What is a heavy weapon with corrosion I can use then
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fallen escarp
No heavy corrosion weapon exists. Only Big Hippo, Tiger Cannon, Bone Dragon, Shrieker and Deafening Mortar are the super heavy -10% movement speed weapons, and they're all non-elemental.
Closest you get is something like Porcupine.
vapid crag
They might mean large ammo
marble ruin
I mean orange ammo. Spanish translation is VERY broken in that regard
vapid crag
Special ammo then
fallen escarp
Heh, you're not gonna believe this.
There are also no corrosion weapons that use special ammo either!
vapid crag
If you have good enough ammo mitigation, there's no reason you can't use light ammo for both slots
marble ruin
So normal ammo
fallen escarp
Normal ammo you have Dual Fang (which is Fire half the time) and Radioactive Gauntlet.
vapid crag
A lot of the best corrosion weapons are large (blue) ammo tho. If you can go infinite ammo on an aura of venom, which usually takes specific scrolls, mind, tao really pops off with that thing for example
(The pistol that fires it's whole mag on a right click, not sure if weapons have the same names in spanish)
marble ruin
Names are inconsitent
vapid crag
Also, I remember you complaining about dying to elites earlier - tao is pretty squishy outside of certain set ups, pretty glass cannon-y
So that's kind of just what tao is like lmao
She has some ascensions that help tho
But usually tao's defense is killing things faster
atomic crescent
so ive just come back to the game after a while of not playing it (last time i played it, water hedgehog turtle just came out). What is spiritual assault and why is it having me play tetris in th elobby before beginning?
fallen escarp
Spiritual Assault is a game mode that has constant streams of enemies attack you for long periods of time, with leveling up for rewards and periodic events.
You play tetris to choose what bonuses you get, because most of your talents except hero talents are disabled.
vital void
are there any just obnoxious builds similar to atomic bomb?
vapid crag
Any character with spores
Especially tao
But really anyone
Qing Yan got mega buffed
Pretty much all of Li's builds lol
Missile spam nona
Ig "obnoxious" is subjective and I'm not sure what your criteria is
Imo the most obnoxious thing about atomic is just how obviously and lazily it's OP
"Nades are bad? Fuck it, make the player piss a solid stream of 32 grenades that go everywhere and blinds everyone. Also slap a giant damage multiplier on it for no reason"
Like it feels like using cheat engine, not just cuz of the damage but just the over the top-ness
vital void
how does a tao spore build work?
fallen escarp
- Get an Argus, Wild Hunt or Hell. Upgrade it constantly.
- Get a Rainbow or Radioactive Gauntlet.
- Etch and/or reforge a gemini until both have the spore gemini.
- Use the Rainbow/Radioactive Gauntlet.
- Melt everything the beam autolocks onto.
Then just add Tao-specific bonuses like Warlike Blade and Ammo Extractor.
vital void
alr ima try it
zinc frigate
Dormant bullet totally affects swords, right?
fallen escarp
It does, but still requires the same thing as guns.
zinc frigate
Ah, gotcha. I dunno how good the alt fire on swords are, if it's worth keeping it on 0 ammo, you know?
fallen escarp
Fire Tower: Doesn't matter, because you ain't keeping the magazine below 100% anyway.
Flowing Light: Weapon skill is pretty much the only reason you'd use it.
Poisonous Ghost: Weapon skill doesn't even use ammo, but not having ammo causes your primary fire to suck.
zinc frigate
Damn, I took Dormant bullet and I'm using Flowing Light, lmao
Fair enough, good to know. Thanks for the write-up 👍
zinc frigate
Fire Tower: Doesn't matter, because you ain't keeping the magazine below 100% an...
Well, I've got dormant bullet + elemental cube, so I'll just keep it on lightning and roll with my m1, haha. What makes the weapon skill so good that you'd only use the weapon for it?
fallen escarp
Primary fire you can only swing 2 or 3 times in the time you charge up and hit 5 times with the weapon skill.
Plus primary fire only staggers on the second hit which might get you hit at such close range, while the weapon skill always staggers.
Only downside the weapon skill has is it slows you down while charging, but if you close the distance first it's not a problem.
marble ruin
Is there a quality of life feature to remove shield enemies from solo play
fallen escarp
Yes, it's called piercing or AoE attacks. That removes them quite nicely.
All skills that deal damage also pierce, so you can't even complain it's not guaranteed.
marble ruin
Why is every of your advices "get this thing you quite possibly may not have"
Ok so consider this
The elite horsehead is unkillable
He takes virtually no damage and it's exhaustingly boring
fallen escarp
Leave the vault, quit the run, use a proper way to kill him, or suck it up and deal with it.
If you don't come prepared with equipment or knowledge, expect trouble.
Oh and don't think multiplayer fixes this fight either.
Elite Horseheads increases the number of super painful crossbowmen that he summons with more players, and they're the real threat.
marble ruin
At least borderlands added tiny little holes to shields to actually be able to fight them
zinc frigate
Fire Tower: Doesn't matter, because you ain't keeping the magazine below 100% an...
So I'm guessing by this, dorman ammo is probably generally terrible on swords, right? lol
fallen escarp
So I'm guessing by this, dorman ammo is probably generally terrible on swords, r...
Most likely, yeah.
Unless you've got like... Advanced Depot.
zinc frigate
Ah, good thinkin
vital void
Does anyone know what Li build would get me a bunch of damage in multiplayer? I tried doing meteor builds but they don’t do it for me
fallen escarp
Spiritual Flame builds.
visual osprey
Spiritual Flame is fun
I really prefer running a gun build with Energy Draining though
vital void
I’ll try both tomorrow
I play with my friends and they just tower over me in damage
They play owl and nona or whatever her name is
The red panda
fallen escarp
You might not get a chance to beat a good Owl, even with Spiritual Flame.
visual osprey
That's also true
fallen escarp
Dozens of tracking cards just by looking at enemies on the other side of the map is tough to beat.
zinc frigate
After trying Elemental Share gemini on the Flowing Light and MagShare, I can definitely say I liked MagShare a lot more.
Maybe Elemental Share is better when you get the right scrolls like Bloody Ammo so you don't have to reload, but I didn't get any of those, so the MagShare with a Big Hippo that had 200+ mag was very nice, haha
fallen escarp
Element Share is best when you can either inflict Combustion, or inflict Miasma really fast.
Flowing Light does neither of those.
Manipulation... exists, I suppose. It's alright for melee, but only when you can't kill normal enemies in a quick manner.
Naturally, completely useless against elites and bosses, where melee is risky at best.
zinc frigate
Is that Occult Maestro talent that increases the base damage of your occult scrolls by 100%/200%/300% secretly good and I'm just not thinking of the implications properly?
fallen escarp
Nah, it's pretty bad.
zinc frigate
Hahaha, okay, yea, I thought so
fallen escarp
It only affects scrolls that deal damage on their own, with some big exceptions.
zinc frigate
Yea, if it modified stuff that increased your base damage like Merciless Storm it'd be insane, but increasing the damage of my decay aura? Naaah, lol
fallen escarp
Like Thunder Screen, Thorny Carapace, Blazing Hoop, Thunder Step and Nirvana Force.
