%1200 dmg increase
#Steam ( IF YOU CANT SEND MESSAGES USE STEAM 2 )
void quail
fallen escarp
Base DMG increase.
And +1000%.
And resets if you miss a Leap.
And the cooldown reset was random chance, not guaranteed reduction.
void quail
Did old version have the leap bug or was that added in?
fallen escarp
Don't know.
void quail
I didn't feel buggy and missing leaps on xbxo
fallen escarp
But what All or Nothing blessing replaced definitely wasn't stronger.
I called it diet Thunder & Glory.
void quail
Isnt thay all it did
fallen escarp
Yes.
And that's all it needed to do.
It made a big difference, but wasn't so powerful that it literally defined your build from the first room.
fringe goblet
Wich modifier do I need to use to get the Elites for Hellhunter? It doesn´t seem to be the normal R1 elites but I somehow got 8 allready
fallen escarp
Mysterious Jokul.
vivid crane
saw something about getting crab buffet easily, where is that
glad iris
Normal mode crab event or reincarnation lone wolf 4p
fringe goblet
is the mysterious jokul modifier just like an extra hard mode, making every enemy tanky, strong or just Act4 and the elites? And if yes by how much does everything get buffed?
Some elites like the shield guy with a defensive modifier just didn´t take any damage at all, they where as tanky as I say the first boss and more
fallen escarp
It's the closest attempt to an extra hard mode that we've got, yes.
Things it makes harder:
• Act 4 enemies have increased HP+Shield/Armor (and maybe damage).
• All elite enemies are enhanced, like normal enemies can be.
• At the end of act 2, 3 and 4 there will always be an Elite Gathering.
• The act 4 boss always has a challenge event plus some extra stuff specific to the boss.
Things it makes easier:
• Every peddler and phantom peddler gets +1 refresh.
• The guaranteed Elite Gatherings always drop a goblet, a legendary scroll and many weapons, plus any bonuses from killing more elites.
• You can get a 4th blessing when entering Hyperborean Jokul. If you already have 3, it replaces one.
• Challenge events give you 10 soul essence, if you're not on Reincarnation 8/9 yet.
void quail
@fallen escarp have u run into the problem with ur gun just randomly switching
fallen escarp
Only time that's ever happened is when I had a faulty mouse with a loose scroll wheel.
glad iris
Might be a controller issue.
broken brook
I don't see the animated avatar thing for Zi Xiao on Steam. I've been waiting since the character came out to get it.
It says it is out now, but I can only see 8 heros that arent them.
bleak quest
Finally, I can become owl on steam
cobalt dock
waxen owl
Lei Luo and Crown Prince being the most precious bby lookin
bleak quest
They taking mimirs
lucid nova
endless mode :0
fallen escarp
Plot twist: It's endless Reincarnation levels where Longling Tomb just gets more and more lethal while Painkiller becomes more and more essential to getting anywhere.
lucid nova
plot twist: it softlocks the game after the last boss
remote olive
https://clan.akamai.steamstatic.com/images//37691618/ef93c6788f6bf7eee751cf50dcd...
I love how Xi is the only one awake cause owls are nocturnals
or at least the only one who felt asleep attempting to cook
bleak quest
I love how Xi is the only one awake cause owls are nocturnals
I love that detail
somber solar
https://clan.akamai.steamstatic.com/images//37691618/ef93c6788f6bf7eee751cf50dcd...
Eeeee! They're soo cute~
Especially love Nona hugging her lil' chicken on one hand, and grabbing Xing's tail on the other ❤️
tropic mesa
Gonna be honest (but I'm probably judging too fast), it's kinda funny to me that one of the new weapons' secondary skill is just a red dot. lol
I mean, I'm not complaining 'cuz I like to be able to aim down sights, but it's still objectively funny to me to think it took so many years to add "aiming down sights" (if we exclude snipers, of course).
quaint karma
https://clan.akamai.steamstatic.com/images//37691618/ef93c6788f6bf7eee751cf50dcd...
Anyone know if there's a version of this image without the text? Would make a great wallpaper
high salmon
So upcoming update is a free one, not DLC?
quaint karma
Alright, thanks!
bleak quest
You can probably Photoshop it well enough to have it without the text
waxen owl
The monkey lower body part got cut by the "2" way too much xD
if ya photoshop it and planning to use it as wallpaper, ya def gonna see some lovely smudge on your screen 👌
bleak quest
Lol true
quaint karma
The colour is almost the same as Xing Zhe's. And the 2 shape could be made into his legs
It might work
vapid crag
yo
recently i found out that when i hold f on my teammate when hes knocked it doesnt react the same as it did a few yrs ago
is it tap now?
cuz that shit is slow
quasi arrow
recently i found out that when i hold f on my teammate when hes knocked it doesn...
You need to check your keyboard, it seems that the F key doesn't always work well. I recommend Razer with optical switches
Also, you can ignore your teammates, as then you won't have to revive them
As for the bug - yes, it is known
cobalt dock
i played today in duo, reviving only started when i let go of F, like i was using a wildhunt
idk when this happend but it feels bad
bleak quest
I just press f
wooden solstice
☠️
wooden solstice
I wonder why
yeah mean, we earn a lot less, thats why regional pricing was a thing to begin with
1500 pesos isnt pocket change
quasi arrow
yeah mean, we earn a lot less, thats why regional pricing was a thing to begin w...
We can't do anything about those who abuse the system. Steam can, but I'm even glad that they don't approach payments as paranoidly as, for example, Google
wooden solstice
We can't do anything about those who abuse the system. Steam can, but I'm even g...
ok you seem out of the loop, valve is converting these prices back to dollars, meaning starting monday i'll have to pay 20x the prices
i cannot afford that, and thats why i've given up on gunfire cause i just wont be able to keep the 100% if the keep making DLC thats inaccessible.
quasi arrow
ok you seem out of the loop, valve is converting these prices back to dollars, m...
I know what I'm talking about. People deliberately buy from countries with the lowest prices, so developers take measures to prevent this. I understand that you don't like it, and I don't like it either, even though I make a lot of money living in a country with the most developed economy on the planet - in Ukraine. Sarcasm, just in case.
So, once again, the issue is not with the developers but with those who buy from other countries, trying to bypass the system
lucid nova
1500 pesos isnt pocket change
bruh... @nimble flint told you to stop about this
lucid nova
@quasi arrow #off-topic message for more about this incase ur curious
quasi arrow
<@293704413795844096> https://discord.com/channels/656699542967812106/7176656612...
ah, i see
wooden solstice
I know what I'm talking about. People deliberately buy from countries with the l...
its not that i dont like it, this literally means the return to piracy
these crazy prices encourage pirating games
fallen escarp
Honestly, it's probably better that some people pay nothing by pirating (they couldn't reasonably afford it anyway), the devs get nothing, and everyone else goes out of their way to buy the proper game...
...instead of some jerkbag paying the devs almost nothing, then profits off the cheaper prices from all sorts of people buying the proper game from them instead of the devs.
