycle flesh and bones and heavy shield

oopsie

ok what

capacity overdraft DOES do dmg

omw to unenhance? bloody ammo

lemme restore save to recover da sccrolls

ok done cool

[soft jasper]

@mellow cosmos so the dupe worked dang

have fun with your shiny new justice

save restore worked

fucking beautiful

[mellow cosmos]

I appreciate it.

[green rampart]

Got to stage 100!

[proud shale]

i only see 100, not 100!

[soft jasper]

stage 93326215443944152681699238856266700490715968264381621468592963895217599993229915608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864000000000000000000000000 sounds fun

[proud shale]

real

[soft jasper]

Nona Wins By Doing Absolutely Nothing

truly one of the Thunder Screen moments ever

[soft jasper]

WEAK

[green rampart]

hmm. A challenge?

[soft jasper]

yes. i challenge you to get to stage 500 endless with nona and a Justice

[green rampart]

oh I don't have Nona.

[soft jasper]

okay then, with Bird

smh all the ultra high dps tao players

hm

[green rampart]

Very well. The bird will get to stage 500.

[fallen escarp]

Not much of a challenge.

[mellow cosmos]

i will try with "Clown Prince"

[soft jasper]

mfw get bored at stage 250ish

[soft jasper]

the challenge is not getting bored to shit

[soft jasper]

cat is some of the most broken shit in the game the hell do you mean

[bleak quest]

Didn't you do boundless? If so then that's not a challenge at all, boundless doesn't have a timer and the DR scaling goes way faster in endless

[soft jasper]

whoops typo, yeah i meant boundless

the real challenge really is not getting bored

it's the definition of a fucking slog

[bleak quest]

That's been in endless if you have right setups

Everything gets boring in this game if you even break the mechanics just a bit

[soft jasper]

whoever thought of the 99% cap is a madman

i'm just gonna get to stage 1000 ish then try to get stage 300 or so in endless with a justice

more if i can

without paranormality/flesh n bones cheese

cat would probably work best

or mayb li

[green rampart]

wait, there's cheese with Paranormality and Flesh/n/bones?

[fallen escarp]

Yes.

[mellow cosmos]

How does it work

[fallen escarp]

Step 1: Give enemies Paranormality and Flesh and Bones, using Interdependent Fortunes.
Step 2: Don't pick any other scroll. Though if you absolutely must, 1 scroll is probably acceptable.
Step 3: Every single non-boss enemy with both scrolls will have their shield/armor converted to HP, and then their 0 shield/armor doubled to 0 but their HP set to 1.

[mellow cosmos]

Ahh so that

[long knoll]

Guys

What's the highest stage have you ever reach with endless journey ?

[fallen escarp]

Whatever point that something breaks at.

Because anyone can reach that. It's not hard, just requires mind-numbing levels of patience.

[vapid crag]

can you still get this achivment by getting the free spiritual blessing via bizzare dream

[green rampart]

I mean...

technically it's not purchasing if you don't get it from the guy...

idk though.

[desert trout]

This is to get the cheesiest Interdependent Fortunes I assume?

[green rampart]

So as it turns out, Turtles have learned how to fly.

[long knoll]

LMAO

XD

[desert trout]

the turtle birb update

[gaunt blaze]

does this affect iron wing?

[proud shale]

iron wing is primary skill

[gaunt blaze]

oh... i'm getting the two confsued

woops

[soft jasper]

he is? so does stuff like terrific crossfire reduce cd of charging crush and the uhhh missile thingy

[nimble flint]

its a Primary CD

the only one Terrific has no effect on is Li

as she doesnt have a CD

[soft jasper]

i mean the CDs for charging crush and such

[nimble flint]

His abilities are not tied to your Primary skill

What he uses on deploy is something else as that is indirectly tied to your CD

as it is on cast

[soft jasper]

fun

[knotty spoke]

guys i need help with a trophie

i just need to revive my teammates in spiritual assault

[mellow cosmos]

Givr me the room code

Hmmm. @knotty spoke

[knotty spoke]

okay

[knotty spoke]

sent to to looking for group in global

[nimble flint]

either dm them or use the rooms

[mellow cosmos]

500 ping

[undone mica]

is soul essence capped at 25k?