Doesn't work on stuff like Giant Slayer, Explosive Bullets and Rich's Privileges. Not sure about Explosive Magazine, but I doubt it since it's similar to Explosive Bullets.
cobalt dock
@fallen escarp i just made my Foundry Combust in tombs 1-1
thought this didn't work
and it has bonus againt Health & Armor and penatly for Shield
fallen escarp
<@280234817113686017> i just made my Foundry Combust in tombs 1-1
How? The only way I can think of is if you have at least 2 players get fire or corrosion scrolls and give them to 1 player while Spiritual Link is active.
cobalt dock
runing Ksana now and its bonus against all 3 health types
fallen escarp
Painkiller causes 0 damage when inflicting Burning and Decay.
fallen escarp
🤨
cobalt dock
im clearing house
fallen escarp
Unless they changed it recently, that wasn't the case.
cobalt dock
yeah
fallen escarp
I spent a while point-blanking bandits with a Porcupine or Aura of Venom, and the first Combustion never did damage.
cobalt dock
fallen escarp
Well I guess Lightning Messenger might become useful again, if by proxy to a way more useful blessing.
cobalt dock
well, just Painkiller lets you smack Combustion on Ksana
cobalt dock
i guess
amber sorrel
How do you beat this game as cat?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/719399647570952192/1129736560758243429/20230715212908_1.jpg
visual osprey
Spam Q and use lightning weapon
Use your orb for sticky situations, the CC is nice
amber sorrel
The only thing I cannot beat is the 3rd boss
fallen escarp
Consider that it's not your offenses that weren't enough, but your defences.
Especially against Yoruhime-Maru, which completely blocks damage at certain points.
visual osprey
Gotta schmoove
amber sorrel
The slow movement speed is so noticeable after playing anyone else 😦
fallen escarp
Dog, Bunny and Fox are only 4% faster.
amber sorrel
Yeah
fallen escarp
Birb, Monke and Red Panda are only 10%.
visual osprey
That’s fair
When reincarnation dropped, I only used cat to beat R1-R7
Ol’ reliable
pearl garden
well, just Painkiller lets you smack Combustion on Ksana
Does this mean chain lightning can combust for more than 0 damage now 
or is it just a quirk of Lightning Messenger only.
cobalt dock
Does this mean chain lightning can combust for more than 0 damage now <:thinking...
that was my plan next
you do it
dusty apex
does the game not do peer to peer runs with one player as host anymore?
we all end up with ping counter, even the "host"
reef creek
Yo people actually like the dual wielding doggo?
I tried him like twice and nope out, felt bad to me
small ledge
I tried him like twice and nope out, felt bad to me
Clearly you are misguided my friend
You simply do not grasp it's power
reef creek
Maybe yeah
Still haven't managed to beat friendly-shaped-boss
On the second difficulty, I mean
And haven't played anyone but cat and dog
I like the cat
spare copper
is the reason queues are so long cause the games are so long? cause the game is super healthy player count wise (eu)
glad iris
No
It's long because you're not getting queued.
cancel and star it again after about 10 seconds.
spare copper
alright thx
glad iris
Or because it's dead.
spare copper
yuh
bronze warren
Or because it's dead.
I don't think the game is dead
It definitely has a lot of players
I can queue into many games
Usually depends on the time of day I play
bronze warren
I think the queue for elite and nightmare is non existent but if u queue for normal or reincarnation u should be getting into lobbies
quasi arrow
Do people talk a lot playing this?
Fortunately, they don't speak at all, ever.
keen flame
We just faced the problem with my friend.
We didn't connect and create lobby. Both have PS5 version. Both received the invite and after saw the loop "connection to lobby" and that's all.
Both have NAT 2 in PS network settings.
What we can do?
Thanks.
visual osprey
I literally never stop talking
quasi arrow
Do people need a builder? Something like this https://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#000000000015040100000000000000
fallen escarp
Since you can't guarantee what you want, I doubt it.
quasi arrow
I have an idea
fallen escarp
Best this would realistically be used for is theoretical.
"What would happen if I lucked out on this" so to speak.
quasi arrow
Best this would realistically be used for is theoretical.
Of course, there is no scientific accuracy involved, considering all the calculations in the game. It's purely for builds and answering silly questions.
visual osprey
I love silliness
mellow ruin
piercing flame go boom
solemn epoch
New best time.
nimble flint
nice time
dusty apex
Is there a way to force the game to use a player host instead of connecting everyone to a server host?
Everyone being connected to a server is hurting a lot more than helping
nimble flint
For steam there is no server
You all are P2P
if you have a bad connection indicated something is messing with the conenction between you
and no
High speed =!= stable clean connection
dusty apex
You all are P2P
we all end up with a ping counter though, even the host who in some cases ends up rubberbanding due to a bad connection to whatever we get routed to instead of a player host
back before this started happening the host never had a ping counter or suffered lag spikes
zinc frigate
Has anyone gotten trapped in a vault before? I finished one of those "Protect" the cube ones and I not only can't open the chest, I can't exit the portal
Huh, alt-tabbed and came back and it just worked, Very odd
distant idol
Building spores for the first time. Isn't this broken AF for it?
cobalt dock
https://i.imgur.com/CXugf4Z.png
@pearl garden it worked
quaint maple
does anyone know if defensive cleave still gives armor back if you have nova shockwave active?
inland glade
R8 elites with Flesh and Bones are kinda hard to kill lol
Flesh and Bones is just so good that it's hard to justify not taking it, even if the enemies get it too
cobalt dock
you are in the minority with that opinion
hidden portal
Lol
lofty bay
you are in the minority with that opinion
Love me some fleshy bones
glad iris
-lfg
proper beaconBOT
To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
#1064937664870101033
wild lily
I have an idea
is this self hosted rn or are you actually gonna make this?
quasi arrow
is this self hosted rn or are you actually gonna make this?
I plan to upload it to hosting and open a Git so that everything is accessible like bl2skills.com, but maybe I'll just make a selection of skills, Blessings, and weapons without any calculations.
spare inlet
Flesh and Bones is just so good that it's hard to justify not taking it, even if...
Try with the panamo trust me it will make your game much much harder plus fun if u play on 4 man
river smelt
whats the highest n of extravagant consumption stacks anyone has ever seen
cobalt dock
got a bit over 1000 yesterday
was infinite some patches back as you could consume infinitly
pearl garden
Billionaire run
upbeat drift
Most I've gotten was like 700, i was unlucky
steel stream
guys, is there anyone playing on normal on steam?
just got the steam version since ppl told me its much better, but I cant find anyone to play with
spare inlet
My most is 1k3
fossil tapir
guys, is there anyone playing on normal on steam?
I’ll play if you still want to
steel stream
I’ll play if you still want to
ST25N8KHMY20Q6
proper beaconBOT
To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
#1064937664870101033
little vortex
How's everyone doing? Hope you're all well!
fossil tapir
Whats the best way to farm soul essence
fervent bough
Whats the best way to farm soul essence
mp on higher difficulties
delicate hemlock
shooting again
stray rain
Does Taos “Sword Mastery” works with Blade of Bloom?
fallen escarp
No.
fallen escarp
Specifically says when using Swords Out. Blade of Bloom requires using Fatal Bloom, not Swords Out.
maiden lily
hey, im new here, does anyone know how can i play with a friend thats on game pass? or there is no cross platform between steam and game pass?
or if there is a way to transfer my progress from steam through game pass
fallen escarp
No crossplay between Steam and Gamepass.
Only crossplay that exists is Xbox Gamepass + PC Gamepass (Unstable), or PlayStation 4 + PlayStation 5 (Very unstable).