Both are bad though.
wooden solstice
you are not keeping in mind economies of scale, the PC gaming market is huge here, arguebly larger than in the US (not the total gaming market ofc), so 4 copies that cover the cost of one is nowhere near as hard
nimble flint
Okay Stop it
Its a rampant problem not only Gunfire faces but other games at large. If you base gaming market on how much copies are sold , add two and two together and ask WHY so many sales come from those regions for games all around ?
This is something that has the weighted against : Either rampant missuse of local currency or a drop in quantity of sales.
And so far the majority of games in my library announced they will again adjust the prices after this steam change to cope for that exact problem
It sucks , yes but that is not to blame on the developers here or trying to keep bringing this up.
If there are massive discrepancies between singluar items it can be brought up but otherwise this topic is purely company related and not to be discussed further in this Discord.
If the need to bring this up is there people should refer to the support via mail or try to reach out to them directly on Twitter.
And this is nothing personal , its just this topic seems to just generate friction with discussions and those are things we dont need.
dire river
cat got googly eyes
tropic mesa
And this is nothing personal , its just this topic seems to just generate fricti...
To close the topic, I'll add my summary: blame the people who abused the devs trust and fairness for their own personal gain, ruining this for everyone.
And let's hope this is the last. 🙏
fallen escarp
No that's obviously a goose.
Primary skill is stealing all the shiny things from enemies.
Secondary skill is an annoying honk.
nimble flint
This is just Hanks rock double
lucid nova
I dont see anything in that image that hints to a new character
tropic mesa
Speaking of update, someone asked a question that I'm now wondering as well: what do they mean with "time limited mode"?
It's a mode with a time limit, or a mode that's not permanent?
nimble flint
I dont see anything in that image that hints to a new character
Tell us you are not a regular member for ages without telling
That is standard behaviour with all announcements
tropic mesa
Oh, is it?
Unless you're trolling. lol
Yeah, I'm not a regular either, I come back here occasionally. lol
red glacier
yeah most announcement images have teasers hidden
tropic mesa
In this case... well, I think the background itself might be a teaser. lol
The characters are in what appears to be a forest, but... there's no forest environment in the game yet.
The closest would be Duo Fjord, but only if we really stretch it and they currently are in the area's hinterland.
tropic mesa
He looks like a fusion between a mole and a pineapple. lol
nimble flint
tropic mesa
I'm inclined to believe that he'll leave eventually, when the roster expands and there won't be enough tables for everyone. lol
Or just move to the upper floor.
nimble flint
Hank will always be there
tropic mesa
He will buy the establishment when the owner retires.
cobalt dock
vapid crag
E
lofty bay
Hank my beloved
fallen escarp
#game-announcements message
Wow! They're adding Tiger Cannon v3.0!
wraith dome
🐉
fallen escarp
It'll be a combo of the Tiger Cannon and the Fire Dragon.
Shoots giant fireballs with massive explosion AoE at a rapid pace. Large magazine capacity of course.
Justice, but better. You can totally trust my word on this, I'm 100% not lying through my teeth.
somber solar
We trust you, cause someone already punched all your teeth out, thus you can't lie through your teeth :3
main forum
It'll be a combo of the Tiger Cannon and the Fire Dragon.
Shoots giant fireball...
TF2 flamethrower cannon thing
reef creek
Altanna sounding so fucking done with the updates is too funny to me lmao
void quail
@reef creek pretty sure hes just done with this game
reef creek
I believe they wouldn't be around if that was the case
nimble flint
We are due to reasons
bright quest
Dude it sucks that the update will come out ON THANKSGIVING why not the day before or after
Also new rocket launcher looks sick
quasi arrow
Dude it sucks that the update will come out ON THANKSGIVING why not the day befo...
On behalf of 96% of the world's population, I'll ask: What is Thanksgiving?
fallen escarp
Something about celebrating by eating turkey and cranberries.
bright quest
On behalf of 96% of the world's population, I'll ask: What is Thanksgiving?
ummm....... its a bit hard to explain without it sounding bad
quasi arrow
ummm....... its a bit hard to explain without it sounding bad
I don't know what could be bad about fried turkey
pearl garden
On behalf of 96% of the world's population, I'll ask: What is Thanksgiving?
Probably an even higher % considering not everyone in the US celebrates it either
It's one of the more divisive holidays we have here but, well, regardless of how morally questionable it all is I'll take the excuse to have a nicely cooked meal with my family.
Ham > Turkey tho
bright quest
Ham > Turkey tho
tbh i dont like either, i usually just grab the sides
pearl garden
I support that and agree the meat isn't the best part about the meal.
The update for Gunfire Reborn has me intrigued. Wonder if any of the current characters will get the Bird/Turtle treatment soon and I'll have to relearn them again 🥴
quasi arrow
The update for Gunfire Reborn has me intrigued. Wonder if any of the current cha...
wait, turtle was reworked not so long ago and it's more like monkey now(if you build crits)
pearl garden
Yeah I'm just curious if any other character will get major changes since two have gotten reworked.
The bird changes made me stop playing him. It's not that he's worse/less fun really I'm just stressed that he's different now and haven't bothered to learn his new version yet
quasi arrow
yea, same for bird
fallen escarp
Birb changes made him both better and worse, depending on your perspective.
quasi arrow
Birb changes made him both better and worse, depending on your perspective.
I think they should bring back leap elemental dmg
fallen escarp
Better because he's now got a more even split between weapon, leap and cleave builds, plus Leap builds got massively buffed with All or Nothing becoming a blessing and Cleave builds do more damage.
Worse because you can no longer reliably do Armor Break builds unless you take the OP as fuck All or Nothing blessing, and Cleave builds have less defensive power making you more vulnerable.
quasi arrow
so we can do something like combustion mecha drop
pearl garden
Weapon builds were my fav for him but if I'm reading correctly they changed Death Mark to only buff Cleave now which is a bummer since it worked nicely with Poisonous Ghost to buff the third slash w/Fierce Wings.
fallen escarp
Yeah I'm just curious if any other character will get major changes since two ha...
If I had to make a cynnical guess, Dog would be next and he would get various buffs to Ember Eruption, Twin Gunner and maybe a second method of increasing how often Dual-Wield is active...
But also make explosive weapon ascensions rely on Dual-Wield, and do something like buff Life Power while One Dog Army becomes total trash by proxy.
pearl garden
Dual Wield is now Triple Wield
Tbh I've never liked Dual Wield being durational. But I'm not sure I'm sold on any alternative I've thought on.
bleak quest
Go brrrr
void quail
Imo all dog needs for buff is inscriptions to work properly while duel weiding
Chancge one dog army to
Inscriptions of backpack weapon are passed to weapon 1
pearl garden
I'd argue that's extremely broken but so other blessings.
I just want a character that doesn't feel like an objectively worse version of himself when out of primary. If I reworked Dog I'd open up his buffs to work out of Dual Wield, perhaps in a different way, so that players can choose which state is best for their run/moment during the run.
fallen escarp
If it makes you feel any better, Dog's not alone with that feeling.
After the Turtle rework, Tidal Aspis is the key to literally all builds that aren't a diet version of something else.
