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Yeah, that's def why I thought it was horrible
Next time I get it I'll give it a shot
I would assume the Star Ring would also work really well with the Skilled Trick blessing
Red number bumper cars
hold left click, click right click, repeat - simple and you know your timings. It's like a car, you can use auto for decent performance, or manual to get everything from your engine
Ehhhh... how does one get more DPS out of manual?
felt so bad my first try in spiritual assault with Qing Yan 
I started to get the ascensions in order to go for an all or nothing leap build, and then I remembered that blessings are different from the spiritual assault mode
luckily he's so tanky that, even if it was a slog, it was an easy (but slow) win
Is nona fun to use even without the hero specific upgrades?
Fox is the only one I have decently upgraded
Depends on your definition of "fun".
If you like having someone who beats up enemies for you so you don't have to do as much, then yes she's fun.
Anyone know if iron wing can lucky shot? just his basic attacks and what abt the slam/self destruct
he has 25% chance through talent
any hit he does
yoo i just beat reincarnation 8, lone wolf 4, no weapons or occult scrolls, using nona/iron wing
it took 45 minutes xd
Did you do anything, or just let Iron Wing do everything?
iron wing makes it too easy lol
pretty much let iron wing do everything
i mean i used my missiles but
they didnt do as much dmg as iron wing was
Still very impressive of Iron Wing.
I feel like the boat boss is more annoying than the actual final boss
That's because the boat gets to attack you regardless of how much damage you're doing.
Against a powerful player, Pole Monarch will be lucky to get a few shots off at you as he drains a jar.
Since last patch
well thats neat
All rifles can since last patch
and its as stupid as you think
During testing I had a Hippo with Lightning and Corrosive Balls
It generated so many they stopped rendering
sounds about right
They could at least reduce the chance rate.
for high rof yes
how much "extra high dmg" is it?
cos im wiping rooms without effort
does this stack? for example if you use 2 swords do you get 150% movementspeed?
Unless it was changed some time ago, they don't.
Otherwise you'd end up with launchers with -100% or -150% reload time.
I'm surprised you managed to ask this question without reading a little to the right.
Why would they need to lower the proc rate of orbs when Aura of Venom is a 22 RoF and woodpecker is what, a 12 RoF? Wasn't a problem before this patch. Rifles were an underused category and still are with orbs existence.
Orbs don't scale super well for DPS. It's either to apply element or for Tiger to activate Bolts.
Fire orb's radius is pitiful, corrosion orb is a glitchy joke that can't keep up with your killing speed, so that basically just leaves lightning orb, which is admittedly pretty good.
Comparing 4x Crit or +100% rate of fire, I'd say lightning orb isn't even necessarily better. It depends.
Because by default you've only got an 8 and 12 magazine, respectively. Gotta reload without special extras.
Rifles have 30 minimum.
Yeah but if you're using aura you are using magazine share, rapid reload, or some other form of unlimited mag anyways. Same with Woodpecker.
The one with the least crappy accuracy is probably Big Hippo which has that whole -10% move speed issue too...
I think it was the right call for rifles to be included. Might need to tone down lightning orb for shock chance to nerf Lei Luo's bolt build though.
Could cap the lightning orbs to cause a max of 1 shock per second regardless of how many spawn to cripple the combo quite well
Ah yes, the "nerf it into obscurity" approach. Glimmering remembers fondly of this choice.
Had a run two nights ago where I found a hippo with lightning balls while playing T&G tiger. That ascension that spawns a bolt when you proc shock? Yeah, I went deaf the first time I used fatal current.
hello, I want to play in Daily Challenge mode, but it is saying that it is connecting to the server and never connects, is anyone experiencing this?
?
i rather have a dmg exclusive then a orb one, they do no dmg compared to another exclusive
opportunity cost
does wheel saw reload counts as alternate fire?
yeah, i wasn't able to do daily either a few hours ago. perhaps they're having maintenance or something
only if you click to use it, seems to not count from emptying the mag
Works just fine, whatever it is , is on your end if it doesnt work.
lol
Enhanced Untold Effort + Nona's Heavy Modification Ascension
2 times a 50% roll to not consume a charge
75% free secondary skills let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Also have Endless Assault and Skill Freak
gg
yeah but other than that and and Overcon I have no dmg ups for skill
To make it harder I run Advanced Depot Prism
Anyone else think Fire mode is buggy on multi waves? It just sits there doing nothing for like 5 seconds without repositioning.
I also wonder if the "you can't change modes in an obstacle vault" is intended
hello hello
heyo
I wanted to join cause I'd be looking for groups eventually xD I lost my previous group to play :<
you can find people in #1064937664870101033
"looking-for-group"
As a marketer, I support your actions in improving usability 🙂
all altanna's idea
half the time I see lfg I think of let's fing go not looking for group
And as a gamer and mmo enthusiast I oppose that for traditional reasons
it is clearer to casual people
But lfg is also an engrained term in multiplayer gaming, especially MMOs
A decades old term used in gaming
insert crying at these beautiful and 100% true words
I'm always surprised when people don't know what lfg means especially coming from people who actively look for groups when playing games
like if you just play single player
fine
but if you are literrally lfg then you should understand what lfg means 😛
Looking for gold
🪨

There are actually 3-5 games out of all multiplayer games where you can use "lfg" - runescape and wow(if its alive) and ... and thats all. The rest is chinese(native).
Who use lfg when playing CS/Dota/LoL?
what
WoW is very much still alive, unfortunately.
Also, people use "lfg" in Final Fantasy XIV as well.