There's a known way to transfer progress from Gamepass to Steam, but as far as I'm aware there is no known way to do Steam to Gamepass.
bold kelp
that's because microsoft are cunts
I tried for like forever to transfer game progress from Enter the Gungeon to my PC and it's ALL encrypted
every last bit of data for the fucking microsoft store is encrpyted
and you can't get rid of the stupid bloat ware
zealous socket
hi is there a way to recover data from username? I think steam syncing got me confused and I lost my whole save from 120 hours of gameplay on both computers I had it in
quasi arrow
hi is there a way to recover data from username? I think steam syncing got me co...
Go to \Steam\userdata\54577243\1217060\remote and check your saves. Make a backup of the folder
Go to steam cloud and download your saves - user_1.dat, user_2.dat ...
Place downloaded user_1.dat to \Steam\userdata\54577243\1217060\remote
If the loaded file doesn't work, you need to create a new profile in the game and complete (skip) the tutorial. You will have a file called user_2.dat. After that, you replace the user_2.dat file with the one from the Steam Cloud.
And if that didn't work either, simply download any game save and place it in the save folder as user_2.dat. First, create the user_2.dat file in the game.
nimble flint
You missread that
The steam sync fucked up the local save
And save restoring from username IirC is not something we can do but would need to ask a step higher if there are tools for us for such situations
To “replicate” a save or such
quasi arrow
The steam sync fucked up the local save
it was autosync that can fail and write an empty file, files that directly accessible at the steam cloud could be normal
nimble flint
From how I read what they said it is the case that the local save was wiped with empty from the cloud
@zealous socket can you clearify ?
quasi arrow
From how I read what they said it is the case that the local save was wiped with...
yes, but it's better to double check if its really empty in the cloud.
And it's a steam fail coz Elden Ring(end tons of other games) had this problem with empty saves from cloud
little vortex
How's everyone doing today? ^^
quasi arrow
How's everyone doing today? ^^
Like that
fringe crystal
I stress when doing assignments and I just put on a timer on Google and it calms me down to track how long it's been
little vortex
I stress when doing assignments and I just put on a timer on Google and it calms...
Aslong as it helps! That's the important thing!
zealous socket
From how I read what they said it is the case that the local save was wiped with...
this is correct
zealous socket
Go to \Steam\userdata\54577243\1217060\remote and check your saves. Make a backu...
I haven't tried this but I can give it a shot later when i'm back home. Thank you for the suggestion!
as it appears I do not even have 54577243 in userdata
nimble flint
noonononono
#old-issues message
in the userdata you need YOUR steam Id
Zohan just posted their Steam id…
@zealous socket
zealous socket
oh I see
well there is just one user_1.dat
and also there is no steam in program files(x86) for me
so it's just here
but I will try other methods when I am back in 8 hours sorry
tough pelican
i apologize for thinking the rainbow is garbage
the rainbow with fire fox and meteor spam is absurd
quasi arrow
@zealous socket now download steam cloud file and replace your user_1.dat in C:\Steam. You have nothing to lose if its empty
nimble flint
yep thats an empty safe
zealous socket
ig if nothing works i can have my friend download his save and just use that? is that possible?
quasi arrow
ig if nothing works i can have my friend download his save and just use that? is...
Well, unless you don't care about your friend xD If it's empty it's empty
nimble flint
ig if nothing works i can have my friend download his save and just use that? is...
you can use any save , so yes you can use a copy of his
zealous socket
i could just do that maybe
flat timber
Should I buy both dlc? I am level 59 and haven't completed normal difficulty (I want p2w 😢)
zealous socket
so on my current local file that is level 1, I have Xing Zhe, Li, Nona unlocked (didn't buy dlc) as well as all the borders I had unlocked which includes most non DLC as well as all 1,2,3 mil borders. If i get a new safe file does that keep my DLC? I don't even recall buying the dlc @nimble flint @quasi arrow
zealous socket
Should I buy both dlc? I am level 59 and haven't completed normal difficulty (I ...
dlc is not p2w and crown prince is one of the best for beating higher level reincarnation consistently
nimble flint
Account stuff is not safe file related
flat timber
dlc is not p2w and crown prince is one of the best for beating higher level rein...
I was just kidding xD
zealous socket
u can check out abilities and see if they fit ur play style i mean if u like the game it doesn't hurt right
7 for 2 characters is pretty nice
flat timber
I throw green gas and then I attack with fire bad strategy?! Whelpp
zealous socket
Account stuff is not safe file related
so what if u try to put a safe file that has maxed dlc into an account that doesn't have dlc unlocked?
or vice versa
a safe file with no dlc unlocked into a steam account that has dlc
flat timber
a safe file with no dlc unlocked into a steam account that has dlc
It sounds bad are you doing something you shouldn't xD?
zealous socket
i'm wondering howd i get dlc characters when i didn't buy them
also artisan and magician has two characters
but i only have nona unlocked
zealous socket
yea but it's a level 1 safe and i'm wondering about importing safe files if those would be transferred over
nimble flint
Dlc isnt safe file tied
zealous socket
and it doesn't
quasi arrow
so what if u try to put a safe file that has maxed dlc into an account that does...
I bealeave - nothing. Just DLC will be unlocked coz it's in game content. I have a full Steam and a few "non-steam" versions for playing around Unity. And the only difference is a text file with a list of DLC to unlock it.
Besides that, if you get all DLC content due to a Steam error, it's already a problem of the developers, not yours. You can simply level up your 1 lvl save file.
nimble flint
thats account tied
All the dlc does is unlock the stuff
You have them in game already installed
Weapons and characters
But cant access them unless your steam account has the unlock
flat timber
Intresting
quasi arrow
Well, yes, maybe there will be a softlock on the DLC content until you purchase it.
flat timber
So is it possible to unlock it by editing in game files then 💀
Or else how will it be soft unlock
nimble flint
And then get banned by the cheat detection for having files that shouldnt be possible
flat timber
Oh right that things
nimble flint
You wanna brick your game ?
flat timber
Bro the only reason I will purchase the dlc to see the brick hype
Btw I am new to gunfire reborn hi guys! 
agile grotto
Brick as a weapon, lol
quasi arrow
Brick as a weapon, lol
Great profile icon, Nameless Hero
agile grotto
Glad to see ppl recognize it
quasi arrow
Well, you must be at least 30 to recognize it 🙂
fast gull
im hoping someone can help me out. I haven't played gunfire for a while and decided to pick it up today to play the two new characters. In the past my RTX 3060 was easily able to pull 100+ fps in game, but now it is going below 60 fps when playing. This is especially true when playing Nona and in a group full of Nona's I think Iron Wing is making the game dip to below 30fps. Anyone know what is going on? Or had similar experience?
kind void
Bro the only reason I will purchase the dlc to see the brick hype
you can join games with people who have the dlc and they can get it for you
little vortex
im hoping someone can help me out. I haven't played gunfire for a while and deci...
Have you updated your GPU drivers?
fast gull
Have you updated your GPU drivers?
yup its on the latest
i even bought another graphics card, brand new, also rtx 3060 same issue.
little vortex
Hmm..
Okay
Have you tried to verify the integrity of the files?
little vortex
My best recommendations at this point are;
1st, check your settings in the game, make sure your resolution hasn't changed, or it's not capped at a lower FPS
2nd, if that doesn't work, uninstall the game, and upon doing that, navigate to the install location and delete any files that remain. After doing that, reinstall and test
3rd, if that doesn't work, I'd recommend DDU
little vortex
Display Driver Uninstaller.
It's a program that completely wiped GPU drivers from a computer. Doing this will make sure 1000% it's not a driver issue
fast gull
Display Driver Uninstaller.