Want to punch? Tidal Aspis then punch.
Want to charge? Tidal Aspis then charge.
Want to gun? Tidal Aspis then slam.
Want to actually gun? Enjoy ammo/DMG penalties, fool!
pearl garden
Seems one dimensional but probably just me not trying it for myself yet. I'm sure turtle is still fun.
fallen escarp
Fun? Yes. But he lost build possibilities.
Before you could do stuff with guns, because some ascensions actually benefited shooting the guns themselves.
But now he doesn't. One ascension even penalizes shooting guns instead of using the Aspis Slam to deal weapon damage.
Plus anything that relies on Fist Sensation stacks is weaker too, because Tidal Aspis lets you dash faster.
bitter schooner
Kinda wish there was a server browser and a way for the host to blacklist certain scrolls just for balance reasons. Then you could have more moments in multiplayer where it isn't one person using all the strongest scrolls and deleting everything before you can even blink.
fallen escarp
Would have to blacklist a lot more than scrolls to stop that.
lucid nova
Blacklist all the reincarnation stuff basicly
fallen escarp
More than that.
You'd have to blacklist scrolls, enhanced scrolls, spiritual blessings, weapons, inscriptions, interdependent fortune choices and even entire heroes.
lucid nova
Mostly reincarnation stuff what im seeing in ur list
bitter schooner
It would be something at the very least since i dont think we will get a balance update that would bring a lot of the strongest stuff in line with the middle of the pack stuff.
lucid nova
There wont be a balance update that will make the game hard, casual players will cry a river
fallen escarp
Mostly reincarnation stuff what im seeing in ur list
But not all of it.
Eye of Providence and Enhanced On the House are jokes for a reason.
lucid nova
But not all of it.
True, many broken weapon combos out there aswel
bleak quest
Gunfire Reborn is a nomination for the Labour of Love award for the Steam Awards
lucid nova
Deep rock galactic aswel though
bleak quest
I just voted for TMod loader
lucid nova
Tactical vote goes to deep rock galactic since this community isnt winning from the drg community even if everyone voted
lucid nova
I just voted for TMod loader
Fair vote
bleak quest
I voted for Terraria when it was for the 2022 Labour of Love so I just voted TMod because Terraria modder are insane and it's a game that I love
lucid nova
I voted terraria in 2022 aswel, greatest game on steam
bleak quest
I'll say one of the greatest games in the past decade
It has devs that actually listen to the community and gives it good "small" updates 
glad iris
Does attack speed affect Rof?
fallen escarp
Yes.
They're basically the same thing, just phrased differently.
For example, Melee Weapons sounds weird if you're boosting their "RoF".
pearl garden
Watch them release a sword gun and use RoF for it
fallen escarp
You mean Wheel Saw?
pearl garden
🤓 that's a shotgun
fallen escarp
Ahh, I see what you mean.
You want SWORDSPLOSION.
fallen escarp
Krieg is Turtle without an invincibility shield.
No wait, that's not right.
Krieg still has a reason to shoot guns.
pearl garden
bleak quest
Turtle
bleak quest
Does Copycat work in every build?
fallen escarp
Technically, yes.
bitter schooner
is the star ring bugged or just busted because everytime i use it it feels like it does 10x more damage than anything else or am i just imagining things
pearl garden
It's just good. Just did a run yesterday where I didn't even have to contract it to kill things.
pearl garden
Does Copycat work in every build?
Copycat is one of the stronger generic blessings but people sleep on it/don't care for it because there's other OP choices that are more tangible such as Overconsumption and Painkiller.
Copycat was already pretty good and then they made it stackable which was totally unnecessary but hey.
It works in any build because it buffs a variety of attributes, but it's also not one I typically start with. I'm happy to take it if I see it later tho.
glad iris
Imagine if they made it a permanent buff.
pearl garden
If you're going moderately fast through the zones it's pretty easy to keep the buffs up. Bosses get a little awkward but not really. By the final boss it's probably not Copycat that will carry you anyways.
pearl garden
Me and the boiz losing stacks
smoky crag
@fallen escarpWhen update :v
quasi arrow
<@280234817113686017>When update :v
in ~2-3 hours
bright quest
updates tmr right?
bleak quest
smoky crag
in ~2-3 hours
You lied
void quail
@smoky crag is itnnow?
mental mauve
I just need update, I hurt for the update, I cry for the update
runic wren
if this update could drop at midnight that would be great
red glacier
today's the day
runic wren
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
smoky crag
The update has been out for 5 minutes! Where are the patch notes?!
fallen escarp
Have you considered #game-announcements?
thorny solar
Dang, a new melee?
smoky crag
@fallen escarpATALANTA YOU LIFE SAVER
fallen escarp
Huh. Elite Mandrill Cavalry got a nerf.
Amusingly though, it's not a nerf that will help the multiplayer folks survive getting rushed and inferno'd.
smoky crag
@fallen escarpJoin our room we need 1
lunar vigil
proud shale
ah the new rocket launcher is railgunner
ofc it only has spores and element share
no fun allowed
runic wren
loving the revealer
upbeat drift
loving the revealer
revealer bunny 🔥🔥🔥🔥
glad iris
It's also locked to R9.
fallen escarp
It's also locked to R9.
Watch people complain about this.
Oh wait.
That didn't take long. Update notes have barely been out for 2 hours.
broken brook
I can't play the game today because it is late. But how fun is the new update?
Also is owl still good?
bleak quest
well I 100% the game again and set two new personal best with owl and overall damage, endless mode is pretty fun ngl
broken brook
From that alone imma just guess owl is still good. Also very nice :)
bleak quest
he is and thanks!
upbeat drift
he is and thanks!
i have a very funny bunny run rn lol
I got 80 million of that in 1 stage
1 vault later lol
wraith dome
Let's gooooooooo
smoky crag
Endless isnt balanced in multiplayer by a long shot but we had fun. Did 3 maps
Also the max copper you can have if 65k
Not sure why that is
bleak quest
I found a typo
red glacier
put it in #1060159100006178816
minor surge
its finally joever (big shoutout to lei luo with the busted woodpecker even before we started endless) 
fallen escarp
I found a typo
Already known.
void quail
@fallen escarp attack speed????
void quail
Welp first run wasnt too bad, had no movement speed and got boat 3 times and dragon 2 times i got glutony, also polar bear is bugged he doesnt have his copy cats once u hit endless, however everything still died once i looked at it so idk if they scale enough, most weapons wont work in endless u need higj rate of fire or huge mob clear
Must thing to grab is elite assassin, duel edge, extravagant consumption, blessing in Disguise.
remote olive
haven't played in ages, is R9 hard?
fallen escarp
If you use anything meta, no.
remote olive
what's the meta?
fallen escarp
Act 1 and maybe 2 are an absolute pain, just like R8. Act 3 and 4 are pushovers, also just like R8.
remote olive
so nothing entirely new just slighty harder?
also is my cute ball of angry fur meta? (that being lei luo)
fallen escarp
Well most enemies get upgrades to their attacks, with a few getting more defensive bonuses.