Also destiny. Diablo, battle royales, basically every table top rpg uses the term. Most big MMOs use it
Even servers for shit like deep rock galactic do it
Any game where you want to talk to your team mates will have an LFG community
I've seen LFG for rocket league and risk of rain as well
just a common term at this point
didn't know that matchmaking was removed from this games and people uses discord to play
even games with matchmaking have lfg communities?
yea, like 1% of players
That's highly inaccurate
damn, I must be a part of the 1/1,000,000+ then
If you really think it's that low, then you clearly haven't been paying attention whatsoever.
so i start ranked in lol, go to discord and say - looking for high elo randoms?
mmmm no
Well Mobas and actual competitive games usually have seperate apps and softwares for it
find group in csgo chat
and lol
i wouldn't say lol dota and cs have big lfg communities
I don't play those, I've got higher standards for myself than that.
but the others i listed all do
Also this
Comeptitive games typically use different applications
but games with raids or coop missions (diablo/destiny etc.) do
ok, maybe borderlands?
hey can i ask something
I'm still waiting for some similar game
was this fast enough for a red panda
seems pretty normal ngl
whether or not you do it personally isn't a debating topic though
but it certainly happens quite frequently
and for a vast selection of games and game types.
You're really going to ignore Destiny?
I don't play those, I've got higher standards for myself than that.
But you play league...
guys u are going off topic
oh pls mate, right in my heart 😦
No league player should feel they have high standards.
and no, I'm clear for 5 years
true
^
and lol after season 4
But yeah, if we're gonna continue this conversation, this really isn't the channel for it anymore.
ok, gn, time to cry about time that was wasted on LoL
Does the skill tree grind become.shorter on multiplayer
I don't find the skill tree too bad to grind through
The spiritual assault mode is pretty fun and seems to be decent at getting essence to upgrade with. Def going to run that mode with characters I don't normally play to see if anything else catches my eye for regular play
i kinda just played with friends and got it maxed
I wouldn't be surprised if more enemies spawned in multiplayer though
never really payed attention to it
I've never played MP so we have the opposite experience lol
also Reincarnation 1 is fun to grind
I think it's the most enjoyable difficulty for casual/laid-back gameplay
Depends who you're playing with.
If you're playing with people who keep dying, purposely ignore stuff like elite vaults or just waste a lot of time picking stuff, probably not.
If you're playing with competent enough people to let you progress further than you would on solo (quickly gets easier once you get some key talents) or people who can carry you through the highest difficulties, then it'll likely go faster.
I think Im at nightmare difficulty now, took me a while to figure out how to progress and not get destroyed
if you want to run some mp sometime just ping me or message me.
pls react to this message if you would no longer say the game was fun/worth playing (or at least see the game as substantially worse than it is currently) if the devs nerfed players' power levels all around by default (like by reducing the number of chests available to you per act or adding a baseline scroll limit) and instead added per-run microtransactions that would allow players to get back to the current power levels. i want to prove a point to myself
Update?
👀
Heck no. A piss easy game might be boring but at least it doesn't mess with balance even more than what microtransactions would.
what.
why would you want that
I think the point is that they don't.
monkey buff??
LOL
lol enhanced energy sandals got nerfed.
did it really need the buff?
lol no
is this a buff
Reincarnation 9: Added removed r8 event. Cube room is now manditory.
What's the bet R9 adds stuff that gets one-shot anyway.
But jesus christ that Pair of Us buff.
is owl primary better now
only potentially bad part
gone
One downside it had was that letting Iron Wing do everything was you got virtually no damage bonus.
But now you always get the full bonus.
WAIT WTF
Yes.
yes
B r u h
no more downside now you just have the bonus
DMG bonus based on Current HP -> Max HP
great
Is it weird that I pray R9 just outright removes blessings?
where did this go tho
gone
reduced to atoms
" The new map of [Spiritual Assault] in the previous plan would be delayed and effort we made on this part would be redirected to the development and optimization of other stages."
Want Them All sounds... interesting at least. If I understand it correctly, you could do stuff like cause snipers to deal AoE damage with Soul Strike... which is probably the only good combo let's be honest.
Though then again, I wonder how well Shotgun + Rifle/SMG/Injector would work...?
If it's how I think it would work, grab a Porcupine then just get +500 base damage on every pellet.
i am a Variable Scroll main
NO MORE "is this a pistol" QUESTIONS!!!
isnt it just for soul strike's stuff when you're holding a certain weapon type
They will still ask
i hate that you're right
bad
he won’t be known as “owl” no more
he is “enhanced man” now
[Variable Scrolls] (Exclusive to Zi Xiao)
Every occult scroll can be reset one more time. Obtain 1 extra time to reset scrolls when acquiring 1 ascension. There is a 50% chance to upgrade scrolls to enhanced scrolls when resetting.
huH
that's fucking crazy
enchanced D6 moment
Lone wolf occult booster
yeah they buffed me recently
Occult Booster was already pretty solid on him. Variable Scrolls just blows that out of the water.
watch Altanna create a whole ass jeff character description complete with ascensions, blessings, and talents
I guess the devs really value that extra 60 soul essence cost.
my wallet sitting with the 25k cap of essence:
i couldn't find the gif I wanted to complete that joke, so have one that's close enough instead
That's what you think. People will still ask.

Say, did you happen to notice this bit?
What would this one mean? Buff or nerf do ya think?
This was a bug?
Okay new update pog!
Uh....
The new monkey spiratual update
or uh
Thing
Doesnt work properly
well its dead to him now
i did not 
Out with the old, in with the OP, right?
I'm confused why I dont have unstoppable momentum
is it not in the game anymore? im confused
ah i got it, was watching an old build video and spent like 5k jade trying to find the remnant
Nobody makes content on this game it really sucks
Can still use the wiki, which is... mostly updated.
ok ig im stupid but what does bonus effect mean for want them all? my iq is negative
Do you play monkey?
i play monkey a lot im embrassed i cant think of what it means
You know how cudgel have different effects when holding different weapon types?