It's a program that completely wiped GPU drivers fro...
I uninstalled gunfire and deleted all leftover files. reinstalled gunfire, DDU my graphics drivers, reinstalled graphics drivers. FPS is still the same 😞
all other games are fine i dont get it
little vortex
Huh..
I really have no idea then
I'd say put in a support ticket, i apologise for not being able to help
fast gull
i appreciate your help. how do I send a support ticket?
little vortex
Id recommend going into the issues section in this discord and supplying details there
There's only one more thing I can think of doing, but I really doubt it'll help.
And that's just turning your computer off, clicking it off by the power supply and letting it sit for 30 seconds before restarting.
Sometimes, doing that fixes weird issues, but I doubt it'll do anything here.
I do hope your issue is solved soon!
visual osprey
S+ tech support @little vortex
little vortex
I appreciate that! I trained as an IT support Technician for years haha, so I like to try and help where I can
pearl garden
People actually being empathetic and helpful on Discord W
Person being helped also being receptive and respectful W
quasi arrow
I uninstalled gunfire and deleted all leftover files. reinstalled gunfire, DDU m...
Try to set fps limit in nvidia control panel to maximum. had the same with Divinity.
Also try "-window-mode exclusive" command line
tacit bough
Genuine question, but what is up with the english localisation/translation of some parts of the games? Recently I got the Magician / Zi Xiao and been playing him a lot. But the mechanics of how the different aspects for his Primary work is just insanely complex, and their abilities being a complete wordsoup that gramatically makes very little sense, really does not help at all.
(Not even talking about their Ascension Scrolls found in the game yet)
vapid crag
Wow
fallen escarp
Translation from what I can tell:
Critical Demonlore
• CritX Share gemini
• +100% elemental effect chance.
• +10% lucky shot chance per 10% ammo consumed (up to +100%, resets on reload/weapon swap).
• +60% magazine capacity.
• +20% lucky shot chance.
tacit bough
Yeah same grammar issue with the Lightning Tiger / Lei Luo :/. His Primary and the Magical Supply scroll very ambigiously use 'shot' as term.
Proposition;
Fatal Current
Lei Luo activates the electric magic under their tattoos, granting them +30% Movement Speed and +50% Skill DMG for 5 seconds. During this, whenever Lei Luo strikes an enemy with a weapon attack, it deals +100% Weapon Damage and is followed up by a thunderbolt dealing 800 'Lightning' DMG. Doing so ends the effect immediately.
Magical Supply
Whenever you kill an enemy with a weapon attack during [Fatal Current], rather than ending the effect, it recasts [Fatal Current] with 30% of its duration.
fallen escarp
Those used to be worse.
They used to talk about a mechanic called "Thunderstrike" which was the damage bonus + thunderbolt when shooting.
People kept confusing it for the actual thunderbolts in other ascensions.
tacit bough
Concerning.
vapid crag
Translation from what I can tell:
Critical Demonlore
• CritX Share gemini
• +100...
That sick nah ? :)))
tacit bough
Oh lmao, that's not even what it does, Magical Supply is worse.
It's 30% of whatever 'that active' duration was, which keeps being reduced by 70% on each consecutive trigger.
fallen escarp
No it isn't actually.
It is actually -30% duration. You get 70% of the previous duration.
You can trigger quite a lot of Fatal Currents in a row with just the base 5 or 6 seconds. If you lost 70% duration each time, you'd get maybe 1 extra before the duration becomes way too short.
nimble flint
No ?
Thats one of the more powerful things you can do relaunching fatal current automatically
fallen escarp
No ?
Thats one of the more powerful things you can do relaunching fatal current...
Talking about the translations.
Personally I find it pretty understandable myself. Kill an enemy with your weapon during fatal current, recast fatal current but with 30% less duration.
nimble flint
Same
"If the first shot that hits an enemy during [Fatal Current] kills the target, the ammo consumed will be recovered and [Fatal Current] will be relaunched with -30% duration."
tacit bough
Personally I find it pretty understandable myself. Kill an enemy with your weapo...
Yeah but that's not what it says. It just says 'shot'
nimble flint
It has to be the shot and not the lightning strike
The first shot during Fatal Current is the trigger
fallen escarp
The only part I find could be misleading is it says the first shot, but doesn't mention it's only the first shot that hits an enemy.
But I doubt most players look that deeply into the description anyway. They probably just think "shots during fatal current do this".
nimble flint
During Fatal Current you can shoot how much you want
tacit bough
mhm, because the effect only ends (and triggers) if you actually hit an enemy
nimble flint
but only the first shot that hits gets the effect
tacit bough
It also is weird how the game tosses the word 'capacity' on just about everything.
fallen escarp
The alternative is "max".
tacit bough
But eh that's just me.
fallen escarp
And then again, even that doesn't cover everything.
nimble flint
Capacity just has shit synonyms that dont really fit
tacit bough
I mean, for people less advanced in english that's a much better word to use, IMO
Though, like, Magician has multiple shiz that deals with 'capacity'
fallen escarp
Think about it, what looks more accurate to its actual effect?
"+12 Smoke Grenade Capacity."
"+12 Max Smoke Grenades."
tacit bough
Capacity can reveal to Scroll count, amount of cards held, or amount of 'secondary' charges
tacit bough
Think about it, what looks more accurate to its actual effect?
"+12 Smoke Grena...
The problem is that is doesn't use that. It just says "+X max capacity", and then elsewhere it says what it relates to
nimble flint
Actually it doesnt
fallen escarp
I think that's specifically referring to the simplified descriptions when you're not at a goblet.
nimble flint
prince just has "+x Smoke Grenade Capacity"
nimble flint
Those ore just TLDR
fallen escarp
The main effect above, and specific to level changes below.
You used to get walls of text for each ascension, because they all had the full description 3 times.
tacit bough
But as said above, 'capacity' gets really clunky to use whenn you deal with a class that has THREE different values capacity can relay to
fallen escarp
That's why you read the main description first, to know what it refers to.
tacit bough
It really isn't that hard to just write;
+X Max cards held.
+X Max scrolls.
+X Max <secondary> charges
+X Max <primary> charges
Also, fun fact about [Fatal Current], the chain is valid if the shot is fired during it, not then it hits.
Meaning that if you shoot a slow or timed projectile (like the Tiger Shark or the Salamander) during [fatal current], it STILL will re-cast [fatal current] if it kills an enemy even when [fatal current] already ended.
fallen escarp
I think this is getting into specific details territory. The stuff that you can't expect descriptions of even games from English speaking devs to do.
Because otherwise descriptions for everything would be hilariously long, talking about all the tiny exceptions and rules.
tacit bough
Lei Luo activates the electric magic under their tattoos, granting them +30% Movement Speed, +50% Skill DMG, and empowers his Weapon Attacks for 5 seconds. If any of his empowered Weapon Attacks hits a target, it deals +100% Weapon Damage and is followed up by a thunderbolt dealing 800 'Lightning' DMG, but ends [Fatal Current] immediately.
Done 🤷
fallen escarp
That is also inaccurate.
Only the first shot that hits is actually empowered. You can shoot a dozen times and have all shots hit an enemy later, but only 1 will deal extra damage.
Icy Spear users can confirm this, myself included.
(It's a massive pity, but a justified one.)
tacit bough
Lei Luo activates the electric magic under their tattoos, granting them +30% Movement Speed, +50% Skill DMG, and empowers his Weapon Attacks for 5 seconds. Once each cast, if any of his empowered Weapon Attacks hits a target, it deals +100% Weapon Damage and is followed up by a thunderbolt dealing 800 'Lightning' DMG, but ends [Fatal Current] immediately.