But the result is the same. Act 1/2 is pain, act 3/4 is nothing.
fallen escarp
also is my cute ball of angry fur meta? (that being lei luo)
He's got some meta builds, yes.
winged pebble
where do you see the recycle bonus??
vivid crane
its finally joever (big shoutout to lei luo with the busted woodpecker even befo...
oh god it's so possible to get 1 trillion o.o;
graceful phoenix
do you really like the new "endless" mode?
high salmon
back on top babyyyyyyyyyyyyy
fallen escarp
An amusing issue for #1060159100006178816.
Pole Monarch just goes "Yeah nah m8, I know how this goes. I'm just gonna lie down and give up now."
waxen owl
He eepy
waxen owl
Any fun ideas with Revealer so far?
Been thinking it might be fun with bnuy or tiger maybe
the vulnerable crit gun ideas is so fun
lucid nova
endless is broken af, 1200 stacks dual edge and 58 stacks elite assasin before the second loop
waxen owl
got some nice dual edge stack and elite assassin
no sign of stopping
power outage c':
lucid nova
@fallen escarp happend again
waxen owl
The way it shown like "U got banned for dealing impossible type of damage"
waxen owl
MMORPG type of icons
merry needle
im a bit fragile
KFHSDK WHAT
lucid nova
it got worse
merry needle
I BEAT THE ELITE WITH 0 SECONDS ON THE CLOCK
WAIT AHAHA im so stupid i failed it it just keeps going until theboss
how do you get it that low even
lucid nova
how do you get it that low even
3500 stacks dual edge
lucid nova
kinda, explosion dmg apperantly gets buffed by skill dmg
merry needle
i have like 1000% weapon dmg but idk if the concealed ammo only counts base weapon dmg or it includes weapon dmg modifiers idk if im wording this right LOL
merry needle
im sorry ijust looked up the chat what the frick
how what did you do
would revealer vulnerable cause monkey primary to crit
cold hedge
What is the max time limit for endless journey?
lucid nova
What is the max time limit for endless journey?
not capped i think, im at stage 70+ now and it takes like 20billion dmg to kill a elite
cold hedge
not capped i think, im at stage 70+ now and it takes like 20billion dmg to kill ...
Oh hmm I haven't played it yet but
"After the countdown ends, players can still challenge the current boss, but the portal to the next act will be permanently closed."
What countdown are they referring to here then?
cobalt dock
@lucid nova seems argus spirit has been capped btw
cobalt dock
doesn't make any sense, but funny
waxen owl
also does revealer vulnerable meter add dmg? or does it just crit chance?
lucid nova
havent messed around with that weapon yet
https://youtu.be/UvMoHtQhmIc some very painfull stage 75 gameplay
pearl garden
Good morning everyone. How are we feeling about the new stuff?
nimble flint
As expected
pearl garden
I'm away from my computer until tonight/tomorrow but I can already tell I'm gonna try dual wielding those saws
pearl garden
New launcher seems super fun too. Love also that the Revealer basically does what I suggested the Tiger Cannon should do a while ago.
nimble flint
Revealer is actually pretty nuts with it guaranteeing crits
The Dragon is just fun all around
Big laser with explosion
pearl garden
Endless being whatever is expected but maybe other people will take to it. They did say it's a little rough around the edges and will get updates so maybe it'll grow into something more acceptable.
waxen owl
valorant user be going nut about revealer
nimble flint
Fun run I had with it :
The blessing that gives 20% luckyshot when using weapon skill
Guess what you can do
pearl garden
ADS spam to instantly get max stacks
waxen owl
shake your weapon couple times and see the lucky shot % goes up xD
nimble flint
200% lucky shot and 100% guarantee on crits
waxen owl
does it really just crits meter for revealer tho?
oh unless u have the exclusive inscription i suppose
nimble flint
If you hit an enemy mutliple times with ADS it triggers the vulnerable state
then its always crit
The base weapon function
AND
it can get the scope inscriptions
on a rifle
lucid nova
Is 75 stages solo in endless hall of fame worthy?
nimble flint
We will have to discuss that internally
waxen owl
revealer definitely sounds fun tho with the guarantee crit thing
pearl garden
I'm assuming you can give an enemy vulnerable state and swap to another weapon to benefit from it yes?
waxen owl
ou
pearl garden
So that's a cute synergy with melee weapons, launchers, snipers, etc.
nimble flint
Doesnt last that long but a weapon swap to something else could be interesting
exactly
Or Swap to melee
pearl garden
Also makes the aura jars less annoying. And Gluttony.
waxen owl
is it client side debuff tho? or does it apply for other players too
pearl garden
Counterviolence lite
But I love weapon swap builds so it's chill. Elemental Weave and Fast Loader would be really fun with it.
nimble flint
That I dont know Milky
waxen owl
gotcha
nimble flint
Also
Transcendental Arsenal got a little bit more usefull now
Since the run doesnt end at the last act
pearl garden
Useful enough for me to not ignore it completely?
lucid nova
Useful enough for me to not ignore it completely?
Pretty usefull yea
waxen owl
a reason to pull my weapon out instead of making it as trophy display xDD
nimble flint
Before its flaw was that you cant get a weapon out of it before the run is over
lucid nova
Since you need a godroll weapon if you wanna make it past stage 50
Unless ur doing a skill build ofc
pearl garden
Guess it's a way to guarantee a Piercing Flame w/Exclusive lol
nimble flint
Yeah
lucid nova
Guess it's a way to guarantee a Piercing Flame w/Exclusive lol
Its the new dmg king
waxen owl
oh also does the vulnerable state got like obvious visual effect on enemies?
nimble flint
yes
lucid nova
it do be the carry
@pearl garden
nimble flint
they glow golden
waxen owl
whole body or outline?
nimble flint
full
lucid nova
<:XingZhe_Icon:1013709185311059998> 📈
I tried to tell everyone he is pretty bonkers
nimble flint
like crystal
pearl garden
it do be the carry
This is disgusting but I sorta wish it had the +50% against burning green text maybe instead of the Crit stacking
pearl garden
Idk at that point tho it's nitpicking what increases are "better." Obvoiusly that will still melt the game completely.
lucid nova
https://discord.com/channels/656699542967812106/1055550986292297838/117722158225...
He died so fast he skipped his animation and went to sleep instantly lol
nimble flint
He played dead
lucid nova
Idk at that point tho it's nitpicking what increases are "better." Obvoiusly tha...