[mellow cosmos]

Yess

How many revive you need

[knotty spoke]

i dont usually play multyplayer so these throphies always are the hardest for me haha

[undone mica]

its not about the revives really, i just wanted to keep seeing the number go up lol

[mellow cosmos]

Ah. That line is talked to pccp01.

[lucid nova]

time to break my pb in one hit

yo????? tripple tier 3??? thats crazy

if any1 thinks r9 is hard, think better

@cobalt dock pretty funny clip :D

also pretty funny how r9 serpent has less than 8mil hp

[soft jasper]

LOL

[lucid nova]

woa just realized my time, pretty good time since i did all the vaults

death

just realized i forgot to turn on ascension fusion while im doing boundless :(

[lucid nova]

surely its a good sign if it doesnt show the stored dmg anymore

it was at 1.5bil before it went poof

i mean it did something

[lucid nova]

@cobalt dock spicy?

improvements

now here is the real question, since the devs basicly added uncapped dmg back why not remove the dmg cap completely?

[soft jasper]

perfectly balanced

[lilac bramble]

yo the interdependent fortunes for evil-banishing talisman;enemy effect= -80 to inflict elementaleffect chance, isnt that good for us tho? does that mean it's our chance to inflict or theirs

[soft jasper]

your chance to inflict

[lilac bramble]

ait that clears it up thanks

[blazing summit]

how does the thunder step arcane ascension work with fatal current?

[rich terrace]

What’s the most overpower guns for crown prince? And Gemini effect

[fallen escarp]

Smoke Grenade with Painkiller.

You may notice that it is neither a weapon nor a gemini effect. You would be correct.

[rich terrace]

That too. But still want something to shoot. I heard AuraOfVenom/porcupine and Firetower is a good Gemini combo. But not sure what Gemini exactly

[lilac bramble]

elemental share gemini

[rich terrace]

Is there a better combo that porcupine+fire tower?

[fallen escarp]

Porcupine sucks with Fire Tower.

Combustion has a cooldown per trigger. The moment a single pellet triggers Combustion, none of the others can.

So out of those 26 or so projectiles, only 1 will deal extra damage.

[rich terrace]

Has this been nerfed recently? I learned this combo from Reddit that was posted few months ago

So I should be looking for a elemental weapon with high ROF but single projectile instead?

[fallen escarp]

Definitely not recently.

The change was done on... 07/29/2022. That's almost 1.5 years ago.

[lilac bramble]

aura of venom with a fire weapon with high elemental chance is pretty nice.

[rich terrace]

Thanks

I just missed a few venoms in my current run. What a shame

[lilac bramble]

u might wanna try paying attention to stuff like Lucky Shot, Crit Hits, elemental fusion effects, and other damage multipliers as u proceed. it'll really help ya make stronger builds on ya own.

[lilac bramble]

the right click is what makes it so strong cos u can proc elements really fast.

[lilac bramble]

how do u usually refer on these mechanics? do ya just check the patch notes or u got a good link we can use?

[rich terrace]

Maybe wiki. It looks like having all the patches relating to a topic, like Gemini effect

[fallen escarp]

I use these, for different purposes:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1217060
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1217060/announcements

[lilac bramble]

thanks yo

[lilac bramble]

cos valuable info like these I don't think they show on the wiki unless they updated it. Last time I used wiki it was kinda slow on the update so i havent checked in a while

[fallen escarp]

The first one lets me grab specific notes for showing other people, by opening them in another tab.

The second I use for the Find Word fuction, if I don't want to go searching.

[gaunt blaze]

excuse me wut?

do i... even want to know how that's possible?

[cobalt dock]

Owl moment

[primal dagger]

quick question, are you able to get exlusive level frames in an endless game?