Now imagine carrying 2 different weapons and having both effects active at the same time for cudgel.
honestly no im bad at that, i skim through stuff once to see how it works and just go with it
I mean, it's right there in the skill description. Even tells you which weapon does what.
i know im in the wrong for not fully reading everything. all things considered not knowing that has never really made a difference
How do you get a good bunny build, she's so bad when I try to use her
Either rapid fire weapon with a Swords Out build, high hit count weapon with a Fatal Bloom build, or Concealed Ammo/high ammo consumption Blade of Bloom build.
But no matter what, she pretty much always starts off weak.
if youre in reincarnation and using lone wolf you can just take endless assult and thorny bloom
that's exactly what I thought, but she takes two hits and dies, plus her swords/bloom does like no damage unless you get perfect ascension RNG (no ping)
Yes. It's literally the changes I asked for, still won't use it either
Well, I also suggested completely revamping the gun so I said a lot of suggestions to be fair
They even changed the beam windup time shit I didn't mention but clearly noticed
I'm down for a 0 charge time TBH, baby steps though...
Theres probably a handful of weapons I'd want buffed that y'all would disagree with me on:
Cloud Weaver
And all charge-based weapons getting at least half bonus to charge time from rate of fire
So bows, launchers, rainbow arch, stuff like that
I'd prefer it if charge weapons got inscriptions based on charge time.
Shrieker used to have an exclusive for that. Goshawk has an exclusive for that. Nothing else does though.
goshawks is only active while scoped 
I also hate Golden Bows inscriptions so I would love for them to be replaced
Since it is my absolute favorite weapon
"+50% lucky shot per charging second" is worse than some greens, "+50% ROF" only applies to uncharged shots and "AoE on crit" is atrocious damage
I am just happy about this :
less soul essence waste
too many times rolled same 2 over and over again
Does that mean it removes the last options from the pool completely or just removes them from the next roll?
The Spiritual Assault version isn't called a blessing right?
Spiritual Assault is probably the one I'm most concerned about since I've never spent 20k rerolling R8
I'm still recovering from those spiritual assault rerolls I did on the expansion release...
I'm back to about 11k from 0 because I've been playing pretty much Nightmare only or Spiritual Assault without rerolls...
Spiritual Assault ones are called Spiritual Ascensions.
Also the above text clearly states "from Spiritual Remnant" which is the mushroom guy.
im reading through the update. i thought they would nerf nona but no
you must be new here
im surprised that im surprised too
should be Spiritual Blessings
Does Iron Wing do skill damage?
Or is it his own brand of damage and scrolls don't affect him?
yes, iron wing deals skill damage.
strike mode base damage scales with iron wing's attack power.
fire mode base damage scales with nona's missile base damage.
Thank you
how do I deal over 1 billion dmg on lei luo? I have a lot of r8 runs on him, but I can't ever do high dmg.
Yooo! Is Octopus good now!?
Always has been
Im sad the monkey's new spiritual blessing doesnt work properly
I though a new spiritual assault map is coming. Was that cancelled?
Oh I see, thanks
What are the best upgrades to ho for on the skill tree
Hello, how do you do damage in spiritual assault mode, because after several stages the enemies basically become damage sponges and I feel like I don't have any damage. what am I doing wrong?
take glass cannon blessing and pray you don't die
Can someone clarify for me, trying to incorperate the 1 mag gemini
if the hell's base dmg is 63 x14 bullets
would the gemini consider it 63 base damage or 882?
Oh, so basically every Reincarnation difficulty with Tao
Tao has some of the best defence assensions in the game?
She has one
It counts all the pellets in the total
Sword guard and sword defense
Also cursed mark is a flat 30/45/60% damage reduction on enemies
so whats the strat with nona? go talent craft and pray for damage?
star ring on nona is easy mode. I was playing with my monitor off bc I lost power using it + iron wing.
Thanks dude, that worked great
I mean, after years: Weapon type is added to the Weapon Preview Panel.
You exited, not alt-f4'd
Beyond that, you exited in a stage, and not in the beginning with the Blessing vendor
Also
You didnt save and progressed past the save/exit point
It is meant to be a no save scum
Exit at the well , not elsewhere
or campfire if you will
Doing an Iron Wing Support run
- Ovecomp and Skilled Caster
And he is Brick Powered ( Skilled Caster)
How does Proton fix Gunfire and then Gunfire breaks next update immediately
Because there is no official Linux support ?
Lmao
It may be (somewhat) Steamdeck compatible but never was developed with that compatability in mind
Valve needs to change it from Verified to Playable
probably my biggest complaint with the Steam Deck release is that the verified tag is not community controlled
Now got Field Prof
Less than 2 seconds CD on the deploy
Also he can Lucky Hit it seems
Almost perfect
Fuck you too game
Phew
BT.. err Iron Wing did it
Almost a million Iron Wing dmg
Little to non possibilities.
Gunfire uses Peer to Peer connection for MP on Steam
Meaning the Ping is a result of the connection between you two
Either one of you has shitty internet or your router/firewall settings are preventing/inhibiting network communication
Steam version doesnt have servers you play on
ok thx
Yes, that is the correct answer. I haven't been abusing it for a long time
thx
I'm new to GR and Spiritual Assault in general, but I thought I did okay here - only to fall massively flat against these owls. Since I can't see their load out, anyone have any idea how they got so much damage?
Cards, probably.
I wish I lived in an arctic hellhole right now, the weather is abysmal
I just got
and he seems like he has low survivalbility
Is there any trick to surviving with him
Use Leap correctly. He's actually got one of the highest survivability stats.