I mean hitting 15mil or 15mil doesnt matter in the end
waxen owl
He played dead
he knew your dmg is bs
might as well take an early eepy
lucid nova
Went back to wintersleep real quick
nimble flint
Also hot take incoming
waxen owl
tired bully all day
had enough experience to see players' bs
might as well just calculate thing myself and take early rest
nimble flint
In tomb only one of the better clearing weapons you can start with
pearl garden
Me as an enemy when I see some silly goose 
huffing Elmer's glue and approaching me at mach speeds while yoinking out on of his hairs
lucid nova
In tomb only one of the better clearing weapons you can start with
Also the only place where its good overall
nimble flint
Yeah but I am trying Weapons Master start
so starting chest is exclusive only
And with that its an easy pick for Prism
waxen owl
In tomb only one of the better clearing weapons you can start with
I love you
but you're nowhere better than the 1st stage c':
lucid nova
so starting chest is exclusive only
Yeah then its one of the better, maybe thunderstorm would be a bit better
nimble flint
NOW
pearl garden
Ok but unironically if you're rolling Counterviolence or Deadly Counter the triple split exclusive for Prism becomes very similar to Fibber gameplay via Borderlands. Shoot the ground by their feet and profit.
nimble flint
What would people say if the Prism instead of randomly bouncing on walls it would bounce randomly after traveling a distance ?
waxen owl
can we just do it like ultrakill and start shooting our own prism projectile
pearl garden
What if it stopped midair after 3 meters and played Pink Floyd's entire discography
waxen owl
What would people say if the Prism instead of randomly bouncing on walls it woul...
people tryna snipe with prism and magically swoop other direction at 3m distance away from enemy's head c:::
tough pelican
streets saying new weapons?
lucid nova
Pretty cool weapons yeah
cobalt dock
5bil before monarch on bunny, this is new
lucid nova
Damn on bunny?! Crazy
cobalt dock
Star devourer baby
cobalt dock
with that 
tough pelican
so whats the special thing about the revealer besides being a really solid assault rifle
oh weakspot
lucid nova
It does dmg
finite tree
A lot of damage.
lucid nova
Yeah quite a decent bit indeed
tough pelican
a shockingly high amount id say
and its laser precise
seems like it would be terriifying on tiger
finite tree
Impressively so. I haven't really gotten more than one though. But the lucky shot inscription alone makes it worth it.
tough pelican
the exclusive inscription?
finite tree
I think so?
tough pelican
the one that auto weakspots when you hit a crit
finite tree
Orange ones are exclusive yes?
tough pelican
mhm
finite tree
Increase lucky shot by 10% for each shot for 3s and stacks up to 150%.
tough pelican
also this is a bit embarassing but ive never beat reincarnation level 8
so i dont have endless mode yet
im working on that rn tho
cat nadespam time
finite tree
Sound strategy. Which reminds me. I wanted to swing by to ask folks with far more experience. Is there some way to build properly, or is it really just a matter of RNG?
obsidian sun
Where's the best place to farm Catfish Warriors? I need that melee for Ao Bai
tough pelican
Sound strategy. Which reminds me. I wanted to swing by to ask folks with far mor...
just understand what trees are best for your character
and the playstyle you want
if you want nade cat go blue
if you want elemental weapons cat go for the elemental dominance you want first then the rest of the orange/red tree
finite tree
I do pay attention to these details. It just happens that sometimes game is loath to give much anything to support that so everything kind of falls flat.
tough pelican
yea that can suck sometimes
when that happens just go with the best of the draw you get
finite tree
I see. Not much more to it then.
tough pelican
but dont get too disheartened if you get a bum roll
there are no truly bad builds in this gamer due to how busted a lot of the shit in reincarnation modes are
painkiller alone makes every buiild at least baseline viable
painkiller + copycat makes every build super viable
finite tree
That it does. Just wondered since I run into the said issue with my buddy a lot. We pick what we wanna go for and we either get nothing, incredibly incomplete or only get it do anything towards end.
tough pelican
also did they nerf any skills?
finite tree
Doesn't seem like it according to notes. Just bug fixes, a couple scroll changes and... a new thing or two?
tropic mesa
Probably I'm gonna be frowned upon for this opinion, but I hope there will be more weapons with ADS in the future (not counting snipers).
I just like to be able to aim with more precision like in modern games.
somber solar
Question about the portal timer:
Does the timer pause when out of combat? (i.e. after clearing a room)
void quail
Yes
somber solar
Nice~
void quail
So clear room then backpeddle
somber solar
Also would like some context for this
Does this refer to some in-community highscore posting some Discord channel had before, that i wasn't aware of, or is this referring to ingame?
finite tree
I think it was some screenshots here on Discord.
Although it seems that is no longer something that will be done. But there was a time when people did see how high they'd go. Like billion damage and then some.
somber solar
And now that damage can get almost infinite, it's no longer a d||uck|| measuring contest.
I see~
void quail
I mean it kinda could be
lucid nova
https://i.imgur.com/EXUDZNP.png
so little?
afaik 75 stages is the highest someone has been
going for the 100 rn
cobalt dock
at 24 and dmg capping
lucid nova
i think i fucked up by putting it on lonewolf 4player
lucid nova
at 24 and dmg capping
go to 75
proud shale
Also would like some context for this
Does this refer to some in-community high...
in community , #hall-of-fame
somber solar
âhisee, thanks for the heads up~
lucid nova
@cobalt dock just realized i was in a foundry room at like stage 68 and the enemies also had 92% dr from the looping and i was still htting dmg cap lol
sooooo piercing flame is the official new dps king
nimble flint
Also would like some context for this
Does this refer to some in-community high...
This is Hall of Fame related
GAH
I hate this
cobalt dock
<@103189364984549376> just realized i was in a foundry room at like stage 68 and...
so why don't you have Monkey role? 🐒
lucid nova
I hate this
whar happend?
lucid nova
so why don't you have Monkey role? 🐒
one sec lol
lucid nova
spores 
nimble flint
then took the mission from above for changing the exclusive
and forgot it lowers the weapon level
lucid nova
yikers
nimble flint
so etching didnt give the gemini
lucid nova
LMAO
nimble flint
of course this happens in a room in the desert with 3 arsonists and an an elite arso spawn
AHAposdfihjÜÄDPIOHje
GAH
HUMBUG
lucid nova
a little fucky wucky
cobalt dock
at 30 and im gaining time, wtf do you do in this
lucid nova
at 30 and im gaining time, wtf do you do in this
wait till 60+
then enemies have 20billion hp
void quail
of course this happens in a room in the desert with 3 arsonists and an an elite ...
Sounds like psi
lucid nova
psi?
void quail
Player skill issue
somber solar
Potentially Severe Initialization
proud shale
the btd6 hero added in update 26.0
bright quest
which of the 3 new weapons are "meta" or are hey all meh
proud shale
cannon is wacky
bleak quest
havent tried the other one yet
it feels weird
proud shale
cannon is wacky
i got the exclusive that adds exclusives the more you chain the perfect reload
shenanigans ensued
cobalt dock
dmg cap at 45 with Fish and Bearpaw Stardevourer
cobalt dock
btw, 
's cannons hp does not scale, so you end up doing phase changing at 99.99%,99,98%,25% lol
cobalt dock
lucid nova
<@280234817113686017> happend again
@cobalt dock didnt care enough to wait for him to do the succcc
cobalt dock
still gotta wait after phase changing him while he sucks the first time
obsidian sun
Does Spiritual Assault not count to unlock this? I'm sure I've killed at least some Catfish Warriors up close
vivid crane
No, spiritual assault doesn't count. I checked it for myself
glad iris
"Weapons, Occult Scrolls, and Achievements cannot be unlocked in Spiritual Assault. Some Occult Scrolls, Ascensions, and Talents will be changed as well in Spiritual Assault. You could check it out at the preparation phase."