[fallen escarp]

Don't see why not.

[primal dagger]

Thanks, I've been trying to get one that's ascension dependent and haven't had any luck

Figure mashing my face in endless will probably help

[gaunt blaze]

so does temporary crit dmg affect armed caster?

for example "you get more crit dmg on the first 10 shots"

or this

[fallen escarp]

It does, as long as the bonus remains.

Which means not doing anything to cancel it, not letting its duration run out, and not swapping away from the weapon.

[soft jasper]

i would not want to be hit in the face with that

[gaunt blaze]

what's red and bad for your teeth?

a brick.

[mellow cosmos]

An apple

[soft jasper]

blood

it has sugar in it

[candid sorrel]

Do we know how much time does a season last?

[fallen escarp]

3-4 months.

[gaunt blaze]

soooo anyc hance there's a way to remove this highlighted bit?

[desert trout]

as in you still want training masters to appear?

[gaunt blaze]

yes

sigh wish this game had mods

[gaunt blaze]

ngl i don't know WHY this game doesn't have mods. it's a good candidate for them

[fallen escarp]

Because the devs don't want them, exception being the VR mod.

And by further extent, talk about any non-VR mod isn't allowed here.

[blazing summit]

What is the cats best build on reincarnation?

[desert trout]

Thunder storm with counter violence with painkiller and elemental maestro and smog bound zone

Get as much spiritual links as possible

Select thunder step arcane ascension and select arcane jade only at green chests to max out that bad boy

Spam shift and press m1 in a general direction and delete a room

[blazing summit]

whats first priority for blessings and do i just go elemental share for fire damage? (sorry for such a late response havent been able to get on for a bit)

[hexed lagoon]

So, I am now officially in Team Porcupine. Which characters get the most out of the gun? My intuition is either Monke or Bunny. Crown Prince maybe as well.

[desert trout]

It’s all good, first blessing to pick is counterviolence or painkiller from lone wolf menu

Then keep quitting at entrance of longling till you get the other one, cause we want to keep our wep dmg high early and also any element effect caused will inflict all 3 elements and all 3 fusion effects at one go

Save quit at anxi entrance till you get elemental maestro since it’s multiplicative 90% elemental damage and ignores damage debuffs if element dmg doesn’t match with type of shield or armor or hp the enemy has

Save quit at duo fjord till you get smogbound zone, the +50% elemental dmg will be useful since you prolly have something that can activate grenades often by then (acidominance 3)

Use crit share Gemini with strike wing the silver bow or spore with Argus

[blazing summit]

cant abuse save quit sadly bc multiplayer with friends

[desert trout]

I’d say dog too because he can hold 2 of it and has wep dmg boosting ascensions

[desert trout]

It’s alright just make sure you get painkiller first

First prirority

Combustion fusion effect alone on command from grenade allows your whole team to multiply their damage on the enemy with it

[soft jasper]

monkey

[hexed lagoon]

I thought so too; my only hesitation is that he typically loses out on the ascensions that increase RoF. He also doesn't have Ele Maestro to remove the damage type penalty

[soft jasper]

jusr use elemental share gemini

he adds like

half a billion dps to porcupine

with Weapon Mastery

[hexed lagoon]

That assumes he doesn't miss out on ascensions that boost RoF

I guess it also depends on the inscriptions that the gun has

As well as the clearing speed boost from just having so many projectiles...hmm

[cobalt dock]

the only upside for him is a blessing for more proj, and the bonus inscription from acensions

[hexed lagoon]

Right and my question if that blessing and the extra ascension by itself makes him better than other heroes for that gun.