Just 3 words to add there.
Killing an enemy using [Fatal Current]'s empowered Weapon Attack refunds the ammo consumed this way, and immediately re-casts [Fatal Current] with 70% of its current maximum duration.
fallen escarp
Keep in mind, you're welcome to submit possible translation changes in #1006489853648715786. The devs sometimes see them and implement them.
Well, they don't all get implemented, such is player-made suggestions, but still some of them.
tacit bough
Fair enough, I concede to that I'm more bordering suggestion territory atm than criticism as I initiatelly came in for.
Also, valid question, but why didn't the devs simply use %variable strings% on scrolls?
Like, that one scroll that says -50% Primary Skill CD, but Secondary Skill always has 3s Cooldown
Why not just use %PrimarySkill% and %SecondarySkill% in the code, so that players on their end will see the scroll as;
-50% [Fatal Current] CD, but [Chain Lightning] always has 3s CD.
At least, the last thing I want to do as a player, is run constant reconsiderations which of my abilities is which.
fallen escarp
I'd imagine due to simplification, particularly in multiplayer.
If a scroll says it benefits Fatal Current and a non-tiger teammate wants it, it wouldn't make sense to give it to them because they don't use Fatal Current. It may become confusing.
But if it just says primary skill, well every hero has a primary skill.
tacit bough
But then IMO the game should at least tell you which is which
fallen escarp
Ascensions get away with this because, besides 1 in the Ascension Fusion bizarre dream, you can't get confused between anything else.
tacit bough
because if I see this, I have absolutely no idea which of these is my Primary and which of these is my Secondary.
fallen escarp
I think that's more a failure of the hero screen, and less about descriptions of every single thing that affects them.
tacit bough
Especially when I enter a zone where they mention primary/secondary, in which I don't even see this page.
nimble flint
I mean to be in favor of the game
The game tells you in the tutorial to use E your primary skill and explains that
same with Q for Secondary
Establishing :
E skill used is Primary ,
Q skill is Secondary
And the key shown changes according to your settings in the Keybinds
so you should very much now : That is my Primary and this my secondary
My keybinds
tacit bough
That'd even make it more confusing, tbh.
But it wouldn't be weird to write it as; Primary: Energy Orb Secondary: Smoke Grenade
nimble flint
I have to heavily disagree
tacit bough
Because the tutorial only helps you teach what the skills for the Crown Prince are, but literally none other
valid zephyr
You learn them as you play them
tacit bough
No I mean as in; that tutorial only happens when you play the crown prince
nimble flint
it doesnt say Smoke nades or Energy Orb.
It specifically shows your keybinds in conjunction with Primary and Secondary
that has nothing to do with Prince
you could have any character there
tacit bough
Can you revisit the tutorial then after having done it?
valid zephyr
I mean how could the game tell you how to play a character when there are so many different builds possible with each character
nimble flint
Its always Prince if you want to know that but thats irrelevant
It specifcally avoids anything to that character and keeps the general Primary / Secondary
valid zephyr
It’s easy, you play the game and find out
nimble flint
There is the connection : Keybind -> Tutorial Message -> Menu Display in Hero Selection
In the Keybinds I set F as Primary. The Tutorial says F in the prompt for Primary Skill use and then in the Hero selections it always show F in the bottom left corner of the characters Primary skill
Its clear what is Primary skill unless you ignore and forget what you bind your primary skill use to
fallen escarp
There are other more subtle hints at primary/secondary as well. The fact that in the hero screen at the inn and ascensions tab during a run the primary skill is always above the secondary skill. Unless you have a mindset where you start at the bottom, you should end up starting from the top, where you find skill 1, and skill 2.
There's also how during runs your primary skill is shown in the center of your screen while the secondary is moved off to the side, showing that the primary is more important because well, it's your prime skill.
tacit bough
I mean, that more translates to 'F is Energy Orb', not 'F is Primary'
amber sorrel
?
nimble flint
tacit bough
Changing keybinds isn't something a lot of players do, let alone in their first week(s) learning the game.
nimble flint
Nowhere is established E = Energy Orb
amber sorrel
I'm still using default
nimble flint
the game NEVER says that
tacit bough
I understand the keybind page refers to such and such, but that cannot be a defense for tutelage.
nimble flint
The game literally tells you at default :
Press E to use Primary Skill
tacit bough
I'm not saying the game says it, but that's not how it translates it either
The game says F > Primary, but your game shows Primary > Energy Orb, thus the direct player action -> player observation is F > (Primary >) Energy Orb
fallen escarp
At that point in the tutorial you don't even know what Energy Orb is.
You just know to press button for primary skill, then you throw out a pink orb.
tacit bough
A player learns from input vs observation, not every single step along the way that when interacting with the game matters. That's a whole different layer of learning the ropes, and really something you should not on surface-level with base game upgrades, should refer to.
nimble flint
And you are ignoring the input and facts the game gives you
You are only told that the button is primary
tacit bough
That's why a lot of games use %variable strings%, so you don't have that ambiguity.
nimble flint
Then you see other heros with that key prompt next to their skills
amber sorrel
even the positioning of the UI elements should give you a hint which is primary
the giant icon for this skill is in the center of the screen
and is bigger than the UI element for the other skill
tacit bough
You don't even get to see other heroes until you're already a couple of runs past that singular message. Unless you buy the dlc heroes, of course.
nimble flint
False again
amber sorrel
yeah
nimble flint
And also
tacit bough
I should've properly worded that with 'get to frequently see' that page, since there's nothing you can unlock or choose from until level 25
nimble flint
Uri
stop
You are just trying to get to make your argument look right and backpeddling whenever counter evidence is given
tacit bough
Au contraire, my first initiation on the subject was a very common programing practice of using %variable strings% and the only rebutal to it given is a whole lecture of why you don't remember something that's only shown to you once unless you dive into keybinds.
valid zephyr
The game literally tells you on screen what button to press for the move
tacit bough
Yes, once.
valid zephyr
It’s on the screen
nimble flint
And then you use them
valid zephyr
It’s always there
valid zephyr
Sorry
tacit bough
Unless you're backing up my earlier point that Q = smoke grenade + E = energy orb, because that's exactly my earlier point that your UI and hero page completely skips the [Primary] [Secondary] step.
nimble flint
Because through the tutorial and repeated use ingame you reinforce those connections
As you yourself let assume the new player will just play and only later the other characters
valid zephyr
You don’t instantly become a pro player after every tutorial in every game. You gotta play the game and see what works
tacit bough
Yes, the connection, but not the route.
tacit bough
You don’t instantly become a pro player after every tutorial in every game. You ...
But I believe my whole point way above was about ambigious information presented to players not familiar with the game yet?
valid zephyr
But it explains what each character does when you Choose that character in the selection screen
You can’t miss it
You can even read what ascensions there are and blessings before even getting into a match
fallen escarp
The only way you could become unfamiliar with the game enough to forget what a primary/secondary skill is, is if you don't play for long enough.
tacit bough
Like, see it as a train you take for work. If you every day take a train from city A to city I, and it passes along city C, E and G, then at some point your memory just filters out cities C, E and G, because they're not important for you going from A to I. So if then something suddenly says [For every train passing E], that's very unfriendly for people to learn.
fallen escarp
But doing that causes a lot of information to fade away, and a lot of it is just as hard if not harder to remember.