obsidian sun
I didn't see that
glad iris
r1 lone wolf 4p
cobalt dock
there is no way that the enemy DR from Endless actually works
no way im DMG capping with a Star devourer through FishnBearpaw / Penbullet at DR 99.9%
lucid nova
i think its more a health multiplier
lucid nova
no way im DMG capping with a Star devourer through FishnBearpaw / Penbullet at D...
what stage u at
lucid nova
damn i gotta get to 100
lucid nova
where the dmg cap at
cobalt dock
no clue what happend that game then
lucid nova
here is the real question, how did you loose soul essence
cobalt dock
star devourer did 27% of my dmg
nimble flint
REROLLS
cobalt dock
gave me alot of enhanced rerolls
cobalt dock
its op now
nimble flint
EOP MVP
cobalt dock
🙏 🙏
lucid nova
EOP is S tier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
muted flare
Got stuck at 24 in the first attempt, almost went a bit futher
lucid nova
watch them nerf eop tmr
nimble flint
but how ???
This is only a scaling problem due to infinite
lucid nova
!!!!!!!!!!! this is OP aswel since it increases the max amount of ascensions you can have
you can reroll the ones you dont like later anyways
nimble flint
So many hidden gems once you go infinite
muted flare
If you upgrade it to the enchanted version after using all chances, do you get 5 more chances to select or just two more?
nimble flint
nope
lucid nova
If you upgrade it to the enchanted version after using all chances, do you get 5...
2 more
nimble flint
Just 2 more
muted flare
Shame
nimble flint
Had we tested how it interacts once the scroll is sold/given away at a chest ?
That should give full if you get the scroll again in a run
lucid nova
LMAO i can give it away and get it back later, ultra OP
finite tree
Spiritual blessings cannot be staccked or can they?
Nevermind. I might've been a goober and not read in this case.
neat yoke
why is everything misspelled this patch
nimble flint
because they changed some scroll descriptions to be unified ( Dmg Resistance)
Re being directly next to Ew
and there is already a collection thread in #1060159100006178816
lucid verge
valorant user be going nut about revealer
The first time I picked it up I was like "This seems like it would be a Phantom skin in Valorant"
waxen owl
I don't play valorant so I don't know what is that xDDDD
lucid verge
I'm so accustomed to not ADSing in Gunfire that I forgot I even could most of the time with the Revealer
barren wharf
Each update certainly makes cat even more mundane
lucid nova
@void quail i got max extrav (semi legit) funny bug i found
@cobalt dock the funny bug^
i think it has to do something with enhanced lucky roulette
cobalt dock
funny
lucid nova
fuck i got hit by a wall of text
lofty bay
reading jumpscare
proud shale
average video game player's biggest weakness
lucid nova
@nimble flint it got worse
btw enhanced lucky roulette is bugged af
it gives 65k every stage
nimble flint
This scroll will never be fixed...
remote olive
what it's suppouse to do either way? I never understood it
glad iris
My biggest gripe is that you still can't sell scrolls directly from the green chests.
lucid nova
My biggest gripe is that you still can't sell scrolls directly from the green ch...
FAX i hate that
this in endless is kinda cracked
nimble flint
what it's suppouse to do either way? I never understood it
In theory super simple
Take your Copper count , change the highest ( lowest) first digit of it to 1 (9) and then randomise the order of them all
So
16857 copper
With normal roulette that turns into
16157
And then all those numbers get mixed
So you could in theory end up with 51617 copper
Or 11567
But the scroll has been ultra buggy all around
rough echo
new guns any good?
lucid nova
yes.
hybrid gust
new guns any good?
the new AR feels amazing
lucid nova
@cobalt dock i found out how to bypass the dmg cap, stuff that does true dmg like giant slayer bypass the dmg cap
rough echo
the new AR feels amazing
idk why but it just feels awful for me damage wise
lucid nova
@hybrid gust woops internet died
obsidian sun
new guns any good?
I love the new melee. Ao Bai can dual-wield
high salmon
LMAO i can give it away and get it back later, ultra OP
OP in a good way, you have to get pretty lucky or already have a broken run for that
high salmon
I love the new melee. Ao Bai can dual-wield
finally
they need to embrace the goofy and let ao bai dual wield everything
including bows. like just have extra hands come in to wield them
nimble flint
This is just holding though
So it makes sense
Ao Bai is all about that upper arm strength
high salmon
I really wish the swords could be dual wielded
nimble flint
Issue is they are technically two hand but more importantly the animations would be a mess
high salmon
yeah ao bai would need character specific animations but I really think it'd be worthwhile
nimble flint
and if you hadnt noticed the models are not mirrored
but copied ( which I put as feedback so often I cant count anymore)
high salmon
yeah big hippo is a good example of that
high salmon
yeah the gloves are the funniest one
I feel like dragon breath needs a damage buff or something
feels like it's not doing enough damage to be worth using over a tiger cannon although that could just be me doing a starter run on bird tbh
I really adore the fantasy behind it though
feels like fallout's tesla cannon
obsidian sun
I didn't really get the point of the timing of the dragon breath. Tooltip says it penetrates?
high salmon
I didn't really get the point of the timing of the dragon breath. Tooltip says i...
if you do the timing mini game then you also get to fire it faster. if you miss or ignore it, it overheats and has to cooldown for longer before you can charge
obsidian sun
Feels like they just wanted a gimmick. The weapon didn't feel all that strong
high salmon
strongly recommend Fierce Wings with it if you run bird
yeah I'm trying to invest in it and it's not as rewarding as I think it should be
obsidian sun
I wish it could CRIT since it shoots like a laser
high salmon
yeah it really feels like it deserves to be a crit launcher
bump the mult to 2x as well
you can do a cleave though as the meter goes, there's a small animation that plays after you hit the timing on it so you can cleave before during or after the minigame
obsidian sun
It would be fun to see a CRIT launcher lei Luo build
obsidian sun
I forgot we had one that crits already
high salmon
you can run lei luo and jump kinda over your target and shoot shrieker into their head. it'll hit the crit for the initial damage, overpenetrate and then hit the ground underneath them for even more damage
it's really strong for that
should clarify that I stick to elite, so it's not game breaking in R9 or anything
fallen escarp
Thunder Storm also crits.
obsidian sun
should clarify that I stick to elite, so it's not game breaking in R9 or anythin...
Nothing is more game breaking than chimken
fallen escarp
It doesn't intentionally aim to do it, but it can.
high salmon
is thunder storm a launcher now?
fallen escarp
Yes.
obsidian sun
Yeah it got reworked
high salmon
yeah I knew it got reworked in some fashion wasn't sure if they changed it's class
fallen escarp
They saw that literally no one was using its primary fire which was slower, weaker and less satisfying than Foundry.
So just turned it into thunder ball gun.
high salmon
oh
I exclusively used it for the primary fire
I never used the alt fire lol
sorta as a lightning scorching rounds
high crit hit scan pistol with inherent piercing, was nice.
fallen escarp
Thunder Storm's primary hasn't pierced for a long time.