You just need to know how to use it.
Did you actually save at the well?
or just try to quit as soon as you got to the area
they bought the dlc 
saved myself at campfire and alt+f4 at 2.1, work's like it should. But yea, you can just save and exit through menu at 2.0 and other pre-stage area's. It's a good way to test some blessings
Yeah i know you can it's just before you were saying you can't go back to the menu now.
Was wondering if it was an actual bug atm or not
that was my fail, in that case I was trying to exit through the menu at 2.1
I still haven't fully understood how the new Monkey's Blessing works. The pistol seems to apply projectiles from a shotgun (I'm talking about the First Strike bonus), but I didn't notice any Q dmg on shotgun. The shotgun also doesn't seem capable of critical hits with the sniper rifle, and the sniper rifle doesn't have any projectiles.
Either this thing doesn't work properly, or I need to check everything with a fresh mind.
soft pretzels or normal crunchy pretzels
soft on a rare occasion but typically Snyders for me
can anyone tell me what caused little mini meteors to hit enemies as I shot them with Li? Cant figure it out >.<
Flare Calling ascension.
Hitting enemies with a weapon calls down a meteor, 1.5s cooldown.
tyvm
I find it funny that I'm less likely to end up with a player out scaling the mobs immediately after starting a run in Nightmare than in R8
Higher chance that a 4 player Nightmare run gets to shoot the mobs without someone instakilling everything
But Nightmare is super boring and easy despite that
Hence why some people call Nightmare the hardest difficulty in the game.
Can't wait for R9 to be super duper hard this time
just like how R8 was so much different from R7
Watch it get nerfed within a month after release.
Or watch a large swathe of blessings get buffed again.
Maybe we'll get something like Raging Inferno going from +450% base damage to +900% and recovering 5 energy per enemy killed, or maybe Eye of Providence will get to offer a 20% chance of 2 extra chests instead of 1.
R9?
It now shows on the roadmap.
Where?
I messed up my nightmare run earlier being complacent because Nona get's so broken lmao
They're planning Reincarnation 9. Top right.
Where did you find this?
In the game? When you start it?
stupid game crashed loading between maps
Inb4 R9 adds spiritual ascensions.
And the spiritual seals.
And random daily challenge effects (Crystal Seeker becomes mysteriously common).
Is Pair of Us for Nona 1% damage for Nona + Iron Wing?
only iron wing
is there ever a reason to not pick elemental reload in horde mode
being able to 100% apply every status in the game seems like its too universally applicable
In case you want to feel challenged.
Otherwise, no.
Or if you plan on a build where you don't reload at all.
its really insane that its only a three slot skill
like what were the devs thinking
So after returning to Gunfire due to a friend, wow. Just. Wow. The gane has gotten far, 2 DLCs and more content on the way. Also the Red panda has stolen my heart ❤️
I can only assume they were thinking "Let's buff random things and see what happens." That's basically what it looks like for pretty much every update now.
when will
make the chests free tho?!
kinda sick
ready for the aura of venom buff
even though the gun is already kinda nuts
glimmering buff is actually needed tho
Eye of Providence Buff
Old: Vaults and Peculiar Chests are visible on the minimap, and you will be able to acquire one extra Peculiar Chest every act.
New: Vaults and Peculiar Chests are visible on the minimap. +3 Peculiar Chests and +1 Vault per act. Vaults are instantly completed when entered and drop a free random enhanced scroll. Peculiar Chest choices are free, and all choices can be selected.
Be careful what you wish for...
I just did a missile build in spiritual assault and didn't get the rapid fire ascension on Nona
that was painful 💀
I hope Emergency Heal is removed from the game
I don't want to spend 15 minutes clearing an elite vault in Act 1 because of some stupid fucking event
also the "no repeats on refresh for spiritual blessing" clearly isn't working properly since I got repeats immediately on next refresh
Skilled Trick slot 1 into Skilled Trick slot 3
Endless Assault slot 2 into Endless Assault slot 2
tfw Defensive Robust Elite Horsehead
Not me spending ages killing a Robust elite in tombs only to get the "opportunity" to choose Ammo Belt, Thorny Carapace, and Bluff lmao
and the Corrosive suffix seems to be bugged since breaking the ball doesn't seem to reliably be getting rid of the aura
and I'd reallllllly rather there not be a copycat event with all corrosive enemies
especially when you can't reliably clear the corrosive aura
bluff 
It was really icing on the cake that Corrosive rooms and rooted on armor/shield break rooms countered bird significantly harder than other heroes. At least he gets a hallpass with new Last Stand 1 now but ouch.
tfw you spend most of the run fighting an elite horsehead.
leave and get miasma
hello gamer i just met
hello
Backfire doesn't work
like, straight up does no dmg in any situation
y'all
when is the next SA assault map coming again?
I might be blind but I dont see it on the roadmap thingy
delayed
and then they got perma knockbacked and died
ah, you beat my cat hp
How do you increase hp that much
veteran and fight for immortality
then you just need to get hit by a lot of damage
something like this
In that situation its better to ignore team and do your best, IMO
Def is, I ain't stupid
but i didn't want to let the team die
I understand, many games were lost because instead of killing bosses, I went to resurrect teammates. I know that feeling when you want victory and for your team to stand strong, but then the realization comes that you could have carried this situation and buyback your team later.
final boss
I understand, many games were lost because instead of killing bosses, I went to resurrect teammates. I know that feeling when you want victory and for your team to stand strong, but then the realization comes that you could have carried this situation and the team will win anyway.