[cobalt dock]

not really

it only in the context of the minmax endless where hits per second is king

otherwise i would not

[soft jasper]

okay so, if all hits damage cap, monkey has around 2.5 billion dps with porcupine, while other characters have 2 billion

like yes i guess rof is a thing but this is at base rof

this assumes you have generalist + multiple + armor breaker

[mellow cosmos]

Just want to say that I rolled out Multiple, on that Justice

[soft jasper]

same

ive also gotten a second justice, that im trying to roll 0.2+ proj on

[blazing summit]

interesting build (we lost but oh well)

[mellow cosmos]

uh, why i random get +3 on upgrade

+2 is hidden transaction, understandable

[fallen escarp]

Hidden Transaction + Arms Trafficker on enemies.

[mellow cosmos]

is it curse?

[fallen escarp]

Arms Trafficker is a cursed scroll, yes.

[mellow cosmos]

thanks

[lilac bramble]

yo how did get it this high? genuinely curious, is it like an owl thing?

[cobalt dock]

Bet it All T3

[lilac bramble]

i seeeeee thanks

i didnt know it gave crit x bonus too

so im assuming u get it from a wild astroaspect?

[lunar portal]

the thorns are a bit broken

[fallen escarp]

You can say that about many things in this game.

It's more surprising when something is added and it isn't broken, like Storm Chaser.

[lunar portal]

...true

[dark girder]

Did a build with thunder pool and leap, turned out a little better than I thought honestly

[lunar portal]

the thing about the torns is that is "fully afk"

since it keeps using my grenade and when it does that it generates another spike

because of that it generates a lot of swords[

[lunar portal]

but yea the stored damage from thunder is super busted too... since now it permits you to one shot almost all bosses

[hardy field]

I need help

[inland moss]

for how long will the pass be available? broke my arm and can't play even though I really want to complete it. ;(

[fallen escarp]

3-4 months.

You likely won't lose any opportunities even if you don't play during that time.

[inland moss]

Alright, thank you.

[lilac bramble]

what enhanced attribute would u guys for radioactive gloves? I think Agile is good bbut I kinda wanna do Elemental attribute.

[soft jasper]

element is kinda ass on any of the gloves anyway, get agile

[desert trout]

agile

more dps

also eventually you gonna proc element anyway, plus elemental boost is very little

i dont think it even breaks 2 digits chance

[soft jasper]

7% on glove

which is like

"lol lmao you aint proccin SHIT" territory

[desert trout]

thats why rof is king baby and thats where queen tao comes in

go agile

[soft jasper]

or you can just

elemental gemini

unarguably single most powerful gemini in the game

[desert trout]

take painkiller my beloved

[soft jasper]

ye

[desert trout]

devs should remove it for an april fools update

[soft jasper]

whats the highest corrosion proc weapon

[desert trout]

porcupine

sure the hit chance per pellet is low but theres 20+ of them

[lilac bramble]

how's Dual Fang for the cat prince?

say if i already have painkiller, is it still worth it to use elemntal gemini?

do the elemental fusion procs stack on each other?

[desert trout]

no since any elemental proc applies everything

[fallen escarp]

Yes and no.

Yes because element share may let you trigger Combustion more often than you normally would with certain weapons, and may greatly speed up how fast you apply Miasma.

No because you still get every fusion effect on at least some of your shots, and it might be more worth it picking another gemini.

[soft jasper]

i mean chance

[desert trout]

oh mb

off top from memory prolly poison ghost

[soft jasper]

really?

its only 30%

well, 100% on 3rd hit

but doesnt count

[lilac bramble]

do u think these 2 goes well together then?

[soft jasper]

oh yeah

[lilac bramble]

I pair em for my endless journey run

[soft jasper]

aura of venom @desert trout

yknow what really gets me

why is there no lightning pistol (as in pistol, not kunai-type), no fire shotgun, and no corrosion sniper

[fallen escarp]

Thunder Storm was the lightning pistol.

[soft jasper]

painkiller doesnt do elemental advantage

[soft jasper]

well fuck

justice should be shotgun and have 3 projectiles BASE

[fallen escarp]

Also Sting is the corrosion sniper.