Like fusion effects.
valid zephyr
So you just go weapon build on every character? Because you refuse to learn what a primary skill is
tacit bough
But it explains what each character does when you Choose that character in the s...
Hero page only says [Keybind A] does this ability, [Keybind B] does that ability. Only in the tutorial, or the keybind settings, are you shown that Keybind A is primary Keybind B is secondary.
valid zephyr
I mean the skills are the main use of characters. Even doing weapons using certain skills helps
I mean there’s a clear size difference
One big move in the center of the screen. Hmmm I wonder what that is
One small move in the lower right corner. Probably a secondary
nimble flint
Hero page only says [Keybind A] does this ability, [Keybind B] does that abilit...
So what you are saying the moment you dont get that information you forget it entirely despite having to use it while playing the game. Implying no new player or all have no information permanence. Game off = information gone
That is your argument to use variables to show skill names
And multiple people tell you otherwise
tacit bough
...
valid zephyr
So when you play other games Uri you know exactly what every mechanic and move in just the tutorial?
tacit bough
What I'm saying is that a singular message you get in minute 5 of the game and nowhere else but a settings page, is not enough information, no. Especially when the whole understanding of keeping their types separate of each other, doesn't even come into play much later down the line.
tacit bough
So when you play other games Uri you know exactly what every mechanic and move i...
I mean, I can haul in for example, League of Legends. Similar principle; game tells you that you have 1 passive, 3 basic abilities, and 1 ultimate.
But they don't give you that info once, and then leave that info to 'sink down' until you're 3 hours further in the game.
valid zephyr
Wdym? You have a primary and secondary on every single character in gunfire how would you be confused when seeing it again?
tacit bough
They have characters and mechanics that constantly reinforces 'what is my passive', 'what is a basic ability'. Etc.
valid zephyr
You’re also comparing gunfire to LoL which is a from a big game company that has spent an absolutely shit load of money on the game
tacit bough
Wdym? You have a primary and secondary on every single character in gunfire how ...
Because the game's later benefits don't refer to 'The skill'. They refer to a line you haven't seen in at average 3 hours.
valid zephyr
What benefits?
tacit bough
or the rare one, that says primary CD -50%, but secondary +3s cooldown
I mean, it's great that it makes sense to you
valid zephyr
I mean imagine you have 1 use on a bar. And you pick up the scroll and it now says 2. Kinda obvious which one is primary
tacit bough
But now show that to someone who hasn't seen the [E = Primary = Energy Bomb] once and never again for 3 hours.
valid zephyr
You can even drop the scroll to see the difference
How can you NOT see it when playing the game?
It on your screen
If you’re playing cat
Bright purple orb on the middle of your screen
tacit bough
Because your UI doesn't say 'E = Primary'. Your UI shows E = (Energy Bomb Logo)
nimble flint
Because the UI shuildnt
valid zephyr
I mean the average player reads what they pick for a class when they play a game
tacit bough
Neither does the hero page itself, it only shows E = Energy Bomb + description
fallen escarp
Both examples have obvious indicators.
Energy Storage gives the purple orb icon a "2" next to it. Ancient Timer causes a cooldown to appear on your green blob icon.
valid zephyr
But it states in the main page when you pick your hero that the energy bomb is your primary and what keybind to press.
fallen escarp
Even if you don't know which is which, it shouldn't take long before you go "Wait, why is that-? Ohhhh! That's what that is!"
amber sorrel
Can I just say that on the hero page the primary skill and secondary skill are always in the same order
valid zephyr
Facts
amber sorrel
Primary 1st
Secondary 2nd
not hard
valid zephyr
^
tacit bough
You simply cannot refer to a term or line shown only once to you, and ever only again in a settings/control panel page. Even if LoL / riot is a big company, %variable strings% or reinforcing ability layouts is not a billionaire programming practice.
valid zephyr
I just don’t know why you’re so mad over the game when it’s so easy to understand
tacit bough
I didn't know disagreeing with you already equates mad, but sure.
tacit bough
But I just said that this isn't (just-) an 'I' thing, but always adressed this as a 'many new players' thing?
valid zephyr
Seems like just you right now
valid zephyr
I haven’t seen one either
tacit bough
I'm bringing some of my own perspectives and interpretations, sure, but I'm not the only one who had unnessary struggle to keep things apart.
nimble flint
in 3 years not once
valid zephyr
YOURE OWN perspectives. See it’s your problem
fallen escarp
The elemental vs health type mechanics get more confusion than this, from what I've seen.
And the game literally tells you that on every single bit of elemental weaponry or scroll.
valid zephyr
I mean even that makes since, fire is bad against flesh. Lightning is bad against shield, and corrosive is known to be bad against armor.
tacit bough
(#borderlands)
valid zephyr
And it’s color coded super clearly on the enemies health bar
fallen escarp
Not all people who play this game are Borderlands fans either.
valid zephyr
Not everyone plays borderlands uri
tacit bough
No, but it does convey the imagge that people with different gaming histories have different angles of learning the game.
valid zephyr
Yours clearly is different
tacit bough
That's why transparancy and reinforcing mechanics is always a good practice.
tacit bough
Not sure what your angle here is
But a 'tutorial' is, and should not, be your sole info broker on understanding something. Nor have I said that LoL's tutorial was.
nimble flint
But you mention reinforcing mechanics
valid zephyr
I mean, I can haul in for example, League of Legends. Similar principle; game te...
It tells you everything you need to know right so you must be good at the game.
nimble flint
so using it doesnt count to you or what ?
Reinforcing over and over that the prompt relates to primary and secondary
and your E is your primary as you keep using it
tacit bough
Using an ability =/= reinforcing the understanding your ability is a primary/secondary
amber sorrel
looking at it is repetition
tacit bough
You're only reinforcing that keybind = this effect.
valid zephyr
So you must never change your keybinds on other games too uri
Since that’s taboo to you
tacit bough
Reinforcing that [Falling Star] is a Primary, is simply stuff like;
Hero page;
Primary: Falling Star
(Cd: 15), etc etc
Scroll;
- Increases your Primary: %PrimaryAbility% max charges by 1
Etc
tacit bough
So you must never change your keybinds on other games too uri
You have a really weird tendancy of saying things in a very assumptive personal manner. I really struggle to see what you're trying to achieve with this.
'you must be mad'
'you must be pro at lol then'
'you must never change your keybinds then'
Don't, please?
valid zephyr
But the secondary doesn’t increase primary skill capacity for charges, only scrolls below the charge so that display is wrong uri
Definitely mad lol
fallen escarp
I don't believe this is even going into any new discussion anymore, and is slowly resulting in various insults.
It might be time to end this soon.
valid zephyr
Did y’all see that monkeys post in the Reddit feed? Dude hit for 250 mil in 1 hit
amber sorrel
I am doing another cat run and I will be really annoyed if I don't finally beat this game once on cat
valid zephyr
Try fire tower / poison ghost with elemental Gemini as cat if you wanna try a good weapons build
fallen escarp
Depending on their progression, they might not be able to achieve that.
valid zephyr
Or double stack fire tower elemental
amber sorrel
I can always get to boss 3 but never beat it on cat
I've beat every boss first time as fox
except for stage 4
fallen escarp
Cloud Weaver is better for skill builds, since you can use both at once.
valid zephyr
You could also focus more on survivability scrolls over damage scrolls when getting them from chests that give you an option
amber sorrel
I legit didn't need skills to beat the boss
fallen escarp
And Cat's secondary skill is some of the most valuable in the game.
amber sorrel
I just mouse over the crit point on the serpent and it died
valid zephyr
Oh in your cat run just now?
valid zephyr
Ohh
valid zephyr
Spores is zero skill
I mean actually you could just cheese every boss by doing spores
But it’s no fun
fallen escarp
Try finding a powerful fire weapon, or lightning weapon with a frequent Shock inflictions.