It was for the secret ending
what 2 weapons are best to dual wield for monke ywith the new blessing
Shrieker + Strike Wing or Brick with permanent CritX
Pistol is apparently bugged from what I heard secondhand
then with Critical Cudgel you can get it closer to 100% crit rate
Then you can use Wait For Good, Enhanced Casual Gumanship, Fire Enthusiast / Bloody Ammo / Capacity Overdraft + Deadly Counter
Level 3 Critical Cudgel and a +25 weapon is enough to reach a 100% Crit rate
If you want to focus pure damage and ignore the launchers godly explosive damage modifier and AOE, then you could go Argus + Crit I guess for more single target
Or you could sacrifice some Soul Strike DPS and use a Wild Hunt because monkey synergizes well with Converged Flows Wild Hunt / Hell
I understand, many games were lost because instead of killing bosses, I went to resurrect teammates. I know that feeling when you want victory and for your team to stand strong, but then the realization comes that you could have carried this situation and the team will win anyway.
Are you sure? 🙂
What, is it that the crit is two separate modifiers so it's 0.6*0.4=24%?
Or did you read the whole post where I said to use a sniper for the 40%
that part
"A sniper's own 40% chance to critical hit does not stack with Critical Cudgel"
i dont think that 25 lvl sniper is enough for 100%
Where's that?
Okay so it's not 100%, it's 76% fair enough
yeap
something like that
btw, are you tested new blessing? I don't think that it 100% works
fuck no, it's trash on paper
what part doesn't work?
The pistol part doesn't seem to
this
Once you have Overconsumption and Field Proficiency THEN it might be worth taking
I'm only interested in crit share with sniper rifle 😁
Yeah Shrieker / Strike Wing is my standard Soul Strike build
Cudgel
It is cudgel damnit
yes, that's my monkeys xD
they killed First Strike Fire Tower 😦
indeed
Smoking pole monarch pack for the first time
W
what build was this one
oh, weapon mastery build
I was using wild hunt
since I couldn't find a good argus
I need to play something besides nona but it's just so OP
wild hunt ftw
whats the most damage youve ever done, 6 bil is crazy
7.6 Bil
That run woulda beat that but I failed
7.6 bil 🤯
does iron wing still revive you in mp?
14bil SA bunny
15 bil sa dog
solo spiritual assault
solo
in SA on Li solo
how yall get this damn high
Overkill damage
if im using want them all with monkey and have a sniper and launcher what should i hole my sniper or launcher
Whichever is your primary for damage.
Abusing the everloving shit outa elemental/combustion
Sniper usually
i would think launcher bc higher base damage
oh hold
I thought u meant hole as in leave untouched
yeh
cudgel scales best with the launchers base damage
As goshawk is the only sniper with semi comparable base damage
but shrieker can get insane base damage, and usually works best imo
but tiger cannon and bone dragon are just as viable
You can only get above 3 bil with overkill or farming Respawnables
That was spiritual assault tho which is way easier to get with overkill damage as there's a lot more enemies
Who is the weakest character
@hybrid gull depends who you ask I guess? I do not think there is something like a weakest character. It all comes to playstyle.
What about, which one is least consistant
🤔
I personally have the least playtime with the parrot. So I'd say he is? Than again that is just me. I should try him more
Parrot?
The birb?
I think hes a hawk
Also, I played him recently and got 2.3Billion extreamly easily
So....
Mn
it might be turtle
I assume Nona is a red Panda?
believe so
The turtle would be understandable
Bc he doesnt die ever
But he doesnt really kill anything
Its a turtle
turtle
he does
He has a shell
You cant see it very well on the character select screen
But even after selecting him its clear as day
Very spikey turtle
Also
I know this would maybe be kinda useless. Since the game is in 1st person. But alt skins for the characters would be kinda cool
Or a form to customize them. But thats just me
🤔 Deep rock has customizationnand is a FPS so.. maybe?
would allow us to spend our currency on more things
True that!
i just spend all my essence rolling on r8 runs 
also tbh there should be an achievement for completing r8 lone wolf 4 player mode tbh smh
Guys, where I can see tips or build to play with the monkey? I cant beat rencarnation with him
Why
lone wolf makes r8 100x easier
rly ??
It allows for absolutely insane godbuilds with no effort
A free blessing at no cost is incredibly strong
Most of the bizarre dream modifiers make the game easier if you know what you're doing, or even half know what you're doing.
Some of them only make it harder if you choose poorly or deliberately sabotage yourself.
Lone wolf is by far the strongest since HP doesn't scale, right?
One could argue Spiritual Link is the strongest, because it's a pure player buff.
But Lone Wolf is definitely one of the easier ones.
Idk, I always play with all modifiers since it makes the game easier and harder
Only difficult thing is the first half tbh
sometimes the setup is killer
but idk, I don't have too many hours so everything I say could be wrong
First half of each run is the hardest part.
Conveniently, that's also where Lone Wolf helps the most.
indeed
Only time I find later half harder is overconsumption builds, as those usually always are early game heavy
and it is incredibly weak compared to many options for late game imo
Second half's difficulty only really comes from getting absolutely curbstomped by a select few enemies that got lucky.
Like Bleed Powerful Mutant Penguins.
I do love me inherited robust enemies with flesh and bones in ignoring pain areas
https://i.imgur.com/R2Rud2a.png that is pretty strong
75% per scroll slot to be enhanced? lord almighty
Perfectly balanced though, because you don't get +100% total damage per enhanced scroll.
(They'll fix that in a later update.)
uhhh... what are the odds of rerolling my first scroll being dormant bullet to being enhanced dormant bullet?
50%.
less than 1/100?
Apparently if the reroll enhanced the scroll, it's the same scroll.
Hardly.
it means you can't turn trash scrolls into good scrolls 50% of the time
Even if the first reroll enhanced something you don't want, your second reroll doesn't have that problem.
So you've got an average of 1.5 scroll rerolls per scroll.