[soft jasper]

oh yeah

sting...

forgot it even exists

where fire shotgun at tho

[fallen escarp]

DLC 3, where you get to deploy literal firewalls to scorch through waves of enemies.

[soft jasper]

none of the geminis give a flat 1.5x dps multiplier at damage cap

[fallen escarp]

It's not a flat x1.5 DPS multiplier.

It's a x2 DPS multiplier against 1/3rd of the enemies.

[soft jasper]

with elemental share, it's 1.5x against 2/3rds

or all enemies if its fire

:P

[fallen escarp]

You get x0.75, x0.75 and x1.5 by default.

Element Share turns it into x0.75, x1.5 and x1.5.

[soft jasper]

not x2

[fallen escarp]

1/3rd of the health types take double damage.

[soft jasper]

true DMG is 10m cap

[soft jasper]

oh yeah fair

HOWEVER

just give enemies flesh n bones

and share fire with, say, a wild hunt

boom, you now have a flat x1.5dps against everything

[fallen escarp]

Or just use a fire Wild Hunt.

[soft jasper]

or that.

hm

does penetration bullet apply fire directly to health?

[soft jasper]

which would have horribly low proc chance though

also

[fallen escarp]

But horribly high projectile count.

[soft jasper]

if you have all 3 "x elemental conversion", does it apply all 3 to weapons?

[fallen escarp]

Doesn't matter if the chance is low if it happens many times.

[soft jasper]

you can just have a high elemental share chance and proc it 99% of the time

[fallen escarp]

Which wouldn't result in much better.

Combustion would be capped by its cooldown, and miasma would be capped by Painkiller's cooldown.

Manipulation exists.

[soft jasper]

the other geminis don't provide anything either

[fallen escarp]

Mag Share would result in more rootin tootin point n' shootin before you reload. Unless you're using Bloody Ammo or Advanced Depot.

[soft jasper]

mag share is worthless with advanced depot or bloody ammo, critX is worthless once you cap out, spores is only a 10m increase, and thats only 1 per shot even if you have a porcupine offhand, explosions ig has SOME use

1 shot mag is like... eh

any of the bonuses it provides are worthless

[soft jasper]

which almost everyone is using anyway

[fallen escarp]

So given that element share wouldn't do much for a fire wild hunt vs Flesh and Bones enemies, and given most other geminis are virtually worthless in damage anyway.

The only real benefit that one could achieve would be if you element shared with a corrosion/lightning weapon for Miasma stacks, Mag Share'd for better ammo recovery with Against the Flow, or Spore'd for slightly higher DPS.

[soft jasper]

or combustion stacks ofr that matter :p

[fallen escarp]

Combustion cooldown.

[soft jasper]

elemental share has more uses than other geminis, at least

[soft jasper]

it has a cd?

[fallen escarp]

Yes.

[soft jasper]

i thought it was just painkiller

[fallen escarp]

0.12s

[soft jasper]

aint shit, thats like about as fast as a wild hunt shoots anyway

[fallen escarp]

Effectively, you can only trigger Combustion 8.33 times per second at best, with rapid-fire weapons.

Keyword being "rapid-fire".

Not "shotgun".

[soft jasper]

yep

[fallen escarp]

You might fire 20+ pellets per shot, but only a maximum of 1 pellet will ever proc Combustion.

[soft jasper]

8.33 per second is fine enough

you can proc it once per what, two seconds? if you don't use eleshare

[fallen escarp]

Both cooldowns are per enemy.

Each enemy will have a 2s Painkiller cooldown, starting off cooldown.

[soft jasper]

yes, but all the other geminis have less use than even that

[fallen escarp]

So the moment you trigger an elemental effect on each enemy, it triggers Painkiller anyway.

[soft jasper]

spore is outmatched by a single scroll

critX has no use in endless

magshare, again, outmatched by a single scroll

explosions... screws over your AoE, but does have use i suppose in some cases

elemental share is an effective double dps against 1/3rd of enemies, or all enemies

[fallen escarp]

Unless you've already got the advantage against all enemies.