Then just keep using your Smoke Grenades. You'll set off a lot of powerful fusion effects, even if you don't put anything into Smoke Grenades.
valid zephyr
Rainbow + Argus and only upgrade Argus with spores = eZ win
amber sorrel
I beat the game first at level 42 on nona and fox
Now I'm lvl 81 trying to get cat win
I'm using a +6 tailsman on cat right now
+10*
fallen escarp
Talisman is... alright I suppose for normal difficulty.
valid zephyr
If you’re going weapons a fire tower is best but only if you can survive being in melee range of enemies so sanguine relic is good or fire enthusiast with flesh n bones
amber sorrel
The only thing I can't beat as cat is the final boss 😦
I'm just walking forward and landing headshots on everything else
valid zephyr
Talisman is... alright I suppose for normal difficulty.
Same reaction I had
fallen escarp
There are definitely better weapons for doing elements or crits than Talisman, assuming you can aim well enough.
valid zephyr
Play tiger snipers long enough and you will aim pretty well
amber sorrel
I can aim well enough
Right now I'm just clicking once and everything dies
valid zephyr
Seems pretty good
fallen escarp
Might want to have another elemental weapon for bosses and elites. They don't die in one click of Talisman... unless you've got a super OP build somehow.
valid zephyr
Depends on elemental chance on talisman
fallen escarp
Unless you have an element share gemini or the +50% Elemental Effect Chance on crit inscription, it doesn't matter much for Talisman.
valid zephyr
True
fallen escarp
Its elemental chance just... sucks.
amber sorrel
Yeah that's fair
valid zephyr
Isn’t it like 10%?
amber sorrel
amber sorrel
I'm double dipping in corrosive procs
valid zephyr
Proc rate is super low per hit
fallen escarp
Yeah, that's not a very good weapon period, let alone it being Talisman.
valid zephyr
Fire tower could proc every hit just about. Or even poison ghost which btw scales with enemy health on its secondary move allowing you to do a 3 burst damage for mostly all of the enemies health (besides bosses)
amber sorrel
I have not seen a fire tower this run
valid zephyr
Most fire towers are 37% or 50% sometimes can get the etch where it inflicts it’s elemental on all enemies in 8m which is the best
fallen escarp
That Talisman will work early on, but I'd imagine it would get quickly outscaled later on.
amber sorrel
I'm at stage 3 and doing fire
valid zephyr
Trust poisonous ghost is OP
fallen escarp
It's also risky, despite its power.
And depending on player skill and game difficulty, it might be too rangerous and/or not necessary.
valid zephyr
As long as you have 3 charges saved up for bosses/elites you can. Chunk the enemies health super fast with each charge
As it scales with their health regardless of weapon level
fallen escarp
Less for elites and bosses.
25% for normal enemies, 12% for elites and only 5% for bosses.
And scales with their current health, not maximum.
valid zephyr
Yes
So if you use it at the start. It takes away a ton of health at the start
It’s better to use at the start and then finish them off with something else
fallen escarp
Against bosses, that effect will at best remove 14.2625% of their health from 3 uses.
valid zephyr
But it’s a good weapon regardless
amber sorrel
FINALLY
valid zephyr
Very nice
amber sorrel
Honestly I don't see the probllem with using talisman
fallen escarp
You'll see the problem on later difficulties.
As said, Talisman on normal difficulty is alright.
valid zephyr
Trust the talisman isn’t a strong weapon all the time
amber sorrel
wish I could turn off the homing
valid zephyr
That would make it so hard to use lol
amber sorrel
I like actually hitting stuff I want to hit
valid zephyr
Snipers
amber sorrel
I don't like those
fallen escarp
Pistols.
valid zephyr
Brick
amber sorrel
low firing rate so worse elemental procs
fallen escarp
Some injectors too.
amber sorrel
I love pistols and shotguns already
fallen escarp
Scorching Rounds in particular can do reasonably well as Cat.
valid zephyr
Try the aura of venom if u find one with the scroll bloody ammo. Tons of fun with the right click
amber sorrel
Scorching rounds is one of my favourites
I honestlyl rely on crits more than elemental procs
valid zephyr
Elemental does so much damage though
amber sorrel
I know
valid zephyr
Goes passed damage cap
amber sorrel
But I still pick any weapon and headshot things
I'm not saying I don't use ellemental
but stage 1 and 2 I just pick the most decent weapon and headshot everything
valid zephyr
Launchers are good early game
amber sorrel
I honestly only used them once
valid zephyr
Annihilates all those little beetle spawns super fast
amber sorrel
and then switched back out
valid zephyr
In act 1
amber sorrel
I just hit each of them once
valid zephyr
Just wait until you try nightmare mode solo as cat
amber sorrel
Honestly don't know what to level now
fallen escarp
Getting Skilled Craftsman is always good.
Efficient Casting is also nice. Dashes are important.
nimble flint
and chance for exclusives
amber sorrel
Thanks
icy gazelle
Can I talk about my attempt for the "Sky is the Limit" achievement here is that prefered to be in the speedrun channels?
icy gazelle
It was more of I wanted share how fricken close I was to getting it haha
flat timber
you can join games with people who have the dlc and they can get it for you
What you can do that??!!! I bought it just now welp
flat timber
flat timber
but now you also get to play as the most busted character in the game so
Well it is what it is I guess
@kind void fire and green gas better or electric and green gas?
kind void
fire and corrosion = 300% dmg electric + corrosion = enemies attack other enemies
so fire and corrosion
quasi arrow
flat timber
I feel like I am digging a hole to bury my self
visual osprey
Lei Luo is a monster
flat timber
Lei Luo is a monster
Ooo
flat timber
Ohh so electricity and fire?
flat timber
Truly electrifying gameplay
Tell the combo
visual osprey
There’s multiple builds
What difficulty do you play on?
Bc if you’re on reincarnation, spiritual blessings change the game
flat timber
I have 30hrs in normal 💀😢
flat timber
Oo
visual osprey
Prioritize stuff that increases dmg, your main focus is Magical Supply and Stormblast
You can chain together one shots easily
flat timber
The fire sniper?
visual osprey
I like the bloody drill, lightning Ksana, and double caliber
flat timber
That looks like magma
flat timber
I see
visual osprey
Only thing I won’t use is the goshawk cuz it’s ugly
flat timber
xD
flat timber
Bro I played the cat so much that whenever I try another character it turns my mood off 😢
visual osprey
And once you do, and start exploring synergies and combos, it’s super fun!
flat timber
Ahh I see
visual osprey
There’s a lot of helpful people in this server as well
visual osprey
Cat’s Grenades are so nice
flat timber
Facts
visual osprey
The utility is unmatched
flat timber
🛐
visual osprey
Oh, also
If you ever come across a Calvary..:
Uuuuuuuuuuuuse iiiiiiiiiiiiit
(Don’t ask me why)
flat timber
That gun is confusing
visual osprey
It’s a 3 round burst
flat timber
It's not a shotgun
visual osprey
Yea
visual osprey
You can get a blue inscription sometimes on a normal weapon
It’d be like, “convert normal damage of weapon to x element”
And also, in Reincarnation, with the spiritual link turned on, there’s some effects that do the same
flat timber
Bro that changed my perspective waowww
visual osprey
For example, stacking 3 fire scrolls will give you permanent fire conversion
However, ONLY normal damage weapons can be converted
For example, a piercing flame CANNOT become lightning or corrosion, as it is already FUEGO
visual osprey
Yeah, it’d be blue
flat timber
Ahh
visual osprey
I love converting everything to fire
flat timber
That money taking chest does it right?