No, 1.25 average.
does the enhanced rerolled scroll stay enhanced?
You either get 50% fail, 50% fail, or 50% success, 100% fail.
If it's like how it was before, yes.
well shit, now I have to wonder if risking rerolling break the ice is worth it
Well it's a 50% chance for 3 legendaries, 2 others, -1 ascension, or a 50% chance for 1 legendary, but keep the ascension.
Magician and Artisan update buffed one of its exclusives, and also a variety of common inscriptions, but I don't believe SC itself was buffed.
I have 161 base damage x4 crit, that's 644, small chance to lucky shot for 1288, +50% for fire element for 1932, but I'm hitting for over 3k with no modifiers
is that the explosion doing an additional hit?
Weapon DMG bonuses.
talent weapon damage bonus is 25% correct? so that's 2500
If the initial hit is classified as an explosion, it also receives the +50% skill damage.
Which would be 3381.
Dunno if it is, but that's just what would happen if it was.
turtle haters are so lame
his kick has i frames
ikr, they make such great hockey pucks
okay owl with the star ring is kinda absurd
for some reason i thought you'd need to think when using him but q really just goes brrr
https://i.imgur.com/qfQQrgF.jpeg wasn't a bad build
missed out on getting last shot to activate stacked deck so was missing that last ingredient
but yeah getting 2 rerolls and 50% enhanced chance was very strong
only with these scrolls can I run a gemini aura of venom argus build lol
I am brand new and wondering what is some advice I should follow starting out
if you're not playing crown prince, bring a corrosion element weapon to cause decay to deal with mini-bosses in the vaults
you don't need to keep it after stage 1 though
ok
focus on killing ranged first and keep mobile, use cover, etc
except when there's melee that's getting close to you with like, corrosion or agile
leave things like grenadiers for last unless they have some annoying special ability
also should I try playing in groups or just play solo at first
I encourage you to learn the game solo because you will get hard carried in multiplayer and most times players will run builds so strong you won't be able to keep up
ok
if you need to farm for essence to level up, I'd stick to Nightmare mode over Reincarnation, or Elite if you're not comfortable with Nightmare
havent even beat normal so
you'll figure it out, 2nd level can be rough to get used to, 3rd level seems hard but is faster to learn
ok yeah im currently learning 3rd I can beat 1st and second pretty easily now
when you get a triple option for scrolls, don't look down on corrosion shard or snow boots because getting slowed can get you killed
Last star just does not work
didn’t see my tiger cannon proc corrosion consistently with only rares
and never got crits with FT
tbh spiritual assault is probably best for early level farming isnt it
you get showered with essence playing it
Spiritual Assault requires level 60 and isnt particularly new player friendly, and it's not a great essence farm speed
Spiritual Assault, even without rerolls, is like... 200-250 essence for over 30 minutes? Nightmare is 800-850 and you could Speedrun it in around 30 or still make bigger profit for taking a whole hour
sa is like 800 essence/game if u know what you're doing
default runs are more fun that Spiritual Assault since I can actually use snipers effectively 
always got too overwhelmed by sheer enemy count when trying to use them elsewhere
I'd like to see a screenshot of that
hi guys anyone playing lone wolf on owl char? cause i meet a bug and didn't take any screenshots.
what's the bug?
Cant think of anything particular since lone wolf only increases enemy spawns and lets you choose a general blessing
so if you are playing on owl with interdependent fortunes, when you reroll scroll and save after, then re-enter you get that scrolls again
and yep it could be in case of variable scrolls
lone wolf just in case solo-playing sorry
Yeah that has nothing to do with Lone wolf
And the rerolls are seed based
you would still get the same rolls because its the same base random seed
it's understandable, just wanted you guys to know maybe that need fix
Also : What you pick for interdependent fortunes as the scroll is only what appears on the left for the enemy buffs
What happens with the scroll after you chose the fortune are two different things
for zi xiao level frame achievement, do i need only one rarity without enhanced or i can use enhanced too?
Enhanced are just different power but same rarity
okay ty.
what is the easiest way to unlock the frame
i wasted too much time already with this 😦
Just play normal and only take legendary scrolls ?
Right sorry, I only play r1 at base
so yeah
R1 had become the "normal"
Just take lone wolf for 2 player with Overcompsensation
Its an absurd stat boost given you will only pick legendary scrolls
and it gives the stats you might miss out on
overconsumption with what?
Just pick any blessing you want besides that
explosive hand / star compass etc
dont really need anything
Just take over and copy cat and you are set , even without scrolls
So uhhh
I just ran into a weird bug
#1125045617010421790 message
I rerolled Evil Devouring Sword into Enhanced Evil Devouring Sword despite having Enhanced in my inventory , as I just bought that from a phantom peddler and what cause me to drop the normal one to begin with
Game : Gives me EDS from Fortunes
Me : neat , given I have talisman and a few curses already
Game at Phantom Peddler a few seconds later : You want to upgrade that EDS ?
Me : hell yeah !
Me : drops EDS for Enhanced EDS and wants to reroll it
Game : YO ! I heard you like EDS so here is another Enhanced EDS
finished the damn achievement.
so right now im trying to 100% the game and i am struggling to get the 5 daily challenges one, does it mean five different types of challenges or 5 different days
Different types I believe
ok, thanks
How does it work, me and a friend play together we constantly have problems with ping, when we create a server someone becomes the host, but it was like that created a server and as if on a dedicated server came, although they say that the connection peer to peer.
also would like to know where the game servers are if there are any?
The connection is Peer to Peer there is no game server.
The only "server" you connect to is to pull the information for the daily challenge
Peer to Peer means someone becomes the host for the game session and manages all communications between the players
If that player has in insufficient system and or slow internet/network connection that results in high ping
We both have a good system, internet connection too 300mbps
We even have the same provider
I'm hosting, how can I have a ping?