That's part of the reason it sucked.
The devs one day decided to remove its piercing ability for no reason, despite that being pretty much the only thing it had over Foundry.
fossil belfry
We did it
bleak quest
So I like endless mode
But it still feels unbalanced
Twords the enemies at least
Meta builds just decimate everything in endless
fallen escarp
No surprise there.
bleak quest
I think this is an overlook 
bleak quest
Mhmm
fallen escarp
And staring everyone in the face, not hidden in any way.
If they had balance and fairness towards enemies on the mind, they would've dealt with it long ago.
bleak quest
Absolutely, making a game harder doesn't mean you just make the enemies a bullet sponge, which is what endless mode kinda is if you're just running it normally
And R9
fallen escarp
R9 doesn't even increase enemy HP, believe it or not.
bleak quest
It doesn't, same as R8 right?
fallen escarp
Same as R7+8.
bleak quest
Some of the modifications in the first act is just stupid
fallen escarp
Only changes are more offensive abilities, and some extremely powerful shutdown type bonuses for enemies with shields.
reef creek
All i dislike about act 1 is that it forces some kind of bullshit play from me
Mostly overconsumption
Can't even gamble on 20% scrolls
fallen escarp
Buffing enemies equally while making players scale better and better results in a hard start and easy end.
Who would'a thunk it?
bleak quest
What I find fun is going back to act 1 and shredding everything
Gives you a lot of time saves
bleak quest
The thunder elites literally melt so much time
Yeah, it's pretty annoying tbh
high salmon
For endless to work you’d need to fundamentally rework the game
Scrolls would have to be more common, significantly weaker but stackable. Basically risk of rain
fallen escarp
Would be funny to see how they make the absolute scrolls stackable.
Stuff like Evil-Banishing Talisman's immunity to cursed scrolls, or Take it All's access to all red chest options but all scrolls can't be discarded.
proud shale
Probably something like pocket icbm in ror2
Gives the + 2 missiles upfront then 50% extra missile damage for every stack after the first
fallen escarp
Ah yes, Evil-Banishing Talisman will give you immunity to cursed scrolls the first time, then 25% more immunity for every stack after the first.
9 stacks and we could be 300% immune to cursed scrolls.
bitter schooner
if R9 difficulty felt as challenging as longling tomb for every zone this game would be an easy 10/10 for me
nimble flint
okay
Double Dragon Breath is INSANE fun
Shoulder mounted double orbital laser strike
Both fire at the same time and only one reload bar
bleak quest
So you don't have to time both of the reloads?
bleak quest
That makes everything so easy
nimble flint
THOUGH
No Reload speed increase or charge speed increase
Reload speed increases the size of the bar towards the back
tough pelican
Probably I'm gonna be frowned upon for this opinion, but I hope there will be mo...
yea i agree
ADS rules
the dragon breath is fucking insane
dragon breath mecha crash nona is so much fun
fallen escarp
Lol.
restive torrent
Does Counterviolence cause crit hits to have a 50% chance of happening?
Or is guaranteed crits still guarenteed with it?
fallen escarp
Non-crits have a 50% chance to become crits.
restive torrent
what kinda build is that @.@
cobalt dock
Enemies have 102% dr there lol
imagine lol
lucid nova
what kinda build is that @.@
Piercing flame monkey
Ill send some clips soon, not at home atm
My highest hit was 670mil in one hit @cobalt dock
cobalt dock
slapp
restive torrent
I keep shooting, but I keep getting '99999999' damage, no higher
Is there a damage cap?
fallen escarp
Yes.
lucid nova
It is when you pair it up with monkey
Onehits stuff 100+ stages in
I ended the run 105 stages in because i was gaining time more than i was loosing. And the dr was at max already
remote olive
so I got a question, I didn't ask this in time but what does Zi xiao means? and nona, if she has a translation to anything
I refer to the name itself
restive torrent
I got to stage 31
cobalt dock
Ewsistance is great
cold hedge
If I'm not getting purple or red lucky shots is normal coin shot better than enhanced?
cold hedge
Right ok cheers
cobalt dock
see coin shot, pick coin shot
lucid nova
^^^
cold hedge
see coin shot, pick coin shot
I had coin shot, and I was presented with the enhanced version.
Just wasn't sure....maths and stuff
rotund plaza
I enjoy this
nimble flint
Yes
Another joins the Dragons Breath Shoulder Weapons System
Mecha Ao Bai
Armored Core Cross over when ?
remote marsh
li is still silly
tropic mesa
I'd be more for a Cult of the Lamb crossover.
bleak quest
Would be interestins
pearl bridge
Counterviolence or first strike on bunny?
nimble flint
Thats a weapon not a character question...
rain linden
new guns (exciting)
2 of the weapon passives cant be used in ao bai dual wield
pearl bridge
Thats a weapon not a character question...
Bunny normally synergizes best with high magazine high firerate weapons does she not?
nimble flint
You want to hit enemies as much as possible as fast as possible
Her telent increases mag size and reduces reload
Her secondary is triggered by number of hits
And some of her ascensions do stuff on hit
So Injectors , SMG and rifle work with her better
Shotguns can also work due to number of hits
Illusion for example the hybrid for her
And her primary cares about ammo consumed not fired
So technically the Storm Chaser works for her as well
pearl bridge
Yes, she is by far my most played character
nimble flint
despite being a melee weapon
pearl bridge
Then there is scalpel
But my point is, is that the weapons that typically consume ammo very fast typically have a large magazine as well
nimble flint
You can get way more
cobalt dock
they changed it to be only on discarded scrolls and not goblets?
nimble flint
Goblets should be only after the first loop
pearl bridge
Ewsistance lol
proud fable
Ewsistance lol
this is real?
pearl bridge
Yes
proud fable
lol
pearl bridge
I thought I was dyslexic the first time
proud fable
They should just keep it there for the funni
I too would put Ewsistence for a description.
pearl bridge
Ewstistance - Damage resistance against gross damage sources
proud fable
heh
solemn epoch
First try in the new mode. Not sure how much giving them Dual Edge fucked me over
cobalt dock
Goblets should be only after the first loop
my session got bugged from quiting and re-entering at a campfire between patches
now its fine
nimble flint
It is
void quail
Does flower chain proc blade of bloom?
Or do u need bloom enthu to proc flower chain to proc blade of bloom
pearl garden
Blade of Bloom only procs on manual secondary casts--at least that's what I thought.
tough pelican
storm chaser deft hands is the most fun you can have with your pants on
inland glade
So, about only being able to carry 60 non-cursed scrolls during Endless Journey
What happens if you have more than that?