visual osprey
^
flat timber
Oooo
nimble flint
You can get a talent for the blacksmith to add an inscription
That can get you that as well
flat timber
Hmm intresting
nimble flint
The chests as you say have various options for that
And then there is also the gemini inscirption
for elemental share
AND
Monkeys ascension
flat timber
Wat is Gemini
nimble flint
To add a temporary inscription
flat timber
Oh
nimble flint
it unlocks a special inscription for weapons that they can get
flat timber
My talents are not max 😭😂
flat timber
Oh
nimble flint
lvl 30
nimble flint
np and have fun with the game
visual osprey
Enjoy the dinner!
nimble flint
or linner
when you want to be efficient and have lunch and dinner at the same time
or bresert
flat timber
Beck
quaint maple
i had a god weapon, ill screenshot it after my run it was really good
glad iris
43mins*
lofty bay
what is this "nerf"
flat timber
Makin it bad
native heart
what is this "nerf"
Nerf as an expression is referring to the fact that nerf guns shoot foam bullets and are therefore weak, so if something was to be “nerfed” it would mean; to be made weaker
native heart
Honestly don't know what to level now
Battle tree should be main priority there imo
quaint maple
That damage is WHY HOW 💀
flat timber
Crazy
So this is the hype I suppose
Btw my talents @nimble flint
Brick go yellow brick erase everything
spark stream
whats the build for tiger
amber sorrel
Get a Pupil….it’s…wonderful.
There was no pupil that dropped
little vortex
Mum look! I'm in Gunfire!
wild lily
I keep hearing about Dimensional Pouch but I can't see it on the talents screen
how do you get it?
visual osprey
Mum look! I'm in Gunfire!
Playable character?
proud shale
how do you get it?
Doesnt exist anymore
little vortex
Playable character?
I wish hqha
visual osprey
Me too!
fallen escarp
I keep hearing about Dimensional Pouch but I can't see it on the talents screen
Used to be a talent. Isn't in the game anymore, as its now redundant.
amber sorrel
I have 21 hours and finish around 31 to 37 mins when I do every vault
Think it was 40 mins first run
At LVL 40
flat timber
No no no no no no no no no
amber sorrel
Yes?
flat timber
Ohh
flat timber
And they were on sale
That's great I liked the game too but thought I should play some more before buying the dlcs
amber sorrel
I've been playing fox
visual osprey
Gooooooooooood
amber sorrel
Just for the movement speed honestly
amber sorrel
That 0.2 is something I notice compared to cat
amber sorrel
🙂
small ledge
Dog is clearly best character bc he can wield 2x more bricks
amber sorrel
Me discovering brick the first time: headshot headshot headshot
Now give cinder block aka fire brick
small ledge
Cinder block that's amazing
nimble flint
Ahh good old HexaGONE
R8 stand in Windgods sand trap , let the timer run out
poof boss one hit
huh
Octopus can kill itself
or this one bugged out
it kept shooting ... itself
visual osprey
Hexagon with gun build Lei Luo is HILARIOUS
I am happy to find a fellow Hexagon enjoyer
little vortex
So you guys think a Hexagon would be good with a Zi weapon build?
visual osprey
I don’t think
Unless it’s about the Calvary
But seriously, I think the Hexagon is great for most gun builds, because a full defensive tool that nukes is great
Works decent with skill trick, too
spare inlet
Tbh imo the scale of hexagon is amazing but is it kinda nicche with it gimmick i only use that gun on golem and that is
fervent bough
calvary is pretty fun
nimble flint
Tbh imo the scale of hexagon is amazing but is it kinda nicche with it gimmick i...
Various elites would like to have a word with you. Same for Desert snipers and arsonists or hermits or villians or Ichty or Windgod …
Basically all enemies that have a fast chain of attacks or single hard hitting attack are good targets for Hexagon
spare inlet
Yes and a brick or a or a monkey with a argus can 1 tap them like hexa and dont need much work ( im mostly play 4 man mutil so that is my pov)
spare inlet
So you guys think a Hexagon would be good with a Zi weapon build?
Also if you talk about monkey then try first strike with that i think is will be a fun build
fallen escarp
First Strike is no longer exclusive to Monke.
So you can realistically do it with anyone.
fallen escarp
Who said it's pointless on Monke?
It still works on him, but other heroes might be able to use it better.
visual osprey
Oh, I'm just referring to what SUC said about using brick/argus with monkey instead of using the hexagon
fallen escarp
Fair.
spare inlet
Yes but monkey is still good on wp build
spare inlet
Oh, I'm just referring to what SUC said about using brick/argus with monkey inst...
I said brick not brick with monkey tbh tiger better with that
visual osprey
That wasn't the point I was making
I just don't like the logic of "don't use this, because something else is better"
glad iris
Hexagon is more satisfying.
short night
So. I don`t know guys. Played the game for quite some time. But after all the changes it became a basically easy AF. New chars esp Owl is too op, basically no more random, because you can rerol unwanted scrolls. Bilions of damage, no matter how enemies scale and etc. Where is the chalange?
I hope they release that 9th level and something will change. Because for now its basically sad
THe worst thing is that for each fo the char there is one best build for uber dmg. So other builds are not worth trying
Idk what dev team is doing
fallen escarp
I hope they release that 9th level and something will change. Because for now it...
Unfortunately because of how the devs update the game, either R9 won't change anything and you'll still one-shot every enemy with OP builds, or it will genuinely change enough that you have to start using your brain again, at which point people will cry out in outrage and the definitely-final-super-hard-difficulty-not-for-casual-players will get nerfed for casual players.
Happened to R8, happened to Spiritual Assault. Will happen to R9.
kind void
r9 wont help we need r16 where everything oneshots and has 40 million hp
fallen escarp
Even that won't help. You can hit the 10 million damage cap with several hits per attack at this point.
Or just trigger Combustion and end up doing 45 million.
amber sorrel
wow
nimble flint
Yes
flat timber
Idk leme find it in history it was crazyy
I wanted to be that too
But
His lvl was 3 times more
short night
For me thats easy.... Basically every run with my friend
flat timber
That's nice
short night
So the game itself is good, but no chalange at all
And we dont have the choice to make it at least a bit of a chalange
😄
For example uber uber elites
or uber boss
flat timber
Wow
flat timber
👀👍
@short night https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6Xq-7y5qGg&t=336s found it crazyyyyy
nimble flint
I wouldnt take Jons Wr or former WR runs as a measurement for you XD
The speedruns are on a different level than casual play
literally built different
flat timber
using energy supplements as drugs
small ledge
I'm willing to spite you
small ledge
Nah I predict it'll cap at RX
Which is pretty much just go for P from rhythm heaven
Oh dude
A randomizer would be badass
visual osprey
Yaes
small ledge
You walk into the first room and it's like 12 polar monarchs
visual osprey
You tryna build a house or somethin?
visual osprey
Funny to assume they won’t just light ya ass up through the wall 😭
flat timber
flat timber
just wait a week gonna melt everything