@lucid nova Almost
nice
No.
It means your weapon does 100% damage if the enemy has 0 elemental effects, 247.5% damage if the enemy has 1 effect, 371.25% if the enemy has 2 effects, or 556.875% damage if the enemy has all 3 effects.
Do people like the idea of mods comming out for this game?
The devs don't, so out of respect to them modding talk isn't allowed here.
As far as I recall it's just a respect thing. Some devs don't like people tampering with their game.
Okay
Wait-
No I mean like, do you know why the devs dont like people modding their game
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe they just don't want people modding their game.
oh that is wild
prob not worth the investment to get all three statuses inflicted on an enemy tho
for a monkey want them a;; build what are the best blessings
hmmmm
The other Soul Strike blessing and cooldown blessings I'd imagine.
what is the fastest way to get destiny's choice
Don't pick normal scrolls. Pick primary skill cooldown reductions. Spam Falling Star.
ty
If it's anything like Tsunami Punch, the extra DMG acts like a hit from your weapon, including using weapon DMG bonuses.
its just not very clear
we know mech drop is based on skill damage
so the 300% extra total dmg of mech drop should be skill based?
If it's also anything like Tsunami Punch, the +300% total DMG should apply to both the Mecha Drop and the weapon hit.
its tsunami punch
so i should build skill damage yea?
but i did note that Tsunami now bundles all hits into one, while mech drop hits individually
and just upgrade the weapon
do you think sunder would be better
Absolutely not. Damage and projectile count is far lower.
sweet, thanks
coming back to gunfire after a long while and is spiritual assault supposed to be so overwhelming solo? items will drop but i wont have a chance to even read what the item is because there's an entire continent's worth of enemies after me 90% of the time
game stops when you pick stuff
im referring to stuff like scrolls or the weird green statues but i could just go to my inventory to see what it is now that i think about it 💀
im assuming spiritual assault doesn't count towards unlocks?
In solo the game pauses when you "compare" rewards, look at peddlers, craftsmen and peculiar chests, or when you open your inventory.
However it does not pause when looking at dropped weapons, dropped scrolls and dropped other rewards.
And since you even have a timer every 5 minutes before the enemy onslaught starts again instead of a "press F to pay respects continue", this is very much deliberate.
That being said, it used to have even less breaks.
Yep, except stuff exclusive to Spiritual Assault.
when i tried out spiritual assault months ago i kept dying due to skill issue before the first wave would end i just thought they were endless because they were so long lol
Not endless, but 5 minutes can feel that way.
try Nona and running circles, that got me to the boss fight solo, but the boss melted me lol
Nona is GOD
except if i hold c for long enough it times out and just picks whatever im hovering
-lfg
To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
#1064937664870101033
Wrong channel
i think they deleted the message
No I deleted them
As stated in the announcement
LFG stuff outside of the looking for group channels will be deleted without if or but
Especially if the response to a mod getting the lfg command with the bot saying where to go is to just ask again
ah forgot about that
No other points of view, no empathy, only pristine totalitarianism. Like in the good old times. I am starting to like this community more and more!
If you think that I am terribly sorry for your view of the world
We had asked people over and over to not post in the general channel for looking for group requests
Its listed in the welcome channel , it has a clear identifiable channel name, and its the second channel listed in the groups you can actually post in so visibilty is not the issue
There is no reason to post it anywhere else.
After some years a line has to be drawn
I kinda like that there's no empathy in that regard. It's not like anyone is being punished for it after all, so there isn't a reason for either party to really feel bad either.
No malice from anyone involved, just a misunderstanding/oversight
Its nothing to do with no empathy or such.
Simply that such messages will just be deleted and you get the mention for the lfg channels.
More to keep the channels clean of broken bits of lfg and someone replying not to do here
is there any specific way of grinding lobster fire dmg kills or is it just going to take a long time no matter what?
Maybe try the fox, iirc you can get an upgrade that guarantees fire damage?
that's probably a good idea
i've seen that you can quit duo fjord to go back to the first save to farm them that way but im not sure if that still works
hey
wanted to ask iof there is a way to rejoin a game after I crash if my friend is hosting
no
it's really not bad. It used to be 100 lobster kills.
whats like a good way to lvl up my talents quickly? i started yesterday
keep playing
is there etiquette for matchmaking i should know about
my main concern is, like, picking nona and making ppl upset since she is a spot op
go farther and farther each time
pick up your teammates, ping weapons you wont use
people hating on op characters like atomic dog and stuff does not happen much anymore
cool beans. thx 👍
is nona or bunny girl best?
should i like save up for bunny girl or just upgrade talents?
none are really the best but nona is EXTREMELY busted
yeah, id get her but not this early in the game, itd feel like p2w
Upgrade talents. Tao is a hero who starts each run weaker than most, so you might struggle at first with her.
Additionally, if you spent the essence on talents not only do you upgrade every hero, but you also make progress towards unlocking heroes anyway. Dog for example takes a minimum of 405 soul essence.
Hwo much stuff is locked behind sa
Not much stuff is locked behind it. A few achievements, 1 enemy, and some spiritual jades which you'd use for SA anyway.
is fish or bear paw good on monkey e build
Most likely.
well does it affect the e or no
Yes.
is the price got higher?
i remember it was under 5usd converted to my currencies.
but now its almost 10 ?
huh ?
Depends on the country, but at some point yes.
i wait for this summer sale, but the price instead got lower, it got higher than last time 😦
Certain countries got it worse, to prevent people abusing cheaper regional prices to make money reselling games.
aight guys, im gonna leave this server again, i think i cant buy it....
too expensive for me rn. cya guys

does anyone feel like thats bit of a 'aw i cant abuse the pricing now, i leave then'
or could just be they are from Malaysia and can't afford the price in their domestic currency
Sorry for interupting, but do you guys have any new play styles I could try out?