[soft jasper]

in which case you get to stack miasma or combustion

[fallen escarp]

In which case it at best makes it more reliable to start Painkiller working.

Or Miasma stacking.

[soft jasper]

which is quite a bit more utility than the other geminis

and some of the geminis, e.g. critX don't even appear on weapons that would benefit from them the most

like, melee with critX share would be stupid

at least up until endless

even if it normally has no chance of triggering crit

[primal dagger]

whats the difference between endless journey and boundless dream?

[proud shale]

#gunfire-faq message

[primal dagger]

ty

[split plinth]

dawg i saw the same screenshot for that gun days ago

[soft jasper]

yes, it was mine

problem?

[split plinth]

what character are you using for that run btw?

[soft jasper]

nona

the run is ended for now, but i have it saved

stage 700ish

[split plinth]

does the justice count as a pistol or a launcher?

[soft jasper]

launcher

i also have painkiller even though nona has no elemental synergies - because i could care less

[split plinth]

havent had any good luck getting a good endless run tbh

[soft jasper]

L

[split plinth]

the only good one i had recently was stage 143 but that was with a skill build so horrible scaling

[soft jasper]

that's boundless btw

not endless

i'm currently setting up a dog dual wild hunt run

[split plinth]

ah i just refer to looping modes as endless

[soft jasper]

for almost the highest dps in the game

[split plinth]

why not big hippo and wild hunt with mag share?

so wild hunt doesn't have recoil

[soft jasper]

... because a damagecapped inf ammo wild hunt has 3 billion ish dps

3.5 or so on monkey, don't remember

[split plinth]

huh

[soft jasper]

i can just use bloody ammo...

the unarguably superior ammo scroll

[soft jasper]

porcupine has 2 billion dps

[split plinth]

i should probably try experimenting more weapon combos

[soft jasper]

i just had an idea for a bomb shotgun for that justice run

[mellow cosmos]

i need a suggestion for endless mode.
specific is character.

[soft jasper]

dog

[mellow cosmos]

🤔 what makes it strong in endless

[little vortex]

Endless with atomic bomb

Do it 😄

[soft jasper]

dual wild hunt

stupidest shit ive seen, ever

[soft jasper]

eh

also, bloody ammo on dog can literally heal you

it's silly

[blazing summit]

why do the devs hate the bird 😭

[soft jasper]

what's wrong with bird

he's fine

[fallen escarp]

Exactly.

[blazing summit]

thats kind of my issue with that, its that hes just fine, it takes so much going right for him to do actually decent on higher levels

[fallen escarp]

Fine when compared to OP is pretty horrible.

[soft jasper]

just run him with a wild hunt, can't go wrong with that

[blazing summit]

i could do that and be like somewhat consistently decent but the issue is if i felt like doing any other bird build with like leap or cleave it is wildy inconsistent if you have even like slightly below average luck

also if i wanted to just run around with a wild hunt other characters could do the job similarily or just better

[soft jasper]

sad

i guess bird gets the short end of the stick

[fallen escarp]

He's the only one who gets nerfs that stick.

Such as removing his Armor Break builds unless you're on Reincarnation and take one specific high-risk blessing.

No, I don't care that Nova Shockwave exists.

It's a laughable ascension that requires multiple builds to be invested into to work.

[soft jasper]

dual wild hunt dog is some of the most broken shit i've saw

like

that is DISGUSTING

i love it

[mellow cosmos]

is it okay

[clear edge]

is there a specific way/character to easily get 80% damage resistance for X seconds for the seasonal quest?

[fallen escarp]

Easiest is:
• Pick Tiger or Fox.
• Play on Reincarnation and enable Lone Wolf. Start with Battle Scarred/Ultimate Gambler.
• Buy the other blessing you didn't pick.
• Reroll ascensions until you get Voltaic Aegis/Flame Talisman.
• Wait a bit/burn enemies.
• Wait 100s.