I frequently give every scroll my teammate doesn't already have or wouldn't be hindered by, to them when I'm playing Nona because Pair of Us literally autowins the game by default
And by the end of runs my ally usually has around 70.
bleak quest
https://i.imgur.com/V57G4Jz.png
tough pelican
so you you still only get a single essence revive on endless mode
fallen escarp
so you you still only get a single essence revive on endless mode
Apparently the game isn't easy enough yet.
bleak quest
so you you still only get a single essence revive on endless mode
not that it really matters if you have two good players on an endless run
you just shred everything 70+stages in
tough pelican
hmm
makes sense
i wonder how strong revealer + hawkeye sight is
and is the ads considered a zoom
okay first thing is revealer and hawkeye sight is disgusting
and ads is not a zoom
tough pelican
thats so strange
well gunfire reborn cant be a borderlands like without broken jank
pale tulip
forest basin
I like the Endless Journey continues the push to make damage numbers absolutely meaningless
lucid nova
She said plenty of negative stuff about the game lol
Idk if what gender he/she is, i assume she since she has a female pfp
fallen escarp
Yep.
lucid nova
Good to know
fallen escarp
As for the negative review thing... ehhh... I guess I'll allow it. Not like steam-based things don't get posted here.
jaunty harbor
lucid nova
My view on the game is still positive since the game is crisp and fun for atleast a few hundred hrs wich is worth those few $
jaunty harbor
I figured its more effecient to just
post a SS of that
then compile my thoughts a second time
lucid nova
Bit harsh since its fun for the first few hundreds of hrs wich most ppl dont reach
jaunty harbor
My first few hundred hours were when the game was balanced, a fundementally different time to play
I can only rate the game based off the latter few hundred hours
lucid nova
I'd say the game is a 7/10 since devs that give good free updates are rare and everything feels crisp. The 3pts off is balance
jaunty harbor
Oh, I just expect free updates and all that. if a game feels stingy, I do not play it in the first place
fallen escarp
I'd give the game an 8/10.
There is plenty of good variety when you start the game. The whole "fuck balance and anything to do with it" only really exposes itself to people who play longer than like, 100 hours.
lucid nova
Oh, I just expect free updates and all that. if a game feels stingy, I do not pl...
Then dont play any game released after 2020
fallen escarp
In my Steam review it's positive, but warns people about long-time playing.
lucid nova
I might update my review soon
jaunty harbor
yea I wish they did a progression reset
when they finally moved to the current system
I cannot experience the new player experience as it is currently
So I just ignore it
pearl garden
The game was more exciting for me when I was bad at it lol
Just part of the fun of learning how stuff works. When you know too much things can get dry. Miss the feeling of simply being excited to try a weapon out just because it looked cool/fun.
void quail
@cobalt dock isk how u scaled bunny so hard her blades get capped at 20k
somber solar
My personal opinion about balance in a PvE game:
To me, there's no concept of balance, as long as i'm on the higher edge of the scale. I like feeling powerful and unstoppable. It makes me feel like a god. If i get bored of the powerfulness, i do one of the followings ingame:
- Switch character
- Switch gamemode/difficulty
- Add a self-imposed challange
And if all those fail to continue entertaining me, i'll just put the game down. And if i miss it, i'll relaunch it a few whatever time later.
And if the issue is not the PvE aspect, but rather the choice of tools you have, that is better than the other, that's where the 'switch' concept comes in, where you want to try different stuff, and if it's an under-performer, count it as a challenge. And if a tool is horribly underperforming, you'll just ask for a buff. ||(like frenzied shark)||
tl;dr, i'm not worried about game balance.
queen plover
Very disappointed to learn that the DLC key that I won here in a raffle has expired, and all of my hero progress went with it. Misleading. Nobody said it would expire and now two heroes are back at zero. 👎
fallen escarp
The DLC key expiring is something that should go in #1060159100006178816, because it shouldn't have expired as far as I know.
As for the heroes themselves, they're actually still at the same state you left them. You just can't access them.
queen plover
I purchased it myself to see if the progress was restored and it was not.
fallen escarp
Odd.
split plinth
endless was nice
still not my best run tbh but damn the endless difficulty spike is real
desert is hard but fjord is harder
elites there were super tanky
tough pelican
is this a safe space
i like the fire dragon
i know everyone says its overrated or whatever
but its a flamethrower
is the angelic aura like objectively superior in every way
maybe
is it cooler though
glad iris
It sounds cooler on a subwoofer.
tough pelican
i thought it was
every tiime i talk about it in this other group they say just use the angelic aura 4head
fallen escarp
People rarely sing praise about it here.
glad iris
I stopped using Fire Dragon ever since they made stability affect it.
tough pelican
what are the guns everyone goes gaga about here
median crater
@vale axle potentially i was the one who just played an endless run with you
proud shale
what are the guns everyone goes gaga about here
argus, illusion, rainbow, angelic aura, brick, star ring, radioactive gauntlet
to name a few
skills
honestly just skills
lmao
glad iris
Mainly Revealer atm
queen plover
Odd.
I was able to correct it with a restart and verifying game files. Got my levels back but still not cool that a key was handed out that expired. Life goes on just wanted to say something. Love the game, as always.
tough pelican
understandable list
i bet there are a few dog brick players here
yall seem cultured
queen plover
idk about that but nobody here is eating lunchables, I hope.
fallen escarp
They probably do.
red glacier
AND THEY JUST GAVE ME DEFT HANDS
who are they
split plinth
RnGesus
fallen escarp
A god of the outer realms.
split plinth
clearly taking all of my rng and giving it to that man
fallen escarp
Their domain reigns over order and chaos, fused together to create ever-changing permutations, but never anything beyond itself.
somber solar
btw, i would love to see how the new teammate bots work in Multiplayer, but in order to test them out, i need to ask for someone to leave a lobby midgame, and don't wanna ask them that, or don't wanna ask for volunteers at lfg atm :'c
proud fable
I know this conversation was hours ago. But as a guy who has played and owned the game for 3 months (Got the game Sept 4) I'd say I'd give it a good 8/10. I never grow tired despite how hard or odd the balance in the game gets. It does get dull, but for me personally, I just find it fun rather than nauseating. But i did find a few things hard to really go forward with, like maybe damage and sometimes somethings needing a little more of a push to balance a few things out. Overall a great game when people are starting out. And its still pretty good even with the experience.
I accidentally replied twice, wth ._.
glad iris
highest I've seen so far is 1t
median crater
i mean stage, not dmg
glad iris
100+
proud fable
only stage 37 <:PepeHands:649201141275557892>
Stage!?
glad iris
Endless
proud fable
No wonder why the dmg is high
proud fable
Endless
Ah, I see.
I'm not there yet so I grew slightly surprised since I was half-expecting it.
vivid crane
Highest I've gone was stage 12
How are you able to get over the damage resistances after like second loop stage 2
fallen escarp
By doing more damage.
cobalt dock
lucid nova
My top stage is 105 but i could have gone forever since my timer was going up faster than it was doing down
And enemies cant get more dr than 102% lol
remote olive
exactly how does Work Rest Balance work with Li? her primary never goes on cd technically, does it do anything the bonus to her?
pearl bridge
Skill freak or thorny bloom?
nimble flint
exactly how does Work Rest Balance work with Li? her primary never goes on cd te...
Li doesnt have a CD period
She has an active ability that uses a charge meter
the ability itself can be used whenever
it has no CD or down time
unlike all other abilities
remote olive
soooooooooo that mission is useless on her?