I am bored and wana try something new
But easy ya know?
Stunlock Cat.
Start with Splinter Orb, take whatever increases to energy orb freeze duration, energy orb hit count, energy orb capacity and cooldown reductions.
Okay
hm
Nona Iron Wing drop pod
Dont shoot and only use secondary to heal your buddy
Main dmg should be his drop down dmg and be used when its off cd
Gets stupid funny if you get scrolls that reduce your cd
on R8 it was quite the challenge at Act 3 and 4 boss
What is the best one shot shotgun in the game? so, which one has the highest damage output with a single shot?
Argus. Hell with its exclusive inscription.
What is hell's exclusive inscription?
"Reload two ammo at a time, +30% projectile. +20% Lucky Shot Chance in 1s after reloading."
i've been wanting to play again after a break - what should i turn off/on from all the special options so that i may find a match within a reasonable time?
serious question: is this game popular somewhere? I mean it must be since it is getting updates - but whenever i try to matchmake it takes 10+ minutes, i spent like 30 minutes in matchmaking before and didn't find it - and it is the same everytime i try to play
try to cancel search and start again after a few mins(or seconds like I do)
afaik the game is fairly popular
but generally due to the same issues you're having, people tend to use channels like #1064937664870101033 and/or play in private lobbies
It's also primarily a Chinese game, so a lot of the playerbase is going to be from China.
Which is bad for matchmaking in regions, obviously.
ye
did that
how do i turn off the random sound effects and music that just comes when i dont do anything
Pause the game
#1055550986292297838 message
Coz we dont have Chinese players in marchmaking?
No, because the game doesn't like matching you with people outside a certain area
It might be so, but how is it related to China, where the game has its own PC client and there is no crossplay with Steam?
All that was stated was that is where it was most popular, nothing of matchmaking there (I'm just an idiot who misunderstood)
admin how do i turn off random sounds and battle noises when im doing nothing
I dont know what sounds you mean
Also someone answered your question possibly already
its like when i dont shoot or anything battle noises just come up and stuff
Are they always the same ? different depending on the zone ?
„Sound and stuff“ is as vage as „It dont feel well“ when going to the doctor
I can only again point to the answer someone already gave you for now
Someone else had random stuff playing as well
here
can anyone explain to me how to scale Li's defense
i feel like she has nothing in her kit that rly helps with it so u just have to pray for scrolls or>?
as in shield?
anything really i just feel like i die to any attack on her all the time
and sometimes in this game its just hard to dodge
i struggle the most in those rooms where u have waves n it spawns a lot of mobs in just one room
its probably better to build HP for fire enthusiast
oh i havent seen that scroll in so long i forgot it existed lmao
it does sound like it could enable survivability quite well on her
it should if you take fiery heart and use E
Really for her the best defense is offense
yeah
no real reason you should be getting hit if you can deal like 40 million damage to everything in a 400 foot radius
tysm, i had the exact same issue as him
To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
#1064937664870101033
Thats why we give you a link like 4 hours ago...
good bot
so, its been a while since ive played. I just came back and i see a bunch of new characters. Fire fox is fun. Started monkey, no idea how to build him. Is it bait to go for weapon damage? or is there something to it
There's something to it.
so like, stack a brick or super heavy weapona nd do the cudgels?
also, is brick any good? or is it a meme
Brick is actually useful
Kill things before they kill you
Tips for getting my skill tree max quickly?
Like what weapons are must grab, I’m playing bunny because I like speed
yep
are there plans for crossplay between steam and xbox
Extremely doubt it.
Case and point: Steam is developed by Duoyi Games, who care about updates.
Xbox is developed by 505 Games, who do not care.
very nice. also i wonder what gemi was used in this? one of the new ones with weapons 1 & 2
?
Why not porkiepine+argus/hell
Flame talisman.
- Main weapon projectiles need to hit to count. Many projectiles results in many misses. Offhand weapon only needs 1 hit per shot to count entirely.
- Spore damage is divided by projectile count. Many projectiles for your main weapon results in less spore damage, especially with Porcupine, which also has the worst damage per projectile.
- Offhand weapon only counts once per shot. Rainbow shoots fast. Porcupine does not.
I've never failed the DPS check on the final boss until now, that was fun lol.
Coop feels a lot easier than single player
Matchmaking taking kind of forever on steam last few days I’ve tried to play,
easiest way for mp is #1064937664870101033
I finally did it again
I had trouble with the destiny's choice achievement mainly because I suck
what the benefit of going to 4x player in reincarnation thing?
Personal satisfaction, if that means anything because you turned Lone Wolf on in the first place.
so after i select my first bessing, theres no reason to go past the 2 player unless i wanna?
Yes.
i wont get more blessing or anything right?
Nope.
alrighty
Technically you do get more enemies which means more copper, and weapons from Elite Gatherings.
But generally you have no reason to.
im just now dipping my toes in the water and only and decent with one animal so far. so ill take it a bit slow for now.still learning mechanics, ect. gonna start looking for weapons to use with nona. brick seems especially usefull with her
Just finished the first normal playthrough, I was wondering how fire damage works for the unlocks? Does the killing blow need to be the dps or just any fire weapon?
Any fire weapon, skill or special effect.
Cannot be a fusion effect, instant kill effect, or a non-fire weapon using element share to benefit from a fire weapon's bonuses.
Li the fox.
Crown Prince the cat also does, but it requires an ascension and a fire weapon, which you could just use anyway.
Thanks 😄