[clear edge]

[meager nest]

what are the best spiritual blessings for the monkey

[soft jasper]

Weapom Mastery

[meager nest]

ty

[primal dagger]

So is r1 generally considered to be easier than nightmare?

[fallen escarp]

Significantly easier.

[soft jasper]

it's nightmare with a million buffs

[fallen escarp]

*a million player buffs

[soft jasper]

and like

3 enemy buffs

[mellow cosmos]

is it okay

[cobalt dock]

that is ok

[mellow cosmos]

how about enhanced. is Agile any beter

[cobalt dock]

multiple is good

[soft jasper]

mediocre

[soft jasper]

multiple is good, but it's best on shotguns and such

[cobalt dock]

its good as long as the weapon can fire the bullets

[soft jasper]

eh on most smgs its only 0.21 to 0.3 projectiles

[cobalt dock]

thats the same amount %

i meant more like on Argus, Sunder, Double cal

[soft jasper]

a

[soft jasper]

same amount % but on shotguns is a much bigger dps increase unless i'm stupid

[cobalt dock]

it should be the same increase

its % after all

[soft jasper]

oh yeah i'm stupid

[cobalt dock]

i guess i see

as you can’t get inscriptions for proj on them

others can get +3 from 2 inscriptions

[soft jasper]

Agile is better for smgs

[cobalt dock]

fair

[soft jasper]

if its only a .21 to .3 projectile bonus on an smg i wouldnt bother

[cobalt dock]

fair

[soft jasper]

now on a Justice... minmaxxing projectiles is 🔥

even if the real benefit isn't that big, carpetbombing is awesome

[lilac bramble]

this is good right?

[cobalt dock]

peak

[lilac bramble]

also i dont understand, what happens if our elemental chance goes pass 100%? say if it is 110% corrosion chance aura of venom and the 3 gold incription on this dual fang?

[soft jasper]

nothing

[soft jasper]

i thought that it was my justice for a second what

but yes, very fucking good

does up to 8 projectiles

[lilac bramble]

okay sweet

[lilac bramble]

do u think i should go for other blue inscription on the dual fang?

[cobalt dock]

combustion is capped 0.12 cd

[lilac bramble]

so replace the blue incriptions with better ones right?

but what's the benefit of the dualo fang's elemental effect chance goinng to 400% tho from the gold inscription?

[cobalt dock]

its +400% of its base 10%

so you go to 50%

that with 4 proj is enough

[soft jasper]

also +500

[lilac bramble]

hmmmm yeah guess imma reroll this

[soft jasper]

dont

its good

[lilac bramble]

ouh

[lilac bramble]

hmmm but wont other blue or green yield better dps?

[soft jasper]

who fucking cares

its good.

[lilac bramble]

hahaahhhaha

[soft jasper]

if it aint broken don't fix

[lucid coral]

i just need flesh and bones game

then i can 1 shot greed

[soft jasper]

first off it's gluttony

second off, he has forced invincibility phases

[lucid coral]

oh i know i just want to deplete his shield

[soft jasper]

same tbh

but it aint oneshot

am tryna get my wild hunts to shred it

[fallen escarp]

Eh, technically you can one-shot Gluttony despite his invulnerability frames.

That is, assuming the Monke shenanigans still work.

[lucid coral]

well converting 20000 shield to hp getting 4000% increased skill damage should do it

[soft jasper]

4000 aint shit

i had 50k

my hardwood missiles didnt even hit 1m

[fallen escarp]

Enduring Caster counts both HP and Shield/Armor.

[lucid coral]

i dont have the enhanced version

[soft jasper]

no

even unenhanced does

[soft jasper]

its TOTAL hp

[lucid coral]

wouldnt hp be hp and not include shield

that translation could be worded better

[soft jasper]

total hp = HP + Shield
HP = HP
Shield = Shield
Armor = Armor

[fallen escarp]

*Total HP = HP + Shield/Armor

[soft jasper]

total max HP is max HP + max Shield/Armor